Adnan Rajeh – London Muslim Survey

Adnan Rajeh
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The speakers discuss the history and challenges faced by Muslims during the relationship between religion and manhood. They emphasize the importance of acknowledging and holding people to their standards, being open and giving time to achieve goals, and the need for a two-way road to achieve Islam. They also emphasize the importance of being open and giving time to achieve goals, and the need for financial support for those who cannot afford to pay rent or go out of debt. The speakers stress the importance of identifying a problem and finding affordable options for people to use, and emphasize the need for parents to empower their children to grow up in knowing their own personalities and cultural backgrounds.
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this verse contrary to what people think it means. It talks about a specific relationship that exists within the Ummah of Muhammad, Allah Salatu was Salam between those who preach and those who listen. And it was started before this verse that existence towards the Nyssa is started and suited to the Bacara when he says supine with Dinah, you are Latina, Manu, Loretta kulula In our column, Gordon our smile, well, you can't fit in anymore. Those who believe don't say Latina, don't ask for compromise within the law of Allah subhanaw taala the teachings, don't ask for things to change. don't require your prophet to make things easier to get rid of some of the rulings or some of the

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laws that he brings to you from Allah. And if we don't vote on that and say we need some time, West smile and we need you to listen to where it's difficult for us and this

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relationship was later explained in detail in the verse that I just recited for you from Surah Nisa. Now we don't have enough time for just to start a new series because Ramadan is very, very close nearby. I started the Ramadan prep series on February 23. Everything in the center from February 23, basically till March 10 will be based on PrEP, preparing for Ramadan and sha Allah, whether it's the weekend Halaqaat, the hot buzz, or the post Asia hot water. But until then we have a few weeks I'm going to address a few things that I think are important and I think it's worth maybe talking about.

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And the is noted in the side that explains what the relationship shouldn't be. It's actually quite comprehensive. And I want you to understand it and listen to it. So he talks to me and Latina How do you How did the funeral tell him I'm a welder. He talked about some people of the Book, the People of the Book, who manipulated their text, and the mistake they made was the following is what they said. They said, Send me I know what I'll say, you know, what's my video on was mine Marina, it said four things. He said to me, I know we've heard what you've had to say they're speaking to their Prophet to Musala Who said I'm well I'll tell you that but we don't accept all of it. What's my

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call, you're almost mine. But we want you speaking to Moose Ali salaam, again, to listen to us to hear us even though we are refusing to basically listen to you, but we need to listen to us what are you know, and some things have to change these commandments that you brought to difficult when you need to change them, let them be seen at the hem Matana and 15. Playing around with words and poking holes into the law that they were given by Allah subhana without as if to say that the law that they were given by Allah was not good enough when I went to Hong Kong, however, however, what they should have said was the following four things does that mean? I know I'll find out what's smart. Well, I'm

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gonna if they said those things that kind of heilala will be better for them, help them establish themselves. But they refuse and Allah subhanaw taala damned him and Kristen for it. So what are the four things they should have said they should have said send me an outline first. We heard we listened and we accept. That's what autonomies mean, this is not something that we can test. We don't disagree, we don't refuse, we don't refute we don't dispute we accept it. What's not on board now the second piece was smile on board but we need you to hear us out. And to give us time I'm gonna give us time this relationship that exists within Islam is very specific and extremely

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important. And the reason it's there is because Allah used to assemble the final messenger there are no messages to come after him it is Salatu was sent to this relationship between between the congregation and their and their spiritual or religious leaders has to be based on this, this method or or the scenario where your job is to say send me I know Aparna not to me to Allah subhana wa Tada that we have listened to what Allah Subhana Allah is saying, and we accept it unconditionally. We accept it, we have no, we have no conditions that we have no exceptions to the rule. And then what you will say to me is what's my one vote no, but when you do to hear us, where are we our struggles

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are where the challenges lie. What is difficult for us? Well, I'm gonna and for you to ask me to give you time, meaning, we're not allowed as people who are spiritually or religiously trying to educate and lead to judge others who aren't at the same level, where I've not catched catch up with everyone else who are failing to hold themselves to a certain standard that Allah has found that explained clearly in the book, it's not my job to hold you accountable for that or judge you for it. That's your job. My job is to hear you out. And to see where it is that is hard for you to do. So I'm going to give you time, I'm gonna give you a time. Because it will take time for people to

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understand things, comprehend them, make the life adjustments that are required for them to follow these rulings. This is the relationship that exists. This is how it existed for the Prophet alayhi. Salatu was Salam as well. It's not different. This is not specific to how I'm supposed to be with you. This is how the Prophet alayhi salam was was with all of us. He explained things. And some people listened to all that he explained and did and some people didn't, he didn't judge them for it. He just continued to see how it was he was going to help them figure out there a way to do it. That's why even those who would cross the line that would require a public punishment, he still

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didn't hold it against them out against the law to withstand he didn't demonize them that he didn't because he Muslim, the guy who who was lashed for public intoxication. One of the Sahaba stood there and said and said instead of bad word about him, and if I said a Hola Hola Hola. Hola some bad thing because how do you hold your tongue for Nila Allah, Allah? Allah, Allah, sunnah. All that I know of this person is that he loves the Allah and His Prophet. This drunk this public drunk, he's getting a testimony from the Prophet alayhi salatu salam that I can't even dream of. I wouldn't even dream of getting something like that, nor you could. The Prophet Allah installs and testifies that you will

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love Allah and His Prophet that is anti nuclear. That's anti hypocrisy right there given to a public drunk. Why? Because the Prophet alayhi salatu salam understood this relationship that we don't understand very well. I have to understand it and so do you need a two way road in order for Islam as a nation to prevail again, in order for us to fix things? It's a two way road. I am required to do certain things.

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I am required to listen to you to give you time, and you're required to accept Islam unconditionally. And when I talk about something that is correct that you follow it, not because I said it, I have no value in this story at all. I'm using myself as a symbol for those who speak to people on monogamy, there's no value to me as a person at all, or in general, the value here is the relationship between the nation the congregation, and those who are going to be bringing them to knowledge that Allah subhanaw taala put in the book, it's a very specific relationship.

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My job is to preach only that which is clear, which is correct, which is what Allah subhanaw taala wants you to hear your job is to listen to it accepted unconditionally, and then explain where it's difficult and why is difficult to follow in detail. My job is to listen to you, and then to find you ways to do it and give you time to achieve those goals. That is how this is done.

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We do not walk around judging people who don't follow us down perfectly, we look for ways to help them do it. Their job is to be open to that hope and to be open to give him that feedback and to come to Islam as they are. But to Islam as it is. This is what Islam is it won't change for me or for you. We're not looking for an Islam that will fit our personalities or fit our mentality. That's not what Islam is, we have to change so that we've said what Islam is. But that takes time. And that's okay.

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This is what we have to remind ourselves of within our community and within our own man general, that this relationship has to be revived again, because it's not like that. It's one of two things, either I turned into a show host of my liberal Jim hood, whatever the audience wants, and I figured out what you want, and I say what you want, so that you like me, and I hold on to my position here, and I'm able to hold on to it. But I can sit over there, no one kicks me out. Because I just say what you want, whether it's right, whether it's wrong with this culturally appropriate, inappropriate, there's religiously right or wrong, it doesn't make a difference, as long as the

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majority likes it, so they can't kick me out, I stay there. And that is the demise of religion. In general, if someone does that, or the opposite, or the opposite, I hold people to a standard that I have no right to hold them to. I hold them to a standard that is unrealistic and inept and inappropriate. Just because you're because I'm capable of practicing Islam in a certain way doesn't mean that everyone was given that same life story that allowed them to reach that point, the same thing goes for you. If Allah subhanaw taala was generous enough with you loving enough with you that he gave you a lifestyle, a life story, where you grew up in a certain place with a certain family

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structure and a certain psychological structure as well. An experience of that allowed you to be adherent to his law than you are very fortunate than you see yourself as such, you don't hold everyone else to your standard. That's unfair. What do you know about their lives? What do you know what they went through? Nothing, you barely know what you went through. You can't you can't even answer questions about yourself to answer questions about others. So we don't get to hold people to standards. So either we, if we're holding people to standard unrealistic, we lose. And if we decide that we're going to just say whatever to make people happy, then we lose. It's neither that nor

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this. We come to Islam semi I know Atlanta, whatever you say yada yada, we accept the pieces of it that we like, and the pieces of it that we don't like, we accept all of it unconditionally. And then we ask for time and for help, and for an ear to listen to us. So we can figure out how we're going to do it appropriately. That is the relationship that exists.

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And today, we have tools to be better at it than we ever were before. We're not using those tools, but we have them

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almost three years, six years, six years to date, three years, almost six years to date. In March of 2018, I gave a hook bind lmm. And I brought forward a survey. At the time it was paper, it was very poorly written. The instructions were not clear. And some brothers who are still here today actually took on themselves to is distributed and we gathered 1000 of them 1000 papers. And we spent all night and we put it all the data in

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and somebody was asking what people needed. Because I believe that there's no Pope for an OMAFRA nation for community, big or small. If that this relationship is not properly established, if I don't know what it is that people are struggling with, where they are in their lives, financially, socially, mentally,

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mentally, psychologically, spiritually. I don't know the demographics I'm speaking to that I'm that I'm shooting in the dark. And I'm on this member here. I may be seeing your faces, I don't know who I'm talking to. So I'm just I'm just improvising hoping that when I say a lot lands somehow, I don't know the audience. So we tried to do that and put together the data and we looked at it and it was it was a disaster because I didn't we didn't word the the thing properly. And it was, but we come to that we kept held on to it. And then we we talked about census and surveying a little bit more. And a local group of local brothers and sisters started something called the outcome and social

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innovation lab and they did a survey not too long ago. This is a couple of I don't know if it's a year maybe it's a year ago, maybe it's less but they put together a survey and I wanted to share with you some of the some of the data from that survey not everything but some points that I think are worthy of talking about and this is a primer on yourself is a preliminary effort. This is the first time this has been tried. We haven't

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really done this before. As far as I can tell, the all the other data that we have online that exists within North America are very small subset groups, you're talking maybe 600 people that are living over across a number of different states. So we don't have data that is concentrated in one community, which we should have, I should know, we should know exactly that we have, let's say we have a census from from the government and gives us maybe 30/33, roughly speaking, 3000 Muslims. Now if that's true, and I think it probably is, or something that's actually very, very sad, it's depressing, almost 30,000, Muslims, 30,000 people, that's a lot of people. That's a lot of people, I

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can tell you that we recycle the same 4000 people and all massage it around around the city is the same people I give a whole bunny wears the same faces, I know.

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They're bored of me, I'm bored of them, we need more, we need more people, because they're 3000, there's at least another 20,000 People that don't show up, maybe seven or 8000, show up for eight, maybe 10, that's still a third you and for eight, and there's still two thirds of Muslims that don't show up at all. There's a problem here, there's an issue with the outreach, there's an issue with with them involvement and engagement. And there's, and this has to be talked about. So I'm gonna share with you some data here.

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Okay, perfect. So you can see that most of the different postal codes in London, most of the data was taken from the Northwest where this message is, because this is where this project kind of was handed out, this group kind of started here, and they move forward with it. So we don't have as much data from other parts of the city, which is the struggle that we have right now. I just don't have enough information from the south and southeast, specifically, in the area. The white oaks, for example, don't don't have a lot of data, there's a lot of Muslims that we know that like to just drive, drive down to the White House. And you'll know that the majority of people that are Muslim

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and Arab, from backgrounds of different Islamic backgrounds, so we don't have a lot of data there. Most of the data is from the Northwest, where we come from, but it's still worthy is around 600 And something responses that we got, which I think is a reasonable data subset to kind of work with and talk about the majority of people. Oh, here we go. So the majority of people are getting it. All right. We're, we're parents, and the majority of them that answered these questions were married, the majority of them were married. Very good.

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So 72 respondents were married. And then we have a much smaller representation of people were single and much smaller of people who are divorced or separated. Now there's a Mr. Isn't Mr. Presentation, when I when I put out these numbers is not the reality of our community? No, no, not because we know our community, there's actually way more people who are single and are dependent or divorced widowed than what we had here, which says that we have an issue with engagement when it comes to when it comes to it within our Muslim community to engaging people who are maybe not family oriented, they don't have a family who haven't built their unit yet. That's a problem. Because what's the point of

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having a community if it's not going to lead, or help people build that back again, or support those who are failing to do so for whatever reason, sometimes there's just no interest in doing and that's fine. Sometimes people don't want to get married again, or they don't have interest in doing that. Either way, they should still have a spot for themselves, and they should still feel welcome or they should be represented. Regardless.

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someone's doing it for me. So because this is not working.

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Alright, there we go. One more. So just just a subset there for people who attend my session. So you can see there's a there's a big difference in those who are born in Canada, look at the blue, blue one specifically, I think this is the wrong clicker. It's probably the wrong one. There's another one in there. If someone get it from me, if you look at the at the blue up the blue lines, someone born in Canada versus someone who came here first three years, there's a significant difference. This tells you that when people are immigrating to the city, when they're coming in as Muslims from Muslim countries, they are not finding enough support. They're not finding a landing spot. They're

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not finding somewhere where they can come and they can be taught and they can be accepted and welcomed and helped along. And that's that is that is a problem. That is a problem. Now, if you look at the blue line, as it goes forward, as the years progress, the numbers of people, that percentage of people start coming into me tell you a little bit more because they're little bit more comfortable coming in. But when they first arrived, they don't in comparison to someone who was born and raised here, which gives you something to think about.

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Here's, here's the breakdown of those who responded financially. 20% of 50 of our community makes over 100k. So where's all that money?

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It's 20% of our communities make over 100k? Where's the money? Show me the money. We need money for this community. Not in this space. Specifically, I feel very comfortable saying these things. Because really, in this small center, we don't need a lot of money. But this community does. For sure. This community requires wealth. And if you if you're going to be able to educate your youth, if you're going to be able to take care of immigrants to take care of people who are vulnerable. If you're gonna be able to take care of people who are struggling or people are coming in as new immigrants or new converts to Islam, then you need wealth. If money is needed, without money, you

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can't get things done. You can't run a faith, a community based faith for free. It's impossible. He could if it was doable, he would have done it himself out of his thoughts. But he didn't. He asked people for money and he made sure that every

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input what they had, and if they didn't it, held them accountable for it. That's why the people had nothing would come with a tomorrow, you would come with one date, imagine how ridiculous that sounds and looks for you to come to a group where people are putting money for a purpose that is needed, and you're bringing one date. But because they understood that we have to give from what we've got, whether we have a lot, or whether we have a little, we still have to give something so he came in with what he had. And the Quran would document that and document how, whenever they would laugh at them.

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Hug him when he would would would make fun of them.

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That they had nothing to give, and how the Quran accepted and how Allah subhanaw accepted even the smallest, whatever you got, if you know it's okay, bring that date Jazak Allah and Baraka Luffy, that will go a very long way.

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But if a fifth of us make over 100k, and they bring a date, well,

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there's something wrong there, for sure.

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But then over a third make less than 50, which means they require support, which means some of those, some of those, aka that we give has to stay local. You see the only times that guy's allowed to be sent overseas is if the community you're living in is sufficed, like if they're saturated, if you don't need to cut locally, but if your needs occur locally, there are people who are living in your community who don't can't make ends meet for some some reason, then that pool of well that pool of money, that kind of money, a part of that is owed to them before it's before it's acceptable Islamically to send us like overseas you have this is this is not an issue of one.

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School of jurisprudence, opinion. It's not no, this is across the board, the schools of jurisprudence that allowed for Muslims to send their wealth overseas, there's a call overseas, they have that condition that you have to make sure that locally people are doing well. If they're not, then we have to make sure we take care of people locally first, you can't be as as important as it is for our wealth and our money to go to the consumer and to go to Sudan and to go to parts of the world where people are starving. But if people who are living right beside you are starving, that's a bigger problem. If they're not taking care of we have people who are Muslims who can't, can't pay

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the rent or are going after drugs or substance abuse, because they don't have money, then this is a problem that we have to deal with.

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Over a fifth of our community talk about having financial difficulties. That doesn't mean that we just throw money at them, what it means is that we have to have services that allow them to get out of whatever debt or financial problems they're in, we need to have these services. MRCs is one institution, no matter how hard they work, they cannot carry all of this. And if they are going to do it, then they need to be properly staffed. They have to have way more staff than they have today, if we're going to be able to reach out because these people, most of them don't come to massage. And if they do, they come very ashamed and embarrassed. And they're not the first people to jump up and

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say I am struggling financially, it takes a man a lot to come forward and say I need help. Or else they will continue to struggle for years before they actually put their hand up. We actually have to be proactive about it. We have to provide safe spaces and safe lines for people to actually call if they need that help and then find services that are available within the country that we live in. We are taxpayers, there is money available for us within this country to use to help our our Muslim, you understand a lot of the immigrants that come here don't know what their rights are. So they end up not accessing the services that are available to them just for lack of education to scratch up

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knowledge. They don't know no one told them no one has a time. No, there are no services set up. I'm not asking we can't do this as individuals. You're busy. You don't have time to go around doing this. But should there not be a service in our community that we fund to make sure that these people find an access to services that they need? Yes, of course. And it's very doable. It just requires a little bit more organization and a little bit more funding you have to money for these things is quite important.

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Takagi unfussy him, I don't want to take a lot of this time, I will, we will share and show more of this data as we go along and show over the next few weeks is a lot of actually points that are worthy of

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sharing with you.

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But what's the point? If we share, okay, here's the problem.

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Okay, and then what?

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I can't fix it. Nor can the team that runs this small place, fix it.

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Changes in the communities have to come from the communities themselves, you have to identify a problem, you have to come start, if it matters to you, if you want to you champion it, you're going to find those who are interested in the same problem and start building towards finding a solution, finding a way to to close the gap. If if there is one, there's still something I wanted to point out here and parenting

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over a third, find the problem with just getting an Islamic identity. I know it's a word that we throw around a lot. But should it be? Should this be a challenge? Should a third of us find it hard just to make sure that our kids grow up as understanding themselves to be Muslim and to from a background from whatever their background is, whether it's soluble, okay? And it doesn't matter if they're Muslim, they're Muslim, and they have their cultural background for us to struggle with making sure that our kids just know where they come from and who they are. That to me is a big red flag that is an alarm that is being sounded that we have to take. Because remember, this data that I

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have mostly our people in my session, like it's skewered it's not it's not a it's not a perfect representation of our community. Because most of the people who filled this out came to massage it whether here or somewhere else. So there are people who are already making it to Joomla three already making it to Joomla. And that's what their struggles are. Imagine those who don't make it to Joomla at all. You want to know go to schools go stand in front of a high school well, maybe you shouldn't do that because it get in trouble. But in general, if

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You want to watch at Williams High School, you will see the number of Muslims going in and coming out. It's not just that we're a very youthful community. But a lot of that a lot of that string, a lot of that energy is being lost, it's being lost, because we don't have a way to actually encompass it and bring it in, we don't have a need to engage them, and to remind them of who they are within what they're here for, and allow them to, to feel proud and to feel that they belong to their background and to the face that they're a part of. And that's just, there's no excuse for that. There is no excuse. We don't live in a time or a place where we are being told we can't speak or we

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can't, we can't express ourselves or we can build no we can do whatever you want the failures that we are seeing the failures that we have allowed to happen. There is no reason for us not be able to do better than that. There is no reason that they struggled with language struggle with

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substance abuse, there's no reason outside from our own lack of caring, or lack of empathy towards one another own. That feeling of responsibility, and accountability and ownership that we should all carry within our hearts. I'll share more of this inshallah with you over the next week or so. But I'll leave you with this slide to think about these things. There are people out there who are isolated and who are alone while have nowhere to go who don't feel supported don't feel that they have anyone to reach out to and they come to these massages by the way a lot

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is the last resort because we don't have things set up for them we don't have you don't We don't have systems embedded within the Messiah to make sure that we are ready to help those who are in need and reach out to those who don't know where else to go that is your that's our obligation as Muslims Our obligation is not it's not this is not something extra that we should we're doing because we're a great we're doing this because we have to because if we don't we're held accountable by Allah subhanaw taala not and with that in short, I hope there was a benefit to you why didn't want to know how am I gonna be

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