Channel: Ahmed Deedat
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Honorable speaker has lectured throughout the world for the last 40 years. And is has always defended very
complicated issues you see with the
people of other religions. And now without
going any further, I'll ask the latter speaker
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as announced by the chairman is Jesus and
may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon them upon all his messengers
a comparative study
of these two mighty messengers of God,
see in our own language, if we use these names, Jesus has an ISA alayhis salam,
we would never say
as Muslims, in our, in our message in our private halls, Christian halls, if they came to talk to us lecture class and say Isa,
for Jesus will kick him out.
But you see, you say the Western nations they call Jesus Jesus
because they did his part. Therefore, there is no Mr. Reverend, you don't call him Bishop, you don't call him.
You don't call a profit, don't call a messenger. They just say Jesus, so I can't help it. Because of that as a Jesus and Muhammad is, God be upon them. But
we do we begin the name itself Jesus.
Guy, trying to hypnotize us a mesmerizes. So you will have to be with me might be a Muslim brother.
This is how the Westerner understands Jesus.
See, the debate that took place on Sunday between myself and an American, Palestinian Christian from America. Dr. shows.
One of the objections he had was
that in the Quran, the name for Jesus is Isa
and he said that his that was not his name.
In his native language,
in the native language of Jesus, his name was he saw
that's a common name among the Jews, he saw
the classical for Esau is the issue.
So this is not in the Quran is called Isa.
This is objection, you should have been Esau in the Quran, not Isa.
As an Arab you know, that Arabic and Hebrew assisted languages they are almost identical.
And the name he saw an ISA similar
language is identical.
We say salam in Arabic.
We say Yama Juma means a day on Friday, they have given this Yo
yo yo, similar, almost identical. So Isa is a variation in the Arabic for example issue.
But now we have a chance of asking them the questions related to Jesus.
Look, Esau in Jesus that pulls apart, he saw an ISA
Isa, but when you get Jesus
anything you say they can't see Jesus Christ. He said
He said judge not that ye be not judged. For with what judgment
and with what measure.
Wise he has the most elaborate as I NC has not been done on
Jesus's day out of your own eye first before you try to take the load off of your brother side, the splinter you're going to be who I am, you can see that I'm using a little splinter in your brother's eye.
Jesus said this is the home of a Hebrew word. So Latinas
subject people all subject.
They suffer from an inferiority complex.
They would like to make the name sound like those of the ruling race.
We might also suffer from such sicknesses. My son's name is use of
so people call him Joseph, or call him Joe is not so the name is Abraham would like to make it sound like that of the Englishman rules.
Man, the early Christians had the same sickness. They wanted their names to sound like that other Romans, not like those of the Jews, Esau sounds Jewish. They didn't want God's name to sound like a Jew. So they recognize it by adding j with there was no j, the energy Jesus. And they have a sickness for adding JS without you. So this is Joseph Jaco Zaku
Are you as a job at
every level is the key to make it sound like that of the ruling masters, the Greeks and the Romans.
inferiority complex. So Jesus is not his name his mother, when he was born, never called him Jesus. She must have called him Esau or Yeshua, not Jesus.
besides the point his birth,
according to the teachings of Islam,
via Kareem sallallahu Sallam He made us to accept the Jesus Christ. Christ again, is another word, which they have translated from mercy, mercy, Messiah to Christ.
Sounds like Greek, Roman, Saul, Saul, one of the self appointed disciples of Jesus, they call him Paul, Paul, say, Saul sounds Jew Jew. So they make it Paul, Paul. Peter, Peter. Peter was not the name of Peter. Nobody ever called him Peter in his life. You know, St. Peter's in Rome.
St. Paul. Paul was not Paul it was St. Paul. St. Peter was St. Simon.
His title was he fuss Jesus said, You are the first. Kiefer's means you are a hawk. You are a hard hard fighting follow hard hearted follow your key fuss. Kiefer's in Hebrew means Raka stone, so they translated that into geek pet Ross. And from Petrus they've got the word Peter, sounds Greek or Roman Peter. But you say Simon Keefe was sounds Jew. They didn't want the heroes to sound Jews. So they changed the names.
We in Islam are made to believe through the lives of the Holy Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu Sallam that has an ISA Salam Jesus Christ was one of the mightiest messengers of God. We believe in his miraculous birth, that without any male intervention he was born. We believe in his many miracles including those of giving life to the dead by God's permission and of healing those born blind and the lepers by God's permission, we believe.
But we are in conflict with regards to his birthday.
I was Christian with a we call Merry Christmas.
I said look, we enjoy Christmas holidays.
Christmas holidays we enjoy but we don't come with Christmas.
If we only knew the date of his birth, we would also celebrate his birthday. Like you said, Mila gonna be will have mila dimasi will have the birthday of Jesus. But when was he born?
The xs 25th of December.
Christmas Day 25th of December. But he was not more on the 25th of December. Today the Christians have come to realize the learned men have Christian them that he was not born on the 25th of December.
This still the sister of December is that they these that they have the birth of the pagans, some Gods love the Son of God, Son of God.
inverted commas not the Son of God, but the sun god.
What it means you see up here, this is the northern hemisphere, I come from the south, this is another hemisphere. And as winter approaches December, it gets colder and colder here for you people
have and as December 20, when the first 22nd 23rd, the primitive man he could sense day by day, they can see the sun in the distance far away is going east to further and further away, and it's getting colder. So they personify that, that the devil is eating of the sun, they start beating dunes, and we start offering prayers, that the sun may not be sold out, because you will get swallowed up, we'll be finished
24th of December,
equinox, and how you see the 25th those primitive people in the Northern Hemisphere, they could sense the variation in temperature day by day 25th, they can see the sun coming back into its own. In other words, the sun has not come out Supreme, it has not been a devil didn't follow up, the sun is coming back. So that is the date of the birth of the Sun God, Son God, the sun has come back into its own those days celebrated Christmas,
birth of Jesus Christ, the birth of the sun god ba Horus, Apollo.
All these with the sun, Gods worship in the Mediterranean region, and their birthday was the 25th of December.
So when the the people became christianized, and the Constantine they accepted that birthday of the sun, as the birth of that son of God, in inverted commas.
So it is not the birthday of Jesus. The Quran tells us very very clearly
that when Jesus was born, his mother Mary was told, he says shake the palm leaf, the leaf of the palm leaf, the pump, and it lead for fresh, right, this is a big three right, ready to shake it and the pain will fall and you can eat and refresh yourself with a small river running by refresh yourself after the birth of the child. He stole that so it was mid summer
is the Quran says
that the dates were right, it means mid summer not midwinter. Palestine is in the Northern Hemisphere. Your winter in the winter is the same. So you don't have winter in mid summer days in midsummer. It was midsummer. Then the Bible also says that when Jesus was born,
the shepherds were out in the field.
Now the shepherd is a fool. If he with the sheep stays out in the open in Palestine in midwinter, he will freeze to death and his his his shipping freeze to death.
So if you read the Quran, and the Bible, they both confirm that Jesus was not born on the 25th of December in midwinter, but now because of that, men of learning in the West, they are Now supposing that this Jesus was a myth is a fairy tale. Because it's connected to all these fairy tales. Jesus was no myth. He was a real historical person. According to the teachings of Islam, we have no doubt about it. That some 2000 years ago, there was a young lady called Miriam Mary, and she gave birth to a child for Isa or Esau
and he was born miraculously.
But the idea is because of this association with the pagan cults, the sun worshipping cults.
Now when we look at
Muhammad was born some 600 years after Jesus in Mecca.
Before his birth, his father died.
He was a posthumous child is a child that is born after the death of his father.
And Muhammad Sallallahu Sallam happens to be the most historical of all religious personality. According to Encyclopedia Britannica, no doubt whatsoever about him, that Muhammad could be a fairytale, most historical, solid down to earth figure. History starts with him. The change of the Arab nation starts with him. The whole Arab world can becomes known to the world for the first time in the history since the creation of the world
since the creation of the world,
they added rare and unknown people. Nobody was interested in that human rubbish nobody else
Under the great pass them by the physicians with the devotions, pass them by the Egyptians pass them by, nobody was interested in that human rubbish.
Nobody. It was after Muhammad, that all of a sudden they become known and they become masters of the world through the blessings of Islam. Before that, Muhammad is the most historical of all religious personalities.
The mission of these two respective messengers of God, Jesus Christ, according to the Scriptures, opened his mouth at the age of 30.
And by the time it was 33, three years time, they say that the Jews hang them on the cos, did away with him as a false prophet as an imposter, as a liar as a cheat.
They hung him on the cross three years, the prophet of Islam, opens his mouth, at the behest of God at the age of 40. And for the next 23 years of his life, he reformed his people 23 is his mission is 23 years, Jesus was three years
and the records left behind.
Through the lips of the Holy Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu Sallam Allah tala gave this book, Muhammad left this record behind the Holy Quran.
A complete record everything that the Muslim ought to know. his duties and obligations are all given in this book. You don't have to fumble for knowledge for directions, it's all given to us.
In the case of Jesus, Jesus himself, he did not write a word in his lifetime, not one word.
in his lifetime, nod is inducted into anyone to write a word. And nor was a word written, not a not one.
What we have today is a record
long after him, written down by persons called Matthew, Mark, Luke, john, Peter, James, Paul and on and on.
And that record, is a record about Jesus is not his record. He's not what he said, this book, this is the Holy Bible, in this Holy Bible is called the Oh, there is an Old Testament in the New Testament, the New Testament is supposed to be according to the Christian missionaries. That is the key. You know, we Muslims, we say we believe in the in G. Of course, we believe in the Torah, we believe in the Bible, we believe in all the Holy Scriptures, originally revealed by God Almighty, among them meaning in G. So they say this New Testament is the key.
But let us see what they the Christians themselves, they say, here is a Bible.
Very beautiful Bible, very expensive Bible, this particular one here, this was presented to me by Dr. Suresh, if you see the tape of the debate with him in the Royal Albert Hall, we'll find him you know, with, he starts with his Arabic introduction, beautiful introduction, Arabic is his mother tongue. And he says, You see, we Arabs, when we go to meet a friend, we don't go empty handed.
We must present them with something. And this was in a green parcel. He handed it to me, I didn't know what it was, but I took it. But I found this very, very helpful, very valuable, invaluable.
Say, this Bible here is unique from many points of view in this, that this particular Bible is called
a red letter Bible.
I don't know whether you heard how many of you heard about a red letter Bible.
Hardly anybody to read the Bible. You know, what is the read of the Bible, I have to explain to you the
red letter Bible.
You see, everything that Jesus spoke is in red,
for makes it very easy for you to know which are the words of Jesus. Because in the New Testament, there are 27 books. In the seven books put together, make the New Testament, the so called eg The so called in G of the Christians.
But these 27 books, how are you going to find out sift out what Jesus said and what he didn't say what Jesus said, You got time for that? Who's got time for that in modern times.
So the Christians have made things easy for us. They now they put everything every word of Jesus is in red, the rest is in black. So it's two color job black and red, black and red.
It also makes it easy for us now to find out to what extent is the New Testament the words of Jesus, so it's only about 10% 90% has not got nothing to do with Jesus 90% not even out of the 27 books in this particular one. This particular
Bible is the King James Version. And they tell you in the preface, this is the fifth major revision.
You know, it's a major in a minor, small major
review children, they can testify in court because they are minors.
So this is the fifth major revision of the King James Version, King James, one of your kings here in 16 111. He had this Bible produced, it carries his name still today. But this particular one, by now, five times they make changes, big changes, not by anything, Major. That's what the Englishman knows what he's talking about. When he says major, he means major.
After five major revisions, they still call it King James Version.
is your great, great, great grandfather, he made his last will and testament.
And your great, great grandfather, he made a major change in that way. Then your great grandfather did another major change. And your grandfather made another major change. And your father made another major change. And you made another major change. And you still call it your great, great, great grandfather's will.
King James knows what's going on his name COVID. Christine is great.
And this is supposed to be the Word of God, five major changes. And when I start giving you the changes that they have made, is chalk and cheese, you know, falls apart, things are taken out and thrown away without explaining why
if you like it, to keep it, if they wanted to change it, and that they don't like to throw it out.
And this is still for King James Version.
So this is what Jesus loved what he really out of the 27 books 21 out of 27 in this particular Bible
21 out of 27 you work it out at home, what percentage that is 21 out of 27 hasn't got a red.or a dash or a doodle.
That is not even Jesus is quoted. They haven't even quoted him in 21 books out of 27. Not even one word, not even by mistake and a dash already has gone on to onto the page. And in the Living Bible with the missionaries, US Living Bible, also another red letter Bible, you can buy that Living Bible they call it the living
of life. In that 123 out of 27 no red.or dash audio.
That means Jesus never even uttered any of the words everything's a black, black, black.
This is what Jesus is supposed to have left.
These are things written about him. He didn't write a word and not a word was written in his lifetime.
The mission of these two respective prophets,
Jesus and Muhammad, their mission.
Jesus Christ, he says is only for the Jews. That's what he says.
In the Gospel of St. Matthew, chapter 15, was 24. You read there, that a Greek woman comes to him with a problem her daughter is seriously ill. And she comes to know that this mighty messenger of God has got some mysterious powers, miraculous powers. So she comes to Jesus wanting her daughter to be healed.
Jesus turns his face away.
So the disciples say
this woman is persistent drowning woman clutching at straws drowning man does the same value human
life is at stake, you know, you, master please help my child. So he tells her, and through her is telling the whole world.
He says, I am not sent but unto the Lordship of the house of Israel,
of the bunnies like the lost sheep
of the Jews only unsane for them. And when the disciples persist, he says do not throw the bread of the children to the dogs.
Who are the dogs? Another place Jesus says do not throw that with his dogs do not throw pearls before swine. Me Jews would throw pearls before these pigs, pigs. They're talking about human beings.
To this to him and his people, the Jews the rest of the world. They are the Jews.
Children, people, the children of Abraham, and the rest of the world is going, Jin Chi and clean, uncircumcised.
He says, Do not throw the bread of the children to the gods. Why dogs, all those other non Jew, you mean the British or the whole bang lot? We are all dogs and pigs, according to the Scripture.
Or everyone is talking pig would not come for that, though. But this child's life is at stake. What does she do? She says Master, even the dogs have crumbs, crumbs, you know, for the Masters table columns. So Jesus has given the crumbs currently is the healer.
And she was here the child was here.
But that's the blessings. The teachings are not for the Gentiles, not for the non Jews. They are all dogs and pigs, according he's telling his disciples is not into the way of the Gentiles
and into initiative the Samaritans enter ye not, but rather under the regime of the house of Israel, throughout his life. Throughout his life, he never preached a single non Jew. Among the disciples of Jesus, not one was a non Jew, the Jews, Jews, Jews, 100% Jews, they never preach to the Greeks. He never pitched to the Romans.
He never preached to the Palestinians, only to the Jews, they had his children according to this picture. But of course, if people want to go and take it,
or die, that's their business. But according to Jesus, he said, Look, these are all dogs and pigs and they don't deserve this blessings, the spiritual teaching which he has bought for his own children, the children of Israel, the Jews.
According to the Holy Quran, we are told is made to say Rama La
ilaha illAllah de su we have not sent you
but as a mercy to
Allah me alameen Allah is the word and Amina
to the universe I've sent you as a mercy to the universe.
This I quoted you this ayah from Surah Surah ambia
Now we do find ambia See, it's a good practice it's a good habit when anybody at any time any learner and him gives you the references from the Holy Quran, you know says this is in Yasin Sharif, this is a Zoomer This is Rebecca, this is what you do if a man gives you a reference go check it out.
Not that you distrust the speaker that the man is pulling a fast one on you know you owe it to yourself because if you go and
check it out
what happens while you're reading it for yourself now what you had heard it refreshes your memory and once you read it and allow that thing to penetrate through your mind, it becomes your property that knowledge for the moment this is all entertainment
It was very nice lecture I liked it very much. It was fantastic. You know it is very good. It was so insane. But once you go and verify Surah ambia What does it say? Is it Where do you find it? Very difficult.
You don't do it because it's very difficult to the non Arab especially as I don't know how the Arab does it.
The to you at home when you were friends with ambia
How will you find Zambia
Look, the first young man who can tell me how you can find Surah ambia he gets this Quran free at the end of the talk. He did this as a gift Comic Con young man. How do you find the Quran?
index? Yes. You look at the index. This particular way you will get the Quran at the end of the talk.
You see at the end of this volume This is Abdullah Yusuf Ali. They are available here in the fire.
At the back of this
at the end of it there is an Indian a very comprehensive index. What do you want to know anything you want to know what Allah says you open the index
and in the index as I said I'm Dr. So under a just like in a dictionary look for ambia and until you ambia is chapter 2121 is easy to find because
then I will tell you now is either number 107 107 easy to find once you find 1107 is easy to find everything on your finger. What do you want to know marriage and the divorce and the D
You know about Jesus, but no open j in the index. J. Jesus and the Jesus we find numerous headaches.
You know, Jesus Christ has mentioned in this book in the Quran, no less than 25 times do you know that?
No less than 25 times, but how to find it. index is birth is described in two places, we will find it in
step two, three, verse 42. Onwards is birth, Chapter 19, verses 27 onwards, index.
And it prophetic reading it and share it.
And this book here, this Encyclopedia of 2000 pages is available to you all at five pounds each. I'm not here to do business, but I want to help to help five pounds for this Encyclopedia of 2000 pages. There is not another book that you can get in the world today, 2000 pages for five pounds, this is yours.
To give you the value of this this book here in Birmingham, I purchased this from the book bookstore called Hudson's, this is the Holy Bible. And I paid nine pounds 95 Pence, five pounds less than 10 grams, or the two of this, I pay the price of one, this 915 nine pounds 5095 plus this VAT that.
You eat yourself before you go take it good for yourself, for your employer, let's say your boss, there's no better present in Christmas present or your employee somebody working for you, there is no better present and this is very
present during this is birthday present. Given this. There is movement at present that you can give to your son in law, your brother in law, your employer will employ anybody, everybody. This book must be shared to the rest of mankind. And it is five pounds each. So I said in Surah ambia, Chapter 21 was 107 we are told that the mission of Muhammad is to the universe.
I'm not saying that I'm not saying Mormons will say you are not saying but to the whole universe, Jesus that I'm not saying but to the Jews. difference in the mission.
teachings, the teachings
the teachings were suitable for the needs of the Jews the teachings of Jesus. Look, he came for the Jews so he was particularly catering for their own sicknesses. The Jews had developed certain sicknesses. They had become hot, hot. They had forgotten forgiveness. They had a low An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. Beautiful law for a nomadic people moving from Oasis to oasis in the Sinai and the Moses. They needed a law that will give them quick justice. There's no time for lengthy litigations. There's no time for putting a man in prison. So they do.
Quick justice, an eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth with me my Guruji.
Come on, man. there's work to be done move on, move on.
But laws have a tendency to change characters or people over a period of time.
See the racist people that Hitler like Germany,
Germany, one of the most cultured nation in Europe, the land of Goethe in Beethoven that that nation could incinerate 6 million Jews.
It's impossible then. How can they be so barbaric? 6 million Jews incinerated and because of Hitler, some 40 million people died during the Second World War 40 million people died.
How did he do it? A nation like that. No, you can be programmed, you can be brainwashed
by Jew, Jew Jew, the parasite, the parasite, the parasite. So when it comes to some devil comes along the man kill them or put them in the incinerators, gas chambers, and 90 million Germans they just looked on.
It can happen because I come from a color conscious country South African.
I have invited hundreds of whites, businessmen and missionaries to my home
for dinner and dialogue.
I talk to them I share with them my food and the ideas and they enjoy my talk and my food. Food is captivating. Pakistani, Pakistani.
You can enslave people through the tongue.
So they enjoy my food. They enjoy my talk
and in the past, refused and subsequently the meat industry. You will
How's the missus? Going in my regards to her, but no white man has ever called me to his house for a cup of tea yet.
And I jokingly asked them, I said, You people do such a thing as in supervision in your community, don't you know what his disability is?
That nobody called me for a cup of tea.
I tell you why. No, they're good people. They're good people. They're good human beings, like any other community, but at the back of the mind.
They are color conscious.
In the African, the color, the white color, color, color color, pothead, keeping people apart. So now I give them treatment at the back of the mind, if I call this fellow if he comes along with his wife and children, you know, that long dress and
saliva and and looking for the house, and people are watching this video.
And the woman in the house, he opens the door.
People are watching one year and 5 million goes by half an hour goes by he says Mr. Smith is running a shady illegal liquor or something is selling
subconsciously. So the guys just say hello America to the missus.
This is what laws laws have a tendency between characters of people over a period of time anybody, everybody, we all get brainwashed.
So the Jews got brainwashed.
They forgot forgiveness. So Jesus Christ, another spiritual physician among the Jews
is a spiritual physician. This is the sickness of his people. So he gives them a remedy.
He says, it has been said by the time the prophets have
an eye for an eye.
But I say unto you, this is not evil. He who strikes him that he
This is an antidote for sickness. He says, Man what makes you to walk? I agree with that adversity quickly. While on the way before he takes you before the magistrate and makes you the part with the last body. There is a man takes your coat, the group also the membership one mile, walk with him to
you good Christian.
You should welcome
that guy wanted this little island. That's all.
Welcome. Jesus said
my empire as well. For you, Australia is for you.
This Little Britain.
This is Islam
beaches on the seashore and we find them in
this slum teaching you that Jesus told you that
that's what you're supposed to do. But you didn't follow Jesus we follow Islam. Islam says we must fight
every oppressor. So,
it is only suitable for the
masala he gives us a perfect example. For every situation.
Quran says like a
So most certainly in the apostle of Allah, you have the best example
in every aspect of human life
will find this
in the index
chapter 3321 easy to find. Check yourself, check it out.
We are not trying to be to one or the other.
But Jesus Christ, he gave us a stand.
He has given us a standard. You see, he says in Matthew chapter 11, verse 11, Matthew 1111. He speaks about john the baptist, john the baptist we call him Salah.
See the Jews were expecting that before the coming of the Messiah mercy translated Christ. Elias must come first. A prophet Elias is supposed to have grown up in heaven before Jesus and they believed that he was going to come back before the coming of the Messiah, the Christ. So in Jesus claimed that he is the Christ, the Messiah, the Messiah. They asked him
Is Alliance. So Jesus points out with john the baptist, the john the baptist, his allies are in the spirit of Alliance.
And he testifies about john.
JOHN, the disciples, the people who wrote the Gospel of St. JOHN.
john was a common name like Tom, Dick, and Harry, you're not talking about that. I'm only talking about
john the baptist. So Jesus speaks about him. And he says, among those born of women,
among those born a woman that has not risen, another greater than john the baptist, the greatest prophets of Israel, among the Jews was Yeah.
That's what he said.
That he says,
He is greater than john,
for the woods, the woods the Father has given me to accomplish, Allah, Allah has given me greater responsibility. The responsibility of john was to prepare the way for Jesus, that makes him great. But now the responsibility of Jesus are greater. So the greater the responsibility, the greater the honor,
the greater the status. So he says he is later than dawn, because of the
father is God Almighty has given me to accomplish. So the works tells you your status, what what are you doing,
you have your position, format, you have your position, your manager, you have your position, you have your position, everyone has this position according to the responsibility. So the greater the responsibility, the greater the
responsibility of Jesus was uniform.
That's all based on the Jews take them out of the form of Islam.
That's his job, to bring the Jews to the right path. That's his job that makes him so great about john. Now, the responsibility alleges the Holy Prophet Muhammad
is to guide the whole of mankind in every aspect of human life.
And Jesus Christ prophesied about this mighty messenger of God, he to his people, in the Gospel of St. JOHN, Chapter 16, verse 14, he says,
I have yet many things to say to you.
But he cannot bear them now. You haven't got that capacity? I will tell you a lot of things like the little child here.
What What can I tell them? I will tell them a few stories, according to the capacity, a lot of things to tell people to give, but I can't.
I need the right type of people, which are people who understand what I'm talking about before I can open my mouth.
Jesus Christ is calling his disciples. You cannot.
And the truth of the statement, is it massage throughout the throughout the Bible, again and again, Jesus Christ as his disciples, is it up to faith? Do
we have little faith again and again? And he explains them, as explained in literature and they can understand. So he said, even without understanding yet,
his disciples, He says faithless and perverse generation, faithless and perverse generation, how long should I be with you? How long
should I be with you? I'm saying that if Jesus was a Japanese instead of a G, he would have committed
But he's a Jew, life is near to him, because otherwise, as the Japanese is out of
what can you do
not speak for himself. But what is he here?
And we shall declare that
he shall glorify
this missionaries. Who is the spirit of
the Holy Spirit.
asking what the Holy Ghost tell you in 2000, problems, problems, problems. You Christians, you have more problems than anybody else.
solution to problems. I was telling this lady here in the BBC Radio, you'll hear it on Sunday morning. And that's what breakfast time
name is Julie.
As you know, there are 4 million of the sisters and your Auntie's. If every booty should get married
at the same time, he can keep it as a mystery.
And he can get a dozen children every year. And your nation cities a study is a study
done every year great guidance
and as a debt guy have to pay higher taxes for his players
he made to pay for his wild oats. Why me why the innocent men have to pay higher taxes for these pleasures. Because those delinquents is begetting, who's gonna look after them?
Somewhere around Liverpool, I was on my previous visit, and reading the newspaper that the girls in Liverpool have gone berserk. They just want to anybody come and give us food.
I'm wondering what has happened. This is musi in Liverpool
says that if you have a child, they're bound to give you a combination, you can get a boy. But if you got a child, the municipality there is bound to give you accommodation. So if we have one little brat, at least you know, we can say look, I want accommodation.
Anybody come along, give it to as
I said you have problems. Look at there's something wrong with the British and telling this lady something wrong with you people. As you know, you allow the sodomites in London Hyde Park The other day, the 1000 sort of microcosm case they get in Hyde Park in order to display the waves telling you there's something wrong with you guys.
I said you allow forumites license Yes, because you have license, lens license. But the most natural thing. A man is polygamous by nature. And he was and there's a woman who doesn't mind sharing her husband, there is a woman who doesn't mind the man is prepared to take on extra responsibility.
He was one of them or go to jail.
I want you to repeat that again.
If she hadn't recorded that.
So you listen Sunday morning.
She made me to repeat within three minutes. Okay.
Three minutes. She was thrilled by God because there are 4 million of her sisters can get husbands in Islam gives the answer solution to the problems. When did the Holy Ghost tell you I'm asking? There are 1000 different churches and denominations among the Christian 1000 different churches and denominations. I want to know in the past 2000 years, what did the Holy Ghost tell tell you about how to solve the problem? drunk as alcoholism?
What did we tell you about that? about divorce in South Africa among the whites, the second highest divorce rate in the world among Christians
about that problem of race racism, racism, the highest order, the Hollywood story about that? Nothing, nothing nothing?
Is your answer solution, all your problems, it might not go down? Well, you're used to a certain way of life. But
if you laugh a lot, you simmering your soup
will guide you into all truth. He says I have yet many things to say to you many means more than one in your language. He will guide you into all through all is more than one in your language. Am I right? Or it means more than one many means more than one.
More than one. Only one. Just give me one new thing that the Holy Ghost gave you 1000 million Christians in the world today. one new thing that Jesus Christ already didn't give you in so many different words Give me one. And in 40 years new Christian bond has been able to come forward and say look, this is what the Holy Ghost taught us how to help solve the problem.
The sublimity of the message to the people that is they are addressing both Jesus and Mohammed. Jesus Christ tells his people
is that if you love me, keep my commandments. Beautiful, beautiful. Love me. keep my commandments. Please listen to me whenever I tell you, you do you love me. Then you listen to me.
The Holy Prophet Muhammad Sol, Sol.
his way to St. Paul tell them in Cancun, perfect buena la see if you love a la
buena LA for
me up como la, then follow me, Allah will love you. If you love Allah, then you follow me, Jesus, if you love me, you keep my commandments.
You see, he is addressing a type of people who can only see the men in front of them. Like you tell you little children, there's so many ways you can encourage children to do good deeds. Number one
is look if you don't do this a year record.
Number two is Look, if you do this, I'll give you a lollipop.
On the stick, you have the little lollipop as you do that, you're encouraging the child.
You do this? I give this award, you know, as they have ice cream, you do this, you know, I'll give you money to go to the cinema on Saturday, Saturday. Depends Are you bribing the child to go do this up in my car?
You encouraging the child, you bribing the child, that child when he reaches the stage, you got to hit the stage where you do good for the sake of being good. He's doing good. Now he's behaving because he ought to behave. He's doing good is is very cooperative, very helpful, because he ought to be like that. Do you see different stages, there are stages and stages. You added a stage, when you can only see the man in front of you, even though you like me said yes, then you must listen to me. You can understand that. But if you love Allah, God Almighty, the unseen God of the universe, you love him, then you follow me. And Allah will love you see, the level, the level of the teaching
here is only he is forced to address people according to the capacity according to their understanding. According to the background, this is only natural, you can't speak over our people's heads, you talking something and they don't understand a thing. So he's talking to them in a manner which they can understand and follow
at the debate,
the previous previous debate which shows
glorify Jesus, to the extent of divinity, that is God Almighty, and one of those qualities that made him to say that was the Jesus Christ when he was on the cross.
He was so forgiving. He said,
Father, God, forgive them for the new not what they do. Forgive them.
But it says you know, there is a time and place for everything.
Forgiveness has his rights, time and place
when you are down, and somebody sitting on your chest,
like Hitler had to conquer this land, and he said the way to us is that we will kill you. You know, Jesus told us forgive 70 times seven,
said You're a fool man. Forgiveness calls for time and place. Now you go on, take over. And now you tell them, Look, you have done so much wrong. But now we have learned Mercy from Us. We are not like you. We forgive you for what you have done plus debt forgiveness, you are in a position to forgive when you're helpless. And you say I forgive them because what else can you do?
Real forgiveness. I said there is a time when you got your enemy under control. Then if you say look, I forgive you. You know what you did to me? I will do that to you.
That is forgiveness. Holy Prophet Muhammad is forgiveness. Look at it. he conquers Makkah.
he conquers Makkah. After 13 years of suffering he had to flee for his life. His companions had to flee tries to ever senior migration.
Law and they killed his daughter what what they did to him and his people. Now, eventually, he conquers his enemy.
But does he do? Because
he said, What do you expect with my hands today? What do you expect now? They knew his nature to where they said mercy, or generous brother and nephew. So the prophet of Islam, Mohammed Salah says is I will speak to you, as Joseph spoken to his brother, as the use of Elisha, you know what the brothers betray? So I will speak to you as Joseph Polk and his brother is, I will not.
I will not scold you today, go here free time and place for forgiveness. Hamas shows you when to forgive that your enemy is under your control. You can do what you like with them. And then you say look, I forgive you. Forgiveness,
fulfillment of prophecy, Jesus Christ and Muhammad are the closest in history,
history to one another.
And Jesus Christ is made to say I see
Refer to you about the Gospel of St. JOHN. Now in the Holy Quran in Surah Surah. So if
you find that and the S sub chapter 61, verse six, has the ISA Islam Jesus Christ is made to say, what is called Mariama, behold Jesus, the son of Mary said Yabba Nusra Isla, all children of Israel in me Rasulullah Alaykum most certainly, and the Messenger of God sent to you all you Jews Rasulullah Musa Lima, Avenida de Yamuna, turati, confirming the revelation which came before me in the Torah, Ramu bashira, mira su li, a member of mad and giving glad tidings of a messenger to come after me whose name shall be, which is another name for Muhammad. he prophesied about the coming of our Holy Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu sallam, and this prophecy is still there in the Christian
It is still there, despite the fact that his words are not preserved as a whole, despite the fact only 10% of the New Testament are the words of Jesus, according to what they have, what they say what they claim. 90% is nothing is not the words of Jesus 90%
Still, this prophecy is today, we are showing it 20 different lady. See, I was in March, I was in Egypt.
I have some visa problem. I won't go into details.
A man from the LSE failed. So he brings an Egyptian lady. Well, a tired westernized lady well spoken. And this is this lady will help you.
So she tried and she failed. So she tells me look sit for half an hour. And I will see what I can do for you. She returns after over an hour and 740 dollars. So look, I'm a guest of the government is $40 24 to 24%. I give her the $40.
She was so well spoken. So I'm asking her
nice monkey. what little I know a few words about Arabic as a minus monkey, what is your name? So she gave me a name? I can't remember. Because it was so strange to me never had a name like that in my life. It went through one side came out the other side.
My second question as a Muslim, ah, are you Muslim? She says no, I'm a Christian.
Who is my customer? Look, this is what the Muslim ought to be doing looking for customers.
you know one fact. Look for a customer for that one fact I will not be a creme de la sala, the Holy Prophet Muhammad.
Allah deliver the message regarding me even if it is one verse, If you know one fact Give it, give it and Allah will give you more is the secret of knowledge. If you have one, you give that one you keep on giving another add another and another and your knowledge explodes. expands. This is the secret of learning. Give me give
us an opportunity. I said you know, Nina, she's a Christian and she's an Egyptian. So I said you know Jesus before he parted, he said,
in Angelica, the Allahu Allah Malik Lottie, Kumasi well I can relate.
I didn't translate it for her, because she understood what I said,
for your benefit. What I said was, I quoted her from the Gospel of St. john chapter 16 verse seven, where it says, nevertheless, I tell you the truth, it is expedient for you that I go away for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come to you. But if I go, I will send him that's what I quoted her in Arabic. So I'm asking her Who is this noisy? Logitech z. So she says, I don't know.
So I'm telling her. I said, you see in the Quran, we are told that Jesus said to His disciples, when Baba Shira Mira Celine Yachty member, this Muhammad and giving black tidings of a messenger to come after me whose name shall be mad, which is another name for Mohammed, Mohammed is mercy.
This is very funny. This is you know, this Egypt, meaning the Muslim Egyptians, they take us to the cinema.
But nobody tells us about mercy.
She gave me a sledgehammer
to beat the Muslims here.
Look, she says these Egyptians means your Muslim Brothers, they take us to the cinema, this Christian woman, you take them to the cinema, you take them to the dance. And we know from the way you go back, nobody tells us about mercy.
So now as soon as I get to the city, I mean this elite, elite, Egyptian brothers of ours, and I'm telling us a look I met an Asian woman just now.
meticulous person very well educated.
This is where she tells me that you take them to the cinema, you take them to the dance, but you don't tell them anything. But is it true? And this is
our president say yes. Ask another book as if it's true. He said, Yes. Everyone who asks, Is it true what you said? He said, Yes. So what's wrong with you?
1400. God, the Muslim in Egypt, this ruling is the master. For a few years, the British were they, they were masters. For a few years, the French were there, but overall for 1400, masters of Egypt, overall 1400 years, and in 1400 days, you have not made even a scratch on the Christian community out in Hawaii. Even now, are you prepared to talk to them? No.
utterly helpless for 30 million Muslims in Egypt? They are utterly helpless speech less they can talk to the Christians. They can't. I don't know why I'm asking them. So you,
you Muslims. You read the Quran.
In your own mother tongue, you said yes. I say you understand what you read. You said yes. I said look my people. You were the Pakistani, Bangladeshi, Hindi, my people, the non Arabs, all my people. I said you see my people they read the Quran but they don't understand what they read.
But you you understand what you're reading said yes. So as the Allies telling you, he's telling us all but because we don't understand for us is the water on duck's back.
But as this is telling you, you Egyptians
Lal Kitab or People of the Book lotta goofy Dini.
People of the Book, meaning Oh, Jews and Christians lotta goofy Dini can say do not go to extremes in religion. Well, ah, Hulu, Allah, Allah Illallah, Huck, and don't say anything about Allah except the truth in mercy. Most certainly the Messiah, translated Christ in namale mercy. Maria Ma, Jesus, the son of Mary Rasulullah is a messenger of Allah wa Kalamata, who and a word proceeding from him Hello, ha, ha. Illa Maria Maria, whom in whom we she bestowed upon me and his spirit proceeding from him balmy bill la hora. De so believe in Allah and His Messenger Jesus? Did you tell them that says no.
These actions are telling you No.
zoo? Tell them malata kulu selasa don't say Trinity into her Lacan. This is stupid, it will be better for you. Blah, blah, blah. For your allies. One Allah is not in one. He's not one in three. So did you tell him that he said,
anyone who says that Jesus Christ is God is making Kufa is an act of blasphemy is fusion against God
wacol mercy but Christ
mercy but cry said mercy said Yabba nice Raji
la boo la worship Allah rapira boom with my Lord and your Lord in Abu Sheikh Milla whoever will associate anyone with Allah, Allah Allah, Allah will make haram for them.
And the fire of hell will be the dwelling phase. One mile is one immediate mean and far and for the longest, there'll be no one to help as a digital bank.
who people have the book, which was in Christian
era, kalama manana that will come to common terms as between SMU
law that we worship a law
and that we associate new partners with him about the
law and that we do not take from among ourselves laws and patrons other than Allah in our low but if they turn back populist Muslim, tell them that we are Muslims, we have submitted to the will of Allah. I said, Did you tell them Did you call them?
I said you did this you understand what your allies telling you and you don't have
Is this applicable to ask Deaf dumb and blind you will not return to the VA? Is it applied to class? What is it? Are you deaf, are you
Why is it that you can't open your mouth?
They don't know what law they don't know. I'm asking these questions. How is it that 1400 years you haven't open your mouth? And even not you're not prepared to do I want to know why.
I tell you why.
secret. You see, the secret is Allah gives one law he's given everything to us. Nobody really reads a grant, we have hundreds of Grant cardones Yes, we rattle off the whole Quran without the slightest mistake. But we don't understand one word. Not one word we carry in our heads, but we don't understand one word
is an amazing situation. It's a miracle. But it's a disgrace. You know, we can regulate off the air can understand if you sit around the Kaaba and reading the Quran.
You reading the Quran is listening.
A better than linear,
this is going to talk to you.
You may say you can read this book. And you can you can say give me a glass of water. You can even say give me a glass of water. I'm thirsty.
What is the reason? Why can't you do the job? I tell you why.
I said you see Allah gives you elementary no elementary secret.
He says work hard. And they say the Jews and the Christians they say lanius hola gentlemen, Lamin Kana cassara that you will never never enter Jannah
unless Illa, Montana, Massara unless you become a Jew, but unless you become a Christian. That's what the Jews were telling the early Muslims that you want to follow this.
man he doesn't know how to read or if you follow him. He's gonna misguide you, man, you want to go to heaven. You follow us? The Christian say you want to go to heaven? You follow us?
So unless there's an answer to that, Bill, come on. This is that wishful thinking, this is hallucinations.
This is a hallucination. All tell them how to come to the show, prove your certificate that entitles you to heaven. And Dustin says to hell, let's have a look at your certificate.
This is a secret How? Let's have a look at
the very fact that Allah commands us human proof it presupposes that when proof is produced, you will be able to analyze it.
That's what it means. Once you start doing that, he hasn't got a leg to stand upon. Voila, there. He's got no chance against. You have to now ask him for proof. But without you asking he's provided you the proof.
In 2000 different languages, you know that the Bible is Yeah, my Bible says my Bible says that my Bible says my Bible says that. He's giving you free Bibles. You know that. There is a working effort at the moment now. shuru said on Sunday, that 5000 Bibles were shipped from America to be distributed at 83. But he says the address is only doing somewhere else.
Sooner or later.
They have that persevering quality which we haven't gone they will see that you get it.
You were supposed to ask them for proof. Without you asking. They say Look, my Bible says is my Bible says that now you must follow that. Know what you do
with Allah commands is to demand proof. It presupposes that when proof is produced, we'll be able to analyze it otherwise it makes no sense nonsense.
Once you start analyzing and you find he hasn't got a leg to stand upon, things that is telling you is not in his book.
Whatever is trying to teach is not there.
What you do
get these little books. When you get the Bible you need this book.
As an instruction book, what to do with the Bible is the Bible God's word get it from the Islamic propagations and then Birmingham was part one here in Bedford we will help you shall start once you can get literature you must you studied and you help you other brothers and you share with other people you will sit on your backside doing nothing and waiting as a sitting back sitting target using for the people to come and practice in your life punching back boxing pressing on you using the other doormat eating or drinking over tea eating or samosas and then making mess of us is that the role Allah has in store for us? No, he says Allah says the destiny of the Muslim and his Tamizh
the liquidity is giving you a dean is the master overcome and supersede them all.
He does was sent His messenger with guidance by the mill Hawk and with the religion of thought
that it may prevail, Oregon supersede every other Dean, whether it be Hinduism Buddhism, Christianity, Islam, communism, Judaism, every Islam Islam is destined to master them all. bulldoze them all.
Those are those that works. I get fascinated when I see moving mountains, that you move them all civica fabula shahida as a witness to this fact, there is going to make his dream to prevail with you or without you is giving you that opportunity to serve is de to do a profit job and earn a profit reward. Will you take it as a question? Will you take that, that honor that privilege, he wants you to do a profit job and earn a profit reward.
Because if your profits job and level being less to you, if you do the manager's job and he pay you a sweepers reward. Allah is not like that. The prophets job
not with the gun, not with the grenade. If you hide it, even if at the laser gun, Allah forbid you using it. This is
it is no compulsion in religion.
Like gravity, there is no compulsion in religion, even if you had it, you can use it was forced me is worthless. We have a few Christian present among us, few non Muslim among us. And he's an avid jet, you can say the kalama, the Shahada, the creed of Islam. So what's that, say? Like?
I'm asking you what is it worth?
worthless rubbish. Allah says, No, you can't do that. It must be willful acceptance, cooperation, willingness, getting together a fellowship of faith get together. And this is the destiny of the Muslim to do the job. And the way to do the job, you have to master his weapons, the weapon is carrying his book, you must know his book, once you know his book, he is childsplay in front of you. So with these words of my dear brethren, I want you to take this challenge is a challenge. Islam is a challenge to them. And as the whole world is a challenge, we are destined to change the world for Allah. Not Allah says for Allah. And the way to do it is you master the weapons of the enemy.
wannabe Kareem Salalah. Solomon said,
Warren strategy and strategy demands that you use the weapons of your enemy.
The weapon that he uses is the book, the Bible, must have the book and go to town.
May I sincerely thank you for a very enlightening and illuminating this course. May Allah reward you for that.
Lady, who is it British and Christian, he wants to
be, he wants to embrace Islam,
this lady into the fold of Islam, and as a result,
has asked me to let it be known that when any session of question and answer is over, then this will change.
that lives that Jesus only came to the Jews.
And yet, he said to one of the leading Jews, that God so loved the world. And that includes us all,
as he gave us some, but if you believe on Him, we should not perish.
when the Romans sent China and came to him, asking for Asian pre servant, he said, I haven't done such faith in Israel. And many would come from the east to the west.
And faced with
Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, because most of the Jews would not be that.
You say, sir, the first verse you quoted
It was from john 316,
that Jesus did not have those words. Those are the words of john. Jesus didn't say God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in him. These are not the words of Jesus, you look up in this red letter Bible, you will find these are not the words of Jesus, they are in black.
But this is what your Christian scholars tell us that these are not his words. With regards to the centurion with the Roman soldier, did he convert the man? Did he convert the Romans? Did he convert the Greek? Nobody out of the 12 disciples, not one was a non Jew 100% Jews have any other questions.
And when I came to the meeting tonight, I wasn't quite sure what I was coming to. But I came through the door. No doubt at all.
I was entitled Jesus and Muhammad, and Jesus first.
I'm sure you will accept that you did not put the case for Christianity as a Christian, I'm sure that I can understand in an audience that this this kind of already persuaded towards the Muslim world thinking.
And indeed, I would say that I, as an individual would respect the Quran. I'm afraid you didn't know respect my book, which is the Bible in quite the same way. In fact, I'm a teacher. And in my question about a television, which is fixing the rules, and all the top of the televisions was just rude to put the Quran because I respected my, my Muslim children to my students, and I put the five I know you respect your
place. So I do that, and I put it into the highest stage. Now what I'm saying to you is this, you've not really
given my opinion, anyway, the Christian loving and forgiving these two essential things, although you denigrate forgiveness, for some reason, as harshly as I would, but more than that, especially as this point,
Mohammed, you talked a lot about Jesus you talked about,
we don't talk much about the past, Mohammed, oriented around too much of the missionary aspect of it.
Could you tell me how you can believe in indeed, anybody in this room who believe in one man who couldn't wait to write, they could get his followers by bloodshed through war? How you can believe that that man was a follower of GOD, let alone a prophet of God, to
to accept all his teachings, as you do so deeply, and yet reject Christianity, the Holy Book of Christianity so easily as well.
We say you have thrown in so many things, in this little contribution of yours,
that how can we believe in a man who was illiterate
and who by bloodshed, who has spread his faith, converted the people.
Now with regards to the men being Unlimited, this is a fulfillment of the prophecy in your book
of fulfillment, the book of Isaiah chapter 29, verse 12, it says there and the book is given to him that is not learned.
the book is given to him that is not learned, saying, read, and he says, I am not learned. Now, if you look for in religious history of men, in the Bible, you will never find an occasion where any prophet of God when given the message of God, he says, I'm not learning. But if you read any biography of Muhammad, any written by Muslims or non Muslims, they will tell you that the first revelation that was given to him in Hydra Hera, the amount of Hera, when the angel of God comes to him in commands him in his mother tongue is read. And Muhammad says ma Baccarin said I'm not learned. So the angel of God commands him a second time. Read. And again, he says, my avatar is not
learned. For the third time the angel of God embraces him hard and is dismayed because he,
Nancy Grace the message, that what he was required to do was to repeat, because this Arabic word means to read, to recite, to rehearse, to repeat, and repeat the words as they were given to him, because he had luck reading the name of the Lord and cherishing who created Hala Collinson. I mean, Allah says He created man from a mere prod of congealed blood. takehara bukal Akram, so reading the Lord is most bountiful. So he says ekra Bukola Quran, Allah Allah will Kalam. So he thought the use of the pin is Allah Allah Allah, Allah, Allah Emily in Santa mala yalom thought, Man that which is not the very fact that the man is unlearned, is a proof that this book is a book of God.
Let me let me say that this book is the book of God and illiterate man, a man who can read or write,
actually look, don't misrepresent
it men can listen to 2% at the same time, nobody can.
the very fact the man can veto right and he produces a book of this nature, giving solution to all your problems, all your problems, this is a challenge. I said, Look, come on, man, you have problems. You have 4 million women in England today you can get husbands, even if every Englishman but marriages never happen. You got 4 million of your sisters and your aunties and cousins, they can't get husbands. What is the answer? So this book gives you the answer. problems, alcohol, you have no answers. 2000 years, your family. This book gives you the answer. I could answer that by let's say, what about the kidnapping in Lebanon, which was done by Muslims? What about the Iraqi
Iran was done by Muslims? What about
I wouldn't do that. And
I haven't listened to you. But why not? Let me finish it. Let me finish. You are the principal. Yes, yes. Yes. Yes. You had the principal of a school and you know, you asked.
We'll give you a chance again.
The second charge that is spread is religion by bloodshed.
You see, you know, you're great man. You're great man. Thomas Carlyle. You heard about him, one of the greatest thinkers of the past century, in 18 140. In England, he delivered a series of talks on heroes and hero worship. And you know who he chose as his hero, Prophet, Muhammad.
His hero profit, not David, not Solomon, not Moses, not Jesus. But Muhammad is his hero Prophet, your man, Thomas Carlyle. And he defends Mohammed, listen, to listen to him. After all, look, who was bribing him? To say the things that he was saying, I want you to tell me. So look, some Arabs bribed him at 140. Here in England. When the Arab world the Muslim was down in the cotton, a whole lot of it. This English man though British, Thomas Carlyle, he says about this accusation of yourself that just saw, he said the sword is that the sword indeed? But where will you get your thought? Is it every new opinion at this beginning is precisely in the minority of one.
In one man's head alone, there it goes as yet, it is one man against all men, that he takes a sword and try to propagate that will do little for him. So first, you must get your soul. When you get your soul
by force, one man against all men, the whole nation, whatever he preached, it was going against the grain of the nation. They were not like politician, Mohammed was not a politician. The politician was giving you what you want. Churchill was giving offering you what you wanted. You wanted to save your country from the Germans. He said, Look, you listen to me, and I will see that you Germany doesn't conquer this country, Hitler told his people, you listen to me, and I will give him some elbow room that he will rule this Europe and the world for 1000 years. Muhammad is going against the grain of the whole nation, a nation of drunkards, he is the one to drink his new drink. When a
gambler says no gambling, there are endless limitless number of why this has no limit. At every step, he went against the grain and he conquered them. With what with Assad, one man against the whole world with Assad. Does it make sense? Then the Muslim spread out, you know, we will spend for 800 years. If 800 years the Muslims rule, any type of force, even economic force, we wouldn't have been thrown out of Spain. 800 years, we rule that country. And when we were kicked out, there was not one man left in the country to give us a reason because they didn't use any type of force. We ruled India for 1000 years, Muslims. And after 1000 years of Muslim rule. When partition takes
place, the Muslim gets one quarter the Hindu gets three quarters. Why? Because we didn't use any force
in the nation Indonesia. I want to know which Muslim army when they 130 million Muslims, Malaysia, which Muslim army when they the whole of East Africa, which Muslim army when they the whole of West Africa with Muslim army when they tell me force today in Britain, people like you, sir. People who think we're not prejudiced, they are accepting Islam.
It is a sort of intellect. So
one little rule one little rule. I think the chairman, the chairman for what to lay down, and that was each person would be allowed one question at a time. No, no, no, no, no.
No, no, no, no, that doesn't devalue. So one question at a time, then what the person does he goes to the back of the queue and takes a turn again. Can I just say that? Thank you very much for listening, and Jesus is the Lord. Amen.
Well, I'm a school teacher and fundamental Christian.
And I've been involved in many denominations, I always see Christianity in terms of Jesus, not in terms of the different factions of churches within Christianity. And, Mr. Speaker, I really am concerned with the examples of Christian behavior, which you cited to the audience tonight. Those examples being the the mothers in Liverpool, those examples being the divorce rate in England, those examples being you know, the kind of world we live in. And I agree that England is a desperate place in need of redemption. But I mean, I believe that through Jesus, I'm not questioning Mohammed, upset, I believe in Jesus. But I just like to know, do you think that you have given examples of
Christian people and their behavior? Do you think those people you quoted as examples are, in fact practicing Christians?
what I was doing was
that, look, you have a problem which you accept that you have a problem.
The Christians in England, the Christians in England and in America, and all over the world, you have certain problems in South Africa, they have certain problems.
I think this is the problem, this is your problem. Your problem is that you are sort of looking at the culture, assuming because we have a nominal Christian head that is the queen of who is the head of the Church of England? I mean, I don't know whether the queen is a crip. committed Christian. I don't know whether Margaret Thatcher is a committed Christian. You know, I would be very concerned that they become committed Christians, because they only then are they able to leave the country. I think the problem is when you assume that the people you quote as examples, divorces, and all this kind of thing, then you are in very dangerous water because you actually come to any people and
neither are not Christians at all. Just to me, that for now you have an answer. You see, if you are a Christian, which you claim you are, the Queen of England is not Mrs. Margaret Thatcher probably is not. You are you say you are born again. No, no, you are born again. So you believe that you are a Christian, but the rest of this country who fill the census forms, when they asked what religion? They don't say Jew, they don't say Buddhist, they don't say Muslim, they put down question.
So what you do is they fill their census form as Christians, the Muslims, when they fill up the forms, they also fool as Muslims, that doesn't mean that they're good Muslims. But if a Muslim does something evil,
I can't say he's not a Muslim, is very easy way out for the Christian if he's not a Christian, I say, Well, look, your brother did second he committed murder. He raped somebody who, sadly was a Muslim, for example, I feel ashamed to say, Well, he was a very bad Muslim. I can't say he's not a Muslim. You can get out very, very easily. So look, Margaret Thatcher is not a Christian mootai in South Africa is not a Christian religion is not a Christian, are the fact that you know he was tantalizing millions on TV. And when you heard him, you and every born again Christian in America, 75 million born again. When they were listening to him, they were agitating him as a Christian. Now
when he's caught out,
he's not a Christian, because it's hot out now. Sir sweigart got cut out. Jim Baker got bought out. Marvin Gorman, reverends got caught out. So immediately you turn that he's not a Christian. He's not a Christian. He's not a Christian, very easy way out. But now you are a Christian. And there are many like you who say you are born again. You live, right. So now you have to supply the answer. The solution to the problem. You have 4 million of your sisters,
which is every British that gets married, they can get husbands. Now this, you're born again. How do you satisfy the needs of those 4 million of your sisters and your Auntie's who can't get husbands. Now you work that out and you come back and we listen to you. But if you have to go to the back, now, you go to the back
just like to make a suggestion or comment on it. Because I think we could argue too with blue in the face about the bad points of what people are called Christians have done in the past and the bad things that people who call themselves Muslim had done, which is sort of go backwards and forwards, like a tennis match with that sort of thing. And,
also, I mean, so that's, that's, to me that my suggestion is that you've got words in the Bible that you accept, like the prophecy that you're attached to Muhammad, which is weird attached to the Holy Spirit's tennis match? No, it's great. No, it's Mohammed. And then you say about the major revisions being changed. But the Bible, I just want to ask you response this. I'm not I'm not a speaker. And so it takes me a bit. Right, so
the Bible Translators use Greek manuscripts to go back to the second century. So another argument that surely he can't say is about that the Bible is revised since the King James in 1611, five times so it can't be true anymore, because the more that they revise it this century, they found more manuscripts that go further back. And they use these Greek manuscripts and compare it all these offerings do so the question is an outcome you know,
what is the truth bought by this sort of argument? Because the third Calif apparently from what I've read, also an influence on the compiling of the Quran. Yes, he had a book a Quran that had been his wife without under the bed or something, then there was other writings that were starting to get circulated, apparently. And the third color, got it together. I said, right, we've got to make a final Quran and decide what's going to be the true Word. So surely, the only way that we can really know which is the true book, is not to say, from my own background, I'm a Christian. So I'm going to say this, and you say, I'm a Muslim. So I'm going to believe this. Surely, it's to get both books
sit down with both of them. And to say, God, the true God, please speak to me the open and just ask God to show your shoulder. That's the only way. I don't think we could argue to blue in the face. But yeah, I can say that Olivia, because Jesus loving me. That's the answer for the world.
And you could say this, and that, surely, what's your response to that? That to sort of get both books and say, God, which is the truth, instead of sort of arguing that the Bible has been changed, and they've got the second century manuscript? And the third Calif, changed the Quran? Yeah, maybe.
So what's your response to that? Is that surely the only answer is to just pray instead of using all these arguments? Surely, it's to just pray and what do you think you have been telling us? in so many words, that's let us take these two books.
And start reading them both, and allow God to tell you from heaven. Look, this is not the book of God, but this is not the Bible, but the Quran and you will listen. You will listen to that God is the God you hear the voice from heaven telling you. He said, Look, this Bible is not the book of God. This is according to Bernard Shaw, your great man, George Bernard Shaw, you know, the playwright. He said, this is the most dangerous book on earth. He said, keep it under lock and key, your children must not have access to it. That's what he said. George Bernard Shaw, the plain truth magazine. In a Christian magazine coming from America, seven to 8 million a month free copies are
being given out. They say that many a sensor will give it an X rating.
I don't go into all that. We went through all this on Sunday. But now, you knew the guy who talks about God telling him
Marvin Garmin in America tell evangelist. That is what he claimed. God talks to him.
Marvin, Garmin, Reverend Marvin Garmin, he was caught for adultery, and he was defrocked by his church, Jim Becker. God speaks to him. Jimmy Swaggart, in his words, if you ever read them, he says, God speak to him. He says my son, my son, and he's telling him what to do and what not to do. But this bottle mighty didn't tell him not to go to a posse to twice a week, twice a month, and what he was doing there, so
the people who are talking about God talking to them the same type of sickness, they need psychiatrist, the guy who says no God, because God doesn't pop like that. He doesn't come to you every time they can Harry Intelligencer, not just that book. If he was doing that, he will have done it to everybody. Everybody would have followed Christ or everybody or followed Muhammad. God doesn't do that. He's given me intelligence. He's given you intelligence, and that intelligence you have to choose and what I was presenting to you I said, Look, here is a case
Jesus Christ makes a prophecy, in which he says, There is somebody coming who will guide you into all truth. Now you say that spirit of truth of the hood is the Holy Ghost. That spirit is the Holy Ghost. So I said, Now look, what new things did he teach in 2000 years, which nobody is coming forward to give an answer. You have Christians here, this young man here, he takes this as an excuse for giving his card. He's a mission for Jesus. He wants to give you a card. As Look, he was speechless didn't have one question to ask. There's something wrong with the Holy Ghost seems to desert people when they come to the mic to ask questions, what has happening? You have the Spirit in
you. But nobody asked questions. I said, Look, the way is, the Quran says how to find out this book confirms what is right in your book. And it corrects what is wrong. It cuts you. And it supplements things that you don't know it supplements. This is the claim of this book. Now you analyze this book, you know the Bible already. Now read the Quran is offering a solution to your problem. Problem of alcohol, you haven't had it yet, in 2000 years with all your born against 75 million born again, Christians in America, you haven't got solution to your problems.
If you want the answers, the problems, the solutions are here, open the book and read it. And if you are not prejudiced, not jaundiced, spiritually not jaundiced, you will be able to recognize the voice of God. Your masters voice God Almighty talking like Jesus to the Jews, and the sheep and the goats. They hear the Masters voice. How is it that you can't hear your masters? What's in God's voice speaking through Jesus? How is it that you are prejudiced thing to do is remove those blinkers of prejudice, which the book and listen whether this is not the spirit of food that you're waiting for, because otherwise, there is no hope the sickness will develop one again, one again, one again,
but they never grow up. They're ever born again. Little infants, nobody ever grows up. So my son, the way to do is, you don't wait for God Almighty to speak to you from heaven, because that department is closed, that departments closed no more, you got to not give in the box, you just for yourself. That is the answer.
Your lecture, or informative, or entertaining, or interesting to listen to what I found very sad, I am a born again, Christian. What I found very sad was in 40 years and correct me if I'm wrong. I believe he did say that in 40 years, you've never met a Christian who has been able to come to the throne and tell you what the Holy Spirit's done thing?
Is that correct?
I think I said that in 40 years that I'm doing this work,
nobody has brought forth.
One one new thing that any church including the ball against, you have to come and tell me
that this Holy Ghost came and told you solution to these problems
with which he came to When did he come to you to give you answers for the rest of Christian done that now alcohol? What do you do about alcoholism? What do you do about gambling, what you do about surplus women? What do you do about racism? I want to know what the Holy Ghost told anybody in 40 years I'm asking, nobody has come out with one new truth with the Holy Ghost gave to any church at any time. One.
a reasonable time and
God is interested in men and women, God is interested in in my life. And since the Holy Spirit came into my life, when I became a born again Christian, is how we make decisions concerning money is how we like to love my wife, individually, any system, see that people looking for a way out, Christians are looking for a way out. Some find it in Hinduism, some join the heavy Krishna movement, some join the devil worshipping cult, you find somewhere along the line the guy gets caught out, he becomes a Jehovah's Witness. He found it. He becomes a Seventh Day Adventist he found his son become born again. This is he found it. The experience this is talking about is something subjective. In other
words, human being anybody, you're looking for a way out his wife and he must have had close endless corals. Maybe he was imbibing too much alcohol, all these problems there. He was looking for a way out and somebody came along with a little charisma, so look nice and allow Christ to come into your life. I see it works. It does work. There's no doubt about that. But harikrishna movement also works. Islam also works. Buddhism also works. You are a drowning man clutching at straws, somewhere along the line, some little help and you have saved yourself but
The question still remains. Look, you haven't answered the question 40 years, not a single Christian in the world of any church or denomination has come forward to say that the Holy Ghost gave my church. This solution. The Anglicans, the Roman Catholics, the Presbyterians, the Lutheran come as any church that says, We heard the Holy Ghost came and told us how to solve the problem of surplus women how to solve the problem of alcohol, how this will solve the problem of racism. Look, these are individual experiences, which everybody is going through at all times. I'm not doubting you, my son, what you said, I believe that your life could be changed. But this does not change 60 million
Britishers it won't change 250 million Americans, you need a way of life direct instructions, which each and everybody can understand in a clear cut language and this book gives it to you
salaamu alaikum. So, I am a Muslim. And therefore I speak under the assumption that the people who follow me with some exceptions are also Muslims, and therefore I am in my right place to speak. My point is this, that at the start of your well prepared and well researched talk, you refer to Jesus Christ as hazard Isa Li salam, I as a Muslim, like yourself, believe in his visa and Isilon as a true prophet of God. As your talk went on, I got the feeling perhaps I was alone in getting that feeling maybe other people who listened to your talk in an open minded fashion as I did, I tried to do I got the feeling that at times
with due respect you you appear to mock as if this is law, law, you appear to mock his teachings. And
therefore, I feel that if that feeling is correct, that in the course of your talk, you have not only again with due respect, not only contradicted yourself, but also misrepresented, misrepresented the teachings of Islam, which are to respect all the true prophets of Allah. What are your comments? before you move away from the mic? You see, you made an allegation? Very serious allegation that I have mocked Jesus, I just want you to give one example. One example Look, I spoke for more than an hour. Surely you can give one example let the people hear what walking did I do as a Muslim? One, one example. Let them here.
My impression was that
his teachings were true teachings of Allah. And Muhammad Mustafa sallallahu alayhi wa sallam synonyms teachings were
a development of those teachings and an expansion of those teachings, as you correctly said to the world at large. But in your, in the way you delivered your speech in the way you referred to the design Islam in the course of your speech, there is no particular example as such, but when I record an hour, you can do one example of mockery, but you will say incorrect and that please, please, look, this is hypocrisy of the highest order. When you say you are a Muslim, and you are talking with tongue in cheek
and you say there are people who follow you. I don't know what you mean is that there are some people who follow you whether you belong to some new kind of elite must have a what I don't know. You said people who follow you. I don't know who are the followers here. All these are your followers.
But you said they follow you. Now look, you see this is you're making mischief, my son, you are making mischief.
What you have to do is, look, give examples. Now if you were a Christian, I would have been happy to deal with you as a Christian. Because if you say I made mockery, I said this is what the Bible says. This is how the Bible put it. He said Oh, generational wipers. You whited sepulchres You wicked and adulterous generation. Now, if that is offensive to anybody, I said, these are not my words. I never spoke like that. I never uttered words to that effect. You see that you fools. You hypocrites. You brood of snakes. You know who's talking like that?
Jesus in the Bible. He says, You brood of snakes. You wicked and adulterous generation. Do you know all that? Do you know that Jesus speaks like that? The Christians say this is how Jesus spoke. You know, he
inserted his mother is a woman, what have I to do with you? You know that? Am I making a mockery? Or is the Bible making a mockery of the man? I want to know if you were a Christian, I could have asked you. I said, Look, man, you don't need your own book. I'm only quoting you what he's supposed to have said. He said, Do not throw the bread of the children to the dogs. Now you must come forward, the Christian must come forward and say, Look, Jesus never said any such thing and making a mockery of his religion. This is what Jesus said. He said, Do not throw that witches Julio into dogs. Do not throw pearls before swine. Am I making a mockery of you making a mockery? If you're a Christian, as
a you are making a mockery of Jesus,
this mighty messenger of God, who we believe that he was born miraculously,
am I right? He was born miraculously as a Muslim, we believe, without any male intervention. This book gives us two genealogies of Jesus, Matthew and Luke, they give you 66, fathers and grandfathers to a man who had no father. Now I want to know who's making a mockery, the Quran or the Bible.
66 fathers and grandfathers were men who had no father.
And out of the two lists given by Matthew Luke, there's only one name common to the bootless. Joseph the carpenter, and he's not supposed to be there. Because he's not the actual father of Jesus. Am I right? As a Muslim, but he is supposed to be the father of Jesus Christ. And Luke says, So, Luke says, and Jesus happened to be about 30 years of age, when he began to preach who being the son of Joseph,
who being the son of Joseph, that's what Luke says, in the words, are they after that in brackets, as was supposed.
And if you ask any Christian scholar, any Christian scholar, what are these words mean in practice? They will tell you that Luke in his manuscripts in the Codex Sinaiticus, Codex vaticanus, Codex alexandrinus, these words are not they, these are the words of the editors. So Luke said that Jesus is the son of Joseph, as was supposed are your words, man's words, who is making a mockery of Jesus, the Muslim or the Christian? So you see you as a Muslim, it was very, very unfair that was from you, I would have preferred a Christian to say that, then I could have presented all these things to him.
Going back to the comparative study, in comparison between the Holy Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him and Jesus, Islam.
One aspect of comparison, you didn't, it was all like to ask your opinion on that comparison. And that is one way as a general or majority of Muslims believe
that Jesus Christ did not go on the cross. And he is with God, God raised him, and he is sitting on the right hand side for God, and He will come back to lead the Muslims to a total victory. My question is that if you're comparing the two prophets, and you compare their status, according to their responsibility,
and you give Muhammad peace be upon him a higher responsibility and higher status, then why is it then he died just like you and I, and is buried under the ground while Jesus lives and is raised and lived? And it comes back? And is our responsibility to lead the Muslims who are gone astray? Who are the followers of Islam, and lead them to a total victory which Muhammad could not achieve in his time?
Before you go, are you asking as a Muslim or as a Christian?
It does matter. Because then I can give you proofs according to your background, your experience and mentality. You see you are confusing. You have confused the Muslim idea.
With the Christian idea, with you said and sitting on the right hand of God, I want to know where you got that from, from the house of Islam or from Christianity.
Judaism, Islam, no elder of the Muslim tells you that Jesus is sitting on the right hand of God.
Number one, we do not believe that Christ died. We believe that he was not crucified. videotapes and books are available
on the subject
crucifixion of crucifixion. Whether it was a fiction fit to you in fiction, if I see fit in fiction in so fix up the person on the course and kill him, or was it fit to you in fiction means a fairy tale. And according to the Quranic teaching, when Allah says electabuzz isn't the only follow conjecture, just work fiction, we proven this book from the Christian Bible. The whole story is a fiction.
And if you can get any Bishop, if you can organize an Anglican Bishop or an archbishop, to have this thing debated with me, we are prepared to have the NDC at our expense, and we will give you 10,000 pounds in the bargain, if you can get any Anglican or Roman Catholic bishop or Archbishop to debate the subject with us. in
Birmingham, which is the largest covered Hall in Europe, we are prepared to organize that meeting at our expense and give you 10,000 pounds in the bank with regards
with regards to people waiting for Jesus and make to come and make the muscles of the world,
you see the Chris The Bible tells us that Jesus is coming for a special purpose. And that purpose is found in the Gospel of St. Matthews.
He says that on that day,
on that day, the second coming, Many will say to me on that day.
Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in thy name, and in thy name cast out devils, and in thy name do many mighty works?
Then Jesus says, Then will I profess unto them, I will tell them I never knew you depart from me, he that work iniquity Get away from me, I don't even know you know, that is his purpose. People were misunderstood him, they started worshipping Him as Lord as God instead of the Father in heaven. So he is coming to rectify them. I am not waiting for Jesus. I don't need anything at all. Whatever Allah want to give, he's given it to me. Yeah, in the Quran, the
make it for he can come to teach us you fasting for 30 days, you faster 40 there's nothing he can teach us. The Muslim has, as Allah says in the Quran, at the end, which is absolutely complete. As Allah says, I'll do my utmost to Lacombe nukem, this day I have perfected for your religion
and have completed my favorite thing to you, Islam, Medina, and a world that Islam should be your religion. Everything that Allah wanted to give has given it to us. And we have it and I am not waiting for Jesus, not expect any Muslim to wait for Jesus or for anybody else to help him out.
Little extension of the last question, which was long while ago, but I won't repeat it
I want you to just give me your response to this, you say that there's nobody who can say that the Holy Spirit is given an answer to the problems in the world, not the problems in Britain. Where's the answer that the Holy Spirit has given? And I just like to say and I should be a response to this that.
Okay, you can say that I've found my answer in the Bible, because it just suited me at the time it was something that I've grasped at the time. But I've found something in the Bible, I've got the Quran as well. And I've read about a quarter of it. I'm reading the Quran in English.
But I've found something. I've been to Pakistan as well, I've traveled around a bit and talk to a lot of people. But I've not found anything in the Quran or in Islam, that could replace what I've found in the Bible, which I believe can only be found if you ask God.
Can you please? Yeah, I'd like to hear your response to as a Christian, I believe that in the Bible, there's a deeper answer than saying to a society like Britain, if you all become Muslims and all obey.
Can you please ask the question? Well, my question is, surely this has got to be more than something which is imposed on a society from the outside something that's got to reach into the heart to change us from the inside, and then find that in Islam, I find that you can have some good moral guidelines in Islam, like in other religions, but I don't find in Islam. You just need to tell me where it is, and where I can. I've got with Christ, what Christ has come in and he's changing the nature of what I was before and what time now
Nature change through Islam. Please have the practice over somebody else asking question.
So this question is just so vague. Okay, can you come back to the question? And the question is,
through Muhammad and through the Quran that you've been talking about the difference between Christ and Mohammed, that's the subject.
How could Muhammad give me a change in my heart and the nature so that I could love people? How could he give me that Christ has given me this is what I claim, output Muhammad gives me that what Christ has given me
what his family has done.
This community that you see here,
they have the lowest alcoholic consumption in the country.
This community here, we have our drunkards, and we have our cutthroats, and our gamblers and all, like any other community, but on a percentage basis, there is not another nation on Earth that can show a candle to us in Brotherhood in piety in charity in sobriety, the biggest Society of tea totals in the world of the Muslims, you say you went to Pakistan, I'm sure you must have come across some drunkards, but as a people as a whole, the nation as a whole Muslims, wherever you go, the biggest Society of teetotallers in the world, are Muslims. The least racist of people are the Muslims, the most racist of people are the Christian whites.
As if the Christian whites I didn't say you, as a people as a whole.
Look, here, Jesus Christ said, by the fruits, you shall know them, Do men get a fix from the grave from the pond is that every good tree will be good fruit, and every evil tree will be evil fruit is a by the fruits, you shall know them, judge them by the fruits, judge them, we are not angels, but judge them, and you will have the answer.
I'm a born again Christian, I believe in Jesus Christ, as the Son of God, who was crucified, dead and buried arose. And someone says, At this moment, at the right hand of God, Father, making intercession for one unfollowed I do appreciate your teachings or whatever it may be about the Muslim faith, which I listened and according to what you have said, that those who believe in the Muslim faith should go and win those who believe in Christianity.
I would like to know the reason why you want the Muslim to change the Christians are not the Christians to change the Muslim.
Receive the Christians at the present moment. They are busy throughout the world. There are 70 million sometimes or 70,000 Crusaders, Christian Crusaders are raising the dust in the world. The Christian world has produced more than 60,000 books against Islam from 1800 to 1950. More than 60,000 I was giving all these facts and figures at the previous meeting.
There are some out of the 70,000 missionaries that the Christian world Crusaders that have sent out 60% of Americans 42,000 Americans are raising the dust in the world today. Your churches are busy here in Birmingham, you know, I don't know what the international crusades from Canada, they have now moved to Birmingham. And they changed the name from international crusades to international teams, you know that. And they are now organizing teams of Christian missionaries to work among the Muslims of Birmingham. And I'm sure they're doing it here in platform, Christians of every denomination Look, this young man gave his car, you know, what is a Youth for Christ? He has invited
people to his home. He didn't have the guts of the temerity to ask a question. He wants this innocent people to come along for a cup of tea and biscuits so he can brainwash him. I want to know what he wants them to do at his house when he didn't have the guts to come and ask a single question. So you say you are born again.
And I take it that your profession is preaching. your profession is preaching your occupation is preaching. Yes, yes, we are a preacher. What are you preaching only to Christians? Are you
preaching only to Christians.
I said, Go into all the world, you may ask, we're about Do I go away from England, I will say, being to know where else since I've been
born again, Christian far is just in England here that I became a Christian. But as I go on on the street, there are many who sat in this congregation, who knew me very much for a times I associate with plenty of or people's home that I go and visit them. But my whole aim and desire is, as Christ says, tell it to the world, tell it to the nation, Christ in his loss, going away from the earth, upon to St. john chapter seven, in the pray that his father should glorify Him, He said, No, the time has come, when I will believe in these here, and I pray for them, that you may keep them they are in the world, but not up their word. And he goes on and says, not only these alone, what is a
Let him preach.
opportunity like this will never get again in your lifetime.
You see, this is what what I say this born again, sickness. You don't know the rights of others, people. They're born again. They don't know about the rights. This English man comes along. And he's going around and around in circles. He's not a speaker. He says, anyways, everybody's 10 minutes. You see his one again, everyone that is born again, he comes along to preach and he goes, your question now. Yo, as much as you
as much as you feel that you should share your faith with others, we are commanded more directly to address you. You remember in the verses that I read, as a whole telling them Allah says, Paul, tell them Yeah, hello Kitab Jews and Christians.
See, we are told to call the Jews and you more directly by name, Paolo Illa Kalimantan Sava in benavente, that we come to common terms as between us and you, let us get onto a common platform. And that common platform, the terms and conditions of getting together, ah, number one, Allah Buddha, Allah Allah, that we worship none but Allah, God Almighty, the only God we shall worship is the God the Father in heaven. Not Moses, not David, Solomon, Jesus or Muhammad, but the Father in heaven. Let's worship Him. We said yes, but he's a triangle god, he's three in one. So we are told to tell you well, ah Taku thalassa. Don't say Trinity into Harlequin. This is stuff it will be
better for you in nama La Villa. Why are your God is one God, he's McLean one. So all these instructions are given to us to bring you back to the path because you have drifted away into worshipping the Father in heaven. You're worshiping Jesus, am I right? You are worshiping Jesus, Jesus is your Lord.
Except to Jesus Christ, thank you. You see, this is this is very, very, this is a sickness. what Jesus said was,
he says, I am the way the truth and the life. That's right. No man, come on as a Father but by me. Yes. Now, of course, you know that. But if I asked you what is the context, you don't know the context. You don't you just go to the thing out of text. You see if you quote anything out of context, it's a pretext for breaching what you want to preach. That's what you have been doing? I am asking you or any other Christian that is there. What is the context of that verse?
no man cometh unto the Father but by Me In what sense? In what back with what background did he uttered those words?
Unless the purpose the context, you are English speaking person, maybe from Jamaica, you know, English, you know, what is text? You put the text on the context, the text that goes with it before or after you understand English? Others leave it to somebody who does.
I assume that you believe in prophets, prophets of God.
I do as well.
You believe specially in your Prophet Muhammad is That's correct. Name Muhammad. Yes. Right. You're supposed to be asking questions.
Yeah, you're not acting as a public prosecutor, you know, what have
you asked your question, sir, I will answer your question and finish it. And I will answer, do you believe that we have a profits in these days living on living profits? That's your question. Yes. Thank you. We'll do the back. If you have another question, I will answer that. I will answer that.
Maybe, I don't know in the declaration that I made. There is no prophet after Muhammad.
The last and final messenger of God is Muhammad, they shall be no profit after him. He says La da da da da, there shall be no profit after me. See, the thing is complete, which we believe that the Quran is a complete guidance of God given to mankind. Once the thing is complete, anything you add to it is a monstrosity. This hand yours and mine. Perfect. God made it perfect. You can't add another finger, you can't add another. You can't have 10 more fingers to improve your hand. Anything you add to this perfect hand is a monstrosity. Similarly, in the guidance of God has given to us in the Quran, perfect teaching for all time, all people. You can add a prophet means that person comes
along now and he can change the law. It is God's mouthpiece. Now he has a right to tell you that now you can marry your own mother. You can tell you that if he is a prophet, he can tell you sir, that tells me you can marry your mother You can marry your daughter you can marry your sister.
This is no this will be new prophet after Muhammad. That is what we believe. No prophet after him. small or big, no profit whatsoever. Yes, the next one.
The question is,
can you go back a few plays a song. I have a Muslim.
We Muslim called hazard Hassan s and he has a lot of Christian they call Jesus Christ, I think is important for me to request you that could you let the audience know here and clearly Christian Muslim? What was the religion of Jesus Christ? And what did he thought? He thought Islam are very bad Muslim or non Muslim?
The question was, of course you heard what was the religion of Jesus? The religion of Jesus was Islam. The religion of Moses was Islam. The religion of all true prophets of God is Islam. Because with Allah there is only one religion. He says in Medina in the wild Islam, most certainly the religion acceptable in the sight of Allah Islam. Well, myopathy, higher Islamic dienen following you Bella Minho, if you want a religion other than Islam, Allah will not accept it from from you.
And you will be of the losers, anything else other than Islam. So I said, Now the religion of Moses was Islam, the religion of Jesus was Islam, the religion of speed by Muhammad was Islam, it was nothing but Islam. And the proof of that is,
you ask the Jew,
started as the Jew in our line relationship, we are very closely related to the religion of Moses, Jesus and Mohammed, three are related very close. If Moses was alive with us, and if you asked him or Moses, what is your religion?
I do not expect him to say Judaism. Because this word Judaism is not in a store at is not in the mood is not in his missler
is is nowhere to be found. In Jewish literature. The word Judaism is not to be found. This is a concocted word concocted word. But if Moses was alive, and if you asked him, What is your religion, he would say that my religion is a religion of total submission to God's will.
The lengthy definition, but one word for that in the Arabic language is Islam. Islam means a religion of total submission to God's will. If Jesus was alive with us today, or in the Second Coming if we have a chance to meet him. And if we asked him so Oh, Jesus, what is your religion?
We do not expect him to say Christianity, because if he says Christianity, we can ask him what church you belong to, sir. Are you a Roman Catholic or an Anglican or a Presbyterian or Lutheran or a Jehovah's Witness?
facility for us Jesus.
I expect him to say that my religion is a religion of total submission to God's will.
lengthy definition. One word for that in the Arabic language is Islam. This is what he came to teach. But if the people whose followers they took his religion off the rails, actually, Paul, they are all following Paul. They are not following Jesus. If they follow Jesus, they will be Muslims, Sydney
Jesus was teaching them nothing but Islam.
The Father in heaven, worship Him, they start worshiping Jesus. See, this is not his teaching.
As the Quran tells us testifies on the Day of Judgment, Allah will ask him, Oh, Jesus, did you tell your people to worship you and your mother besides Allah?
Allah, oh my lord, you know, I never did any such thing. As long as I was with them, I was a watcher over them to see that they never did any such blasphemy. But after you took me up, you know what they did. So in a zoom, room ibaka. So if you punish them, they are Your servants are in fact, fine.
But if you forgive them, you are exalted in mind, you are wise, in your wisdom, you can do what you please. But the religion of Jesus was Islam, and he was a Muslim. In the garden of Gethsemane, he, you read in the Bible, that he went there, and he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed to God, he made the sujood and pray to God through my father, Mr. Mahmud, if it be possible, let this capacity for me, but not as I will, but as one word for that, not as I will, but as thou wilt is a Muslim, I have submitted my will to the will of Allah. Jesus was a Muslim. And his reason was
two minutes ago, somebody stood up and said that he thought, you got the impression that you had been marking the Bible. And let's say that, I'm sorry to say this, I also got the same impression.
I will give you an example, though.
You pointed the red letter Bible and show what small quantity
it is highlighted in red. However, there's a large quantity also, which is not highlighted in red, which describes the actions of Jesus Christ, and not the words, it is not equally important.
To say it says, I made a mockery of it was I say, the red letter Bible. In the red letter Bible, everything that Jesus said, Isn't read, and is only 10% of the whole of the New Testament only 10%.
So what is the mockery? I'm telling you that look, this is not the book of Jesus. We Muslims are made to believe that Jesus Christ was given a revelation of
God Almighty inspired him. And that inspiration we call the Injeel. That inspiration which God gave him, and he preached this Injeel, Matthew, Mark, Luke, john, they all tell us that Jesus went to Bradford and he preached the gospel. He went to Blackburn, NDP, for example, Blackburn, he went to Birmingham, and he preached the gospel, gospel gospel gospel again and again, gospel, what was he preaching? Did he have Matthew, Mark, Luke, and john under his arm?
Did you have Matthew, Mark, Luke and john x? Peter Paul, James Corinthians Philippians Galatians. Getting under his arm? Is that what he was doing? No, whatever he was preaching was from God. And that message which he preached, we say the engine, and that even if we accept every word and read
every word of yours in radio spawners, they have brought this about every word in read, we find is only one 10th of this New Testament, when 10 90% is words of other people, they're talking about him, not quoting even a single verse 21, out of 27 books, not one word is even quoted of Jesus.
I can speak up.
Basically, you posed to me by your debate, you actually posed a certain problem to me, in the sense that I understood that the Bible is itself in itself, a revelation.
And yet, and yet it's been revealed through this debate that a lot of it is actually based on massive contradiction and factual error. Do I then have to read the Quran thoroughly and then filter through I basically want you to advise me Do I have to read the Quran and filter through that, which I believe is to be the tenants of the Christian faith as well? In other words, do I only believe that which is referred to as the Salah Salaam in the Quran, as to be the teachings of Christian Christianity?
The everything that the Quran tells us, we believe is Allah, Allah. So whatever he tells you that look, Jesus didn't preach these things,
that Jesus Christ didn't die. He was not killed, nor was he crucified.
That's what Allah says. But now we can prove it from the Christians own book.
You see what the Quran says grant says, There is no Trinity. So the Christian says, Yeah, my King James Version open. first episode two of john chapter five.
Verse seven. So you open
is a read. So you read
it says four, there are three, four, there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word and the Holy Ghost. And these three are one. Here's my Trinity.
Is there in his book?
Now what you're going to say?
So this is Wait a minute, who produced this book, Christian scholars, fifth major revision Christian scholars, but you have here another Bible, called the Revised Standard Version
who produced this, but the two scholars have the highest eminence backed by 50 cooperating denominations of Christian then they produce this. What does this book do? Is it this one here goes through the most ancient manuscripts. This Roman Catholic version goes to the ancient manuscripts, the King James Version goes to the ancient manuscripts, ancient means four to 600 years after Jesus, most ancient means 300 years after Jesus, so the most ancient will be most authentic. If we had something 100 years after Jesus is still more authentic, even the time of Jesus, something was
still more authentic, if Christ wrote it himself, no doubt whatsoever.
This goes to closes to the period.
Third thing that third century of the Christian era, in this now you open is thrown out as a fabrication who threw it out, Muslims, Muslims were telling them you're supposed to uphold them, while otaku salasar doing security stop, it will be better for you. That is what we're supposed to do. We didn't but they to get out of the RSV as a fabrication
coming closer to us, they say that Jesus didn't matter. Somebody came along. JOHN 316. He quoted in different words, says For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that he should die for them to save you. This would be gotten, Allah tells us to tell them, let me read William EULA, he does not get in is not forgotten.
There is no way he brings it here. JOHN 316. Open this going back to the most ancient manuscript, there would be cotton is thrown out, is no more there is a Congratulations, man, look you come into but you dragging your feet, the Anglican Church more than 50% of the bishops, they say to the church members, that you do not have to believe that Jesus is God anymore. You don't have to believe that is what we are trying to tell them.
That is what we have been trying to tell them all along that Jesus is not God, more than 50% of the bishop, they are telling their flock now that look, you don't have to believe that Jesus is God. That means they coming closer to us. The trouble with this is that we are not taking advantage of this opening that they're giving to us. They are dragging the feet, you encourage them to come quicker into the house of Islam to save themselves. This is what we are supposed to do. Now. Look, the thing is they're
the Bible. They are changing, changing, but they're coming closer to us. They're taking out the fabrications, they are adulterations the interpolation, they're taking it out. And they said they're coming closer, but they're dragging their feet, we have to encourage them to walk a little faster because time is running out too fast.
Earlier on you use earlier on use the word out of polygon, which was like graffiti. Does that mean Thou shalt not false?
I think you're referring to the Quranic verse I quoted la casa de which means there is no compulsion in religion, in matters of religion, you can't force anybody to accept your D. There is a Hindu is an atheist, a Christian Jew, whoever it is, we have no right suppose we were in a position
to fall force people. We are not to force anybody that is what the message of the Quran is. That means Thou shall not force nothing.
alone is Islam means peace and submission.
live in peace and you submit to God. Right now, there's a sect in Pakistan called the MD
by the mullahs. Why you say there is no compulsion in religion. But if you have a nation of immunity, and one of you is a traitor
in any state, any state
He used to do certain things wrong. You get caught for speeding, you get caught you run over somebody culpable homicide, that's not considered as murder. But if you have treason against the state, which is something unforgivable
Hitler wanted invade Britain. And one of you britisher was in with the, with the German intelligence and passing over information in the firing squad.
very compassionate people, the British very loving people use the word Hitler, that means the dictatorship, whatever. The fact is, that anytime you collude with the enemy, the outsider, if you're gonna undermine your own community, that crime is a crime of collusion against the community and the community can forgive.
you cannot judge other people
are judging yourself, look, I have no right to judge. But when you come to me and tell me says there is another prophet has come after Muhammad, you're breaking the unity of the Muslim ummah. That means now you are a traitor to my brotherhood.
I most sincerely and found the core of my heart. Thank you all for your contribution. The session is now closed and you are asked to leave as quietly as possible. We will be now going back to the hotel