Channel: Yasir Qadhi
Shaykh Yasir Qadhi acquaints us with the reality of the concept of Bid’ah or Innovation which is a branch of theology. What constitutes an innovation? What are the branches? Where and when does this occur, including the categories found within, along with the dangers related.
Linguistically, Bid’ah means to bring something unprecedented or that which has not been brought before. Islamically, it implies a new methodology or action in Islam. It is the opposite of Sunnah. Every Bid’ah is a misguidance and leads to Jahannam.
Bid’ah has the same categories as Islam such as Wajib, Mustahab, Mubah, Makrooh and Haram.
Categories of Bid’ah:
- Bid’ah Filiyah (doing something more) vs Bid’ah Tarqiyyah (giving something up) – examples are stated.
- Bid’ah I’tiqadiyah (Bid’ah of Aqeedah) vs Bid’ah Amaliyyah( action based Bid’ah) – illustrated via examples.
- Bid’ah Kulliyyah vs Bid’ah Juziyyah.
- Bid’ah Baseethah vs Bid’ah Murakkabah.
- Bid’ah Haqeeqiyyah (True Bid’ah) vs Bid’ah Idhaafiyyah (adding or tweaking something more to something that is already present).
Various examples citing the Hadith are illustrated and we get numerous clarifications thus, making for a very interesting and mesmerising listen.
Bismillah R Rahman r Rahim al hamdu Lillahi Rabbil alameen wa salatu salam ala Sayidina. Muhammad Anwar Ali was savage marine. I'm about. So welcome to today's special class, which I have been planning to do for the longest time, but I felt that I might as well get it done in shallow data. Today, we're going to be talking about the reality of the concept of innovation or beta in Islam. And this topic is actually an entire branch of Islamic theology, as with every science, which has failed, such as Sorrell fails to just have said, it has many branches. And actually the or the science of theology has also many branches. And one of the branches, one of the sub branches of the
science is about data is the topic of bid. What constitutes innovation, where and when does innovation occur? What isn't innovation? What is the categories of innovation? What are the dangers of innovation, the history of innovation, so you have all of these subtopics under the topic of data, which is one of the chapters in the issue of theology, and many classical books have been written on this topic, beginning from the third century of Islam.
And one of the most famous ones is by Mr. Michel to be from Andalus, called earlier to Samadhi shot to be two big volumes. He wrote it 800 years ago, 700 years ago, and it is considered to be one of the big classics. So the point being, even to introduce this topic in totality, would require at least just an introduction, at least two to three lessons of this nature. And as with all issues, there's always if they love this, one of the things about our religion, and about any science and discipline, you have all of these views. Therefore today, we literally have one lesson even half of a lesson because I want to leave time for q&a. So the goal is just to shed some very brief light,
and to get to really some of the more
controversial issues in order that we develop empathy, in order that we understand where and why there are these differing views. So let's begin with a brief primer. What is bizarre linguistically? And what is it from a technical perspective, the word bid comes from the three letter word Ba da line Bada, and this means linguistically, purely from a linguistic perspective it means to bring something unprecedented, to do what nobody before has done. And that's why of the names of Allah is Alba de Alba dear buddy, semi watty will is one of the names of Allah, but do what you will out of the Why is what the name of Allah Allah dear, because Allah brings what nobody else has brought. So
it is of the names of Allah from the same route. And l by the the one who brings unprecedented the creation of Allah is unprecedented. Also in the Quran, Allah says Alma Khun to be there, Amina Rasul, this is about the Prophet cism say or messenger of Allah ma can to be the amino Russell, I am not be dominar Russell, meaning I am not something new, as if no prophet before me has come. I am not without from the prophets, meaning I'm not there are prophets before me, and they have come with the same message. Go read history, I'm not the first there are many before me. So Allah is saying Go tell them not going to be the aminos I am not beat out from the prophets, you understand the meaning
here a bit that means something absolutely new. Now, this is the linguistic meaning of data. So of the name of azolla elevatyr. The process is being told to say I am not be there I'm International. But in the Islamic technical sense, just like the term sila means something linguistically means prayer and in actual fact could means the prayer that we do Zakah means to purify an actual field that means to purify your wealth. So what is B that from an Islamic perspective, okay? VEDA we said technical means something new from an Islamic perspective, from a shadow a perspective. Generally speaking, it implies a new methodology, a new action, a new routine, in the religion of Islam. And
from this connotation, the data becomes the opposite of sooner. So sooner and data become the opposite something is either sooner the process have told us to do it, or it is bizarre. He didn't tell us to do it and people are still doing it. So be the AI becomes the opposite of sooner and therefore in the technical sense. Generally speaking bid is used for something negative not for something positive. Okay. This is in a technical sense not in the language.
Dixon's in the technical sense, it is used for something negative. And the Hadith of the Prophet system. All mentioned this connotation that negative connotation. For example, the hadith of airbelt, even Saudi and Abu Dawood, our Prophet sallallahu wasallam said, whoever lives long amongst you will see many differences of opinion, many ft laugh, so, I command you to follow my sooner and the sooner of the rightly guided caliphs. So when you see lots of different positions, follow my Sunnah. And in the famous Hadeeth motor for highly Buhari and Muslim, this is one of the most
oft quoted Hadith when it comes to Buddha, and many of us have memorized it in Arabic and in English. We hear it all the time. The Prophet system said Hadith in Bukhari and Muslim men that emelina had Murli Semin hufa who are doing whoever introduces something into this affair of ours that does not belong to it, it shall be rejected a lower rejected the angels, people should reject it. Whoever introduces something into this matter of ours, that does not belong to it. It should be rejected of him. Okay, so this hadith is very clear that we don't want introductions, we don't want be that as to come in and hide it isn't Sahih Muslim, and we say this every time we give the hookah
the Hot Hot Tips from around the world, they typically begin their whole buzz with this phrase. And this is something that has been happening from the beginning of time. Even our Prophet system would many times begin his hood but not every time, but many times will begin with what is called goodwill. And in that hook buttered hedger. There is a phrase will highroad Howdy, howdy Muhammad Sallallahu Sallam right to the best guidance, the guidance that was sharper, ohmori. More adapted to her. The worst of all things are those that are new wakulla modesetting VEDA everything that is new in the religion, it's a bit wakulla bit atin Dada every bit is a misguidance we're kulu de la Latin,
Finn, every misguidance is going to lead to Johanna. This is a hadith in Sahih Muslim, and it is the holdover of holdovers, you begin to hook up with this. And our profit system would begin holdover of Joomla. And hold the bar of Nika, and any horrible he was giving, he would usually begin in that hamdulillah Nakamoto. Want to say no, it would begin that phrase, you hear me all the time. Usually I say this, even though sometimes you will do it. But the phrase that is important here, everything that is new is a bidder, and every bidder is a misguided and every misguidance leads to jahannam. So this is a very, very clear explicit phrase, we need to memorize and understand it. And it is also
another meaning of this as well, Hadith in Bukhari and Muslim, that the Prophet system shall recognize some people on Judgement Day, and he's going to tell them to come and drink from the held from my fountain, and the angels will come and say, No, you're not allowed to go. So they will stop these people. So the prophets also say Almighty Almighty, I'm These are my people. And the angels will say, you do not know what they added, after you are gone. You do not know the changes they did, either through bad luck. You don't know these things they did after you. And so all of these and many more, they show us the dangers of beta. And of course, theologically speaking very simple
arguments are given for the dangers a bit. Why is it so dangerous? Why are the technical term a bit are so dangerous,
simple and uncertain which appeals to all of our minds, and that is that Islam is a perfect religion, and that which is perfect is not tempered or tinkered with. Okay. leiomyoma a commode Tula Kadena? Come? What ma'am to either come near Mati worldly to look at Islam Medina, today I have finished and completed and perfected my favorites and chosen Islam. So Allah is saying that Islam is mukamal Islam is Tamam Islam is done finished. This is it. So then somebody comes along and changes, right? Microsoft has updates, Windows has updates, Macintosh has updates. Apple has updates, even even Apple has updates because they're not perfect.
But something that is perfect. You don't need version 3.1 version 4.0 version X version XP you don't need all of this, that which is perfect remains as it is. And that is why Emma Malik famously remarked famously is a famous narration of a medic, whoever innovates into Islam or beta. And he thinks that this is something good. He has accused the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam of having failed that the message very important psychological framework here you understand why if you bring somebody
Thing new. And you think this is good? And Allah likes it and the process of didn't bring it? Well, then Who do you think you are? And what did the process of him do, then he failed according to you, according to you, that means he didn't do his job, you have to come along and then redo it for him. So there are very many evidences, and you can go so many evidences from the Sahaba, taboo from the earliest scholars about this notion of change to the fundamentals of Islam is bad. And that's common sense. For most of us, by the way, do realize, for some Muslims, and particularly the progressive Muslims, they are thinking, Islam is like Microsoft, and it needs updates all the time. That is
their philosophy. And they don't have a problem with this at all. And they keep on saying, well, Islam of the past was Islam over the past. Now we need Islam of today, tomorrow, we'll need Islam of tomorrow, they don't mind the whole philosophy is different for them. And they say Allah, Allah intended the Quran for the past, no problem, they did it. Now we need to pick and choose and update and carve and whatnot. And they have their methodology for doing that. And as you know, I'm a critic of that strand of Islam. But mainstream Muslims, they always view Islam as having been perfect and whole and no need to really change. Now, a number of points. Firstly, most importantly, actually,
most importantly, from the beginning of time, pretty much even the Sahaba you can see pretty much unanimous and from that time, all of the famous scholars pretty much they said the same thing and that is, there is no bidder, in worldly matters beta is in religious matters. So customs and cultures and actions that we do have a dunia nature, there is no better it could be haram it's not be that not every Haram is better. But every bit as
not every Haram is better.
So if a new drug comes along cocaine,
somebody wants to drink or drink or eat cocaine or whatever snort cocaine, whatever is haram is not beta, it will only be without when it becomes religion. Right now, if somebody does a hot, I'm thinking it is religion, then it becomes beta. In that case, that's a separate category. But if anybody does anything of this dunya of this world, you can categorize them as halaal how long Mubarak was the hub, there is no beta in dunya way matters, there is no beta in worldly issues in cultures in a lot in actions and interactions in financial transactions. It can be held on but there's no bidder in that you understand unless somebody makes it something of the religion and
sometimes there is a gray area. And interesting example, I gave a very long Lecture A long time ago, not to you guys actually was online.
about the issue of coffee, haha, and interesting anecdote that what coffee was first introduced, believe it or not, amongst Sufi circles, it was a drink associated with Sufism in the 11th and 12th centuries, and they would drink it late at night before they did their liquor ceremonies for obvious reasons.
Stay awake. And that was when it was first introduced. And I have a whole long lecture about this. And that is why many orthodox traditionalist ruler of the 11th 12th century they considered coffee to be held on and beta.
Because the 30 because of that time, adopted coffee as a ritual, believe it or not, they made it a ritual before their
Vicar sessions that stand up and chant and whatnot, and they made it something apart. So believe it or not, we have many fatawa in the 11th century 13th century evens coffee was banned in Makkah, somebody was whipped at lashes in front of the head on because they found him drinking coffee in Makkah, right? Because they said coffee is like alcohol and that time and the point is that they considered to be bitter and many considered to be how long eventually the the the the Sufi practices moved on from that. And then people realize that coffee is not Muscat is not alcoholic or whatnot. And so by and large hamdulillah Al Hamdulillah that photo is now gone. So we all have our mocha
mocha in the city of MCI said that in Islam. So Mohawk comes from the port of Yemen, mocha, mocha, mocha coffee, right then our comes from the Arabic coffee comes from their power, which comes from the, the Ethiopian as well. So anyway, that's a long story about coffee, coffee, the point being, if you take a worldly matter and make it religious, you think Allah is going to reward you, then yes, we can talk about beta. But if you keep it in the worldly realm, it will never be called beta even if it is how long there is no beta i when it comes to technology.
Computers, engineering said science medicine, there's no bid, because you're not making it a part of the religion. Our process of them said, Whoever introduces something into what,
into this affair of ours.
He didn't say whoever changes anything, said, Whoever introduces into this affair. So if it's not in this affair, that it's not a bitter, it could be heroin, like this has not been anyway. So that's the clear point here that we need to understand where does it occur? It occurs within the realm of religion. Now, what is the definition of beta? And here's where we jump straight into the deep end. I'm skipping a lot of preliminaries because we have to get to the the gist of the topic here. Here is where we get to the problem. There is no unified agreed upon definition. And to make a long story short, from the beginning of Islam, we essentially had I'm being simplistic obviously, when only on
one lecture, we essentially had two philosophies of Buddha. Okay, two primary understandings of Buddha. And this is found in very early texts. And these two understandings have basically trickled down up until our times, okay, and they can be represented
by the two main competing strands in our times over the molded wars, let's say, okay, the same concept, and we're going to jump to the motive at the end as well, because it's as an illustrative example, as a technical example, and shallow you will see the goal of this lecture is not at all to to to rile up the anger at all. I think it's a very anyway, jumping the gun here, but that's an example here, where did these two schools
one can say that the first school essentially allows for changes and fine tunings that have evidence from other areas of Islam.
And they're willing to allow changes that are in the spirit of Islam,
but they would not allow changes that go against Islam.
And first and foremost amongst them is Imam Shafi himself and his guitar, but his famous book he wrote Kitab alone, and many, many scholars after him abdus salaam, a mama no even hedger, great, famous roadmap. Mr. Schaeffer, he himself in his guitar boom, and Mr. Michel ferry died in the third century. He is one of the great imams so it is not coming out of the blue, it's not coming from extreme muscle with his whole life. It's not coming from, you know, crazy Looney Tunes. No, this is mainstream scholarship of Islam. Mr. Michel Fairey said that linguistically beta is anything that is new, and sometimes the beta is sinful, and sometimes it is encouraged. So he made this clear
dichotomy. And he said that, when is it sinful? He said, If it contradicts the Quran and the Sunnah and the GMR, then it is wrong. But he said, if something is new, and there is higher and good in it,
and it's in conformity with the text of Islam, then this is a good beta. This is a good beta. Now, later on, I'm going to give examples, later on the famous great Adam is in the Salam he died 650 something, the basically six hundreds, if not the solemn, he has called the soltanto rula. With the title given to him, he elaborated and he said, in fact, the Buddha has the same categories as the categories of Islam wajib and mooster, hub, and MOBA, and mcru, and haraam.
And he says there could be something as beta wajib for example, the preservation of the Quran in one book,
nothing wrong with this, it is wajib to do and be the booster hub
and be the Amoeba and be the AMA crew and beta heroine. And he has long examples of each one of them. So he is saying, Look, when the Prophet system is saying, every bidder is a Balala, he is essentially saying, You and I both know he didn't mean the linguistic meaning of bitter we agree. He didn't mean the linguistic meaning of data. So what did he mean? So then Imam Shafi and those who support him, it's not just a chef or a method, please understand, you will find many of the scholars and essentially this is let's say modern Sufism by and large comes under this camp, all of the Medina modern Sufism and many that are non Sufi as well, they will come under this camp, it's not
just a mama Shafi, they will say that when the Prophet system is saying every bit is a misguidance, he means the bit either this mcru
And what I'm not the linguistic VEDA and I'll give you examples that will clarify in a while. Okay, so this is the first camp. And that camp essentially is saying that not every change even within Islam is wrong.
And you can have small changes that are found in other texts. For example, the Quran preservation, we know we're supposed to preserve Islam, we know we're supposed to help the deen. It's not as if it's coming out of the blue, it's not coming out of thin air. And of course, the famous example that's always given over and over again, is when Obama hottub gathered the people for salata, Torah, and Ramadan, and he said, because he came to the masjid one night in Ramadan, and he found everybody praying on his own separate, separate, separate separate. So he said, Why don't we all gather them behind one Imam.
And so he told obeya bin camp who was the Accra home Nikita Bella to lead the Torah. And when he saw them the next day, they were all in one Gemma rather than everybody praying separate, he smiled and he said, Nima tilbyder. To Haji he would a good bit antithesis, with our here meaning linguistically with a good bit, but
but he's not talking about that. He's talking about about that right now. So lots etc.
And he is saying near matilija to Howdy. This is a report found in Bahati and multimatic and others. What a good bit it says, By Buddha, he didn't mean the Hadith COVID Allah is an Arabic word Buddha, which means what? something new, right? So he's, you're speaking Arabic. And he says, Oh, what a great invention here. But what a great custom that has happened now, just using an Arabic word. So don't get confused between the Arabic word that is,
overall, and then the technical definition of it. Remember, Shafi will be the first to say that a an evil bidda is how long and discouraged and released to the hellfire. But he would say in his camp would say, not every change is evil. Sometimes you see something better for the manual, do it. Okay. So this is one whole philosophy, and you have a long list of odema on this side. On the stricter side, you also have greater lemma. And you have the Maliki scholar al qaddafi. You have the underdosing scholar a shell to be who wrote the two volume and material Islam. And of course, you have shareholder some event A me and evidence. Okay, these are some of the examples on the stricter
side. And who essentially said that we should not say there's anything called good bidder.
Every bidder is wrong. And any example that you give them from the classical times, they would say, Oh, this isn't better in the technical sense. So they would say the oma incident, oh, but the process and prayed a few times in his life. Okay, so this is nothing new. And we're going to get back to this point, anything else you give them, they will find a way out, and they're gonna say this isn't the technical, beta. And even taymiyah has a very, very clear definition, every matter by which Allah is worshipped, reward is expected. Yet the Sharia did not come with the Sharia does not allow, if you do something,
and you expect a lot to reward you for it. But the Sherry, I did not tell you to do it.
Then he would say this is a beta. Now the problem comes this is a good definition. But as they say, in English, the devil is in the details. What does it mean, the shady I did not come with this is again, the big thing. And that's where, in reality with my utmost respect, I've been Tamia, this issue still remains unresolved. What do you mean, the shady I did not come with because the other camp is going to say the shady I came with these concessions. In the end, they will both agree that it's a matter of the devils in the details. And it's not as if either camp doesn't want to open the door for bids, or they don't like better overall okay. And of course, we all understand it's
understood that if you're going to open the door for a bidder, so from yesterday till today, a little change will occur from today, tomorrow, another change Five days later. 10 other changes until finally from beginning to end, you don't even recognize the difference between the two. Okay, so we see this tension between these two camps. And before we get to some solid examples, very quickly, what are some of the categories of data that we should be aware of that we're going to get to the the main gist of the matter at the end?
There are many categories of data.
And I'll mention five of them. There's more than five of these you have five categories of data. The first of these categories bid out fairly versus bid Takia bid are fairly versus bid.
Bid are fairly easy to do something that was not
Done with a turkey to leave something that should be done. So feral antartic opposite, you do something new, you abandon something that is there, okay. This is one way of categorizing it and there are again, you can think of so many examples okay? For example, bit I Turkey, for example, is the the the famous Hadith inside Bahati where three men came to Arusha, right, and they asked about the Prophet systems lifestyle, and they said, Oh, this is not as much as we want. It's not as strict as we want. So one of them said, what do they say everybody should know this.
Everybody should know this famous Hadith, the three men, one of them said, I'm going to fast every single day.
And the other one said,
I will pray every single night. And the third one said, I'll give up marriage, this is fairly and archaea together. Because one group said is going to do more. One goes, I'm going to give up marriage, I will expect a lot to reward me by abandoning marriage, this is fair with Turkey. Right? I give up something, and I went to law to reward me This is dark, I do something fast every day. This is fair. So this is two examples. So two categories, okay, you can every category, I mean, sorry, every bit is either this or that. Another category, beta. And by the way, all of these five categories, they're not mutually exclusive. You can in fact, categorize the same one in all five of
them different ways, as you will see another category beta.
And beta amellia beta of Akita and beta of action. Beta of aqidah. Beta of aqeedah. From the Sunni perspective, every non Sunni group is guilty of it, either. Okay to deny other with al Qaeda to deny sooner with al Qaeda to believe in a group of imams bit arcada Okay, all of this video, this is a bit you are x you are believing in a fundamental principle. That is not in the sooner this has been either the hostage they believe in this the other day, you believe in this the more it doesn't believe in this the Jamia believe in this, that orfila believe in this so each one becomes groups of data and that's why when we say I will assume that the opposite will be done. When you say a little
bit ah You mean all of these groups combined? So this is beta to cardia. Okay, the belief data and the belief bit as we said it is found in the non Sunni groups you have to have and by the way, this is when a group denies a fundamental of Sunni Islam or affirms a fundamental not found in Sunni Islam. We're not talking about the finer details, sometimes a very small issue even within Sunni Islam, you find difference of opinion. That's okay. We're talking about the fundamentals like other like Allah's attributes like the Yama like this. So all these are fundament or Eman in
the Imams, the Imams, we don't believe in imams that are out soon somebody comes along says Oh, Islam tells us you have to believe in continuous chain of imams might assume that's a big deal. It's not a trivial so beta al Qaeda we call the beta amellia is action based beta, action based beta and action based without basically the types of betas and some extreme
groups of mystical autosol will have they will
chant do not I don't like to use Word dancing because it is disrespectful, they don't they don't intend to dance they want to experience ecstasy, ecstasy by motions okay. So, they will move in a very, very vigorous manner. And they think that this is rewarded by Allah and and this is whether the extreme groups many moderate them will do so if I don't like this We should also be careful of not generalizing one of the problems every group has, is stereotyping the other and making a big circle. There are no there are many people that are matassa with that are pious righteous, they follow the Sunnah, we should not throw the baby out with the bathwater, we should not discard all of
them. Within the soul of there are hundreds of groups, not just one, and many amongst them. They are very disapproving of those other strands. And you know, unfortunately, sometimes it's not good. But people send these WhatsApp videos of these, you know, shares doing these things. And you know, YouTube goes viral. And you know, I mean, in some ways, I guess it needs to be done, but it's not good to make fun of people. It's not good to do this. And we should and
of course the issue comes we don't want children, our children or young people to become these types of people either quote, so there's a fine line between warning against and making fun of, Okay, this is not something we approve of, but we should not mock other people we can disagree and refute and say this is not the way of the Prophet system is not the way of the Sahaba none of the harvest students circles and jumped up and down doing the good. It doesn't look it's not befitting and that's why Misha Imam Malik, Mr. Maliki will
shocked when he heard people are standing up jumping up and down doing Vickery goes he literally said Mr. Malik said are these people saying like he couldn't understand sane adult men are jumping up and down, said Are they saying are they in the insane asylum or something? is a no no they're saying he just could not understand like why would be blue people doing that so we can warn against without making fun of it. That's better. Fairly Yeah, they're doing an action is that clear? It's an audio versus fairly. Another
Amelie Amelie parents both same thing it is Osama infared are not synonyms, but no problem. But fairly and bid Amalie are the same thing. Another category of bidder is a bid kuliah versus bid Jews ear bid. aquileia is basically a principle of bid. That leads to many other issues theologies and actions with aquileia is a fundamental principle that is a bit every principle that leads to a whole host of problems. For example, beta Kalia would mean that,
for example, we don't have to follow the sooner is a major bit of equity here. It's a fundamental issue that will lead to millions of other problems. For example, to claim that my share, or my Imam must be followed. Without question. This is bit aquileia. For example, to claim that dreams are a source of Islamic law, which some groups claim if my share has a dream, it will be a source of Islamic law. This is bit aquileia. Because what this does, it opens the doors for a million other bidders. So it is like a fundamental principle that opens up the door for many other issues. And obviously, beta aquileia is basically a much bigger issue, then a bit easier to see as a minor beta.
So for example, just I mean, one can say one can say, some people have said, group Vicar.
Some have said group Vicar is a beta, just as one action. It's not changing anything else, just people coming and doing group Vicar together. And even this as we were going to come to even this is an issue of controversy is it without or is it to not be that
one can also categorize without which is a little bit of a gray area who is going to categorize but people have done this that they'll call it major and minor better. And in every case a little bit more acaba. And it's basically the equivalent of major sin versus minor sin. You know, not all sins are the same. Somebody murdering somebody else, is not the same as, for example, the claim that and this is one of my problems when we speak English and we speak to the younger generation, we don't convey to them the word how Tom is a huge spectrum. So when somebody says murder is how long then five minutes later, music is out on? Okay? Our children are teenagers literally like they don't just
and it's incorrect, therefore, to not explained to them, how long is a huge spectrum?
Not every home is at the same level. And that's why in Islam, we have major sin and minor sin. Okay, there's a more technical distinction. And
even for those who say music is a sin, it is one of the most trivial of minor sins, compared to murder, which is one of the biggest of major sins. Still, the technical term is how long, but see, so the point is within beta as well, you have major beta, and you have minor beta, meaning something is a very big deal. And something else could be utterly trivial. So not all bidders are created alike is the point. Not all bidders are the same level. And who gets to decide, again, our odema and generally speaking much as agreed upon for example, for example, to deny other is a big bidder.
To deny other I'm not going to believe in color, there's no predestination. It's not a trivial matter at all. To deny. The Sahaba are righteous people, you know, the other group does that. And they say Abubakar I will do below remember this, they say they think that this is not a trivial matter at all. You understand what I'm referring to so very big issue.
Group, Vicar. Even if you say it is a bidder, it is a very trivial thing. Okay. So within bid as there's a whole spectrum as well, so not every bidder has the same evilness attached to it. Okay, the final category, which is the one that we're going to discuss in a little bit of detail, because this is where the main controversy occurs.
Is the category called beta healthy versus beta loafie. Beta healthy versus beta, alpha, beta healthy is a true data. So how can you keep it up? Okay. And what this means is that
bringing something absolutely without precedent, there's no
No other evidence to help support this new beta. It is completely unprecedented in this area. For example, I would say,
standing up and jumping up and down when doing Vica is without a clear, there is no evidence from the Quran from the Sunnah from the Sahaba. It's baseless completely, generally speaking, bitter hockaday is pretty easy to spot. And generally speaking, most mainstream Sunni Muslims are not guilty of it architecture, generally is because it's too obvious. It's too obvious. The second category is where all of the controversy occurs. And that is beta elbow fee. from mobile from above, for you leave who to add something on, okay, to add something to offer. So it's there, you just added a little bit, you just tipped the scales, that's a little bit added something is there, you
just tweaked it, this is what it means. And this is really where the controversy occurs between these two camps of a mama Sha fairy on one side and cut off in other all these great scholars in between them, because when it comes to be the
maybe even the act is encouraged, or at least it is allowed, but what you've done is you've tweaked it just a little bit. You've added a time or you've added a place or you've added a number.
So for example,
specifying a weird
every day was filled with this. They see people call it right. Every Sufi Toyota has a wazifa with right everybody has a word. You're a shadowy or an auction Monday or Tuesday or whatever okay.
oddity whatever you're going to get a with depending on your level, you're going to go to the sheriff give back to the sheriff and the sheriff Jose here. Read this. And what is it recite por la hora three times recite ayatul kursi, seven times recite Hola, hola, de la da do this many times do decrease the speed and whatever. And generally speaking, most mainstream party has everything on that card is pure, legit. Nothing wrong with it. But what has the sheriff done?
The number and the time after fudger this is your piece of paper after author or motive that is your piece of paper. Okay? Then you come back in three months, you've done the routine, okay? Now you rise up a level, get the next paper, and so on and so forth. Now you go to the sheriff and you say, What is your evidence for this?
And he will say, What is your evidence? This is wrong?
Why can't I read it? I could see three times that you have to aftereffect. Is there anything wrong with that? Why can't I read later, hello, hello, volume 77 times who said it's wrong. It's in the Quran and Sunnah to say, the hotel, hotel or villa. And if somebody just sat down after a fight and just said la hora de la bella, and it happened to be 77. So what, right? Now you will say, oh, but you're specifying and he will say so what
was wrong? I'm not saying the process terms that I'm just saying it works for us. You see, this is beta, alpha, beta. Adolphe, you change something. And of course, this is where again, we get to the issue of the molded the classic if the love over the molded. Now we're talking about the motor to the Milad where no harm occurs once again have to be careful, don't stereotype. If there is a mullet in which there's music and dancing and women and men and we're not talking about that type of stuff. Even those Roma who allowed the modal say Oh, but this is not allowed. We're not talking about the moon Corot. We're not talking about clear any you know how long and somebody does sugar we're not
talking. We're talking about Muslims coming together and singing praise of the Prophet system, regular share or not. And talking about the Sierra and the football of the Prophet system, which if we had done it any other day, nobody would bat an eyelid.
If we had done it any other day, we say okay, good. But to do it on a particular day. And this is where again the issue comes beta evolve. You are fine tuning.
Or for example to somebody will say today's demo live for yesterday was what Whatever. I'm going to recite 100 times Salam on the Prophet Allah. Now any other day if he were to recite one or two Mashallah, Mashallah excellent for them, but if they do it today, the other school says software Allah Why are you doing this? Right? This is where again, it gets to this issue isn't a me and a shell to be another as they said this is beta and it is beta, more any lafiya is a type of beta and alpha Rafi there is a lab this setup and Noah we are Suki you know Shafi before him
They all said, No. Why would this be wrong?
As long as you do not ascribe it to the proper setup, and you recognize that this is something that you're doing because the general Shetty allows this thing.
The general Shetty allows dekor It allows not for the profit. So sort of
any, you know, share out of the Profit System, it allows for, it allows sadhaka It allows and you come along and you specify time, place quantity, what not, and you think it is working for you. And they have many evidences for this as well. It's not as if it's coming out of the blue, and I'll give you some of them so we get an idea where they're coming from,
for example, how this isn't without intermediate madness, ie, on the process. And then one day I was reading Salah, and he stood up silent prayer, and he stood up in record and he said, semi Allahu leemon hamidah which translates as Allah, here's the one who praises him.
A Sahabi right then in there, composed a vicar Insider.
Right? And he said robina helical hamdu Hamdan kathira, unplayable Mubarak and Fie mill a semi why 2 million or 2 million will Amma shoot the machine back? He made a beautiful response. After the Salah, finished the process and said, Who is the one who said it? The man was quite Oh, did I do something wrong said Who is the one who said it for by Allah he did something good. So the man said it was an IRS with a law. He said, Well, I saw 30 angels, you know, racing to Allah to see who would be the first to give this phrase. Now what is the point that is being said here? The Sahabi from his own insula
gave a ticker
and the process and didn't say How dare you make your own Vicar.
He allowed him to do it. Also, the famous Hadith of
the hush hush and Elena Bilal, in general. I heard your hush hush and Eileen and Jen Wright said why, what do you do? What did the law say guys?
To Raka after every little boy. Okay, where do you get this from?
Where do you get this from?
on his own,
on his own.
There is no Hadith that says when you do to Raka sorry, when you do will do pray to Dhaka. But is it wrong to pray to Dhaka? No. So Bella said, you know what I want to do today every time I Doodle, right? The process of didn't say How dare you because praying to the gods is a part of Islam. And to fine tune specify. The other group says the other group says it's allowed. Okay.
The issue of Habib in an era when he was going to be executed outside of Makkah, famous story we talked about in the Sierra, or the Machu Picchu and kept him captured him. And he was to be executed. He said, Okay, if you're going to execute me, I want to pray to Dakar before you execute me. And it became the sooner
that, you know, in this culture before you executed, you're given a seven course meal and our culture before you executed, you're told pray to Dhaka because the difference by the way, but anyway, who's the one who started the praying have to Dhaka it's a sin in our Sharia, whether you're executed justly or unjustly? If a volume tyrant is going to execute you, and you have the opportunity to pray to Allah?
May Allah protect us from ever having to avail ourselves to that. And if you're even being executed justly, like the government, Islamic government catches you and you're executed. But even then, now, where did you get this from? Nowhere. But is there anything wrong to pray to the car? See, here's we're talking about right.
In terms of the hadith of Sai Bahati as well, that Sahabi was passing through, and one of the the chieftains of the tribe.
He said, I have a son who is sick, or has any mercy has gin possession, whatever. So once I have he said, Oh, I will read rocky over him. But on condition you give me 30 sheep long story because they initially denied any food and access. So that that was nasty of them to deny, then they came back so well, is there any Rockley amongst you, and the tribe was pagan and the Muslims origin Muslims, so one of them said, I will, but if you want me to come, I'm going to charge you 30 sheep, like because you were so nasty to me like that. So he recited Surah Al Fatiha over the child and the child was cured. And by the way, these are the evidences of gene possession. So the child was cured
and the tribe convert to Islam so they came back to the Prophet system.
The profitsystem said, One Ma, you Rica and neurochir. Who told you that fact itself is a Rokia?
The Sahabi was not told that out of the whole Koran Fatiha is one of the more powerful rookies. Now by the way, this is a very separate topic. I did the gin class here, those of you that attended all of the,
the the exocyst,
the Rockies, they have their specific ayat that they have learned to works for the gin. It's not in the Quran and Sunnah. Meaning
my teacher, you know, I told you that I studied Rokia I studied under one of the Rockies of Medina. not that interesting. Medina don't have a class called exorcism and Medina, you didn't take notes and the teachers absent flanger Oh, no, there's no such thing like that. I studied under Rocky and we went over some stuff. So, you know, he told me his philosophy about what to recite sort of soft fat and this and not teaching me, where did he get it from?
Is it in a hadith? It's experience.
It's experience that is working for that person and recite this particular idea of this particular surah. So I know some of them I don't want to teach you any of this stuff. I mean, it's there you like this, I say three times. This is a 11 times none of them are gonna say it goes back to the process, but it works for them.
Right? And they'll say well, why not? If it works, so here the process of saying how did you know it was a rookie Who taught you that out of the whole Quran Fatah. Now we know from that Hadith and I know when I ever have to do me, Allah protect me from doing I don't like doing but if some once every Blue Moon, nobody in Memphis, I don't do it, by the way. But if ever it happens, definitely factor as one of the things I recite. I know that from the Hadith, but the bulk of the rest of the stuff I recite is not in the Hadith. You understand what I'm trying to say here, right? The fact that the Sahabi just chose something. And the President says, where'd you where'd you get this from?
Who told you that that is a utopia to do also the famous Hadith and Mohali as well, where the Sahabi would Resize to attend a class and every single guy said this many times and the you know, decided from me, right? Who told him that is allowed to recite the class, every single record, he did it, because he wanted to do it in every single record, he would recite the class, right? He's doing it. And when the processor hears, He doesn't say How dare you. I don't do that.
Again, don't misunderstand that those that came late. I'm talking about the two philosophies of Buddha and you have the stricter shell to be even Tamia and you have the laxer qaddafi
ism now the selama Shafi, so these are competing mazahub on VEDA at this stage, I'm not making any type of jihad, I'm just explaining what is what so that you understand. So you have this issue of the Sahabi reciting factor now, the issue of Omar Antara we go back to it. Why? Because both groups use this evidence, and both groups interpreted to suit suit to their particular frames. As for the stricter camp, they say, oh, but it's very clear that armodafinil hot dog is not doing anything new. Because the profitsystem did
that or we're in his lifetime.
And as for the other camp, they say no, you're missing the point. The Prophet system did not command or are we?
It just so happened that he was praying, and the people behind him decided to join. He never once there's no Hadith about combining the people under thought you're having a group coming that never adjust happened accidentally. And that's why when a workers time, nobody did it. And half of the time nobody did it. And also the fact that you're going to announce we are going to have that are we after Asia, which was began. That is not something that was ever done at the time of the Prophet some there's no command to pray in congregation. It just happened spontaneously. And so Omar rhodiola one really is from the perspective of the other camp introducing fine tuning without a lot
of fear. Is there anything wrong with the herd? You know, is there anything wrong with enough and called gracious Allah? No. So then might as well fine tune after Asia Nomad nights of Ramadan and call the tarawih. You see this point here? both camps interpret the Roma incident according to their visions and their paradigm. Also, we have the issue of
also we have the issue of Earth man rhodiola one adding the sun at the event on Joomla. Two events on Joomla which is not the majority position in the Muslim world. And there's nothing wrong with that even though we don't do it here. No problem. But where did the second edition come from?
Earth man wrote the law one he looked at the fact that the merchants need some time to prepare, you know, and the goal of the event is to call people to the masjid. Okay, and because the merchants are going to take time
To wrap up and maybe even take a shower, what not, you know what it makes sense to add another event a little bit before the first one so that they can close shop and get their way to the masjid? What is he doing here? He is doing something the process of did not do. A bunker did not do or did not do. Now,
here's the point, the second cam says that's exactly what we're trying to say. The goals of the [???]tier are meant, what is the purpose of the event? Shut shop and get to the masjid. If the first time is not doing its job. And Omar Oh, sorry, man says you know what, we need one for these guys, then what's the problem? That's what the second camp will say? What is the problem with the second event, let them do it. Because the goal of the [???]tier is not as if he said we're going to ring a bell, which would be better.
He's using something from the shediac and fine tuning within the goals of the shediac. And they go back to the Hadeeth. Man editor, fee emelina had my laser mean who whoever introduces into this affairs, that which has nothing to do with it. And then they say, and beta adelphia has things to do with it is within the tradition is not outside the tradition. So no doubt there's a whole spectrum over here. And we're getting almost to the end here. I want to be very, very frank,
in my estimation, this issue of beta adelphia. And without maraca
with a bit of a hockey Thea sorry, but I have to say in the dialogue here, this issue, in my humble opinion, is a genuine legitimate issue of if they laugh in our own. And we should therefore tolerate the other position and respected as a legitimate position, even if we hold one position. Okay, this has been my view since I have come to MIT, which is why I have never made a big deal of the molad never, it's not something that I consider to be a big deal whatsoever, if it is done properly. If it is done properly, and Alhamdulillah the majority of molds in the world are done properly that where there is there is the kicker and you know, but if there is jumping up and down and you think the
process is common, you keep a chair empty for him. This is this is we need to just stop that, you know, that's not enough. So we don't make it a big deal. Even if I personally am obviously sympathetic to event amias for one simple reason. The closer you are to original, the better it is, you know, it's just safer to be on the more
conservative side, because today you're going to do one change tomorrow, another and another. And then by the time you get to the end 20 generations later, you will not recognize the final product. And what we need to do or we need to check out here is that even amongst the Sahaba, we have some of these tensions beginning. And the classic example is the issue of the compilation of the most half the compilation or even before this, the choosing of a hollywell in the time that both of these issues the compilation the most have when Abubakar rhodiola one was approached by Omar to compiled the most of what did Abu Bakar say.
This is essentially the more conservative camp. How can I do what the process of didn't do? And Omar is basically the more open minded in this case, like look, it's not against, it's not wrong. Now, and again, the same can be said about earthmen mandating one must have an exam all the other muscle have have to be destroyed. You have to follow my most have, right? And even Masaru didn't like that because because I heard the Quran I have mine why did why did why do I need to follow you I accepted Islam before you and etc, etc. Right? He had his his viewpoint in that regard. Also, I mean, we can give you so many examples. The development of the most half itself the script of the most have the
calligraphy of the most have the dots, Mr. Malik did not like to put dots on the Quran. He said it's better. Can you believe that? Mr. Malik said we should keep the Quran the way it was. Now I challenge anybody in this room to try to read a quote on without dots into skill and not let's see, will lie. I struggle. I have manuscripts on file and whatnot that don't have it. Right. It takes me a few minutes. I'm not exaggerating at least a minute. I have to sit and see what is this? Even I and I am humbled as somebody who knows the Quran very well. It's difficult for me. Mr. Medic said it's bitter. who followed him emetics for two How's that possible? It's not possible to keep that
level of purity, right? said this is a bit odd that you're going to change the Quran. I don't think anything should be changed from the Quran. And we see where he's coming from. But now look at the Quran. Beautiful calligraphy decorated all of the and who says anything about it. We like it. We like it.
But many Imam Ahmed would hate the surah of the Quran and he the the geometric patterns he would not like this at all. So this is also a bit out. Okay we understand that early generation they they they are puritanical and good for them, but me and you, it helps us we to read the Quran to respect the Koran, no problem right so as well as well deciding the halifa the fact that Abu Bakr Siddiq nominated Omar
and realize in Islam,
siesta is a part of Islam. And the governance is a part of Islam. And the mechanism of governing and who to decide the next candidate the process of didn't leave one person, he didn't say Abu Bakar. And Omar said, I'm going to so I will, because I'm going to choose Omar and Omar therefore said, If I don't choose, I have the process that before me. And if I choose Obama before me who chose I don't know which one to do, because I'll choose six of you. Also, it's something that came different. Now one and one can also say that
there are many aspects that are kinda sort of in this gray area, they are Islamic, yet not quite Islamic. They are within Islam, yet not quite outside of Islam, and people have changed them. For example, how do we teach Islam? We how do we teach yourself professionally, we divided into courses, that Hadith al Qaeda, did any Sahabi have a dose of al Qaeda on Tuesday, and a dose of film on Monday? Didn't work that way. Right? There is a system there's a level you begin low level work your way, you know, higher up and the madrasa system as well. I mean, all of this is something that the Sahaba did not do. And within the tabular, interpret tabular and all of this began, in fact, even
the writing of the books, a shill initially it was not an everybody had everything up here. Everybody had everything up here. That's why the first had the the book, it took 170 years in mathematics mortar. That's why it took people didn't like it. They didn't want knowledge to be in the books that you just go buy something. They wanted you to study man on men, and even then you have to get one on one anyway, that's besides the point is the whole system of teaching Islam, where did it come from? Now, in response to this, the the structure and method is gonna say, oh, but this isn't these are all not examples of it. Ah, they're going to use the technical term of sudfeld,
which we don't have time today, nor is this the audience is called Muslim, Hamada. Salah is an issue of a solid fake where there's generic benefit for the people. And I don't want to get into the technicalities, but because you know, some people watch online and they have knowledge and whatnot. I will say for the record,
the bid Luffy. And the Muslim Hamada Salah, there is an overlap between the two and it is a gray area in between, there is no clear distinction between the two. So the issue of compiling the most half, this group will say oh, that's not better. That's Muslim masala, they're just going to get it out. But the point is, the other camp says it is a bit in its own way. So linguistic bizarre, they expected a lot to reward them for compiling the most half. It is a part of the religion. It is something that is done for Islam. And they didn't find anything wrong with that, and they say, then you can make many other issues. And if you look at the oma Subhana Allah, this is the problematic
issue, even most of the conservative school.
They have adopted practices that were not found in the earliest of generations, and they consider it to be a part of Islam. And I don't have a problem with that. I don't have a problem with that. For example,
the issue of finishing the Quran insalata Torah, we even Omar did not start that, by the way to finish the Quran in Torah we this is the norm across the globe. The whole issue of arrabiata processing did not legislate it. This is very clear he did not legislate. It's a tacit approval. Omar is the one who legislated but even that Okay, how about even in the haramain everywhere from Fatiha to Nast, you're going to finish on the last day, and you're expected to recite within the Torah way. And people expect a lot to reward them for attending that Quranic recitation. And then another bit of fear, and it is a bit of a fear but I don't consider it to be a problem at all.
Technically, it is a bit of a fear and I don't have any problem with it. It is it is really nice to have in my opinion. The huttenlocher on the other takes place in taraweeh Isola even in the house, I mean, what is the evidence from the Quran and Sunnah when did the process of ever do a hotter Koran and then have a long day?
Where did it's a rich religious ritual that is taking place. It is a ritual and is taking place within the salah and it has become an expected ritual which is why if you go to
muck on the Hutton Koran. May Allah help you to get out when you're done like two hours minimum to get out, right? Three and a half million people come you know more than hedge they come from cotton Quran it's a ritual How is it not a ritual and the process of never did none of the Sahaba did it none of the Tabby don't ever did it. And it's something that you expect a lot to reward you it has become a special holy night, people traveled to go and attended. And there is a special ritual that was not done in early Islam. And I don't have a problem with it. Right, by the way, and we'll get to this point.
A very small strand within the conservatives, yes, they are going to be fair to their also. And they will say all of this is bitter, bitter, bitter, bitter, and they will say it and even the average was like come on, that's a bitter. So here's the point there is a spectrum in this and it's a gray area. It's a gray area. And the issue comes as well for example reciting Quran for the deceased. I'm not talking about Koran honey on the 14th I'm just saying, you miss your grandfather, your mother, your father, you said let me just recite surah Yaseen and bless them. The vast majority of the scholars allowed this even Tamia allowed even basil allowed this even the more hardcore scholars
they allowed it
quote me one Hadith where the process of allowed Quran for the dead you won't find it quote me one asset from a Sahabi where he said recite Quran further you will not find it, but they thought you know, if Zakah is Allah, I mean sadaqa is allowed disallowed, then why not Koran as well. So they allow some, some fine tuning. They didn't say this to be that big of a deal. Another common issue which even even Tamia allowed is the mousepad dispute
the dispute issue, right? Are these days Mashallah the iPhone clicker? The itis behalf you can I'm not joking, there's itis beer, you haven't stopped for the last little bit of stuff with
the issue of having 33 stones and just go over 100
or Mashallah 1000 Mashallah.
Pretty much the whole oma has accepted it, no big deal, like I said, even been Tamia said, okay, it's better to do on your fingers, but it's not a big deal to do it on the spirit stones. It's not a problem to do, you know, like that. And so many other, you know, issues you find as well. And again, the issue of the moded, for example, and either half of the bin hedger is very frank, it's a very beautiful photo of even hatchet. He goes, look, in a technical sense, of course, it's a bit odd. He says this has been hijacked. In a technical sense, it's a bit of the process of didn't do it. The Sahaba didn't do it. But if on that day, people come together, give some charity, recite the photo
of the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam they do they could, then it has been a hustler. What's wrong with that? What is wrong, this event Hajj and I'm quoting him, What is wrong with reviving the love of the processor in the hearts of the people if it is done in a good manner? You understand? Going back to that issue of beta, what category and philosophy you come under? Right. And the cap that allows it says, You know what, we'll even find you some precedents. What is that precedence? They said, the issue of the process of saying I was born on a Monday, so I want to fast to a lot on that day. The other campuses are but that's faster on a Monday, and the other campuses? No, you're
missing the point. He said he wanted to commemorate the day he was born.
That is the awesome to commemorate the day he was born. So we will fast on Mondays. And if we also do something on the day he was born. Why would that be wrong, though the other camp is gonna say that, and they will also say, the issue of Ashura when they were celebrating the saving of Musa and the President said, Oh, that's why you're doing it. And that case, we have more right to be happy for more sad than you, and they can't the other campuses. The point is, the process is allowing, celebrating on the day of a victory.
And the question arises, how far do you go in this in this regard? So let me ask you a question. When
the month of Ramadan is around the corner, do you not expect me to give holebas and gurus about Ramadan?
Of course you do. Did the process of ever have a long debate about Ramadan three weeks before preparing them spiritually mentally? As far as we know he didn't? Did the Sahaba do that? No, he didn't. One is
and the hijiri calendar is going to change. Once in a while I'll give a hoot about the hydro.
The importance of In fact, I've done this in MIT at least twice. I've done this last eight years.
I'll give a hoot about the hydro. And I'll remind you of the importance of the digital right before the hedgerow The date is going to change. I give you the hydro about the Hutterites
in Ramadan, we talk about birder. We talk about Angel route, we talk about this and that. If somebody were to come along and on the 12th, talk about the prophecies, you understand the philosophy is very similar, if not exactly the same.
You see, this is really where both of these camps are, are coming from how extreme Do you go really in this in this regard? And that that is really the issue. And I mean, just on a personal anecdote, yesterday, which was supposed to be the 12. And obviously, in my opinion, Arsalan, we don't know when the process was born, the eighth or the 10th of the 12, or three opinions offline. But that's besides the point. I mean, the majority thinks that well, let them think it is not a big deal. I posted on Facebook, just some generic post about the blessings of the Prophet system, not one peep or squeak about molad Are they good? Or is that nothing? Just a generic post about
the blessings of the process? And I'm and we have to love him and this and that. Subhana Allah read the comments any other day, but today, this is the comment. Okay, brother today, you have to say the motive is a bitter, I didn't mention anything in the post. So you see, what happens is a counter reaction, right, which we're all aware of, which honestly irritates many people, including myself. It's an extremist counter reaction, where you can't even speak generically without being shut down. And that is also a problem here. And the fact of the matter is within the conservative camp, there's nothing wrong with because and I myself might ally with this camp more. So I'm not denigrating them,
I myself, feel comfortable with him and Damien's position. But my point is, even even Tamia was very open minded about this issue. And he was not harsh about the molded, read what he has written. And he says very amazingly, he says,
he thinks is the better, he thinks we should not be done. And then he says, even though in all likelihood the majority of people who celebrate it, they will get reward from Allah for their good nia.
This is even Tamia writing this even Tamia writes, I have no doubt that the majority of people that are doing it will be rewarded. Because their Nia is good. They want to show respect to the Prophet system. But I just don't like it. This is my opinion. 110 This is me. There's no harshness, no ranting and raving, no battle, intellectual battle, nothing. Just as Look, I don't like it shouldn't be done. But I know that most of the people who do it alone will reward them for it. And you know, I I sympathize with this. Because like I said, on the one hand, if you open the door, then change, change, change change. On the other hand, it is a bit of a gray area, because I'm still going to
give you a good buzz about Ramadan before Ramadan. And I'm still going to talk about, you know, the hidden or before the hidden, I'm still going to, you know, talk about things when they need to be discussed. So if somebody were to do the same about the Sierra and the molad.
Why should that be problematic? Another problem comes when it goes beyond, as we said, What is allowed in Islam. And we should also point out there is this ultra extremist faction, which is faithful to its version of of, you know, beta, and because of this, they pronounce things to be bizarre, that even the most average innocent Muslim will scratch their head and say, You must be joking, but they are faithful to the literalist definition. So for example, they will say that, and I know teachers who say this of mine, to have Quranic recitation gatherings is a bit odd to have the party recite the Quran like other bosses would and all the karate, everybody's saying blah, blah,
Mashallah, what is Allah Allah, I left it ugly, this is bitter, because the Sahaba never did it, never. And it's true. They never set up their boss's style, everybody's doing this and that and it becomes a ritual and the remaining firm in that regard. And they will say that having these lines and so forth is better. Because the sooner is that the Imam should visually check
should visually check like the Prophet system would walk between the so forth and check the software. So it's good to have this. Right. They would say that it's better to give the other than inside the masjid.
On this microphone is a bitter, you have to give the other than outside the masjid as was the sooner
right and I know masajid even in North America, I've seen with my own eyes following that strict and I mentioned this a strict version of Islam. So they were literally opened the door walk outside with the microphone. Ironically, 50 years ago group said it's better to use the microphone.
I'm not exaggerating. I'm not exaggerating.
Some of you laugh at this right groups in Nigeria, and in India, Pakistan, it's not just naturally thing in Buxton as well, you know, not today still,
they still think is better.
I know that in the 60s, I know, for a fact, I've done my research in this regard.
That Rama, in the 40s and 50s, in Nigeria, and in the 60s, in parks in India, I know, because I've done this research might be other places. But in these two lines, they said, it is a bit odd
to use the microphone, and Salah is Barton,
because you have to hear the human voice, not the electric voice. So they would not allow that and solder on the microphone.
And you know what, from their perspective,
we can see, they are remaining firm, so much. So again, the same chef, I mentioned May Allah raised his ranks, he was a great item in his own way, I don't have to agree with everything. He says he would say the famous footwear that he said that the member of the hot leave has to be exactly three steps. If it's more or less bitter,
because from his perspective, the member is what the hottie stands on, which is Islam.
And so whatever the process of them did to change that bit, it lufia is going to become better. So he would say it's a bit odd to have four or two or one or has to be exactly three. Now, to what level Do you take it? So then why don't we construct the same exact structure that existed? Why have only three? Why are you stopping at three? How come you don't take the same utensils and have that thing as well? Right? How about the masjid structure itself? And so how much how much you're going to go in this regard. So the bottom line,
realize that this issue of fine tuning and bid is lafiya. It's a gray area, and something that has precedence in Islam. But you come and you kind of fine tune it, you give it some extra what not? Some scholars said that it is permissible for the margin, but this is not the average Muslim is somebody who has done something research and whatnot, it is permissible, and it is they would call it a good beta. And they say it is allowed this is not the wrong without that they do. And other groups of scholars say no, we really should be more conservative here. And I say even those that are conservative, within their ranks, you will find even a spectrum. And many of them will be doing
things that the set of themselves did not do. And that's fine. I don't see a problem with this and for me, to err on the side of caution is better. And we should try to keep pure as much as possible. But when it comes to these Bidadi lafiya issues which is not pure besides a trivial bidder, we should be generous spirited, we should realize that even if we think that it is a beta, there are many Rola who do not think so and there are great aroma. And in the end of the day, Allah azza wa jal will reward and punish people based upon their nia.
And if a person is following the great Island, Andy wood, can you see him and no, we said it's Mr. hub, or it's soon. He said it's a bit almost a habit of the molded right, the Mamba suit. He said this a moment. Even hedger said this, you know, okay, you can quote even Tamia till you're blue in the face and I'll agree with you. What are you going to do with the other llama? What they still exist, and they have that position. So accept and respect and tolerate in my whole life. I have never celebrated a molded I don't need to enhance the design. I don't see the need the love of the process. It should be every single day. And I feel this and then shall I hope I practice it. But I
understand for some people.
Their Eman is renewed. I understand for certain groups of people. They hardly come to the masjid and they'll come on this day. So why should I become somebody who makes this petty issue such a big one creating fitna and facade and whatnot. That's their business as long as clear how ROM does not occur, then we will say no to that want to conclude with a very, very, very interesting verse, which would give us food for thought. And it is ensuited Hadid
the ending of sorbitol Hadid where a restaurant Allah mentions he served Imodium and that people came after him who were righteous and they believed in him. And then Allah mentions so listen to this word baniya tiny bit at that ruha Mark Abner highly him in the Hollywood Hilda wha wha ha famara iottie ha Tina Latina woman whom are your homeboy Kathy Roman who possible? This is a very deep verse. Understand it. Allah is talking about the
Good followers of Jesus, okay? The righteous followers. Allah says the monasticism urbania. What is monasticism? To cut off from society? Go live in a cave and worship, don't get married, don't have kids don't you know, monks, monks. And to this day there are monks, you know, I met somebody in Memphis at a interfaith dinner, young man, 22 years, last year, two years ago. And he was really excited, because he was going to join an order. here in Oregon, I think in America, one order only exists like this, where they take a vow of silence for life.
I was shocked, shocked. Well, like, he was excited. He was going to enter in two or three weeks, and for the rest of his life, he wouldn't be speaking.
And so he was chatting away eagerly. last few weeks of his life, you can chat, you know.
And small group, they farm they, if they have to communicate, they will write to each other, but they don't say anything. Except hymns. That's all they can say. Or no communication. This is Rob baniya. extreme version. Allah says, What urbania this monasticism evil turned out to
this is the only time in the Koran that Allah uses the word bizarre the way that we just met EBITDA. This is their better marketer. Now Harley, I didn't tell them to do that. A lot did not tell them to do that. Right. But then Allah says elliptica, which hinda. But they did one in LA. I said, watch another strong one in LA.
But they did it for the pleasure of Allah. Notice here, this is a very, very profound verse, If you follow the whole lecture, this verse, you will understand my philosophy. Allah is saying, I didn't tell them to do that. But they did it for the pleasure of Allah.
He criticizes, then he praises.
That's not something from me. But I know they did it for me.
And then Allah says Another criticism after that, but they didn't live up to their own standards.
Look at the church. Enough said, you get the point. You get the point. I don't need to elaborate right? They didn't live up to their own standards. Then Allah says, As for those who did good, we shall give them the reward. You know, those people for five 600 years before they come into the process of them, they spend their lives worshipping Allah, Allah saying, I didn't tell them to do that. But I know they did it for me. And those that lived up to it, I would reward them.
But many of them are faster. What is this verse tell us? Sometimes, sometimes, some people in their extreme love, do things they shouldn't be doing. They shouldn't do it. And if we have knowledge and wisdom, we should encourage them not to do it. But if they keep on doing it, and they believe in a law and they're doing good deeds, Allah will look at that Nia and Allah might even reward them as they've been Tamia said that a lower reward them on their good nia. So keep things in perspective, and be academic will need to be and be sympathetic and empathetic when needs to be. The bottom line is that there's no doubt that a clear bidder that contradicts the Quran and Sunnah, that introduces,
and also a foundation that is not here. This is something we should not tolerate at all, we should all unite against that. But these types of Bidadi lafiya that we talked about, and I gave all of these examples, we should realize that this is an area that the home itself has different over, follow your position, I have mine and respect and tolerate the other position. inshallah, with that, we have some time for q&a. So Bismillah Bismillah.
the the issue of etbr comes here,
a following the sooner and as we said, Yes, this is the default of following the sooner should be done. But realize from the perspective of the shaft, very definition, this is following, the sooner the process of allowed the leeway. We gave so many examples from the Sahaba themselves. So they would say there is an awesome that is allowing this fine tuning. That's the point. You understand there's a whole paradigm shift here. For you and me maybe the way we have been raised the last 10 1520 years. We want an explicit specific evidence for this one issue. And if we don't find it, we shut the door and throw it out the window. And the other campus saying no, you don't need an
explicit specific evidence. As long as there's a generic evidence
Do you see the difference of philosophy? And as I pointed out, even within our own school and camp, there are a number of practices that are now prevalent, and there is no explicit evidence for that's what I want you to think about. Okay? sisters, nothing back to the brothers was in it.
institutionalize that because people have have a demand to some degree that
you make other people who say you don't want to do it,
don't do it you will not get the reward and get the set of plans that are there like Pakistan or India.
Excellent point, and that is institutionalizing. Without preaching these types of things, making it the norm. All of these things is why it is better to err on the side of caution. That's why I am sympathetic definitely to the more cautious side, because you keep on adding these bits of lafiya. And the final result is unrecognizable from the first one. So yes, I am sympathetic to it. Right. So the group Vicar, or the day after the Salah, which is the norm across our countries, you know, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, after the Salaam, there's a group do everybody does it? Right. It's something that is done in Tokyo, right there is group liquor. Right? Everybody does it. And again,
the other group says this is better. And they will say What do you mean? It's better than I thought that I think 33 times of Atilla 32 times it's straight from this one, right? And the responses, but the process of the Sahaba did it and they didn't do it in group and the other responses. So what if they didn't do it in a group? It's not a big deal to do it in a group, right? It's back and forth. And then the issue comes, for example. And so here's the point. I agree with you. They read the read the etuc pirot. Right. There, he took the route that we all give at the convention in the stadium. Many of the conservatives say it is better to do etuc Birotte in one voice.
Now, I challenge you to get 10,000 people in a stadium chanting takbeer and they don't unify themselves automatically.
Impossible, you try to be against the crowd. Okay, so one person when they started low, but you started along with let's see what happens
fitful rotten, you just go with the crowd number one, number two, honestly, who amongst us can deny the field that we get? Not that the shady as based on the bus? You didn't even think about this? Even though the other camp many other must say it is bizarre, and will lie upon their lawsuit? It is? Because the same group that says the Turkish ticket is better? How come are you this dicker brother, I should be allowed them, you see what I'm saying here is the same as soul. But the same group that says those is better, they will generally speaking in the domain, they have the group there, you know, I'm saying so even that group that considered and I don't want to be too
dismissive, even that group that considers itself to be following the setup, and so on and so on and whatnot, in the end of the day, you find within their ranks, rituals and habits, that really is not found in the earliest of times. And my point is, so what, but officer point is very valid, to what level because you can keep on adding and changing and as I said, you know, you go to a hardcore, whatever Majid you know, and from beginning to end, like what is going on here? You know, I barely recognize anything other than the fact that everything is this and they cannot allow this and that's like you just feel out of place. So to what end and that's why I said we should be reasonable and
more on this side than that one. Okay. Actually, you had a pretty good, good, good.
The profitsystem lead and in FSR, this one 200 right now we just did it. In the in the taraweeh.
People just prayed behind him, this has nothing to
do he didn't do it at the gym. And number one, number two, the whole issue of salata does be is it authentic or not, is a big controversy. Some urla might say the Hadith is not authentic and others is authentic. So he even if he did it, even if he did it, how do you how do you have a bus reported in hacking and design? Oh, there's even if he did it, it was his own. Or he told us to do it. He did not lead people in it.
The whole route was done in fourth. He didn't lead special code. Yeah.
In Mirage, it would also be enough in Salah It will also be enough for touriga but again, it would be Yeah, it was enough.
Allah, different time a different place in different people but yeah, it is an offence Allah. So he did but the point is he did the dufus Allah.
It is narrated that he led navasota. Okay, yes in the back cord.
So again, this issue comes of how much strict Do you want to be? And the issue of teaching children we should always be more lacks. Mr. Malik said, I don't want dots and dish kill in the Quran. But then he said, except for the Quran for the young children, they need to learn.
Listen, Mr. Malik said this, like I understand for the kids, they need to do this. I'll follow the spirit of Mr. Malik will lie here, it's a problem. If adults want to build the Kaabah recolored replica of the cabinet. That's definitely a problem. And I say something is seriously wrong there. But for the children to do it, to get a sense of what it is nobody, not even you know, and, you know, my own sons and daughters participated in the PVS thing. I didn't expect them to actually think this is nobody, even the five year old knows, we're making a replica. And they just get excited about the real thing, not to this year. So I don't see any problem in this whatsoever. Not
at all. Sharla is gorgeous.
point that you walk a fine line to one great following,
all inclusive, in a given concession, taking your word out of context and
walking in a very fine line. Thank you for reminding me.
I don't think is going to be taken out of context. I am very clear. And I have said this explicitly on Facebook and on my videos. And even in my articles. I have felt held this position really for the last
almost 10 years, definitely not 15 years ago, definitely not but definitely almost decade and that is that the issue of the moded is not one that we should make a big controversy over. I don't celebrate it. I've never felt the need to celebrate it honestly will lie I've never felt an emptiness about the moment I don't feel the need hamdulillah insha Allah the love of the process, and we need to revive it every day and whatnot, I don't feel the need. But if it is done in a decorum of Islam,
then I don't consider this to be a major problem.
Really, I don't if it is done with proper Vicar now when it would it be problematic when either far heisha such as sometimes you have many women intermingling in the same place jumping up and down is almost like a stuffed full of law. And it does happen on the street level. In some places Street, I would say inshallah no Masjid does just inshallah, no matter what happens in the masjid inshallah is not the, but on the streets, celebrations in Buxton, in Birmingham, and some places, you get all of the crowds in their happiness. And when you have young men or women together, what's going to happen is going to happen. No chef, even of that party is gonna say that's good, right? So you have that
problem. And then you have the other problem that sometimes there's a theology, exaggeration, invoking the prophecies, Adam, saying that he has arrived to our gathering, leaving a space open for him, you know, this is now a bit out of another nature, where we say that's a problem. It's a theological problem. But if people have generic poems, and they talk about the formatting of the profits are certain, I mean, if we have done it any other day, nobody bats an eyelid. But just to draw on this day people become anti will light I find this a problematic thing, you know, and it's literally as if you're becoming sofala anti the blessings of the process of them. And I demonstrated
with this Facebook post that some people literally got irritated will lie I didn't even mention the moulded nothing. Just I quoted Evan Tamia just to make sure my shoulder subotica la familia quoted Evan Tamia quarter of nakaya quarter some of the setup said this is the blessings of the Prophet system. We have to love him. That was 010 right have been the basis a minute Mr. Simple generic post and will lie people got irritated that think the problem of this exaggeration creates a mindset. That is a problem. That's what I'm saying. It's a problem. That's why I want us to be more open minded. Even if we hold our positions. I still say technically speaking salary, the Brotherhood
motive is a bit alike. Even hedger said, whether it's with our hustler or not. It's a bit of a
He said this, I agree with it. I don't see the need for it. But it's not at all an evil beta. Even if it is a beta, it's very trivial one very trivial one, we should not make a big deal out of it. And if people are doing it, we should tell them. And I've said to people that are doing this, make sure that you follow the sooner in that data. You get my point here. When you do what you're doing, make sure you keep it legit. IBM has said this to one of the chef's of the other guys, like if you're gonna do it, make sure you follow the sooner on that day. Don't go beyond in your exaggeration, and I think this is a fair middle ground. So I don't think I can be misinterpreted I
am pretty clear. And in my clearness, I have earned enough enemies on both sides. So no big deal if that is the reality hamdullah shallow with this, we conclude our topic for today and inshallah we'll see you guys next week.