Conversation with Ahmadi Imam – Part 2
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authentic Brother Let me let me explain. Let me explain No you can't. Our our attitude on the Bible is when the Quran refers to a particular phenomenon in the Bible, for example, in the current Bible, because the Quran says God doing the homework to been in the Home and the Home means with them. Okay? Wait, let me sit down, sit down. Okay? The Quran says with them, they have it with them with their means. Right? Right. Wait, let me finish. So we go and find prophecies about an Arabian Prophet we find them right. This is what we do. Now. Do we actually go to the Bible and learn how to pray? Learn how to fast learn how to be mortal? Absolutely not. The Bible is not the source of
morality for us. It is for you. Okay, you are being unjust how to fall
in jail, which is not
a prophet of Allah call someone up prostitutes child in jail was not
No, Bucha No, no, no. The other one did. Musa
is he praying? Can you call him please
Hmm. You have him in jail is not the four Gospels. Okay, the Injeel is something and saying you opening a different chapter now. Come back to that cautious to come back to the swear words. The for God's brother Abraham would a prophet of Allah call someone a prostitute child? If a prophet can say that you are dogs and swine? Yes. I don't believe the prophets. I don't believe that. That's up to you. You're now you're using Bible. He's using the Bible to defend Misaki La Mancha do not gonna give me something on the Quran. Using the Bible as an example. No offense. How do we know Jesus used those words? That you believe okay?
The word swine, the word swine, the word, the word, the word cure? What brother is the meaning of swine? Fine. Wait, wait, what word was what word was used by Jesus? swine? How do you know? The Bible? Bible is in English. The one you're reading is in English. What words were used by the JESUS Christ. What? What words? Did he say that you are translating as swine? And and hypocrites and vipers, tell me, you have no leg to stand on my brother, you don't know he took Jesus Jesus. Stop saying I don't know what I'm talking about. You don't? Because you don't know. You're claiming. Jesus said something. And I'm challenging you. Greek is not. Jesus did not speak in Greek. Jesus did
not speak Greek. He did not speak Greek. Whoa, what do you mean? Oh, Jesus did not speak Greek. So you're claiming you're claiming something about a prophet of Allah without knowing what he might have said? So they're going okay. When you take this argument in the context? Yeah. And we don't know what to put Jesus talks about the Holy Prophet. We do. And we do. I'll tell you why. I'll tell you what, asked me, What's the meaning of productive leaders? I'm not even using that. I don't even go to that. I'm talking about other things. Okay. So feels to me from the Bible that talks. Now now when you independent away from the holy path deployment that deploy, he talks about the Holy
Prophet. Beautiful. I have a debate with Samuel green in Australia. Wait, I'm asking you. I'm asking you to come and let me respond. Let me respond. I have a detailed debate on this with Samuel green in Australia is their online prophecies about Muhammad in the Bible. Now moving on to the issue of curses against opponents he stopped so he was killing banana, Ibrahim, Ibrahim Ibrahim, no, no, no, you're doing what you're doing. We shouldn't be doing. He claimed that Mirza Malama had Qadiani. He was using these words against those who are insulting the Prophet of Allah. I disproved that I showed him that's not the case. You know, why? Because he was using these words against Muslims, who
would not accept him as a prophet. So if if a Muslim if a Muslim comes to him and says to him, we have Hadith in Bukhari, which says, Learn about your body. We have a decent a Muslim and Bukhari that Rasul Allah said to Ali, Ali, you are lying to me. Harun was to Musa but there is a prophet after me. Then we have a hadith where the prophet said, Omar would have been there was a prophet after me, it would be no, wait,
wait, let me finish let me so So if if if we if we are using these evidences to reject him, or his profit per claim to profit, dude, he's calling us what can you do Gilad? He's calling us what? Children are prostitutes. And that's supposed to be a prophet, because we have so much literature that we cannot reject. Because other than just light again,
completely light power. Alright, I'm gonna read the quote again. I'm gonna read the quote again. No, I'm not talking about what he said.
Let me know
You said anyone who rejects My claim is a child of a prostitute, right? First of all, no, no. Do you know what do you know? Look Let me answer what Brother? Brother Do you think I'm making this up? Do you think I have the audacity to fit in front of a camera? It's gonna go out to 1000s of people you think I have the audacity to make this out to the camera you show to the camera what you're quoting from okay, I'm you I am quoting from
I'm gonna show it. I'm gonna why I'm gonna I'm gonna give the crew he's not quoting from the book. Okay, okay now quoting from something else from his auntie website. Okay, wait. All right now now. Now what I'm going to do is wait right now what I'm going to do is I'm in response to this. I'm actually going to pull out the scans of the original pages, published by the comedies, you're listening, or just picture take a picture? Yeah, yeah, these are quotes with references. Take the reference to where where he, where he calls people kundalika better their son of a prostitute. That's Haqiqa to Louie Safa. 1514 Rowhani Husain Gil 22 Safar. 446 445 go and check out these
references. If these references are not true, then I'm guilty. Okay, but don't don't just take it from there. I'm gonna I'm gonna
I am not denying what
other no one is saying. So what's the point of showing this on camera? What if you're not denying the original writings? No one. Okay. Let me finish what I'm saying. My God what He
I'm gonna get the coach sees. I was asking me in private. You asked me. I promise broken. You did this to yourself. No, no, no.
Come and take a picture of this. I am not worried. What's your take a picture of the Rowhani design here. Yeah, the original book. original book. Is this your is this running? No, no, no, no, no, no. I want you to take a picture of this. No, no, I know. No problem. Okay. That's I was writing quotes on this and all you're putting from now the point I was trying to make was okay, I'm reading from the original book. Please. No, no, you because you did this to yourself. Okay.
Okay, Joe Hammadi photog representing Islam, breaking his promise. Okay, that's all worse mighty photog guide li hoga Assaf some judge avec la que Isko what to do haram Bonica shortcut or analiza donahey Rowhani design. This is a bolo RB declarado I bought an RB man you will do me agile, agile Rowhani design. This is the actual scan from the original book Rowhani design or do publish by the army published the original Okay, so it's published by the Ahmadis right. Okay. Published by the AMA does the quote is there anyone who doesn't believe in Mirza Ghulam Muhammad Qadiani is what are the Haram He is a bastard child. Now okay, let me explain all this. So this is a profit this is a profit
take a picture of it running
auto limit limit what out anon is not explaining to you? He doesn't want to explain this to us. He
was being abused by Ronnie because it is a collection it's a big it's a big it's a it's a collection of many volumes. And this is from volume nine. Okay. And page number is their number page number 31 Page Number 31 Right at the end the court is there no other no
yeah no we're gonna pray now. Yeah, I'm gonna get through all the known as not explaining why hasn't multiple Ahmed said this? That's the point I want to get to you. I already explained why I have a problem with the Promised Messiah using harsh words on those who are abusing him. Not at all calling them bastard children. No issue from reading the mother. No issue but first of all the mothers issue for me because Jesus did this. No, no, no. The mother is dead. The mother is dead. She died before Mirza Ghulam Muhammad came right for his wedding at her. His wedding is calling her a Prophet you. Wait, wait. How does this make sense brother? That a person who doesn't believe in you? Who is alive
today? His mother died before you came on the scene? She is she's innocent, right? She's innocent. Why is this wedding at her? It wasn't about those who just believed in him.
There are those who abused it not the baby finisher. So even those who are abusing what what's the mother's for those who was adenosine? Oh no hang on those who abused him use filthy language against him. So why? Why cuz the mothers? Why call them prostitute? Let me finish. Right? Why the mothers as I'm saying again and again and again. In the Quran. Allah called the Jews what? Apes not their mothers. Their mothers. Don't you get my point? I do get your point. Yes. So why the mother I do
Okay, let's say let's say a person commits a crime. The judge the judge, he goes to court the judge, because where's your prostitute mother? When
he put it he said all available haram. Haram. He said
when the Haram when the Promised Messiah
was telling these people can do yoga but by beta continuing a beta Why are you free to let me answer
this prove your point. No you haven't.
I think I hope this is epic. hamady is watching and they can see this nice watch. You think we are afraid of this afternoon? You are yes no we're not no you are you are you are you are you making things up? For us you to take him make him take pictures of the courageous trend because
that's the career
you don't know if you don't know Arabic You don't know sources full stop. If you don't know the Arabic language you don't know the sources. Your your your your you can be misled by anyone like people.
No, no, no. lexicons are not the language lexicons are interpretations. Meanings people think.
No, you learn the language
let's finish this.
Listen to me.
No, no, but don't touch me because I didn't touch you. Yeah. So look, if you don't have to speak to property, okay, if you're making mistakes
once Oh, my God, this is the only we only argues calm down is easy.
You're not listening to him?
properly. If you don't speak Arabic properly. Okay, then you are not in a position to criticize anyone on these languages? Anyone? Yeah, on these languages, you're in a position to do that. Who says oh, you should do
to make claims to make claims and to make any claim on anything in a position of authority in the language, but they said they have someone in Arabic. Someone who speaks Arabic, they have a che here in London, they're gonna bring him next week. So let's talk to him.
there are different levels of language. I can read.
I may be like, Okay, I speak or they may be broken. But I should speak like, that means I can go to the so let's finish this.
We have to pray. Let me just teach this young man something. Yeah, please. Right. Please do.
Doesn't mean I don't know how to do
Yeah, yeah. Hang on, man. No, but we had we had a good we had a healthy discussions. There's no insult this thing. He's saying you're not in a position. You're wrong. Okay. You're wrong. Because nobody never like this.
I can go into the Arabic
I can go. That's fine. Let people decide. I can read the books of Hamas. Okay, right. So that's the difference. That's the reason I
know stopped. So we're gonna we're gonna go to Margaret. We're gonna go to
but he doesn't want to he doesn't want
he doesn't need a raise. You will not hear I offered him 500 pounds to read a Martin from a Muslim he wasn't reading.
He wasn't don't worry about it. This point is not listen to me. I am not having to prove myself to you. If I ask you a basic question. No, no, no, no, please don't worry about it. Musa you're just you're just being you're just being stupid. That's all you're being doing? No, no problem.
We're gonna have to grow their brain. We're gonna have to finish. No, we have to pray. Right? Are you fluent in Greek in Bible? No, he's not. He's not claiming to be one. I don't know. I don't think. So. The point I was trying to answer
which again, and thank you, and on the video, you saw other respect? Didn't let me answer. Please. Come on, man. I'm not saying that I was trying to I wanted on camera. I was trying to explain why hundreds of Allama did it. What do you expect if you whether you agree with it or not? It's up to you. We're saying this is not the language of a gentleman, let alone a prophet. That's all we're saying. This is the behavior of a gentleman. Is he a prophet? Is he claiming to be a prophet? Is he claiming to be a prophet? And he has called anyone a son of a prostitute? He didn't call anyone? Many, many, many,
many prophets of God repeatedly Thank you. Thank you. Shake hands, shake hands, shake hands will continue. No problem. We'll continue. Why
are you gonna? You're gonna put up a picture saying we converted