Lives Of The Sahaba 35 – Ali Ibn Abu Talib – PT 06

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As we delve into the talk, Shaykh YAsir Qadhi makes us acquainted with the circumstances leading to this battle, the incidents that transpire and what was the aftermath of this battle.

The Battle of Siffin took place between Ali RA, the fourth of the Rightly Guided Caliphs, and Muawiyah bin Abu Sufyan RA, the governor of Damascus, who opposed the caliphate of Ali RA. The Battle took place in Siffin- east of ar-Raqqa in the basin of Euphrates.

The warring parties camped themselves at Siffin for more than 100 days alternating between negotiations due to lack of interest in fighting.Then due to failure of compliance between the armies, a war was waged for three days between the Iraqis under Ashtar’s command and the Qurrā’, in Ali’s RA army.Ali RA boasted of an army of 80,000 men, including 70 Companions who participated in the Battle of Badr, 70 Companions who took oath at Hudaibiya, and 400 prominent Ansars and Muhajirin while Muawiyah had a fleet of 120,000 Syrians.

This battle finally culminated in the legendary appearance of Muʿāwiyah’s troops with copies of the Qurān on their weapons as an indication to let God’s word decide the conflict. ʿAlī agreed to bring the matter to arbitration on the basis of the Qurʾān and delegated Abū Mūsā al-Ashʿarī as his representative, while Muʿāwiyah sent ʿAmr ibn al-ʿĀṣ.

Please do watch the video to find out how the battle ended and what was the greatness in this arbitration.

 

Episode Transcript

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Bismillah R Rahman r Rahim al hamdu Lillahi Rabbil alameen wa salatu salam ala Sayyidina Muhammad Ali, he was like me, he married my back. So today inshallah tada as I promised you, we're going to continue talking about the problematic issues that took place in the time of audit will be a loved one. And today we're going to talk about, really there's no question about it the single most difficult and awkward and painful incident in the entire first generation of our tradition. And as I have said many times before, but just in case somebody only listening to this one lecture always have to make this disclaimer, we are intentionally not going to go into a lot of detail. And I

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explained why in my previous lectures, as Allah says in the Quran, tilaka oma Tanaka holla la casa de la comarca septum that is a generation that has gone by in the past this your generation that has gone to como to encode Khalid, la Hama, Kassovitz, they have to answer for what they did, what a comarca septum, you have to answer for what you do. And I also mentioned again, that we definitely have a premise, some would call it a bias, and that's fine. We have a premise, and that is that we believe theologically, that the Sahaba are a respected and righteous people, and that none of them would intentionally do something against the interests of the oma. And we also believe that the

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Sahaba are good human beings. But this doesn't mean that they are sinless, it means that they may commit sins, but overall, their good is much more than their any mistakes that they might have made. And the sins that they make in sha Allah is trivial compared to the good that they do. as well. There are instances where you can make it hard you can you can figure out try to figure out what's best. And sometimes you will fall into mistakes. So we need to be very careful when it comes to the Sahaba. And especially while we are the last one we're going to talk a little bit about him as well. And in today's lecture, we have a huge if you like dichotomy, we have two strands, even within our

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own Sunni Islam, that especially when it comes to the figure of morality or the law, and that some people go to one exaggeration and making his status more than it is and others go to the other side and they criticize beyond what is acceptable. And we are inshallah, in this lecture, I will follow the middle path. And we believe that all of the Sahaba rhodiola one who modeled one, all of them, that includes Maria, but we also believe that not all of the Sahaba are of the same level. That's how they have different levels amongst themselves. Like Allah says in the Quran, is that women come an unfair common problem for table cartel. hula, aka modera Jetta Medellin

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Cartel wakulla why the Lord Krishna, this is explicit, not equal, or those who embraced Islam before the conquest and who fought Jihad before the conquest.

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liars the way they're not equal. Ola, aka those who embraced Islam and fought our modera Chetan endo, they are a higher level from those who embraced Islam afterwards, then the conquest of Makkah. And then Allah says we're cool and why the lovelessness both groups Allah has promised Jenna to them. And while we are the last one, he definitely is of those who converted. When did he convert? When did he convert?

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No, that is wrong. When did while we were converted, or the loved one.

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After the conquest, after the conquest of Mecca, one of the last batches of Congress as we were going to come to and so no one ever in our tradition of the classical history, no one ever said that while we are not the last one is of the elite of the Sahaba. He is of the Sahaba. But he is not of the elite of the Sahaba the people who fought it, but they are to read one the people who were in hunda No, he was not there. He was in Mecca. He embraced Islam at the very end. Another important disclaimer

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that unfortunately, we have always had from the very beginning of our writing down of knowledge,

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sectarian understandings of history. What do I mean by this? These incidents define Satanism and Judaism. These incidents define Satanism and Chisholm. So when a Sunni writes about these incidents automatically, they have a premise and that premise is the

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Sahaba righteous people. So they will interpret things in a certain manner. And when the Shiri historians write about this timeframe, they automatically have a premise. And that premise is anybody who opposes it is not even a Muslim, or a very, very, very bad Muslim. And so the whole lens of history is tainted. And we all know, at least those of us who are involved in these things, which of the two sides is always emphasizing these into these points of history? Which of the two sides always brings up this period in history? Which are the two sides? The Shia side, right? Because for us, as I keep on saying, why don't we bring it up that much for multiple reasons? Number one, our

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religion is independent of what happened in this timeframe. That's the main point. What happened didn't happen. Our theology does not change after the man in a law does that change about what happened before the Sahaba Emanuel Quran imagine Day of Judgment, nothing changes correct. Our activity is not based on what happened after the death of the Prophet system. its history, not theology. Now as for the other group, their theology is early history, their entire and that's why the average Shiri is 100 times more aware of these incidents than the average Sunni because this is their religion for them. This is how they define themselves. They know who said what, and he did

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this and Fatima did this. And abubaker did this, Remo did this. And some of it might be true, some of exaggerations of his lies. And the average student is like, I don't know all law or the law, some of them and that's what they know, because their religion is based on the Quran. And the Sunnah, is not based on these incidents in history. So don't be surprised to discover that the earliest books ever written about these incidents, who wrote them,

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the sheer sight now what's gonna happen when the first guy is already writing from that perspective? It's a domino effect. Right? And so unfortunately, even in Sunni sources, unfortunately, sometimes we have reports that are not coming from our sources, but simply by virtue of the fact that there was nothing else and these guys filled in the blank. And you know, this is not an advanced class. Nonetheless, I'll give you one name that even students have knowledge of history should know that there is one particular historian from the sheer East Side who wrote around 20 booklets and I mentioned him when we talked about the Kabbalah. I mentioned him when he talked about the Kabbalah

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because he has the first booklet on Kabbalah ever written, he wrote it and all of the narrations of the shout out about Kabbalah go back to this one book, every story and every the arrow pierced and the water was deprived and so on, so died and this and that the whole tragedy comes back to this one booklet. The same guy, his name is abou Miss Neff, Luke Eben yahia you should memorize this name and it is well not every single even beginning student of Islamic history knows this name, because he is the first Shiri historian he died 157 Ah, that's like similar to Eben is half 150. Right? Even his half dead 150 this is even before my medics death, Abu hanifa is around this time right your mom

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shop very after this. So this is very early on. And again, what are they interested in? Our scholars are writing Syrah and Hadith in this timeframe. Our scholars have been is how what is he writing the life of the Prophet sallallahu sallam. Their scholars are not that interested in that timeframe. What are they interested in?

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MK tell Hussain that's the booklet right? The mocha Jamal, the Battle of the camel. Right market Sophie these are all titles have definitely been Yeah, he has these booklets. And these booklets were the first things ever written about Safin, for he wrote an entire book on Safin a whole book on the Battle of Satan. We're going to do another book on German, the Battle of Campbell, another book on McDowell Hussein, that's the the thick booklet that he has another book on mythology and whatnot, because again, for them that is their religion. Now, as for and of course this person has been studied, you know, throughout history. Many PhDs and dissertations have been written just about this

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person. I have, in my house, a number of PhDs and dissertations just about a woman and about his reports and about how it impacted even Sunni history books. Now, this person I've omitted enough, has zero credibility in our tradition. Mr. mill, Bahati, Dr. Courtney urbinati. Everybody of our tradition said, This person is a well known fabricator. He's a storyteller. He just gives stories. He's not reliable. But guess what? Most of the stories that we know of this timeframe they go back to him, including some stories that perhaps some of you also heard, such as

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The details of the arbitration between Abu Musab between Amazon and ALS, for example, that's a whole coming from a woman coming straight from him, Rubin. Yeah. So we have to be extra careful when it comes to these when it comes to these stories. Now, of course, our talk today deals with while we are the last one and what happened between him and I do the last one. And as even Tamia clarifies that while we was of the very last batch of converts, those whom the profits are technically free. Remember when he said, leave today, you're all free. That's the last batch of converts. That's the very last batch of Congress, the total, the very last batch. And I've been Tamia writes that, while

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we was always considered a better person than his father, who is his father, I will Sofia right? I will soufiane was also of this batch of talakad. While we are His Iman and taco was better than that of Abu sufian. But while we as older brother had even more status in the eyes of the Sahaba, and the process, and then him and his older brother's name was yazeed. So while we are son yazeed, was named after his older brother, okay, is that clear. So while we our son is named after his brother, his brother is yazeed then his brother dies, then while he has a son, while we will call him yazeed. So yazeed was the one who was appointed by Bob, in fact, by Abu Bakar, sorry, even by ibaka, as soon as

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Damascus was conquered,

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Abu Bakar appointed now, well, the worker hadn't been alive at the time, but takut already begun, or Omar was the one in his era appointed yazeed and then he as he passes away, natural death. And so Omar appoints his his younger brother muawiya, to be The what? The governor of

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Damascus and Sham entire which includes Jerusalem, basically, all of Syria. Now, while we are the law one Therefore, he was based in Sham, essentially, for the entire Caliphate of Aloha, Bob, and earthman. That's 22 years. And in those 22 years, he establishes a infrastructure and the smooth line bureaucracy that no other province is able to do.

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And there is no question he was an effective politician. You know, some people are born to be leaders, and he is definitely as well born to be a leader. And his leadership has always been top notch in terms of managing in terms of running, what is assigned to him. And you know, all you need to see is that look in the time of earth model de la and home, how many complaints about the governors of Kufa, but the governors of bussola, even there's just a Rolodex, everybody goes in and out. I wouldn't get into all those details, but I'll just tell you that every few years, a major complaint that people have Kufa said, and most of them are not valid complaints, right? Because the

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people are finicky. But while we are the law, honey never had that problem. He ruled, and he was an effective ruler, there was never a major complaint against more iwea throughout the timeframe of our modern hip hop and restaurant, even a fan. Now why is this the case? Well, a number of reasons are given some of the scholars say that there is no doubt that as well, one of the main reasons would be that some of the greatest of the Sahaba, they settled in Syria, so more or they've been jabbered, one to Damascus, or about an assignment, one to Damascus, aboda, all of these great Sahaba, they settled in Damascus. And so because they settled in Damascus, so there has been this this trickle

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down of their knowledge. Secondly, muawiya himself was indeed a very effective CSC, a person of politics, and there's no denying that he knew how to run a bureaucracy and a government. Thirdly, another reason is given this is interesting, and that is that the people of Damascus, by and large, were the most cultured of all of the cities that the Muslims were ruling because Basra and Kufa were brand new cities. They were established by the Muslims. And so and the people that were living, there were a whole, if you like hodgepodge of different types of people, they don't have their own culture and civilization. Many of them are never living in cities before. Their own culture is not

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as refined as that of the people of Syria and Damascus. They're living on the Romans. So as it is the Syrian people, because they had been ruled by the Romans, right? Because remember, Syria was conquered from the Romans and Syria was basically it is one of the main intellectual capitals, Damascus. So the Muslims coming in. The people of the city are not like the country folk. They're not like the village dwellers. They are a civilization and so because

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Have this as well, there's not that much chaos. There's not that much, you know, craziness in this land as it is compared to the other lands. So while we are on the lawn, therefore is basically effectively running the entire province of Syria for more than two and a half decades, then the fitna happens of Earth man, and the death of Earth man takes place. And this is when the first tensions began to arise between the law one and while we are the law one,

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what happened. And I'll be very, very simplistic, I'm not going to go into a lot of detail. And I do apologize. But that is what I strongly believe the less we say, the better it is. So there's going to be a very, very quick if you like summary, the first signs of tension came when I needed the loved one sent a governor to replace muawiya.

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So I did all the law, one chose another person to be the governor, with a small entourage with the letter stamped and sealed and basically said, You're in charge now. And while we are has to step down, now the question arises, why would you even do that? And the response to this is, frankly, we don't know. There's millions of reasons, not millions. A few reasons are given a lot of reasons given. But the fact of the matter is, we don't know what was in his heart, why would he do that? Now the common

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interpretation, which is taken as a fact by non Muslims, which is ridiculous from our perspective, but it is what you will find in every book written in English and unfortunately, many books written in Arabic, and in other languages. The common misunderstanding is that the reason why I did this was because the bundle Hashem and the bundle omega were always rivals in Jamelia.

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This is true. In Jamelia, the bundle Hashem and the bundle. The basically the omega is the bundle of the chumps The winner of the show suitable omega, they were rivals, and there was always tension between them. That's true. But there is no indication that

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Alia rhodiola, one did this because of that reason, and this seems to be something that is being read in by outsiders and non Muslims. So what is the reason Allah knows best? What we do know, however, is that

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after the death of malware and the assassination of sorry, the assassination of john oliver, the law has essentially changed almost all the governors, in fact, all of the major governors, so it's not just Syria,

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perhaps he's just turning over a new leaf, perhaps you're just bringing a whole new administration so that things can run smoothly. Now from his own perspective, there might also be Allah knows best, perhaps some aroma, as some people have said, and Allah knows best that there was a fear that since more, or we have the allotment and earth man or cousin, so Earth man, and while we are from the same, but omega chimps, they're from the same hubiera. And they are basically a cousin once removed, so they're very close together. And they were actually close in life as well. So perhaps the summertime, I say, there was a fear that while we are the alumni might do something if he was left

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in power. But then he did something,

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even though he was asked to leave so Allah knows best. But that's the there is a theory that there was a fear that if he remained in power, things might get worse. So earlier, the alarm tried to ask him to leave. But then that obviously did not work and made things worse. In any case, we do not know. And the end of the day, we don't know what was inside the lion's heart. What was the reason? But he has the right to me. He's the halifa. And for whatever reason, I mean, even if he didn't get along with him, whatever, this is his right as the ruler as the halifa. I mean, sometimes in order to run the company, if two people don't really get along, they move, they're shifted in departments.

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That's what happens. So whatever reason we don't know I did all day long sent the governor with the entourage. While we heard, he intercepted the the governor before they entered Sham, and

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troops were sent out. And the governor was basically told you are not welcome. Go back. So the governor that was appointed by little the other one is stopped physically, no harm, nobody's hurt, but they're stopped and they're told you cannot go come in go back where you came from. And so obviously, this is now

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this is effectively a type of

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a type of rebellion are Yeah, I mean, essentially, like you're not going to accept what are the law the law is is saying now

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before even are literally allowed to do anything. I should situation and palha and the others started rising in Basra. So he had to pause everything when it comes to muawiya and go and deal with that situation in Basra, which we talked about last time. Okay. Now, in the meantime, while we're on the last one

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Against to call for the revenge of the death of Earth man. And one of the relatives of Earth man, or their loved one had

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gone to Damascus, with the shirts that earthman was wearing when he was killed. Along with this is gruesome, some of the fingers of Nagila, Earth man's wife, because remember, when the sword came down nyla attempted to protect the Earth man, and her fingers were cut off. So one of the relatives with money is basically not going back to Mario, who's another relative of his, and he has these tokens that this is, we need to get the revenge for the killing of Earth amount of the love line. And so while we says publicly that we demand the vengeance, or the deer or the dumb, basically, the blood of Earth man has to be avenged. And these items become public displays in the main, although

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we must jitter everybody should see them Now, can you imagine the visual impact that's going to have how it will make people emotional, legitimately feel angry, something has to be done? Where are the killers of Earth, man? How could they still be walking, and again, there was this notion. And some of it might perhaps be true, that many of the mobs that were involved in the death of earthman, are now on the side of our leader, the loved one, and that also I should know, the Lord brings it up and both sides. So there was this notion that that the very people that were involved are basically on that site.

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And there might be an element of truth, but obviously, it was greatly exaggerated as well. So Oliver, the other one has has to pause everything go and deal with the issue of the Battle of the camel, the German deal with the with the eyes, you know, the low one on top, and and the other Sahaba over there, and that is in Basra. And when that is done now he has to figure out what to do with Sham with Syria. And he decided that there is no other alternative than to march from Basra all the way to a sham from Iraq to Sham because this is basically rebellion and you cannot run a country if one of the most significant provinces is not in your control. And so, Alia de la one marched with

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his army towards a sham Assyria, and he eventually camped in a plane, a large area, outside of basically Damascus by a few days journey called Safin. So the land is called Safin, and it is known to this day that land and Safin is where the battle took place. This marching took place in the month of the ledger, which is our month right now the ledger of 36 H 36. Ah right. So 1400 something years ago, okay, when does 101 years ago, in this very month of the ledger. Now, what is the month of the ledger?

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How long

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Sharon how them

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What does that mean?

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No fighting, what is the next month

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moharram What is moharram?

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Also the same, right? So, while we are the Allahu Allah gets sorry, earlier on the other hand gets to Safin in the hijab, and it is of the shadow harem, it is literally the hijab. And so now began a long series of back and forth,

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lasting four weeks, and it's also the sacred month, so nothing can take place anyway. And it is said that a number of prominent Sahaba visited both sides attempting to avert a battle.

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So famous Sahaba from Ibn Abbas two sides. So we will consider many of the famous are habit, they're worried that this is going to eventually become a battle, which it does. For these few weeks. They're trying their best that it doesn't happen. And Abu hurayrah himself on the line visited Maui, and he said that I learned to cotton Why would you fight this is the halifa are you rejecting him to be the halifa and while we have responded to him, but on the other one, I know that I Lee is better than me of well meaning and I know that he is more entitled to the philosopher and I'm not contesting his position. Now this is very, very important. While we are the last one was not saying

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I am the halifa.

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He never said this until after the death of idea of the Alolan. This is something that is very clear, and no historian worth his salt says otherwise. This is without a shadow of a doubt that while we wrote the law one was not claiming that Ali's khilafah is illegitimate, and I should be the halifa

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Rather, what he is saying is, and this is what he told the other one, that I will be forced to fight him until he hands over the patella truth man, or he deals with him himself. And when he takes vengeance for the death of Earth man, then I shall join the rest of the people who have given allegiance. So it is very clear that Huawei is saying, I feel obliged as the senior most political authority that's related to Earth man, that it is as if it's my responsibility. Now. That's what he's basically saying that it's my responsibility to make sure that Earth man with your loved ones death is avenged, that the people who killed him are brought to justice and last week already

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mentioned, why this was effectively impossible. And Alito, the law felt that it would cause a great civil war. And he was hoping there would be no other civil war with Russia. And while we turns out their civil war has happened here, and it didn't happen on on that site and legal to level Amazon Canada Marula. And

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even Tamia also mentions that, that while we as camp had this presumption, perhaps some of it might be true, as I said, that the killers of Earth man, we're literally in the camp of it. Now we don't, we cannot believe the killers of Earth man would be in the camp of it. But what is without doubt true, those 1000s of mobs that were outside of Medina, many of them are now in the army of the 11. This is something well known, you can read the books of history, some of the main leaders of the instigators whatnot. Now why he did this and was honestly it raises a whole can of worms. But as we had said that he had that to both camps did and Eliza knows the reality of why they did this.

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Nonetheless, from the side of Maui or the law, one there was the presumption that number one, the killers are on the other side. And number two, if we don't fight, what happened to Earth man is going to happen to us.

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So there was an element of self defense as well. Nonetheless, even Kathy writes that the emissaries went back and forth throughout all of the shorter lowdham. Until it was clear that really, there's not going to be a breakthrough, that both sides there cannot, there's no compromise being reached. And so when moharram finishes, and sofar begins. So within a few days of suffer, Adi rhodiola, one basically announces that there is no chance for reconciliation, so be prepared. And this is following the shediac. And especially when you're fighting a Muslim, you do not surprise attack. So as you know, the allotment basically says that it's clear, seven, eight weeks to six weeks have gone

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by, we are not reaching any impasse. And we're gonna have to deal with this matter, basically, by war. And this is, as I said, a very traumatic incident for both for all of us from both sides, because this war was not accidental. Unlike the Battle of the camel, which we can really very easily say that there was no intention for war. But in this case, there is no getting out of it, that when the negotiations did not transpire, then both sides felt there's no way other than actual fighting. And this is the very first intended civil conflict in Islam.

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And our prophets Allah Selim predicted this as we'll come to, and he said, the first time the sword is unsheathed within my oma, it will never be shaved back. Elijah milk gamma

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is a headache prediction. The first time the sword is unsheath within the oma, it will never be put back in a yarmulke. And we have constantly seen inter Muslim fighting and wars and even now as we speak, one nation is fighting another nation and one is bombing another and whatnot. And this is the reality of the oma since the time basically of this incident, nonetheless. So on the sixth of suffer a little deal, laquan announces that there's no point in negotiations and prepare. So on the morning of the seventh, while we aside was the first to attack because they felt if they don't attack, we're going to be attacked. And so on the morning of the seventh which was a Wednesday, while we're on the

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other hand, his his forces attacked in the band the grounds of suffering, and the two armies fought incessantly for three and a half for some say five, some say six, Some even say seven days. They continued to fight Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, some even go on Monday, Tuesday, but it been conceded. Others say that basically on Saturday. It finished like three and a half or four days, but they only fought during the day. They did not fight at night.

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Subhan Allah, this is, at one sense, you're sad and other sense you're happy, both sides would stop for Salah time

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both sides would stop for Salah time, both sides would pray janazah over the dead, because obviously what's going to happen, they're Muslims, both of them, right? There was an understanding that no person who turned his back and fled would be pursued and killed. Because this was from both sides perspective, not the type of offensive war that takes place in the SWAT in, in fighting against the enemies and whatnot, there was understanding that if a person is wounded, you're not going to kill him. There was an understanding that there's no honeymoon,

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there's no taking of war booty, both sides are acting in a manner that is actually we can say Islamic to the greatest extent possible, even as they are fighting one another. And that is not going to be replicated ever by the way. That is not going to mean this level of at least there is an element of basically any, you know, fairness right on both sides. That is not going to be replicated ever after this. Nonetheless, the armies basically did not there is no clear victory. There is no clear victory on either camp. And the numbers involved. Our books mentioned staggering numbers.

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Even Casio says this has been considered who's one of our most famous historians 120,000 were on the side of it. And of this 120 40,000 were killed.

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And 60,000 were fighting on the side of Malia and 20,000 were killed. So it'd been Kathy who is one of our mainstream historians is estimating the number of casualties at 60,000 dead.

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Well look at this number. By the way, there are numbers that are more than this, and the numbers are less than this. I just give you one. This number is just mind boggling. More Muslims died on the Battle of Safin than all the Muslims who had ever died since the beginning of butter. Up until pre Safin fighting against the kofod

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This is the reality on one day, between the two Muslim armies, more Muslims died at the hands of Muslims, then all Muslims who became martyrs from bothered and then hung up and zap and, and everything. And how do you see? Yeah, right. And how I mean, everything combined. And this one battle eclipses all of those. And this is the this is the reality of what is going to be a foreshadowing of what's going to happen in the oma. Now I have to point out this is Erin Kathy he's saying 60,000 others say 5040 But still, I mean, okay, even if it's 40 I mean, Subhanallah just, you know, what can we what can we say? That's a huge amount of people on both sides. And our Prophet

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sallallahu alayhi wa sallam predicted this, pretty much all the scholars of Hadith understand this hadith and work to quote as being a prediction of Safin. Obviously, our processing didn't say the Battle of Safin, but there's a headache and Sahih Muslim, our Prophet sallallahu Sallam said, How do you assign Muslims authentic, right?

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The day of judgment will not come until

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two large groups of people from my oma to large groups from my Ummah, will fight one another, despite the fact that their call and message is the same.

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There are wahama wider their message and call their banners and their rallies, their understanding is exactly the same, but to attain the ultimate aim to massive groups of myoma will be fighting one another, despite the fact that in reality, there is no equity left. Because here's the sad point. It's not as if a stock for the law, it was saying I'm not going to take vengeance for fun. As we explained last weekend, two weeks ago, he had his own itch the head of how he would do that. It never actually happened because he's dealing with all of these issues. Right? But the methodology, it's not as if he is saying I don't care. We're not going to take vendors for a month, we showed I

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demonstrated that Ali and his sons were protecting Earth man to the very end, that he was on the side of Earth man that he wanted and he tried his best but so that that was why I had that well whom I wanted. Their call is the same. But tempers flare emotions got involved which they had was done on both sides. And this reality took

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And

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another point also, as you mentioned, one of one of the brothers asked, but this means this, how many of the Sahaba die, actually Subhanallah, most of the Sahaba refuse to unsheath their swords in this battle, especially the elite of the Sahaba. Even those that were physically on the sides, many of them refuse to actually kill another Muslim, Mohammed ebenstein, who is one of the greatest stab your own. He's a student of Abu hurayrah, Mohammed bin sitting he died 110 hedgerow Mohammed bin CD and said, so he's attacked Barry. When the fitna reached its peak, when the two battles were fighting, there were 10,000 Sahaba, alive. but less than 100 took part in the battle, then he said,

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actually less than 30. And you can reconcile this less than 100 of anybody who had seen the processor. And less than 30 of the elite of the Sahaba, less than 30 of the big names participated, the bulk of the Sahaba the bulk of them, refused to fight another Muslim. Even if their hearts were on one of the two sites like in the sense, they support one side against the other, but they're not going to reach blows, they're not going to kill. And many of the Sahaba they specifically said to either Ali Omar, we really learned that we cannot go this far. I'm not going to unsheathed my sword against the Muslim, right? Even if I support you again, this cause or what not, but not this. So the

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actual number of Sahaba who were on both sides, we said less than 30 of the famous ones. And maybe 60 of those whose names went even further because it had yet to adapt how many Sahaba 100,000. Right of those groups that would not even know their names, the people who saw the process, and they have them maybe there were 6070 maybe and of the elite less than 30. However, there was one in particular that became the big name in this battle. And that is a more urban Yes, sir. That is a more urban, he has a mighty been Yes, it of course, is one of the most famous of the Sahaba.

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His father, of course he Asad, whom I'm named after was the first martyr, male martyr in Islam. His mother was somebody who was the first martyr you all know the stories go back to the very beginning of this era, Amar himself was taken and dragged and tied up and tortured to the point of he could not even think straight. And he could not even understand what he is saying. That's how bad he was tortured. And he was a teenager, like he was literally in front of his really tragic story went over this in this theater, how many years ago, he's seen his own mother and father die in front of him tortured to death. Now they're taking him the poor kid, you know, and they begin to torture him to

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death as a teenager. And he's a teenager. So he buckled under the pressure. And he praises the gods and says whatever they asked him to say. So they let him go and he comes running to the process of them, you know, bloodied and bruised and when it comes running, and he says, you know, sort of law I've destroyed I'm destroyed, you know, what happened? And so he says that I was tortured to the point of I didn't even know what I was saying. And then I just said what they wanted me to say. So the President said Kay four digit callback, how do you find your heart? So he said multiple in non bill email, it is still firm in the mind of artists still from an email and so allows me to review

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certain is that we decided to this day send the haoran write a lemon or Korea what Babu who was my endometrioma this what Amar said? What Ahmad said is in the Quran, multiple elements in the Quran, that Allah is just saying that whoever says schofer except the one who was forced, and his heart is multiple inbuilt a man. So he made that exception for all people. So Ahmad was the one who opened the door for that exception. So Ahmad is that teenager who then

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migrates to avicennia comes back migrates to MK Medina, so he does both migration so he's of that status, participates that brother, so he's a buddy, and offered and Honda and how they be so he is of the elite of the Sahaba, the highest category of the Sahaba. And one day the Prophet sallallahu Sallam said to him, and this hadith is multifaceted it's in so many books of Hadith Bukhari and Muslim they all have it one day the process of said to him way Hakka Amar Dr. Luka to Berea

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Won't you are careful we have here means Be careful couldn't either Heather Be careful way heck or water as we say we have Mr. The group that has rebelled is going to be the one that will kill you. This Hadith is authentic like the sun. The group that has rebelled will be the one that will kill you Dr. Rocha alpha to albizia. Now Amar vinyasa

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was a staunch ally of ID out of the alohar, the right hand man of ID from the beginning. And he participated in the Battle of Safin. And at this stage, he is now around 90 years old now, around 90 years old, he's in the Battle of scifi now. And he and in fact, it is said that he had his, his spear. And he was putting his spear in the ground, like, you know, hitting it, hammering it, and saying, I fought with the Prophet system three times with this very spirit. And this is the fourth time You know, I'm going to be using the spear. So he's on the side of the law, one against the side of Mongolia. And on the third or fourth day of the battle. He felt that this was his last day he

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just felt it's a premonition, these are people, a lot of xojo. It gives them these feelings from Allah azza wa jal, he felt that this is it, I'm going to be dying. So he called his servants or whatever, he said, Bring me some milk. They said, Why? He said, The profitsystem said to me, milk will be the last thing you drink before you die.

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So I want to fulfill that Howdy. So milk was brought to him, he drank it, and he went into battle and he was killed. Now which side killed him?

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So the death of our mod had been Yes, it became a sign because all the Sahaba knew the Hadith. All the Sahaba knew the Hadith. In fact, earlier, the Lord Himself picked up the body of Amar, and let it in janazah. Again, because this is now a sign that which of the two sides is more closer to the truth, right. Now, how did the other side interpret this? How did the other side interpret the because the Hadith is known, isn't it? The Hadith is well known the process and said it.

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In fact, in all likelihood, he said this more than once, because we have so many Sahaba when the machine is being built of Masjid of the process being built multiple times, he said, won't you or Amar, the Bahia group is going to kill you?

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How did the other side interpret this? Well, somehow, hello, where there's a will there's a way where there's a will there's a way. And this is the reality of all of us, all of us that when we want to find a way out, we'll find a way out when somebody came to me while we are their loved one, and said to him, that Amar has died today. And the Hadees said

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that the Bahia group is the one going to kill him. And our group killed him.

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So what was the response of Maui rhodiola. One, he said, Woe to you. We're not the ones who killed him. The ones who brought him to the battle

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are the ones who caused his death,

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flipped it around, when at

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the ones who brought it to the battle are the ones who brought around about his death. And

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even Kathy narrates this from Huawei to the last one, and said, this is a very far fetched interpretation of the Hadeeth. The point though, we have to be very clear here.

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While we are the law, one did not

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intend to

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reject or disobey with the process that I'm setting. He had an interpretation that some would label far fetched even Katia himself has had it that we don't read. That's like bizarre, is it been Katia saying this, right? That's just not very, but these interpretations are, in reality, coming from some type of a man, God. So what I'm saying here, like he does not want to be the one that is valid.

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And this shows that he has some Eman that he does not want to be the one that's rebelling and so he's trying to reason with himself justified himself, how can I not be the one? So then he brings out this interpretation, and

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Allah azza wa jal will account him for his new year, right in the amount of money yet whether it's right or wrong. Allah azza wa jal is so Rahim he judges people based on Nia and not based on actual being correct or not. And there are many instances, such as the man of the bunnies throw in, who felt that if Allah resurrects me, I'm going to go to jahannam. So I'm going to make sure I'll never resurrects me I had a different body. Right. And so what does he do? He tells his children when I die,

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burn my body. incinerate. You know, cremation was not known to the Arabs, or the cremation was not common. So he thought if I cremate my body, a lot cannot resurrect me.

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And this is good for isn't it? Because you're thinking that you can out with Allah. You're smarter than all that. You can go

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So he said to his children cremate my body, distribute the ashes everywhere. And so then I would I don't have a problem of eurocom I'd rather not have your mo kiama. So Allah azza wa jal caused the wind to bring all of the ashes said couldn't fire on demand stood in front of a lawn, the day of judgment. And Allah asked him this isn't the Hadith last him, Mohammed Al Qaeda, why would you do this? And so the man said, has sciatica. scared of you. And being scared of Allah is a man. And so Allah forgave him because of his fear. Now this hadith is a principle is derived that Allah bases judgment on what? or near

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the guy's action necessitates a rejection of a lost power. But he's not doing it that I'm smarter than Allah. He's a simple guy. His mind was like, You know what, I'd rather not face Jen and jahannam let me just live this life and forget about it. I'm worried about Allah subhana wa tada as punishment. So I'd rather not face it. simple minded guy. Now I'm not saying wow, he's not simply as very important me, but I'm just saying The point is that what was this man judged on me? Yeah. And that's my point, no matter how far fetched Wow, we are. The allones interpretation is in his heart. He did not want to be the bothy group

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and that's why he's finding a way out that's not me, that's them. And in that finding way out, is he man because he does not want to be about a group and Allah azza wa jal will obviously judge people on their on their intention So in any case so Ahmad is death really caused a lot of and yes, his death really caused

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the the climate if you'd like to change, and it is said on the next day, basically, the fighting seized on the next day the fighting seas, how did the fighting seas this was the infamous incident that took place that more or we are the along one side decided to

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tie their Korans now pause here in those days, and those days are ons were massive scrolls, massive pieces of paper, not like the nice little pocket horns that we have here. These were huge parchments, right at times bigger than this table maybe massive size. So they decided to take some of these you know, leather parchment paper and tie it to their Lance's and spears and raise it up high. Raise it up high to show respect to the Koran that look I cannot use my weapon to fight you know, the Quran on there, I can't use Roman divide you. And they began to say that let us now stop this fighting and turn to the Quran to judge between us to have come the arbitration from the Koran,

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the Quran will judge between us now, here we have the one of the rewired of a woman of Lithuania, who basically blames us for this tactic, that he says this was a deceitful tactic that Amitabh now saw that he was losing. And so he did this, and this is a woman kind of it's not something that we consider to be valid, nonetheless, when the Quran was raised, so I needed the allowance troops could not fight because you have the Quran there. And this is in our religion, we all know we respect the most half we all know this, right? The the must have has the utmost respect. That's why, you know, we show respect to the actual copy of the Quran we have to do to touch it, the woman in Mensa should

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not touch it, we don't put it on the ground, all of these things we know, we show respect to the actual Muslims. So when the most half was raised up his troops as well lowered their chances, they're not going to fight. And on the other hand, he said that I am the first person to take the Quran as the guide. I'm the first person to take the Quran as the arbitration that I am not going to say no to this. And so eventually what was decided, was that each group would pick one judge, one ambassador, and these two judges are ambassadors, there's arbitration would take place, and the two of them would figure out how to resolve the tension. So our little deal on chose of homosexuality of

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homosexuality, and while we are the one who chose on but if nothing else, Musashi and Amber, ignore us now.

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The fact of the matter is that details of the arbitration are vague in every report, other than a woman of swan.

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And the version that many of you have read and heard is coming straight out of the ultimate kind of version of history. And we don't accept that version. And I will make notes version, you all know what happened. And that was essentially that's the wrong version, our tricked our Musashi.

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This is the version that is well known and popular. everybody hears this version, that armor is portrayed as a cunning, evil, sly politician, and Abu Musab is portrayed as a naive simpleton. And this is not correct.

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The both of them were intelligent. And the both of them were politically savvy. This is simply not correct. But oh, my goodness version has this, this twist and whatnot. And for those of you who don't know, there's no need to mention, I know many of you know the the details over his version. But this is not found in the other books of history. Rather, what appears to be the case is that the conditions seem to be generic, that fighting is going to seize that, for the time being, while we can remain in Syria. And our little the law, one is basically in Iraq, that the two of them are not going to attack the other side, there's not going to be any more war, and that we need to now do

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further discussions to bring about a full resolve of the tensions. Essentially, the truce did not flesh out the details of how the truce would take place.

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The truth was simply, both sides were tired of killing one another. And they said, You know what, we just have to stop this. We're not going to fight you each day in your realm and whatnot. And there probably was this notion, and there are reports that Okay, next year, we're going to meet again, and we're going to get, but both sides got busy in other matters, and they never went to war again, but they never quite solved the tensions as well. And the last one is, was eventually assassinated by the major problem that took place after the Battle of Safin, which he had to deal with for the next three years. And that's one of the reasons why he couldn't deal with Maui, as well. And that is the

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issue of the hot edge. We'll talk about that in Charlotte. Next week in Charlotte, next week. Next Wednesday, will be a little bit of theology, a little bit of history, and that is the hot edge. And by the way, that's very important because it deals with the modern ISIS and higher than all of that as well, because these are manifestations of the whole outage as well. So after this, of course, it and while we are on the 100, they never went to war again, but they never actually solved their tension. And eventually, within three years after this, I literally alone is assassinated. And after this, while we're then declares himself to be the halifa, as long as it was alive, while we're never

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challenged his status as Khalifa, he never came under him technically, he never gave him the beta. He never gave him the oath of allegiance. And he kept on saying that when you resolve the earthmen issue, I'll give you the oath of allegiance. So, theoretically, he is acknowledging that Ali is the halifa. But he is saying, I can't give you my oath until you solve that problem. And that problem was never solved, it is no longer is killed. And so while we attend declares himself to be the halifa. So let us briefly comment a little bit about this battle of Safina and how we are to interpret it in Tamia writes that by unanimous consensus of the aroma of Islam, Ali rhodiola, one is

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the better of the two, and the more correct and the more rightly guided now pause here. The she accused us of being on the side of malware. And this is simply wrong.

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This is simply wrong. And I said this when I talked about Kabbalah We are the real she actually I said this, and I meant it. And it is something that we Sudanese theologically believe this is a false accusation against us that the Sudanese are from on the side of Wow, we know we are the real shout out to it. We are the real supporters of it. And this is even Tamia, whom the she i think is like the worst hater of audio the loudest and it's not true. liquidy is writing this history from his book Menagerie sadhana, and damia has a 10 volume book. It is the most comprehensive book ever written in the history of Islam, pre modern, about the differences between Sunni and Shia Islam and

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the critique of shears and from soon ism. This is the most comprehensive book 10 thick volumes. And in this book, he writes that by unanimous consensus of all suddenly Rama Ali was a Haku. Bill Hader for one, Mr. Ali was the one who was better suited and in charge of being in charge of the oma. And that there is no doubt that you know, ma We made an HD hat and that he had no doubt was the less correct of the two. So even Tamia is now technical here, because he is saying our Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said, if a leader or a ruler makes he had he tries to form something, and he's correct, he'll get a double reward if he's incorrect, he will get a single reward. So even Tamia

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says, even if more outerwear was more

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and more, that means he was wrong, even if it was more like Allah xojo

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will still give him a single reward. And this is the Sunni point that we do not accuse more of a stop for a local for or nifa.

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But we say Ali was better than him without a doubt, and the Sahaba who refuse to fight, or the best in terms of this issue, they weren't better than it overall, it is better than any Sahabi alive right now. But in this issue, those who refuse to fight, both sides were the ones who had the safest and the best position. And he also pointed out, and this is something very important for us. This battle that took place was a battle of politics and not happy that

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it was a fight that deals with Scioscia and not Dean. neither of the two sides accused the other of heresy, of Cofer of nifa of deviation. They are praying janazah over the dead of each other.

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And there are even reports and Allah knows how true they are. But it is not surprising at all. It is not surprising at all. But I learned how true they are that at times when Salah was taking place. They would pray in one Gemma, even if they have to go and fight on the other side.

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Now, it's not at all bizarre, if you understand the mentality of what's going on. The teknaf was not over Dean. So why would they mind praying behind other people? The notion of the other side being deviant did not come to their minds. The notion is you're wrong. Yes. Politically wrong. Not theologically wrong. So this is a failure. fcafc not a Arkady. And he says and this is something very awkward. But it is probably true that on both sides, words were uttered that were very harsh. And we're not going to mention those words. As I said many times, you know, if your mother and father have a fight, you don't regurgitate each and every phrase, we let it be life goes on. And we

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respect more outerwear and we respect it more than more are we? And words were exchanged. Some of the books record these words, we turn away from them. We don't find any benefit. any benefit in in regurgitating he said this, he said that this was said about him this way. It's a war people are dying. Yes, tempers are going to rise, perhaps even early and while we have said things about not each other's Dean, but that, you know, this is whatever they might have said things. Let's leave it at that. But it's understandable. And so even taymiyah points out that you know, it's a harsh words that we just, we don't have to think too deeply about them. It's a war going on. There's anger going

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on. And the main point is that muawiya never proclaimed himself as halifa. nor even did he challenge these right to be halifa. But it is true that when Ali died, yes, that was when while we took the oath of allegiance of Hitler. That was when and he did not accept Hansen's oath, which is at least son in Kufa, he did not accept Hansen's oath, and eventually, of course, has an older loved one who would basically acquiesce and give up now as for himself, as well as the Lord Himself.

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His persona is one of the most controversial within Sunni Islam. It's not controversial for the Shia, they hate him, they despise him. They don't view him as a Muslim by and large, but even within Sunni Islam, unfortunately, we've always found some tension out of all of the Sahaba no Sunni ever says anything disparaging about the elite, or else they wouldn't be Sunni. Unfortunately, we do have some of our own Ummah, especially Modern Warfare, kidding, I should say, modern thinkers, right, they they kind of went beyond what is permissible, and they said things about the clock and character of malware that they should not have said and the fact of the matter is that

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he was a Sahabi that he was of the last batch of converts, and therefore he just got the honor of being a Sahaba but that because he is of the last batch he cannot be compared with the first batches. Also, he was the brother in law of the prophets Allah send them how can we ignore that? Because

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his sister is who

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are my hubby but Binti

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be Sophia, right? And so more Alia is a brother in law of the Prophet sallallahu Sallam and that cannot be ignored, as well. While we are the last one was chosen for a brief period of time, to be of the people who wrote the Quran when it was revealed the kuttabul way. He was of those

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were chosen because his background was educated. And there were very few educated people in Makkah, we know this. Abu sufian was a politician and he was educated, and his sons were educated. And so while we I was chosen by the process of to be of the kuttabul Why? This is well known, even sad, everybody of the classical book says this, the fact that he wrote the Quran for a period of time, if you're going to doubt him, you're doubting the Quran.

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If you're going to doubt his character, you're doubting the prophets of some choice and asking him to write the Quran. And we don't go, we don't cross that line, as well. There are some Hadith that seemed to indicate indirectly or directly the blessings of muawiya of them is headed in Muslim Mohammed that

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the Prophet sallallahu Sallam prayed for more aware that he alone Medina Hadi and Madea is a famous headed along with Allah who had the Madea he somehow and he made it too out for him that Oh Allah make while we're somebody who is guided and who guides other people, the idea, so the Muslim of Mohammed, and it is also reported in Sahih Muslim and Sahih Muslim, that the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam praised the first group of Muslims who would ride the waves in Gaza and jihad. The first naval expedition and

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oma Salah was there. And she asked the process him to make dry that she is of them. And she is she was of them. And that is why she was of the group of Sahaba who,

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who invaded which land, Cyprus overdose, right and that's why her grave is still over there to this day, literally. The Masjid is next to the beach is on the beach, the most of the textures on the beach, because that's where she died, who was in that group as well as Maria, while he was one of the leaders of that group, and our Prophet sallallahu Sallam said that that group shall be a forgiven or a blessed group. They're different versions of the Hadith, that that group is a forgiving group, and where are we as a part of that group?

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So what are we has the blessing of being of that group that the Prophet sallallahu Sallam praised? And there is no question that while we are the law, one, effectively managed to rule over Syria during his lifespan. And then when he became the halifa, he became the most effective King the oma has ever seen. Because he became a king as we know, he put his son in charge, he became the most effective dynastic ruler the oma has ever seen. And the only ruler who has a hobby, the only dynasty ruler was just a hobby, right? Because who after him was a hobby, and an dynastic rule, Dominica, King ruler, and a member nozari, one of the famous scholars of Syria who died in the era of the tab

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your own. Remember ozar you said that many of the Sahaba were alive in the time of muawiya. None of them challenged while we as rule, none of them in that after Ali's death, none of the Sahaba rebelled against why we are not the only one, including Abdullah zubayr, who rebelled and muck and ages When did he rebel?

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For those who know history, after while we his death, he has it after a while we his death is when he really rebelled against the hereafter before that time, it was tension, I would say, but the actual proclamation if you like, this is afterwards that took place. And in the sauna, Timothy, there's a beautiful narration that says that while we are the last one wrote to Asia, Asia is alive when it comes to halifa. He wrote to Asia, give me some advice and be short. Give me some quick advice, short advice. And so I wrote to him this heads into the meeting. He wrote to him as salaam alaikum. I heard the prophets of Allah who I knew he was, send them say,

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men who read the law, he be supporting us, whoever seeks the pleasure of Allah, even if it means displeasing the people. Allah will take care of the people for him. And whoever seeks the pleasure of the people by disobeying Allah, Allah will leave him to the mercy of the people was Salam article is the Hadith. Simple, sweet, short to the point, but what does it show us

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good relations, and that more our one spiritual advice. The fact that he's writing to Isaiah and says, Give me some advice. I want to hear something that will benefit me. What does that show us about the character of while we are the law of wine, so all of this cannot be ignored. And we, and especially myself, I'll be very, very clear here. I do not at all agree with a group of thinkers of our

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times. Some of these are founders of Islamic parties and movements. I don't want to go beyond this. Many of you look up to these individuals. These are modern thinkers in the 40s 50s 60s 70s, who are founders of these political movements. They felt that the problems of Islam began with Huawei. These are suddenly thinkers, that wow, we changed the color for Russia into a

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kingdom and dynasty. And it's too deep and too profound or too much to detail go into this. But honestly, it is naive simplicity to assume that if we hadn't done anything, we would still have had a filler for Rashida.

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All you need to do is to look at our little yellow one was rain, and how much fitna happened in his time,

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even though he is way better than why we are the other one. But he could not quell the rising tide of whatever instability, whatnot. And the fact of the matter is, I believe, and we Sunni should believe this, that Allah subhanho wa Taala use more Aria when he needed to be used as the halifa. And he was the most effective halifa for his generation. And honestly, if you look at it from a neutral standpoint, he was an amazing leader, he managed to transform the religion of Islam into a global civilization. He was the single handed person who changed the dynamics of Islam from being something that literally

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has not been exposed to the world. It's still coming out of the culture of Arabia, and he makes it the beginnings of a global civilization. And that's the Omega dynasty overall, and especially, why are we even abusive yet? And and he is the only king of our history, who was also so heavy. No King after was so heavy. And there's no question that

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having a dynasty is not the default and the ideal. But we also have to be clear here. Being a dynasty doesn't disqualify you from being a diva. And if you believe this, then essentially you're saying we have never had a paid offer for the last 1400 years? And that's ludicrous. What are the omegas? The Ibis is the mum Luke's, the Zen David's does the ubitx, the, the the the husband of it, I mean, every single Sultanate, every single benefit has been dynastic, for the bulk of our history, because frankly, it's easier for a civilization to understand, okay, this is the family that's going to rule us And the world works in a more better way in this regard. Even if it has problems. There

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is no ideal when it comes to this. The fate of Russia has gone away. Bottom line I'm going on and on. And we need to finish up here. The bottom line

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while we are the last one is somebody whose character and whose Eman and taqwa is beyond dispute that's beyond the red line. We may disagree with his he had in how he handled the situation. But we don't ever impugn his knee. Yeah. We don't talk about his character as being bad. We may disagree. And it does appear that

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his rebellion against it, it'll be a lot one

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was not the better of the two HD hats. But in the end of the day, what happened happened and Allah subhana wa, tada will deal with them based on their nia. And we also believe that if you look at what he did afterwards by establishing the Omega dynasty, and by that I mean the Omega dynasty, as well as another dynasty, that a lot of volume is done against it. The fact of the matter is, once again, we have never had a dynasty as effective as the Obama years despite its flaws, despite its negativities and there are negatives, the omiya dynasty overall for 90 years. It was the only dynasty that was completely uniting the oma after the fall of the Olay is what happened. They almost

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split up. You had under those who had

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the bulk of the buses as well. Eventually you had the safavids the moguls that hammer, hominids, you had all of these fractures in the time I do my heads. It was one from seen all the way to Muslim from Morocco, all the way to China. You had the Omega drilling one plaintiff. We've never had it since that time, the oma yet says Well, we're the only dynasty where the conquests were still taking place at the same level as that of the time of the Sahaba.

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When the Sahaba is expansion, the oma years continued all the way to China and do

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not even Morocco. Where did they go? Spain, they entered Europe, right. This is the time to do my yards. The Ibis is did nothing compared to that and the Ottomans

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did nothing compared to that and the monologues did nothing compared to that and the tube isn't the dominant is did nothing compared to that. So, the oma years indeed some tragedies happen like Karbala and what are major tragedies? No question. But in the grand scheme of things, we have never had a dynasty as powerful and as effective and yes, as humble even how so and again, I go into my tangents here, but the way that the mayor's lived was not like the way they are buses, the Ottomans lift, the mayor halifa intermingle with the people. He lived amongst the people. He gave the multiple and lead the salah and Juma whereas later on the reefer is not even qualified. And these

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days, we don't even want our leaders to recite Fat Tire. They're gonna embarrass themselves as we see YouTube videos all the time. Yeah, the world has changed. The omega is where people generally speaking of demand and taqwa they had some knowledge they they were in charge of the oma they had so much head in them, yes, they had major problems, but compared to what happened afterwards, they were lightyears ahead of of the rest of the later generations. In any case. So the bottom line is the Battle of Safina is a great tragedy. And we simply ask Allah subhana wa tada to forgive both sides and we move on and we don't dwell too deeply about that timeframe shall the next week, we'll talk

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about the holidays and the assassination Valley and then move on to the other Sahaba we have a very important announcement inshallah before our cider and that is an hamdulillah. As you know, MSE has been looking for you The director Alhamdulillah we now have brother Sophie, you can stand up Sophie's All right, Tom, well, everybody knows Sophie Mashallah. So, if you find has been appointed our youth director hamdulillah we felt that he is the most qualified person because he is a member of our community rather than get somebody from outside we know brothers often shall be very effective in this role, and inshallah any youth related activities and all complaints now can be

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directed to, to him inshallah. So, I have now cleansed my hands of Youth Affairs, and it all goes on, he shall have a shot that he'll do fine shot low dad. Okay.

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There's

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no, there's no.

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There's no hiding like this. Nothing like this.

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Yeah. When it comes to these types of blessings about these words, most literature that we read is not found in the classical sources. And Sharla. Yes.

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About

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not every single thought and a multitude.

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Not every single This is the

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general rule that when they fight for an illegitimate cause, then indeed a lot of them have to find out but this is, as we mentioned, a few weeks ago,

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in the class, sorry, in the in the Hadeeth classes that we're doing the other side of what is the Sunni rule when it comes to ye when it comes to punishments? What is the rule that Sudanese have when it comes to punishments and threats and the Quran and Sunnah when Allah threatens punishment? What is the rule? Do you remember the rule we mentioned? The rule is that

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the threat of punishment is generic. And we do not apply it to specific people, because the default of a Muslim is forgiveness. So the threat is general.

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So when Allah azza wa jal says, or the Hadith says that whoever drinks comma this is going to happen. Or when the Quran says whoever eats the orphans, money is eating jahannam. Right. But now you see the Muslim and he's drinking, are we going to say you are going to Johanna? No, because Allah will weigh that one evil with all of the other good, and Allah will judge based on the good and the evil combined. And the default when it comes to a Muslim is forgiveness. So when it comes to the Sahaba, the default is even higher than this.

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And therefore, the Allahu anhu will do.

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Okay. shala. With that we pause and continue next week and Shalom to others.