Were Muhammed & David Prophets?

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AI: Summary © The speakers discuss the concept of profit and prophecy in the Bible, emphasizing the importance of understanding the meaning of profit and prophecy. They also discuss the use of words like"arthing," and the importance of reading the Bible. The speakers stress the importance of reading and understanding the Bible, as well as the potential failures of people who believe in Islam.
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We're talking about the concept of profit and will apply to Mohammed Reza, Mohammed is a prophet of God or not. So this gentleman asked the question is Mohammed a prophet of God? I asked him to define profit, right? And he's not defining profit. He said, The first point is that a prophet has to be bringing miracles miracles, prophesied he has to bring prophecies he has to prophesied the future. Right?

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Okay, so miracles, okay, is having a miracle is something that goes beyond the natural

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nature, beyond natural capacity of nature to bring about

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It goes beyond the natural cause nature to bring about

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the capacity of nature to be at anytime, for the supernatural. Okay, so a miracle to something and exalt would be nice if someone's dead in the grave, right? Maybe I'll have a miracle. When Jesus went around to the blind, he healed him, right. But that's right. Oh, he did these miracles. I understand that right.

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That's a miracle. Okay. Can you show me any prophecy a miracle that Mohammed did?

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So you don't want to talk about

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the run? No, no, no.

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I'm running. I'm standing in

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running. I'm just seeing physical I'm seeing your intellectual, intellectual.

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You talk.

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I'm, I'm I am.

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I'm trying to show you that your concept of positive is messed up all over the place. Okay. You said David is not a prophet.

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Exactly. So. So I just said, your concept is wrong, is messed up using proven when I bring a point to counter or to give evidence, you said, are we are going to talk about Mohammed? Are we going to talk about prophet Yes or no? Mohammed? Whether he's a prophet or not, we need to establish what a prophet prophet is to understand.

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So in this conversation, the

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prophet this conversation in this conversation so far, right, I've asked you a question, and I will answer your question. Till 11 o'clock at night.

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So coming back to the question, I'm trying to understand your concept how you use two criteria to properly see.

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Let me finish prophecy. I'm sorry, guys.

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Yeah, so you give two criterias. One is what prophecy and the other one is miracles. Okay. I can find both of these qualities and David, according to the Bible prophecy, as well as miracle, right? Why is David not a prophet? Okay. So this is how you shifted the

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pumpkin. Okay.

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Okay, so you cannot answer the question, David. I asked you the question, but

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I'm digressing. I'm digressing.

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And then he at

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least admit that I know that David is not a prophet.

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No. One right now. Okay. Right. All right. The second, the second.

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The prophecies as well as the miracles. So let's stick to the topic.

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My name is Mr.

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Chris Morris, God will win in Sharla. Yeah.

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Jesus name.

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Jesus. You

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Jesus said in God's name, he didn't say

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I can't do anything.

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Right. Okay. So

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the question is this yet? haven't asked the question. Now, I know you're working hard to digress. You're working hard.

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I am working hard.

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You asked the question, right. What makes this is your question, what makes Muhammad a prophet? And then question mark at the end? Right. That's the question. And in order to answer the question, I have to understand well, perfect.

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What you mean by a profit and I give you a prophecy? I gave you What?

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You gave me the standard.

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I don't blame you.

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Okay, can you hear me?

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How many hours is too many hours? I can't even remember how many hours? I haven't had food. So look,

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I've seen a lot more respect. I am respectful. I'm trying to respect.

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I asked you a question. You just said, define your premises. Yeah. Right before I

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give you medical and prophecies, right? I

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got five years old Vin. Vin, you said, What did you mean by prophecies? What do you mean by miracles? Right? I'm not defined what I meant. So now I want you to respond to the question. I don't go to david. Don't go to Samuel. Don't go to

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Mr. Mohammed. Mohammed,

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many times, okay.

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is not my turn. I'm saying in order to apply a standard to Mohammed, or to ask a question about him, we must understand the question, so that we can properly answer the question. Do you agree? Do you agree? Is that fair?

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So I'm basically I'm trying to understand your standard, because your standard, you yourself cannot uphold your standard, consistently, even in the Bible. So how before you asked before you pointed the finger at me, or him or her? Yeah, you need to understand your own standard before you apply it on others. You understand? If I if I say you are not a good man, for example, for example, if I don't explain what I mean by good, how can I even say that to you?

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Understand what good means. And who does it apply to, I should be able to point out people according to my standard in my literature, that this person is good because of that, that person is good because of that. He is not good because of that. So now for that reason, you gave me a standard.

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Boy, I'm finishing both of these qualities. David, and you said David is not a prophet. I'm asking why he has both of these qualities. He has prophecy. He has miracles. Why is he not a prophet? And if he's not a prophet, how can be a prophet?

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If you're not accepting David as a prophet, if you're not accepting David as a prophet, okay, how on earth?

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I'm gonna respond. Yes, David. So, move on.

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You, you yourself, don't understand your standard.

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Clearly, you couldn't respond.

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So now I'm gonna ask you because you're so you just want to go into data.

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As you mentioned, you want to

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show me the Bible with

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me when the Bible is the Bible?

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Yeah, of course. I'm going into it right now.

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Is anyone Christian here? No.

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The question is, where did the Bible say David is

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gone? Yes, yes. Yes. So when I asked you a question earlier, what not a profit where I'm responding. You don't have to like my response.

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Aren't you earlier? David?

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David was actually 29 to 30. Israelites I may say to confidently about ancestor David, but he both died was buried in his tomb is with us to this day since he David was a prophet Oh.

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Before you before you find

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time if you haven't read it,

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read it by

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mistake, you can make a mistake.

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It's clear that he made a mistake.

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He made a mistake.

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Okay, so

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now it's clear that you clearly you clearly and we are we are witnesses. You clearly did not understand what Prophethood is biblically. You

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know, you asked me Show me what the Bible says.

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You did say that.

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David is a product.

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Okay, okay. So, what I'm saying to you is when you look at the Bible Bibles, and

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you said,

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Well, I'm seeing him in the Bible. There are different types of puppets. Right? Okay. So for example, now you're gonna explain Let me explain. Let me explain. Right. Be careful. Yeah. So for example, in the Bible, you have people like Sue,

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Sue, prophesied, okay. But Sue was who is known as a king, right? You have even the Bible speaks about

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in the New Testament, when it says that there'll be people in the church that will prophesied, okay, but we will not call it Unum see that there will be a lineage of prophecies as I see them. First Corinthians 13. It speaks about the nature of prophets, little prophets when we're talking about David.

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We're speaking about Moses, all the way to Jesus. So are you saying? What's your point before? The hypothesis, or evidence for the hypothesis? Tell us what the hypothesis is? Are you saying David McAllister of a prophet? Is that what you say? No, what I'm seeing here is that there's different types limits. So there's different type of purpose what category did David belong to what so David would have been like, Sean, Sean, who prophesied and why do you? Why do you read? Why would I say that? Because why? Because prophecy? Yeah. Is his prophecies basically speaking a word of God. Right. That's a prophecy. Right. So David?

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Yeah. So did David speak the Word of God?

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makes him a prophecy. Oh.

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Yeah. These different types.

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Okay, yeah. But not necessarily beaming and not necessarily coming out of poverty. We believe that by masking, clearly, can you tell us clearly what is the difference between Moses Prophethood and Jesus? Prophethood and David Prophethood. And how do you categorize based upon what standard? Where does the standard come from?

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Okay, before you do it, be careful. Okay. So g. Okay, so you see, David prophesied? Yeah, David was a prophet. The question initially and which we asked you, okay, is why should we then bring Muhammad into that category?

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shown? You haven't shown it. It has shown here conclusively that you clearly do not understand the biblical concept of profit, okay.

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You made a huge

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deal. You made an error.

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Before you ask Mohammed, whether he's a prophet or not, before you asked me because I know what a prophet is, according to, according to the Bible, according to the Quran. I know

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What a profit is I understand.

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Okay, so so right. So if you admit before we proceed if you admit that you don't know what I told you a profit is

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only if you admit we'll move on, we'll go straight to Muhammad right now. So if you admit I do not understand the concept of prophethood in the Bible, and then we'll move on

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to you that are perfect would come to things that are perfect would come with miracles, or prophets in the Bible prophesied of things.

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I've given you those definitions. Whether you received that or not, okay, that's your problem. Okay. Why must you use this is does Mohammed come into the habit of miracles? prophecies? Okay, now show us we covered the miracles of prophecy. Okay. So, okay, good. Good. Now, I'll let you go. No problem. No, no, when you go to Mohammed, thank you. Let people

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we have had a discussion. I made my point. We'll move on. Okay. Well, let's, let's proceed. Let's make some progress. You you asked about Mohammed was whether he was and you give two standards, two criterias. Generally speaking, you said prophecy, as well as miracles. Okay. Now I want to understand, what do you mean by prophecy and miracles before we apply them to Mohammed? Okay, so how do you differentiate between prophecy and prediction? For example, there are two chairs, let me finish my point. There are suit chairs who say things and they come to pass, they come to pass, and sometimes they're absolutely accurate. Right? You know, can you can you? Okay, because I was gonna

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say, Can you give me an example of one, but can you give example, one in the Bible? That's right. No prophecy I have no problem with

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that is mirrored the shoe says you're able to predict something. Exactly. To pass, maybe hundreds of years. Yeah. So give an example. Okay, before I give you an example, do you do you? Do you accept that prophecies have to be explained?

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Yes, or no, we jump into different No, no, no. I'm trying to make this discussion fruitful. And you're trying you're not helping me? Do you accept? Do you admit that prophecies have to be explained? They have to be explained.

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But they're not sufficient.

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for human example, a prophet says one thing, and then you have to link it with an event in the future. And then you have to explain why that prophecy leads to that event in the future. Why that event? Or that incident is actually a fulfillment of that prophecy.

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Okay, Isaiah said, Isaiah said, The Book of Isaiah says,

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Bible, maybe. Okay. No, you said No, I

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understand what I'm saying. Yeah. You said, Susa, you said, we need to define the difference between a prediction and a prophecy. Yes. Okay.

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Is You said that Sue says, able to tell what's going to happen 405 and you have to explain. Give us an example of a suit I am in the Bible. Are you not listening to

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an example before I give you an example you have to understand what we're talking about, right?

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Do you have to explain a point when you say Jesus, his crucifixion was foretold in the book of Isaiah chapter 53. suffering servant, suffering servant in the book of Isaiah. prophecy about Yeah, I'm talking about the crucifixion is foretold in the book of Isaiah 53. Right. Okay. Yes. And it doesn't say Jesus, a man called Jesus will be put on the cross in the year it doesn't say that. So you have to explain. You have to expand on the prophecy. You have to interpret the prophecy the words of God to explain to make sense of the

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We haven't even got

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plenty of time. Let's talk about

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to learn one lesson. today. That lesson is when you ask someone the question, understand the question yourself before you ask it. Right? You need to know your turns for you. So when you ask someone who are you, you are a good man? Are you a good man? So understand what you mean by good the question or not, the person can ask you what do you mean by good and then you can give you a definition of good, okay? And then that person can dissect your definition as well. So this is what we're doing right now. We need to get the definitions right before we move on to Mohammed. And once we get the definition right.

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53 Show me Show me 53 that a man called you

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crucified by the Romans.

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How do you leave that prophecy to the fiction? How do you do that? Read it.

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It's called hermeneutics.

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I'm sure you don't know how many ticks is.

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You know what it is? Yes, I do. So that's when we apply. Right? Right. So here's what we're gonna do is if you're reading something I already know. I'm making wine.

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Yeah. So, okay. You said that there's no way. I'm not saying that. We I'm not saying.

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You're saying that because you're just saying,

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Jesus, you're saying that I do. Right. So what I'm seeing is this. Am I wrong arises Christians. Yeah. Okay. anybody, anybody who reads this? To me? There'll be color. Let me read the reason why I think it'd be claimed

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by Mohammed disbeliever.

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You're saying there's a prophecy in the Bible about Jesus. And I come to you as a disbeliever. I say, Okay, hold on a second. You're claiming there's something in the Bible. So I'll ask you to explain it to me. And then you will go to book of Isaiah, you're not going to show me a man called Jesus was put on the cross by the Romans, in the first in Judea, you're not gonna show me that you

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don't fight the battle, you cannot win. Right. So so so so. So the point is, we both agree we have

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we not agreed. Let me read. We

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didn't say okay, we

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don't understand. a logical discussion is what I'm trying to say it uses an example. So let me read. Let me read show me where Jesus was crucified. See, Jesus, Is this clear? Okay.

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Okay, before you read that,

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read it, read it, read it, read it, read it, I listened to it, no problem.

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Who has believed our message as to who has the armed lobby revealed? We grew up before him like attend to shoot and a lack of out of pocket drama. He has no stately form of majesty, or he should look upon him, no appearance that you should be attracted to him. He was despised, forsaken men.

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Have men a man of sorrows, and, and, and acquainted with grief, a loved one from whom men had to face He was despised, and he did not esteem him. Surely our grief, he himself was

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going deeper and deeper into our well being. on him, he was just, he was good. He was whipped. Okay, and what the point is something but only Jesus Christ was prophesied. Ah, very good. Very good.

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You just you just what you just did, you did extra GCC.

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you indulge in

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your indulgent hermeneutics, you read a text, and then you said, Tell me who else was pierced like that. But you you're trying to make it clear? It's not? It's not No, no, no, no, no, hold on a second. This is not

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what I'll tell you want to preface with Yes.

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Have you read the Jewish commentaries on this passage? Have you? Yeah, so you don't know.

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Right? You don't know. Right? The Jewish rabbi, either. I recommend a book for you. Christopher, north, Christopher north, he has written a commentary on beautiful Isaiah, this part of Isaiah in particular. And the book is called the suffering servant. And due to Isaiah, it's very specific, it deals with this very issue, go and read the book, and then your mind will be blown away the amount of interpretation, the amount of different meanings of this particular passage are to be found in Christian as well as Jewish literature. So you are one track minded, you know, you can't see anything else you can only see Jesus. And even for that you have to explain. You have to explain

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that this is Jesus. Now, so I was trying to deceive this 15 minutes ago.

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Okay, I was okay. But you just wasted time. You wasted 10 minutes. Let's go. Let's go back to what we're seeing. We're seeing we're seeing what's the difference between prediction and prophecy? And I'm saying prophecy is so specific. It's not specific now.

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Because it does.

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You're saying it talks about Jesus. I'm saying the only Jesus peers for our sins, okay. So you're not explaining how similar you are. Are you? Are you are you

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are you inferring? Are you inferring? Is this basic plain English was Jesus Christians?

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Exactly is basically are you? Are you inferring? If the text said Jesus, amen.

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called Jesus, the son of Mary, the baby pierced

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by the Romans, in the first century in the inner city called Jerusalem. Pontius Pilate will be the man responsible.

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on him. If I read that no debate, no questions, I wouldn't be discussing the fact that all of this is not there. You are saying it is Jesus saying you are inferring? You are entering this. This refers to Jesus, you're making that claim was deep.

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You're saying that because it didn't have specifics? Yes. Yes. Yes. What I'm seeing here, yes. What makes you so specific is if it claims exclusivity or when you're when this thing can you For example, okay, so we hold on

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to attributes. Very good point.

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Listen, listen, listen to things we can only attribute attribute, particular person that perhaps to yourself or to God. So attributes that he has, that he's

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Jesus, that he's saying that this man was pierced for the sins of mankind, according to Christians, who was pierced for the sins of men.

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Who was that? Okay?

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Don't come back onto that.

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According to Paul, it was Jesus. Yes. It was.

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According to Paul, Paul was a liar.

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So we've agreed that in the Bible, it says that was Jesus Christ. Yes. Paul. Paul.

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testament Paul says that Jesus

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has been the Bible because

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the Bible so we agree, so we agree. Agree. Yes. So we have

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only one for right now. Very good. Let's go back to the top one. Okay. What makes Mohammed a prophet you haven't answered that. You have explained what have you explained? Have you explained?

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Let me finish. I listen to you.

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And you listen to me now. You said you said

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no problem. Don't worry.

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We all

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Yes. Yes. Using your criteria that that particular prophecy is he's claiming a specific I'm saying it's not and I am sure he does not understand.

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If you want to walk away you can walk away

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if you're

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sticking to the No, this is the topic

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is the topic

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to go back

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to talk about Mohammed

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Mohammed I love Mohammed

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the scripture

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to the question specific question is

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asking what is a profit?

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So what is the profit?

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Initially after the question, this is this is some

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okay, you said,

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but, but I've asked you the question. I've said what makes Muhammad a prophet and I asked, What do you

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use? I know he said, you said to me, okay, what

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you said to me, okay, what makes it perfect? Okay. clarify the standard.

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Okay, fair enough. All right. Foster.

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Is it okay now you have to be more specific. Sure.

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be more specific. You should be more specific who said what the miracles define miracle prophecies? No. You think just want me to define it. I've been defined good to me and I even used x two and also 2018 to say, this is what Quinta was prophecy use, and I explained.

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And then you said in the news, I know only explained it to you, but also gave you examples of miracles, for example, reason people are dead. Hidden blind is also false. Okay. And I've sent you. I've given scriptures, I've given you explanations or given hermeneutics. You

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looked into the David, okay. You said, David Foster category of prophecy prophets. I said, Okay, I agree with you. Okay.

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Good is wrong.

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Okay, so, okay, David foods got this category. Right. You said you said you can prove it'll prove overseas. Yes. Fantastic. David, why can you prove Mohammed? Why can you not prove your Mohammed? David? Moses proved it with Jesus. Muhammad, right.

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You have to be lucky. Yeah. Okay. Now, Godwin said that. That prophecy in Isaiah 53. Specific. And then he had to explain why it's specific, even to explain why specific you have to explain it. Right. So we do that we do the same standard. Now we apply the same standard God when applied on Jesus and that prophecy, in the book of Isaiah, same book, Chapter 29, verse 12, we have a verse, it states when the book is given to the one who is not learned. And it is said to him read, he will say I am not learned. And when the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him was in the cave of Hara, he received a man and an angel in in the shape of man. And he said, he came and he said, ekra, read.

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And Muhammad said Ma, because in I am not learned. This is what you call specific, okay? Now watch him reject this prophecy and say, no, this is not Mohammed. And amazingly, this incident never happened anywhere else in the entire history of humanity. No other man can be thought of when we discussed this prophecy, so even though Isaiah 53 is vague, he thinks it's specific. And even though this one I just quoted from Isaiah 2912 is specific, he will say, it doesn't apply to Mohammed, it is something else. Okay. So it is very clear that these people are completely inconsistent when it comes to their standard of Prophet when they apply one standard to Jesus. And when it comes to

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Muhammad, they completely divorced all those talents. They throw them in the sea, they don't want to talk about them. That's why I'm trying to dissect his definitions. I'm trying to understand what does he mean by prophecy? And what is the difference between prediction and prophecy? It's a very important question. Before we start talking about Prophethood, we need to understand what it constitutes and what it constitutes, according to God when it comes to things like what is prophecy, the other one is miracle. And we're trying to understand what is the miracle in a prophecy, and he simply cannot explain what these two things are. Because he's trying to he's still struggling. Okay,

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my time is up. Thank you for being

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a prophecy of Mohammed. Yeah, I want to know where that proceeds. I want to read it. Okay, so we can dissect

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same book. Okay. Let's read this out of your time. By the way.

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I stopped the time. Yeah. And if it is given to those who cannot read sane, read this. They say we cannot read. That's what we just said. Yeah. Yeah. You're big trouble. Oh, listen to the context. I'm not just a bit of context. Okay, I'm gonna listen to the context.

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Okay, so

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if you want to read the context, if

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you want the context noise

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Read what I want to read

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in a moment and if it is given to those who cannot read sane read this, they say we cannot read okay?

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We are live and

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visual bowls of visual for this has become for you that the words of a sealed document it is given to those who can read with the command mode read this is also having to Carry on, carry on.

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Do you want me to? Do you want me to?

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Do you see the problem Muslims? Who would take the Bible I

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don't know what that what the Bible says. And the context. If you've seen this Mohammed bin first before it moves on to I see the first one I'm gonna respond to see Yeah, this person can read. Yeah, can you can you? Can you? Can you respond to that?

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When we read this Bible, stick to James. No, no, no, no, no. That's that Bible. You read the Proclamation. And it talks about a number of

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you read it and you use this. Can you make this? Boy? Are you? Are you?

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No, I'm okay. This is the Bible.

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Do you stand by that translation?

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Exactly. Exactly.

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You want to listen to do you want to listen?

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No, no, no, no, we don't change the please.

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Show me what

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was changed.

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I'm changing the subject. Stick to stick to this canvas.

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I'm reading the same blanket of different translations.

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Because we open the book.

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He agreed. He agreed.

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problem I say

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remain silent until you finish Oh

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no, wait, wait, wait for two minutes then.

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What do you

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do I want to read this translation and show you how to do that. What do you disagree with this? Yeah.

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It's interesting what you're saying? Yeah, you'll see Muhammad is in the book. Yeah. When you disagree with the book. Do you want to talk about that?

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Bible. Do you know my Bible?

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in a different translation. There we are told is a group of people who are told to read the book. This one person here we are drawing this one person. Amazing. What does that mean? Are you one to 10

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or 10? Okay. This is Mohammed. You believe in the Trinity I was surprised

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to the Trinity when it gets stuck.

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Three One is

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Isaiah 29

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and the book is delivered to him that is not learned saying read this. I pray thee and he and he says I am not learned there you read and when the book is given to them and said to them, read this and they say it

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it's not getting any right.

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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, wait, wait, wait, wait, read. Write.

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Read this one. Read this one right. Read this one. Wait, wait, wait.

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I'm telling you,

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this Mohammed.

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Yes, let's do it properly.

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One you choose?

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Which one are we discussing? Which texts? I'm not playing that give you the

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interpretation of?

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Exactly. Absolutely.

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The meaning changes all together is one person that is Mahatma Gandhi, Muhammad. Do you understand my point? My friend, my friend, fine, fine. But do you understand the point I'm trying to make? If

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I understand that, I bought the plane, I bought the plane. My point is, one text is saying one purposes, it is many of them. Right? In that case, it cannot be out of the question. But one text is saying is one person, right? I'm asking which one is right.

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Which one is right?

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For the last time

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we went to

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the Greek one of

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the Greek texts as well.

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Return return Return, return,

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return, return, yes.

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profit, the profit,

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the profit,

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the profits

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and the vision have

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become to you.

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Which meant delivered to one

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read this.

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Read this.

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I cannot wait.

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And the book is delivered to him. That is not learned. Saying read this. I pray thee and he says I am not learned when did this happen in the history of humanity just when you

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forget about profit? When did this happen? When did this happen?

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This property is about profits.

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It is referring to profits is talking to the profits. Right? Okay. So, the Bible again,

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the Bible again,

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helping you let me tell you why.

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You're gonna tell me why you change the Bible, because

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the Bible

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is a few different things.

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And it's not different.

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wording or meaning, which is different than plurality, it makes a huge difference. It is a group of people like one person because it is a group.

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obviously there is something that says I

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can you

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wait to see

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the next verse is that 13

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so this is why we apply.

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We apply extra exegesis. What we do explain is what the

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Christian scholars

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Kaiser Otto Kaiser is a German Christians corner. I read his poetry. I

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took it to me.

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lucid for as much as this people

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is talking to different people.

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For me with enough

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lipstick didn't do on me, but rather moved their heart far from me. And their fear towards me, is taught by the preacher.

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Except men

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were the losers as much as the people drooling into their mouth. Have you read any commentaries on this?

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I said, what why are you? Why are you ignoring me?

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Have you read any commentaries on this? No, haven't you? Haven't I read the same question. The same question.

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The Bible says is I've read new Jerome's commentary on this. I've read entreprises commentary on this. I read Christopher Nolan's commentary on this.

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They're saying these two verses add me to different situations, you'll meet different people. And the first 10 clearly states that these are prophecies about profits, right? So if it's a profit, then which profit?

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need to be consistent? You need to be good. You understand what I said? I've read commentaries is the only position you have will

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be locked and completely blocked. listening to what I'm saying just says the person can read. Can you clarify? Yes, I'm clarifying. I said, I asked you have you read commentary? You said no, no, we came from the Bible and the

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Bible does not explain the Bible does not explain itself. Okay. No, this is the Bible, you're gonna forget. You're gonna find it.

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I'm gonna ask you a question from the Bible. You're gonna die here. I'm telling you, you're not going to escape. You're not going to

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understand the Bible itself.

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But stick with me.

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I'll tell you why.

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The beginning.

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You have not one time for our whole conversation. Yeah, giving us a prophecy of Muhammad. Right.

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Which clearly states that the best can read, okay. You didn't say that Muhammad is illiterate and he cannot leave. Okay. That's a contradiction. Okay. Do you have any other prophecies?

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You have anything

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to say, Okay.

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I listened to you quietly. Yes, I listened to you quietly. The reason why I use this particular passage is to apply Godwin's Modern Standard to the Bible and show him that there is a passage which is more specific than the one he used for Jesus in Isaiah 53. And there is no other man in the history of humanity, who had this experience giving you an angel came to Muhammad so he claimed you can reject the claim, he claimed and he said to me read and he said I am not learned and then the Quran was given and the Bible says when the book is given to the one who has not learned and it is said to him read he will say I have not done it.

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Now coming back to you said I did not I'll give you a prophecy one by one, number one, number one,

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number one number one.

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number one prophecy. First of all, did he do miracles? Yes, he did miracles number one medical he was traveling with over 1000 companions Prophet Mohammed and this let me finish Don't interrupt me you ask me questions. You can you can jump up and down and you can reject these miracles yet by no

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noise in

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the Bible, okay.

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So did you did you say to me,

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that I want to show me Muhammad as a prophet from the

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testimonies of Prophet shows.

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The Quran

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the Quran, Makana Mohammed abajo marriage alikum Wanaka Rasulullah

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Muhammad is the Messenger of God and he's the last prophet so that's it that's your one

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prophet and as well as the messenger, okay. No, Quran says that. The Quran says days of Prophet Yeah. Okay. So how does that prove So for example, if I come home, let me say

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let me say there is no no no, no, no, no, no, no, of course no happy with.

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There are people who

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hearts are sealed, your eyes are closed. Hearing is blocked, you cannot see what's going

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People don't want to know. They don't want to know. You just have to

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say, you asked me.

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No, I'm saying yes. When I didn't ask you that. Let me tell you why.

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I asked you. Okay.

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That's the question. Right.

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Let me finish my finish. Right. Okay. So how should we did you put beside then you went, you went to the Quran, I said, Thank you. Thank you very much. I want to go back to my Christian. Okay.

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Mohammed, can you prove Mohammed? I have a prophesied

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Mohammed did a miracle. Could you see the evidence?

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This is this is literally scripture for scripture. Okay.

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You think

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you're gonna correct me Come Come help me. No.

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No, no.

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Okay. Is that the word of God?

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Do you understand that? Okay. A nice descriptive description. Yes, yes.

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Yes, yes.

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So you see the camera Yes, that the Quran is the word of God. But also the Hadith is

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the continuation of the Quran which was to Allah right? Okay, you're saying the Hadees is a continuous one at explaining.

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You'll see because we

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receive the word and

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so you're seeing the Hadith the Quran is the literal Word of God, I'm telling you know, the literal Word of God, word by word. Yeah, these are this is a complete complimentary revelation, which God inspired to Muhammad and he explained the Quran but by living it by explaining it so whatever Mohammed said above the Quran is from Revelation in his own words

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you can reject it

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now why would you to give me what you consider for example, I speak

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Shiites and different denominations of Islam, and it's okay

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there's a fight Don't worry about it. Okay.

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they disagree on whether we should do the

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offensive you asking me

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a question. I'm not

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gonna jump around

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on the fly.

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You want to

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stay focused, stay focused.

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Stay focused. Okay. So let's talk about prophecies you want to know.

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Miracles now?

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We've been

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I said, Okay, no problem.

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You I was gonna give you prophecies.

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Oh, no, why not? Why not? Why not?

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why don't

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why not?

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you got

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Chapter 24

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verse 55

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Bismillah Ar Rahman

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ar mahnomen from

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the heart

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Probably him, right? It is a promise of Allah to those who believe among you that the succession in the land will be given to you. You will over deliver no home fell or literally means that you will be given power in the earth. So weapon on the planet Earth within a century of this revelation. Yeah, the Muslims are governing from northern China to southern France, the largest chunk of land ever governed by anything on the planet.

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Right now, no finish.

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You're smiling. No.

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Wait, wait, wait, wait.

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Wait, just because I'm not saying things that don't exist. I'm trying to establish my case, so that people can see where you are.

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You're wrong about David, you're wrong about

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5555. Boy keep jumping.

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2453 minutes?

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Three minutes.

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Because we're gonna go

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among three minutes. Yeah, who believe and work righteous deeds. Yeah. But he will assure to drop them in a lab inheritance, as he brought in our brackets.

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He grown teeth into balls before them, but he was establishing authority to religion and one.

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Religion, the one which he has chosen for them, and but he will change after this change after the defeat

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of security and peace.

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Worship Me. I'm not

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rebellious and wicked. You're seeing this? Okay. Wait, before you give your expert commentary on.

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Did you understand that? You understand? So what is this saying? He's saying that he's promising those who do good deeds? Yeah. Okay. The delegate authority. authority in the line?

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Is specific enough? Right? Okay. She's got a specific problem.

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I'm trying to understand, are you a solicitor?

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Is that specific enough?

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Allah, Allah has

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a lot of promise you, you do this, you will get this. Within a century. They did that. And they got that right. Okay.

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One minute, one minute left.

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Show you what you really want

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to see, I see what you want to see. And I cannot see what you want. I cannot show you what you want to see.

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isn't getting anywhere.

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Ladies and gentlemen.

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You asked me for prophecy.

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not ready.

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It's very clear. Godman came to us asked the question. What makes Muhammad the Prophet sallallahu. I asked him to clarify as to what a prophet means to him. He was confused about it. Clearly. He made a mistake, a major mistake in the Bible. I asked him is David a property.

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And then he asked us to show him show him where David is a property was shown. He was shown to be incorrect, made an error once I can summarize it. And then we went on to discuss what is a prophet? He said, a prophet is someone who receives who prophesized and who had miracles. Then I asked him to explain what is a prophecy, and what is a miracle. And then when Subhanallah as you all saw, we had a long discussion on that without any firm conclusion. And then he asked me to give me a prophecy. I gave him a prophecy he was going to give a prophecy. He said, No, he's not he's not happy. He said, Come on. Then I gave him a prophecy with the Quran and he still is still finding it.

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Thank you for your time.