Ahmed Deedat – Jesus Pbuh Beloved Prophet Of Islam
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Behold, God will say, Oh Jesus, son of Mary, did this still say to mankind worship Me and my mother as gods in derogation of God.
Jesus would say,
glory to thee.
Never could I say, what I had no right to say.
Had I said such a thing. You would indeed have known it
because you know what is in my heart
but I know not what in line
and you know
That is hidden.
Never said I, to them
any art, except that what you did command me to say.
And I was a witness,
and I was a witness among them. And when you did pick me up,
you were the wheelchair over them.
Because you,
you are a witness to all things.
If you punish them,
they are Your servants.
If you forgive them, then you are the Almighty
and wise.
God says, this is a day in which truthful will profit from truth.
To them will be gardens underneath which rivers are flowing
their eternal homes,
Allah, or God is well pleased with them, and they are with him.
And that is
the great salvation.
Ladies and gentlemen, again, we welcome you on this very special night.
As most of you know who is Pat Robinson. And many of you also know about Billy Graham.
All of them are great people who devoted their lives for learning.
Another person
is Jimmy swagger.
He is indeed a great human being.
And most of the humans or a lot to such people, because they devote their lives to learning.
Jimmy swagger
invited
our speaker tonight for a debate three days ago.
And the debate
was taped
and will be available. If anybody interested. He may contact
the MSA
branch in the Islamic center of Tucson or he could ask any of the gentleman over there and he will be provided with whatever information he would like.
Mr. De that is a well known scholar,
a man of international repute, he is indeed a dominant figure in his field.
It is really
a rare chance to have such a man to speak
to us here and let us benefit for his knowledge.
Mr. dieded will be lecturing here for approximately about an hour. And then after the lectures, they will be a session for questions and answers.
I would request everybody to remain seated and count if possible, to let the others get the benefit of his knowledge. For the questions and answers, period. The questions we will give priority for the verbal questions that say if you have a question, there are two mics, one of the left hand side right in front of you and the other one on the right hand side.
Right in front of you there. So you kindly step forward and stand in front of the mic and make a cue there.
If you have more than one question, then ask one question and then go to the back of the queue. And then when the chance comes, ask the other question but please
Don't give us another lecture here. We are here to listen to one lecture. And if you would like to give us another lecture, then arrange for it and invite us and we would be delighted to be here and hear your lecture. But please do ask one question and limit the question to one minute or less if possible.
Now, ladies and gentlemen, without wasting most of your time, I will let our brother Medina speak for you
Alhamdulillah
wa salatu wa salam O Allah Maulana ba bada
a la jolla Makati hula BB,
BB, we are a little higher in the vocal to La Casa Bella al Amin. VO for widow mo de la la in a la basura mealybug.
Mr. Chairman, and burn
it gives me great pleasure
to share with you
some knowledge
on the subject of
two pictures of Jesus, two pictures of Jesus Quranic and biblical
to my non Muslim brothers. This might seem strange,
that I'm saying that there are two pictures, there is a picture of Jesus Christ in the Quran. And the Christians have a picture of Jesus Christ in the Bible, and I am going to try in the short space of time that is given to me to do justice to the subject,
Quranic and biblical
in the Holy Quran.
In chapter three, verse 42,
we are told about the Annunciation
and the status of Jesus Christ.
It begins
chapter three verse 42, it begins Bismillahi Rahmani Raheem. In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
What is on Attila mala, aka to Yama, Yama.
It says, Behold, the angel said, Oh Mary,
in LA has difficulty what the hierarchy was. Inside Allah mean that God Almighty has chosen the and purified the chosen the above the women of all nations.
Yama, Yama, lira. Viki was busy working in so many worship dialogue, devoutly prostrate thyself and bow down in prayer with those who bow down.
Valley come in ambala ab, Laika that this is part of the tidings of the things I've seen which we reveal him to the apostle by in spiritual Valley come in ambala.
Rama consolidation is una plum
yaku Maria ma lahmacun tala de him is your posse moon. It says you will not with them, or Muhammad, when they cast last with arrows as to which of them shall be charged with the care of Mary. Nor was that with them when they disputed the point.
The background to these verses is this,
that the mother of Mary,
she had vowed that if God Almighty gave her a child, she would dedicate that child for temple services.
Feeling and believing that God Almighty will grant her a son.
journey for a son a male issue.
God heard her prayer and a child was born. And it happened to be a female. And a female is very much unlike a male for temple services. She was disappointed
naturally. But according to her vow, as soon as a child grew up to be big enough to look after herself, she takes this child to the temple, the Temple of Jerusalem,
offering this child services to the people who are serving God. And when these people saw this child, this beautiful child, everybody was clamoring to be the godfather of this child. You know, it's a Western connotation.
Godfather
mean somebody who look after the child as a guardian.
People were clamoring the police were clamoring.
So this is not the way to solve this problem is everybody wants to own that
Hail,
Mary.
So they started casting lots like head or tail, you know, we do head or tail, you pass the coin.
So the cast had lots according to the practice of the time. And it came to the turn of Zechariah that he was the fortunate person
to be the Godfather to this child. And there was a dispute as always, in things of this nature, you know, when you throw the dice, and if the dice was four sixes, no, no, you cheated, you know, says, you know, we do that this is human nature, and there was a dispute about the throwing of the dice.
So God Almighty reminds Muhammad, and in other ways informing us that how do you know all these things are Muhammad? We How did this knowledge come to you? We're not there when they cast lots with arrows, nor were you there, when they disputed the point? Where did this knowledge come to you from? So God Almighty as shows him is assuring us that this is one himself? This knowledge is given to him by God?
But our Christian Brethren, they will say, no, this is not from God. This is Mama's own creation. This is his own concoction, the Quran.
See, because they do not believe in this revelation.
They say that the Bible is the last and final revelation of God, though it doesn't say so.
The Muslim claims that the Quran is the last will and testament of God.
There is a dispute and we tried to settle that dispute.
You know, with regards to the Bible, this Monday just gone by Monday, the third in Baton Rouge. A debate took place between myself and brother Jimmy Swaggart, one of the
most prominent evangelist in the Western world today. He appears on more than 700 TV commercial stations. And as he says himself in his own book, his his 1000s of cable channels. He's the most prominent in Christian them today.
And amazing personality.
Charming people him and his wife. I met them both and I love them dearly. We had this debate and I understand I was given that understand it will be also a through your some of your TV channels in your city very soon through the Jimmy Swaggart ministry.
But then coming to the point
about
this picture of Jesus in the Quran.
God says that this is from me to you. The Christian says no, this is Muhammad's creation.
So let us analyze what I have just read to you. You see at the very first verse that I read to you, God Almighty, is telling us through Mohammed telling us that Mary was a woman, chosen by God Almighty, about the women of all nations.
This is enshrined in the Quran, Mary, the mother of Jesus, a woman about the women of all nations.
So the question arises, why would Muhammad say such a thing?
That he is honoring the mother of his opposition, if there is such a thing there isn't. Muhammad belongs to the same brotherhood of the prophets of God, Moses, David Solomon, Jesus, Mohammed is a brotherhood of prophethood.
But from the Christian point of view, Muhammad is an opposition, he is a challenger,
to the integrity and position of Jesus, but not this person is telling the world Muslims as well as non Muslims, that marry the mother of Jesus. She was chosen about the women of all nations.
And this is telling in the first instance to his own people.
Because Mohamed, he will admit, was an Arab.
He was not an Indian. I'm an Indian of Indian extraction. I come from South Africa. We have some Sudan, his brother and from Africa. We have some Malay brother and from Indonesia, Malaysia.
He wasn't speaking to them. He was speaking to his own people, the Arabs, and he was telling them that not every Arab woman, not his own mother, or his wife or his daughter,
which was was chosen about the women in the foreign nations, but marry the mother of Jesus, a mother of his opposition, am asking people, the missionaries, please account for that. Why would an Arab go out of his way to provoke other Arabs
telling them that is
a woman from a nation that has been looking down upon them for 3000 years,
a nation that was looking down upon the Arabs for 3000 years. They keep on repeating that Father Abraham had two wives, Sarah, and Sarah. This is Sarah and Hagar.
And they say that Sarah was his legitimate wife.
But hajra was a bond woman as Lieberman.
And her children, they disparagingly described as the Hungarians, the children of hada. Hungarians is a new term they have invented the missionaries. And in the books, they say, Islam is not Islam, which means that religion of peace, but they say it's hugger ism.
You know, a religion of the children of Hagia Hagar ism.
This is how they call us.
Arabs or Hungarians, and the religion of Islam is algorism.
They have been looking down upon the Arabs, as the children of that born woman, that slave woman.
And even today, the Jews look down upon the Arab peasants, they still look down 3000 years they have been looking down upon these people. And yet this mighty messenger of God, he honors this dress, as is please account for that. Why would an Arabic go out of his way? He's going out of his way to provoke his own people and honor a jewess explain that unless he was commanded from a higher source, because on the human level, from the human point of view to me, there is no woman better than my mother, or my wife or my daughter. Why yours My opponent, my opposition, why?
And it continues was 45
Why is palatal Malika Maria mo Behold, the angel said Oh Mary, in Allah ha you by shiraki Kalamata men who, that God Almighty gives you glad tidings of a word from him.
A word from him. And the Christians say that Jesus is the Word of God. Muslim says, Yes, Jesus is the Word of God. This module Merci, his name will be the Messiah, translated Christ.
This module mercy. Mariama, Jesus, the son of Mary, where she hung with dunya Well, ophira Harold, in honor in this world, and in the Hereafter, woman, Alma carabin, and of the company of those lawyers to God,
as the Christians would say, sitting on the right hand of God.
Now we Muslims would agree with that, but qualified by saying that right hand of God does not mean physically, does not mean geographically. Because if God is spirit, the Bible says, God is spirit, and those that worship Him must worship Him in truth and in spirit, not in form, shape or size, as a spiritual being who permeates the whole universe, the things that we can imagine, and situations we can imagine. He permeates everything everywhere. Where is his right hand? This is no, it means in status, in stature, he is closest to God. You see, in eastern terminology, a person of my right hand is the person from whom I take my advice. My president, my Chairman, or my prime minister, on my
right hand, he might be sitting on my left hand, he might be sitting behind me, but he's on my right hand, meaning a place of importance.
This is the status of Jesus in the company of those mirrors to God, where you can demo NASA, and He will speak to the people will match the vocabulary in childhood and the majority woman, a solid man, and he shall be of the company of the righteous. When this good news was given to marry the mother of Jesus, she naturally responds she was not married at the time.
I don't know whether she was married afterwards. In Islamic tradition, we know nothing about her and Joseph the carpenter. We know nothing about that relationship.
But we know as we are told
that she was not married at the time, so she naturally responds. She says Carla turabian nakoula Don Williams has been Basha. She said, Oh my Lord, how shall I have a son when no man has touched me?
Physically sexually. In response to that, the angel replies Pilate as Alec Allahumma. Shah Masha said, Even so, Allah creates what He wills
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Doesn't matter, he really says we'd be energy is for God to create a Jesus without a human father, just like that, for him to create a million Jesus's without father without mother, just like that. But if he creates a million Jesus's without father and mother who's going to nurse them,
but he can, by his act of will, he can create million Jesus without father without mother, millions of atoms without father without mother.
And the Muslims believes that so Jesus was created.
He was created by the act and rule of God.
And this word, this word of God, the Muslim said, is not God.
The Word of God is not God, the Christian agrees with us, up to a point.
He believes with us, he shares with us this thought
that everything God created was by his world. In the book of Corinthians, we are told, by faith we know that the heavens and the earth were created by the word of God, and that the things visible came through the force invisible. In other words, the invisible force and will and plan of God brought everything to be.
So the Christian agrees that is, so God created like in the beginning, the book of Genesis chapter one, it is said that God said,
Let us make man, he also said, Let there be light, and there was light.
He said, Now he said, this word, we take no exception that is said, but not literally not literal. In others, he will. Is this ever human language you say? He said, but he didn't say it with a mouth like mine.
He didn't utter the words sun. And the sun came into being moon, and the moon came into being galaxies, and men, and animals and plants, you know, millions and millions of thing is uttering the words what he wants. No, God doesn't do that. He wills it and the thing comes into being, but according to our human limitation, we say he said, everything is His Word. So we said, the Word of God is not God. It is his word, as my words are not me, they are mine. I say,
my word, but I'm not.
A pen is my word, but I'm not a pen. See, your words, and you are two different things. The God and His Word are separate thing. They are his, but they are not him.
The Christian agrees
through him through except he makes an exception. Now, he said, No, in the case of Jesus, the Word of God is God. I said, that is a Hindu idea. This is actually Hindu philosophy, the philosophy of my ancestors, they were Hindus, they believe that the word of God is God. Therefore, they do not hesitate in worshipping God Almighty in the form of a man or a woman or a monkey or an elephant. All these things, they add consistency, the Word of God is God, do we not see God in the cow? Well, God is there is not absent from anywhere. So said, We worship Him in that form, is not in the elephant.
So well, he's everywhere. He permits, everything's so well, we worship Him in that form.
And on and on, see that's Hindu, he philosophizes his logic is very good, but that is Hindu philosophy that the word of God is God. The Christian agrees, except that exceptions are no in the case of Jesus, His Word is him recently, his word is not him. It is his, but it is not he.
Now, this idea that God created Jesus, by his act of will, his word,
is unanimously accepted in Islam. You see, Islam happens to be the only non Christian faith, which makes it an article of faith for his followers to believe in Jesus. No Muslim is a Muslim, if he does not believe in Jesus.
What we are made to believe is that Jesus Christ was one of the mightiest messengers of God. We are made to believe and we accept that he was the Messiah, the mercy, translated Christ. We believe in his miraculous birth, that he was born without any male intervention. And we believe that he gave life to the dead by God's permission, and he healed those born blind and the lepers by God's permission.
We are going together. The only Parting of the Ways between the Muslim and the Christian is the divinity of Christ.
That Jesus is gone. We say we are made to say that Jesus is not God.
They say that Jesus is the only begotten Son of God. We say that God does not beget, this is the dividing line.
If we can understand each other's respective points of views, I know that my Christian brothers are sincere,
they are sincere in the love
and feeling for Jesus or and reverence for Jesus, they place in on the state of divinity, that is God Almighty has come down to earth as a man, he is God incarnate. We said that again is a Hindu idea.
This is a Hindu idea in our in a Hindu idea is not somatic, somatic meaning that in the religion of Moses, Jesus and Muhammad, these are Semites.
Father, Abraham, his children, they are Semitic people. Among the Semites, this idea of God becoming a man is unknown. Among the Semites, this is an Aryan idea.
My ancestors, they believed that Rama was the seventh incarnation of God, Rama.
Krishna was the eighth incarnation of God. Buddha was the ninth incarnation of God, and they believe in endless incarnations that God Almighty keeps on coming into the world, again, and again, as a man as the need arises,
is the same God, one God, but that God in history, he comes into the world in different forms.
Endless incarnations, because they reason my cousins, my answers is the reason. And the logic was very good
about this idea of Indonesia, but becoming a man. They said, you see God Almighty, He saw God so holy, his absolute holiness like holy Robo.
Now, what does this holy Robo know? how I feel? When I see a beautiful young thing? What does he know? I'm 69. You know, to you, father, grandfather, uncle? Yes. But what does he know how I feel, even now at the age of 69, when I see a shapely thing, but does he know how I feel? What right has he to tell me?
That thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife? What does he know what is to COVID.
So to be qualified, he must come down to earth
is born like any other human child, and is growing. In the absence of his father, somebody is trying to make love his mother is too small to do anything about it. But you know how he feels. As he's growing. Somebody is trying to make love to his sister, he know how he feels he's married. Now somebody wants to take his wife out, he know how he feels. So he's qualified to tell you, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife is qualified.
That is the Hindu philosophy, the logic of God becoming a man.
It is like some cynics said about His Holiness, the Pope, when he made his pronouncement on the pill, about birth control, is telling people you can take the pill, but you know, you must find out fertile period in fertile period.
You know, when you come together with your wife, you must know fertile in fertile period. So somebody remarked, he said the guy who doesn't play the game, what right has he to lay down the rules?
Does the poor play the games we play does he know then what he has to tell us? When in when.
So similarly, my Hindu cousins reason that God Almighty also he must become a man to understand the problem of man.
Logic, very logical. The Christian says, look before Jesus God did not incarnate after Jesus, He will not incarnate he's the only incarnation in the only time that God came into the world as a man he came came in the form of Jesus Christ.
The Muslim he says that God does not incarnate at all.
He doesn't have to become a man to understand the problem of man. The Creator knows what he has created.
If I made this table, I know what the table is. I don't have to become a table to understand the table.
If I made this microphone, I know what I made. I'm qualified to tell you how to use it. If I made the false walk me through. I don't have to become a false awesome, beautiful to understand to tell you about the false Watson beetle. If I made it, I know what it is. And I can tell you how to use that machine of mine that I made.
Similarly, we say God Almighty, He made things he knows his creation and is qualified to tell you how to and how not to how not to abuse this machine of is disqualified. God does not incarnate he doesn't become a man to understand the problem of a man. The maker knows what he has made. What he does is
He chooses a man from among men, one of us flesh and blood in all respects. But that person is so finely attuned. He's so sincere to God.
That God Almighty communicates with him on a highest spiritual level. What do you call revelation is like the electromagnetic waves of the spiritual world. This person, our brother, he received, he hears, we are sitting by his side, but we don't have to pause
to apprehend those messages. He hears them on a higher level, and he can read them to us on a human level. 600 miles an hour somewhere,
not steal, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife, and on and on. He's telling us on a human level, this is such a person is a prophet of God is a mouthpiece of God. He's speaking the words of God, but he's not God. Anyone?
None of them. every prophet of God, we love respect and revere reverence. But we say they are speaking God's words, but they are not gods. This is the Muslim Stan. He doesn't say to the Hindu, he says, look, Rama is not God. Krishna is God. But mama is God. He doesn't know the Christian is. Jesus is not God. But Muhammad is God. No, he says nothing of the time. He said, there are all his creatures. We must love them, respect them, revere them, follow them, but worship remember God, the Father in heaven, who is the real God.
So Messiah, mercy, Jesus is the Messiah, he is the mercy translated Christ. Now this expression Christ,
does that make him into a god the Christians thinks that this would Christ He is the Christ. He they think in that this is some type of a term to describe God in human form. Know, what is Christ
coming from the word Hebrew word, Messiah, Arabic, mercy, coming from the root word Messiah ha in Arabic and Hebrew, Messiah harmonies to refer to massage glenoid.
priests and kings were anointed in consecration to their offices, sees like the coronation ceremony, or like your graduation ceremony.
priests and kings in the good old days they used to be anointed with holy oil or with waters from today you are a mom, you are a priest, or from today you are a ruler, Kings, sovereign priests and kings, this thing was done to them. So we have the word Messiah means no instead means appointed. That's what it means appointed by God.
So Jesus was a person appointed, anointed by God. The respectful, respectful position.
And this is not a unique term in the Bible, in the Quran, it is unique in, in the Quran, he is the only one mentioned by that term, that Lika that title, I see, only Jesus. But in the Bible, this is a very common expression.
Messiah, mercy. You read there in the Bible, in this book of mine, Christ, Islam, I don't know whether they are available here, but from South Africa, we give them free we have printed over 200,000 so far free distribution.
I give you references
so many references from the Bible,
where this word is used for other beings and things and things.
Not only humankind, but inanimate objects.
No instead the words you find is no internet. No internet is the priests were anointed, the horns of the anointed you know they were the crown lightnings old fashioned, they used to have horns on to show that how fears the ways it was ruled his horns were anointed pillars pillars you know column column, where no internet columns were anointed. His his pots and pans pots and pans were no instead.
What is this intead pots and pans.
Hebrew, the Hebrew Bible, the word is Messiah. pots and pans when Messiah pillars were Messiah, made Messiah of pillars.
pillar Messiah, your pots, pots, pots and pans. They are the latest cuckoo in cooking.
You see sometimes no common terms and I get puzzled to see because people might not have heard expressions like chalk and cheese. And I've been to Canada I found difficulty. You see among the English speaking peoples in Britain and in the colonies. Chopping cheese is a common expression. You know, chocolate, the white chops of Dover, you know, Cliffs of Dover, they know that is made of chalk and
We used to use Blackboard on which is right with chalk. So in Canada I'm talking about chalk and cheese means poles apart. You know they look alike chalk and cheese might look alike but you can't eat chalk but you can eat cheese in suppose apart they look alike and they didn't know what I was talking about. Somebody had to draw my attention said these people don't know what chalk and cheese is they know crayons is a crayon, they talk about crayon. They're talking about chalk writing on the blackboard, difficultly pots and pans. You people understand pots and pans you know vessels that you use for cooking.
I'm glad I'm not it can happen I'm speaking English but maybe is of a type that you might not be you know, used to.
So pots and pans were anointed in Hebrew Messiah in Greek Christos
Christos, from which we get the word Christ. They made Christ out of pots and pans, they made Christ out of pillars, and a pagan by the name of Cyrus in the book of Isaiah chapter 45, verse one, God says, It is I who have surname v. What Christ I call you, Christ, Messiah.
That Butoh does not know me into Kapha you polytheist you pagan, you don't know me. He doesn't recognize God as the one and only God. You don't know me. yet. I have my no into Cyrus my no into in.
In Hebrew, Messiah, in Greek, Christos, a pagan God was in Christ.
Is God Almighty, cosmic pagan and
a polytheist? Christ. So what does it mean? The thing is that a game is being played by our translators of the Bible, whenever it refers to other beings or things. They use the word no internet, no internet, no internet, so you're not associating with Messiah, Messiah, Christ, Christ, can you see is that game they play in translating?
So I said, you see this word Messiah, or Christ doesn't mean God. If God can use that term for pagans, for pots and pans, for horns, four pillars, has said, What is Christ? No, we say, look, this is a respectful term we give to Jesus. He's anointed, appointed by God. He is a genuine man of God. But he's not God.
The birth of Jesus born without a human father, as that does not make him into a god. Because in the Bible,
as I called greater than Jesus on that level, at question time, you have the privilege of asking me who, where and I show you from the Bible, that there are others greater than Jesus, on the basis of birth, greater than Jesus, who deserves more worship and Jesus in the Christian Bible.
This is our main point of difference, not the Quranic picture is that when Jesus when the Annunciation was made, she says, How can this thing be when I know not?
The biblical version is
we read in the Gospel of St. Luke the very same story.
almost identical. When the good news was given to marry the mother of Jesus. She says, How can this thing be when I know not a man in the Quran? When the woman had touched me, both meaning the same thing is only a choice of words.
choice of words, meaning the same thing 100%, meaning the same thing. I knew not a man or woman has touched me, meaning sexually, I've had no relationship. How can I have a child in the Quran, we are told cone, a cone B. And it was, the Bible says when she uttered those words, that the Holy Ghost will come upon the
the Holy Ghost will come on you and the power of the most I will overshadow the
You see, I had gone to Johannesburg on one occasion. Johannesburg is the City of Gold in South Africa. It is largest inland city in the world. No river mercy, the largest in the world. Johannesburg, remember that? It's in my country, inland city.
There are hundreds of other cities bigger than Johannesburg. But they are all on the river are all by the sea. This is the Inland Sea the largest. So I wanted to buy an Indonesian Bible. I was about to go to Indonesia. That was on my trip. When I had come here in 1977, excuse me.
In 1977, I was here and had delivered a toxin. We're here in Tucson.
In Phoenix, Arizona.
There isn't a Phoenix, Phoenix, here and on. I wasn't elected to it, but I was on my way to America, to Indonesia.
And I have a habit that if I go to a new country, I try to learn the language of the native of the place. Somehow, it opens up their hearts to me, if I can utter some of the words in their language, you know, it's human nature, you know, you can get into the heart of a man better through his mother tongue, then in a foreign language. So I wanted to have some knowledge of Indonesian. And I have an idea of getting this side sort of thing, by getting the Bible in that language. See, because I know the Christian Bible, English Bible, extensively by heart to such an extent that people often you know, asked me, Do you, are you half as old Bible? Have you become half as you know, the whole Bible
by heart as an adult? The Quran says, No, I'm not half as.
So if I want to learn a language, I won't get a Bible in that language, what I know in English, I look for it in their foreign language. So I wanted an Indonesian Bible, the Bible house in Durban didn't have it. So when I went to join this book, I went to the Bible Society. And I was browsing through picked up a Bible, I wanted a type of
new type new version, that I picked up a Greek English translation of the New Testament, quite an expensive book. While I was doing that,
the supervisor was watching me. You know, with my strange headgear, and my beard, he was quite intrigued to find me handling those expensive volumes. So he walked up to me.
And he started a conversation wanted to know what made me interested in this Greek, English,
New Testament.
So I gave him to understand that I am a student of comparative religion, and I can see I found something there that will be of help to me, so I'm interested. And he got interested in me says, Would you like to come and have a cup of tea with me? It's a privilege for me. So he took me into his office, wondering more about me. So I started explaining that you see, we believe in Jesus.
All that I told you, one of the mightiest messengers of God, His miraculous birth is many miracles. And I started reading these verses from the Quran. Why is Carla Tirumala Katya Maria, behold, the angel said, Oh, Mary, and on and on, and the translation and the translation. And I gave that if God wants to create his alpha Omron find nama Kula, who is when he wants to create email lists with B entities. When I have come up to that stage, he said, Look, this is the same as my Bible has no doubt. On the face of it, it's identical.
If a Christian of any church or denomination, if he came across these verses of the Bible, in English, without the Arabic text side by side, in 1000 years, you'll never get this reading the Quran,
a Christian, any Christian scholar, or as a missionary, we had known beforehand what the Muslims believe. But if a page of this translation that I'm giving you was found on the floor, and he picks it up any Christian, whether Jehovah's Witness, Roman, Catholic, Anglican, Presbyterian, Lutheran, anyone, you pick up this and you read it,
it says,
Behold, the angel said, or marry God, given the glad tidings of a word from him, his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Barry held in honor in this world, and in the Hereafter, the end of the company of those nearest to God, and He will speak to the people in childhood and in maturity, and he shall be of the company of the righteous. She says, How can this thing be, and I know not a man, the angel says in reply, says even so God creates what He wills. Whenever he decrees a matter, he merely says to be, and it is, this is, this is something familiar, very familiar.
But I didn't read this before in my Bible. So maybe this is the Roman Catholic version of the Bible. If you haven't read one, maybe this is a Jehovah's Witness version of the Bible. If you haven't read it, maybe this is the Autodesk version of the Bible. If you haven't read it, he never just is reading the Quran will never guess in 1000 years so close. I said yes in the face of it the same but as you know if you compare it closely is the difference of chalk and cheese. chalk and cheese that's well it's a chalk and cheese.
He said How? So I started explaining says look in the Quran, we are told for God to create He wills it.
In the Bible, we are told that the Holy Ghost will come upon Mary how how how is it gonna come on ha ha. And the power of the must have been overshadow her. She overshadowed the how,
how? As a man or an animal, how does he overshadow Xena, we know it doesn't mean that but the language is so down to earth.
earthly that you are giving the atheist and agnostic testing to beat you with how did the Holy Ghost come upon her.
And in the gospels in matches we are told that before they came together Joseph and Mary as husband and wife, she was found with child by the Holy Ghost, he had done the job, Holy Ghost, he planted the language is so down to earth earthly.
The Quran says, ye Zapata amarin, fine nama yaku.
For him to do to create anything, he merely wills it, and it comes into being. So between these two versions, there are two versions of the birth of Jesus, there are two pictures Quranic and biblical as which would you prefer to give to your daughter.
So he bowed his head down in shame. And he said, I would prefer to give the Quranic version of the birth of Jesus.
We are told before we come to this, of the birth, he says that he will speak to the people in childhood in maturity,
as an infant, as well as as a mature man.
And now we have a confirmation of this happening. This is a miracle that as an infant, a child can speak is a miracle.
We read in Surah Maria, Maria means Mary, there is a chapter in the Holy Quran in honor of the name of the mother of Jesus Christ, Maryam Mary, there is not a book in the Bible, which is a library of 66 books of the Protestants and 73 books of the Roman Catholics. 73 books inside is the library is an encyclopedia. This is an encyclopedia of 73 books. This is an encyclopedia of 66 books.
There is not one book named Mary in honor of the mother of Jesus there isn't. You have Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy, Matthew, Mark, Luke, john x, Paul, Peter, Corinthian Philippians Galatians. But there's no mystery here. In this Quran is enshrined a chapter called Surah Maryam chapter, Mary, in honor of the name of the mother of Jesus Christ.
We never take His holy name, the name of Jesus or her holy name, the mother of Jesus, without respectfully saying has read Isa Ali Salam review, Jesus May peace be upon him.
All the prophets of when Israel has read, Musa alayhis salam revered Moses May peace be upon him has read Tao la Salaam, via David May peace be upon him without saying has revealed or saying peace be upon him if a Muslim learned man scholar among us delivering lectures to us, and if he said Isa, Jesus will kick him out. Ron could barbarian Is this how you take the name of a mighty messenger of God? Isa, what Isa? Isa is Jesus.
Musa Musa Yes, we have so many musasa among us, but when we take the name of the Holy Prophet Moses, we say, Musa alayhis salam, this is how we talk. Maria, Elena salam, you know, peace be upon her. Maria. Take her name with reverence son's name with reverence. Chapter, a whole chapter dedicated to her in the Quran. in that chapter, we are told that after the birth of Jesus, the birth being peculiar in that this child was born without a human father, she returns she had retired to a remote place in the East according to the Quran, and after the birth of the child, she returns.
Chapter 19 Surah Maryam describes for the d tau Maha tamela, who says at length she brought the baby to her people carry him in our arms. Ba Lu, they said, Yeah, Maria mucho, la casa
de sus. truly an amazing thing has abroad shocked. We knew full well that you're not married. And now you come across come with a child shamelessly buried in the village, an illegitimate child of the Haruna or sister of Harun
Makana, Abu Kim rasa when mama cannot
see your father was not a man of evil, nor was the mother a woman and chase How have you brought this child without a father
alleging that is illegitimate?
What can she do? How can she explain? They were in no mood to listen to her. They say you know I heard some voices.
And God had given me that good news and the child was born
within a mood to listen to such kind of trash from the point of view where they know would you be prepared to listen to your sister telling you that it says you know Brother, you know I heard some voices.
Now, this is the ninth month now.
I was asking a missionary last night
one of Jimmy Swaggart, ministers, you know, teacher in his college, he was giving out his Christian literature in our meeting.
Most uncouth kind of behavior. You go to somebody else's meeting, you take unfair advantage of them, giving your literature pushing down people's throats, arguing debating them in the audience before the meeting, and after the meeting is uncalled for uncalled for us Muslims to go to churches, and doing that is uncalled for. You don't do things like that. He has every right to call people to your home.
Talk to them, give them t refreshments share with them your knowledge, by all means. But you don't do that you don't take unfair advantage of other people's meetings, you will sponge upon people because of the good nature. Here is the man. And at the outside after the end of the meeting. He started arguing and debating with me. So I'm asking him, I suppose. So look, the Quran says that Jesus was born miraculously, we accept lead. I want you to explain why would Muhammad come and tell us all these things? Because the easiest thing for a man to do to get rid of your opposition is to ridiculous, man. So what are you talking about?
A child was born without a husband without a father.
If your sister comes and tells you, I just described to you now that she's carrying a baby, and she heard voices will you believe her? You know, she never spoke Li in her life. As far as you never know. She tells me she heard why you believe your mother. I'm telling you, your mother. In the absence of your father, she said she had a dream
about her husband, and now she's carrying this baby. Do you believe as a young mother, he says maybe maybe your mother.
She said I dreamed of your father coming along and cohabiting with her. And now she's carrying a baby. You believe that? And this guy is a teacher in the college. He said maybe mid season.
I said this is your moron. You're a moron. You know moron. Is zombie. This is zombies and being cultivated. You can talk like that. That maybe your mother you know she had a dream and she's getting a baby.
Is this how children come about in dreams?
From dreams? No, but is it the loners that which they can go just to prove that? No, this is in the right so look,
here, woman what it says is this is my command actor Will she had again we agree we believe 1000 million Muslims? No. We don't. We accept because we know this mighty messenger of God had no reason to lie. What was he getting out of this? The easier way would have been to ridiculous so don't be a fool man. What are you talking?
Your sister, your mother?
If she told you that you believe her? This is not the How can you believe this Jesus 2000 years ago? No but we believe because who testifies God is speaking through Mohammed telling us so we submit our mana
be here and we offer
so
the reason with her so how how's that you abroad this challenge to the world without a husband? What can she say? She's a far shot the Quran says far Shara LA, but she merely pointed to the babe asked him so this is a fun moment. Can I film it? subbiah said how can you talk to one with a child in the cradle?
How can you talk to him this little thing? What can you tell us? And by miracle Jesus spoke from his mother's arms, defended his mother against an unbelieving audience. So Paula Abdullah so most certainly I am the servant of Allah. Nikita he has given me a revelation by Jalan in Abuja, and he has made me a prophet.
He spoke and defended his mother. The first miracle attributed to Jesus in the Holy Quran is that he spoke as an infant from his mother's arms, the first miracle of Jesus Christ. The other picture, the first miracle.
You read in the Gospel of St. JOHN, I think it's chapter three at the beginning. Jesus and his disciples go to the marriage feast at Cana Cana.
And they run short of wine Why? So his mother comes to him and says, Son, look, these people are in a problem. They have run short of wine, help them out. Believing that he's got mysterious powers to help these people solve the problem. So Jesus blurts out, according to the Bible,
he says, woman, woman, what have I to do with the My time is
Not yet. Woman, in whole of the 27 books of the New Testament not once does is call his mother, mother, woman, woman. And asking in the Hebrew language is a new word for mother.
This word woman he uses for the prostitute, same word. You see the woman was caught in the act. They bring her to Jesus
is the look this woman we caught her in the act. What must we do to her, they're putting into the test. They trying to get him embroiled with a government or with the religious authorities. Either way, he loses. If he says stone Ha. That was the law book of Leviticus, that the adulterer and the adulterous must be stoned to death. If it's a stone her as a man of God, he must abide by the law.
Stone her and they would have stoned her and killed her. And if they were apprehended by the law by the government, they said, Look our Messiah told us to.
This is what our Messiah says. So he's in conflict with the gun. Because adultery was not a capital crime in the Roman Empire, nor is it today interest in them. It is not a crime at all. Adultery is no crime. Did you know that? adultery is not a crime in any Christian nation or not.
It's not a crime. The law will not hold you responsible for committing adultery
because a prostitute woman will attain accusers. So this is not at all gone. So sidora Go and sin no more woman says there's not a single place equals his mother mother in the Bible. So he says woman What have I to do with thee? My time is not yet. So she persuades him said, Look, man, help them out. These people are in difficulty. Alright, fill up the vats.
You know the wine vats with water. And they fill it up and he turn water into wine. And they drank and they remarked the blank cards of the night who have been drinking imbibing all night. They remarking Why have you kept the best wine for the last?
The best. Why have we came to the last? So my brother Jimmy Swaggart, he says in his book that that wine was pure greed juice.
I said, Brother, I didn't have chance to talk about that. But it's a brother Swaggart.
You see if a man has an imbibing wine for whole night. And the things run dry. And you give him pure green juice, that grape juice is like mud water to him.
Because there is a law involved you drink 5% alcoholic drink 5% 5%. After a while, your senses are getting dulled, you need 10% to make you feel that it's alcohol, something to give you a kick, then you need 20% to make you to feel there is something potency in it. You have to increase the alcoholic content to make you feel that is better than the previous and is better than the previous one. If you give such a man, great juice is mud water, what is it? insipid notation.
And he's telling us in his book called alcohol. This is one of the he's telling us and I have no reason to contradict him unless you have. He said there are 11 million drunk cards in America. 11 million trump cards
and 44 million heavy drinkers get that book small book. I have a sample here I think alcohol 11 million drunk cards and 44 million heavy drinkers and he says to me there's no difference between the two means 55 million drunkards, as far as Jimmy Swaggart is concerned.
In my country, they don't call them prank cards is an insult. The guy can punch you in the jaw. If you call him in a drunk card. You have to call him alcoholic.
The poor man is sick This is a sickness in his treatment is not a sin. Alcohol is not a sin, it's a sickness.
Jimmy Swaggart calls a spade a spade is a drunk rs 55 million drunk arts in America 11 million drunkard and heavy drinkers I make no difference. I said Yes, brother. I said go a step further. Islam will take you a step further, is even your social drinkers
are on the same level. They're breaking the laws and commandments of God as given in the last and final revelation of God.
The Holy Prophet Muhammad he said whatever intoxicating greater quantity is forbidden even in smaller quantity. No excuse for a nipper report.
Holy Quran says yeah you unless in among all you will believe in animal Samburu, most certainly intoxicants well my cereal and gambling well and Sabu and fortunetelling. Well, Islam when idol worship leads to minimally shaytan and an abomination of Satan's handiwork fetched and Ebola locked into a shelter such abomination that you may prosper, and one pronouncement, he created the biggest Society of teetotallers in the world. 1000 million Muslim as a people as a whole, they don't need
By that film, we have a blank sheet. We are not all angels. We know some Muslims can bring the Christian under the table that you know.
We are ashamed, but as a people as a whole, the biggest Society of teetotallers people who don't invite other Muslims and what they did this word of God, this is America, you perform a million miracles and you can change people here without any miracles, he transformed nations. This is a miracle. What miracle are you talking about?
So, the Quranic first miracle of Jesus, he spoke in definitive mother against an unbelieving audience, the first miracle of Jesus, he turned water into wine. Since then, wine has flowed like water in Christian, and there is no way out. The preachers, Jimmy Swaggart is telling us there's a book called preachers, and he's telling us in that book, he said at a church conference, all these preachers, the evangelists, the hot gospels, the Bible thumpers,
you know, the causal evangelist born again Christians, yes, at a conference
with us, somebody suggested this look, those people who are against the the, against alcohol, please stand up that you can go out when you return, please in your churches against the evil of alcohol, please stand up. And Jimmy Swaggart says nobody stood up.
That means they all opted for alcohol. Why and the reason Jimmy Swaggart said the reasoning is he said, Look, our Lord Jesus turned water into wine. If it is good enough for our bodies, good for us. Good logic is good for your God is good for you.
He says that was pure grape juice. I said it is the same why any wine your Christian scholar says why in Greek as the Lord the Prophet, Lord according to the Bible, he drank and cohabited with his daughters permitted incense night after night, saying why any wine in Greek that why any wine and this is why I said the only way out is the last and final revelation of God. Jesus Christ tells you that I have yet many things to say to you, but you cannot build them. Now. You haven't got that capacity, you're not fit to receive solution to all the problems that I can give you I can solve all the problems of mankind till Doomsday, but you are not fit.
When he The Spirit of Truth is can say He will guide you into
the spirit of truth for he shall not speak from himself, but nothing so shall hear that shall he speak and he shall declare unto you the things that are will come, you shall glorify me, he said, that spirit of truth is Muhammad, he truly glorify Jesus, by absolving him from the calumnies of his enemies, his mother, as well as Jesus, and the Christian world, can never repay Muhammad for what he has done, what Mohammed has done for Jesus, and for his mother. He is the true comforter, the true advocate of Jesus Christ. With these words, Mr. Chairman, I don't see the chairman around. But Mr. Chairman, and my dear brother, when I stop here, and give you the opportunity, as was suggested by
the chairman, that we have a time you have the opportunity to asking questions. Thank you very much.
Thank you very much, Mr. leader for this uninspiring talk.
I will now give a one minute
outline for the lecture for those who came late. Mr. Data started talking about delegated legitimacy and the legitimacy of the both children of Abraham. And then he talked about how the Jews look down the Arabs 1500 years ago, and they are still looking down at the Arabs. Now, he went further and he talked about Mary and her status, that he she was not being married before the birth of Jesus, and how miraculously, Jesus was born. He went again, and he talked about the importance of believing on Jesus as an apostle, in the Muslim point of view in Islam, a Muslim is not a Muslim unless he believes that Jesus, peace be with him, is a messenger of Allah, He explained.
Also, he talked about alcohol and the problems of gambling, fortune telling us the problems of all the problems that mankind suffer and he showed both the viewpoints of Islam and what he had discussed with
Mr. forager.
Ladies and gentlemen, we are not here to antagonize anybody, not to belittle any religion.
caste or creed. We are here to learn and to get the benefit of the thought.
Mr. Key that will now entertain questions and He will answer questions. If you have any question, please feel free and come to the mic, according to the Qur'an, and I'll admit admitted an ignorance of the Quran
was Jesus resurrected from the dead?
The question was, according to the Quran, was Jesus Christ resurrected from the dead? Now according to the Quran, he was neither cued nor crucified. See, the Quran says smilla Rahmanir Rahim. Allah him in eternal mercy ha resub No, Mariama Rasul Allah, that they sit in boast that we kill Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, the apostle of God. In answer to that God says, Mama cat Allahu wa masala boohoo that they didn't kill him, nor did they crucify him while our kin should be alone, but it was made to appear to them. So why in Allah Zenith Allah foofy Luffy, shotgun milham and those who dispute there in a full of doubts, Marla,
there are certain knowledge electabuzz isn't the only photo conjecture, guesswork fiction wama catahoula tienen for a surety they killed him not. And I am going to have a debate with a great Christian in your country of this drama Institute. I think the night after tomorrow or tomorrow night in Kansas, Dr. Robert Douglas, on the subject of was Christ crucified. And I will prove from the Christian Bible, not from the Quran, the Quran says they didn't kill him. And they didn't crucify him, you're satisfied, but no, to satisfy the Christian will show to them from the Christian Bible, that brothers, you have listened to the whole thing. You're reading something, and actually
you're misunderstanding it. And I'll be proving that tomorrow night is it tomorrow night. Tomorrow night in Kansas City. We are having a debate with Robert Douglas Dr. Robert Douglas of the xoma Institute. He will deal with this subject fully there.
Now the gentleman on the left.
Dear friends were in prison in the largest Muslim country for talking to Muslims about Jesus. Indeed, and most countries that are predominantly Muslim, one cannot go through to talk about Jesus without if you're a Christian or that question, how can Islam and true if you cannot stand up in the marketplace of ideas, without the protection of gun workers in the
criticism?
Now kindly request whoever asked a question to limit the question to the merit of the discussion. However, I will give Mr. DITA a chance to answer this question. But whoever has a question, please limit it because Mr. Direct here is not to defend what governments are doing. He is only here to explain what he explained already.
See, the question is quite a rhetoric one about Muslim governments. The policies with regards to people coming in and perverting their people from the point of view of the Muslim is a perversion from the worship of the one true God. People want to take away our children and worship human beings created beings. to us. This is the highest form of blaspheme, worship instead of worshiping God worshipping his creation creatures. So if the governments are trying to defend, I'm not defending them, but as if they are trying to defend in the best interests of the people, that is their business. But now at the same time, it also poses another question from my side, that the Christian
missionaries will have to now acknowledge that they're using deceitful methods deceitful. Look at this. Look at this, this book here. No Muslim child will ever think that this is Christian loyalists, Al Qaeda, Arabic telegraphy, you see deceiving the Muslims in the guise of Islamic book. This at close to you if you have you see, you know how easily the Muslim is being taken up by this al Qaeda, this caligraphy Islamic but actually is the Gospel of St. Matthew.
Can you imagine the seat now I want to know what is your Christianity allows you to deceive people in Pakistan on my way, I delivered a lecture while I am walking out people all around this around me they shaking hands and congratulating me a small boy about 12 or 14 he comes to me and he presents these three to me. This
this
he presents this to
I take it, I felt like using it. That's our habit. You know Allah Salam if you come across, which is it, but the crunch was two great people you know, so I put it quickly in my pocket for about three to four days I had no chance of taking it out, believe me, I'm not exaggerating, you know, I am moving from face to face, I have no time and when I go to the hotel, I'm tired, I take off my jacket and throw it down one side, then in Abu Dhabi or somewhere, I took it out and put this on my table next to the bed. Still I am not looking what it is. What it is, then now to move further. So now let me read out all these papers that I've collected.
And I start looking at this. I'm reading Allah Muhammad.
Allah Muhammad.
I'm reading
Allah Muhammad.
I turn the back calendar. Another one
beautiful calligraphy, Islamic calligraphy where this in 100 years the Muslim child will never know what is happening in his house sticker beautiful sticker. He's gonna throw this out and put it in the Quran stick it in the Quran. You know what? You see? Christian missionaries this what they're doing to people now deceiving them this one? Yeah, this is back of it. He said the Lord's Prayer, the Lord's Prayer. We don't talk like that. The Lord's Prayer says Al Fatiha. Michel Fatiha the opening chapter Bismillah R Rahman Rahim al hamdu Lillahi Rabbil aalameen opening chapter, the Lord's Prayer
says abana ah so Our Father which art in heaven, hallowed be thy name, thy kingdom come Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven in Arabic. calligraphy deceitful. You see what you're doing deceiving the people. This one here is not Allah Muhammad for a week I couldn't see it. Look at this. Everybody says Allah Muhammad. Am I right? What do you see? Is not Allah Muhammad? Allah marhaba God is love.
deceiving people. I asked you my brother missionary. This is your protest. He has a look. Is this your way of propagating your faith? If you have something good Sandra, why don't you go out openly and talk to them? Give them your caligraphy your language? Why What are you trying to catch fish with? What are you doing now? deceiving people? And yeah, another one.
Coming from Ghana, a letter addressed to the Arab countries. I must read it.
I must read it what they are trying to do. They're sending parcels literature into Muslim countries. And on the top of it, they put rubber stamps.
This is asking, do you think that if I send you bigger parcels about twice or thrice the size, size sizes I sent you with our franking stamp, which has the name Islamic mother a subtle Islamic mother soul. I don't know what it really means. But as soon as they push man, the government's is the Islamic mother a subtle inside your religion allows you to deceive people like that, in the guise of you know,
Jesus Christ truly describe them. He says Beware of false prophets who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly a ravening gurus. They're trying to deceive you. You must be beware of them. So I'm not defending my Arab brothers. In Pakistan, you have the freedom there. Pakistan, your missionaries are making inroads in Bangladesh, you have the freedom there. In India, you have the freedom there.
In Indonesia, Malaysia, you have the freedom there is some errors, you know, are more stringent in the regulations. But you still getting through look by receipt, by post by radio, you're getting through somebody complaining about what is your complaint? We have a legitimate complaint books that Christians write every book
inside why I became a Christian Sultan Muhammad Paul, when you flip the pages verses from the Quran
for the Muslim these verses as sacred sacrosanct, every child every grown up will kiss it and put it next to the Quran. Why because the last column is not fair it he will not burn it. You know the psychology of the Muslim and you taking unfair advantage of it. Look at it.
From Sufism, Islam, john of the souhan Look at this. deceit. Does your religion allow you to deceive people like this catching fish?
You tell me. So what are you crying about? What are you complaining about? In Africa? You have 35,000 full time Crusaders.
Billy Graham, I'm sorry. Jimmy Swaggart is boasting that is getting through to 22 million Muslims through his radio says 22 million. I'm asking what are you caring about?
Please, don't you know like, you know, bashful maidens. You know, when you do the things, you're hurting the people's feelings, you're trying to steal our children. And now when somebody tries to do so,
Some type of a protection, you really like a woman, please don't do that.
Ladies and gentlemen, the whole lecture will be available on a cassette tape. And it could be available at the Islamic center of Toussaint address 1627 is Ferris Street, Tucson, Arizona 85719. And the telephone number there is 3258992. Repeat the address is 1627. East First Street, Tucson, Arizona, and the zip code is 85719. And not only this lecture is available there, you could request several lectures of Mr. De that, and some other scholars Also, if you want to broaden your background about this.
Also, we have about 15 more minutes for the questions and answers. You're currently requested. If you have any question, please feel free and come to the mic. Now the gentleman on the right.
First of all, like to clarify a point.
Earlier on tonight you made a statement involving incarnation involving a comparison of Christianity with Hinduism?
Well, to clarify a point, we do not believe that the purpose of Jesus Christ coming down in the form of man was for the simple reason of understanding man's problems, but instead to take on some of the world. And because of that there is no real parallel between an incarnation of comparing Hinduism faith with the faith of Christianity. And second, the point that I'd really like to address your entire issue tonight
is that it seemed to me that it was more
not necessarily who is Christ and what is his purpose. But it was more like an attack upon men, Christian men, your men. I mean, I appreciate I appreciate Mohammed, and I appreciate all the great profits. But it's God that is above all of us. And, you know, we really have no right to compare ourselves on the same standpoint. And so to bring in man versus man, is really irrelevant when it comes to God and Christianity and Muslim faith. And so I'd like to know not necessarily what you believe on the attack of Jimmy Swaggart, or pat robertson, or your own people. But instead, I'd like to know,
where is it you stand on Jesus Christ, in comparison to God, and your Muslim faith and a comparison between faith not men.
I thought I made it abundantly clear. With regards to what we accept Jesus to be, I said, and I repeat, that Jesus Christ, we believe, was one of the mightiest messengers of God. I said, we believe in his miraculous birth, which many modern day Christians don't believe today. We believe in his many miracles, including those of giving life to the dead by God's permission, and of healing both those born blind and the lepers by God's permission, then I said, there is a Parting of the Ways and that is, you say that is God we say is not God. You say is God incarnate? We say God does not incarnate. Is that an attack? Or is this putting forth to you our positions that look, this is
opposition in some hypocritically telling you, you know, he performed many miracles, and what he did, and he spoke as a child and all that, and says, Now I scratch your back and you scratch my back, was that what I was trying to do? I said, Look, we accept all these things we are going together here is the Parting of the Ways. You say he's not God, and he's not God incarnate, because God does not incarnate and he's not the Begotten Son of God. Because begetting is an animal act, it belongs to the lower animal functions of *, and we are not to attribute such equality to God. Now, this is the Muslim Stan,
if that goes against your grain against your belief, now you have every right to ask Mr. D that you see Jesus is God. So what makes him God? Is he had no father. So some evidence for every person must have a father have to agree. Yes. So Jesus must also have a father. So if you can show a father, who is his father say no, he has no father is no his father is God. What have you to say now? So he is the Begotten Son of God? is God's only Son, talk like that. So what have you to say we believe in the Holy Trinity, Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. Innocence, this is what our book says, Now we accept the Trinity talk like that. The first question and he did a beautiful job is that look, now we
believe about Christ's resurrection. So I said, Look, if there's no dead there's no resurrection. talk like that. This is the question. There is no you want me to justify even now you want me to justify and look, I'll show you from your own book that you
You read something and you misunderstand the thing that you're reading.
Let's put it to the audience that I put it to you. But now you as you're crying now like your woman, you know basketball Maiden, you said Now look, you say you attack what attack? What did I say disparaging about Jesus? You say that he called his mother a woman in your book. I said my book says he says Baba ram Diwali that he has made me kind to my mother, which Allah is a parent Satya and is not made me. Oh, well, I'm Annie Jabarin Shakira, and not you know, aggressive or abusing. This is the Quran is defending Jesus, that he never did anything that you are attributing to him, that he calls the learner men, men of Israel is the elders of his people, your generation of vipers, your
white settlers, You wicked and adulterous generation, you snakes, you fools. This is your record. My book says no, he never did anything like that. Is that an attack?
If that is an attack, then brother, I apologize by God, then I'm ashamed of myself. If this is an attack, the Quran says that he didn't do that he respected his mother, that's an attack. Is that an attack? That he did? He abused the people? Is that an attack? No, you must tell me what what is the attack? What is the attack? What? What did I say abusive about Jesus, as he is one of the mightiest messengers of God, we love Him, we respect him, we revere him and we say follow him. Follow him. Because if you followed him, you'll be a Muslim, you're not following him have the opportunity to the question is please go ahead.
In fact,
what I want to talk is the question is,
I believe all cause ball, the, the Torah, under the Quran itself. And the God also revealed the, the gospel of the Bible and the Torah, for guidance and light. But my question is, we see the error, or you pointed out the error of Christianity by saying that they worship according to the will of God. How about on the second side, on the other side of the coin, that also Muslim worship according to the will of God by idolizing had these theories, all these things? Why don't we see on the other side also, because these people will say that we follow the Quran, but they follow Hadith theories and narration of other people, which are not the words of God totality. How do you see these six
things? I You see, I think you will have missed the mark, whatever the subject was. I don't know whether you people know when you say the subject was two pictures of Jesus Quranic and biblical. Now the brothers coming out with something about the Muslims now they're idolizing a book. Which book either idolizing which book. Are you idolizing? Which book are you worshiping? We pray to Allah we make Salah gives the car go for pilgrimage will be obtained from evil. I don't know what is the question? Where is what stopped troubling you? I don't know. You say the subject was about Jesus. Now you talking about books and idolizing books? Which Muslim is worshiping a book? I want to know?
Then I'll deal with that Muslim but if you are that Muslim, then you tell me which book? Are you idolizing cars cars? No, no, look, please, this was supposed to be question time. There are so many people behind you. Please give them an opportunity.
Okay, thank you, Mike. My question is one of curiosity. If, if the Muslim believes in Jesus Christ as being a prophet, then I assume that means that there revering his message and what he was. So my curiosity is one in the Christian description of him say by the prophet Isaiah, when he's referred to as the coming Messiah, being Emmanuel, translated as God with us. And also in the men that he was with that he trained up who, when they relate his story, relate frequent instant instances where he, they say that no man comes to God but through me and that I am the bread, the truth, the life that I am God. So I'm curious about how you handle that.
Very, very pertinent and straightforward question, straight request, you know, it calls for my response on that level. You see,
there are quotations in the book of Isaiah in the Old Testament, where the description is given about somebody something, maybe the Messiah, he says, and he shall be called, I'm quoting, called Emmanuelle, which means God with us, he shall be called Emmanuelle.
Now I'm asking people to look up 27 books in the New Testament 27 books, in any one of these books is it ever mentioned anywhere
That Jesus was ever called emanuelle was he called Emmanuelle? He was called Jesus. He was called the Messiah. He was called the bread of life, he was called is the truth of God, all that the word of God was he ever called Emmanuel in any one of these 27 books was he.
So it means is not referring to him, he shall be called, Legacy The man comes along is going to lecture to the people on the subject, two pieces of Jesus Quranic and biblical and that man shall be called the Messiah.
But is anybody called me Messiah? No, since there's no fulfillment me, if I wasn't called Messiah, I'm not the Messiah, he was called and he nobody ever called him he shall be called. I said, Do you see that refers to Muhammad?
Because Muhammad you see in the Quran, in the Holy Quran, you read that Muhammad and Abu Bakar at the flight, they were in a cave and they were almost being caught out. And Abu Bakar says, This is look man they are almost there upon us. We are done for
and Muhammad says in Allah mana Emmanuelle in Allah God is with us. Amen. You l Muhammad said that. No, Jesus, Jesus on the cross, he said,
Li Li Lama Sebastiani. See at the critical moment, when you have God with you, who says that Mohammed says that in Allah hamana, which is the exact translation of Emmanuel, God with us.
Jesus says, according to your report, Li Li Lama Sebastiani, which means, My God, my God, why has thou forsaken me? What is not with him? He's forsaken by God. That's the critical moment. So this is not referring nowhere referring to Jesus with regards to Jesus saying, I am the way, the truth and the life no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Mr. deedat, what have you to say to that said, I have to respond. He did say that. I am the way he is the way you see in the context. Now let's have a look at it in the context. You see, the disciples of Jesus misunderstood everything, everything he spoke, they misunderstood. And his person, the disciples and followers misinterpret everything he uttered with apologies.
You see, this is in john chapter 14. At the beginning, we are told, Jesus says, In My Father's house, there are many mentions, had it not been forced. So I would have told you, and I'm going to prepare a place for you. And with that, I go, you know, and the way he knew, you know, where I'm going, and you know how to get there.
In other words, I assume you understand what I'm talking about. He's telling his disciples, you know, where I'm going and you know how to reach that destination. So they said, Lord, we know not whither thou goest and how can we know the way? In other words, they misunderstood?
Jesus is talking about spiritual matters, the switch spiritual goals, spiritual destination, they are thinking of geographical locations, Washington, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, what the thing is, we don't know where you're going, and how are we gonna get there?
Look misunderstanding. He's talking about spiritual things, with your geographical geographical places. So Jesus in answer to that says, I am the way, the truth and the life no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. means if you want to know where I'm going, look at me, the way to God is personified in me. Look at me, the truth of God is personified in me, look at me, through life is personified in me, look at me, if you follow me, you will reach your destination. And they misunderstood again. No, it was to refer them to me further for his disciples.
This simple statement, they can understand everything that means understanding.
So this will look not sure as a father, and it sufficeth us. Look, all this you talking about is too heavy for us to me, we don't know what you're talking about.
Just show us God.
If you can see, God will be satisfied. In answer to that. Jesus says, Philip, you have been with me for so long.
You know, you are to know better than that. You are a Jew. And as usual, no man can see God and live God is not seen at any time. That's what the Scriptures say, is not seen at any time.
And no man can see God and live. If you see God you'll be consumed.
And you with me for so long. And you still ask me such a silly making such a silly request. You want to see God with your bodily eyes, when you can look at the sun.
If you have seen me, you have seen the Father. I mean, if you understood what I am, you would have understood what
What is St. JOHN is talking other places seeing they see not hearing they hear not neither do they understand. Means you see, and you don't see if you have seen me meaning not physical seeing because Philip had no defect in his eyes if he had, Jesus would have healed him if he can heal other people from the blindness, why not his disciple of his defect in sight? No is not talking about physical sight means if you have seen me, he had seen me when if you understood what I am, you would have understood what God is you and you wouldn't make such a silly request. When do you see God with your body in the eyes, way to God, you see, the every prophet of God, in His own time, in his own
dispensation is the only way to God. In the time of Moses, Moses was the way to God. If you want that another way, the children of Israel chose another way through the golden calf, for which 24,000 people were killed. The Jews killing Jews, God's command says, destroy them, this rubbish, no, they're worshipping a path kill them. One books is 23,000 as a 64,000, were killed for that. Why? Because they chose another way. There's only one way to God is through the way of the prophet of God, the prophet of the time, he tells you in the time of Noah, Noah was the way to God, you will be saved, getting into that. That's all. No fasting, no prayer, no soccer, no pilgrimage, nothing. Just
get into the ark. Salvation is yours.
That's all, this is the way to go. Anybody who got in saved from physical destruction, as well as spiritual destruction, literally happened with the prophet of God, in the time of Jonah, Jonah was the way in the time of Jesus, Jesus was the way in the time of Muhammad, this is his dispensation. Muhammad is the way if you want another way, it will not be accepted from you. Christ told you
that when he The Spirit of Truth is come, He will guide you into all truth. He had the message, he had the solutions. But now he didn't have the time the poor man is on the run. As soon as he opened his mouth, the Jews were after his blood, and a man on the run, he's got no time to give you all the teaching says that I have yet many things to say no to you, but you cannot bear them now how beat when he The Spirit of Truth is come, He will guide you into all that spirit of truth is Mohammed. And we are prepared to reason with you. Let us have a dialogue. I have written a book called what the Bible says about Muhammad. This deals with profits from the Old Testament, deliver a lecture on
Mohammed, the natural successor to Christ is available on videotape. I haven't had a chance to read the book yet. But inshallah God willing, I'll buy the book. So in other words, let us have a dialogue, who is the Spirit of Truth? Who is the Comforter? And what does this mean religion time, the way, the truth and the life he is the way to God? He is not the goal. To the Christian he is the goal is not the way his interview must talk and reason how I see it, how you see it. And by that we might arrive at truth. What truth is really his
next question.
I've been so fascinated with everything you've been saying, I'd love to sit down and talk to you. But I feel that this is the closest opportunity. I'll get to that. So I had to narrow my many questions down to this one.
Does, does God according to the Islamic faith, provide forgiveness for sins? And if so, how do we know that? What is what is God's promise to us that? How does he provide that promise? And okay?
You might think that I try to hoodwink the people in you. So therefore, if you ask one question at a time, you'll be merciful to me.
When you take a chance, another one and another one, I don't mind till 12 o'clock tonight. I'm at your disposal. But if you can just one at a time, so it makes it easy for me, please, okay. Okay. Does God according to Islam, faith provide forgiveness for sins. Yes.
That forgiveness of sin is.
you sincerely repent
of the wrongs that you have done. God forgives, he does not need blood, the blood of animals or of mankind, no blood.
He says in the Holy Bible. He says, In the book of Isaiah, he said, I forgive sins for my own sake. And I will not remember your sins. What he wants from you is come to him. Sincerely make an effort and forgive and the parable in the Bible. The prodigal son, if you remember prodigal son in the Gospel of St. Louis prodigal son,
father, a father had two sons,
who is a father in this parable, God, He is the father. He's got two sons means two types of his creation. One was who remains with the Father. You know, praise does everything nice, good chap. goody, goody, good. Follow
The other fellow like most of us, so look they had Give me my inheritance, but belongs to me my talents, all the talents, give it to me and I will make into the world and fend for myself and the loving father Sir, I know it's not good for you, but since you asked for it, I will take it. And the sun ticket, which we all take, see the cats has given us a lot of talents. And he went out into the world as the gospel describes, and myth, that company mix with that company became a drunkard and whatnot. Maybe he had AIDS and everything is lying in the gutter, missing his pants. Now in that condition, he realizes that he would have been better off he was with a father.
So he makes a comeback.
He makes a comeback. And the father sees him from afar, says the gospel. And the father runs through the son is is this my son was dead is now alive. He was lost. He has now found he wasn't dead. Spiritually had departed. So that was dead. He was lost spiritually. Now he's found. So he embraces the sun welcomes him and tells the other son His sacrifice, the fatted calf, that we celebrate the return of the prodigal
whose car
whose car was that? The Father's? See the father out of his bounty, he makes a sacrifice. He is not asking his son salute, you squandered all my talents, all my wealth. Now you go and stay with the flames the pigs in the pigsty for seven years. Look after the pigs and after that I'll give you a promotion to the sheep and the cows before you come into the house. That is not God that Shylock Shylock tops like that God Almighty, you make a sincere effort to return is this come welcome. No price, ask no blood, no sacrifice. If he sacrifices called for his own, out of his own goodness isn't prepared to celebrate. he celebrates your homecoming. And the book of Ezekiel chapter 20 tells
us the very same situation, same principle. So the soul that sinneth it shall die means you who do wrong you will perish. And fortunately, in Christian literature, there is a full stop. No Christian literature ever completes the verse, they put a full stop where there is no full stop, they put a full stop the soul that sinneth it shall die, and they all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. Everybody parishes No, no, please, continues semi-colon day in the King James Version, the soul that sinneth it shall die. The Son shall not be the iniquity of the Father, Father Adam sin, we his children, we will not be that iniquity. Neither shall the father be equal to the Son, the son
shall not be the iniquity of the Father, neither shall the father be the iniquity of the son, his son, Adam son v. His children. Last June in San Francisco 300,000 sodomites. You call them gays? They get on a pilgrimage led by 50 lesbians on motorcycles. God will not ask Adam is a look at your children. That's right. What are they doing? They're going to get AIDS. They will get AIDS. No, God won't ask Adam. See, this is the law of God. This is the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him. And the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him the good thing the good man does. God says he'll get his reward and the wicked fellow does wicked things, he will be punished. We have
salvation is there. But if the wicked will turn into repent, come back. But if the wicked will turn from all the sins that he has permitted, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die. That is salvation. You come back, you come back. God wants you to be you ask for forgiveness. God will forgive you. He's not like Shylock wanting a pound of flesh from you. He doesn't do that. He forgives sins for his own sake, not for your sheep and goats and Christ. Nothing. He wants nothing. He went needs no blood. He wants you. You're sincere effort wanting to come back. This is salvation.
I have read the Quran, but perhaps not as thoroughly as I might have. So please forgive any ignorance that I exhibit.
This evening, you've made it very clear, and that there are severe discrepancies, even contradictions between the Gospels and the Quran. And yet I seem to remember that the Quran regards the Gospels very highly. And I was wondering if you could clarify for me what the precise Quranic position is on the Gospels.
The term gospel
translated into Arabic is in G. And we in Islam, we say we believe in the Torah. We believe in the Sabu. We believe in the Injeel and we believe in the furqan for can is the Quran we believe in all these heavenly bodies.
As books from God,
so they're in jail, translated into English the gospel. gospel into Arabic is in jail. So what does the Quran say? Or the Muslims say about the in jail?
in jail we believe in, in jail is the revelation with God Almighty gave to the Holy Prophet Jesus. Whatever God gave him is the in G. We read in the scriptures in the Gospel of St. Matthews, that Jesus went somewhere, and he preached the gospel, translated in G. Mark says even to a certain other place and repeat the gospel in Jesus.
Luke says he went to someplace and he preached the gospel in jail. When john tells us that Jesus went to a certain place increased the gospel in jail.
I'm asking that in jail was Matthew, Mark, Luke and john under his arm? Did you have Matthew, Mark, Luke and john x? Corinthians Philippians? galicians? Thessalonians? No, James? Is that what he had under his arm? The answer is no. What did he have? A book did he know?
It is a revelation which God gave him that is what he was teaching, the knowledge that God gave him he was preaching, that is what we believe in is from God. We speak very highly of it. But now what you are presenting to us, is the Gospel according to St. Matthew, the Gospel according to St. Mark the Gospel according to St. Luke, the gospel, according to St. JOHN, with you in your Arabic translations translate as in Gili, Matthew, in Chile, Marcus, in Chile, Lucas, in Chile yohanna. That's how your scholars translate these Gospels. In Chile, Matthew, Mark, Luke, john,
I said, Look, we are believing the engine is the engine that was given to Jesus. Not Matthew, Mark, Luke, and john. So if you can produce the gospel, according to St. Jesus, that is what we believe in. We'd like to see that if you have that is the one that we respect and review.
I hope that makes it clear.
Earlier there was there was a question in reference to I am the way the truth and the life that you answered, and I found it to be very logical answer. But there was something that I found kind of missing in the puzzle. When, when he is referring to I am the way, the truth and the life, all of us being intelligent people, I'm sure were to see even being a literalist in the sense that that is what it is saying, I am the way the truth of life. Now Had it been that he was the Prophet of the time. And there was David and Solomon and etc, etc, etc, before him, had had been in a sense to where he was put on the same level of those other prophets. And they all were the way the truth and
the life according to that period of time. I find it interesting, that at no time, in my biblical knowledge of the Bible, does it ever state that King David or King Solomon, or in any reference, anybody else ever made the mention? I am the way, the truth and the life? If they were indeed the way, the truth and the life at that time? Why is it that they never made that same statement?
See, there are so many ways of saying the same thing.
So many ways, you say the same thing. You don't put it in that order.
Like the very fact the fact of salvation
being saved.
When I said in the time of Moses, now you have to now tell me that it wasn't. So in the time of Moses, I say, Moses was the way to God. In the time of Abraham, Abraham was the way to God. He's telling people is the look, if you want to get to God, behave like this. This is what you do. God will love you and forgive your sentence. That is, in other words, look, look at me, the way I'm doing the way he prayed, Moses, the people must pray the way He fasted them as fast, the way he abstained from all evil, they do the same. If they cut a goat, you must they must also cut a goat whatever the prophet of God of the time does, that people must follow. You don't say, look, I am the
way the same statement he must make it Jesus makes such a statement. That also you can't prove. But we accepted that look, he could have said that. But did he say that in that form? Do you see What language did you speak? You have it in Greek. You have the whole thing written in Greek did he speak Greek, which is not the case, because a man Jew coming to the Jews will speak the Jewish language. It doesn't make sense that he's going to speak to them in Greek. When you present the word li li Lama Sebastiani is a to show you that he spoke his own mother tongue. But the rest of the Gospels is preaching not preserved in his language. So now we are not going into all the details. But the fact
of the matter is you can see the spirit of what he's saying is follow me. He said he is not afraid.
me who does not take his cross and follow me Take up your cross and follow me?
Did he want you to get crucified? No, the way I carry my responsibility, you carry yours that is the way he says, Verily, verily I say unto you, most assuredly, I'm telling you, except your righteousness exceed the righteousness of the scribes and the Pharisees, you shall by no means enter the kingdom of heaven, there is no heaven for you, unless you are better than the Jew. And I'm asking how can you be better than the Jew by not keeping the laws in the commandments?
He says, Think not that uncommon to destroy the law, the profits, and come not to destroy but to fulfill. For verily I say unto you, heaven and earth shall pass away, but one jot or one theater shall in no wise pass from the law, they'll all be fulfilled, who's ever before shall break one of these least commandments, or shall teach men so shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven? But whosoever shall teach and do shall be called, in the kingdom of heaven, asked my Christian brother and asked them, Do you keep the laws in the commandments? He says, No.
I said, Why don't you? He says, Now we are living under grace, the law is nailed to the cross. So we need to get that. So he says, Philippians Galatians Corinthians Thessalonians. So who's this? Who's this?
Who's that? Is this Paul? Paul, Paul? Paul, as a who is a rotten Master? Is it Jesus? So what does Jesus say? Nobody knows. Nobody ever comes. Jesus has a look, this is what Jesus said, You are not of me. If you don't take up your cross and follow me, the way I carry my responsibilities you carry yours is a manly religion is preaching not as soft soaping in a cowardly religion. Somebody else pays for your sins, you get AIDS, and Jesus takes the injections. Imagine you get really kanoria and Jesus takes the injections. Does it make sense? You have a headache, and Jesus takes the pill. Does that make sense? No. He's a man a religion. But now you have misunderstood the whole thing. You are
not following Jesus. You're not listening to Jesus. If you listen to Jesus, you'll be a Muslim. You're following Paul, Paul, Paul, Paul, he derails, Jesus's teaching derailed the whole thing. You don't have to do any good work today, to be saved. You just believe in God says Paul. Jesus says, You must be better than the Jew and there was no heaven for you. I'm asking between the two of them. who must you listen, Jesus says, The disciple is not greater than the master. The Master is Jesus. A million disciples tell you to go and eat pigs, you can now eat pigs. Because Peter has a dream. The Master says, Thou shalt not eat the flesh of the swine, because he confirmed the law of Moses to the
letter. one jot or one tickle jot is the smallest letter of the Hebrew alphabet, not even that amount is the word of the law. He says, and you have done away with the whole law. He says, not even that much. And whosoever shall do such a thing is called the lease in the kingdom of heaven. You must rubbish garbage. That's what he says. But you don't follow him. Therefore, you see, Michael, his heart, he wrote a book, Michael church here in America, New York, heart publication company, the 100, or the top 100, or the greatest 100 in history, he gives us a list of 100 most influential men in history from Adam Elisa Lam from Adam to current times, he gives you a list of these 100 great
names. And then he puts them in the order of seniority, who is number one who's number 10, who is number 99. And he puts Muhammad Sallallahu Sallam number one, the first person in that 100 list is Muhammad.
Jesus Christ is Lord and Savior. Number three.
So he's has to answer a conflict. He's just conscious, maybe some error. But if you notice a look, put moment number one and put your card number three. It's possible, but not probable.
It won't enter their mind to do such a thing. You say, I wish they had done this thing, but they haven't. They can't use that money that way. There are other ways of using it.
Why does he put Jesus guys number three, because he says the honor for Christianity is to be shade between Paul and Jesus. In actual fact, Paul is a real founder of Christianity, not Jesus Christ. And you see in the writings of all the evangelists, what are they teaching, you see, pour, pour, pour, pour. Nobody tells you what Jesus says. Jesus says, You must not even look upon a woman to lust after her. Whosoever looketh upon a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already is hard, but they all dance with other people's wives and daughters. They preach this in Sunday's, they put in the extra
sermons, what Jesus said but as soon as they go out there dancing with other people's wives and daughters with their backs and bosoms almost coming out with a few drinks to weaken the resistance, and they think nothing of it. Why? Because Jesus has didn't have the time to explain
So he said, somebody else is coming after me who will guide you into all truth. And that spirit of truth is Mohammed, that comforter is Muhammad. I look forward next time and I come here inshallah like to deliver a lecture on the subject. However, you have the opportunity. In, in reference to my previous question you did you did satisfy the question that God does provide forgiveness for sin.
What, I'm curious that if, if he does do this what, how can how can people the Islam faith be, be certain that they have been forgiven, be certain that they'll make it to heaven that they will finally reach the destination?
See, the Miss Muslim is given a formula.
The formula is, same as I read out to you from the book of Ezekiel.
Say, no difference, that but if the sinner is the sinner will repent, from all that he has done,
and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die spiritually, he will not be destroyed.
If you repent, and now that to the best of your ability, you try to do right, it is acceptable in the sight of God. The very fact that now you eschew what you have done, you might make you might fall again and again a million times, but sincerely if you repent to God, He will overlook your faults and forgive you a million times. This is a God of mercy. You say He's the God of love, then he must be a God of love. He is not like Shylock wanting his pound of flesh. Look, you slipped, and I must make you pay for it. You made this mistake. I must not wish to yours. I must pull your eyebrows. I must put your eyelashes. This is not God. You know this is Shylock you describing to me.
God is not Shiloh, he forgives sin, the Bible says he said, I forgive sins for my own sake, not for your sheep and goats and cows and blood for my own sake. The thing you have to do is like the prodigal son, just make up your mind to return. That's all you made a mistake says I repent, oh, Lord, forgive me, and I will not do it again. Maybe you fall again. Sincerely, Lord, I fallen again, forgive me. And he'll forgive you a million times. Because he's not shallow. He doesn't want blood. He wants you. He is a loving father in heaven. We believe in that. But not the concept that the Christian is that he must have law and this is this is not God. Adam and Eve sin says the Christian
they add the forbidden fruit for which they were kicked out.
kicked out of the garden. I am asking is that not punishment enough? From Felicity anything they wanted? The heck would have had they when Grace is the shops? Is the everything they wanted? No exertion, no sweating. They were everything. Now they kicked out from that condition. Is that not punishment enough? No, since the Christians not enough. So God goes out of his way into an ecosystem. He's thrown them out now ecosystem that you pull in for what you have done. You must now be children in pain and suffering labor, you must labor in childbirth as a punishment for what he did poorly. And you man, you must sweat for your bread? No, no easy life for you. I'm asking is that
not punishment? Enough? Still kicked out now cursed. Men and women. I'm still with everybody.
And every woman with a student in pain in somebody's labor? Not enough law says the Christian said everybody goes to *. For what? For the original sin? What Adam and Eve did God was gonna pursue you at the beginning of 1986. There will be a 4.8 billion people on earth. And everyone goes to help us is the question. Why? Because of what Adam and Eve did. George Newson, you inherited it. It's part of your nature now. And God's gonna meet you to pay for that. kicked out of the garden. Sweating for my bread, woman feeding children parents everything. Not enough now he's gonna put us all in *. For what Adam did.
I'm asking whether did Adam asked you before eating the apple? Did he? He asked you shall I eat the apple? Did he ask you know, my sister? Did did he ask you before eating the apple? How can God make you responsible? Is he a lunatic? This God is a lunatic going to make you responsible for something that you were not consulted about? Does it make sense?
It's a
major use brown in his life of Alabama Lanza? He says no hidden tribe has ever conceived so grotesque an idea. Such a filthy, dirty idea. No, she's in fact, no backward vision. No South Sea Island, Papuan ever conceived so grotesque and idea involving as it does the assumption that men was born with a hereditary stain upon
him this email from Adam, and for this stain for which he was not personally responsible was to be atone for and that the Creator of all things had to sacrifice his only begotten Son to neutralize this mysterious curse is a new hidden tribe has ever conceived such a nonsensical idea but the man who lands on the moon he tells you that
same guy sitting on his backside here in America is telling the Jews in 73 so look the Arabs are on the move. The Arabs are on the march they are moving the guys didn't heed the warnings of you know these Arabs man every time they come into battle before that they shout so we will hit you will do this and we come in is a no no is not the way to work silently, softly so they were caught off guard 73 first time in the history of Arab Israeli conflict caught off guard because they didn't heed this The Godfather here is that he did say that could never have crossed the bar live live. He could have never done it. You could never have gone into the design that you see says this guy here can he be
wrong?
answer is no. So whatever he says must be true. I said look my brother's please don't allow people to pull wool over your eyes. Think man think? See is the most nonsensical idea on Earth. Adam and Eve sinning and you're gonna go to * for that. And the way out is that the same God now he knows there's no way. No way he can change these people. So he must come down to earth. Go into a woman's woman lived there for nine months born like any other human child, with all the filth and the muck, which made his mother impure for 40 days as the Bible circumcised on the eighth day, circumcised on the eighth day.
Living like any other human eating food, drinking milk from his mother's breast, wetting his napkins, eating food, having a fall of nature
and beaten and chase around the almighty god of this universe he took that role and he died for you at the age of 33.
Please brothers now what is this? What is this? Where did you get all these things? Give us an opportunity since about 10 to the Muslims to get up at this most nonsensical ideas on Earth are getting converts the rich stealing your children in your own countries. You are here you are God sent you.
They are thinking that you are sent to them God sent is making them out water is making the Christians meltwater.
You see, this is this expatriate these students, you see now we have stupendous advantages against them, which we never had before.
I have to explain this. You see what the Christians are saying you must know I'm reading from this woman Institute the records what they say. They say that you see we have five advantages against the Muslims now, which we never had before. Number one,
we can now work from a home base.
We live in Tucson with our wife and children. And we can go and catch up these guys one by one home base. We don't have to go to foreign lands 1000s of miles away from home base. They can work in from the comfort of their own homes, they can work number one, number two, culturally these guys you people are fit to receive the message culturally. They in Bangladesh, they have the sit on the floor on the mat, flies buzzing and the smoke coming from the from the kitchen, smarting the eyes. Yeah, nice comfortable your sofa chairs, you know your dining table in your chairs, air conditioned homes, everything's culturally you are fit to receive the message. There is a backward people, they have to
go and sit down and reach down to their level two
linguistically, they have to learn the language of the native if they went to Bangladesh, they must learn Bangladesh, they go to Pakistan, they Muslim.
They come to Africa in my country, they have the loans. wherever they go, they have to learn the language of the native now you have learned a lot his language made it easy for him to talk to you linguistically. He's got one on you now. He hasn't got in the, in the rest of the world. Third World he's got he must learn the language of the Navy.
Previously is the converter the man who was a sore thumb wherever you see because in a village, one has become a martyr than apostate and everybody is you know, I won't use the word well have you seen that filter? A plus female you know
deedat what is what has happened to him.
But now, he says he can be absorbed, absorbed in the majority 240 million Americans to get through one more easy to know 1000 more all can be absorbed there. You can be absorbed. You are a sore thumb in your community wherever you are. Another advantage number five is the data governments are not happy that you're creating a fifth column in their midst. They're not happy
like Pakistan, you think they are happy that in scialfa there are more than 100,000 Christians in CL court is on the border with India. A potential fifth column over over 100,000 Are they happy they're not happy that they can do nothing about
you see they're not happy. They're doing nothing about it. They are not happy here the government is happy christianize them and make them want to own let them eat the pig you know we can sell more bacon, let them make them to drink that we can sell more alcohol man let them enjoy let us let them let us make them one like us that they don't start coming smarting as and telling us we are wrong. Every time the Muslim takes up exceptions. Look, this is not right. Your Salima is not right. Your drunkenness is not right. Your lesbianism is not right. This is not his fault. This these guys are always interfering in our private affairs, Silla, look, let us make them like ourselves five
advantages they have against us against you. But at the same time in reverse, you have all those advantages also against him. God has sent you here. I want to come to settle here. They won't allow me. There are millions and millions of people from the audience and from Africa. They want to come and live here. No more. Am I right? You can come and live here. Yes, unless you're a professor millionaire, something brain drain. They like to keep your brain drain. They want to drain our brains. Get them here. But the millions who want to come here, no hope no further. But you're here. Here is Allah giving you an opportunity to go and deliver the message won't do the job. I don't know
what excuses are for studies, maybe for livelihood maybe. But this is a godsend opportunity for you. You can also work from my home base, you can also speak in his language.
All the advantages is claiming against you you also have against him. not to that extent but you have to go to town my brothers and sisters go to town, go and deliver the message of Islam. And Allah is promising you Sally use a hero who Allah de Nicola has given you a dean that is the master overcome and supersede them all. bulldoze them all.
This is the destiny of his day. It's your privilege to go and fulfill his his promise with the law and the promise of our lives. True. Yes. The next question, Somali components. This is not my original question. This is a question from the audience in the back, probably a female okay. If if we're not original singers, why was Jesus baptized in the Jordan River by john the baptist? What's the question again? It will not original sinners. Why was Jesus baptized in the Jordan River by john the baptist? And it looks like a Christian question. Yeah, it is probably.
So if it was not for the original sin, why was Jesus baptized in the Jordan River? That means Jesus had the original sin, He was not born pure.
He is not fit. He is not fit to be a sacrifice. If that is the case, if that is enough, therefore it's an advantage. The brother is a Muslim is posing a Christian question. But if the Christian posed the question, then I said, Look, you say, for the original sin, the person he or she says yes. So I said Jesus had the original sin.
That means the sinner is one also a sinner. He says yes, then he says is not fit for the sacrifice, because the Christian says that he was the only one who was sinless.
But not very force is the disadvantage.
Christian question being asked by a Muslim, I don't know how to really deal with it. But this is the best I can do. Yes, Mr. D, there may I read three scriptural verses and asked you to comment on them.
I'm reading from the book of Acts, the fourth chapter, the 10th, through 12th verse,
be it known unto you all, and to all people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom he crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him, do this man stand here before you whole.
This is the stone which is set up not by the builders, which is become the head of the corner.
Neither is there salvation and any other. For there is none other name under heaven, given among men, whereby we we must be saved.
I think is Peter talking supposed to be the words of Peter, the who's, who's uttering these words? Those words were written by Luke. No, no, but now who's Luke was not talking? Because Luke was not there. He was not one of the disciples. Peter was saying that the words of Peter Yes.
You see is the same Pete at the beginning of Acts.
At the beginning of x, is he says, He men of Israel, hear these words. Jesus of Nazareth, amen approved of God among you, by me.
miracles and wonders and signs which God did by him, in the midst of you, which you yourself also know,
whatever he did, this is you he didn't do it. It was God working through him. He was a man.
He's a man Peter was the greatest authority is left by Jesus. You remember among the pearls, he tells Peter says, Peter, Feed my sheep, PETA, Feed my flock, in others look after them. look after them, say on this rock, Peter, that what keeps us on this rock, I will build my church, on you on the strength of what you are talking. Now, the way you are thinking now I'll build my Church, Peter. So the same Peter is telling you here in the book of Acts at the beginning, he says that he is a man, a proof of God by miracles and wonders and signs with God did he didn't do it?
So he's the way no way no others. Look, the only information Peter had was this man Jesus. And he's right. He said, Look, if they want another way, he was the one who's fulfilling the laws of Moses, he's come to bring them back to the path. They have strayed away from the path. They had gone for the letter of the law, they had forgotten the spirit, the Jews. So Jesus Christ is trying to bring them back. He's trying to elevate them. They're going for the letter of the law, forgetting the Spirit. And I can give you dozens of examples. Everything he said, was trying to elevate the Jews. So if you want the will and plan of God, here is the man. He is the way but not your understanding.
Your understanding is wrong. He is the man follow him what he did you do, but you don't do that the Christian, the Christian world doesn't do that. You see, they are now listening to Paul. He says the law is nailed to the cross. Who this who said that Jesus.
Now just said, Now you live in the grace, you're not bound by the law anymore. Brother swagger says is that if this you have already purchased salvation, just by believing and if you want to add more to that is not accepted is in gratitude on your part. You say now, look, I must fast I must pray, I was restrained, I must restrict my life is no that is no salvation, you are showing in gratitude. The man paid the price for everything, your weight, your murder, your insist everything is paid the price, you just got to accept the penalty that is paid for.
We need to get it ready to get that Jesus says he is not of me who does not take his cross and form. This is very liberally, except you are better than the Jew New Heaven for you. That's what he says your master. He says the disciple is not greater than the master. He says My father is greater than I, my father is greater than all. He said, the word you hear are not mine.
But the father that sent me he had given me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak even as the father is certain to me, so I speak. Where does he say I am equal to the Father. It says My father is greater than or my father is greater than I weigh. Now but Paul, it is Paul every time you contradict me, you contradicting the words of Jesus with Paul Paul Paul, Little wonder that Jesus Christ but third position in the book of heart, Michael, his heart, the top 100 is that look, it's Paul is a real founder of Christianity. So whether that's a look, let us go to Jesus. Listen to Jesus. Because if you listen to Jesus, it is Islam. That is Islam. Whatever he
tells you is Islam. Only thing is that he didn't have the opportunity of explaining to you what is implied by you must not even look upon a woman to lust. You didn't know what it really means. So Islam tells you that you see it means something more than what you're reading, not only not looking to last, because there's a look and looking admiring God's creation. Look at the shapely form 3624 36 or a beautiful size proportion. I'm only admiring his creation. Are you not lasting? We are. We are. Islam says the Quran says when you see a woman cut down your looks.
You don't develop that picture. You are developing the picture and getting into a miss reason because Jesus didn't have time to explain to you at every step. Everything that I show you I said look you the good Christian, you are actually following Mohammed.
Though you are giving credit to Christ, the credit comes to Mohammed you say don't drink. Brother Swaggart says he never touched it. No beer, no alcohol of any kind all his life. He never touched it. I said, Look, you're a good Muslim. You're following the teachings of Islam.
If you follow your master, he turned water into wine and they had a jolly good time as as a Christian say is that Jesus was no killjoy. He was no killjoy.
So he's in a woman you come across a lady who has been divorced for no fault of her own. She married her glamour boy, headquarters and children the guy was a drunkard
He beat the wife couldn't keep a job stabbing the children. So she goes before kindly magistrates Look at this, look at my condition, what this man is doing to me are my freedom and she gets a freedom divorce. You come across that lady, unfortunate person with the liability of three children. You know, she's beautiful, still beautiful, she's intelligent. She's been through the middle, she'll make a good wife. Would you not marry her? Are you going to hold it out against her because she made a mistake?
any sensible man who says no America, UVA protection in marriage. So when you do that you're following Muhammad, not Christ. You are a hypocrite. If you said, you're following Christ, because Christ said, who said, Marisa, that is divorced, committed adultery. That means your children will be illegitimate, and they'll be illegitimate for according to the Bible, 10th generation. The Bible says in the book of Deuteronomy, that the bastard shall not enter the congregation of the Lord, even unto the 10th generation. Don't get shocked. This is the King James Version. They say bastard. I didn't say that is in the Bible. The bastard shall not. And that means once You're a bastard, your
10 generations are bastards. That's what the Bible says. Would you like to do that? No. But if you marry that woman, and you're gonna be good to my children, they're all bastards and for 10 generation, they'll be bastards. But you said no, no, this woman, how can I hold it out against her? She made a mistake. Right? In compassion, love, fairness, justice, you give her protection in marriage. You don't want to, then it happens. What's happening. New York has got 1 million more women than men, they can get husbands, your country 7.8 million more women than men. They can't get husbands. If every man in america gets married, there'll be still 7.8 million woman who can't get
husbands. In New York. One third of your manpower is gay sodomites
your prison population 98% of your prison population is men. Then mankind men get cold feet for 100 different reasons. You know, you got 20 million more women on your hand. For whom you have to find husbands. You know that you have no answers, no answers salvation or salvation. I thought this 20 million hungry women talk to them. The Salvation
those 1 million in New York, the salvation, tell them sublimate their passions. That's what you do. Are you suddenly missing your pensions? passion 1 million woman can get husband and the manpower that is around the one product Jay sodomites. We would like to entertain the written questions.
Please, dear, dear brother, may Allah bless you many times how should I act with my mobile
with my
with my mother.
You is a follower of Jimmy Stewart. I thought she might have meant she is a follower of Jimmy Stewart.
Jimmy
Swaggart?
Your answer is in the Holy Quran Surah Maryam you know we are talking about Surah Maryam chapter 19 in the Holy Quran.
I think about verse number 53 or so. Allah tells us about the story of Abraham as the primary Salam. So was chlorophyll kitabi Ibrahima in kindness Deacon via this and relating the book The Quran the story of Abraham. He was a man of truth a prophet is Carla Lee and behold, he said to his father, yeah, Abba to my father Lima Taku. Mala Mala, mala Yogananda, and on and on. You see how he Abraham reasons with his father Surah Maryam chapter 19 I think it was 53 onwards. You read that and you read the commentary in Abdullah Yusuf Ali's translations, he is talking about a dutiful son that Ibrahim Alayhi Salam was to his father, how he reasons and he loves and how, you know what, what he
does to try to bring father to this light, the light of truth.
He's given us four different conditions of lines of approach, and if you follow that line of approach, inshallah you'll have all the success all the success. The other thing is you get this Jimmy Swaggart, books
on on alcohol, you get it on *, *, you get it on *, you get down gambling.
And you read that and he said, Now look, all this what he's trying to teach is Quranic. He's not going far enough. That's the only problem is he is not going far enough. And the reason is obvious, because the people who can't take them with him, the bulk of them, they don't, they can't let go. They can't let go of the things that they are messed in. So it says Now look, show show show. Everything that this brother Swaggart is talking about is in his condemnation of evil. He
Speaking as a Muslim,
he has delivered a talk beautiful talk on * is no joke. * is no joke. I heard him and I could see the audience reaction. people cheering. God opened the Quran, Sunnah look, whatever he's talking actually as if he has been copying it from the Quran. Open up the subject * in the index 41 different references *, *, Allah is telling you * is no joke * is no joke is a serious matter. So you'll be burned and burned and burned and his skin will be renewed so he's not finished. Because once you burn, the skin becomes insensitive, so no new skin and burnt again and you'll come to the verge of death and you will not die. You listen to Swaggart on his video. And you see when he
is as if he is copying from the Quran. Unfortunately, we have lost lost touch with our book
show to this mother of yours, the birth of Jesus in the Quran, show to her the index everything that the Quran teaches. And maybe if Allah wills, you know, she can be inspired, moved to become a Muslim.
The question says, regardless of the changes in the Bible, do you suggest that Muslims read the Bible? Isn't there some good to be learned from the Bible as well?
This good in everything.
You say the Bible you don't read for the sake of reading. No Christian does that no Christian moves the whole Bible. No Christian, I have come across a Christian who knows his Bible. At the moment I say, as much as I know his book, I haven't come across one yet who knows his Bible better than I do. But generally, the Christians don't know they only specialize on certain verses and phrases like I'm a father of one, either a senior seeing the Father, and the Father, but by me, and the the whole religion is revolving around that he doesn't know he doesn't. So reading the Bible would mean that you read it with the idea that how can you approach and draw the other person to watch yourself to
say, look, brother, this is very good. I quote from the book of Ezekiel, which is exactly the teaching of Islam, that what you do what you saw you read, that is Islam.
And that sin is not inherited. You see there, in the case of Moses, you read there, you know, Moses, when the people, the children reside, had seen their worship the golden calf, so God says, destroy them, kill them, by going out.
So Moses goes and plead with God. He says, Oh my Lord, he said, these are my people, you feed for your people. Now many of them wrong. They are my people. You want to destroy them.
If you want to destroy them, it says, blow me out of the book, forgive me, just throw me out. You don't recognize me anymore. So forgive these people that request is forgive these people have blocked me out of your book means forget me from that respected position of being the Anointed One of God. throw me out, disqualify me. That's his request, forgive them, or block me out. So God in answer to that, he says, I will blot him out who has sinned against me? This is his law.
Not innocent, you are an innocent man, where can I brought you out? For what is they have seen that is this law, the soul that sinneth it shall die, not you.
The Quran says a lot as it was written wisdom. It says no better of a burden bears the burden of another what you do you carry your own sins, the soul that sin It is so easy, it makes it your task easier. Because when he caught something and you quote a lot as it was it was raw, and you start expanding it so no, I don't accept that. It's a look, your book says the very same thing.
As I was doing this tonight, is it God says I forgive sin for my own saying, if I said the Quran says that Allah is a loving his he will have fu he's forgiving, he's loving. He's not shallow, when his pound of flesh but he starts contradicting you, shall we the sins of the fathers in the third and fourth generation? You said, Look, the Bible says the soul that sinneth it shall die, not this endless. So it makes your task easier. From that point of view. You get my book is the Bible God's word. And I tell you now how to read study the Bible. The Christians are not reading the Quran studying the Quran and talking about the missionaries. They're doing with a prejudice mind they are
looking for false how they can exploit this against Muslim. Now I don't see any reason why we shouldn't also learn how we can use his book and this is qurani. And Allah says whenever they make a boast any claim, tell them cool how to
produce your evidence produce your proof in quantum Saad again, if you are speaking the truth, let's have a look at your proof. Your certificate that sends you to heaven invest in us to *. Let us have a look. So he produced it The Bible says
2000 different languages. Now what we are told, see, if Allah commands is to demand proof, it presupposes that our proof is produced, you'll be able to analyze it. And to be able to analyze it as I get my book absolutely free is the Bible God's word and study the Bible, according to that. So it becomes a weapon of attack and defense. Hope that answers your question.
This is the last one, this is definitely going to be the last question. So bear with me, please. The question says, Christians believe in Trinity. Would you please explain the word Trinity? And how would there be one? So if you could explain it in a couple of minutes?
Trinity.
You say this word Trinity is not in the Bible. Imagine a foundation of faith.
The foundation of Christianity, the Trinity, because that's what they're trying to tell us is the vcv squad is one this is what is one, but he's three in one.
The word Trinity is not in the Bible, believe me. It's not there. They talk about rapture, rapture, something's gonna happen towards the end. When Jesus comes in everybody, we lifted up rapture. The word rapture is not in the Bible. There are million Millenium, 1000 years of rule you know, when Jesus comes, is not in the Bible. Trinity, not the word Bible. Bible is not in the Bible.
Believe me, the word Bible is nowhere in the Bible and the Bible hasn't got inside. It's on the outside. Who put it there? You put it there. How did you get this word Bible? The word is from the Greek word blah, blah, smoke, and they put Bible Bible means book, Holy Bible means holy book. This word Bible is not in the Bible. Trinity, not there.
You see, we have the word Trinity in the Quran. Amazing. The Christian believes. He hasn't got it. The Quran has it. The word Trinity is in the Quran.
Amazing, isn't it? He believes it. In his book, it doesn't exist. We don't believe it is here. You know what it says? Voila. Taku selasa. Don't say Trinity.
Trinity, the Trinity. selasa Trinity. Boone, say Trinity means don't believe in things like that nonsense. In the Hydra Lacan, this is stupid. It'll be better for you. in Malawi, Allah wa. For your allies. One Allah is not three in one is not one in three. And at the great debate on Monday night, you see bleep when the surrogate has used this word, Trinity. The father is a person the son is a person in the Holy Ghost is a person, that type of thing, that they are all bodies, separate bodies. Father is different son is different. Holy Ghost is different. But they are one in a trinity. I was dealing with that. On Monday night. If you get the tape you'll see. So I was telling brother
Swaggart and the audience, I said, you see, the clearest verse on the Trinity is the first episode of john chapter five, verse seven, where it says, four there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, Jesus, the word, and the Holy Ghost, and these three are one. That is the clearest statement on the Holy Trinity.
But as you know, is not in my book.
It's not in my Bible.
It's not in my Bible.
So what he means not in your Bible,
maybe he thinks I printed it has been printed by your same church guru who printed this, the King James Version, it's in the King James Version. It is the Roman Catholic version is there, but now is thrown out by 32 scholars of the highest eminence, backed by 54 operating denominations, they produce the Bible called the Revised Standard Version, r s v, which goes to the most ancient manuscripts near us to Jesus. And in those manuscripts. This verse in the Trinity was not a this is an interpolation of fabrication and adulteration. And as such, Christian scholars have the highest eminence 32 scholars have the highest eminence backed by 50 cooperating denominations they threw it
out without any ceremony.
So that's how good your Trinity is. You got the word Trinity, which is not there in any Bible. Now, that verse itself is now thrown out as a fabrication. Little One Darla says for where you live Latina Yakubu Nikita Bobby ID so want to write the book with own hands from Morocco Luna has been in the law then they say this is from Allah Lucia Ruby feminine kalila that they may refer me some small reward some small benefit. Why me maka but a DM me magic Cebu. So both of them for what the hands do ride and hold with them for what they earn. But still, the book is very useful. You have to have this knowledge to be able to talk with them. So it says you have to study but you studied
In conjunction with that little booklet of mine, absolutely free of charge. I send 10,000 to Baton Rouge for that meeting. There are some still lying there 10,000 I sent by a airlifted them for the meeting. Understand 7000 were given out they still have them there his brother, Mohammed ghazali, from Lawrence, Kansas, as well as the people that MSA in in Baton Rouge. You know, you can get this book from them.
In conjunction, study the Bible in conjunction, and inshallah we'll be able to do a better job than whatever you're doing now. waffle Dhawan and Al hamdu Lillahi Rabbil alameen.
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