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I was wilhemina shaytani r rajim Bismillah R Rahman r Rahim. Ladies and gentlemen, brothers and sisters, I greet you with the universal salutation of Islam. Assalamu alaykum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh.
For a non Muslim audience, the meaning of this is made the peace, mercy and blessings of Allah be upon you all.
We are very privileged and honored from on behalf of the IPC AI to have a very distinguished speaker share that with us today. But we are even more so privileged to have a very dedicated Muslim, Dr. Yaqoob Zaki, who has traveled all the way from Scotland to chair our meeting. And I hand you over to Dr. Zeki
brothers and sisters in Islam.
I welcome you in the name of the Islamic Propagation center.
Before we start, I would like to invite Harvey
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Bismillah Hiroshima and Nagasaki,
Hello hacky sack.
For me, his name is also worth mistakes.
is the basic Christian and Jewish theologians
on Saturday that is central to the
finish I've explained to you the format of the question and answer session. So the
Bismillahi Rahmani Raheem.
Let me turn
Mr. Chairman, mid,
listening to the beautiful recital, by the curry.
I was being tempted
to change the topic from ankura on the miracle of miracles to what the Akari was trying to draw our attention to.
Just a word
he was reading low and
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Shatila said hey, this could have been revealed upon in mountain, the mountain would have shattered in shaken
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And giving you this similar tude that you may understand.
We do not understand
what an irony
is that we pass it. The virtual voice on heaven. The Gen men from Egypt you might have heard him in his heyday Kareem Abdul Samad, Abdul Basit, he was reading this in his own inimitable way.
Beautifully solo, I can't reproduce it. The Kareem I try. I can't reproduce it. But when he reads that, in that beautiful sonorous voice,
an immediate breath control
Quran, Allah, Allah Allah righto
Shatila when he finishes that, then, as if talking with you, he says what till
he starts and then he says is talking to you, his allies telling you this that you may understand, he did it three times, and the bulk of the people who are listening most of us nobody understood the world.
So, I was tempted to go on
the train, but as advertised the topic is output on the miracle of miracles in the eye I read to you from Surah Bani Israel,
we don't find any slide in the Quran.
If you have a trance
At home, which makes it an encyclopedia, this particular one badulla, Yusuf Ali, don't worry about the shape and the size every Abdullah use of Elise translation is the same page for page. It might be larger, it might be bulkier depending upon the type of paper that is used. But page every use of English translation is the same. Almost 2000 pages 114 sutras and where will you find Bani Israel? How
very difficult, especially for a non Arabs? I don't know how easy it is for the Arabs, but especially for us Muslims, who are non Arabs? How do you find bunnies right? Now if you have a translation like this,
don't worry about the color. It can be any color.
If it's usually exclusively at the end of it you find an index, a very comprehensive index, or do you want to know for the moment we want to find Bunny is Rei. So open be like in a dictionary at the end be look for bunny ba ni and Israel is a si si
his chapter 70 very easy to find. Because every page is numbered 30 pages numbered. The number 8888 is easy to find.
And you owe it to yourself
with a Muslim or non Muslim.
For the non Muslim, I say you owe it to yourself to find out this book of the Muslims. 1 billion Muslims in the world today one fifth of the whole human race. They believe in it as the veritable Word of God Allah Allah, whether you agree or not, you only to sell to find out what does this book say on the different subjects about your Jesus?
About the judgement day about heaven or hell anything? What do you want to know? What does this book say from that point of view, a belief of 1000 million people you ought to know what is the foundation of that religion. So you owe it to yourself to get a book. When Muslim you have no choice you got to have a book. Even if you understand the Quran dialect. In Arabic, you are an A scholar of Arabic, even when I say you need a translation, forgetting that look, the musician, the Pakistani, the Bangladeshi, whoever you are in this environment in Britain is imperative that you have a translation
because you may understand the Quran in your own dialect between you and Allah no problem. But as soon as you try to share this with the unbeliever,
it will be difficult for you to find the appropriate words. So therefore, everybody needs a translation in this environment. And the Quran I understand is made available by the local IPC I slammy publications and international they are available a volume of 2000 pages for six pounds, get it for yourself, get it for every member of their family, if you can afford it, that you can sit together on the table once a week and make your son or daughter to start from the beginning. So my son my child would read it and explain to your mother, my daughter read it explain to your mother and around the table the family around the Quran, inshallah it will create a bond which nothing else
can I suggest to you that you get the Quran operands and to give to your non Muslim employers or employees share it with
chapter 17 I am number 88 easy to find. There is another way of getting at this
the topic that we're discussing, I give you a reference and you can check it up.
But there is another way of getting at this. This is about bunnies, right? And all that in the Quran and the
Quran. What does the Quran say about the Quran?
What does the Quran say about itself?
You will know what what does the Quran say about Muhammad, big list. Everything that the Quran says about
his day. What do you want to know? So we look at the Koran and retell you that
nobody can produce this book.
except Allah. Where do you find it in Italy? 1788. Again, you can tell reference to this book, find chapter 17 was it that this is Alaska? No man, no group of men or spirits can produce this book. That is what the challenges
Via Kareem Salah Salaam is commanded to save
to the MR Hassan Quran, that is the whole of mankind and the spirit world, we're together together to produce a life of this good on saliva.
Never be able to produce even a better each other with help and support. In other words, Allah says it is impossible.
Impossible for the whole of mankind. And the genius your computer AI systems, the model genes involved, see whether you can work things out to produce anything like it, you'll never be able to produce it. That makes it
not only potentially you but non Muslims testify to that was what spirit
in his book, a Christian missionary in his book, Muhammad and mohammedanism
we know this wrong term. There is no such thing as a Mohammedan. And there is no such thing as mohammedanism
we use this term for ourselves because this is how the Westerner described us. In my youth when I went to school, in my country, you see the Muslim boys and the Hindu in the Christians, we all school together Indians, all Indians together with a Hindu, Muslim or Christian.
So first thing in the morning the teachers take on your hats.
So everybody, the Hindu boys and the Christian girls, they have the hats or capsules.
And they take it off. We used to wear those red faces those days Turkish hairs, you know like the Turks.
this is the way we show respect to you not by taking it off. accepted. All the boys, Hindus and Christians, we will shut pens, we will long pants. So why are you Muslim wearing long pants? We say?
We didn't know that we were Muslims. See, because the white man is calling us Muhammad anything that's the label because
we didn't know Islam. It took us a long time to realize that we are not no humans, because the West is calling us that because he's assuming that we are the worshipers of
the Christian they say we are Christians because we worship Christ.
Fair definition, the Buddhist worship Buddha. So the Buddhists fair definition. But there is no worshipper of Muhammad to have a Muhammad Ali.
They don't know that but they think we wish Muhammad he says no, we don't worship Muhammad Rasul Allah. Muhammad is the Servant and Messenger. We love respect and revere him, but he is not our God.
But in his book Muhammad and mohammedanism, Reverend boss wurtsmith speaking, Karim Salah Sam the Holy Prophet Muhammad and the Quran,
he says, illiterate himself
illiterate himself scarcely able to rewrite. He was yet the author of a book, really, he was not the author of book
is not the author of this book, the author of the book is Allah. But since a Westerner he thinks because Muhammad uttered it, he had indicated he is the author. So he says, He is the author of a book, which is
the code of laws, the Book of Common Prayer, and the Bible all in one, and his reverence to this day, by a sense of the whole human race as a miracle,
of purity, of style, of wisdom and of truth. It is the one miracle tamed by Muhammad, his pending miracle he called it
Indeed it is. This is an enemy talking. A Christian missionary. It's indeed
what what he saw.
I can tell you, he didn't tell me but he says the book is a miraculous book.
On the face of it.
You look at this book
is an encyclopedia. We no longer didn't write it.
But for the sake of argument,
we we agree with the enemy that wrote the book. In that case, this is a one man job if you wrote it,
but for the sake of argument, I hope you people understand the English that I'm talking because guys will go outside and say this guy wrote the book. I'm telling you, he didn't write the book.
But we are talking for the sake of argument the guy says the non Muslim he can understand his book as the book for this.
argument, you understand my language? I hope so. I hope so. Because I'm finding great difficulty
among people, most of them expect rates just come from India first generation, they have learned a smattering of English. And now when I'm talking, they can't understand. It's difficult for me I don't I'm used to talking, talking and talking, I think the guy has understood, but it's misunderstood. And he was looking for that.
To be key for what I was talking, I say for the sake of argument. Let's say Muhammad wrote a book.
Now, please, please, please, please, these things will happen shakedowns in places all over the world, they will be raising, don't worry about them. Right?
So this is a one man job.
He wrote it.
Complete to that we have an encyclopedia here, called the Holy Bible.
Ask any Christian missionary.
How many people authored this book, and the Christian missionary, the priest will tell you
different authors willing to produce this book. This is the Protestant Bible. It has 66 books in said booklets. all put together is the Holy Bible. How many people are able to produce this 640 40 different authors. The Roman Catholic Bible has 73 books. So you add another five new authors to be 45 waters to write the Roman Catholic Bible, this one.
This one, according to the unbeliever, one man job.
campaign, one man did this. For 30. Persons had to do that.
So can you see now and this man is the only only means and alert and learn it and let it he doesn't know how to read or write. And yet he produces this.
fall for sale. St. Paul, he wrote more than half the New Testament St. Paul, in the New Testament. This book is divided in two parts Old Testament New Testament, in the New Testament, there are 27 books,
shifts, little booklets 27 out of that 14, that's more than half more than 50% were written by one man. But if you just put them together
those 14 books is nothing more than this, what you see here.
So I say it's a miracle. In itself. It's just the volume of the work and the tools that is talking this, the solution is given to your problems. I say silica,
Allah is bringing attention to something more than that.
What is a miracle? Let me give you
a brief definition, what is a miracle?
A miracle is an event that appears so inexplicable, something you can't explain by the laws of nature, that it is held it to be supernatural, in origin, or an act of God, miracle number one, number two, definition, the person thing or event that excites admiring, or number three, an act beyond human power, an impossibility miracle, like, for example, in this heat,
And we try to revive the person and we failed. We shout for a doctor and the doctor comes along with the stethoscope system
is expired, certified by the doctor
Take it away, the cops give it to pay for burial.
But they comes along the man of God. He says
his man is alive. He says.
we will say it's a miracle. Man was certified dead. Time is revived instantly.
impossibility. But if a person was dead for three days, and put into the machinery
in the mall.
And after three days somebody comes along a man of God and he calls the person he says
by the command of God.
And the guy comes out of the mortuary England hottie we say is a greater miracle. Greater the impossibility greater the miracle. But after centuries, the body has decayed.
With dust and they comes along the man of God or trumpet is blown and everybody gets out of the grave
The way we say still a greater miracle, the greater the impossibility, the greater the miracle.
So here is the book.
Let's try and produce or like it. That's a challenge and produce one like it had 1400 years to do the job, and the world has not been able to produce one. But there are people who are good excuses, like the British, Arabic. The Germans, we say we don't know Arabic. The Americans that we don't know Arabic, is an excuse. process. Do you know that there are 15 million Arabs still extent
today, and they are not all nincompoops. They are unique people. Among them. The first book I tried to learn Arabic is a boy, young fella. And I went to the booksellers fought founding book called Egypt, in Arabic by spiral Bay. And spiral de was a Muslim leader, my phone is the Christian era.
But the Arabic was there. I learned from that book, many years ago, why this one is nice to thalassitis three, and all that I learned them, you know, so many years ago, but I haven't mastered Arabic yet. But however, the first book I handled in Arabic was written by a Christian era.
There are so many Christian Arabs 10 million in Egypt, in the Lebanon and all over 15 million
to do something like it, and the world has failed to produce impossibility, that you have the ability, nobody's judging you. Nobody's tying your hands linguistically, you know, the language may be better than the Muslim errors. But you can't produce the lack of this book, because it is Alaska lamb, and it is a miracle.
Now mankind has a habit
of asking men of God, for things supernatural, to believe, to lead them to believe.
A man of God comes along humans to guide mankind
to the right path to the way of God for your benefit. But man says no, I want to see you perform some tricks.
Someday man, men return to find a like a bird, or walk on the water and give life to the dead. This is what mankind is doing all the time. And they did it to Jesus, the predecessor of a wannabe, they did it to him. You read in the Gospel of St. Matthews.
In the Bible in the Christian Bible,
Gospel of St. Matthews, Chapter 12, verses 3039 40.
The Jews come to Jesus, he said, I am your Messiah. The men are waiting for the Messiah, I am he.
So this is no man. That doesn't satisfy us. We want you to show as a miracle. So they come to him. And they say most in the Hebrew language rabbi,
sarcastic this cast, but they say
we will have a sign of the we want you to show us an emulator that will convince us that you are the candidate we are waiting for. So Jesus is angered
said the things that I'm telling you I'm trying to lead you to God His Will his plan. And you want me to do some juggling tricks using a surface an acrobat on the surface or a clown.
So in English, he said, an evil and adulterous generation secret after assign What a horrible people but they shall be given unto it except the sign of the prophet Jonah. For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the whale, social the Son of man be three days and three nights in the belly of the Messiah except one.
What are you looking for? But this is a series of man. We will not go into the pros and cons What happened? what not. There is a booklet available. I don't have it at ABC. At this IPC I here in London. You get that booklet. It's only 12 pages. It's a small booklet the size of 12 pages. You master that and there isn't a Christian boy who can stand before you just die.
But of course you do. You want to take a pill and become a Superman. You know this is this my nation I know my soldiers.
You look this booklet can help you it's an instruction book. Without you practicing the instruction. just reading a book on Boxing you can become a boxer reading a book
It can make you a black belt karate expert, you will read a book on
the crawl in the stroke and you can become a swimmer. You have to get into the water, that nuclear, if you use it, memorize the words and you go to turn and there is no looking back. But I doubt if you will have that kind of that enthusiasm This is okay. This is good entertainment. I don't know you are entertaining, Shall I get the sub the blessings. So I'm trying to share with you but generally it's all entertainment. People come along to be entertained.
Over 600 days after Jesus
makes the claim that Allah has chosen him same day.
The Quran is come to him. They say waka boo, and they say Lola
see why is not a sign a miracle sent down to him from his Lord from Allah.
Allah, Allah, Zoo certainly signs miracles are in the hands of Allah.
in a clear cut one, that's my job, mine is not to entertain you. I'm not an act of circus Acrobat or a clown, I have come to deliver the message in the malaria in the mind and
it continues our lamea fe
classes is it not enough for them? And Allah Allah Calcutta that we have given the book,
lecture Nina, you grew up in front of them, they knew you as much as they knew their own sons as much as they know their own hands.
How could you reproduce this book?
Is it not enough for them? And Nyanza, law legal
industry Mathematica, Mathematica community.
This is drawing our attention to the unbeliever again and again, look at the book.
The book itself proves itself that this is no man may jaw. Look at the book again and again. Look at the book. In other words, the miracle you're looking for is here in front of you, Reverend boss will smith testifies, there are others, he arbury a Buddha, he translated the Quran into English is available here very good English. But it has two disadvantages. That is it has no index. And it has no commentary. And I suggest to my brothers and sisters, that if you ever want a translation, look for a translation, which has a commentary. Without a commentary is too heavy. The Quran is not a storybook, or a fairy tale. Once upon a time the Fox and the great the wolf and the lamb. It doesn't
look like that. So it's a very concentrated book, it has to be diluted for us. We are like little children, like little babes, we have to have a diluted
commentary that's a must have. Number two, it must have an index, because without an index again, your last
question is asking you what does your book say about my Lord Jesus? So when you start paging through
this book to the index, to look for j and the J look for Jesus. First item, the righteous prophet is a true prophet of God. Chapter Six was at five second item, his birth described in two places. Chapter Three, verses 42 onwards, Chapter 19 2300 words on your fingertips. Jesus Christ was mentioned in this book of God, no less than 25 times by me was the name of our Holy Prophet Muhammad in this book, which is supposed to occur only five times.
Why would a man go out of his way to speak about Jesus and his mother in shine? In his book, a chapter called Maria means Mary. There is no chapter in the Quran named Ayesha Khadija, or Amina his mother or Fatima, his daughter nothing but there is a Suba Maria chapter Mary.
And again and again you can account for him, he goes out of his way to exonerate Jesus, the Jews in the case
They were at loggerheads in the demo for IBS. They're at loggerheads now. But they are made united against us.
So they were low on the subject of Jesus. The Jew said that because he has gotten the Father, He is the illegitimate child of Mary.
That a Roman soldier by the name of Panda, he raped me. And this offspring is the result of that rape. stuffer Allah. This is what they say in the Talmud. The Jewish holy book The Talmud, that he is the illegitimate child of Mary in common language you what would they say?
The Christian say because he's got no father his father is God.
What is our position?
What does the Quran say? What must we say? What stand must be take? It would suit us at that time in history to suit our maybe endless Havas, to curry favor with the Jews. So what do you say 100% 100%?
Because it's the easy way out.
They are the Quran makes us to do to believe that Jesus Christ was one of the mightiest messengers of God, that Jesus Christ was born miraculously without any male intervention to believe that he was a messiah translated Christ, that He gave rise to the dead by God's permission, and he was born blind and lepers by God's permission. Now with all that low, is harder to fight. The Christian can find very easily he can follow and be an imposter, such and such and such. You can do that to Jesus. You can insinuate anything but merely we are tight, our lips are tight. We accept what Allah tells us in the Quran.
What does it say? To the Jews in the Christian it says
the book of Jews and Christians, not as Lucy Dini says, go to extremes in your religion. Don't go to extremes, Villa Taku Allah halal and booze. Anything about Alexa the tooth enamel merci masala Messiah translated Christ. He said Maria Ma, Jesus, the son of Mary Rasulullah is a messenger of Allah wa Kalamata, who, and they were proceeding from him. Aha. He Lama when he bestowed upon Mary and his spirit proceeded from him for a noble law. Hello, Sally. So believe in Allah and His Messenger Jesus, that there is one God, and Jesus Christ is this message.
This is what we used to believe, and we accept no arguments.
This either I quoted you about the sign science is in Surah, unka. Booth.
Booth, where do you find anchor booth as a go to the index and the a new forum Caboose, Italy, Chapter 29. Once you find 29 is a look for iron number 4849 50. Look at it and make a habit. Anybody gives you any reference, go and check up in the Quran at home now that you doubt the speaker, you would have
mentioned this, I like it, it tickled me. I want to go and verify for my own benefit. Because once you go through it again, in your own eyes, in your own mind, read it, it becomes your property. That knowledge at the moment is entertainment. Once you go and see it in the privacy of your own home, or read it to your children, to your wife to notice. This is what unconditional these are those speaking. And I can see this is what it says and read the commentary. Once you do that, that becomes a part of your own knowledge and you can in turn share with others. So this is the habit, I am recommending it to you.
And types of miracles.
You see to the men of science settlers in their approach a man of science, and you will prove to me that this book is a miracle.
Everything in here is a miracle. But now you have to not just saying it is not enough we have to prove it to him.
I'd like to move from you. The man of science, the is the agnostic, this man of many general is a man of learning. He said there is no God.
In so much he knows how to account for things, is it look this is how it's working the solar system. You see, our earth is rotating on its axis at a speed of 1000 miles an hour. It gives us 24 hours to for one revolution and this is what happens is an axis and this is the use of the axis wives are turning like that and not perpendicular. He said you see if it was doing like this, then there will be no seasons there will be any life and all in all he'll explain to you beautiful explanation and give you why this and why that
Why the gases are in this combination? Why not that? We wouldn't be here to argue? If it wasn't. So everything must be the way it is. The distance from the Sun, the distance from the moon, everything must be exact. You bring the sun in India, no life. If you take it any further in your life, you reduce the speed of this earth by half new life, if it's your life.
Everything is made for us as if the tailor made you meet this exact And who is this? The guy who doesn't believe in God? He's telling you all these things.
So I asked him, I said, Look, this
hour of the solar system,
how did it come about? Tell us and he's ready. He's ready to share with you.
That is not amazing.
The smell of science, you probably you asked him for information, and he'll come out, he wants to tell you, because it gives him joy. Pleasure.
So did you see this universe of ours was one
of years ago,
and there was a big bang.
And after the Big Bang, the solar system came into being everything started moving. And since there was no resistance in space, and it carries on and everything carries on and like machines betting on machines.
find this out.
He said yesterday,
really 15 years is yesterday in the history of men 50 years ago, he said yesterday
and as a fact 50 years is yesterday in the history of man.
And literature men in the desert
1400 years ago who had been telescopes, and will mathematical equal without anything in mathematics, nothing in the desert, new libraries. People, nobody in the world knew at that time. At that time in the history of mankind. This man says
do the unbeliever see this guy who said there is no God? Can you see? Can you see? As if Allah say that Luke is in the desert? in
my presence, I can understand this barbarian this cannibal in the Congo. If he can understand I can understand I can sympathize with him. But you with all your money? How can you not see him?
the unbeliever See?
The heavens and earth are joined together as one unit of creation for Saturday and Sunday.
And where did life come from? Asking the biologist? Who did he say from the water?
A few years ago, life originated in the sea everything protoplasm and Amoeba and this ever happened and a group of them they choose for themselves that will make ourselves into an elephant
to a man
because the monkey another into a cockroach into a lice.
But where did life come from? He says water. When did you find that out?
He said yesterday was 50 years is history in the history of man is a recent discovery. And enlisted men in the desert. He told you that 1400 years ago sir never listen to him. He says
in high end is made from water has been living.
Believe, how can you not believe what you believe this is what your knowledge is telling you. And this man is telling you 1400 years of in the desert. He spells it out for you to get the knowledge from except from the creator of the Big Bang, except from the theory of all creatures life from what? How did Muhammad Moses? Did he have microscopes? Did he go to the sea and look for it in the water any life? Life germs.
This is coming from the Almighty. It's a miracle that a lot of men can tell you this 1400 years in the desert, which are only confirming today.
For sisters, there is so much I have written a book on this topic
on the miracle of miracles, that is taking the ship. We try to ship it before time that people could have it. But unfortunately the ship is in but it's going to take us another week or 10 days to clear it
As soon as the book is clear on the miracle of miracles, it will be available from the Islamic Propagation center dealing with so many different aspects of the Quran, the miracle of miracles. But let me give you something very easy that you can take with you on
any book, if it claims to be from God?
We want to know what it says about God.
We need to know this book, he says from God, the Bible is from God that the Ramayana is from God. So, you can see what the book says about God. So in this particular volume and talking about which is available day outside,
you owe it to yourself to take one home
and I assure you, I will not get any commission, no commission from my commissioning. inshallah he will give it to me and just give you a few of the subjects the topics that this speaks about God, if God says about God, first, let's see what he says out himself. So we open the book in the G, look for G
144 references. If I just start reading that alone.
I don't waste your time. Just to give you a few. First item god, he's your cherished Lord sustainer evolver chapter one is number two is your guardian Lord. He is a guardian of the Watchtower. He is protected.
He says guardians are men. He is the helper of god how to be solid and on and on. He is the Lord of all bounties wrote of bounties his band is open to all his nose man before He is merciful, his most kind is full of loving kindness is inefficient. His love whispered on the righteous is forgiving. He guides his favors. He is the orphans shelter, he is the one that is guide. He satisfies your needs.
God, God present everywhere. He gives you life. He gives life and death. He takes the souls of men to him go back all questions for decision in the final he is the arbitrator when he tells his right is right what is wrong is wrong. He will tell you this is black, it's black and white is white.
is unity. That is one and only so many references is one not one in a trinity.
You don't have to have a movie Gordon sons, his daughter's new partner says wise and on and on and on about 144 references, meanwhile law
How do you know him through these attributes? His qualities in the hour that I read, he gave his attributes will love la de La La Villa in LA who is allowed because there is no God as Malik the king, the Holy One, a salon the source of peace and perfection and on and on and on.
And Allah gives us 99 attributes. Yoda magnoli
He is just, He is merciful. He is living
He's compassionate, he's omnipotent, is omniscient and on and on and on. When we think nine attributes with the President is a necklace of 99 attributes with the maintaining a law, a proper noun a law
we did this man get it. He says he was inspired by God and he doesn't do like an obituary
is interspersed throughout the Quran. The Jews suppose that all intersperse
beautifully done you don't you're not aware that somebody is going out to contrive a list
this man of God he gave us 99 attributes you clever man you professor of language I would like to know how many can you guess concoct
how many you know the rest of us can be more than a dozen try try try the clever guys. That you know doctors, lawyers, professors is a common thing man. Tell me Give me some attributes of God is his kind. merciful is only as good as
he can go beyond.
I said this in the treatment in the desert he gave you 99
so the guy said he's a genius. And genius can always be 10 times better than us.
He's accounted for it. So once you bring it down to his level of genius
Then we can see the genius
finish. He doesn't have to accept it, once he can see is a genius
10 times cleverer than me,
that doesn't make it a miracle.
Now Sasha the miracle,
the miracle is that the one we get out of the book
amazing, but the 99 but the one that is no, that makes it a miracle.
So, how can that be? I said, you see for 23 years, it took the Holy Prophet Muhammad 23 years to dictate this complete 23 years. During the course of the 23 years he gave us 99 which you say because it is a very clever man. But as a you know, in the list that you are giving me, within the first half a dozen within the first six, you must talk about the Father in heaven.
As a natural father, he is our father, the loving Father in heaven, beautiful.
So beautiful expression, the Father in heaven, who Our Father which art in heaven,
hallowed be thy name, thy kingdom come Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven beautiful
but we in Islam we eschew it
is an Islamic
we expressions beautiful sentiments are good,
but the Muslim will not take it because
Allah tala made him to see that that whole father was not one of those attributes.
Instead of father with Arabic is
Indian Hebrew is a woman's father,
which is easier than the one Robert
crumb friend is harder than
bellami Praise be to Allah rub is the Lord cherisher sustainer evolver of mankind Rub, rub, rub.
What's wrong with it? As a beautiful expression?
Beautiful, then why did I choose or Allah made me not to have the word inside when it's easier on the child then?
Because this word
has other connotations.
He might have certain misunderstandings with a Christian is going out of his way to emphasize he says in his catechism
the Anglican Methodist, the Presbyterian, the need for all of them, the only Catholic they all in the Catechism, universe catechism, the Shahada in the book of Shahada, what are they supposed to believe, like what we are supposed to believe, to be lie? like it to be? A lie? That's catechism. Their catechism in that they say
Jesus is the only begotten Son Bickerton not made.
This is the
the most of Shahada, this is Jesus is the only begotten Son begotten not made,
Allah is abhorred.
What can you say?
He acts in the Holy Quran, he cries out, he dies, we can be assistance, but I can't help you. I don't know what other words I can tell you to express to you is
that what they say? He says Rahmani vologda and they say that our merciful God has become a Sonny
is one of the most abominable assertion one can make.
any one of you start getting into trouble at question time? Am I get angry with you?
And in anger as a grown man, you're a fool. What do you do when you punch me? The old man is tired. You know, when people have a tendency to get angry quickly. Like an old man like me. He went to the hacking hacking the doctor is confused.
He says you can see very, very clearly. So the hacking says you see your own is a sign of old age. You saw me putting on the specs. Is this a sign of old age? So you know Hakeem Saba can hear properly. This is a sign of old age. is a young Hakeem sir My boobs are creaking.
It is a sign of old age.
And the old man lost his temper and slapped him in the face. This is also a sign of old age.
So I can get angry with you. You have extremely
strong people want to sound like that, like a young boxer and everybody wants to box with me, because I sound like I sound like an old man. So in my anger say you're a fool.
What you do is laugh it off. As you go, you're an ox.
But you didn't laugh it off.
As a young monkey, would you laugh it off? But if I said something about another
actually is already gone.
daughters, sisters will otherwise
call me what you might call me Don't call me fool call me what you like But don't take my mother's name. Don't take my wife's name, not my sister's not my daughter's name, you understand.
So, you can give this
to some other men who are ready to burst
out and go to split asunder
and the mountains to fall down in
that they should say that the merciful God has been
with the heavens or feeling like you
are feeling emotions like you with among them that feeling emotions like you shattered to pieces such a horrible feeling
whether you're a Pakistani or Pakistani,
or Bangladeshi, or
I'm talking about the learning because the bulk of us we don't know about these verses in the Quran that allies cry, you don't know.
But you may
not know why.
It's a joke. When the Christians say Jesus is the only begotten Son, they could not make. What do you
Is that what you do when you go home? And you know that the guy next door? You're sorry me like this?
I don't use the words but what he does for your mother, or your wife or your daughter? What did you
is him for good.
And if I can do it, I've had again, Norman cost me 1000 pounds.
This much how much we love our mothers, our sisters, our daughters, but we say we love a lot more than anything else. And when they say things to him, what do you do?
in Tripoli? monkeys and monkeys?
What is it? Do? You laugh? We joke is that a joke?
You look out for a bus. You wait for the destruction and we are ready.
You don't want to fall on the head. You don't strangle you don't put an iPhone.
And even it's so easy to talk to the English speaking people.
So easy, unbelievably easy. We are foreigners. You can see it in your faces you can never become an English man.
You know, Bengali will be Bengali and you will be Hindi enumeration, enumeration. You can never be a white man. You will never be normal how you speak you sound like a white man but was a serious way you come from
use that that weakness of ours is a strength.
And you might need the Christian who says this that Jesus is the only begotten son.
He says Sir, will you please explain to me I don't understand English. Tell me when you say begotten made. What are you trying to emphasize?
Can you ask a question?
When you say not made What are you really trying to tell me that so please explain. I don't understand your language.
No English language can open his mouth.
The message you know shout as he is strangling his
talk to him
in white or
To the ways of the Lord with wisdom, well known as a fascinating, beautiful preaching, seven asking this question to British, nobody opens his mouth. And the Americans and one American had the guts. It wasn't an occasion I was guiding him around the mosque in Moscow. And somehow we came across this topic. So I'm asking him to say, because not me, what are you trying to emphasize? What does it mean, since that is silent by God?
Isn't I didn't say that. I'm only telling you that what it means sired by God.
Exactly. That's why I
and the way to rectify,
so get the some of these little books of mine. So for 23 years,
this whole Father, in this book is a good one. But it has other connotations. He is the father of Jesus Christ, he got me to marry because his son, because budgeting is an animal act, it belongs to the lower and malfunctions of sex. Are you attribute such a quality to God? He says No. Then why are you singing? it?
knows if they have any meaning in every language they have meaning. What does it mean? like to give you a crude example, when a few young men here
you must understand that right?
Imagine my son, if I were to call you my son, you
know, he doesn't mind. meeting your father or mother would mind it.
Says out of love and feeling is like a son to me. He thinks I'm like an uncle grandfather.
I call him a son. Cha Cha Dada Nana, okay.
But if I take you for a visit to his house, maybe I know him more intimately than you think. And I think it's a little bit a friend of mine living here. And we'll have tea. And we go to his house. And I'm asking where his
use of my son.
bus is named, for example, uses my son. So his mom says Mr. Luke is just going to the shop. We'll come back this time. So that okay, and Joseph comes and I embrace it. myself.
My companion, who doesn't know what relationship is asking me? Is it really your son?
says no, you see, this young man loves me like a father like a grandfather. I call him a son. And he calls me Nana, dada. Okay. But instead if I said, Yes, please my Bugatti Sorry,
sir. The meaning changes. The meaning changes his son, you know what I'm saying?
The ability street language, you know what I'm saying? That is a bastard.
I'm slowing him in a meaningful way. He's nice. Because I said he's gotten some worse.
I'm sorry. He's a bastard is a bastard of the highest. He's my only child.
And if he catches the job's Uncle, what did you say? I said, I don't mean that. But I'm still selling doesn't really look like my use of at home.
So my dear sisters, Mr. Chairman, and I feel like keeping you here much longer, but I don't think I would, I would rather give you a chance to ask questions, things that you might want to know further about the Quran on how you handle different problems. When you are confronted with the unbelievers arguing and debating with you said you did your best, but you are not satisfied with your best How would uncover that do such a thing? How would you answer it? Maybe I might have a better way. Or maybe I'll learn from you. So with these words, I say, Mr. Chairman, and my dear brothers and sisters, just
invited a very stern disciplinarian.
Mr. Ibrahim Lockhart, who will explain to you the format of the question and answer session.
This was Manny Rahim Assalamualaikum. I hope you don't take the cue from the chairman and actually believe that I understand discipline, disciplinary and excuse me for that, but I'll be firm and fair. Before I go into the format. I just want to thank once again, the Layton society and the IPC I London for inviting shake ama dealers and myself from South Africa to come and talk to you here this evening. It really is wonderful to see our brethren because we are very close in South Africa. To the Mauritian community. We go there for holiday
They come to us for holidays. they marry our sisters sometime.
So we are very close to the Mauritian, and it's good to see that the little.in the Indian Ocean Island is starting to make a comma here in England Alhamdulillah.
As far as the format that goes for the question time tonight,
I want to draw attention to the following points. We are going to handle it in this manner.
I am going to ask after I've explained the format for all the people desirous of posing a question to the speaker to form a queue here in the front, it's very difficult to look at the show of hands. So we will ask you to form a queue at the front not now when I have finished explaining the format to you. Secondly, I will draw your attention to the fact that the questions must be confined to the subject of the lecture delivered tonight. I think it is only fair with an audience of this size. As the chairman pointed out, we could be here all night, if we have an open agenda. so kindly confine your questions to the topic of the lecture.
I would like to point out that I will disqualify statements. It's question time, not statements time. I'm aware that there are some of us that will try and sneak a statement in in the guise of a question. Well, good luck if you get past me, but I will disqualify it, because it is Christian time. I must also tell you that I will allow one question per questioner.
If you have more than one question, it will only be fair if I ask you to go again to the back of the queue. So it's one question at a time, please.
As far as the questions are concerned,
if you would give you a question to me, I would like to repeat it for the audience, because they may not be able to hear you, then shakey that will answer the question, so all questions will be put through to me, please.
it is a reality that not everybody will be able to get the questions answered with the sheer numbers. And it's also a reality that not every question will elicit the answer that you may hope, because you only need two people to have a difference of opinion.
It only needs two people, people have different perceptions. Reminds me of a story where two people are in a prison, they say one looked out, saw the stars the other looked out and saw the crown, same prison, same cells, same window, both looking at both see different points of views. We're not here to canvass your vote tonight, to ask you to agree with everything that brother deedat says. So they will be variances of opinions. And that's healthy. So with that, having explained the rules through to you, I would now like to throw it open to question time. Will all those that have questions, please form a queue here before we proceed.
Okay, brothers, we'll be on our way in a minute. Now, I would like you to the gentlemen that stay we will be cutting off the anybody else joining the queue will not be we will not take the questions after that. So will you please join the queue? JazakAllah. Somali consistent your question please.
Yes. Well, what I'm interested in is just the Trinitarian concept that is in the Bible. And like you said, john 316, For God so loved the world. And
I have been to Christian university for the last couple years, and studying Christian courses. But nobody, none of my professors was able to tell me where this concept originates in history, you have studied comparative religion, would you be able to tell me in history where it originates is, is it a creation of Paul? Is it the creation of Paul in accordance Rome, or, you know, my professors wouldn't or couldn't tell? And I would like to, I will repeat the question as briefly as I can, and very briefly, is the lady poses to shake it that way the concept of Trinitarian emerge, because she has not been able to find the answers from other sources. Where did the concept of Trinitarian
has been involved with the Egyptians. It has been involved with the Hindus, Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva, it has been involved with the pagan cults. But now how did we get into Christianity? Jesus Christ, he never preached Trinity at any time.
We read in the Gospel of St. Mary
Mark, I think chapter 12 verse 29, that a learned man of the Jew comes to Jesus and says, Master, in the Hebrew language Rabbi Mawlana Shaykh Sahib. What commandment is the first of all, that will kill him? What is it? In Jesus answers and says unto him, in the Hebrew language, Sasha is Rory Adonai eloheinu Adonai, which means hail Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. If he had come to preach Trinity, that was the time to tell them, tell the man that for the three day pay record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost, and these three are one, he said nothing of the kind. But the voice that I just said that I uttered is in
the Christian Bible, in the Roman Catholic version of the Bible, it's there. In the authorized King James Version of the Bible, it's there. It is, in the first episode, hello, john, chapter five, verse seven.
First, a pistol of john is called one john five, seven is there, for there are three that they report in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost, and these three are one that is the closest approximation to what the Christians called the Holy Trinity.
But if you take any modern Bible today, any modern translation, the revised version, the Revised Standard Version, the American Standard Version, the New International Version of any Bible that you take up today, this verse is thrown out as a fabrication by the Christians, not by the Muslims. The Holy Quran tells us to tell them, Why Allah Kaku salasar will say Trinity in Ohio, Lacan, this is perfect, it will be better for you, in number L'Aquila, for you on line 131. And now as is happening to that
command, the Christians have thrown it out as a fabrication because it is a fabrication. Because in the most ancient manuscripts that Christians have, this was was not there. It entered into Christian nun for the first time in the sixth century, have certainly vigils of taxes. He made a marginal note on his manuscripts for his own edification, or maybe for his children. But this model note when they came across that manuscript, when they wanted to print it, the marginal note became a part of the text. Now they discovered that this is they had no right to do that. This is the fabrication interpolation. So as such as sincere people, they threw it out that the doctrine they can let go,
was in the blue automatically, there are Muslims. So this is the thing that's holding them back. God the Father, God, the Son, God, the Holy Ghost, it was first invented in the in the year 325, and the Constantine, and then escalated Nicene Creed. This is how they formulated it, that the Father is God, the son is God, and the Holy Ghost is God. But they're not three Gods but when God
the Catechism, the Nicene Creed, it continues, the father is almighty, the son is almighty and the Holy Ghost is almighty, but they're not the Almighty. Almighty. It continues. The father is a person, the son is a person and the Google the Holy Ghost is a person that there are no 3% or one person.
You see, we all get bamboozled. This is not our language, English is a foreign language, no matter how much you are an expert is still foreign to you. So we think maybe it makes sense to the British or to the English speaking person.
person, Person person, but not 3% or 1%. Is that English? I'm asking him because I seem to move that this is not English, although I'm not so educated. But I know this is not English, as it is that English. He said yes. I said Don't be silly. This is gibberish. You said person, Person person, but not 3%. What language is that? That's gibberish. That's not English. What is a person? Please explain to me in your language. What is the person said this is how simple it is to know the giant.
Ask him in humility. Please explain to me what is a purse? If you and your two other brothers are identical triplets, I can make out the difference between the three of you identical.
If you commit murder, can I hang the other? Can you hang the other?
Why not? says no. So why not? He said he's a different person. What makes him a different person is his personality.
So the father his personality when you say the father or you think of the son, he says no. When you say the son of the Holy Ghost, you say no unless your mind is diseased.
So the father is a different picture. The son is an
picture in your mind, the whole uses a different picture. These are three distinct pictures. And you can never superimpose these three and create one. You see me my father's photo. If I take a negative picture, take a negative and my son's picture take a negative, when we superimpose, we can create a common picture, which will look like my father will look like me and look at my son.
But when you take the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost, you can never create a picture. Father is different, though a Father Christmas sitting in heaven with his feet, who has a loving father in heaven, billions of times bigger than men or something like that. When you say that the sun is rising of price.
No, do you think of a handsome young man? like we saw in the King of kings, Jeffrey Hunter was acting with blue eyes, blonde hair,
says you're thinking of a man. When you see the Holy Ghost as a utility, like something that came like a duck with Jesus or depth as in the river journey, or something that came in flames of fire at Pentecost, the picture is not very vivid, but the picture is there. He says, Now merge them into one.
But I asked you
be honest and asking the question, tell me how many pictures Do you see?
So you're like, I can't take them out and shoot to the side.
But however, that's all philosophical. Next question, please. Next,
check this out this set of medication, there's only one version of the class. Now, some of our some of the brothers that have published a book that accusing our shared purpose that they have a different Quran from one chapter added, entitled Serato wilaya. And they've given a photocopy. Could you please comment on that there is only one Quran stay.
If a person chooses to add anything,
you can hold his hands, whether is a Christian or a Muslim or whatever, whoever he is, he chooses, look, you see this thing is missing in from which book? When was it taken out? Because every Quran we come across in the world, we go to China, the oldest one you can lay your hands on, you go to Indonesia, go to India, anywhere in the world. There are no two Quran, the Arabic Quran.
I'm not talking about translations. In translations, you have a choice of words, you know how one feels that he can convey the message better than the other? There is a difference of choice of words. But there is no such thing as the version is you know what the version is the fishing version, the new version seven books more than the protesting version that's next to version seven, no books, these people threw it out different version, Revised Standard Version, suddenly versus thrown out as a fabrication. That's a version in the Quran, all the currents in the world that I knew, I'm 74 now. And my father and my grandfather's we know there is only one version of the Quran
of the Arabic Quran. If people choose to say this and that we have a right to question them. We didn't get that shot, when he was taken out and who to get out. That voice that you say, for example, was supposed to be in the Quran, who took it out this alley, take it out. This has Horace Mann or Abu Bakr who took it out way even proof of that. So the thing is, there is only one Quran, the Arabic Quran muku versions
Somalia complex a lot for the lecture. The question is, which remains, in my mind is not the miracle of the Holy Quran? Because you've just confirmed that many oldest thinkers and writers and even scientists have done so. But
the question is on how can we convince the politicians of the super super power of g7 now and
even the politician of the Muslims country,
which obviously they are not grown in according to Quranic teaching, neither do they behave according to it. So this could you reply to the answer.
The only way I know is
like other nebia Kareem Salah loves him. He did. What did he do? He was surrounded by the superpowers of his day, the Persian Empire, the Roman Empire. He was surrounded by mushriks mushriks of NACA, he was surrounded by Jews, he was surrounded by Christians he was surrounded by unifix hypocrites. How did he convey the message to the same minute. In other words, the problem with as is with as well as a we as Muslims, all of us. We haven't done our job for 1000 years. We haven't open our mouths.
We haven't spoken to the Jews or the Christians.
Allah, Allah is addressing the Jews in the Christian in the Quran again and again he ll kita
kita. Will people have the book, People of the Book ask anybody, any later person among the Muslim who is our lead? kita? Is Jews and Christians?
You have an Israel, which will of Israel, which will watch when we say you know, he said the Jews.
Now this message that Allah gave you, we are the postman. Allah, postman, one third of the Quran is addressed to Jews and Christians. You won't deliver the message. You have done exactly the same of the Jews did. They made their religion eration religion? We don't make it a religion, that somehow we are not prepared to deliver the message. You are only a postman. I'm only a postman. Have you delivered that message? answer is no. Have you delivered the message to the Muslims? I give you an example that allies crying from Hyeon what these people are doing to me what they're saying about me. There's any Muslim react, this would actually remove it. You know why? Because
you read actually you rattle it off. We call it finishing the Quran. Ask any Muslim, my people. How many times we did last Ramadan is the I did one my wife did 510. What happened? What is finishing?
I'm telling that this Quran is not a finishing.
This Quran is there is to be implemented. What you read, you understand you go and implement it. Allah is telling you to call the Jews and the Christians call Yahoo al Qaeda, tala.
And I'm asking what I'm asking. I asked the learned men of Egypt, I'm asking the people in Arabia, in the Arab countries. I'm asking them Do you read the Quran? He said yes. As you understand the Quran said of course in what like you hear this? This me my nation is not like movies, you rattle it off, you don't know what you read is accepted.
I won't go into pros and cons What happened? How do you read the stage that we are we can recite the Quran houses in Quran sorry, and we didn't say how that system came about is a long story.
But the fact is, you understand the Quran? He said yes. As soon as Allah is telling you
is telling everybody we are all responsible, but most specially you because you understand.
You understand what the message is? Allah says, Yeah, hello kita kita co people in the book, la De Luca Dini, this is brilliant go to extremes in your religion. Did you tell them that? The guy says no, I'm talking about the loaded banner. He says no, so unlikely you
say anyone who said that Jesus Christ, the Son of God is making Kufa is an act of blasphemy, treason against Allah. wa Taala mercy, but Christ said, Have a nice ride
with my Lord and your Lord.
Whoever will associate anyone with Allah. Allah, Allah, Allah Allah Jonathan for them.
And the final place Mama salamin I'm sorry.
Did you tell them that? He says no.
Forget the hindi hindi hindi immigration and Bangladeshi forget them Indonesian forget them. Nigerians forget that. I'm talking about the Arabs I'm telling the Arab I'm asking him sir lastly you tell them Bala Taku selasa Moon say Trinity in this is probably better for you in number lower
for Allah is one Allah did you tell them that
Salah is telling you all tell them
what it means.
this is the sickness. We have been in the job for 1000 years. So we lost the art. Once you stop doing anything, your muscles you have done exercise and for five years 10 years you will become flabby and start getting lost.
Anything that you do your brains You don't know anything he didn't think you will become like a vegetable cabbage with a piece of cabbage. This is the nature of God. You have to be always on the go on the ball.
You allow yourself to get into this rut. This is the destiny. So the thing to do is to almost in practice until you
really do understanding and apply what you read what you understand when applied,
and share this, share this with your fellow countrymen with a G seven, or G 10. or whatever it is, go and share it with the Americans to the British friend German. So go and deliver the message man, you haven't done it. So, this will be our eternal situation what we find now no difference, you can change. If you want to change, you have to be committed and you want to share. Once you want to share you find ways and means how can I share? How can I make the person to listen to me and inshallah will do the job because this is the destiny of Islam. Allah says he This was sent as missing David guidance
and with the division of truth, he is a hero who Allah denicola that it will prevail, overcome and supersede every other de every other way of life. Every ideology, whether it be Hinduism, Buddhism, Christianity, Islam, communism, Jara, Cyrus, Jainism, whatever ism is destined to master them or lose them all.
Allah says No, mine
might not like it. This is the destiny of his day. I'm asking resistance here, even even that I want to hear I want to hear from you.
A little louder so that I can be recorded your voice. We believe in it.
This is what the NSA say.
The Arabs, the Saudis, the Egyptians, the Kuwaitis, the bahrainis, say response? If you say you don't, you're not a Muslim.
And worried about you. You can go to hell, I don't care.
Anybody says yes and loudly. So
that means you believe in it. They say yes.
I said Is that why you sit on your backside doing nothing.
If you believe this, you got the laser gun. You didn't like this. You have your sons and daughters, our brothers bringing up the bones of Jews or bringing up the bones in Palestine. You just sit like this, like a jellyfish.
The reason is, you don't really really, if you really believe your direction.
So the thing is, my dear brother, my son, go to the Quran. Allah Allah to talk to you and to me and to every pastor by industry, because unlike speaking to you to me and to every pastor by industry, and we have the advantage that our Lega Karim Salah Salim he needed to bring in messages. Without God, you have the message now direct contact with Allah, Allah, listen to him, and go and implemented and inshallah g seven g 14, we will be able to do the job, it's up to you. The onus is on you, and me and every one of us, as best
as the subject is on vehicles, from previous lectures, have meant to have understood that nutrition is fundamentally one of the most fundamental issues in believing that Jesus was God is because of the miracles he was one of the greatest miracles, it wasn't a better life. We are made to believe that we are literally the Old Testament also.
In that case,
is very great.
He has the logic is very good, beautiful. You see Jesus gave life to the dead. The Quran says Bismillah
by Allah as the Bible says the very same thing, that he didn't give life to the dead. If you read the verses, so we can go into the details and analyze the miracles. But in the Bible also, Jesus doesn't say he does the works is that I buy the finger of God cast out devils I, by the Spirit of God do these things. So I have my own self can do nothing. Who does it? It is you who does the work. Allah has been working through him. So he is
giving life to the dead or any miracle everything says Allah, you are doing it, you are doing it, because not me. But the Christian say he gave life to that moment again, we agree with him. So in that case, we say it's a great miracle. Lazarus they say after three days he was revived from the day fantastic.
But as is not as you mentioned, you reminded me that
the miracle Allah gave him to him was that he was told that
Assad Iran, go before federal, and you go through it, and it will become a serpent, the snake. And this serpent that has come to the rod became a serpent can be swallowed up all the little snakes of the Egyptians, which are the little magic ones. And when it was swallowed up in musasa, and picked up the rod, all those little roars of snakes had vanished. And the Egyptian magicians realized that this is not magic. Magic is a type of illusion, you create people till you did this and you did that maybe a sleight of hand quickness of hand, this is the i o This is gonna happen. We don't know what what the guy does. But we are marveling because we couldn't account for what what he did. But the
Egyptian magician when we read the Quran, they confessed that this is not magic. Because magic would be you are mesmerized, somebody mesmerizes you but again to normal, the sticks become sticks means snakes, and the raw began raw, but no little sticks had vanished with the goal, and the rod is still the same. So giving life to the rod, this is an inanimate thing
is a dead piece of mind. I said, a man dies certified dead, to bring him back to life is a miracle, but is not as astonishing. As you take a piece this pen here, my pen, if I can make this into a little snake, that will be greater if genuinely if I can make this interest make. And you feel it and you can feel that when it is let it go. And somebody else picks it up and he lets it go, this is no this is genuine, this is tiny serpent, this will be greater than giving life to the dead, because this is dead, dead dead, is dead, dead dead, and you make it animate.
First dead vegetable.
throat is a dead piece of wood vegetable. He gives life to that and makes it into an animate object, a snake, still a miracle. So if this is the standard by judging when Moses would be a greater God, Jesus, if you analyze and read the miracles, thank you for your
understanding of the meaning of
There is nothing better
than to understand the Quran in the language which Allah has revealed. Translation is a translation it can never be equal to the Arabic Quran because this is a last column his words and they have many and a feeling which you can produce in a translation that we are hungry people
are hungry even biryani biryani is you can get
a doll and rice will do
Chroma bread and some will do to assuage your hunger. The translation is just that. But in the meantime, if you strict yes or no you must learn the Arabic language before you read the Quran, you might never come to that therefore, the second best is a translation. And if you understand better than any other language, you get an odd translation. If you understand Bengali better than any other language get a Bengali translation. If you understand Gujarati better than any other language get a good translation they are available. But in this environment, I said in English translation is imperative. And the cheapest and the best in the most organized is this one, I'm showing you. This
one here by Abdullah Yusuf Ali, they're available outside, as well as all my little booklets that I have written, Christ in Islam is the Bible, God's word and all that there are any two for town, any two for a pound, or 50 pence each. And again, I assure you, no commission for me, except Allah. Thank
God for a person like to share data among us
on that basis. Also, I know that's a pity that does not mean much for questions. He's always explaining very well, I've seen his tapes, and I've seen very perplexed when you come in what I have found the one little thing which our instructor suggestion that he has never touched upon the fact that this is a book which is done by heart by more people than ever in the world. And it is really a miracle to me. How would you like to
remember that? That was a statement but will allow it
he has an idea versus a look. As I said, there are so many things I can keep you here till midnight just on the subject of Al Quran, the miracle of miracles, but everything, even good things they hit is in into that. This, this idea of this fact that we have so many who fast at the moment there are 4 million half a million
What in the world, somebody's estimated 4 million people who knew the whole crime by heart from one end to the other, they can read it off. And the greater miracle of that is that both of the people who know the Quran, they don't understand one word.
Those no other language on Earth, that you can rattle off a language without understanding what you're saying. And they say beautifully, perfectly. So this is still a great America, but I'm not very proud of it. That miracle, I'm not very proud. as brothers and sisters, you ought to know what you're eating, make an effort in Arabic, get a translation and try and correlate correlate, and over the period passively, you learn the language, or at least the Quranic words, that whenever you hear
you keep on you believe.
Or you believe over a period, when the man is dealing
you will be able to catch it is here they, and it will be more lively and more spiritually enlightening, elevating than just listening to the sound of the Quran. Yes.
signs in the Quran for the end of the world. And how does this compare with some of the biblical signs which says, one of the final ones is that the Jews are below their original potential.
In the exact location of the room of the Dome of the Rock, tables and sisters in this Quran, I think if you have a translation, usually, you have
you open up,
you open up the index, go to the index, and you find a here after
you find the deal of judgment.
There are more than 100 References
about the day of judgment and about the life you're after. Now you do a little bit of homework, go through this and inshallah you will be able to come along and inform us. In other words, now, I have I haven't done a study of that, I must confess, is there. But I haven't had the chance of coming to it yet. So now I'm going to start fumbling and guessing trying to grapple this and that'll start opening and reading now, which is impossible for me to start reading and responding to his lecture and another lecture in another lecture. But I give you that little homework to do. You go along and look up the Day of Judgment judgment in the index, and you look up here after in the index, and you
just go through that inshallah, by the time you finish, you will be able to deliver a lecture on the signs of the overcoming of the power of judgment.
So unlike a lot of challenges mankind to produce a similar life.
And but is this challenge to be taken as a literal challenge to challenge the literature?
Or does it connotes a deeper challenge which the ordinary Muslims cannot see? And if someone has to respond to that challenge, on what criteria? Can we judge or who can judge whether that challenge response by non Muslim is at the level of karate? Thank you.
First Instance, this challenge was addressed to the other Arabs, the Qureshi of his time. What did they understand?
What did they understand? When it's so obvious this man is an army and learned and there are people like Abu Jamal are one of the most
of his time, Abu Sofia, and the like, and they were poets among the Arabs in the time of the Prophet. What did they understand? By the challenge?
Whatever they understood,
the challenge they could meet, it was the language and they were quite proficient, from the material point of view, educational point of view, more qualified than avana da creme de la sala. So what was it that standard them
the very song, the music, the rhythm of the Quran, just forget the sense for a time just the mere construction of sentences of the Quran. They are very themselves are overpowering, that the Christian world has not been able to produce when they add a world. Now when they bring it is let's hear The Handmaiden attempt. You see it to my Arab audiences I give them this is what they have done a 16 year project that Christians have carried out and they produced the New Testament.
I think I left it behind in the hotel.
I left it behind because I didn't imagine anybody
You could ask me, I had the book de produced by the Christians in New Testament, according to the fussy hanbali of the Quran, trying to and animate Arabs to read it. Second,
I want to read it to the audience. Arabs read all the Arabs they start every chapter now because of this New Testament is this Mila rockne some of
the some of the deposit come and read it this morning, whatever you do any objection?
You can't. This is the first one the Holy Quran. Now to challenge the Quran, they produce an ayah from the Quran has a beginning. And every chapter, they say galili of the sea, we say Maki, Nakia madonia. So they give the same style and the designs also Quranic when you start reading, and the Arab has a laugh of his life,
because he knows that the silliest type of the only bring the phrase in the Quran and fit it in some way, somewhere here somewhere there to the untreated people like us, the Hindu Muslim, and the Bangladeshi and the Indonesian and the African Muslim. To them, they don't know the difference between grass and saffron, like we don't really know. So now we might not be able to get the job because starts with Bismillah. And it is beautifully said no objection. And the words from the Quran here and there. As is now with the qualified people, the ordinary man is able to see the joke, at the biggest joke that the Christians have produced is this translation, which they say it is
something like the Quran by copying words and phrases. But obviously in the face of it, in the face of it, this challenge has not been met yet on the face of it. Once I produced that, then so let's start analyzing it, and inshallah you'll be able to do that yourself, you will need an alum to do it, you will be able to do it in shop.
Sometimes I find difficult when questions posted to me, which is from Toronto,
on a number of occasions are being asked, you don't know the precise words is from Quran but often either one or two words, if it says there are five things which human beings can tell, like when it's going to rain, when
a person will die, where the food will come from? And what's the bank baby in a mommy's room
wait for the contrasting remarks or contrasting results from research and so things
there are answers, sometimes contradictory, which appears contrast in
response to those
idea. There is one the advantage we have with this translation I have found again and again, somebody poses a problem for you that the Quranic is such and such, he gives you a translation, and which according to our understanding, we can't seem to get it reconciled according to our limited understanding.
You have a problem for yourself. Now, what do you do you go to use of translation. And invariably you find the man is explaining to you as if he knew beforehand, that this will be the sickness of the man in the 1990s. And in the 20th century, as if he knew beforehand. This is I have discovered so far what our problem, something like what you're talking now open the loop, open reverse lexical you give me a reference, I would have done this exercise Now, while you are seated. So let's see now what it says, Look at a commentary.
his commentary is most comprehensive commentary, and most modern, according to our thinking, and he seems to answer. The rest is you go to the scholars, I'm not a scholar, I am an expert in the field of comparative religion.
in that field, I think you know, the master about the rest of the Quran, I see the beauties I share with you and I haven't got the answers to all of anybody's questions I have a
note for us is a man who has really studied the Quran.
Somebody who's more learned, and not a really learned when I said I'm an expert in this art of comparative religion. I think I'm an expert, you see, but all knowledge about Islam and the Quran, I can tell you I haven't got it. So find a person who's more qualified and go to the commentary and inshallah we'll get the answer
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as they will
But instead of describing
the nature of
the question that the sister has been asked by certain non Muslims, is that it appears that there is no continuity in the Quranic chapters that a chapter finishes and stops. And a new topic starts with the next chapter is that is that the question system?
Now we must confess
that the Quran is not a storybook.
This is a unique book,
The preservation the substance, the message, everything is unique about this book.
You see every other religious scripture, every other word there is the power of the Gita, or the Ramayana of the Hindus are the Holy Bible of the Christians. You open the book, and it's telling you a story. And if I tell you a story, you'll never forget in your lifetime.
I just read it to you.
verses from the Bible. Once I read it, in 100 years, you can't forget that uncle D that is up to 100. He says there was an old man came from South Africa, and he read some verses of the Bible. And then those verses are you might not be able to reproduce the words, but the whole picture you'll be able to reproduce. You know why? Because is the story on the basis of once upon a time and we all remember stories aloud in in the wonderful lamb.
Sinbad the Sailor, you remember Alibaba in the 40s you can't forget them. Once the story is told. And you visualize the pictures, the scenes, they remain with you for a lifetime.
The Quran is not like that. The Quran had come in answer to a problem to a solution to a problem.
This that and it is there. It doesn't start like the birth of the Quran. In the whole Quran, you do not find the name of our baby's father.
You will not find his mother's name, you will not find the name of his wife, you will not find the name of his dear brother Fatima amorite you will not find a Buddha here you will not find a smile You won't find me. Isn't this amazing? for 23 years the people around him and the names are not mentioned at all. So now because the person is used to fairy tales
once upon a time, the Fox and the grapes the wolf and the lamb he is expect you to find the same type of thing here it is not. Allah tala speaks and when he speaks, he speaks by telegrams.
Is that like this like that? Like he doesn't talk?
So here's another one will only allow some of God's eternal absolute knowledge will
not be caught. William yaku fan, and there's nothing like unto him finish first off,
grappled with it.
As What did I say?
What did I say? He said, Well, you said this
one chorus here.
Don't know Santa says what else finish? Why this is not a storybook.
You read the Bible or any other book as an example.
While he Genesis chapter 38, while he, Judah, Judah, the father of the Jewish base, was going to clean net to share his sheep. You don't have to remember the names. He sees a woman sitting by the roadside.
Let me Is there any Christian who would like to read it?
Some Christian so that they read it? Because they think I might be shooting as analog? Let me read it for you.
Am I doing some sucking from servers? Let me show you. And I like to. I don't know why. Let me read it for you. I'll try.
Genesis chapter 38. I'm starting from
Genesis chapter 30.
he taught her to be an harlot.
You know what it means a prostitute.
She thought that she was a harlot because she had covered her face. And he turned to her by the way by the roadside and said, Go to I pray thee, let me come in unto thee. I'm reading the Holy Bible.
Don't take objection. I am reading the Holy Bible to you.
Allow me to come in unto you
And she said, What will that give me? The drama is coming into me. And he said, I will send the kid from the flop a good kid,
for giving me the favor.
I'll send you a kid from the frog. And she said, we'll give me a pleasure guarantee.
Suppose you have a good time, Jolly good time, and you go away, and you don't send it. I want to guarantee pledge that 2008 and he said, the father in law telling his daughter in law, what shall I give them? What guarantee do you want?
And she said,
by signet, your re, and your bracelet, old people, those deserve a bangles, and your bracelet and your staff that then the turret of Moses,
which is in the in hand, and he gave it to her,
and came in and to her, and she conceived by him.
And she arose and went away, and laid her by her veins from her and put on the garment of a widow, and so on. And then twins are born and they're struggling in the mother's womb, the same chapter today, as the Christian was asking you, this is a read it, we will continue it is.
You see this story what I told you all the time, because that is this type of story that we are apt to remember, you can visualize the old man going to the tertiary ship, he sees a woman sitting by the roadside, he thinks she's a prostitute. He comes up to her. He makes a suggestion is enough. She said What will you give me saying what the procedures are the day and night in London? Same type of race you can never forget. The Quran doesn't look like that. Yeah, hello kita
Taku Allah, Allah Allah.
Don't say this. Don't say anything but the truth in
most cases, how the Quran speaks, which is a very concentrated stuff. Therefore, the non Muslim is finding difficult and I sympathize with them. Because they're used to that what we call once upon a time, the fox in the Grade division, the Lamb death is what they're used to this look, this is not like that got touched by telegrams by faxes. And every Tom Dick and Harry doesn't really grasp a telegram or a telex or a fax. That's the fact of the matter. Take.
Before I hand back to the Chairman,
I would like to Firstly, thank once again, Mr. So Penza and Mr. nazeem pitesti. For the tremendous organization and hospitality. I don't want to do a vote of thanks. But I thought I will. I must mention that on behalf of Mr. Martinez.
And finally, if all of you can't meet Mr. De that, after the lecture, please accept my apologies in advance. He has now left home some three weeks ago, working virtually seven days a week, lectures every night, and he won't be able to stay right so late to meet every one of you. So if some of you
are inconvenience, unable to meet him, please accept my apologies. But do bear in mind. His spirits are with you. And all the brothers that were unable to make it for the meeting tonight. And I'd like to hand back to our chairman Dr. Zaki, to bring the meeting close. Slowly.
It's every chairman's duty to bring a meeting to a close sometime. And that falls to my side lot tonight. Estimate we have 2000 people here tonight. Over 2000 does MD and this whole know how allama Yusuf Ali died? If so, don't be bashful, put your hand up, and I would like to hear what you have to say.
Does anyone know when he died or how he died?
Is the no one.
No one out of 2000 who knows?
Well, then I will tell you
on Christmas Eve 1951. Four years after the foundation of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan. A British policeman was walking through Trafalgar Square at night
when he noticed a man lying on a slumped condition on a park bench.
He thrown to an ambulance ambulance came along and the man was pronounced dead on arrival at hospital allama Yusuf Ali, his wife, who was a Christian had abandoned him. His daughter who was under his wife's influence, but also abandoned him.
If you read the preface to his translation of the Koran, you will see there is a veiled reference to his personal circumstances. So, the British government that is to say the home office, contacted the Pakistan embassy and informed them that since this man had no family, if they did not take responsibility, he was going to be given a porpoise burial. They Pakistan embassy refused to have anything to do with it. We say we don't know who he is. This man is not important to us. And allama Yusuf Ali was given a Papa's burial under police escort. A week later, the obituary started appearing in the times and elsewhere. The glowing tributes to the former civil servant and
translator of the Koran wave upon the Pakistani embassy realized what a blunder they had made, and held a memorial meeting with the ambassador present at which fob toughened up and offered their condolences. So brothers, when we have governments like last in the Muslim world, is it any surprise that we are in the mess that we are in today, it only
four kids the means for me to close tonight's lecture with a proposing a vote of thanks to Brother ashba data for coming to South Africa and including us here in on his tour of Britain, and for giving such a brilliant and illuminating talk, and also to the Islamic Propagation center headquarters here in London for organizing this lecture. Thank you.