Abdullah al Andalusi – MUSLIM VS ZIONIST On UK elected Muslims who are pro-Gaza & Is saying ALLAHU AKBAR in public wrong
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The recent investigation of prowery councilors, including one named Motin Ali, has led to the closure of pro Anything councilors and the shameless act of Sharia pensions. The involvement of local political parties in the political process is a tragedy, and the involvement of religion is a red flush for political parties. The ongoing situation in proteins, including Israel's invasion ofalee, and the legalization of Islam is a red flush for political parties. hom centers and the legalization of Islam are a red flush for political parties, and the war and arrest warrants for those involved are necessary.AI: Transcript ©
Welcome along to Patrick Christie tonight on GB
News. Our look coming up. Are we staring
down the barrel of a socialist coalition from
*? But first, should the Green Party's new
pro Palestine councilors
be expelled?
It's time for our heads ahead.
And the Green Party has been forced to
launch an investigation after concerns were raised about
the behavior of some of their new pro
Palestine councilors voted in at the local elections
over the weekend. So this was counselor Motin
Ali's celebration after he won in Leeds.
Reports have since emerged
stating that Ali played a pivotal role in
the hounding of the Jewish chaplain at the
University of Leeds, Rabbi Zachariah Deutsch,
who went into hiding after receiving threats from
pro Palestine activists because he served with the
Israeli army. But it's not just Motin Ali,
apparently. Green Party councilor in Bristol, Mohammed Makawi,
claimed in social media posts that Hamas' massacre
of innocent Israelis was an American Zionist lie.
Another green councilor, Imtiaz Ali, branded Zionists as
nothing more than common thieves willing to massacre
1,000 in the process. That was in a
Facebook post last December. So, look, tonight, I
am asking, should these candidates be immediately expelled
from the Green Party? Going head to head
on this, the chairman of the National Jewish
Assembly, Gary Monde, and the cofounder of the
Muslim debate initiative,
Abdullah
Al Andalusi.
Gary, I'll start with you. What's your view?
Should they be expelled? My view is that
anybody in politics of whatever party who advocates
any form of violence has got no place
in public life and no place in a
major political party like the Green Party. When
you shout Allahu Akbar, I appreciate that means
God is great, but it is the shout
that's used by Hamas terrorists and others who
killed Jews in Israel, Allahu Akbar. If you
shout that, you have no place in politics.
Abdullah, your views on that. Firstly, I think
that's quite ridiculous because
Allahu Akbar is what Muslims say every time
they pray. It means god is great. It
is Semitic word. Allah is a Semitic word.
Jesus would have said a word similar to
that.
And it's simply just an exhortation.
It should not be associated
with,
people who commit terrorist acts. In fact,
just as we would be anti Semitic to
blame all Jews for the act of of
Israel,
it would be also anti Muslim
to demonize a Muslim exhortation of prayer simply
because there are some individuals in the world
that haven't used it improperly. Does it change
that slightly, Abdullah, when the whole point of
him standing is is is is, as he
says, you know, for Gaza and for Palestine?
Does it does it change that? Because, I
mean, I'm not hearing any kind of,
denunciation of Hamas there. So is is there
a context there when it comes to shouting
that or not? Well, it would appear that
his platform is
anti genocide, pro Palestinian rights, and he campaigned
on that platform,
to guarantee the rights of British people, presumably,
to be able to protest free from,
government harassment, demonization,
and the attempt to curb people's democratic rights
in the UK to do demonstrations of protests.
But as for the issue of,
him simply presenting his religious beliefs
alongside his his his his political campaigning, I
mean, no one would complain that Katie Forbes
who is vocally Christian, represents her Christian beliefs,
minister for for the Scottish Parliament,
that no one would would would say, at
least on a on a right wing spectrum,
would say that she should
be, limited to be condemned for mentioning her
I get what you mean. Christian beliefs. I
get what you mean, but, unfortunately, people did
condemn it, and the whole gay marriage stuff
is one of the reasons why initially she,
was unsuccessful. Gary, your your your views on
this. I mean, the the the Shalwar Alawak
part, right, that's one thing.
What do you reckon about the, know, kind
of as the pro Palestine stuff, the idea
that they're saying, you know, we're we're coming
for you, the Labour Party, and all of
those things? I think it's a real tragedy
that local politics has been interfered in by
religious fanaticism.
That is the tragedy for our country, and
that's the big picture.
And I really absolutely condemn it,
the involvement of this. There are far more
important local issues that affect constituencies
all over the country and people who've been
evoking the elections. And to suddenly have the
events of 2,000 miles away
brought into play as an election issue is
tragic in our country. And, Abdullah, it's not
really all about Palestine, is it? We saw
very quickly the Muslim vote dotco.uk
issuing a list of 18 demands to the
labor leader. One of those was to, you
know, be bang in favor of Sharia pensions,
for example. I mean, what's all that about?
No. Well, firstly firstly, religion
doesn't have anything to do about it. Anyone
who has any humanitarian bone in their body
would feel sorry for the plight of the
Palestinians. But what's the reaction of those? They've
been denied their independence for 77 years Okay.
Under the justification
that,
Jewish Europeans
have a better right to Palestine than native
Palestine is. My point is my point is
all the Arab all the Arab Jews who
came to Israel when it was formed it's
not Jewish European country. Well, who who formed
it? Who set
Jewish Europeans who argued that they have a
superior one. Stop us there. Because, actually, what
I am talking about is the potential for
a new religious movement within British politics, which
is directly relevant to this. And and certain
things like the Sharia pensions, for example,
that to me seems like,
you know, is is it is it one
step away? The natural progression from that, I
suppose, would arguably be things like blasphemy laws.
And is that what happens when you get
more
counselors standing and winning on a overtly Muslim
ticket?
Wait. Well, Sharia pension is this is a
red herring. There are, you know, Judaism compliant
pensions in the UK, which is no one
would say, oh, no. Jewish law has come
to the UK. You'd be condemned as an
anti semite for that, rightfully so. So, likewise,
if people want to voluntarily enter into contractual
agreements for pensions, which are just Sharika compliant,
how is that an issue if it's voluntary,
it's consensual, and no one's being enforced to
it? If other religions get that privilege too
well, it's not been a privilege. It's just
a simple basic civil right. So I think
bringing religion into this is a big red
herring to distract
from the issue that British people want to
have have their rights protected when they are
demonstrating and protesting against the genocide happening across
where Britain has been Okay. Involved with. Gary,
in your view, is it really all about
Palestine, do you think? No. I think if
you
is it really all about Palestine, do you
think?
No. I think if you look at the
18 requests, the 18 demands from the Muslim
vote,
there's very, very a great deal of worry,
which I think Jews and Christians and others
will feel alike in the requirement
for,
legislation
to make Islamophobia
an offense
because I think that it's perfectly okay to
criticize Judaism.
It's perfectly okay to criticize Christianity,
and it must also be perfectly okay to
criticize Islam in certain situations. K. So so
do you think that homophobia should be legalized
as well then?
I don't. I I don't believe homophobia should
be legalized. Why Islamophobia
is an is is an issue for you
that you you think where it should be
legalized, but not homophobic. It's not about the
criticism of Islam. It's the criticism of Muslims
for being the Muslim
that is the issue. The the term, that's
what simply it means. So so if we
have
definitions of anti Semitism that include
the of Israel, which is ridiculous,
right, then surely,
we should be for the criticizing Muslims for
simply being Muslim
and for demonizing Muslims and scaremongering Muslims for
simply just wanting the same civil rights as
every other people. Parallel to anti Semitism is
anti Muslim hatred, and I totally condemn all
forms of anti Muslim hatred. Okay. Look, guys.
Can can we just spark your quiz? We
are gonna just chat quickly,
albeit, but, about the, ongoing situation in Rafa.
So Israel's
invasion of Rafa has begun. We have a
live shot
of it right now. So as we understand
this, anyway, it's a ground invasion. We think
it started a couple of hours ago.
Ceasefire talks broke down.
I think this is quite possibly going to
have big consequences
here in Britain. Again, we've spoken a lot
about, the councilors there. We've spoken a lot
about some of the protests taking place. Abdullah,
how do you feel when you see what's
going on over here?
Well, these these five talks haven't broken down.
Apparently, Hamas has agreed
to the proposal that was that was given
to them. And the question is now the
balls in the court of, of, Benjamin Netanyahu
and his government who, with right wing pressure,
are told to continue military operations despite any
ceasefire agreement. He's facing that pressure, and most
likely, he won't care. As he stayed before,
it won't matter at all to his military
campaign to whatever ceasefire agreement is agreed. Gary,
is what's gonna happen now justified?
Yes. Absolutely. A fundamental requirement
of Israel is the elimination of Hamas. To
ever have peace in the region,
Hamas has to go, and this is a
necessary step taken to ensure that Hamas does
go. And what happened was when when it
seemed that Hamas was agreeing, they were agreeing
with an amended Egyptian Qatari proposal,
which didn't take account of Israel's requirement for
Hamas to be removed.
Hamas are are are a symptom of a
very long problem. Hamas wasn't there from 1948,
the state the beginning of Israel.
Palestinian resistance has been for 77 years.
Right? Hamas is only some recent, new do
have to go. Right? Netanyahu
himself argued was useful for him to deny
the Palestinians' estate. That's what they do after
that. I mean Who? Sorry. Hamas. They do
they've gotta go. Right? I think that the
I the ICC should put arrest warrants for
everyone who's participated in genocide and and killing
civilians, including the Israeli government and so on.
What about Hamas?
Yeah. Well, let the ICC
issue arrest warrants to everyone No. And indict
them in court. If they have nothing to
worry I mean, not they're not if there
are any sort of warrants, they should be
arrested. They're not anyone who's who We respect
anyone who ordered the killing of civilians should
be arrested. That includes
the Israeli government more so who have killed
far more civilians, including women and children than
Hamas. Very quickly. This is a war that
was started by Hamas. It must be finished.
No. It was a war started by Israel,
50, 60 years ago. Ridiculous. And they have
blockaded Gaza. Attack
Israel in 19 48. They were bombing Gaza
in May last year. Forget 5 months before
September September.
Killing James. They've been bombing Gaza corrupt.
Okay. Well, look. We obviously could carry this
on all night. Thank you very, very much.
And, hopefully, we will pick this up again
at some point soon. Look. Coming up, 1
year on for the coronation, Penny Morden tells
all about how she prepared for that
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