The future of Qiyas, Ijma and Ijtihad – Advanced Principles of Islamic Jurisprudence

Akram Nadwi

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The speakers emphasize the importance of learning from mistakes and mistakes in life, finding the truth, and avoiding mistakes. They stress the need for guidance and research to avoid confusion and negative consequences, and the use of words like "has" and "has" in English to describe situations and ideas. The speakers also emphasize the importance of understanding the title of the book sourcing from the Bible and the rules of the culture for making good arguments. They combine two approaches to a task, including efficiency and productivity, and work in a team environment to increase productivity and sense of teamwork.

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alameen wa Salatu was Salam O Allah Rasool E. Muhammad Ali, he was hobbema I'm about for the below him in a shed why Raheem, Bismillahi Rahmani Raheem? Allah yo Ma Ma to Lokhande nakum wattman to a holiday coming up and Mati what at least welcome Melissa Medina Nakata yada yada yada Dena Manu, Allah azza wa jal rasulillah od m remain calm for internals artificial info to rely on rhassoul. In quantum to Nabila will Jamil asked her, Daddy

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Vila

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inshallah, in these two days I'm going to teach you basic

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details about Iijima under chaos. And something about each jihad in sha Allah tala and what I'm going to teach it, it is mostly based, you know, aren't the earlier sources you know, of course no doubt you know, examples from matar malegra from Allah tala and also PETA with Arthur Abu hanifa by his students, Mr. Mohammed Yusuf are some of the writers Sophia Muhammad, these things will be there inshallah, in those surah circa one of the most important source that I used with RS Allah, Masha, Allah Allah then after that, in fantasy motherhood, I used I have used all for soul fill your soul by just last Abubakar just last are Razi, one of the earliest Hanafi jurists who basically alongside

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with his teacher Abolhassan in all courtesy, these are people who actually made fun of the mother. So just sasada very, very important you know, in in Holland, the mother and his book actually should it should be sturdy anyway. So, this is one of the swords. Similarly, in in Shafi Madhava, he also used

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the book of in order shall by alibaug in learning to back in that one the earliest jurist who know who wrote on suit to his book, a similarly I have used him at his alma mohalla demo Kadima. And he has a book on Alexa, I used karma in asthma as well, and something for almost a week very little, but, you know, something something, man would have had a man, it just some arguments. And

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also, I

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used something from a showpony era shot aisle for food.

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So, these are the sources, which are used, and then my own thinking and understanding, you know, offer these concepts. While you know, doing research, you know, I realized really,

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there are, you know, few problems I would like to start with, before teaching these concepts. The first thing is, no doubt, really very important that you people have come to learn, you know, these important concepts of sole effect. But it very important people should are really distinct, what is my word trc?

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why I'm saying this, because, you know, the study of these, you know, concept, in war actually suffer from some problems in the, in the western universities, and also in the mother Assad, in Islamic centers of learning. In the Western universities actually, were happening most of our time. And instead of understanding this concert properly, in what jurists have been doing, what exactly they do, most time they spend, about the historical development in all those things, and very little to understand really what these concepts are, to people who study in these industry, the more the Muslims, when they want to help Islamic law, or Islamic paperwork, they do their work they do, they

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already have gotten a good understanding of the Western law, to deny Western law. And, you know, especially in definers, you know, they have good knowledge, too, when they come to Islamic faith, what they do, whenever they find anything, any similarity between what the what is in western law, and between any detail of Islamic law, difficult cited. And, you know, and particularly that you see something similar has been served by some jurists in the past. And then basically what they do what they have learnt, you know, in the West, they want to apply that to slavery because basically to Western idea, but Islamic growth, you know, just basically they got some Islamic you know, terms

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attorney ology, and they use them, they have not fully understood, really what Islamic law is. And second problem really is what I perceive is going to harmful. Because if you don't understand, and then you use D that this is what Islam says it, it is going to harm. And I'll explain in more detail what harm will happen. So this actually works.

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happened Western studies are full of everything. No doubt the problem the mother Assad is because in Islamic law is not in practice in the people don't see it, the people or the mother Assad when they study these concepts,

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it is to them not relevant, you know, they don't see the relevance. So it is something just milk, you've just passed part pass exam, they very, very difficult for them to understand really what a difference between one concept to another concept in what the similarities are there to these people, you know, similar Lee, when, you know, they come to any field to help people in the modern time in fatawa or maybe in Islamic Finance, they again, what I perceive very quickly, the first one by any similarity by anything, that fatherly you know, which can help them rather boom going in detail. So, both of these people really, you know, the harming Islamic IVC soon, inshallah the

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harming in many, many ways. One thing is very important to understand that the guidance only can work, if it's understood properly. And if it is conveyed properly, if people change it is no more riders. The change that happens is actually a result of two things either intelligent run, you don't want to be guided you basically just because you think really mostly, they're a big Muslim population, they only will be happy if you use it Islamic terms. It's like fatwa to you basically want to teach them something alien by using Islamic announced to you can persuade them you can basically convince them. So your intention never has been killed never has been guided. So your

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intention has been basically to corrupt, you have a certain idea in your mind, and you want to use this Parana soon to support that to when the intention is wrong, it never can be right, it's impossible to the first major problem for both sides agree foreign investors curves and forest cars the mother says the intention narrow right when intuition intuition or right good minimes is a really sometime you want to work for certain people like in the West, you know, like medical doctors, you know, people who will assist in the medicine because they work for certain companies. So their intention really to support support their idea whether to in harming the people's health or

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benefit and don't care. So that was the intention. The similarly when people who work for certain gurus the intention to find a guru for them to follow up is that example if there is any project a big project by any, any any major bank, or you know, they want to make some it's like products you're working for them. your intention purely is to find arguments and redress from the Parana sunan from Islamic sources to support that, and I've seen really people do distancing. So, you know, one of the major problem is because you don't really want to be guided your whole intention is to get support for something that you already believe in.

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Sometimes it could be motherhood school, you can follow Mohan Hanafi or Maliki or Shafi or humbling to meet in what consists more in my school, not exactly ready to make effort to understand what parents do nothing, how they guide, you know, it could be possible that in past they will have had a female have you know, has an opinion, it was useful for the people of certain time and certain region, but now maybe there have been 100 female that is not relevant to the people maybe will care for other mother is more relevant to the people, but you know, it is not my intention, my intention not to guide the people my intention not to find the truth, my intention not to help the people my

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teacher rather really is a period, my own mother my own school, sometime you know about elders and sometimes this thing, you know, there are many, many things, some of our identity, we believe certain things and we want to you know, go along with it. So, these are the two major problems, which are there really, and I was really,

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I mentioned yesterday in Oxford class as well, that last week, you know, was thought you know, normally one, most of you must be knowing him. So, you know, in one month earlier, he came in when he studied something about river, you know, and I explained to him in massive detail, that he sent a video of someone biggest color from Pakistan, who express in a river in a very different way to when I heard this he asked me my opinion, to I found really big mistakes. And the problem really is confusion between different concepts of Academy Islam. You know, what, what people what is the river, it people if people know understood properly, they can connect it to different chapters for

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upper Islam you have Chapter The buying, buying and selling a car renting dealer buying or selling, when you sell the item itself a car they wouldn't be sent to sell the facility not the item itself. Do you have you know, you have buyer, you have a car, then you have, you know, basically business when you have you know, like partnership musharaka mudaraba. Then you also have either some charity, like we have part of it, you know you borrow from some and one of the type of cartels.

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Aria, you have Aria,

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and you know, just like that. So the rubber, you know, if people don't understand really, they can connect rubber to any of these chapters, when you connect labor to the chat of HR, it basically will become something different. The implication basically will be what is the highlight become Haram, and many horovod gefallen, okay, because you're connected to a chapter, a different chapter, if you can connect it, you know, to, to chapter of, you know, part of it, it will be different. If you're connected to a chapter of the Bible, it will be different. It depends really how you understand these things in the data from not only human really, I found many, many problems, many people who

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have, it's really remarkable. in Oxford, I found relevant the string ariba, they really don't understand which sector of the faculty belongs to. If you don't understand this thing, what will happen is if you keep doing mistake,

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you can also argue that the Muslim scholars who actually make river connected to certain children, maybe they are wrong, it's possible, but firstly, try to understand them. Try to understand what exactly they say the problem really miracle don't understand what the thing they try to understand why they're saying something. What the Quran Sunnah, says, it must be understood properly. To me the one of the things, I encourage you, you know, all of you, there are very few women today, more men, the last week, we have been hearing No, but question about the moon, more women and less men. But the thing is not so difficult, difficult as people think it is just, you know, if everybody's got a

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mind, you need to be more thinking, thinking and understanding it is basic, not tiring. If you don't enjoy it so much, you basically force yourself maybe after a while you start enjoying when because you're hybrid. But people really need to work hard, because most of the time, it is a pleasure to work from my intention, sexier problem is laziness. People don't do research properly, meaning people don't collect the data I've seen really in providing most of my PhD students, what happens people are very lazy, and just want to get degree. So they want they don't do research properly, no little information and they want to make some theory some general generalization. And that is big a

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big problem for you know, because that basically is a corruption of the research, that what happens is like, one example I gave yesterday in the class is and it is very easy to understand. For example, many, many people will say that women in Islam, basically are half of the men

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and dogmatically because you can see, you know witness to women in a witness are equal to men.

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And they also can see the share of the women in inheritors be the half of the share of the men. So it means that women are half of the men in Islam.

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So, this works with what we say actually it a very, very poor research.

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Because in even in a inheritance, it is not women all the time get half of the half of the share of them in women actually sometimes get more than the men. Sometimes we may get equal of the men to first you have to understand this thing sacred to even witness it is one particular witness where women are women basically need to support Otherwise, there are so many types of witness where they don't need support. There is witness equal to the witness of the men, and sometimes their witnesses prefer over the witness are the men that I explained last week in detail. Then if you do research properly, look at rulings about the women everywhere else. If when men pray is over for rocker. Do

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women need to do a tracker? No, it is same for Raka men have to fast one a month do the women need to foster more than one month notice a month we may have to pay this occurred two and a half percent do women need to pay more than or less notices say payment height is obligatory and the same under women is a different area different between the hijab the men or women, men when men do or do the same model in washing the four parts in a suit, meaning it will do if men and women do the same thing. The half of the men and women is same thing, say of the men or women the same thing. Their capital punishment is same thing. If a man is steals same punishment, if a woman steals save

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punishment, if the man doesn't deserve punishment, if the woman does the same punishment when they like the same problem, you know when they are same thing, if a math teacher, it is same teaching if a woman just same thing, there's no difference between messaging and whimsy, no, collect hundreds hundreds of examples. Then you see really actually men or women or both are the same. It will leave few things where they differ what is the reason but if you just take those two examples are using generalize them. They're not problem happen to many, many people don't make proper effort to understand the concept. You know what Islam is teaching and you need really a proper research much

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deeper research good examples clearly collecting the information as much as possible.

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Otherwise, you know, you meet one or two people from India and July that an Indian girl is stupid or something like that.

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I'll not be happy, because you know, I will think No, you do not disagree properly, you do need to do more research, you know this thing try to understand really, we can't expect from the many Western people to do this to get to know they don't have any in this attachment to Islam, but Muslims should do. But the parameter really in the use T the mostly that people's intention really is not to do research properly, their intention, something else, the intention, the degree certificate, the job requirements of the job. I know really one of the inner talk men in western Academy different Muslim, and he writes on his return radically exactly, it shouldn't be for a

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Muslim to explain to me the reason he's in debt a job that I understand, you know, that you know, if he writes like a Muslim, he will lose his job to he had to pretend you know, his neutrality and objectivity in objectivity basically means that you don't support Islam, you know, in every single thing if you have mathematician the objectivity really, to be excited for your field, and to support that their objectivity, except Islam. If you are Hinduism, enjoy every part of the Hinduism means you get this great scholar for Christianity the same thing. But in Islam, objectivity really took rsyslog to that what many people think? So in regards to how can express something good from those

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scholars who are studying for the sake of the job? Or for the sake of their position? You can't expect it but people say no to somebody Muslim and this and that, you know, I'm going to do anyway. So these problems I measure really are very serious problem. It really we don't have proper you know, neither Muslim Western scholars, and either Muslim history scholars have not been proven amateurs or not people from diversity, who really have effort to understand this concept properly.

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When you study was to check out anything Islam, you need future student properly. One thing is try to understand these concepts, as they have been explained and understood by the people who basically mirror them to like, if you want to know, you know, is a Mateus the first step really try to understand what they mean by that what what the teaching is, you know what enough Shafi wants to teach us what we want to teach us what 100 people want to teach what they want to teach us to understand that concept properly what really whatever the tea first looked like everybody if you learn how the first cohort is doing in what are these in Buhari wider chapter and what what exactly

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he does? Second step will be after that real easy, what is the wisdom? Okay, after all this, what we get from that, if we learn edema is just such a ruddy teaching us if you learn nothing more Shafi teaches what you get from that. In what what, you know, what the what the purpose? 100? Why do you want to teach us something like that? Is there any anything here is any helpful? any help from that second step in this? The first step is try to understand them? What the second thing is, try to understand the purpose behind it, what they do, then the third area, do they have any argument for that? Do they have any are met when that's when they're a certain concept? What their arguments is?

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If they do they agree? Do they differ? If they're different, who actually is more right? Whose arguments are much better? You know, you have to understand that, you know, this, then is the third step. The fourth step really is to try to understand, you know, is this really the best with

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the purpose that they have manually? Are this concept the way they explain? Or the more helpful? Is there any other way to do the same thing and much better, much easier? Okay, all human knowledge can we do can it improve it? Can it improve the techniques, can we commit better because then you have to present it happen all the time, keep testing your techniques, because in your, in your world, with the competition, too, you have to compete? You know, we compete against Muslims, against non Muslims do you have to keep testing really are the subject and then actually on the top of that is mistakes. Because when these people are near people, they you know, develop this conception,

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certainly they have dumb mistakes, because they're not Professor messengers. If they differ from each other, it means that they don't agree that they find the mistakes of each other. What are the mistakes? This these things are important to understand? And actually the last point directly the very least recent people are very, very basically very less keen to find any article not even finding mistake, if somebody finds it, they're very less into accepted.

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And that actually very harmful I'll tell you why harmful for the apple, when you learn a language,

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it all players language basically, is I'll come to you just play us which analogy basically, you know, you don't learn all the sentences that you go to use on your life. You learn some sentences, and then you you know, basically produce your own centers in the electronic will have the language basically based on the previous example, where a child nothing which he doesn't pay us, but sometimes a mistake. He doesn't mistake

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appears to what happens is it you know, people see us It will make his players left out, nobody's got to follow his players people will know related mistake to his mistakes will never be followed it to finishing the work any little bit right even in the time Yeah, sometime you know did a mistake in the language, nobody follows because people could easily, you know, it is a mistake in people do mistakes in the language, what happens if you don't follow them, they're left out to people's use it all those things, you know, you easily similarly foreigner friends like building in why, you know, good, I'm good India from India, I built time here, then I come and apply the same wisdom to build a

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Google Buddha building in this country. You know, things are different, you know, the weather is different, and you know, everything is so much different, it could be possible that I'm great man, you know, to build something in India. But when I built here, people could see the problem. Two, what will happen after while they discover a problem by building, they're not going to follow me to my mistakes will not be followed, because people's experience will let the people know that actually it has problem it mistakes, if somebody is in a source of growth,

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if it does mistake two very quickly people comparing with other, you know, tailors, they will know the mistake to nobody could follow the mistake, they leave it out. That happens every single field in every single field, you know experts and big people they do mistakes in every field mistakes out there. But what happens here, because people's experience and you know, and knowledge and all those things that he knows the people can see really the problem to do that mistakes are left out, nobody follow the people in the mistakes, too all the time people keep improving and purify the concept from those mistakes.

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This is something which did not happen in Islamic field. The reason is, people's appears, their thinking their idea, even their presentation, they become sacred

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to you study them or something sacred. You don't think really that impossible mistake and less lead out of a move on if Mr. Rouhani Ferrara says something you study it is something sacred. If our Malik says something you studied at a second to the probably muscly Abu hanifa mistakes are followed for 1400 years, it will be followed Mr. Chavez mistakes will be followed by his followers in unto the death Yama because we take them as empty circles, we are not thinking that human mind is the kind of mistake and they have done mistakes, we don't do this to these problems are very serious problem, you know, in one way basically is you people just you know, want to learn something basic

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concept on past exam, if there is a purpose, then I don't really need to explain all those things, but I really think he will be new really some Buddhist scholars, some some people who can think that they can help with this original server properly. So, keep this mind really that you know, it is very, it is really you know, it to be important for us to find the truth, it are So, very important to us to know the mistakes exactly the same, it has same importance, if you don't find the mistakes, mistakes will be followed and then actually corruption will remain in the society and corruption will remain really it will not be helpful for for anybody people need to know the mistakes and he

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will only kindly follow the oldest as I mentioned properly to understand the what they say

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understand the purpose behind that understand their arguments. Understand really is there any techniques better than that to you to find the same thing and the last one is to find their mistakes? What mistakes they have done once you have done this thing then it you really can't be helpful for the people and that one is ended then actually even people who are not Muslims, they will you know benefit from him. So these are the thing it is inevitable if he if he says something mostly about I'm from other scientific IQ sorry mothers I know what happens if he will say something or leaving his hearing without thinking understanding what he said that makes sense or not. Could it

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be helpful for us is something you know people don't listen in the money is somebody sitting have a shop really that in but I've got you know somebody from Oxford, you know, he has more experience? Maybe he's not a Muslim or not this, but he can teach you how to earn more money with oil. Bring him in, I want to learn from him. When the money comes, you don't have any money have no religion, no masilela nothing there is no identity, nothing to follow. You want to learn from everybody experience. But when it comes in Islam that even have military Mr. Shafi, the Shafi Maathai the Maliki book, and this is this book, you never you remember really in the same process actually, not

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only that he will become more and more narrow in one Deobandi on this one the under there won't be it remains like my elders and this and that. Somebody written a long email to me and people keep writing to me all the time anyway. But you know what, without better I don't understand it. Some people think that they criticize me and that says something, something bad to me. Delegate reward, and I

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I get rewarded. So you know, somebody's written a long email in Okay, citing me very heavily that you know, Avaya criticizes domani people and these people and that, you know all these things in an unnecessary problem.

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So it is this thing really people have missed attempt to cycle to if somebody criticizes without understand really is criticism based on something, you know, whether or not it helpful for you, if somebody criticizes you, you know, be positive learn from that. So anyway, this was at least something I wanted to say in the beginning to inshallah, when I teach you, it will be helpful because you know, it will serially are not going to teach you the concepts as they are only I'm going to spend, but I have to quit going to Crystal also very heavily that you know, the problems with that mistakes, and that not necessarily that what I said more, right, it is basically to

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training to think like that, to take it more critically, it could be possible that what I said doesn't make sense to you to find something better, but understanding and thinking the very, very important does matter.

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The first thing I'm going to teach you is your mouth

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is really the one thing which has been misunderstood actually not only Gemini, Gemini, Gemini both have been missed understood a stood by the people. And the problem really lies is it well, you know,

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you know, you you get guidance from the parent sooner and then you might also help you if the purpose of guidance, but when he Scilab became theologie and kalaam came in there really the purpose complete change really, the purpose basically becomes something else. What What is your MA in the time of Oh, honey, final Malik and these people is Mr. Letter are because something else? What was chaos in the time of those people, it became something else, whatever the tools they use to understand the Quran and Sunnah, in the earliest period, that tools have been changed. And that was sort of ossola 30. That is those tools which help you how to understand the rulings from the plan

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sooner, if the tools have been changing, you know, certainly it will, in effect, what problem really to understand really what the real tools are. So these are also, you know, I'll tell you in details, it is my anyway, is Mr. High the problem and the PRC and some of the details is crucial, but before that, just try to understand how this region is raising, you know, Allah subhanaw taala has sent you the Quran and I messenger and the teachings basically are enough for the guidance of the people until the referee among them nothing missed out

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what you need to really eat it to you the tools of properly to get understanding for when I said to you when your child loves language, you know, he time cuts when hear the long enough examples, after that he can use any center he can make his own sentences. So though his life is much bigger, his word to use in many, many more sentences, then he learned well not a problem, too. Similarly in the life there will be many many cases

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you know,

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in maybe because in the Quran, but what Quran has teach you this enough for all postings to for example, if the Quran actually teach it, how to how to pray, what the preferable 11 comes from the same way

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if you learn the language, that is MFI, neither muscled and covered in ASEAN

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and you will learn 1020 examples then you can make millions of examples

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by the chaos, this peer does not immediately what you have done the grammar was incomplete and the new grammar only actually got

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one 1% of the horrible language no actually rules also general now one once you learn is of a nightmare Sue and furthermore food you can apply it apply it to millions of sentences that one on centers to when you say hamari the hora de one worsen, but you know 10 to one tea drinks which are the same problem, it applied to all of them you can't see any foreign one taught you 1/10 of the alien. And then most of the things you can for appears No. It basically this how it is or what Buddha has taught really easy. That's what the meaning was that you implement applied to everything else, everything else, that what also have been misunderstood by many, many

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Assouline who come from the column background, their misunderstanding is very similar to economics, paper of economic economics, also the same thing. They basically always said that the resources are you know, are you know, sec no is scarce. You know, they're very little, a nice other people are unlimited to economics, basically how to find the virus between in limited resources, unlimited news are the people that what people think in economics that work with nothing, and that actually exactly same thing has been done by the people in Islamic economics. But people they don't understand it differently.

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ungratefulness to Allah subhanaw taala that you think really that he created you and but he did not created in fulfill your need properly in that Europe

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what is created the university more than the need of the people

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just need to understand properly. But directly first thing they learn economics is this thing that what many mousseline actually Ivanka Harman I'll come up with not only himachali people have been simplistic, certainly not true in other Puranas so not only wanted is basically saying you like a sci fi the book is one Li 1% of the Arabic language. No, it covers everything. It does not leave anything. Do not for us not don't leave anything to the first tip try to understand really is that what sooner or sooner is not that you know, you we started making kolender, Parana sooner does not actually answering all the questions. Now you've got certain tools which answer every question

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independent of Parana sooner is not really what also reflected the tools which help you to understand the Quran and Sunnah in such a way that they answer every question you learn in the how to get answer from the Quran sooner. So now let's what Allah said, he said, Yeah, Manu, have a

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simple matter, obey Allah and obey the messenger,

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every single matter that what he will do,

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will only remain cool. And then those who express although in charge of your command, like in the in,

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in the politics, in politicians in America,

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when you

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are making effort to understand what Allah says, when you are making effort to understand what the messenger says, when you are making effort to obey the order Amara, sometime dispute will arise.

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I think this word poor answer and you say this word currency to when dispute arise what you do file tunnels are often fishing for Voodoo law who was sued if you have dispute? they'll refer your dispute your defenses to Allah's Messenger serially who is has support from alleged messenger don't refer just to your mother when you need to refer just don't affair really Oh, we have difference. Let's see what automatic do one see.

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What Salafist color say, this is a neighbor has been taught by the Quran sooner, what a life teaching you that when difference arise. What happens is you have to refer back to Allah, His Messenger and the process in quantum to manana Willa volume will offer if you believe and last day there were

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references never to anybody else references always But well, when dispute hypers refer back to the Quran sooner.

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There is a better wiser good reason to find the reality to find the truth to come back to truth. The best way if you want to get the truth, the real truth, this is the way you need to do. If you are a more intersexual your own guru your own septarian interested there is not happening but if you want to find the truth that you need to even other liar is

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he he mentioned this was a dentist they said very nice thing really. He said for an hour nafi hairdryer for what nah ha Jamia Alton lagoon Lima Taka lemon now Sophie here our follow Him and offer him me miasma Walla Walla fulfill him. He says when we look in this verse of the Quran, we forget this verse of the Quran includes every single thing that the Fatah have discussed, or anybody had discussed, from the beginning to that anyway discuss any matter this was actually cause all of them, whether they agree with the default.

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Or the other two are with Judas ivory, actually, in the poor in this verse. Why? Well, they disagree it also in this verse, and whatever about that, and Leticia Allah azza wa jal, all the rules, and all the way after worship, anything that Allah has had made, Leia should do on her settlement. vatika nothing really is left out from this verse. This verse makes everything very clear.

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Then he said, after the mission of the verse of our soul to my alma mater, lacantina to do actually have different meaning of that virtual friend maybe some other time anyway. He says, I happen and Edina by the camula wattana after this was we believe in that Legion has become complete and ended workqueue lewmar Kamala ferlay salahaddin Anya z the fi, Wallah, ingenico sahoo Monaco, Monaco Wada and Yuba della who if something's complete, then nobody can write complete, how can you add something, something complete, nothing can be added. You can't take out anything that is complete otherwise make it you know,

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incomplete and you cannot change it. completely perfect. You can't change it for Sahaba I opinion and Edina kulu La ilaha illa Allah azza wa jal therma Allah Sanders will last a lot is a lot to from this verse become very clear.

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Religion only will be taken from Allah kehidupan are completed, and are the tongue of the Messenger of Allah sallallahu Sallam for whoever nahi You are the Irina, Umrah, rabina azzawajal cut the messenger is the one who conveyed to us the kamada for Lord wa who is forbidden whatever Hata who and what he allowed lamb obon lira Elena Shea and I like the Hydra hadoo nobody has got duty SW from Allah except nobody can invest was the message of Allah in the armor in the night in all those details except the profitable Rasul Allah Salah meaningly Allah did not choose anybody after him to become messenger nobody whether image restore tell for a libre see now farabi of Nairobi a Sufi Oh

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honey family can Shafi none of them have been chosen to receive the mercy from Allah subhanaw taala

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well, Ali, salaam Leia Buddha Shan Minar in Tennessee, and the Prophet sallallahu Sallam never spoke anything out of his desire never had been lacking on rabita Allah will lay on the couch to make the most of his Lord from Allah Allah serenity will unblock me now that will ramble. They are the one word to stay for hormone ladina Yoga lagoon a Nigerian Baba Ji Lin ma Rasulullah sallallahu Sallam while he is alone on Yahoo. Jana from Cheyenne, Arsalan and these people the kind of VEDA myself Allah and His Messenger, one generation after the other generation in a herd he sefa to Dean I'll hop under the cool Luma Idaho for Bothell, wa la semilla Dean, this is the discretion other to

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religion

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which is true or anything other than that is false. It is not from the religion, that what we need to understand from the beginning really, there you understand the purpose of soulful, but a powerful certificate not really to add any to the religion, we did not really change anything did not to take out anything, this never has been the purpose

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was simply basically this religion is complete in the Quran. So now, you need to understand the Quran and Sunnah in such a way they can get God provided for you guide us for all the new things that happen in this world. As you learn the grammar in such a way that you can make an expression that when learning grammar is once you learn Arabic grammar, then you can make any sentences if you cannot make sentences, then there is a problem then you need to learn more and more. So what you need to realize also the fact base will provide you with the tools which can enable you to understand the Quran asuna in proper detail, and then it will be held for you to understand any new

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cases. If your understanding changes the Quran is not solely

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sorry, never amended or if actually takeouts decrease something or increase it the religion then basically you're not using proper tool written or the default route is what rasuna lacking if adequate if I use a suntan oil goes up get the Arabic grammar there it is nothing to pay us I cannot. So this class is useless because everybody will say you don't know or you have not properly in aprs was changed the reason it can't be appears It is simply misunderstanding if we don't allow chaos like that in the language same similarly we cannot allow a US like that in the Islamic religion it meaning it is it is mistake

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is it clear to everybody

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now one of the things in also which are also needs to be understood before coming

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to the perception matters then account comes I don't want to teach you all the full details but it is really important to understand how to understand the persona the most part of silhouette is it those techniques which provide those tools which help you how to get the means from the persona we discuss arm and Haas Motorola can do the most rotten one and all those to do even those concepted in the certainly I believe there have been mistakes of misunderstanding to them, but I don't have time to spend those days. But anyway you need to understand the industry enough aluna Rama loudhailer and also you know people you know before that there have been complaining that oh Sorrell SAP has been

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very heavily influenced by color.

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What actually happened I think that what you need to understand

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you know what what the grammar is

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you know how you make grammar.

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grammar is based on a very simple material what is the Torah is to try induction meaning you gather enough examples on basis of which we can you can understand the patterns of the language

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You have got hunters example where are people make a smurf in normal zoo. This is where you did our example

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enough example to basically to ensure for you that is of a nine are we gonna move on soon

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enough example to have or have enough Murphy enough example that what you do meaning that whenever you make or sue for the language, there's a grammar you base artistic around you get examples and make like that, that what you do really for every language center if you're writing grammar for Urdu language you need to do is taper off or do usage well how we'll do people classic real people whose language

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if you want to write a grammar for English language, you have to really find out what are the period of English and when when actually it is really authentic language, then you study the research and then you find the pattern and make the grammar that allow you to do

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that what also lets you know So, basically what you need to do is study the Quran sooner properly and the study that how the professor listen and how his companions they have been driving the rules from the Quran, Sunnah a lot of those techniques properly and understand that that what

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is a clear based on what is possible will be based on this data, you know, anything for Apple, if you want to know the hybrids of Indian people living in England, what the hybrids are in eating anything, you need to basically collect data about Indian people in the hybris enough data, which kind of gives you the pattern

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if it is not proper data, then it will not give you the button for anything you know whatever even actually plants, if you want to understand how the plots work really, you have to have a proper proper study of the same plot in different environments, you know, how they how they behave, you have to learn this stuff.

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So, you know you know the patters from studying a no juicy yet you know particulars, you know again again many many use yet that will stick around then you get the pattern there to what is possible. Meaning if you study really that how the professor understood the Quran you know how his companies understood the Quran, whenever a new case comes to how they differ, how they find the connection in in the Quran, the verses about inheritance are very few.

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But on the base of these two verses, how the computers were able to give a twofer any complicated case of inheritance, what they do really what are the problems? What are the in those cases where they agreed? Where are the what are the cases where even Masood differ from xenophobic or sedef? how it differs from Omar Omar, what are the cases to understand what they agree and understand where they differ. Once you know what they agree that would be very helpful when you also know when they disagree, it also be helpful for you to consider in this matter, there could be two different like for example, difference between the school School of Pharmacy in Nicaragua, the difference can

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happen in India In India, we have the first person who do grammar in between two schools like no one Daddy, that can happen, there's no harm in that difference will happen. But you need to understand in on the base of example, enough example enough data that what actually we call a Surah fekir Allah

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Allah basically to study the examples of understanding of the canal sooner in early generation by Sahaba by Darwin and by people like that, how they understood find the pattern and then put them together to make it cool yard from the yard. You make major rules or find the patterns from the sticker that what is actually when we sell so the third part that is meaningless is a clear

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that actually also is the same thing also, there should be if you want to really know what's a favorite means

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right away to study the use of the word Sufi in Hadith by all the major experts. One of the humble says when you know people like him to say Buhari says Sahih Muslim says he, when all these people say these are this is I

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don't think really all do this with SSA, what they've got in common.

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It will help you to develop really the pattern, find a pattern and then you define the hazards something

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will happen. Is it clear to assume a set to basically have the full Chi based on the step induction meaning in gathering enough information from the examples of the understanding of the Sahaba Tavi of the Quran, that it also reflects

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what Greek philosophy had done with it philosophies Where is not a go to particulars, actually the inner people clever people, they they are bored of the particular things they don't like particular thing their mind

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always goes big, big picture something big. So they imagined really what something should be, that they've experienced in something that might have wasn't what should be really, if you study a text, how you understand it,

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what should we are modeling to do things to do if text is coming from God, and He used the word gender, the gender, it must be gender. And because a workbook of a god is actually in a party, then it is generated by if somebody wants to make it a town, you know, has a specific meaning, then he shouldn't bring an argument equal to that. So that's this one leaking from the Quran, and the Sunnah. matamata this and that, you know that what do you sit in a room, in a in an office, you know, in, in, in industry of Oxford, and I professor, I want to make rules, how to understand the Quran, to what you're doing, if you're not going to read the examples of Sahaba went to boring for

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you, the richer you are clever man, you just make yourself do the suit how you understand any language when people still have you understand the let's make the thing when people use our meaning command. If Allah says something, his commander to his when he says, use a hammer, it must be obligatory, very far a bit is must be Haram in all the time, if you want to have another meaning you need to another good meaning if I'm just sitting in a room and make all those rules for a minute, you know, my own learning, you know, without going to particulars, that how the Greek philosophy is when they made logic that how they made logic it does not mean they don't know anything about what

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they know really, but they do not worry really to know everybody's use it in the deck clever people they think how she should shouldn't their mind was too cool, yet not too bad, not particulars. They already are concerned about their two degree logic and philosophy when they're closer to Islam. You know, the influence Muslim philosophers. Therefore, our Muslim philosophers came to group after Mozilla, or Motorola because they're Muslims, and defenders of Islam. So they then of course, are much more than Muslim philosophers in the scene and far away they did not influence Islamic Thorson either maternal mortality. Because Muslim philosophers as you can see, clearly people did not

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connect that to Islam. They thought they are extension of same Greek tradition. timless Sina farabi are more associated with Aristotle, rather than to a bonafide American Shafi. So it was easier for the people to you know, to deal with them, you know, not to be fooled by MC not farabi, you know, but we're more than lucky to have different metal, they are the people, defenders of Islamic champions, and, you know, debates against us, Christians and Hindus, and this and that. So they became, you know, well, you know, deeply within Islam. And the techniques were very developed and hide it, you know, is currently and you know, original, but they have tradition in all the kuliah

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and not just in Mexico since today, they sat down how she's been in the column, they make rules that house things to be in the fact they may rule how things should be, how the parties should be the most distant, certainly, then people have surgery and all those people, they came at the default for a multizilla you know, cut the influence of this and this and that. So, anyway, the compromise was done, meaning it the to something for a mandala. At the same time, they also, you know, did not leave there earlier, a sell off to something between actually school came and Moto G school come in decent data, but it became, you know, very fashionable to discuss those two parameters. Very good.

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You know, your argument is distinct Largo to make good arguments to assume effect basically was done earlier by Mozilla. Mozilla are the one who as I call them, they're pioneers in those in and I don't mean that Oh, cerca de vida,

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Mr. Shafi, but very quickly in the third fourth century, most has become more dominant

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to then actually people because actually if you're debating the Mozilla, will you debate a committee you need to know their techniques, their arguments, and what would they say show them that I noticed more than you do, you want to compute them in that field, that they become debaters all within our influence always, you know, the debate, but also influenced by their opponents all the time keep happening to they become influenced by them. After that we know more. Sherry besser Shafi Shafi Susan became very much influenced by Motorola especially back in learning and Penny mama Farah man very marvelous early Dell raazi ossola circa basically our Shafi school became associate Tata

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Motorola basically very little differences that what happened or color it all house should be not what is the How should it be variable to example, because they don't, they're not good about examples. They give this kind of heartache and then all those things in such a detail, just for their mind, but they're not nothing's the examples. Were really, they are clever people. Then they influenced everybody. The Hanafi Hanafi jurists were not so much concerned about Calum, but probably will fill in Bella Dodd. And in Baghdad, there are these big people back in dalyan. This way, people who divert you have to you know make your tech and improve your techniques to become locked.

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203 people like him just saw a rise in all those people that again is starting, you know, during the making those willeford you know, coming similar to that opposing them are different from them proving them. So, if you want to justify your techniques, you have to basically bring the same arguments, they start the asado initially to another 100 years to the facts, but still in the remain meaning it possible second, basically, after the third century of his era, it became more theoretical.

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It did not like grammar, the language, it basically became how you should understand a text.

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Their concern is not what how Sahaba and Tallinn and Abu hanifa and Malik understood the text of Quran This is not the concern, the concern, this is Book of Allah, how we should understand it, what should they rule from what should be what are the tools to understand that a text that they have those tools from their mind, because, you know, they think they know in the inner

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you know, human to debt, how to develop it to become more ideal to theoretical, ideal, you know, tools also pusilla basically became irrelevant to the, because phoca don't understand this thing, they don't need this, you can see really two different things. You could go Sudhi but not 40 you are 40 but not too soon. For God not know this is who

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they are in different word. Assouline don't know that there are different word agree or even those who know when they are right fatawa they're right or difficulty when the discuss will affect the sooner you can save as early as early in his books are filled with *ery when una Mustafa ito suli nothing matches that no connection, when you study by Shafi or rosol alumina, they might cut you know the same thing with rissalah directly is just fine the major putter from Rome to RSR aluma they agree they meet each other similarly, you know his discussions on Israel Mohammed Abu in order you know what is related to them, what was it a match is what they have in the fact but Emma was Ali and

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Muhammad and Darrell suit daughter Mason couple complete different matter casinos are also affected become detached from it or become more theoretical.

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So, you know, this is what has been understood by everybody and people realize really, also the second become lost. Until now until now the case is the same thing really. If you go to any Mufti, any madrasa, any judge any court, nobody uses a suit

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when I write an article English or use our grammar,

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you know, I have not used that to Arabic grammar to me as limited as possible. And sometimes when I'm doubtful, I refer to the books and then I learn from them more and then use it to Arabic grammar to merely or irrelevant. Arabic grammar is basically proper proper use of the Arabic language, it never column delimiter cramp game but still the mere rules element something

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or sooner is taken not like that. When I want to derive a ruling from the Quran sooner or sooner, did not help me.

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I don't do this, then what the jurists do in our time, not only out after third or fourth century, what jurists do if you look in the books are the fifth in 100 female Mata Ki mother Shafi with a humble Mother You don't find us a fulfillment but what you're wondering you know via

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Naboo something parallel to that meaning it if they have a new case, they keep looking has there been any similar case discussed by the earlier jurist

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and then basically they benefit from that they don't go you know farther. So,

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they have developed some further some major or those of us which can help them but not also you can also check a basic I'm just vertical it because you know, very little relevance, you know, to the it is very very harmful, no doubt until now this is the case I tell you even for example when people are discussing you know all these things in Islamic Finance and all those people don't go to school so what the book written a while now they don't listen to you know, colleagues in the court and you know, in this separate estate is the same thing. Then look at the examples precedent of the earlier jurist and all dusty and did what they used

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to disagree what in in June and people have been saying about

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the difference between the Africa and telecommute Academy I don't want to read what he has written and it will be long reading but I think I have summarized enough and it is the if you want to look at it is the volume number two, on page number 201. After

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macadam has entered so many different in relation to I don't know which one to use it in are too easy to find, really you can move past them I had discussed. You know Lou Reed also discussed the history of the ALU filter and boron and all those to deliver heading after. So let's just look in that area.

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You'll find a clip or distance a detail that what he has done.

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Now, the problem really easy. This vertical limine method became really dominant in the mind of the garage jurist, even people like Azadi whether the rights are musasa to he is is there a demo of the monthly revenue

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and what actually amazing theory which we are not we should not expect from someone like him what he said, Well Mullah it is in Mostafa, volume number one, page number 45. He said Oh, Mullah utopia, I remembered the material Illuminati, if anybody does not understand properly, this will put them out of the mounting does not know what logic for law, Tata Bill alumi he has fallen, then you can not trust in His knowledge, his knowledge his his whatever he knows with unreal, you know, reliable you can rely on him.

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Then I committed my commit, pull to for a then laughter Tata, Loomis Sahaba whatever you want to borrow him while we were Malik was Shafi on humble then ricotta says all these people because they did not already go see.

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You know, this is so much already that imahara man writes in his books more than once that Abu hanifa did not know any OSU neither little neither plenty.

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Telling me If Mr. Shafi his e ma, ma ma ma ma ma Shafi he's a NASA philosophically Ayatollah hanifa people in the field that depend on hanifa. And now he comes and he said Abu hanifa had no not yet out of those will. Tell me what is happening. It is certainly actually meaning our facility has changed. Those who have felt that hombre Harman discussed it compared different facilities. Certainly Abu hanifa has no knowledge with no need to know that. How can I go any further and why? What difference is made to know this or not for what Abu hanifa knew that was given to the what imahara mine knows to something different? Tomorrow when I'm ready. So, so proud he is he is a guest

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100 feet mother. He is one of the great critical of Harvey Mudd of America Mother Teresa, Abu hanifa did not know any useful, you know, sometimes Okay, he knew something, but he used the word neither little neither plenty, say Malik. He could sell marketable. So, you know, they don't know a new suit. You know, this actually what happened anyway, so I'll cover for the even among Shafi people, there have been some people who are reasonable, they understood the problem and they really are very deeply hurt by this deliberately Shafi mother, Shafi Madhav really responsible for corrupting those who listen to the biggest detriment but no they have no hobbies. I don't know if the chef a chef or

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not, but you know, I consider i'm not i guess it, you know, Shafi or molecule humbly, but this is really real fat really, in this deficit of de la Shafi, the first person who wrote this amid the wrestler, but then the Shafi are the first people who lifted Asana

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you know, they don't have to follow Asana, you need to read Mustafa Mustafa has to nothing really without a salary from Shafi.

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You know same thing when it as Ali said, I you know, I had to have to philosopher, precise philosopher, then he said I wrote him a class for us for Do you understand the concept properly, then you understand my reputation, but if you read both of them, no relevance, the half will discuss something else mocassin discuss something more or less at odd if you let them pass it you will not not have McCarthy discuss other things, you discuss something else and using your own capacity to your people understand the

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neural limits that both there are two different things. Everybody said people have been to study they can see I have taught we have so many times I can see that neural livers that actually what happens what Mr. Sharp Shafi wrote nothing to do with actually what Emma was already writing. Well, Mr. spagnolo Harmon is the books. They're not the same thing. Anyway, now time for the break for the questions. If you have any question, please.

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You know, you the speaker might might

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just

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shift

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I'm shuffling shakes and I I don't have any issue with your statement is now.

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Yeah.

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Actually, I have one question with regard to the approach of also 50 like you mentioned this now 34.

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Cosmetic Libyan

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just to take your view chef, because

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if we study the literature on the development of also fake, there is also a new tendency to,

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to, to jump jamaa to try to harmonize between these two approaches. And one of the or maybe some of the examples of the book is

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Come by, but no sir it and but the only Islam by the way. So, they try to combine between water kalamoon and fuqaha because they can see the advantages of each of this tariqa and then

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also to sing your view shift because now some of the contemporary juries introduced another approach with using mikaze to Sharia as the as the third equalist involved in both, you try to deduce rulings using the theory of maqasid Sharia just to sing your view on this, you know, this generally is not something new, this is

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the best example for that 200 female, what not like Shafi, Madame Shafi might have completely became kalaam to know sollatek Shafi mother if you really are media people like that, arguments after arguments are really nothing too. If you want to know the math, which actually combined between both

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Hanafi madhhab the best example in all the opposite of the you know, innovator justice or raazi or pseudo sucks the syllabus the V all these books in the tech from the inward yes purisima Shafi the odd that actually hanifin people or more Sofitel, Shafi people and I feel so effective basically is more similar to Marcia risala than in the also but at the center, because they had to debate with the Shafi people. So, you know, and also with moussaka limine So, they got information from that to sort of give the best example how to combine between both approaches, but this actually is probably the way it should be different not to combine between the Why should it be that you

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understand those two effects are the avani final medical shuffle, right that discussed it, then you can use a new techniques of your time to present it more for presentation, but if you accept them and combine them, suddenly you are going to delete it and that deviation happens in Happy Mother's Day Happy Mother's Day. But that happened, because what happens is something because you know people like I when when I come to the real example is ma Iijima Hanafi madhhab earlier was something else, but a human now intersolar fit is basically is a mathematical limit. So, you can see though they want to combine but a combination hypers you can see one of them is more dominant to jamaa at the

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moment really all the mother who is in ma what if what had been discussed by multiple women not what was the name of the forecast that had become similarly most discussion in the arm and has been the Moulin Rouge truck over in Amara nine more discussion in this model and how de la de la more discursive they are coming from Tallinn very little Actually, these details are from earlier people, you know, and you can develop them from the examples, but, and also what happens when somebody else has done something, you are very quick to take our benefit from that rather than to develop your own thing to 400 feet people are associated with them very easy to basically to benefit from

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a new pattern and from other people. And just to make like

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whenever Hunniford is the filter to then see on other people that did not need to make effort what they do really, they took it out oh honey phosphate, and then they make their own effect by deferring for you know, wherever they want to defer it because you can flourish, because something already had been done by someone, those will affect what they have so nicely by Motorola. And then you know, then actually people came under no doubt, you know, they have big contribution, the Hanafi and Moloch. And other people, they just borrow, you know,

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it or somebody borrows you know more than the other, but that what actually happened, rather than making it, you know what they need to do really, if you want to benefit from where the color limit is the way to take any other tool, and then discuss really that how this tool is going to help her to understand the way of Abu hanifa America Shafi. They don't do this thing, these are applied to whatever country to them, they apply that are not discussing that, to my thinking really the way of the jump generally is not useful. The way should be to make lepad like you know,

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the nasty boy, your Arabic Now, purely will later people they become influenced by Greek floating philosophy to develop actually the word a definition different from a civil problem happen. There's some people want to combine but it does work, it did no need to combination, you just need to read to start with the same way that nothing and there you don't need to borrow from anywhere else in the web definition 34th from Monday, they are not so complete, they're not so good. That they're very little need really what they need what needs to really just make effort to understand how the earlier people understood the Quran sooner. You know whether you use class ojima whatever you use it

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to make vertical then after that in presentation, you can develop something presentation will be a copy every time. But if you borrow those sulan no problem. We'll be there when

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If you had to I don't agree the way of the Gemma Gemma, Gemma hierarchy by by very early biology people. McCarthy is actually no doubt worse than the way of the JAMA. And that actually I've taught so many times detail but inshallah god of chaos will come I'll explain to you that why the the way of the metasys people is worse than the mocassin people actually have failed so much you cannot imagine mikaze people making a noise for three decades or more than dead or you know, in last one decade so heavily after making all the noise until now they are not able to compile any book after the Keaton was all done was just keep discussing discussing okay then present something right

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because you know people at the kilometer limit whatever they did something they're also if you really think McCarthy did the best a new tool or method to compile the second way easier for the people that do it. write a book complete comprehensive book actually on Islamic fit like you know, you have gotten Masuda Roxy and Kitab Rafi ma Shafi and this and that from so many people, because he wrote a book on why these people are not able to write the whole complete in the letter mocassin multinode, other than discussing and arguing basically, same part again, again, you don't need to convince everybody paper will be kermis when you present your effect completely comprehensively with

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proper arguments, and they can't do reason is because at least has gotten many many big problem and which inshallah, maybe not today tomorrow when I'm discussing the Piazza, I'll explain that in some of those things. I really want to spell properly. What are the real problem the mikaze people