Channel: Ahmed Deedat
Series: Ahmed Deedat - Kenyan Tour
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Salam aleikum wa rahmatullah wa barakato. It's a pleasure and honor to have Chef deedat with us again here in Nairobi. And I'm sure
we are going to learn a lot about what he is going to tell us. But before that, maybe I'm sure each and every one of you knows, Chef asmodee that, but
my dad when he was speaking to us at Sara Lee at
southie Mosque, he pointed one thing, that is, we must read, we must read. And he emphasized that he said, all these talks of his are not for pleasure. They are to make us learn more, and you only learn by reading. Now I met Jeff muddy that one thing about chef Maddox, whatever he says, he has read the quotation, either from the Holy Quran, or from the Bible, so nobody can challenge him. Because whatever he says, he has proof and the proof which is in black and white.
I'm sure you will listen attentively. And when you have questions you want you will be welcome to ask the questions. As for the ladies,
pieces of paper will be sent to you. And those of you who have some questions, those questions will be collected and will be read on your behalf. Now, I think it is my pleasure and honor to ask chef, Padma deedat to address us all. Shed
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and my dear brothers and sisters.
The topic for this evening's discussion is Christ in Islam.
When for the very first time
in my own country, I mooted the subject, Christ in Islam.
There was a consternation among the Christians of my country.
Christ in Islam, they began to wonder whether we Muslims have another Christ, in opposition to Jesus Christ.
To I had to show my audience, and if any Christian burden in the audience, I assured them here and now that we have not got another Christ, there is only one Christ, and that is Jesus Christ. He syedna Maria, Jesus, the son of Mary, he is the Christ.
But some of our brethren,
they have some fears about this word Christ. They think Christ is the only mess with crucifixion. Because the Christian is always talking Christ crucified, Christ crucified. So they think Christ and crucified are synonymous terms,
but they are not.
Christ comes from the Hebrew word Messiah.
The Quran speaks about mercy, Isa Maria Ma, mercy, Messiah in Hebrew, Arabic mercy
translated into Greek.
This Hebrew word mercy Messiah, translated into Greek it becomes Chris Voss
but the US
is to an unfamiliar to the Western world. So the cut of the US and left with Christ. This is the translation of the Hebrew word and the Arabic word mercy, Messiah. What does it mean?
You see me Muslims. We made a salad just now before Salah to make ablution
and during the coup, we wet our hand
And we rub them over
our heads, our hair and the nape of the neck and the years. What do you call back?
You call it massage, massage.
Merci mean one who is
pleased and kings were anointed over with holy oil. So from today you are a very ma'am from today you are a leader from today you are a king anointed, meaning officially appointed. That's what it means nothing more than that. And please end kings were anointed in consecration to the office.
And the Holy Bible uses that word, mercy, Messiah, Christ.
dozens of times
in the Holy Bible.
You'll come across the word no internet, no internet, no internet. But in the original Hebrew is Messiah, Messiah, Messiah
anointed. They do not translate every word that's Messiah as Christ.
The translator is anointed. But priests and kings had been anointed made Messiah.
pots and pans, pots and pans were anointed since the Bible in Hebrew, Messiah.
pots and pans horns, horns of the anointed
of the Messiah horns. Cyrus Cyrus, a pagan, emotional King. In the book of Isaiah chapter 45. It speaks about him that he is the anointed Messiah, anointed in Hebrew Messiah in Greek, Christ.
But the Christians do not translate it. So they translate is anointed. So you do not think only when it comes to Jesus, they translate as Christ, Christ. But this word Christ is a common name, common term applied in the Bible, to priests and kings and even machinic rulers mucinex the Holy Bible.
So Christ doesn't mean God
and doesn't mean the Son of God. It means one who is officially appointed. As such, we Muslims believe that Jesus is the Christ. We Muslims believe
without any persuasion that Jesus was one of the mightiest messengers of God.
We believe in his miraculous birth. We believe he that he's the Messiah, the Messiah translated Christ. And we believe that he gave life to the dead by God's permission, and he healed those born blind and the lepers by God's permission.
We believe you're not a Muslim, you don't believe these things.
But when we tell this to the Christians in my country, it's an ocean of Christianity, my country, we Muslims are less than 2% of the South African population for every 100 there's only two muslims for every 100 there's only two Muslims. So in that ocean of Christianity, if you tried to curry favor, thank you be nice with the Christian that you know if we can say a few words about your Jesus, you in turn might say a few words about our Mohamed Salah that if I scratch your back, you scratch my back. That's very nice to see you also very nice.
We don't do things like we don't tell you about Jesus for these reasons that you may say a few good words about Muhammad. This is what am I speaking is on the authority of the Holy Quran, Allah Allah
in the ayah I read to you from the Holy Quran from Surah
Surah Allah imraan.
In this book,
this encyclopedia called the coda
Did you have a translation?
Where do you find it? 2000 pages a veritable encyclopedia. How are you going to find
paging to Imran Imran
Imran Imran and you go to the whole volume and you didn't find it.
How do you find it?
This particular one has an index a very comprehensive index at the back. You go to the index just like a dictionary. And look for imraan I am I am in Milan and I will tell you chapter three.
Three is easy to find. Because every chapter is numbered, every page is numbered. Three is easy to find. Once you found chapter three surah three and I am telling you that the I read is Isaiah number 42.
I have 4242 is also easy to find because every verses number.
You found it. Yes, you'll find it
Now I encourage you, my brothers and sisters, that when anybody, any speaker makes any reference from the Holy Quran and if it gives you a reference, make a point of going home and checking up.
Not that you're doubting the speaker, that the speaker had any reason to bluff you to deceive, you know, you don't miss those people. On the face, prima facie we take everybody to be honest, straightforward, man gives you a reference as to the Allium Ron, chapter three verse 42. Go home and check it up in English translation, if you have the Swahili translation, if you have, go and check it up, see with your own eyes, really the heart and mind and try to absorb the meaning is a confirmation of what the speaker had told you. So that knowledge becomes a part of your own property and you in turn will be able to share with others that's the secret. The reason is that I want you
to share this. You just hear listen and get entertained and you go away it's a wonderful speech Mashallah, Mashallah and finish gone? No, no, no. Take the trouble of going home and checking up.
I read to you. It reads Bismillahi Rahmani Raheem.
Why is tala till Malacca to Yama Yama, behold, the angel said Oh Mary, who is married
the mother of
the mother of Jesus Christ. What is called Malacca to Yama Yama in Allah has Devaki
Hauraki Mustapha kehlani salamin that Allah has chosen the chosen you.
purified you chosen you about the women of all nations.
This is the front pocket, not the Bible, the plan is to marry the mother of Jesus. The Quran says Allah says she's a woman chosen about the women of all nations.
And this is surprising. It is surprising who speaking,
the Holy Prophet Muhammad, salah
and Adam speaking,
and this added,
is provoking other Arabs.
This Arab is provoking the Jews.
The Jews were a powerful force in Medina, at the time of all prophets, Allah.
They insinuated in the Jewish Talmud, the Holy Book of the Jews. They say that a Roman soldier by the name of Bandera he raped Mary.
And that illegitimate child of hers, was given off as the Son of God. That is the Jewish Talmud.
The Christians embrace the Jews.
They say they killed him as an imposter and as a false prophet. The Christians embrace the Jews. We, we say Mary, the mother of Jesus, she was a woman chosen about women of all nations
by saying that Mohammed Salah Salaam is provoking the Jews was not suitable to what they believe.
And he's provoking their data
that this error
is honoring us. A nation that was looking down upon the earth for 3000 years. They still look down upon them today. The Jews, they look down upon the Arab presence. These are the children have had maybe Hydra harder. This means
in the religion is algorism.
They want Islam.
They still look down upon that. There's a father Abraham, a two wife, Sarah and Hydra. Sarah was his legitimate wife. Hazara was a born woman, a woman, a woman from Africa. As such children come for nothing, they are rubbish.
The Jews, they look down upon the Arabs, and this Arab is honoring a Jew is
asking the Christians and the Jews account for that account for that. Why would an editor go out of his way to provoke his own people? He doesn't say my mother or my wife or my daughter. She is the greatest woman the best woman in the world. No, no, he said Marian mother of Jesus. She is a woman chosen above the uniform nations account for that.
The accounting is there.
The Quran continues.
By Scarlet in Malacca, Pia Maria Mo, Mala Mala hasta faki with the hierarchy justify kailani salamin Jamar Yamaguchi lira beekeepers do the with a Marathi in so many worship a lot devoutly prostrate myself and bow down in prayer with those about down Valley come in and by the havy movie
He Laika the source of this inspiration? Valley come in ambala Hi Abby. This is part of the tidings of the things I'm seeing, which we Alesis revealing to you for messenger by inspiration.
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that you don't play, you may not do Mohamad when they cast lots with arrows, as to which of them should be charged with the care of Mary, Norway's are with them when they disputed the point. The story is that the mother of Maria
she was battered new children for a long time. So she prays to Allah for a child.
And she is tempting Allah.
She's tempting Allah, Allah, Allah, you give me a baby, I will dedicate my baby for temple services for your service for your church. For the house of God, I will dedicate my child
thinking that she is going to get a son a boy. Allah heard her prayer.
And the child was born. But the child happened to be a girl a female.
And in no way is a female and the male for temple services. What does she do? She had vowed, she admitted
that I'm going to dedicate my child for temple services. So when the child is big enough
to look after herself, she takes the baby to the temple.
says now who will look after this child to serve you clean up the thing for you prepare your food for you everything that this child will do for you for the police.
Every priest who saw this child, this girl beautiful girl, Maria, every preseason, I will look after her. I will be a godfather to the child. That is I will be a godfather to the child.
And everybody can be a godfather.
So they started this look, let's ask lots. Let us just a pint. So to say hello.
And the casting of lots. It came the turn of Zakaria that he was he won the toss. So when he won the toss, there was an argument
in things like this, there's always arguments. You know, when you play a game of dice, you throw and you know you're not fair. You know, you didn't throw it properly. This is mad when somebody wins. We are always complaining. No, no, no, you didn't throw it properly. You know, you cheated me was a dispute. So allies telling our Navy through the Quran telling us that overcome Matthew and Mark day when they cast lots with arrows as to which of them should be charged with the care of Mary? No, you made a When did you see that the point How do you know?
This is given to you by inspiration? This is the word of Allah, Allah has given to you had no knowledge about this
person. You didn't have recourse to the Christian or Jewish scriptures
that you Jews and the Christian they say Mohammed copied the book.
Mohammed copied the Quran
I'm asking what is the copy?
To copy would be to copy to plagiarize steal somebody else's literature.
The Jew say the Jesus is the enlisted puppy that know what
he's telling you. In the Quran.
marry his moon with an MS insha
Allah macabre soul. Many were the messengers that passed away before him, meaning the water they were subject to death. This man Jesus also will be subject to that.
Mal masuku Maruyama in law school.
And his mother was a virtuous woman, a saintly woman.
The mother of Jesus, Allah says, mercy, Maria in la de su, Casa La Quinta,
da, da, da, da and the Boo. Who
was so wonderful about that. You only
know what Allah is giving you attention. This is she is a goddess. Jesus is a God.
But Allah says they both add food, how can they be gods? Because if you eat food, you have a call of nature. You run to the toilet
does not run to the toilet.
Trying to change the food. He doesn't say just run to the toilet and run down the bush. Rashmi run behind the rocks,
but doesn't speak the language. This is the bowl of food to tell you that they have to call up nature. Does God have call of nature does the pilot or the bush know
See how the making of a science clear to you
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Suman Zoo and now your people how they have deviated from the path, simple, straightforward logic that this man was a messenger of God, he was a human being, like any other human being, no doubt a mighty miracle worker, a great profit, but human, human human eating food, run into the pilot. That's not the quality of God. This is how, what is the duplicate?
So we in the house of Islam in this good news is given to her
about the birth of a Holy Son.
She says, Allah, uno de willemijn says me Bashar, she says, Oh my Lord, how shall I have a son? when no man has touched?
otherwise have uncle a grandfather as she grew up, everybody's touching upon the her making her to sit on the lap.
This patch means sex luminescent. How can I?
How can I have a son when lumen has touched me sexually?
So the angel says in reply by la casa de la, Maya, even so Allah, what he will do is
whenever he decrees a matter in Amaya coup,
de entity, he says, without a human father, just bad. He wants to create a new Jesus's without father without mother.
Just like that.
But a million Jesus without father without mother, who's watching the napkins, who's going to rescue them?
So Jesus needed a mother, the mother, what does that make him into a God, the Son of God, nothing.
This is the this is God's creation, he creates anything what he likes just like that.
Now, this is the Quranic concept of the birth of Jesus.
What is the Christian concept?
You see, the Christians always say that Jesus Christ was one miraculously.
Yeah, I agree.
The Muslims and the Christians, I agree that Jesus was born miraculously, without any male intervention.
But the language in which they say
I had an occasion of visiting the Bible house in Johannesburg.
I was out there looking for an Indonesian Bible.
It was in 1977
Indonesian Bible. You see, I have a habit that when I go to a foreign country,
a strange country, I try to learn the language of the people a little bit that I can start sharing with them if you will, and create a bond relationship. You know that I love you people. I am loving your language by speaking your language. So I was looking for an Indonesian Bible. So I go to the Bible house.
And browsing through the Bible, different Bibles in my country, very sophisticated country.
I come across a New Testament in Greek in English, like this Quran is Arabic, and English. That one was Greek and English, expensive, expensive volume. I picked it up.
Then I found a type of King James Version.
I picked that up. Then I got the Indonesian Bible. I picked that up. But I didn't know that I was being watched. Somebody was watching.
The supervisor said this Indian fellow with a funny headgear in this beard. What is he doing with all these Bibles? So he walks up to me
and elderly gentleman
is asking me my interest in these books. I says, No, I'm doing comparative religion. That's my interest
in these books.
And he says, you know, we believe in Jesus. And he surprised his human
having a cup of tea with me, not at all. Come to my office. I went into his office.
He ordered some tea. And I sat on a chat with him. I said, we believe in Jesus, as one of the mightiest messengers of God. We believe in his miraculous birth. We believe in his many miracles, including those of you who like to the dead by God's permission of hearing those born blind and the letters by God's permission, and the guy couldn't believe is yours. That's what I'm telling. So I started reading him the Quran.
iscala kilmallock Yama Yama again from the Holy Quran, Behold the angel said Oh Mary was 45
way starlet in Malacca to Yama Yama in Allah Riba shirayuki be Kalamata min who that Allah gives you glad tidings of a word from him His mercy, his name will be the Messiah, translated Christ is mercy in Santa Maria Ma, Jesus son of Mary, Daniela Hara held in honor in this world, and in the Hereafter, women will be in the company of this year as to God
as you call them on NASA, and He will speak to the people who will not be in childhood, the majority woman assaulted him, and he shall be of the company of the righteous.
And the guy couldn't believe.
He couldn't believe.
He said this, what you telling me is the same as my book, same as my Bible. And really, really, if you show any Christian
the Quran that I'm reading to you, the verses I'm reading for you, if you just show the person in English, without the Arabic in 100 years, no Christian will test that is reading the Quran, no Christian.
But I'm waiting to behold the angel said, Oh my God, God has chosen you and purified you chosen you about the wonderful nation, Oh, Mary, worship Allah devoutly prostrate thyself and bow down in prayer with those about and he's reading this and never guess is reading the Quran. If he's a Roman Catholic, he will say maybe this is a Protestant version.
The protest anything maybe is the Catholic version of the Bible that you're reading, maybe is the Greek Orthodox version of the Bible that you're reading. Maybe there's a New World Translation of the Christian that you're reading, but he never gets you reading the he's reading the Quran. You know why? It is so close to his heart.
It's only when he sees Arabic.
He is taken aback kiss things met and that this is any new book now. Now he's in his own God, but he reads English. You watch the guys, at times, even when you read Arabic and you translate t as well as in the rice, there are the Jews and Christians. Allah says mimouna lazzaro Mufasa.
among the Jews and the Christians, there are good people. There are sincere devoted people,
people who appreciate Muslim virtues, but the majority of them upper class dresses, they are troublemakers looking for trouble brawling, looking for a fight. There are two kinds.
So after reading this, this is the same as my book I say yes, on the face of it. We are both trying to say the same thing that Jesus Christ was born miraculously without any male intervention. But the language in which these both are talking.
as it falls apart that chalk and cheese, the difference between the two, the biblical version and the Quranic version is chalk and cheese. You know, chalk,
Chalk. Masters teaches us in Canada didn't know.
I'm talking to the Canadian audience. I say chalk and cheese. They didn't know that expression. They know crayon, crayon, not chalk.
And cheese doesn't make sense as a chalk and cheese. Minh pulls apart, wounds apart.
The Quran says for God to create a Jesus without a human father. He says just like
your Bible says, when the same thing the good news was given to Marissa Marissa.
She says how can this thing be when I'm not a man meaning sexually,
so the angels isn't reply and the Holy Ghost will come upon thee.
And the power of the most I will oh god
that gives you an animal picture.
Holy Ghost is a person in Christianity. They say the Holy Trinity the father is God the Son is God and the Holy Ghost is God but they're not three Gods but one God the Father is almighty the son is almighty the Holy Ghost is almighty but they are not the Almighty is Baran. Almighty. It continues the Catechism is the father is a person the son is a person and the Holy Ghost is a person but they are not 3% or one person.
The Holy Ghost is the person that person is uncommon Mary
so you are giving ideas to the atheists and agnostics to beat you with so how did how did the Holy Ghost Come on Mary how like a coward like a boy or a man how
Sweeney doesn't mean that but the language the language is using the Holy Ghost is gonna come on her and Almighty God is gonna overshadow her how
is down to earth earthly language
I'm asking the Reverend Reverend tankers by name retired Reverend as between these two versions, the Quranic version and the biblical version which would you prefer to give to your daughter?
which version would you prefer both are trying to say the same thing.
We are trying to say the same thing that he was one we recommend but the language that this one is using and that other one is using
the language which would you prefer to give to your daughter and he bowed his head down in shame, and he said I would prefer to give the Quranic version
This is the opportunity for us Muslims.
If you have the Quran, a translation make it a point to make an investment by Allah is the best investment you can make. This translation that Bella use with the English is so superb. You don't have to read Shakespeare or Milton to improve your English even
as if the English itself is an inspiration. It is not no Western I can believe that an oriental could have written this language
is a masterpiece of the English language. That piece of literature is a masterpiece. Just forgetting for a moment that is Alaska law is Alaska law. But even from the literary point of view, is a masterpiece of writing.
You owe it to yourself and to know the Quran firsthand. What does Allah say What does Allah say?
index vehicle anything you want to know about Jesus everything about Jesus in the Quran. He's broken up more or less than 25 times
in the Quran by me, Isa syedna Miriam Isa Isa 25 times, whereas Elena via Karim Salalah Salam Mohamad, Mr. kasasa, he's only spoken of five times. Did you know that?
In this vast volume,
he saw Jesus is by name spoken of 25 times the Holy Prophet Muhammad, the recipient of this divine revelation only five times four times Muhammad and one time is altogether five Jesus Christ five times the amount
that Muhammad Salah son's name is mentioned his name is mentioned five times.
What does that mean?
What does that mean? Jesus is more important than Mohammed Salah Salah is greater than Mohamed Salah Salah
Jesus had a problem.
Jesus had a problem. His people the Jews, they say he's the illegitimate child of Mary is a bastard child of Mary.
Allegations charges for status, slander,
calumny against Jesus and his mother. So Allah comes with the defense. Allah comes to the defense, therefore, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus. Why? Because he needed protection, Muhammad Sallallahu sallam, there was no question about his birth about his parents who his mother was who his father was accepted universally. So there was no reason for Allah tala revealing that, you know Mohammed my servant, my messenger, his father's name was Abdullah his mother's name was Amina, necessary.
In the case of Jesus, it was necessary to clear his name and his mother's name. So I love it. Allah comes to the rescue. What is the two copy?
between the two versions as a compare contrast?
Allah says in the Holy Quran, say, Yahoo Al Kitab, who people of the book, lots of Lucy Dini says do not go to extremes in your religion, we are made to say, tell that the Jews and the Christians don't go to extremes in your religion.
Voila. Taku Allah Illa luck. And don't say anything but Allah accept the truth in mercy, most certainly the Messiah, translated Christ. He said Mariama, Jesus, the son of Mary Rasulullah is the Messenger of Allah La Kalamata, who and a word proceeding from him, Allah baja de la Maria Maru Minh, whom we see bestowed upon Mary and the spirit proceeding from him farmina Lee, so believe in Allah and His Messenger Jesus, he's a messenger of God, love him, respect him, revere him, follow him, but don't worship him.
He's not and he's not the Son of God. God doesn't detect. begetting is an animal act. It belongs to the lower animal functions of sex. We can attribute such a quality to God, that God we got a son
When you say that, I love it Dallas reacts very strongly.
he reacts very strongly in the Holy Quran in surah. Maria
our jankari was reading from Surah Maria
chapter 19, Maria Maria and Maria in the index blufor Maria 19 very easy to find
the car he was reading from if 27
we'll deal with that. But this is further down surah Maria, Allah, Allah says,
Allah da, and they say that
the merciful God, he has been caught an assassin.
The Christians say Jesus is the only begotten Son, be caught and not made clear that before
you heard that the Christians say Jesus is the only begotten Son, because not me.
This is all the churches. He's the only begotten Son God has sons by the tunnels in the Bible. He's got sons by the stand, you know, it's a 2000 pound week old, old weighing machine. 2000 pound makes one man, he's got sons by the pennies in the Bible.
Son of God, Son of God, Son of God,
the firstborn of God by the 10th in the Bible, it is no no Jesus is not like there is not like Adam, Adam was created by God. He is described as a son of God in the Bible. But it's not like that Jesus is begotten, not may not like Adam, Adam was made by God, Jesus is the cotton.
So I've been asking this English speaking people, the British and the American. I said, Look, this is a foreign language you're talking English is not my mother tongue.
When you say be gotten not made, what are you trying to emphasize?
When you please explain.
And believe me, no English man or American word the name can ever explain to you what he means.
You asked him some English is not my language, sir. You say because and not made? What are you really trying to tell me?
What are you what are you trying to tell me? What are you trying to emphasize? You see, I can call any one of you, young people.
If I call you my son, you might stand up, stand up, stand up, stand up, stand up, stand up.
If I call you my son, you have any objection to that?
I'm sure your father also if he hears me calling you my son, he'll be happy. Your mother also will be happy.
Look, I love you. You know, like my own child. Like my own son. I call you my son.
When I visit your house, what's your name?
My name, Masha.
So, I come to your house and ask your mom,
my son. So she says he's just gone out is coming back. Yes. Now sit down Uncle, I sit down and you come in, I embrace you, my son, my son, your happy whole family's happy. But my companion who doesn't love a relationship? He's asking me Is he really your son?
says no, you see this young man? He treats me like a father like a grandfather, uncle and I call him a son. Okay? But instead if I said yes, he's my begotten son. You know, the meaning changes.
But I'm saying now, I'm saying You're a bastard. In a beautiful language. He is my because he's not his father, son. He's written by me What I'm saying is the past.
So he says, What do you say? mean that?
I don't mean that. But I'm telling you, my companion doesn't look like my son use of
what am I say? That is a bastard stuff. Can you see?
the game is an act. It belongs to the lower level functions of sex. How can you attribute such a quality to God?
And they say that the merciful God has gotten a son silica
is one of the most abundant of an assertion that one can make the worst swearing can give a license. Like the worst feeling I can give you is to say your mother.
Your mother was very otherwise you arguing with me here? You give me trouble as a government. You are a bloody ox or donkey? As long as you are a fool. Whatever you laugh at us, isn't the old meme that is too tired. Maybe he's taken some fools.
some medicine, you know, he's going off his rocker. You laugh, you laugh. But as soon as I take your mother's name is Uncle I don't
lose all the respect I have for you is already gone. Respect is already amongst I take your mother's name, the respect is already gone. But if you want to change your faces look, I'm gonna lose all the respect for you. Don't take my mother's name Don't take my daughter's name. Don't take my wife's name call me what you like call me donkey call me ask God. Call me an ox. cause me monkey call me what you like. But don't take my mother's name Am I don't take my mother's name Salahi x.
the most abominable assertion we can make. Takada samata pattern, I mean, who added the skies are ready to burst. What unshackle eroglu and the earth ascender
ohada in the mountains to fall down in a terrain, such as swearing
to the heavens and feelings like you, emotions like you unless as the heaven would have fallen down
and the Earth would have split a center and the mountains fall down and if they had feelings and emotions like you,
they are inanimate. They have no feelings, no emotions, you and I who have feelings and emotions. And this is what they're abusing Allah. The worst swearing they can realize this. How do we react
and ask him how do we react?
The whole Muslim world
the Arabs and the non Arabs, the Malaysians the Pakistanis Bangladeshis,
Nigerian Muslims all over the world. The whole band A lot of us, we take it as a joke.
Allah says is the worst feeling they're giving me as if I was crying. Or swearing me like this. And we laugh
like a monkey's, all
the era. The whole bank lot is a joke for us. Therefore we are in this flight. When you go home,
and your mother tells you, this is you know, my son this next was his neighbor. He was swearing me like this. He was calling me
beach. Can you sleep? Can you eat?
Your mother tells you that thy neighbor? This is how he's feeling your mother?
Can you sleep and eat Enjoy your food? You want to shut up the guide for good.
And if you can rate is higher again. nominal cost you 10,000 shillings is what we said is about for both silence and for good. No.
You love your wife, your daughter, you love them. That's how much we love our wives and daughters. But when Allah cries it's a big joke.
The whole Muslim world I'm telling you the whole muscle nobody reacts. Nobody reacts. I haven't come across a single Muslim who reacts to this man that the ocean that people are telling you Jesus is the only begotten Son because not me. What do you say to them?
What is the proposition?
The young child here a beautifully from Surah Maria.
that He will speak to the people in childhood in maturity
in childhood in maturity.
And we look in the surah that the young man read he did. I don't know what made him to read that. I didn't tell him I don't know. I don't know the first time in my life. I see
why here. This is I don't know, as he's giving me instructions not to say as he was giving me instructions.
In case you drift off into something, look, he says look, this is something you should deal with.
That's what the child was telling me.
He started reading this.
For that to be he called Maha tamiu. At length, she brought the baby to her people carrying her carrying him in her arms.
Previously previous verses verse 16, of surah Maria it speaks about Maria Maria Salah after she became pregnant, and before the delivery of the child. She retired to a remote place in the East for the delivery of the child. And after the child was delivered. She brings the child back to her village carry him in her arms.
loo they said the Jewish people they say yeah Maria
truly an amazing thing has brought shocked amazed. We know you're not a bad girl. How do you bring about this bastard child walking around shamelessly in the street? That's the insinuation the charge. Yo Haruna. So sister of her own, coming from such a noble family ancestry of the navies of the bunnies, right in the family. Yo Haruna Makana Abu camera so in Ramadan.
So your father was not a man of evil? No your mother, a woman and chaste insinuating? How is it that you brought this bastard child into the world?
Your father was a good man, you come from the noble family of the prophets of why your mother was a good woman? How is this you come about with this bastard child without a husband? What is she to do?
Can she tell them? Are these Jews in a mood to listen to her explanation? That look, I heard a voice the angel of God came to me and gave me the good news of a birth of a Holy Son to listen to her to accept her explanation. Would you if your sister came along to you, his brother, you know, I had heard some voices and I'm carrying a baby. You deliver
your own sister you know she never lied to you in your in her life. But now she's telling you she heard voices. And she's getting a baby you believe
your mother in the absence of your father for a long time? Your mother says she had a dream and now she's getting your baby you believe her?
How can you believe this us? How can anybody believe
this issue heard voices and now she's getting a baby and she delivered a baby. What did she do?
She knew that this child was more than a child.
So for ashara la so she points to the baby. Ask him
man can I feel mad? He said he said how can you talk to another child in the cradle the baby and by miracle has an ISA Li Salaam spoke from his mother's arms. So calling me Abdullah most certainly I am the servant of Allah. Al Kitab is giving me revelation rajamani nebbia. And he has made me a prophet. He defended his mother against an unbelieving audience from his mother's arms as an infant, first miracle of Jesus.
Puppy copy, Mama, copy this.
From your book, your first miracle,
your first miracle of Jesus in the Bible.
I'm opening Gospel of St. JOHN,
Gospel of St. JOHN,
john, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and john.
The first miracle
chapter two, the first miracle. On the third day, there was a marriage at Cana in Galilee. And the mother of Jesus was there. Jesus also was invited to the marriage with his disciples. When the wind gave we gave out when they ran out. The mother of Jesus said to him, they have no wine.
They went to a marriage feast
at cannon with his disciples, and they ran short of wine. Why any wine come up?
So the mother of Jesus comes to him. He says, Look, my son, these people, they are in trouble. The wind has run out. I know you've got some miraculous powers help them.
So Jesus says,
What am I to do with you? My time is not yet.
Is that have you talked to your mother?
You call your mother woman in Swahili is that a word from your mother? Is there a word?
to your mother? What do you call
in Hebrew language is no word for mother.
She's Arabic, Hebrew,
But he doesn't call her mother. He's the one who bought him for nine carried him for nine months. But all the inserts in the engine is all the calories in the inserts that she bought on account of this child because she couldn't point to a father for the child. Nowadays famous world famous,
distorted miraculous powers. And the mother is pleading says look homeless people out. So this is woman movement. What have I to do with you? My time has not yet but when is persuaded further. He said bring the rats wine, empty bottles, that empty bottles filled up with water and he turned water into wine. The first miracle of Jesus, he turned water into wine and since then,
wine has flowed like water in Christian than
Just was by the wine Easter party why you can't do without wine,
first miracle of Jesus
in the Quran, he defends his mother against an unbelieving audience. first miracle in the Bible of Jesus, he turns water into why I'm telling you to take your choice, which would you prefer? the Quranic miracle, or the biblical miracle? The choice is yours.
So the main point of difference the real difference between us and the Christian the real difference is the divinity of Christ.
Anything else we can come to terms Muslim says new eating the flesh of swine? The guy says pork chops is very nice man. So we'll argue we'll debate the pros and cons and the guy will tell you that you have a point there no alcohol the Holy Prophet Mohamed Salah Salaam he said whatever intoxicating greater quantity is forbidden even in smaller quantity no excuse for a deeper part
there's no little bit in Islam
whatever intoxicating greater quantity is forbidden even in smaller quantity. So he I don't debate he says you know now and then when you think you know, you are more free to talk to you become more fluent. The all the fears, inhibitions go out of you.
This is you know, you can become an alcoholic.
Just a little innocent 1% you can become an alcoholic.
Millions of alcoholics. They started an innocent drink 1%. That's how this beer is only 1% 11 million bankers in America and 44 million heavy drinkers. And Jimmy Swaggart in his book on alcohol. He says between the two I make no difference, like a good Muslim. Whether you're a heavy drinker, or you're a drunk, he said to me, there's no difference between the 44 million and 11 million. That means 55 million drunk
accidents in Zambia town that was saying is that I'm not prepared to lead a nation of bank x. He calls a spade a spade. In my country. They don't call people train cars. They call them alcoholics.
The guy's alcoholic
is drunk cause I'm not prepared to lead a nation of drunk cars, accidents, accidents, and every other watering place in in Kenya. I'm sorry, that's Zambia, Zaynab in the you know, you restaurant every restaurant you stop, you feel like having a cold drink? Beer, beer, wine, beer every year. Yeah. accidents, accidents, accidents, killing people on the road, and so many other. So you're arguing the debate? And the Christian will tell you? Do you have a point today? You know, if everybody was thinking like you, the world would be a happier place.
Dancing with other people's wives and daughters. Again, we'll again we'll debate and the guy said, Now you have a point today, he doesn't get emotional.
The non Muslim won't get emotional, you again you debate and you show your point. So look, these are the harms marriages, a lot of people find the wives on the dance floor, and they also lose them on the dance floor.
You find them there on the dance floor and you lose the mouse on the dance floor to another man.
The The, the attraction of the dance
is illicit sex.
No man will go to dance with his own wife is a law unit as you can dance with your wife identities mind you dance with yours, nobody will go to the dance
is the other man's wife, you know, I can find your wife in turn, I can help you to find your mind. But that's the year of the dance floor is the other man's wife and our other woman
at home, whether you dance at home, with your wife
to the boardroom, why the other man's wife, the other man's wife? This is it. So you show the dangers and the guy says no, you have a point there. Again and again. I've been talking to the non Muslim and he says the only time they get emotional
is when it comes to the subject of Jesus. He said that Jesus is God and the Son of God, and He died for your sins.
So we say he's not God, and he's not the Begotten Son of God and he didn't die for your sin. His salvation depends on that.
You just got to believe the Muslim poor fellow you got to pray five times a day he's gonna pass on the whole month in Ramadan he's got the straitjacket his life no drinking no gambling no dancing go karting. No. Man his street jacket in his life. As a Christian, you're a free man.
Enjoy yourself and crisis paid for it. Whatever you do crisis paid for it. No, if it is true is the most fantastic system Allah, I would recommend to everybody, it is true that somebody can die for your sins, to me is the most fantastic
I don't have to do anything man.
Winter and Summer and late at night Russia? No, this is easy. Christianity, which has many salvation is yours. That's what the Christian says. If it's true, fantastic. If it is true,
but I'm asking
Jesus Christ died for your sins. As
I said, the original sin, you know, Adam and Eve.
they disobeyed for that. Allah kick them out of the garden.
The origin is in the first sin of Adam, enter the world.
So now his children, they're all inheriting that sin.
Today, we are on earth five and a half million little things nice. Five and a half billion 5000 500 million atoms and he lives on this earth. And everybody goes to hell.
Everybody goes to hell.
For what? For the sin of Adam.
Now, there's no way you can watch that sin? No way. No way since the Christian, the only way is you believe that Christ died for your sins. And you are saying you are punished for something you didn't do. And you are rewarded again for something you're in a
It's fantastic. It's fantastic. You are punished for something you didn't do.
And now you reorder the agenda, something you also didn't earn.
Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful. It's true.
I'm saying I'm saying I'm asking.
I'm asking the question.
I said, Look,
Adam asked you before eating the apple?
No. Did you ask your wife before eating? The apple?
says no. And how can What will you responsible?
Did God asked you?
And Adam? I mean, did you ask yourself at Apple? Did he know
that 6000 years ago according to Christian, counting 6000 years ago?
You were not there? How can God put into hell for that?
is the most nonsensical idea. But
1000 200 million Christians of the world the most leading nations on Earth, the guy who lands on the moon, he believes in it.
The American the British or the French, the German, the Swedes. They believe in it, they can be wrong. Can they be
the most nonsensical idea, Adam and Eve the apple and 5 billion people go to hell to save yourself. You go and delete the cache that sins and salvation is yours. Then we also have differences. price was not killed and he was not crucify debate debate. I have this little booklets of mine. I have to work with some bodies in societies that they should be able to give them to you. I have been sending them in the past. And for a long time, there has been a break between South Africa and your country and your trade embargo against South Africa. Now it's opening up but no surface may no surface mail between South Africa and here. We have to send everything by a is cheaper for me to produce a book.
And it's more expensive to send it down. The book cost me more than twice three times the amount just to send it to you. It's killing but inshallah we'll work out a system. Yet this book clips of mine was Christ crucified. What was the sign of Jonah? what the Bible say about Mohamed Salah Muhammad, the natural successor to Christ, Christ in Islam, and master these little facts and go to town, the world is yours. The whole world is our diocese our field of activity. So with these words, I'm very very grateful for your bodies and societies at a moment's notice certain minutes notice almost got this few 100 people or a few 1000 people, my my brothers and sisters to come and listen
to me honoring me a lot one of you, Barbara Davina hamdulillahi Rabbil alameen
Anybody has got any question, please line up here. And the mic is here for you to ask questions, please line up so we don't waste time. You know, don't drag your feet, please come along. And once we have established a line, there won't be any more people keep on dragging the feet and coming one by one till midnight, we haven't got the time for that. please line up.
We want to give our Christian Brothers the first opportunity. We are not discriminating against people, but we owe it we owe more, I owe more to my Christian brothers who want to know things and for the Muslim, I'm always with you. And you always have the album's with you. Right. So, if you are a Muslim, give the Christian brother a chance first give them a first opportunity first the Christian Christian
give the Christians a chance first
any Christians here
any Christian here? No, okay, get started.
So, this is a question from
so many of your thoughts
and to share with my Christian friends, right.
We say the books are so much convincing.
problem is that
is used to
what is to propagate is to spread you see you propagate vegetables, fruits, by crossing, you know, by cutting slips, and all that you propagate. You propagate your family by getting married and getting children, you propagate, not propaganda. You propagate in your species, you know, with your life, children, God said Be fruitful and multiply in the Bible. So when you go and get married and bigger children, you propagating the human species, you propagate plants, plants, you know, by grafting graph to the graph plants, the graph plants, you know, to show that the thing grows faster mango trees, it takes seven years but a grafted tree six months or a year starts bearing fruit
that's called grafting. You propagate the plant life, you propagate an idea?
Means you spread the idea that guys finding this some silly funny idea that, you know, propagate means propaganda, but every person who opens his mouth, the Christian, what is he doing? in the street corners? He's stopping. You want to sell your magazine Watchtower away? What is he doing? What is he doing? The seventh day? Adventists the Roman Catholics that are Tomasello? What was he saying? He's trying to propagate his idea? No, there's nothing wrong. You have arrived, the Christian has a right to propagate. We also have a right to propagate to spread the message.
I posted a question on the Gospels, like
is a Muslim until you believe that the gospel is the one.
to never be, I mean, no one will ever change
it for your
our gospel, which has already been because the Bible is not the real
thing Why? Why was the gospel not promised?
Because the gospel was not the last book.
The Quran is the last testament.
See the Christians and the Jews. The Jews have the Bible called the Old Testament. The Christian got the old and the new put together the called the Holy Bible, but it doesn't claim
He doesn't Jesus Christ, he says, I have yet many things to say unto you.
But you cannot be with them now.
I have yet many things to say unto you, but he you can't bear it now how we, when He, the Spirit of Truth is come, He will guide you into all truth, not in
the spirit of truth, He will guide you into all truth, for he shall not speak from himself. But what shall hear that shall he speak and you shall declare unto you the things that are to come, he shall glorify Me, who Jesus is somebody else coming, he said, Who's going to glorify Jesus, who's going to testify is going to guide you into all truth. And he says, nevertheless, I tell you the truth, john, Chapter 16, verse seven, nevertheless, I tell you the truth, it is expedient for you, it is better for you that I go away, for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you. But if I go, I will send him
somebody other than Jesus is that he says, Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly iray. When he moves, he says, By the fruits, you shall know them to know that there are no profits to come after him is, look, there's no progress after me. And the last and final messenger, anybody else comes up to me is a liar and a cheat. He didn't say that. You must be on guard against the false ones, that mean there is a false and then the true one. How do we know the true from the false he said, by the fruits, you shall know them, the fruits of the prophet of God, Islam. If it did nothing, it created the biggest Society of teetotallers in the world. 1000
million people as a whole, they don't imbibe alcohol, as a people as a whole, we have trinkets, and we have adult gamblers, we have many Muslims, again,
not a Christian down on the table, in drinking, right. But as a people as a whole, the Muslim is the biggest Society of peoples in the world, if Muhammad did nothing but this, you can pay him enough, you can praise him enough. So Jesus Christ didn't close the book, this is somebody coming after me. And he will get into also let me say that perfect is Mohammed Salah
when some of the
devices that are mentioned,
was one, two,
Jesus is my son, my
the Son, and also
right, you learn to speak this simple, simple language.
You see, going and getting embroiled in this verse, and that was and that was, you can achieve anything. Simple question, you ask the Christian. You say Jesus is God? You said yes.
Is there a single place in your Bible? In any version of the Bible? Look at me, look at me.
In any version of your Christian Bible, with Jesus, not normal, normal, normal, normal, normal finish, normal life, please.
Anywhere in the Bible where Jesus says, I am God,
where he says, worship me. Is there a single statement in any Bible on earth? Any version with Jesus says, I am God. He says worship is there.
There isn't. So all this talk about pulling here and pushing there. And you know, he said, Did he say and God?
You people go out tomorrow morning and say, you know, Mr. De that is the new president of Kenya.
So somebody will ask you Did Mr. D that claim that he says no, in what they do with you,
and don't waste time? If Dirac said he is the president, then we'll want to know how, what makes him then you have a right pass. First thing is I have to make the claim. And the Pope of the Muslims. Did I claim that? No, you have no right. You have no right to say Mr. de da is the Pope of the Muslims. You have no right I must make the
claim, and then you have a right to examine my claim, right? Same thing, Jesus.
You're reading, I'm talking to you and you're reading my son, I don't know how can you do to
see, when somebody is talking to you must look at the person that's under you. You owe the person you asked him a question is asked. So there is no such thing. On the contrary, Jesus says, I can have my own to do nothing. I can have my own self do nothing. Can God do everything? Anything? Yes. What did Jesus say? He can do? Nothing. Should have that day No, what? No man? No, not the angels, not the son, but the Father in heaven. So in his knowledge is not like God, in His power is not like God says, All power is given unto me. It's not mine. Where does he say I'm God? Where does it say worship Me? That's what asked the question. Where does your Jesus say I am God? Read as you say,
worship, show me, then we will discuss. Okay, next question.
with that Christian, asked him to show me that Jesus claims to be caught.
Let him come along and find it for me. Here's the Bible, john 10, Chapter.
It says, the john 1030. He said, I am my father. What
does that mean? He said, I'm God.
You said, the guy says that Jesus is God. He said, I am the father of one.
That's john 1030.
So does that mean his God?
Really is that Christian? Let him come along and say, Look, this is what Jesus says, then we will discuss is that does that mean he's God?
Me and my wife, we are one. Adam and Eve in the garden. They were one.
We are one flesh.
The Bible says they will. One flesh is just like a sausage with a sausage.
But it's a one flesh.
What it means is that if Adam say let's eat the greatest right?
He said, let's go and Adam says right? In other words, whatever one wants to do the other ones to do the one. But Adam is Adam and Eve is Eve. Adam is men and he is woman. niacin, one in what we what you want to do. Everybody's one in wanting to listen silently. No, no disturbance, no noise. Everybody's united in that. Everybody's united. You don't want people to make nice while I'm talking to you.
So you're one. But when you take each other's wives, to each other's property, what in what in what you want to do? When in what? I'm a father, I want
to empower, Majesty, knowledge, what?
Understand understanding. So let the Christian come forward. If he's here, and see now we can ask him, I'll ask him a few questions. Okay.
How do I get
now you must show me the application. See, if you are the one who say the Quran is abrogated. What verse is abrogated, meaning it has done away with abrogated means is done away with which one in the Quran. If you have knowledge, you chose a look. This verse was in the Quran, and now he's taken out this abrogation code this was you were allowed
to drink alcohol. And then the Quran now says you can't drink alcohol. Buddha says that in the Quran, if there is such a thing, that one place it tells you you can drink alcohol and other places you can drink alcohol, then one of them is contradicting the other one is abrogating the other. Is there any such a verse in the Quran?
Is there any sense
verse in the Quran.
Is there any such teaching the Quran that you were told only the pig? And
the pig? Is there any such thing in the Quran? One minister don't gamble, another person that you can gamble. Is there any such thing in the Quran that's abrogation?
Show me if you know anything? Or if there's anybody else, you know, who's your master teacher here?
Or in college?
Where is the question?
Where is the question?
Where is he?
Why Why does it make you into a scapegoat? You know, to come forward and make a fool of yourself on his behalf.
Therefore, now you're making a fool of yourself. I'll say, now you shouldn't be my son can look this versus abrogated, then I can answer you.
You just making statements. Right?
Yeah. But now the guy who's got that thing, that sickness, he must come forward. Then I can ask him. What are you referring to my son? I'm asking, you know what I say? You don't know. That guy's at home.
is hiding behind his wife's skirt. What is he doing?
Right. Next one?
is a very simple question. What's your name? Sir? My name
How do we
in every Majid is a leader.
He's supposed to know
his facts. See, Mom, mom in Arabic means a leader.
So what is your problem? You go to a leader and find out, speak to the man asking for the solution to your problem. And inshallah we'll give it to you. Maybe it doesn't go down well, so you have your already you have your answer. You want to get a certain fixed answer.
The men luckier here have just come here, man comes to me. He says Now can we build a house on top of a Masjid on top of a mosque is asking me.
So I said, Look, did you ask your mom?
God? Did you know The man who's knowledgeable in your community? He said, Yes. So what does he say? He said, No, you can't.
So now Why are you asking me?
He wants to hear from me to say, Yes, you can. So you can make mischief.
I go to Canada, and everybody's asking me about interest. The Muslims in South Africa, a lot of them are migrated and they have the money in building societies for when they get interest. They want to know about interest. So I say you know what that means for me.
So what do we do with this money? Or our money has to give it to me.
So what are you gonna do? I'm gonna dig bore holes for the Africans in the hinterland to do interesting. With that [???] money of yours. We're going to dig bore holes for people helping people.
analysis that's allowed. Don't you don't need it? I don't need it. I'm going to use it for somebody's benefit.
Give me the money. Nobody gives me the money.
What is that guy? One thing is for me to say is halaal. He's been asking everybody, everybody says haram haram Haram. Now he wants to say no man, you can eat it. So now his conscience is. So this is you are not looking for a leader. If you take me for the leader,
listen your heart and mind if I look What uncle D that says must be hard, then you ask me a question, then I do the answer. You are doubly bound to follow that.
You want an answer that suits you.
And that guy is not giving it to you. So you go to the next lecture.
And he's giving an answer that doesn't suit you. So you go to the next guy. What are you looking for? You are a devil. This is DeVonish.
If you go to a man with a confidence that he is knowledgeable fellow, and he's got no ulterior motive in giving you the answer, whatever answer he gives you, your bunk finish.
But no, you don't want that. When I see you. I'm not talking about you. And generally everybody's doing that. He's asking different different guys to get contradictory answers. And in that you get something that suits him. Therefore we have new leaders. Say you need a guy with the power
of the sword like
that. When you meet a gentleman you don't actually
The top of your head
that kind of leaders we haven't got
going on over here
is a monster.
So many sisters are grieving the loss of capital.
you say I gave you just now, but allies crying in the camera
is crying the camera? These guys are swearing me the worst swearing you can give a like this.
What do you do about it?
When I see you, I mean the whole Muslims, nothing.
And if Allah says this you have as you say you love me. You prepare to die for me. You prepared to do anything for me. And now they're swearing me and you laugh is a joke. Don't you deserve everything that's coming to you.
We ruled India for 1000 years.
After 1000 years in partition takes place the Muslim gets one quarter the Hindu gets three quarter Why you didn't do the job. We would speak for 800 years.
After 800 years of Muslim rule and we are kicked out there was not one man left in that country to do the Asana.
What a failure. You didn't do the job you enjoyed the Spanish woman.
So this is the law of God. When Tata well yesterday.
If you do not carry out your duties and responsibilities, which are lies imposed on you for being the best of people, he said yesterday,
he will substitute in your place and other people from Malaysia kumaun Salah, they won't be like you rubbish. That's what Allah says, This is low, you don't do the job as I get out of the way, man, you are rubbish, you occupying valuable space. You holding up the works, get lost. That's what he's telling you. In Spain after 800 years, the Christians in South Africa in 300 years the Christian as a whole bloody country.
At the beginning of the century, Africa was 3%, Christian,
at the beginning of 1900 3%, Christian to the 40%. And by the turn of the century, they want to make Africa a Christian continent, and every sense that they they will succeed because we are prepared to do nothing
about Kashmir, about Palestine. We have a problem here ourselves, what are you doing here?
Your boss, my boss is here.
Our boss is here. My boss is in South Africa. I'm telling you, but nobody cares. Nobody wants to do anything. You don't want to share your deen with Africans. I'm talking about my own country.
See, everybody's saying the good guy is not perfect.
He's not perfect.
So when will you be perfect. Come on, come on, give me a time limit, five years time, 10 years, 1015 years, then give me a time limit that in 15 years time, you will become immaculate, good Muslims, all angels walking this earth, then you're going to talk give me a time limit, no time limit. So it's an excuse for not doing the job. We have to pull over on Sox's and said, Let's work our own environment, that our Boston it doesn't happen here. My boss now doesn't happen in South Africa. In the meantime, we pray for our brothers, that's all I can do is to pray for them. Well as you know, help them to solve the problem. But we have a problem brewing here. And in South Africa and all over
the world, in Nigeria, in Ghana, it's all over the world, in the Sudan. Every day there's a problem because we are not doing our job.
Allah says that among the Jews and the Christians, men who will move in wanna, there are good people.
But the majority of them have over two transgressors. That's what Allah says. So you do find good people among them. And the good man will get his reward
depending upon his opportunity. Did you deliver the message to him? Even the good guy? Did you talk to him? No. You told him nothing about Islam.
Many people when you talk about Islam, they don't know what Islam is.
I haven't been in my own country. Going to joku tea people.
It says I want to see the manager
what what company you come from some telling the receptionist, Islamic Propagation center so as Islamic Propagation center so what that is I know I
didn't tell them what it
is. They don't know. They think we worshipping statues in the masjid Do you know that people want to come and visit the mosque?
When they come at the back of the mind you are worshipping men, Gods women, Gods monkey Gods elephant Gods make Gods within the look at you will get Hindi Indian, you look like an Indian
like Indians. And that because the majority of the Indians in South Africa Hindus measure Indians in India, Hindus, they think every Indian is a Hindu, worshipping the cow worshiping the monkey shaping the snake. That's what they think it's an opportunity for you to disabuse their minds to educate them that what we are what we believe. But you say no.
You are unclean.
I want to be a creme de la sala. He invited the the Christians of Nigeria
to come and stay in his Masjid must be the NaVi. They slept in the mosque. They act in the mosque, and they had a dialogue for three days and three nights in the masjid. And when Sunday came, we offered them the masjid to offer the prayers, Christian prayers in the masjid.
avi that tolerant. Now you want to keep them at arm's length. And they are suspicious of you. There's something wrong with you guys. The terrorists, the fundamentalists.
We are bad at Buddhism for Islam.
Every Muslim, you should believe in the fundamentals of your faith. You are a fundamentalist you believe.
You believe in the Shahada. That's the fundamental of Islam. You're a fundamentalist.
You believe that? Alcohol is haram?
You're a fundamentalist.
So, no, they are using this word amusingly, that as soon as you stand up for your faith, they label you terrorists fundamentalist that you start, you know says no, no, don't pop, because otherwise, that guy's gonna label you. The Irish people.
They are fighting the British, the Irish. The Irish are Christians. The British are Christians, the Irish Catholics. The fighting the Protestants are the Irish fundamentalists.
They'll never use that word. The Jews are the fundamentalist. Yes, everyone who holds on to some fundamentals of history. These are fundamentalist, but this word is especially reserved for us to beat you with as soon as you open them as a fundamentalist. Now you'll be banned from coming to Kenya anymore since the late 80s a fundamentalist
like my son, last question.
when they go to
wear the shoes on.
what he says
in the Bible.
How did he Silas Allen pray, he paid like the Jews.
He paid like all the ordinary Jews. He was a Jew, born Jew, his mother was a Jew, Jew as he and he was brought up as a Jewish child. So if he prayed, he paid like the Jews, if he faster deposit like the Jews, naturally, naturally.
And we have some examples in the Christian Bible, that was his last days and Jesus Christ even to the garden of gets him and he with his disciples, and he said, we can watch
meaning keep God keep God
in he went a little further and fell on his face and pray to God.
So I'm asking the question, how does a man fall on his face in play?
Except the way Muslims do sujood falling on the man's face is through Jews making the sistah He means the sees that and he prayed to God is the goal my father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me remove remove the difficulty from me, but not as I will. But as Howard has a good Muslim he submitted his will to the will of Allah. So this is what he did. And musala salam and how to listen and they fell on the faces and pray. And Abraham fell on his face and pray and Joshua fell on his face and pray. This is how they prayed up to the to the center of the Christian era.
That is his his trial and tribulation in the garden of gets him in a garden of gets him in in the Gospel of St. John's in Luke, you read that towards the end of chapter 19 or 24 at the end, that he when he went to the Garden of Gethsemane with his disciples, and he said, Wait and watch and he went a little further and fell on his face, asked the Christian, how does a man fall on his face and pray? Except the baby Muslim still?
There are two questions that has a list of typewritten
This is not called really a question. You see, no, that means you've come from home with the things are typed out, Mashallah.
It says you're not on comparative religion, not on comparative religion even fatwas fatwas, for me, you know, the Muslim aside, for that, my dear sisters, you have to go to your album.
And if they don't know your answers to your problems, then replace them get some new albums.
Your Muslim asylum while you cut the throat of the chicken while you do, go and ask your albums and if they can't supply the answer, replace them.
comparative religion is my field. You asked me something if I don't know inshallah, I'll try and find out for you.
There are two questions here. It says here, when you ask a Christian about
response. And the chapters which have been thrown out the verses,
they say the same can be applied to the Islam is you have different sex, but it is the basis foundation of the religion. That is important. What would you say? reply?
This is a lady's question. She's already given the reply here, you see that this is
with regards to the Quran. As far as my knowledge goes, there is only one Quran in the world. You go to China, same Quran, the Quran and talking about translations, there will be variations in the choice of language between one translator and another. But basically the Arabic Quran, you go to Indonesia, same Nigeria, same to Turkey, same wherever you go on Earth. There's only one Quran that I know. And this is that Arabic Quran, left by our NBA teams and allows
the Bible day by day every day, a new version is coming out every day. I don't want to start giving them to you. Only yesterday, I bought a New Revised Version of the Bible. And what what they have done one place, the Bible says that God Almighty killed 50,070 persons for looking into a box.
The Ark, the ark box, got one done, look into the box, I'll kill you.
And he allowed 50,070 people to look into the box.
How do you look into a box?
You've got to single file, you have to follow in a line being respected the Queen of England which is dead. One by one you go along pay respects to Mandela. You pay respects to Honey, you pay respects, one by one. Can you imagine somebody lying in stage here, and all of you are to see that person's face? How long will it take single file just up here?
And 70 God Almighty is waiting. He allows 50,070 to go through and then he kills them all. Can you imagine? If I told you look, I'm a tyrant, a bully. I have a box. There's a look. Anybody look into that box and kill him?
very unreasonable, but that's me. I said I'll kill anybody will look into that box. The first guy who's passing he looks into the box today.
Because so please forgive me.
But if still I'm a scientist, and I get pleasure in killing people, I kill that one man and I save 50,070 by killing one man. God Almighty doesn't do that. The loving Father in heaven He allows 50,070 to pass that box. In single file take weeks weeks for the 50,000 to pass. He allows them all and accused them all 50,017
merciful God. If you kill the first guy, he stopped the first one he would say 50,069.
So now the latest Bible we bought from him from Mombasa. It says Revised Standard Version. That was the 50,000. They took out in the good only 70 cut only to 70 and the 50,000 put in a margin at the bottom at the bottom. In small writing. It says in the Hebrew it says 50,070
But now in English for you fools, he made 70. Because you can't swallow the 50,000. You can swallow 70 by the minute by the minute they're changing, what can you do? This is I only discovered because I was teaching them and I looked up here, this has come to 70 7070 What happened? Every Bible I've seen in my life over 50,070. So they put at the bottom. This is in small pipes, well, that in Hebrew Bible, it is 50,070.
This is the last question here, is it?
I believe the spiritual life is like a race. Each person has a lane lane to God. Each region has a lane to God, what the Muslim regions region leading and Christian leaders are doing is to cross and cripple each other. And so the followers for today what men needs is peace. Christians don't have it. Muslims don't have it. What men need is health.
Mankind does not have it. Can the religious leaders change the approach? I treat people as a doctor, and I'm able to be blessed from Muslims and Christians, Hindus, etc. Dr. Ma?
Everyone says un peace. How do you get peace?
Is the question.
The Muslim says you get peace by submitting to the will have
you submit to His will. He says don't drink alcohol.
He says I'm here and I obey. Don't gamble.
The coaches will do charity. Be regular in your Salah gives aka whatever Allah tells you to do. You do there is peace, peace between you and God in peace between men and men. Everybody's talking about peace. Everybody talks about brotherhood, but a system is required. You need a system everybody talks. The Hindu says there is one call.
The Christians say there is one call. The Muslim says there is one call. Am I right? Everybody says this God Islam. Nobody says there's two gods or three gods.
But now in the concept
in the concept that.
He says the Christian said there's one God but as you say, the father is God the Son is God and the Holy Ghost is God.
Your formula your Trinity, Father is God son is God and the Holy Ghost is God but they're not three Gods with one God, am I right? He said yes. But you said there's only one God the Father is God the Son is God in the Holy Ghost is God. But there are not three Gods but one god so What language are you talking?
Is that English? Sounds it sounds like English is nothing she's gibberish rubbish nonsense. How can be father as a person as a person? The Holy Ghost is a person but they're not 3% but one person? What language is that? I'm asking the English man What language are you talking person Person person but not 3% but one person. Now I have a right to correct a
person Person person but not 3% that one person. So What language are you talking? If you and your two other brothers are identical triplets. We can make up the difference between the three of you. If one of you commit murder, can we hang the other? He says no. So why not your look alike? Is no he's a different person
or a different person yet different you cannot be the same. But now the Quran tells us to tell them Vallarta kulu salasar don't say Trinity interview hi welcome this is puppet it'll be better for you in the middle of Allah wa. For your Allah is one Allah is not three one. So I have to tell him that. If he's offended, I can be held. He the Christian in turn he wants to save me from hellfire. He said all your Salat and Zakat and hygiene song are like up rags. The Christian says salvation only comes with the blood of the Lord Jesus. He says so I have to ask you
unless telling me to ask him so cool how to
produce your proof. So when you produce the proof in his Bible, so I saw that let me see what it says. I said you know Jesus when he returned to the upper room after his alleged crucifixion, he goes inside and he visits his disciples Shalimar home in Hebrew peace be unto you and his disciples were terrified. Why were they terrified? I'm asking the question. Why were they terrified? Is no they're thinking the senior ghost as it did look like a ghost. This is no there. So why should the thing the man is a ghost when they didn't look like one.
When Jesus Christ is trying to assure them that is not what they're thinking. They think he's come back from the dead. So he says pasa many mikono Jambo namiki yanbu says Behold my hands and my feet. As I mean him econo Yang namiki
Now what anemia that is I myself
wanted to handle and see, for a spirit has no flesh and bones, as you see me have not that guy I'm talking to him in his language from his own Bible to say he is not what you're thinking, the man is telling you handle me and see I'm not a ghost. I'm not.
I'm not a spirit. And they felt him. The Bible says they felt him and they believe not for joy. They were overjoyed and wonder what happened, man, we thought the man was dead and buried. So he said, have you here any meat Nakula chop the hopper. And they gave him a piece of bread, fish and honeycomb, any toolkit any act? In the very center for what there is a cost is a spook, use a spirit.
Force, what are you afraid of before? Now I have to disabuse his mind. The guy is not happy, he wants peace, but he will peace at my price. He wanted me to become a Christian. He wanted to steal my children. That's how he wants peace. The Hindu says there's one God, there's only one God. My Hindu brothers, and my forefathers were Hindus. for 5000 years. This is only one God. So I'm asking my Hindu cousins is Rama. He says God, who is Krishna? He says, God who is Buddha, he says, God who's Halima? He says, God who's Ganesh? He says, God, we see that he says, God has to look, man, you told me there's only one God.
He said, Yes. But you gave me men, Gods women, gods, an animal Gods
doesn't know. So I have to talk to him. I have to disabuse his mind. I want him to have peace with me. You see, so now the thing is, everybody wants peace. But everybody says on his terms, the Hindu says on his terms, the Jews is on his terms, the Christians they understand, and the Muslim says the same. So we said, Now let us come. Let's reason together and see now we're a common denominator can be established between us that we can have this worship fellowship of faith in the worship of the one true God.
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Before I finish, I would like to tell the ladies who have given quite a lot of questions here. But most of these questions
most of these questions on Fifth he and on some,
they are not on comparative religion, Chef Ahmed deedat, and his assistant say shift the that answers questions on comparative religion, not on 50 and other things and other areas. For those, they say, please conduct your Aldama.
Coming back to shift the dots I think, I'm sure you will agree with me. We have all of course, we've all enjoyed the talk. And I'm sure we have benefited a lot and Chef the that
inshallah God will give him long life, long, prosperous life. But I think he will be very happy here and hereafter to see that amongst you, several D that come up.
we pray that he leaves very long, but being a human being one day, he will have to leave us. And he will be very happy and very satisfied to see that many of you, especially the young ones, become land men, and go all over the land.
This does not come as he told us the way
he started. He started by reading books, or books, or magazines and so on and so forth. So his emphasis is on reading.
I think we cannot say more than what was boring to say. And you own form your opinion about your feedback. And as I've said, we pray for God to give him the rest of his life to be as useful as it has been all for.
Now, we would like to thank all of us on your behalf. I would like to thank the young Muslim Association for arranging this gathering will also like to thank the Saudi Muslim plan to provide the venue and also to thank the group which is known as ccpc. Don't think this is a Soviet Union. No. This one
is known as a group of young people known as citizen, a citizen, Crime Prevention committee. This is a group of young people who help the police to see that the area where they are living, there is no crime. And these are the people who have done the preparation,
arranging, arranging seating arrangement, and so please, we all should join hands to play with these young ones, to Keep up the spirit and to become
I think everything that has a beginning has to have an end. And I think we say say thank you very much. And
thank you, you and your team for making the journey all the way from South Africa to come to us to join hands with us. And I'm sure the people you had lessons with on Tuesday and today, the young ones I'm sure they will take your lessons very seriously. And inshallah Donna, God will bring up more deedat Shall
we? I'm asked to finish with the dua and Imam here will come say that one.
I mean, I mean,