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Is the Shariah Inhumane?

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Abdullah al Andalusi

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So I wanted to go home with a lovely piece of your one year old appraise alive Guinea, Guinea in his name and accent and salutations upon the Prophet peace be upon him. On behalf of Lancaster University's Islamic Society, I'd like to welcome you all. And thank those of you who are here, thank you for being here today. And really sad to see who's come all the way from London to deliver the speech today. My name is Khalid and I will be host for today's event. Before I do introduce the speaker, I just want to highlight the format of tonight's event that we have 40 to 45 minutes speech after which there'll be a question and answer session for 15 to 20 minutes. After this, there'll be

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enough time outside to socialize as well as to eat the hot snacks that are provided as well as take some free literature, which is also going to be available outside. Now it's my pleasure to introduce with Abdullah andalusi Abdullah andalusi was he was a former Christian of Portuguese descent who embraced Islam are very engaged and has studied Islam in depth ever since.

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He has long experience of working in the Muslim community and has activities involving writing, talking extensively in Islamic revivalism, philosophy, Sociology and Anthropology of the law has delivered talks throughout the UK. He's delivered him in universities in colleges, as well as Islamic centers. And he has also appeared on various TV programs too. He has also engaged in a number of discussions with atheists, humanists secularist Christians on variety of topics. And he is a member of the Muslim debate initiative, a public discussion forum that promotes open dialogue and debate. I'd like to welcome Abdullah andalusi for an insightful event.

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Thank you for that introduction. And thank you for everyone attending this medal of honor Him and humbled Aeroplan. I mean, our slot has long been committed and hit a beam wasabia Salim.

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today's talk is is Sharia inhumane? It's a very interesting title. And the reason why is because every day the media and newspapers and TV programs and movies portray Sharia on Islam as being inhumane while they are forced by the liberal, I guess you could say agenda to record to respect this from its spirit tradition, traditions as a religion. It also at the same time condemns any aspects of Islam, which is contrary to liberalism in the political legal aspects. But I want to answer this question properly and thoroughly. And so to do so, I'm going to bring some dictionary definitions. What does it mean to be inhumane? According to the Oxford English Dictionary, it is

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without compassion for misery or suffering, or being cruel.

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Compassion is defined in Oxford English Dictionary as sympathetic pity, and concern for the sufferings or misfortunes of others.

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But the common misconceived view about the Sharia is that it is specifically inhumane to three general categories, women, non Muslims, and sinners. What I mean by sin as I refer to Thebes, fornicators, and adulterers, and homosexuals, and so it is perceived that Islam is inhumane to these, these main groups of people.

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So to assess this, I will use two simple criteria.

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Is the Sharia inhumane or anti human? What does this mean? Does the Sharia not allow human beings to fulfill their natural needs to achieve a natural fulfillment? And the second criteria is, does the Sharia show compassion? Before we apply these criteria? Let me discuss something more fundamental, something which is the justifying principle and underlying framework to any system. How do we view human beings? First, let's take liberalism, that prevailing ideology in the Western world. liberal ists like to consider their ideology to be the benchmark of humane values, and anything that does not resemble liberalism is called inhumane.

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But let's take a closer look at liberalism. liberalism starts off with the premise of rights, that humans have a set of rights. But where did these rights come from? Who determines what rights humans have? How are these rights mystically assigned to humans? And where is the

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justification to this. If you were on desert island surrounded by natural predators, would they respect your rights? Does evolution respect the rights of living things?

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Just because something exists doesn't mean it naturally has rights. Like this, this chair exists this, this this chair have rights just because it exists.

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The philosopher Charles Taylor said, The very idea of starting an argument whose Foundation was the rights of the individual would have been strange and puzzling. Why do we begin to find it reasonable to start a political theory with an agitation of human rights and giving, giving it primacy?

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Islam views human beings differently? Islam starts on the premise of purpose. That man's purpose is to worship God, and to submit to the natural law governing our creation. Because everything can universe has a natural law. If you study physics, you'll look at the natural law of various inanimate objects, things, energies and forces. So the purpose of our existence is submit to the natural law for our our creation as part of this universe. First human beings begin with duties, because it is only through the existence of duties as a prerequisite that rights come into being. So if it is my duty to look after you to take care of you or to protect you, then you then will have

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the right for security, the right for preservation of life, because I am going to protect you That is my it will be my duty for example. And the Quran says oh mankind's, remain conscious of your duty to your Lord, who created you have a single soul and of like nature create its mate, and from the pair of them create and spread many women and men.

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Now, rights aside, liberalism posits a strange and irrational conception for human purpose. It starts by ignoring any higher purpose or mechanism that brought human beings into existence and instead focuses merely on a superficial explanation of our existence. liberalism says the purpose of human life is just sensual gratification, or in the common euphemism to seek happiness. But our physiologies and our instincts beg to differ. Our brain rewards us for achieving goals related to survival, moral or reproduction by releasing chemicals that are pleasurable pleasure pleasurable once we attain these objectives. But our brain does not release these chemicals for us doing

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nothing, or just existing. In essence, our body is pushing us to do things for a higher goal than just enjoying the ride. As a friend of mine put it, we eat to live, not live to eat.

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In contrast, Islam believes that creation has a purpose. And humans hold a purpose within that creation.

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The Quran says and we did not create the heaven and the earth and that which is between them aimlessly. This is the assumption of those who disbelieve so well to those who disbelieve Furthermore, liberalism's unjustified notions of human entitlement, together with making sacred the tyranny of the ego ones arbitrary whims and desires. married to a self centered perspective to the world has caused great evil as the strong compete against the weak with no regard for the consequences to other people, or other nations ability to provide for their population and now, even the environment is suffering. as Professor Daniel Bell lecturer in political science at the

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University of Singapore says, liberalism It is claimed contributes to or at least does not sufficiently take account of the negative social and psychological effects relate to the atomistic tendencies of modern liberal societies. There is undoubtedly a worrying trend in contemporary societies towards a callous individualism that ignores community and social obligations. And liberal theory does not seem up to the task of dealing with this problem.

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Islam knows that human impulses if you unleash them, they are insatiable. The Prophet Mohammed Salaam, said, if the son of Adam was to be given a valley to valleys full of gold, he would want a third one.

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So having a having a law that treats people equally regardless of their specific needs or abilities, and granting unrestricted liberty to a society in which people are possessed of natural advantages. For example, some people might have good looks. Some people might have intelligence, others might have wealth, others might have charisma and some might have influence. These people can leverage these advantages to exploit the people who do not have these advantages in that society, and hence, the strong world then explore

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The week in every sphere, as the Swiss philosopher, poet and critic on the federic. Emil said, liberty, equality, bad principles. The only true principle for mankind is justice, and justice to the feeble is protection and kindness.

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Islam prescribes morality and justice as its main focus, the Quran tells us, we have sent our messengers with clear signs and sent that with them, the book and the measure in order to establish justice among the people.

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Islam understands that human beings are not iron willed moral heroes, and so does not hold human beings to unrealistically high standards of conduct. Islam does not allow alcohol, but then prosecute people who do bad things while they're drunk. Islam does not condone exploiting women's sexuality to sell products, but then condemns men for womanizing and infidelity. Islam does not advocate unrestricted amassing of wealth, but then condemns bankers for not caring about the poor who suffer from the economic fallout. liberalism does. And then it wonders why crime rates are so high, why there is economic inequality and why one in four women have reported sexual rape or

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attempted sexual rape in both America and UK and I got those visits from rape crisis UK.

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Humans are capable of noble and righteous actions, but they are also fallible and weak. They can act irrationally are easily influenced by their social and economic environment, they generally can succumb to a variety of temptations like cheating on one spouse smoking addiction, unhealthy eating addiction, alcohol, addiction, womanizing, being distracted by various forms of media, greed, pride, etc, etc. So Islam aims to tackle the sources of man's weakness and promote more positive satisfactions for human impulses. And more importantly, it does not expect superhuman standards of conduct it tries to be realistic when organizing humans. The Quran tells us Allah would make the

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burden light for you, for man was created week. The Prophet Mohammed Solomon said, I have been sent with an easy and practicable Sharia. And in this context, sharing means law. The Sharia aims to protect and liberate human beings from base desires to enable them to fully realize themselves without hampering the rights of others. Though the in the Quran, it says those who follow the messenger who enjoined upon them net which is right and forbids them which is wrong, he will make law for them all the good things, and prohibit for them all the bad things

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and he will relieve them of their burdens and the fetters which they used to wear. So Islam aims to liberate human beings from self destructive conduct and mutually destructive conduct in society. And harm isn't only physical harm, people think that that was the problem if you allow freedom for everyone, as long as you don't physically harm each other. That will be fine. If every human being was an island unto themselves emotionally, but you can emotionally harm people, you can stop them from achieving their goals you can make them depressed you can make them

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incur emotional pain which is greater than physical pain.

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So Islam does not deny natural human fulfillment seeks to facilitate and liberated.

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Sharing organizes human beings so that they don't act to impinge each other's rights however it encourages and leaves unrestricted, the positive ways of fulfillment. For example, Islam prohibits fornication and adultery, but it encourages marriage. Assam prohibits interest but encourages trade and investment. Islam prohibits sexual exploitation and public immodesty, but encourages beautification, romance and sexual satisfaction inside the marriage for both men and women.

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Human beings are weak, so the Sharia will help to remove public temptations and promote positive reinforcement. I'll give you an example. The Prophet Mohammed is awesome said that he was commanding speaking to attune to men, If any man sees a woman that charms him, go back home to your wife, she has the like it, she has the same thing. So deny doing something wrong, which is cheating on your wife and go back home to your wife and fulfill your desire with her. This is positive reinforcement.

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So the first criteria is the Sharia inhuman or anti human IE does it allow human beings to achieve natural fulfillment? Well, let's discuss the first category I mentioned women is the Sharia in humans.

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to women.

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Firstly, in Islam, men and women are viewed as fundamentally equal. In the Quran, Allah Spano. Allah says, I do not waste the deed of any do among you be the male or female, the one of you is as the other.

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Secondly,

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as individuals, Islam gave women the right to own property when they had no right. And it was only recently, I think within the last century that women in this country had the right to own property.

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The second thing, women have the right to keep her property after marriage and not give the husband any of it. They have the right to be given a marriage gift, usually a considerable sum of money in some cases, and if divorced, they are they have to receive alimony. Women have the right to vote, the prophet Mohammed Sawsan requested the Pledge of Allegiance for his leadership from women and was not only satisfied received from men, women have the right to work and own a business the prophets wife Khadija and her was a successful businesswoman. Women have the right to an education. Women have a right to choose who they marry. The Prophet Mohammed is seldom a node, a marriage of a woman

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who was forced to get married to the man by her father, but because she liked that man after the marriage, she said, No, that's not it. I just came here on principle to see that being forced marriage is not Islamic way.

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Women have the right for sexual satisfaction in marriage. The Prophet Mohammed, Salah salams spoke to a guy and reprimanded him. A man who was outside of his house constantly needs to go back home to your wife, she has a right upon you.

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The women in Islam have a right to affection and love in marriage. And they also have a right to dignity and respect a right that's not given in the West if you just listen to what couples were arguing, say to each other, both on soap opera TV, and in real life, you'll see what I mean.

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And what I mean by being team respect is not being insulted or reviled or using bad names but we all know what the names used for women in society are which you see on TV name for example, like a female dog, for example, which they use to refer to women, as it's meant to be all jokey and fun but but then guys speak to each other with this, this and this name all the time is unknown acceptable. Why Alcoa shady narrated that he went to the Prophet Mohammed, Solomon asked him what do you command us about our wives? He replied, give them food from what you have for yourself, clothed them from what you clothe yourself, and do not beat them and do not revile them or Do not insult them, Do not

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insult them.

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The Quran says and among his science is this the he created for you wise for amongst yourselves, that ye may find repose in them. And he has put between you affection and mercy fairly in that are indeed signs for people who reflect. So the basis for marriage is affection, and mercy.

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In a Hadith, the prophet Mohammed saucer them ordered men, not one of you should fall upon his wife like an animal. But let there be first a messenger between you. And they asked, What is that messenger? And he replied, It is kisses and words. So don't just attack so to speak your wife sexually like an animal, but rather approach that with romance and gentleness.

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In fact, even the children of women in Islam are taught to respect their mothers more than their fathers. A person came to the Prophet Muhammad SAW settlements asked, Who amongst the people is most deserving of my fine treatment? He responded your mother? And then he wasn't Then who? And the Prophet said your mother again, but then who? Your mother and then who? Then your father.

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So women are held in very high esteem in Islam.

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And I think a confusion ally arises regarding the issue of equality because in liberalism is assumed that if you're equal, then the law should treat you absolutely the same. But liberalism doesn't even follow does not even consistent on that because if someone is handicapped or disabled, they have extra privileges to compensate for them being handicapped disabled, which the law gives them disabled people, which you don't get. So the law treats people who are different differently, even in liberalism. Yet when Islam does so it is it is revealed as being

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equal and making rendering women are second class citizens. But I'll explain how what Islam does for God's women and men. Islam is functionalist in basically, if you have different abilities, then you have different responsibilities. So if you can give birth to a child, then you have a responsibility to a man who can't give birth to a child and doesn't have to carry a child inside for nine months and bear the pains of birth and child rearing. So Islam recognizes that the difference

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between men and women, I know it sounds obvious, but it is the case. And the basic social unit in Islam is the family in liberalism is the individual. And herein lies the problem. And in communism, it's society, the society is just one home. But we want to we're not discussing communism here today. In Islam, the basic reproductive unit and first port mechanism is the family. Individuals are born into a family, not the other way around.

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If society doesn't help you, your family will, therefore the family has to be the bedrock of society.

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So the family structure is organized like this. Men who nature's made physically stronger, taller and bigger, are the maintainers and protectors of women. In the Quran, it says and women should have rights similar to the rights against them according to what is equitable, but men have a degree of responsibility over them and Allah is Exalted in Power and wise. It's funny because in nature, what we see in nature is if different animals with their different agenda, for example, say ants, for example, and the Queen, obviously, she's the she is the basis of the entire nest, but you haven't have specialized work ends and specialized soldier ants. And these ants have to do special tasks,

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because they are the soldier and has bigger claw mandibles, so he can obviously attack threats and dangers and the workers obviously they work and they can't reproduce in most species of ants, so they all rely on the queen to be the base of the nest. So is our is society on equal? Should we be campaigning for ant rights? No, this is how nature organizes creatures and we are creatures we are part of nature. So why can't we admit the functionalism in our in our own species. In the West, the concept of equality is for women to resemble what a man considers to be successful, ie having a high flying career. But who says a career is better than motherhood? Does. Maintaining a high flying

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career equates in important importance to nurturing and giving birth literally to the future of the human race, which one is more important? Having a job or a future for the human species.

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The summit social system is designed such that a woman should never have to worry about the upkeep and protection of her person or her children. She's always guaranteed a guardian, a man is not.

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Men are obligated in Islam to spend their wealth on the upkeep of women. Women do not have to spend a single Deena of their wealth on men. This is also why you see men having more inheritance than women because men have to spend that inheritance on providing and feeding for their family, whereas women don't have any obligations, where to spend their money. Women are entitled to alimony after divorce, but men are not

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in Islam and in the natural world. Functional specialization, as I said does not mean inequality. It means that what is different amongst us be used to best help others.

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So men are physically stronger, have high endurance for physical work and can run 10% faster, women are not able to achieve the same sporting records that men achieve in life for like activities. Men are specialized for competition, physical work and fighting, fast slump seems to employ men solely to defend, maintain, perpetuate and improve the living conditions of women. So in essence, as guys, we are literally the worker, and soldier ants, and we our whole life actually orbits around the women of our families. And that's basically what the purpose of men is just basically to provide for and take care and look after women. Some could say that Islam is unfair on men. Now, maybe in my

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next talk, I have to call for men's rights in Islam.

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But Islam has liberated women, basically to be women, and not have to worry about mundane things like where their next meal was coming from, or feeling insecure to possible threats in society, like rapists and murderers. A woman's choice to work is now one that she can make at leisure, not out of necessity.

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The true reality of Islam is men and women need each other. And in Islam, there is no battle of the sexes like in the West, but rather men women are viewed as allies and helpers to each other. In the Quran. Allah tells us and the believers men and women are friends one of the other day enjoy what is right and forbid what is wrong. And they establish worship and pay charity and they obey God and His Messenger. As for these God will grant mercy on them.

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Now, I think the next section is quite an interesting one, because there is a lot of misconceptions about this is the Sharia inhumane to non Muslims

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Firstly, non Muslims living in Islamic State, unfortunate which there is none in current existence

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are not compelled to become Muslim. The Quran says and everyone everyone knows this, there is no compulsion in religion. Truth stands out clear from error. So because we are so confident of the truth, there is no compulsion in religion.

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The Prophet Mohammed Salaam Salaam encountered delegation of Christians from sin campus and Catherine's monastery in the Sinai and they basically asked to be incorporated into the stomach validity. And here is the agreement that the Prophet Mohammed made with them for how they should live as citizens in the Islamic system.

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This is the message from Mohammed bin Abdullah is the Prophet Mohammed song's name as a covenant to those who adopt Christianity near and far we are with them. Verily I the servants to help us and my followers defend them, because Christians are my citizens. And by Allah I hold out against anything that this pleases them. no compulsion is to be upon them. Neither are their judges to be removed from their jobs nor their monks from their monitors. No one is to destroy a house of their religion to damage it or to carry anything from it to a Muslim house. Should anyone take any of these he would split with God's covenant and disobey His Prophet. Verily, they are my allies and have a

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secure charter against all that they hate. No one is to force them to travel or to oblige them to fight. The Muslims are to fight for them. If a female Christian is married to a Muslim, it is not to take place without her approval. She is not to be prevented from visiting her church to pray. Their churches are to be respected, they are needed to be prevented from repairing them, nor the sacredness of their competence. No one of the nation of Muslims is to disobey this covenant until the last day, ie the end of the world.

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The Prophet Mohammed also said whoever oppresses a person on the covenant which is basically a non Muslim citizen, or oppresses him or imposes on him something more than he can afford, or humiliates him, or takes anything from him without his consent, I will oppose him on the Day of Judgment. Now imagine the horror in the mind of the Muslim to know that if you did something the Prophet Muhammad SAW some would oppose you himself on a day of judgment, indicating it is forbidden for us to oppress, impose, or even humiliate, not even allowed to insult a non Muslim in living in a Muslim land you don't get that kind of rights or freedoms in this country.

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So non Muslims are allowed if you notice that George is not to be removed in that covenant non Muslims are allowed their own law systems as the Sharia does not believe in one law. Why should people who don't believe in your beliefs be forced to live under your religious laws? That's not fair.

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Henrik Grice, a 19th century Jewish historian expressed how some equal in Spain favor the Jews in the context of kindness and liberty of belief. He says, it was a nice favorable circumstances that the Spanish Jews came under the rule of the Maha mettons, which is the word for Muslims, as whose allies they steam themselves equals their co religionists in Babylonia and Persia, they were kindly treated, obtain religious liberty, of which they had been so long deprived, they were permitted to exercise jurisdiction over their fellow co religionists, and we're only obliged like the concrete questions to pay a tax for citizenship.

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In summary, your rights as a non non Muslim citizen are as follows.

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You have the right to believe what you want. You have the right to live under your own laws, even in your own communities, which according to Islamic sources, seems to possess a degree of autonomy, which is more that can be said for secular countries. You have the right to representation in the people's parliament, otherwise known as the matchless Aloma, you have the right to express your beliefs and challenge Muslim beliefs in public debate. Like for example, the Christians of madman who came to the Prophet Mohammed mosque met the Prophet debated him, denied him as being a prophet, pray the Christian prayers in the mosque, and then left back from that run, and there was no

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problem.

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You have the right to be protected by Muslim armies who will fight to the death to protect you in return. All that is required is a tax for citizenship that helps support these armies. If you choose to participate in military service, which almost males have to do, your citizenship tax is way that like the tribe of algebra Jima, which was a Christian tribe that lived outside Antioch, they said, We want to pay the citizen tax we'll actually participate in military fighting like most of males are and that's fine then your tech is wavered.

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If

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You are a woman or child you don't pay citizenship taxes and tax is an exemption from military duty, which women and children are obliged to perform. If you are poor, disabled or old, you are entitled to state support from the Treasury. We all know the story. The Muslims hear that Kelly for Omar encountered a old Christian, blind mental beggar. And as soon as he encountered this person said, how could we have taken your tax from you when you were younger, and now the destitute? And he was so he was so appalled about this, that this person was used to begging that he took him to the Treasury and setting up pay this man where he needs to basically live. So IE state grant. These are

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the rights that ensured Islam create a successful multicultural system that lasted centuries. In fact, I challenge anyone to find a country in the Western world that equals these rights. Are you tax exempt? If you join the army? Are you allowed to your own religious laws and your own autonomous areas? No. In fact, they say that multiculturalism isn't working so much for liberalism being pluralistic.

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The third category now, is Sharia inhumane to sinners. Is Sharia barbaric for people who basically break the law or break its statutes. The Sharia is not totalitarian. It does not regulate what you do in the privacy of your own home. The Quran says Old Believers, do not enter other people's houses, until you own a piece of houses, then then your own until you have the approval of the inhabitants inside and wish them peace. This is the best way for you. It is expected that you will observe it

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The purpose of the penal system in Islam is to only public acts of corruption, bad example, all temptation. The Sharia is not for regulating the piety of people in private sphere that is between them and God. Islam is not here to meet the Sharia is not here to make you a better Muslim in private, that's your duty.

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The penal system Islam only has a handful, only a handful of punishments, which are capital offenses. And as we know, capital punishment means execution.

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But Islam considers the alternative to capital punishment to be more barbaric, locking people in cages like animals, where they are forced to do horrific things to each other to survive. And I won't even go into that because it's, it's probably we're too young to know. And this sample says Be horrific, and people are upset, why isn't someone to live in a cage? why that's less inhumane, they're suffering, you know, prolong their suffering. These executions is very quick for people who, for example, commit murder. And it's not the only one who said this. The famous liberal philosopher john Stuart Mill. He said, If, in the horror of inflicting death, we endeavor to devise some

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punishment for living criminals, which shall act on the human mind with the terrorist force at all compared with that of death. We are driven to inflictions, less severe indeed in appearance, and therefore less efficacious, but far more cruel in reality. So even john Stuart Mill was up and he was he said this in in favor of not abolishing the capital punishment in England because in essence, in his entire discussion, he was saying that people are deterred by death penalty, if you remove it, then your prisons will be filled, overflowing. And it seems that his prediction has come true. British prisons are now filled to overflowing. And America, for example, has the highest prison

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population in the world, even beats China beat China.

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China has much more bigger population, 1 billion people so that's even more humiliating on America.

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The Sharia aims to maintain the protection of property life and the institution of marriage and family. In regards to this, the protection of property

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it's it has a punishment for people who commit committed theft or the thief and the punishment is amputation of the hand. And this has been portrayed as being very barbaric, but people don't understand the conditions.

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If a person steals because they are poor,

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there is no punishment, in fact, to shame on the state, the state should have been providing for the poor person, why do you think

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you have to steal from a secure location and take it by stealth and the amount that you still must be one quarter above one quarter of a gold coin value, and you must steal from outside of your family. So basically, you have to go out of your way to steal a band goes out of his way to still buy stuff from a secure location. And he does it for pure luxury, not for profit.

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He does it for luxury, then it's not amputate the hand and why does he amputate the hand? Because what do you still with? What does the thief need, he needs his hands. So if a society that does not value material objects or commercialization as the primary goal of human of human life, and insight, whereby you are catered for your family will be paid for as a bare minimum stay will provide for you if you are poor, in that kind of society where virtue is promoted. And self interest is not the basis of human considerations. If you still still, despite all these, all these conditions, environmental conditions, and you secure still from a secure location from step above one quarter

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value of a gold coin, and there must be something wrong of you. Now, if you are insane, then you're not punished because an insane person can't be punished. They're not it's not they're not to blame. But if you're sane, and you still do all this, then you are a danger to the economic system. And so you are the economic system must be protected. And you are denied the means to steal which is IE amputation of the hand is not for the gruesomeness of that punishment is actually serve a functional purpose. Islam also believes in the protection of life. The punishment for murder, obviously is execution. However, the the family of the victim can choose to forgive the murderer and only and

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demand compensation for the the murder. Obviously, you don't get that in this society, the aspect of forgiveness. Also, and this is this is the the main contention on adultery. The punishment for adultery in Islam, is capital punishment. Yes. However, what is the conditions? What is the conditions you need in Islam, for witnesses, to the act of adultery, and it must be absolutely clear that there was

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sexual intercourse, not just two bodies next to each other, but absolutely clear, I won't go into detail but you can use your imaginations. Now unless you're, you're filming in a football stadium with everyone watching. You're not going to get caught. It's not designed. It's not practical. If I was going to make a law to catch adulterers, it's this is not a practical law. I'll catch no one with this no four witnesses, four witnesses, and they all have their own testimony must be exactly the same. And if not, they're punished for false witness

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is designed for its deterrent effect. The purpose of this law is just to deter you from committing adultery if I said, for example, that anyone who writes a unicorn will be hung drawn and quartered. It's a horrific, horrific, hung drawn and quartered, very horrific, but running a unicorn. They don't exist. But I bet I'll make you think twice about drawing a picture of a unicorn.

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You think this count doesn't make you think twice. And it is purely best as its function is preventative, and I'll show you what I'll go forward into showing why this lumps focus and punishment is actually just preventive. And of course, as we know, fornication, of sex outside marriage is what is prescribed not capital punishment, but corporal punishment. So it's not execution. But the reason why is because the human being as human beings, we are based on families, families are protective commitment based units. When you if a man sees a woman, there must be commitment, the man must be ready to commit to that woman, and vice versa. You shouldn't be playing

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around with her heart. You know, they find scientists discovered that basically, when you in sexual intercourse, your brain produces oxytocin, which is basically makes you love of love the person you trust to increase love. So in essence, the saying making love is literally true. So if you were to have sex with no commitment, and no family and no long term emotion, then isn't this going against our natures and it's going against human nature to form long term relationships and bonding via sexual intercourse?

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So this is is the Samak penal system. It actually advocates forgiveness and but I haven't finished with with discussing the penal system. But I'll jump on next to another major issue. homosexuals. Those the Sharia kill homosexuals. Will homosexuals be massacred? in Islamic State? The answer is no. Actually, yes, the answer is no. Islamic texts do not define or judge people by their sexual preferences. Islam doesn't discriminate against homosexuals because we don't discriminate homosexuals from any other human being. There is no word in the Quran or the Hadith for a person whose sexual preference is the same gender. It doesn't even discuss them as a as a group. It just

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talks about the crime, which is sodomy. It just talks about the crime not about the person

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In the Hadith, the prophet Mohammed Islam said, Allah forgives my people for the evil thoughts that occurs in their hearts. So basically, you're not held accountable for your sexual desires you have in your heart, Allah will not hold you accountable for what you're holding your hearts in terms of your desires. So why should we now hate this race somehow, like this kind of racial group called the homosexual? Did you know that once they were labeled and categorized, then discrimination began in in the West before that, it was called sodomy. And they didn't have the European and ancient, even ancient history, people didn't have a specific word for a person that basically sleeps with the same

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gender. It was only in recent times. They said right there it is heterosexuals and homosexuals and bisexuals, when they came up with a descriptive term, then homosexuals became discriminated, then you're no longer just a human being that has sexual preferences. You're now a heterosexual or homosexual. It's a artificial categorization, which Islam doesn't do and hence Islam can't discriminate. Islam does not punish men for living together and not as it does it spy on them. So Islam shall read books about what people do inside the privacy of their own homes. Islam doesn't prohibit men from holding hands in public or hugging if you go to some of the Arabic countries in

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the world. Men do that. Anyway.

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Even kissing, but we won't go there.

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Islam only prohibits public sexual intercourse. That's it. Ironically, even in this country, you can't have sex in public. So I don't know why Islam is singled out as hating on homosexuals. Islam also punished people who are heterosexual isn't that term, who commit public acts of intercourse. So again, as I said before, Islam only regulates the public square society is a living organism and what you do in public affects people's perceptions, inclinations and desires, even unconsciously.

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Now, the second criteria I've dealt with with the is is Islam allow or not allow natural human fulfillment adult the second criteria and that second criteria is does the Sharia show compassion.

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The Prophet Muhammad SAW Salaam said in a hadith ward of the capital punishment, the whole dude from the Muslim as much as you can, if there is any possible way for the accused, let him go for a judge to make a mistake in pardoning is better than him making a mistake in punishing the Prophet Mohammed also said, forgive, each forgive the capital offenses amongst use of so find the way to forgive each other for the cat, even the capital offense like murder amongst each other before and don't bring it to me because you bring it to me I have to punish. So forgive it before don't come to me just try and forgive it amongst yourself. So the program is trying to encourage and again there was a man

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called Herzog who encouraged his friends, my is to confess to adultery that he had committed the problem having narrated the off the punishment of miners, he said, Woe to you, oh hassall if you had, if you had veiled him with your with your mental with your coat, basically, it would have been better for you. If you had hit his sin, if you told him if you had not encouraged him to go out in public, you know, that would have been better for you. ie, don't try to get you know, don't try to snitch and don't try to if you possibly can. If crimes, you know, crime happens, which hasn't hurt anyone like murder, for example. So if the crime hasn't hurt, hurt anyone, then keep it yourself.

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Hopefully God will forgive you or will forgive your friend. And this is what the prophet Mohammed is saying. So we don't want to disarm it almost seems like he doesn't want to punish. He doesn't want to implement these punishments. If these punishments have implemented in the shower is failed. That's basically the case is failed to deter you from committing that crime. So basically, the Sharia allows forgiveness for crimes. The Sharia sets almost absurdly high standards of evidence for prosecution of capital offenses, while allowing the preventive significance to regulate and deter people share it encourages personal forgiveness. The shery encourages hiding one's crimes, if it did

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not involve physical harms, they said so there's no pleat concept of a police state in Islam, where you put cameras up everywhere. Unlike perhaps the country we might be living in. Sharia takes into account mitigating circumstances like crimes committed out of poverty, which cannot be punished by fit. And but it does not allow the rich to get away with committing a crime. We know the story of a noble woman from the tribe of Muslim who stole at a time of the Prophet Mohammed Salam. Ana, people wanted to intercede on our behalf because she was a rich, noble woman, and noble person. And the Prophet Mohammed became angry and said, Do you intercede concerning a rights set by God, those who

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came before you were destroyed, because if the rich committed a crime or stole they would let him off. But if a lowly person stole they would carry out the punishment by God. If Fatima bint Mohammed was his daughter, it might be he says if my daughter was committed crime, I would cut off her hand as well.

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So we are impartial, some justice is impartial. And liberalism money affords leverage due to the unfair system of defense representation. The rich can hire the best lawyers, presumably, it is done because at the better law you get the better results in court you get. But how is that fair and just isn't justice meant to give you 130? Why should having a good lawyer affect the result? Not Why?

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liberalism in the name of impartiality and equality doesn't forgive, but and it applies its laws on those people who may not even believe in them. Like, for example, in France, the banning of your job in schools in Switzerland, the banning of minarets, and so on. That's not fair. Why must we be? Must we be facing such law, but hey, it's it's liberalism, somehow it makes sense to them. So Islam doesn't believe in one law, it says that you do believe in different beliefs, that's fine, then you have your own religious laws, we're not going to impose our law system on you.

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And there are two there's my final points. Now to wrap up. I have some final points. These are things that people don't ask, but I want to mention that because you need to you need to hear this. Islam is humane to the poor. Islam bans interest advocates currency based on gold and silver, not artificial printed paper. It bans monopolies and hoarding of wealth. It encourages charity, investment, charitable lending, spending, and has a rich tax equals a cut, which must go towards eight categories. And you should hear these categories are very interesting. Those living in absolute poverty, those who cannot meet their basic needs, the collectors themselves doing their

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job, people who are non Muslims to aid reconciliation, people who whom is one are tending to free from slavery and bondage. So basically, you visit the slave you basically buy them and liberate them.

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Those who have incurred overwhelming decks while attempting to satisfy their basic needs those working for an Islamic cause we refuse to be the law and the travelers in need. So when you travel when you run out of money, and you can't get back to your house, whatever your home then you want to add to the cart is the eight categories of people in tied to the cart money and Islam is humane to the week.

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It grounds justice the week the common people who are not people influence or power like me and you

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is this is why Islam is anti tyrannical and anti democratic. tell you why. James Madison, American founding father, he said, a pure democracy can admit no cure to the mischiefs of faction, a common passionate interest will be felt by the majority, and there is nothing to check the inducements to sacrifice the weaker party. Hence it is that democracies have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths. And the Quran says oh, you who believe stand out firmly for justice as witnesses to God, even against yourselves, or your parents or your kin. And whether it be

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rich or poor, for Allah can best protect both follow not your lusts of your hearts. Yes, the swerve. And if you distort justice, or the client to justice, God is acquainted with all that you do. And the Quran also says, If you bear the majority of people on earth, they will divert you from the path of God. They follow only conjecture and they only guess Islam we don't follow majorities because that means oppression of the minority because Switzerland majority voted for banning minarets, so much for rights, and Islam. We don't allow the rule of the minority or the rule of a dictatorship. The Khalif in Islam who is elected by the people must and has to implement the Sharia whether he

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likes it or not, and there is no negotiation. And I will conclude with the saying of Omar bin Saad Ansari and comparing the Prophet Mohammed sauce Allah, Islam will remain strong so long as the Islamic ruling is strong. The strength of a semi ruling needed comes from floating with the whip or killing with the sword, but from ruling with justice and holding fast to the truth. In conclusion, I would posit that liberalism is inhumane communism, which I haven't discussed much is inhumane. But Islam is humane and compassionate. And humans are capable of goodness and bad, but Islam tries to eliminate the cause of bad and encourage the sources of good and human behavior.

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Thank you.

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Thank the speaker for enlightening us in the topic. I'm really opening up to the floor. Now you can ask any question you want. The question and answer session will last for 15 minutes. So please do raise your hand and ask any question you want. I think paper is also going to be passed around so if you don't want to ask by voice and just write your questions down and pass the papers

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I'll be more than happy to reach out to this speaker. anyone have any questions? Don't be shy, put your hands up and ask the questions.

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The polygamy first, why is it allowed? I think this is an interesting question. You know, scientists have looked at something in different species of animals is called sexual dimorphism, which is basically the the differences in in the the apparent look and physique of sexes within any particular species. And they've noted that the greater the sexual dimorphism, the greater the difference between the male the the prince, the male and the female, the more the tendency towards polygamous relationships, then the monogamous relationship. So for example, swans, who the male and female virtue resemble each other identically, then they're monogamous. But other species like for

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example, roosters, and chickens, for example, in one rooster with many chickens, that is the kind of polygamous relationship because of the rooster looks different in the chickens. So it is, in essence, big men, women, we look different. And in some cases, we follow this natural law of all creatures, whereby we have tendencies to plug into polygamy as well. But there are conditions that come along with that. And this is because there is one male to every female generally, and there might be a few extra females and so on, but because there is one males, every female generally monogamy is the prescribed method that most Muslims follow that 99% of Muslims will follow. But if

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in case of war, or due to various issues or conditions that for example, a husband dying, there are widows, and there are women who basically have kids, and no one to support them there rather than leave them to fend for their own for their own slums allow the man to take on overprotection responsibility of additional women to his wife. Now, obviously, you'll need to have the financial resources to accommodate two women, and treat them both equally, to houses to help them which most of us can't get and will probably never get. And of course, I mean, treating two wives equally, this is a very, very big task since that some men seem to have problem treating one wife equally to their

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rights responsibilities. So in essence, it's a it's a very high standard. And in essence, it can only be satisfied by people who are very rich, and have loads of properties and lots of wealth that they could look after the women who are widows and divorcees and the Prophet Muhammad SAW sort of married women who were most of the women he married were people who were divorcees, and war widows. So this is basically the conditions around around polygamy, most men will probably not do it and can't do it. Even though when they're young, they like to joke that they will, but they never will, wants to discover how demanding being responsible for one person is they generally change their

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mind. So that's basically in a nutshell, the conditions for polygamy.

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You mentioned football, but he didn't mention anything about

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it. So that was

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blood.

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All right. I know you're trying to, you're referring to the okay. Historians have discovered there are two aspects of oma. And there's a great treatise by a Palestinian christian right, I forget his name, who who actually discussed this in depth. The first pack of Walmart is very simple when it gives Christians

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for equal rights. It's not controversial at all whatsoever. The second pack vomer they call it the second mode is a forgery and a fake which has, which came much much later at a time where Arab nationalism was basically dominating or kind of our tribalism was dominating the homemade Calif. caliphates which Muslims later on rebelled against and change because it was unequal and unfair. So during that time, non Muslims were given a bit more of a raw deal. And this was because the the people in power, were going outside of the remit of Islam, and they were basically at that time, if you were a Persian or a Turk, and you wanted to become a Muslim, they didn't didn't treat you as

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Muslims because only Arabs could be on the Arabs will be be Muslim and they wanted to get your car tax as well as your your car tax as well as your jizya tax, which is the citizenship tax as well. So people became Muslim in spite of a corrupt government at that time, and then the episodes cause a revolution amongst with Persians leading at the front and change this corrupt system and restore a more equal base system back to its Islamic roots. Of course, not every avenue Khalifa was on

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Obviously spotless, but the fact that you had a lot of revolutions and uprisings in early Islam shows that people believe in Islam and we're not going to take oppression from their leader. And in Islam, you're encouraged to change your leader as soon as he deviates from ruling by the book of God, which a lot of these colleagues unfortunately did.

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Well, it's quite low books

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but I mean if you if you the variety of books if you want a book on just state ruling, there's more these

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at Kama Sutra Nia, which is the

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the rules of governing in Islam. That's a good book, A been whodunnit. Kadima is a very good book, the introduction to history is a very good book, the grandfather of sociology, considered by many, as a very good book to look at, he studies it from a holistic sense, and looks at different societies. He condemns various rulings, various governments, his time of being not Islamic, not acting, according to Islam, and it was in the 14th century. And he exposed how exposed how there was the corruption of going against Islam, and how this was a detriment to Islam and the Muslims. And as Muslims, we are most successful when we are following Islam, we're implementing Islam. And we are

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less successful when we are treating people unequally and unjust, unjustly, so that there's a variety of books, but inshallah

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I'll probably send maybe less than to the Amir. And you can send them out to people just reading list for you to

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mention that when

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sure what Okay, I mean, Tina was sharing it in his country. I mean, because, yeah, because the people are, let's say, if tomorrow 80% convert to Islam or something like this, then or whatever, then then fine. We can talk about discussing Sharia. For those people who are not, who are not Muslims, they are not forced to fast, they're not forced to pray like us. They can, I mean, you found that in a time of, in the 10th century, Christian areas, they were raising pigs in muslin underneath a Muslim state, Islamic State, you had pig pens, in the Christian areas where they eat bacon and things like this, which, you know, Christians are allowed to eat were not. And they had

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alcohol, and they were consuming alcohol in their own areas, but obviously, not in the Muslim areas. So it would be basically like this, that they would have their zones, I think that the most, the best comparison, in modern day world I could see is I think, maybe Indonesia or Malaysia, we're basically in the time of Ramadan, Muslims aren't allowed to eat, but non Muslims are, are allowed to eat. And that's what like, that's the only as the closest I can find to that kind of multicultural system that Islam envision.

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Or the other place would be possibly Saudi Arabia with their zones where they allow Americans to come and exploit the soil, but they don't employ they don't apply the Sharia, on these people, to these peoples, the people in these little zones, they walk around, expose with shorts and everything like this, and they and they drink and they and they do whatever Americans do, and no shower was applied on them. And you know, what people say? Are these Muslims come to UK and how, you know, they like if I go over there to that country and act where I do, what do you do anyway? Yeah, but Well, I could point to Saudi Arabia, that you know, that you they have compounds where the show is not

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applied. Although one could argue that shows not even outside those compounds, that's a different different discussion

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to this area of anything, but

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international politics, does it say anything?

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international about how to rule countries and international level. Sure.

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Basically, there are a few verses of Quran which I brought for this precise question, you're gonna come up the other surprises in the Quran?

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And what is the matter with you that you find not in the cause of Allah for the oppressed amongst men, women and children who say, Our Lord, take us out of this town of oppressive people and appoint for us from yourself a protector and appoint for us from yourself a helper. This the Islamic international perspective would be that we would be against oppression wherever it is, and to whoever is done to the first quadrant say Where's Matt? Have you found the cause of Allah for the Muslim men or women She didn't say that. This is for men, women and children.

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generic, as in all men, women and children, whoever is oppressed amongst men, women, children, we as Muslims must, must fight within the Quran also says, Allah does not forbid you to do justly and kindly with those who fought you not on the account of your religion, and did not drive you out of your homes. Verily, Allah loves those who deal with equity. So the Quran is commanding us, those people who don't fight you and don't kick you out your home and don't fight you because your religion or for other reasons, like material wealth, for whatever reason, don't fight you, Allah does not forbid you from dealing kindly and justly with them and are in another loves those who deal

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with equity. So this is a foreign policy right here. So those people who have designs in the Muslim world and want to take resources and want to attack and kill Muslims and occupy Muslim land, as they've done in Israel occupied Palestine, then then our policy is is very, very simple that we will prohibit that and prevent, prevent that. And as I said, when people say, Oh, you want to wipe, you know, Jews off the map, or whatever. And I said, No, you know, Jews can stay, they've been 1400 years, Jews and Muslims living together harmoniously, as that Jewish historian mentioned. But the Zionists have to go. And there's a difference between Jews and Zionists. So this is basically the

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stomach foreign policy. And it doesn't matter which country it was, when that was happening at a time when Islamic States we would wait, you know, set a few soldiers and then leave, you know, retreat them and let people be massacred or what happened in in, in eastern Bosnia, we wouldn't do that we'd go straight in there. If we had the means we go straight in there. And we'd help the poor and oppressed because in Islam, we view this as the best form of dialogue. If you display justice, and you display care and compassion is the best way to convey your civilization's values, and if you believe in them, and it's funny, the Western countries who claim they can believe in human rights,

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but they support dictatorships, and they support dictatorships often just to the point where they're about to fall, and then they change and say, Oh, yeah, we're against the Tunisian regime now. Yeah, even though France and America and England have been supplying to some regime, the anti riot gear bullets and things, and Libya had been a best mate best mates with UK recently. And of course, Egypt was best friends with America and Israel. And they were supporting them until the point where they thought Oh, he's gonna he's gonna go okay. Yeah, we condemned tyranny. Oh, banks in a very, very timely. So that was my, my answer.

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You got any examples of any actual countries?

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Unfortunately, not. It historically, obviously, there was many, many caliphates which were implemented in the shower system, the ultimate did for longest period of time until they the client and then they started to mix and match their their law system with I think, some foreign elements, and they just collapsed after World War One. So unfortunately, this discussion is mostly theoretical, but it has historical precedence. And hence, I quote historians, to find my examples of civilization, I have to go back in history, which is a shame that just like it is a shame that, for example, in the time of the caliphate, Muslims had a higher literary rating than than they do now.

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For example, in the same areas, it's strange. So for us to progress, we have to go back or whatever. In fact, our values not as effective technology at that time, but we were forefront of technology. We are forefront in development. We are forefront economically, and military and so on. And now we're not. And why is that? And if you look at our countries, it should be obvious. Our countries, our secular regimes, our countries, we're not following the Sharia, we think we are told the shower is outmoded. And that you should follow democracy and liberalism circles because it brings peace and prosperity to the world, but it doesn't. So now what Muslims are in the middle of a crossroads? Do

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we say oh, well, let's try to reform Islam like the Christians did their belief and then become secular and then make the same mistakes again? Or do we have trust and competence in our belief, and actually strive to implement an average themes and cause a positive change? Where whereby instead of meanings give us lecture today, we can just point to the news and say, that's our state. There. You'll see Islam, Forster here this is a free ticket.

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Please visit

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Muslim

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country.

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From what I know the Sharia ruling on this is if you go to a foreign country, or you live in a foreign country and you make an agreement I to live in that country then you must respect the rules and laws in our country. However, if they command you to do something against your belief or your good conscience, then you can't do it. So if they force you to eat pork or

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join the army and kill people, innocent people, you can't do it, you can't obey, you have to disobey. And the crime talks about people who on their judgment will say to God that, you know, I'm sorry that all these bad things I know it was people around me and I'll say back to them wasn't big enough for you to migrate. So if you really are pressed, and then making go against your religion, then last, the last thing to do is migrate and go to a place where at least you won't be forced to do things against your belief.

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Just within the privacy of

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their house, they just allowed sent in the privacy on home was very simple. We have freewill. The whole point of this exercise, so to speak of us existing is to make a choice. So we can choose to worship God or not. The Prophet Muhammad is described as a mercy to mankind he was sent as a mercy, ie his his the system that he brought is to help us be good people. And this is God's mercy. So God is doing a favor for us. So he's going to help us condition our environment so that we don't make mistakes, we don't do bad things will stop destructive behavior or mutually destructive modes behavior. But the Sharia cannot compel you to be a good person. Because if the Sharia forces you on

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gunpoint to be a good person, then there's no free will. And where is your accountability for God? What was the point of creating us in the first place we can exercise our free will. But at the same time, you can't have people go out in public and you know, through, you know, what we call, you know, unconscious influence influencing each other into bad things. So what Islam does is very simple. In the public, the show is going to help you be a better person by preventing women from being sexually exploited public preventing interest, concentration of wealth, property, all these things, in private, is between you and God and this is your test. Are you gonna Are you a hypocrite?

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Are you a true person, a man of ethics, belief, morality and faith. This is the test is in your own home. See, so this chair is meant to help us but it's not gonna compel us to be good people.

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does not leave people

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vulnerable to yourself, I suppose.

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In a way we're vulnerable from what we believe is

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that the corrupt us but as I said, we're we're humans, we're always on about many things, and trying to help us make us even vulnerable to committing the morality that denies Free Will we always have free will means you don't have a choice to do good or do bad in public in the public society, society, former corrupt your youth are going to corrupt your yourself. This is what the show is here to do is to prevent corruption coming from outside inside your house. It's your choice. And between you and God, and this is the real, I suppose the real test. So the show is hope that by making a good pass outside your house, you'll be good inside the house. But if you still insist on being a

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bad person, then must be truly bad to go in society even and do bad things in your own house. So the shadow is here to help us but it can't be a good person.

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Question.

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More questions that people will be around for five to 10 minutes and you can speak to him outside to remind you again that the feedback forms on your tables and for use of ease to fill them in and also assign the other hot snacks as well as literature.