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Have been able to recite it even if
all the Qurans were burned. To hide this,
he had to burn the Quran.
Even if you burn every Quran on earth,
we we will bring it
back.
Cover to cover cover. The Quran has ever
been changed in, Never been changed. The Birmingham
Quran, you're looking at one of the oldest
fragments of the Quran ever discovered. Will Smith
talking about how the Quran is so clear.
I just I loved the simplicity.
The the the Quran is so
clear.
It's
do exactly what Snykou did. His response was
beautiful. Candace Owens, a Christian.
To all Muslims who are not during that
time in America, I am sorry on behalf
of America. The Koran,
because it's a miracle. So Jesus was a
Muslim. Of course. Moses was a Muslim. Of
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Are there 10 versions of the Quran, 7
versions of the Quran, or is there only
one version of the Quran? This is what
a new Muslim was asked at the speaker's
corner by the name of Sneko.
Was he shocked to hear this for the
first time, this question being raised?
Let's go ahead and have a look at
that and also contrast that with the bible
with my next guest. As soon as we
have a look at this video, we'll bring
him on. He was actually mentioned
in this interaction
between,
Soneko and the other individual, the Christian. I
was wondering what your perspective was about, the
preservation of the bible and the Quran. Right.
The the Quran has never been changed in,
the Never been changed. There's only 1 Quran?
There's only only only one version of the
Quran. Is it Only one version of the
Quran? Yeah. And since then, like, people have
been able to recite it even if all
the Qurans were burned. We'd be able to
Right. Right. Because the oral tradition, you know
exactly what it is so you can recite
it. Oh, I can't recite it, but people
can write it. Yeah. Right. Right. No. No.
This can't. So do you accept that there's
10 kilo aat of the Quran? Ten different
readings?
Sure.
Okay. But those 10 different readings are obviously
different. Right? K. So if they're different, then
there's not 1 Quran. There's 10 Qurans. Okay.
So do you take that back if there's
only 1 Quran? This is the first time
I've heard that. This company will tell you
this. So I had to chat with him
about it. So, Malik El Madin or Malik
El Madin. Owner or king in Arabic. They're
2 different words. So if you wanna read
up about this, you can get a book
called the 10, Qiraat of the Noble Quran
by doctor Firdaus Miman, who worked for the
Bridges Foundation in Cairo, which is a dower
institute. And he's wrote a book a book
about it, where he translates
the Quran
into English, but not just in one reading.
He does it for all 10. So do
you accept then that the Quran is not
perfectly preserved? Now to help us answer this
question, are there 10, are there 7, or
is there only
one
is the person that was actually mentioned
in
this video,
Fadel Suleiman. He's an international speaker, or to
filmmaker, and presenter of Islam, also the author
and has a master's degree in God's law
in the Sharia. He's the one who produced
the book, translation of the 10kira'at,
the noble Quran. So without further ado,
let's bring out sheikh Fadel Sulayman.
Much respect I have for the faith of
Islam.
How are you doing, Sheikh? Hamdulillah.
Perfect. I
didn't know that. So,
my book was publicized in, by non Muslims
in,
in Hyde Park. I think Bigger corner. That's
in your backyard there, isn't it? Yeah. But
I I don't go there usually. So he
okay. So let's get this, point. So this
person, there's a new Muslim by the name
of Nikko.
So he's visiting the speaker's corner, and then
he gets hit
with this
question. Now these doubts start coming in. Are
they 10? Are they 7? And then you
get mentioned because you're the author. He says,
check out your book.
Is he gonna check out your book and
get more confused?
Yeah.
Please. How would you answer this? No. How
do we, how do we address this?
Okay.
That's that's actually unfortunate that many
non Arab speaking Muslims don't know that about
the.
The
are,
7,
not 7 dialects. So, actually, even the the
the Muslim brother who was next to him
who told him these are 7, like, 7
dialects, like the British dialect, and that's that's
also not true.
The 7,
are
7 modes of reciting
the Quran,
and they have nothing to do.
I'm sorry. It's it's not 7. There are
10. I'm sorry. There are 10. 10 qira'at,
10 modes of recitation of the Quran,
and they have nothing to do with the
7 ahrus
which were mentioned by the non Muslim brother
who it looks like he gets bits and
pieces from everywhere.
But the 7
are completely different from this from the 10th
karat.
It all started by prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi
wasallam being worried
that
he he is sent to the Arabs for
in the beginning,
and the Arabs have different dialects,
And
some of them,
may be,
less educated
than others, so they may not be able
to manage,
learn the Quran in a dialect that is
not theirs completely.
So he told Jibreel, he is the one
who asked for the aroof.
He told him, oh Jibreel,
I was sent
to an unlettered nation,
a nation of unlettered people who don't read
and write. Among them is a shaykhul Kabir,
the the old man,
and almar al ajuz, and the old woman,
and as Sabayi al Sareer, and the young
child,
and the man who never read any book
before.
So Jibril told him,
don't worry,
this Quran
is descending on 7 aharuf, which means it
has many meanings,
but the the meaning that most scholars
understood it is that it had on on
7 different ways
of,
or 7 dialects. So it will be suitable
for everyone. Like, for example,
the believers.
But says,
they don't say.
Whenever the hamza comes in the beginning
of
the root of the word
because
comes from the root
The hamza comes in the beginning of the
root.
It it does it it it is not
pronounced.
Okay? So it's it's it's it's a it's
a it's a knowledge. It's it's a science.
Anyway,
so the it was descended like that,
and
then by the end of the life of
prophet Muhammad salallahu alaihi wasalam,
he found that the dialect of Quraish
was
accepted by everyone because actually everyone loved Quraish.
Quraish were the custodians of the Kaaba. The
Arab pagans used to go for Hajj
in
Mecca, so they were okay with Quraish.
So what
the prophet was worried about
was not really
it it it it it it never it
was never a problem. So the pro the
prophet himself
in the last
arba, in his last presentation
of the Quran to Jibril in Ramadan,
In the presence of some Sahaba,
he presented the Quran only in 1,
harf, which is harf.
So he, the prophet, who asked for more
aharf, he is the one who abrogated
6 and only one harf
is there. Good.
But this has nothing to do with the
Quran.
The 7 modes of recitation
existed in every harf,
and I'm gonna show you why.
When we speak about different we
are speaking about
variations
in the recitation.
70% of them do not affect the meaning,
only performance
variations.
Like, for example,
how long do we extend
the vowel?
For exam example, some, the the the Madinan
people, they say
which is called medillin,
but others just say
normal or natural,
lens.
So this differs, it's only performance.
Like for example when I say heavens and
the earth, we say,
This is what most people read in house,
but
people people who read
so mostly Moroccans, Algerians, Tunisians,
they read it like that.
Not
and there is Hamza reads it like that.
He stops
for a for a for a he poses
before Al, before Arb. This is just performance,
it does not
affect the meaning and, of course, I could
not
embrace it in
here because
to embrace it in your translation, this is
by the way, it's not a book, it's
a translation of the Quran,
But translation that embraces the 10th Koran. So
the second type of variation
is what is embraced in my translation because
it affects the meaning.
And the non Muslim brother actually gave a
gave a very good example of it. He
said, for example, in Al Taha,
This one means owner and this one means
or, this one means,
king.
Which one of them?
It's both of them.
And that's what he does not understand.
That the
the Quran is precise
and at the same time,
concise.
It's it's brief.
It's not a very big book like that.
It would be hard for people to memorize
it. It will lose even its
its its eloquence if it's too long and
too so
stammate
can be read
in 2 different modes. Each one of them
gives a different meaning, but not one of
them contradicts with the other. So if you
want to know the meaning of this aya,
you have to put both layers above each
other.
So Allah is Malik and Malik Yawideen.
Allah is the king
and the owner.
King gives the,
denotes
authority,
rule,
and denotes
ownership.
Not every king is the owner.
Not every owner is a king. Allah is
the owner
and the one in authority and the and
the ruler.
Understanding. So not every owner rules and not
every ruler owns.
So he is Melek and Melek at the
same time. So that's I wanna tell you
something.
I
am a Muslim, born Muslim, but had I
been
have been a non Muslim,
and I studied all what I have studied
in Islam.
The
would
be the the point that attracts me to
Islam, the
because it's a miracle.
It is the miracle of the Quran. In
my own opinion, this is the miracle of
the Quran.
Lately,
we finished So Absaure Yeah. Let me stop
you there. So what you're saying is on
top of all the miracle.
Embryo in the Quran cannot be based on
scientific knowledge
in the 7th 7th century.
Mohammed could not have known these facts about
human development in the 7th century
because most of them were not discovered until
the 20th century. These facts could only have
been revealed to Mohammed by the one known
who knows all about us. The last fundamental
message sent to mankind, prophet Mohammed, he did
physical miracles. Then he had the living miracle
of the Quran, the preservation of the Quran,
then you had the prophecies. All of that,
you would say this trumps.
This would be on top of all of
the evidence already
to convince you that the Quran is the
verbatim word of God Almighty, the creator of
Allah. This that this this person, this Christian
is trying to cast doubt into the new
Muslim's heart, Snekko. This would actually
counter and come out as a miracle
for you. Well well, this is also very
complicated because the word miracle in English
is just something outstanding
that is against the laws of physics, but
in Arabic, Mu'ajiza doesn't mean that.
Literally means something that incapacitates
the
foe or the the the the the opponent.
The Mujizat
of prophet Muhammad,
the miracles that the physical miracles that happened
to him
were not in the present in the presence
of the opponents.
They were in the presence of the sahaba.
So they were miracles in a sense because
they are outstanding when, for example, the pedals,
made the spit in his hand. When, for
example, his, the the the the trunk of
the of the palm tree
Spoke?
No. No. It actually it it cried because
he left it and started standing on a
member that was made for him,
a pulpit. So these are water Water from
his hands?
Exactly.
Feeding a whole army from the food of
2 people only.
But these are
not
because they did not happen in the presence
of opponents. Why? Because
physical miracles
are a plea against only
those who have seen it
and watched it, or
some people who learned from them about it,
maybe 2 generations who learned from daddy and
ghetto. You understand me? So these physical miracles
are only a plea against
a few people, and at the same time,
that did not really work with many people.
So, for example, Farah Farahun
and all the Egyptian people attended a huge
physical miracle, and they still did not
believe. Only those
magicians believed because they knew that this cannot
be magic. So usually, prophets are called magicians
when they do physical miracles.
Quran Islam is the last message of Islam
or Islam is the last message of God.
So Allah wants the last message
to depend on an everlasting
message,
an everlasting miracle, and that's the Quran.
It is the only miracle that does not
need its messenger to do it.
The king of Moses is a miracle,
but it needs Moses.
And the the miracles of Jesus need Jesus
to do it, but the miracle of Mohammed
does not need Mohammed now to work. It's
working. It's the Quran.
Okay? So that's that's the issue.
And the main miracle of the Quran
is people say it's eloquence.
I don't believe it's the eloquence because eloquence
is unmeasurable.
So to challenge people with something, it has
to be measurable. That was the
Qira'at.
The Qira'at? Okay. We all know that Allah
Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala
challenged
the Arabs who are the actually the poets
of the Arabs are the masters of the
Arabic language. He challenged them to bring a
Quran like it and they couldn't. So he
gave them a discount. Ten Surahs,
they couldn't.
More discount. One Sura. And one of the
Suras here is only 10 words. So
the only 10 words.
They couldn't. It's not only they couldn't.
None none none of them dared
to accept the challenge.
And many people don't understand why.
It's because of the karaat.
This, when they heard it,
I said, we don't, we don't fathom.
What's that?
It's it's the same
letter said,
same words even,
but it's like a different language.
And anyone who knows Arabic knows that there
is poetry
and there is prose
and there is Quran. The Quran is, cannot
be categorized as poetry nor prose. Why? Because
it's a different style.
No one can
come up with a Quran like it. I'm
gonna give you an example.
In the beginning of Surah Al Mujadila,
I'm going to read to you, in Arabic
and in English,
the aya,
you would find it beautiful and acceptable and
nice
in Arabic or even in English. But if
I say it outside the Quran,
you will not be able even to hear
it. It will be painful.
I'm gonna it says like that.
It says,
Allah
has heard
the argument of the one of the woman
who came to argue with you about her
husband,
and Allah listens
to your, to you and her arguing with
each other, and Allah is indeed
all seeing, all hearing.
If I say this outside the Quran
by
replacing the name Allah
by a different name, MD for example.
Eddie has heard the argument bit of the
one who came to you arguing about her
husband and Eddie is listening to you and
Eddie is all seeing, all hearing it, it's
it's painful.
So when you say it outside the Quran,
it's unacceptable.
Inside the Quran, it's fine because the Quran
is in itself
a miracle being
a style, a unique style.
And the Qira'at is one of these things
that makes it a
new style of the language.
For example, I'm gonna give you another example
now. We all know that pharaoh
told his assistants,
allow me to kill Moses.
I'm afraid that he
changes your religion,
or
makes mischief,
or or makes mischief
in the earth.
There are 4 different
for this ayah
which explains to us why he did not
kill Moses because he started the area by
saying, allow me to kill Moses and then
he didn't kill him and no one told
us why he didn't kill him.
Only the Quran will tell you why he
didn't kill him.
The 4 Quran say,
allow me to kill Moses, I'm afraid that
he will change your, he may change your
religion or make mischief appear on earth. The
second Quran,
I
am afraid that he
may change your religion
and make mischief appear on earth, not all,
okay?
I'm afraid that he may change your religion
or
mischief may appear on earth and he excluded
Moses from this which means that maybe an
enemy will make use of the
upheaval in the society and do something.
And the 4th one is maybe he will
change your religion and
mischief will appear on earth. What does that
mean? It means that this was a long
meeting
with his assistants and he started by allow
me to kill Moses,
which means
pave the way. Start
spreading the word that this is a terrorist
and it's okay to kill him, yeah, by
dehumanizing him and his people. And then what
happened?
It was a long meeting.
Every alternative was put on the table.
Every possibility or probability was put on the
table, and they ended up telling him, no,
you have to debate with him.
Send callers to call
on people in in in in the different
villages. So the qara'at told us what? Because
those are 4 different meanings, but none of
them contradicts.
But it shows that every single possibility was
put on the table.
The most the example that I that I
love most
is that when Allah
made Moses
become a prophet,
Moses was
afraid of his own shortcomings
that they would affect the dua.
So he was trying to convince Allah
not to send him alone and maybe bring
his brother with him to
assist him.
So he told him,
They, there's a there is a them against
me. There is a crime that I
there's a charge. I'm charged with killing. I'm
afraid that they will kill me if you
send me to Egypt.
Then he told him,
and my chest constrains
and my tongue is not fluent.
This has another qira.
Instead of the dama fatha
instead of
instead
of instead
of
Does it affect the meaning?
Of course it affects the meaning.
The first one means
I'm charged I have a there's a charge
against me, there's an accusation against me, I'm
afraid they kill me, I am afraid they
kill me.
And
my chest
tightens which means I lose my temper quickly.
And my tongue is not fluent, But the
2nd Torah of Yaqub al Hadrami,
it means,
and my chest may tighten,
which means I'm afraid that they may kill
me and my chest may tighten.
I may lose my temper, not my chest
tightens already by default.
And the second one is,
and my tongue may not be fluent when
I speak to pharaoh.
The first one, my tongue is not fluent.
He has he spent 10 years outside Egypt
not speaking the Coptic or the the the
the language.
So he lost most of it or he
won't be able to speak fluently.
So which one did he say?
This is here. Did he say
or Neither one.
Moses did not speak Arabic.
The Quran is rewriting the scenario of the
old narratives of the Prophet in an artistic
way in the Arabic in the Arabic language.
That's the that's the mind blowing.
Moses said both of them.
Moses was trying hard to convince God
not to send him alone. So he told
him,
there's a charge against me, they may kill
me. And also,
I may lose my temper because I already
lose temper quickly
and I may not be fluent because I'm
already not fluent.
So he said both of them. So to
understand
the meaning, you have to put the layers.
It's like, you know, when a child draws
a drawing on several layers of calc paper,
the transparent paper,
and each layer
gives more details.
It's mind blowing.
Mind blowing. Yes. Mind blowing. I'm telling you
this would be the thing that attracts me
to Islam. The problem is many Muslims,
non Arabs, Muslims don't even know anything about
it. That is why I spent 4 years
of my life doing this.
But also, if you want to talk about
the translation,
one of the features is talking about the
hereafter
in past tense.
Allah spoke about the hereafter
which is about 500 occurrences in the Quran,
all of them in past tense.
All translations
made them in future tense.
Why?
It's they were worried that the English reader
will find it awkward
when it speaks when it addresses the events
of a future event in past tense. But
actually I'm sorry, the Arabic reader also found
it awkward because even in Arabic,
past tense never denotes future tense,
but it made you ponder, it made us
ponder why would Allah speak about that important
future event in past tense.
It's because Allah is
He is not confided by time,
lies outside time and space.
So, yes, the hereafter is a future event
for you and me but not for Allah.
Allah is outside time.
For Allah, there is no future. So when
Allah spoke about a future event like the
year after, he spoke in past tense. He
said, and the evil doers were driven to
hellfire
in Surat Al Zumr.
If you go to 168
translations,
they change it to future tense, shall be
drawn to, in hellfire. But Allah said, they
were already. They are there already.
Wow. This is, like you said, mind blowing.
So this is actually
something that's more technical.
And just to summarize, we have the 7
dialects.
So the 7 dialects,
and then you had the 10 modes of
recitation.
Yes. So we can say the 7 dialects,
can you say that this is like when
you're in Britain, British English,
English from USA,
Texas English, even within the USA,
hi, howdy,
things like this that now These were abrogated.
These were abrogated. There is no more only
one dialect now, the dialect of Quraish.
So the are not there anymore. Prophet Muhammad
himself who asked for it, and he abrogated
6 of them and only one state.
Now you have 10 modes of recitation.
Exactly. Still being applied today?
Ex of course. And they are they were
inside every half of the seven.
Because if they give different meanings, so they
were in every one of them.
And now this is these 10 modes of
recitation, this is like the elongation,
how to maybe stretch, how to recite, and
and then the way you were explaining it.
Like that? Yes. Some of them are like
that. And some of them are grammatical,
which I can delete.
Okay. With okay. With all of this now,
you now when I open up the program,
I said, is there 10 versions of the
Quran, 7, or still 1? No. 1. What's
the question? 1. There's one without a shadow
of a doubt. Yes. Absolutely. There's only 1
Quran, but if you want to know a
meaning of an ayah that has variation of
you have to put the whole meaning is
the meaning of all the
in it. Usually, it's it's 2 or 3
in some area. You have a lot of
experience. You've been helping to educate people on
Islam for a very long time.
Do you think now many people, they do
this maliciously,
they have this intent to try to, like
they tried to confuse a new Muslim, Snyko,
deliberately
putting this out there because it's technical. This
is something to it takes it's not something
you could just answer in 30 seconds, in
5 seconds. Do they do this deliberately
to go ahead and confuse
to stump someone? Yeah. Actually,
the first people whom I've seen
holding my book were actually some Islamophobes
who are attacking the Quran. Some of them
is called something white or something like that
or Jay Smith. So they appeared
attacking the Quran
using my book, which is actually any is
is is,
is not good, but of course they do
that deliberately.
Definitely. So they do this, deliberately, but when
you come down to it and you speak
to an expert, that's why we brought we
actually brought the person that he mentioned
in the interaction with the new Muslim, Sneko.
How would you advise someone who's now, let's
say, in this situation?
And now Sneko,
new Muslim, and he's like, what? You know?
Because it's very standard that we talk about
there's only 1 Quran, one version of the
Quran.
So what do you advise someone when they
get into something like this that's technical, and
then you're kinda like you you you're not
gonna be able to articulate it, unpackage it
like you did. How should they, in a
condensed version, be able to, address it? Do
exactly what Snykou did. His response was beautiful.
No. I didn't know that.
You are not supposed to know everything, by
the way.
No one knows everything.
And it's not, it's not wrong. It's not
wrong not to know, but it's wrong not
to learn.
This book of Allah
is an amazing book, it's not ink on
paper, it's a spirit.
Allah said to Prophet Muhammad
and I have
revealed to you a spirit by My command.
If you establish a relationship with the Quran
by
pondering upon it, because Allah sent it to
us to be pondered upon,
not to be just memorized without understanding.
This is very dangerous. I see many Muslims
just memorizing
without understanding, thinking that this is okay, this
is not okay.
Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala ordered you
to understand it.
It's like instructions from Allah
and it's beautiful,
but just do effort and yeah,
some people told me, yeah, but like that,
it looks like the Quran is that's it's
not very simple.
Of course, it's not simple.
Why do you want the book of Allah
to be simple? If this is the miracle,
that is not gonna be simple. You will
spend all your life learning it, and you
will not learn at all.
Right. One of my, former teachers,
he said that the crown is like an
ocean. You can enjoy the water in the
shallow,
and then the deeper you go, the more
you can go ahead and enjoy of the
ocean.
But but it is it is opposite to
other oceans.
It is safer
when you go in-depth
and it's
dangerous when you are only in the shallow.
Don't stay in the shallow. Go in-depth.
Keep going. Keep going deeper. Go.
Was there now, like and we'll contrast this
with the Bible, for all due respect.
Was there a committee now? Did you have
scholars? Did you have the companions of that
time arguing and setting up committees? And
over over this issue? Was it a contentious
issue?
Was this something now through history? Like, he's
mentioning the burning when you hear this state,
Uthman or the Allah that
now to hide this, he had to burn
the Quran.
Even if you burn every Quran on earth
earth,
we will bring it
back. Cover to cover.
And how do you answer that? That that
that's a very good, by the way, I
answered all these in some
misconception videos that I have.
What Uthman did was very good because
what Uthman did is not Quran's.
The what what he burned is not Qurans.
He burned the
of the Sahaba. The word means
block note.
It means notes.
So the Sahaba had notes
in which they wrote
what they heard from the prophet. They wrote
Quran
and they wrote the tafsir of the Quran,
and they wrote many things that and there
was no,
red color pens and blue color pens. No.
So it was all like
cluttered in their
in their notes. So the with
the,
he
made actually the Quran was collected
a few weeks after the death of prophet
Muhammad salallahu alaihi wa sallam. And
everything
was written in the presence of the prophet.
He just collected. Abu Bakr as Siddiq collected
the parchments
that were in the houses of the Sahaba,
and he made a committee that not one
parchment is added except if there is a,
if there are, witnesses
who witnessed that that was written in the
presence of the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam and
all of that was kept in in a
form of a book in the
house of Hafsa,
the daughter of
Umar al Bukhtab and the wife of Prophet
Muhammad
And then when Uthman ibn Affan came,
the Muslim
state
has grown
and he needed to make copies.
So he made
the same person who was the head of
the committee
of collecting the Quran,
he's the same person who will copy it
and at the same time,
he
will the only difference is that they rearranged
the surahs
according to the presentation of prophet Muhammad because
what Abu Bakr was focused upon that nothing
of the Quran is lost, but some Surahs
was were not in its order. So it
was reordered
according to the presentation of the prophet
and copied and sent to the different,
countries.
What the what he did, Uthman, after that
is that he told the Sahaba,
you are commanded all of you to bring
your notes
and they will be burned because this
is in favor
of the Ummah of the nation. Because if
it stays and someone after the death of
Abu Laden Mas'ud,
a second or a third generation
says that, Oh, there's a word that was
written in this area that is not in
the Quran. This will create a problem because
this word was what? Was just
was watched an an
an commentary.
Exactly.
So he burned in order not to have
the problem that
Christians have today with the Bible.
Wow. This is the so let let's unpackage
that again. Let's simplify it. So you have
the revelation coming down from the Gabriel,
angel archangel Gabriel,
and then it's coming down to the last
and final message of Prophet Muhammad, peace and
blessed be upon him. From there now, it
would come in different ways. What are the
different ways that the revelation would come? Just
for simplicity's
sakes? It would come down in what which
which ways would it come down the revelation?
Well, it were downloaded on the heart of
the prophet
On the heart? Hear very high very very
painful voice sometimes, used to feel pain, and
then he asks for scribes. He had 48
scribes
They come So that's the next step. So
now the scribes. So now the revelation comes.
He's got the now he had 48
scribes. Now this is this is very important
because this is not
a 100 years, 200 years after the fact,
or even a year after the fact. This
is during his lifetime.
He's got 48 scribes.
Exactly. Which where did Zayd ibn Thabit fit
in? He was the main scribe, the chief
scribe? Yeah. He was one of the scribes,
of course. Yes.
Alayb al Abi Talib scribed a lot. Mu'awiya
b'Abi Sufiyan scribed a lot. So whenever the
prophet is receiving,
he would tell someone,
bring someone. Bring Alayb Alayb Talib. So and
he's receiving
and someone comes and then he starts telling
him and he writes in in in his
present.
Now people are thinking, how are they writing?
They didn't have pens. They didn't have iPads.
What are how are they writing at that
time? No. No iPads. Yeah. But,
no. They had pens, but their pens look
different. It was like
a piece of of,
a branch that is that is
made in a certain way, and it's put
in the ink and they write on Okay.
But they wrote in different things. They they
did not have paper like ours, so they
wrote on parchments
of usually
of of,
leather
and sometimes,
also parchments made from the,
leaves of the palm trees.
Like like the pharaohs, like everybody, people wrote
on these things. So now you have the
scribes and then the prophet
Muhammad, peace be upon him, he's about
to,
leave this earth, die, and then now you
have the Quran compiled during his lifetime. Is
that correct? No. Not compiled, but written all
of it. All of it written. In the
entire,
Every single sign
well, by the way, in my translation before
We we translated the word the to sign,
not verse. And I think it's wrong to
say verse.
So you have he recited
it twice
and the before he this is very interesting.
And then and then you have the, the
verse that came down, this day I have
perfected your religion. At any time, he could
have been how many assassination attempts on his
life? 13 or or something like that? You
had,
assassination attempts. He survived
Yes. All the way until the end until
this verse is revealed. This day, I have
perfected your religion, completed my favor unto you,
and pick for you Islam Can I stop
you here? Can I stop you here? Prophet
Muhammad used to recite the whole the the
Quran
every single year in Ramadan. In Ramadan. But
the last Ramadan, he recited it twice. Twice.
I mean, these details are very very important.
This is In its midpoint. Yes. In its
later in its latest and the final form.
Because I wanna tell you something. When we
hear, for example, that Al Baqarah was the
1st Surah to descend in Medina,
but it stayed descending for about 6 years.
Mhmm. Other Surah was also descending. So whenever
Jibril gives him a little bit of Al
Baqarah, he tells him to put it in
Al Baqarah.
How how far after this ayah was revealed?
This day have I perfected your deen, your
way of life that his
About 80 days. About 80 days. 80 days.
This is very isn't this very interesting? Last
ayah. It's not the last ayah. There's yeah.
But this was right to the completion towards
the end. Yes. 18 days. It was in
the day of Arafa,
on the day of Arafa before the death
of prophet Muhammad. Like, it did or it
did. Okay. So so now everything of the
Quran has come down. He passes away, and
now you have
the next caliph now who steps up, Abu
Bakr Siddiq now, and what happens with the
Quran now? He compiled it
by bringing all the parchments
from the houses of the people and from
the houses of the Prophet. The Prophet had
several houses for several lives and they compiled
it all in a form of a book.
Now we have the book. Yes. But it
was focused on not losing anything. So the
Suras were not in the same order we
have today or the or the order of
the of the presentation.
Because the main focus was not to lose
anything because during
the battles
of apostasy,
many of the memorizers
died.
So Omar Khattab was worried
because they depend on memorization.
He told them, let's bring all the parchments
because before that, they did not need the
parchments because many memorizers were there.
So they were worried. So they brought and
they compiled it. This is one point that
the the not yet Muslims, non Muslims out
there, the Quran means the recital, what's recited
is and so this this is how it
was preserved by recitation, but we also have
the written form. Exactly. And now during the
second caliph, Omar,
now is this where it goes out as
he sends it out
to the different provinces,
the different not a government out, but he
before that, he brought the same person who
was the head of the committee of compiling
the Quran at the time of Abu Bakr
to copy it. He was also the head
of the committee of copying and at the
same time, he reordered the Surah. Is this
the same now we have the same scribe.
Is this correct? The same scribe was alive,
who was during the time of Prophet Muhammad.
He's also there at this time. Okay. By
the way by the way, there were others,
but he was chosen by Abu Bakr and
by Othman for being young.
And young people are it's not only that
they are energetic
and no. It's also that they are open
minded, and they are not gonna stick to
their opinion.
So if he if for example, he is
someone says, no. This was not written in
the presence of prophet Mohammed
and there is no witnesses
and so on, he will not stick to
his opinion because he's young, he's open minded,
Yansani.
Yeah. Objection. They they obviously cross check they
cross checked it. The witnesses who saw Yes.
Everything is there. The memorizers are checking it
also. This is profound. This is amazing. It's
truly a miracle. And now you have it
going out, and you're in UK. You have
this Birmingham Quran.
This is is this dating back now to
this time that we're talking about, the Birmingham
Koran? You're looking at one of the oldest
fragments of the Koran ever discovered.
It's written on parchment,
most likely made from sheep or goatskin,
and it's been dated by experts as being
more than 1300 years old.
And that makes it among the earliest known
fragments of the Quran
anywhere in the world, and it's here in
the University of Birmingham. We did not, I
think, in our wildest dreams, expect that it
would roughly correlate to the lifespan of the
prophet Mohammed. And where else do you find
the Quran?
Yeah. Well, yeah, there are there are several,
Yani Yani. In in several museums, there are
parchments here and there, and they're all,
actually, there there is a non Muslim,
scholar on on this called Marijn van Putten,
in, in Holland.
And and he tested all that, and he
found that it's everything
Yani, it matches
the Quran that we have today. Nothing was
changed,
by time.
Truly, Amir, I wanna get your reaction to
this now. We wanna con before we conclude,
I wanna contrast this because people,
they try to compare
the Bible with all due respect and how
it was compiled,
and they can't wrap their minds around, this
is truly when you study this, this is
indeed an evidence, a miracle that you have
it preserved the way it was. I wish
I wish I don't go into this. They
don't go into this because People, of course,
call the gospel books Matthew, Mark, Luke, and
John.
Well, they call them Matthew, Mark, Luke, and
John because we don't know who wrote these
books, and there's no point calling them Sam,
Fred, Jerry, and Harry. I mean, they're they're
written by people we don't know who they
were written by. They are anonymous. You might
not think so because they have the title,
the gospel according to Matthew. Whoever put that
title on it was an editor later. The
followers of Jesus were Aramaic
speaking peasants from Galilee,
Lower class men
who were not educated.
In fact, Peter and John, in Acts chapter
4 verse 13, are literally said to be
illiterate.
They couldn't read and write. Of course not.
They were fishermen. They didn't go to school.
The vast majority of people in the ancient
world never learned to read, let alone write,
and their native language was Aramaic. These books
are written in Greek
by highly educated, rhetorically
trained
writers who are skilled in Greek composition.
And I know this can be very sensitive
for for many people. This is not our
intent to try to offend
anybody. This is just,
an academic. This is a Bible scholar. You
also have other Bible scholars, Bruce Mesker and
others
who talk about the,
how the Bible was compiled. So now if
you contrast that where he's talking about Matthew,
Mark, Luke, and John, you don't even we
don't know who the who the authors They
are. Most Christians think that this is actually
the disciple, the companion of Jesus, but
we don't even know who they are. Time.
No one was called Matthew.
People were called Matthew the son of Saul,
John the son of Saul,
but not one of the 4
is is is called by the name of
his father too. It's really strange.
Wow. Then you have the then the other
point. And, again, in that video with the
new Muslim, Sneko,
the, person is saying, look, these are ad
hominem attacks. You're not addressing the point. We
address the point now. Yeah. Now we're moving
on to make a contrast just for better
clarity and understanding.
And I would not believe that non Muslim
if he's in London actually. I'm in London.
If I I would love to meet that
non Muslim who appeared actually because it looks
like he's getting bits and pieces, but he's
not having the real,
picture. I I mean, we want the best
for him also. I mean, we want the
best for everybody. This is, Islam the Quran
is a mercy and a guidance for all
of mankind. He's has a misunderstanding.
And then you also have a language
that
the Bar Oman mentions that the language spoken
by Jesus was closer to Arabic, Aramaic. Can
you elaborate on that? And then the the
Greek manuscripts that we don't have, a copy
of a copy of copy of anything original.
Is that right? Yes. Of course. We are
Yani Yani, the the Quran is in Arabic
and it was compiled by Arabs sent to
an Arab messenger, but
the gospel
was sent to Jesus.
But we don't have the gospel of Jesus.
The gospel of Jesus, we don't have it
but actually there is it is there is
a mention of the gospel of Jesus. Where
is the gospel of Jesus?
They keep telling us gospel of so, gospel
of so and every few years we hear
about a new gospel too.
So, yeah, actually we do not disagree with
everything the Bible by the way there are
things in the Bible that match with the
Quran like for example
We do not disagree with that on anything.
But there is other things that I don't
know why Bible scholars insist that every single
word
has to be
the word of God. For example,
don't forget to bring me
my coat which I forgot in Karpos' house.
This is an in the Bible.
And according to Bible scholars,
it is the word of the Holy Spirit.
I'm sorry.
I'm not I'm not disagreeing with the content
of the ayah, but
don't force me to believe it's the word
of God.
It's a friendly message. Someone reminding his friend
to bring him his coat which he
I think this is in the letter of
Paul
to someone actually. And or for example, give
my,
give my, send my greetings to Priscilla.
In Arabic.
This is an ayah in the book of
God.
Don't force people to believe that everything in
that book is from God.
I'm not talking about the other things that
may cause an embarrassment.
I'm talking just about things that cannot be
the word of God.
You, mentioned in,
the
language there, you repeated something for people that
don't didn't understand. What were you saying? The
commonality that we do agree with 100%. And
I kept putting my one finger on what
is that? The the absolute the what?
This is an ayah
in,
in the old testament
this is in Aramaic it means your Lord
is 1.
Yeah, your Lord, your God is 1. It's
it's it's one of the 5 of the
10 commandments.
Hero Israel, the lord thy god is 1.
Hero Israel, the lord thy god is 1.
This isn't.
Yes. So we agree with this? Yes. Of
course. Of course. We agree with all the
10 commandments.
All the 10 commandments, another thing. Let's give
an example of things that we would say
because we know the Bible is we have
some of the word of God in there,
word of the prophets, historians, and then anonymous
books like, you know, we just don't know
who they are. So you can't blame us
for being skeptical. You can't blame us for
denying
things that now are in there. Let's give
an example, like, when you have,
prophets being degraded, you know, we hold them
to the highest level, and you have prophets
of God, things that are said in there
that we wouldn't agree with. Of course. Of
course.
Well,
unfortunately
for for,
for the people of the book,
prophets are like celebrities.
They are cool but corrupt.
We don't accept that.
Because saying so is like saying that God
himself
is not perfect because he did not he
wasn't able to choose
good people to carry his message.
Couldn't he find more respectable people than those
who committed adultery
and
betrayal
and all of these horrible things?
I'm sorry, I think I'm much more better
than all of those prophets of the Bible
actually. When I look at my my life,
I didn't do these horrible things. Though I'm
a sinner and I committed sins, but not
like that.
This is attacking God himself.
God is able to choose the best of
people to carry his message. What's what's difficult
in this?
Just to bring it home before we conclude,
people are seeing the manipulation,
the spin that's happening with now this
genocide,
Gaza, and you see,
the control of the media and whatnot. But
when you had people at one time, we
know that the Torah was revealed, the injil
was revealed,
and it was left on the people to
go ahead and to
not corrupt it. They corrupted it. So the
the spin at that same thing you have
to spin at this time. People at that
time so people can understand,
same thing happening. Can we say that now
people
twisting and for their own, gain like god
almighty Allah is saying, woe to those who
write the book with their hands, woe to
them for what they make
buy their end, and whatnot. So so people
can understand better
the this can this be an example that
now those are those certain passages that twist
for whatever political gain, personal gain,
those many of those verses are the ones
that,
people change just and manipulate it. It's not
only manipulate. It's also it's it's there in
the racist mindset.
Mhmm. That's the problem. When the religion is
built on race.
Anti Semites, what does Semite mean? It's a
race.
You shouldn't be anti anyone. You shouldn't hate
anyone.
But the problem here is, okay, when we
tell them, okay, guys, how can we be
anti Semite if we are Semite as well?
I am as an Arab, I am a
descendant of Tam.
They say, no. Don't you know or not?
You're descending from
Ishmael. Yes, Ishmael is Samite. No.
Because his mother
was Egyptian
Copts, which and Copts are Samites not Samites.
So Ismail
was not 100%
samite. And then Ismail married also another cop,
so his descendants are like 25%
samite. So it all
it's all here in the racist mindset. Yes.
God said love your neighbor. He said don't
kill. Don't don't don't. But this
applies on Semites.
Equality
for the equals.
And that's what Islam came to destroy.
Islam came against this mindset, racist mindset. Islam
came telling us there is no privilege for
an Arab over an Arab,
nor for a white over a black, except
according to the righteousness.
I'll tell you something. You know, Bilal ibn
Raba,
this black Ethiopian,
ex slave,
you know who who who he was married
to?
He was married to the sister of the
most,
rich
billionaire
in the Arab world at that time.
He was married to,
what's her name?
The the sister of Abdulhamir ibn Nawf.
Abdulhamir ibn Nawf, his caravan when when his
caravan entered Madinah,
Pimper in Madinah used to feel like it's
an earthquake.
700
big trucks,
big camels,
loaded with loads of merchandise
coming from Syria.
So people used to feel like there's an
earthquake. No. That's a caravan of Abraham.
Well,
his sister was an Arab
from high lineage who meets with prophet Muhammad
in the 6th
grandfather,
and the the sister of the
the richest
person in Arabia,
and she's married to a black person,
a non Arab, he's African,
an ex slave.
But that's what Islam came to do, to
change the culture,
to change the mindset, to clean it
from racism.
Does this book that you read the Quran,
this way of life that
you follow Islam, that we follow teach you
to be anti Jew?
No. No. No. No. The Quran
speaks about Jews very objectively. The Quran praises
Jews here, you know that?
The Quran says,
We have made from among them, the sons
of Israel.
A imma, leaders
who are guiding people
to my command
when they showed patience and perseverance.
At the same time, he criticized
killing the prophets. Or does anyone agree with
killing people?
Especially prophets.
So and the Quran says, for example, if
you sometimes, yeah, there are people who are
anti Semitic and when you stop them in
the sita and you ask them about Jews,
they tell you, Jews, they don't respect a
word, they don't respect their vows. The Quran
said,
Isn't it true that every time
they make a vow
a group of them
breaks that vow? He didn't say all of
them. The Quran teaches us not to generalize.
The issue is
we do not think Jews are bad people,
but also we don't believe that they are
chosen by God.
No one is chosen. We believe that Jews
are people,
normal people, like any people. Among them are
good people and bad people. That's it.
Were they,
chosen at that time, and then they lost
the responsibility? I mean, they didn't fill up
fulfill the responsibility
or as some explain or no? There is
nothing to say chosen, but they were preferred
by sending them a lot of messenger. But
actually, sending them a lot of messengers and
prophets like that
may not also be a good sign.
Yeah. So the issue is
they were the nation of Islam. They were
the Muslims of that time for over 2000
years. They were the Muslims of that time.
So if you post
something out there, I put out there that
Jesus,
Moses, was a Muslim.
And now people are trying to figure that
out. They think like, what are you talking
about? Islam came,
1400 years.
That's why this This book should be read
with pondering.
Moses
said,
And Moses said, O my people, if you
really believe in Allah then put your trust
in Him. If you are real,
Muslimlimbs,
He didn't say Jews.
Jesus said,
Muslimoon. And Jesus said, Who are My helpers
to Allah?
The disciples said, We are your helpers to
Allah and bear witness that we are Muslims,
The disciples of Jesus
are like Abu Bakr and Omar and Ali
and Uthman for us.
So Jesus was a Muslim? Of course. Moses
was a Muslim. Of course. Abraham was a
all the prophets that God almighty Allah, the
creator sent, they were Muslims.
And that that define that word because you
were quoting the Quran. A Muslim is what?
What does that mean? What is a Muslim?
Excellent. Excellent. Akhi.
We believe that there's only one God, and
many people will agree with us on that.
One God
and only one humankind.
Because there's no difference between us. Men are
not better than women.
Whites are not are not better than blacks.
Arabs are not better than Indians. So if
there is one god and one humankind, this
means that we have one sender
and one recipient.
If there's only one sender and one recipient,
why would the same sender send to the
same recipient
different or contradicting messages? To confuse them? Definitely
not. So it was always one sender
sending the same message to the same recipient.
Good.
So it was always one religion, we don't
believe in religion
with an s, one religion. So one God,
one humankind,
one religion but
many books
and many messengers
of the same religion.
Good. Which religion is this? It has to
be a religion that is suitable for everyone.
For the whites and the blacks, and the
men and the women, and the tall and
the short, and the fat and the thin.
For everyone. What is suitable for everyone?
If I want to offer you tea, I
have to ask you first. Do you drink
tea? Because maybe you don't drink tea. If
I want to offer you coffee, I have
to ask you first. Maybe you don't drink
coffee. The only thing that is put in
front of you without asking is what?
Water.
Why?
What's the difference between water and tea and
coffee? They're all liquids. No, they are not
all liquids. Water has no color.
Had water
been blue, which is a beautiful color. Some
of us would not drink.
Mhmm. We don't drink it.
Water has does not smell anything.
Had water smell beautiful,
smell like,
musk
or Davidoff.
Some of us will not drink it.
Had water been sweet
or salty? Some of us will not drink
it. But because water is pure,
no color, no taste
and no smell,
everyone drinks it. So the religion of God
has to be unlimited,
suitable for all people.
It cannot be named after someone.
Christianity,
after Christ. A person.
A beautiful person but a person. Buddhism after
Buddha.
It cannot be called after
a,
a group of people.
Judaism after Judas, the tribe of Judas.
It cannot be called, after a geographic region.
Hinduism after Hind, India
limited.
It has to be
named,
to,
obey God.
The religion of obeying God,
surrendering to God,
Islam, which we are not named after Prophet
Muhammad.
When we are called Mohammedans, we find it
offensive, though we love him so much. We
love the dust that he that he stepped
on,
but we cannot accept to be called Mohammedans
because we're not Mohammedans.
So what are we? We are Muslims like
him
And like Jesus and Moses and Abraham.
It's one religion with many books and many
messengers.
Believe me, Islam
is a beautiful
philosophy that does not need people to be
philosophers to understand it.
How do you like to address the question
when they say you are the Muslims are
antichrist?
My God.
We
we are always worried of the antichrist
when he appears. The Dajjal is the antichrist.
When one day he is gonna come and
show people
who
he will
follow
or who who who will be his followers
and who not.
Actually, I'll just tell Christians one thing,
pray like him.
Go to the to the to the to
the,
passage,
I think, in Matthew. 2639.
Yes. And he went a little further
and fell on his face and prayed.
Do you know how this is translated in
Arabic?
Arab Christians translated it and fell on his
knees and prayed, not on his face.
Though in Greek, it's on his face. In
Aramaic, it's on his face. In every other
language on his face, but not in the
Arabic Bible. Why?
They don't want who to know that Jesus
prayed like them?
Wow. That's Muslim. Jesus prayed like us. Jesus
greeted like us.
What all I want to tell my Christian
brothers,
follow Jesus as he preached in your book.
In your book.
Do you agree with me that
God
has to be the greatest? No one can
be greater than God? Definitely.
Okay. Jesus said, the father is greater than
I.
Is Jesus lying? He's not lying. So Jesus
is saying that the father is greater. Jesus
is saying that he's not the greatest. How
can he be God?
Also, god must be able to do everything.
Jesus said,
I can I can do not out of
my own self, I can do nothing, which
means he needs the help of God? This
is not the tone of a God speaking.
Also,
God has to be
all knowing.
He said about this day or this hour,
no one has knowledge.
Not the angels and not the son. The
father alone has knowledge. Oh, SubhanAllah.
That's why Allah told us
They made God 1 out of 3.
They
worshiped God
and the messenger that he sent and the
angel that he sent to the messenger, a
package.
Why did you do so?
So we love Jesus.
Of course. We love Moses. We love all
the messengers of God. And the final message,
prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon them,
they were all ones who did Islam submission
to the will of God almighty, and they
were Muslims,
those who submit and surrender to God as
you beautifully stated. I wanna get your last
reaction to this because a lot of the
programming, Muslims are terrorists, this, that, and the
other, and we have one of the most
famous Christians in America
tackling this topic.
As a bank, really, for these wars is
because Americans don't know anything. We know very
after 911. I think about it now. The
propaganda to make me afraid of Muslims. Can't
even imagine being a Muslim growing up after
9:11 in America because I know how I
felt about them. And I was I was
young. I was 11 years old. But that
beating every day in our head that every
Muslim was a terrorist was the idea that
you got. I make jokes about it, but,
like, you you don't understand. Like, I had
to shave my face to go to airports.
My mom would make me shave my face.
Like, at school, like, I was so young.
This is actually fun. I had a a
mustache in, like, the 4th grade, and my
mom made me narrate. She was like, you
got it, like because it was really really
bad. Because whatever your like, the household would
say the kids have no filter, so they
would just say whatever they wanted to me.
But at a young
age, I realized
that I myself as a Middle Eastern was
racist too. I was like, oh, it's not
us. It's them. And so I would point
my finger out of fear. I'm like, no.
No. They did it. But then I went
to, what country did I just go to?
Sorry. I went to Saudi Arabia, and and
I don't think I've ever been to a
country that was more hospitable to me. The
the love that I got, the respect that
I got, I literally sat back, and I
hung myself out to drive a podcast. I
go, wow. I was brainwashed. I was so
scared. I didn't bring her. Yeah. Yeah. Same.
And and so first, I wanna say just,
like, to all Muslims growing up during my
time in America, I am sorry on behalf
of America. Yeah. I'm sorry. The way that
you were treated. It is so unacceptable. When
I go back and I reexamine that propaganda,
that brainwashing that took place in the classroom
to make me scarce when I didn't even
know the Muslim was. I remember going to
the airport, and someone was a Hindu, and
I was scared. I'm like, oh my god.
They're gonna take this off of this table.
I thought that was a Muslim. Right? There
was no education or anything. And the reason
for that, you know, he who controls the
textbooks controls the entire country in my view.
Right? It was because everything that we did
responding to 911 should be assessed as whether
or not they were crimes against humanity. We
bombed a 1000000 Iraqi civilians. We killed a
1000000. I was like, what were you in
Iraq?
What reaction? What? My reaction? I'm a Muslim.
I was a Muslim in America after 9:11,
actually. Actually, I'm a survivor of 9:11, it
said, but that's a different topic. Okay? We
can talk about that later.
But on the day
on that day when we went to the,
back to the to the hotel and there
were other people with us with beers and
stuff and they were afraid to go and
walk in the seat, I we were we
became very hungry. We were in the Broadway
area. We became very hungry,
and I told them, you can't go out
and walk like that in the seat of
New York. I'll go out and see if
we can find something to eat. Because, actually,
even room service was not working in the
hotel. Everybody left, to to their houses and
stuff. So I went and I I I
I walked the streets of New York on
that day.
And I was able to buy things and
I went back. And I told them guys,
because they are all the time watching CNN
and they are very worried. I told them
guys,
everything is normal downstairs.
We are in the Broadway area.
Nightclubs,
cinemas, theaters are working.
I can hear the music inside, and people
are entering.
He said, get out. I said, I I
swear to a lie. While eating, Rudy Giuliani
appeared, and he announced the closure of all
theaters starting this moment. So it was working.
And then I made it after a few
days to Washington DC where I lived
because I had to go there for my
family.
And and,
when I went there,
I found something amazing.
Many Americans were very supportive.
Many non Muslim women
were wearing hijab,
coming to the to the mosques telling us
we will escort your women to the malls
so that if any fanatic is going to
attack a Muslim woman, should know that he
is maybe attacking one of us, a non
Muslim.
After 1 month,
the same supporters
used to spit in the on the floor
when they see us and walk to the
other on the other direction.
Why?
What happened? Don't tell me 911.
After 911, they were supportive,
but it was the brainwashing
that they were subjected to in the media.
At that time I remember if you sit
in front of TV,
any channel, for 1 hour, you will see
the footage of the Taliban,
shooting a woman in her head in the
soccer field,
5 times.
Before the program, after the program, during the
program, during the commercials,
brainwashing all the time.
So we
hate
actually,
terrorism,
but when we are when you point at
people and charge them with something, you need
to know what it means. What is terrorism?
Do you know that 150
monarchs and presidents met in the United Nations
in 2003
for 2 days, a summit on 2 days
to define terrorism.
You know what happened? After 2 days, the
summit ended without a definition.
You know why? They said everyone knows what
it is. No, it's not that. It's because
had they define it,
half of them at least have to go
to jail.
Terrorism according to political scientists,
to target not to kill, target because you
may not kill, you just target. To target
noncombatants,
not civilians because some civilians can be militia.
If you target noncombatants
with the aim of pushing a political or
an economic agenda.
So, definitely what happened on 9/11
was terrorism and it's unacceptable.
But what happened in Hiroshima and Nagasaki is
also terrorism and unacceptable.
77, unacceptable.
Terrorism.
The blitz, terrorism.
Mummy, London, terrorism. All this is terrorism.
But don't tell me that you're gonna apply
the definition
on
only people because of how they look or
or because of their color, but you're not
gonna apply it on other people or on
governments. Actually, governments should be more responsible,
but governments are not responsible at all.
Many people who are by the way, you
know what I mean? I believe I believe
that there is no terrorism at all. There's
no terrorists. There's only
something worse than terrorists. There is politicians.
There
are more dangers than terrorists.
Some politicians are in office, and some are
not in office.
Those in office call politicians who are not
in office terrorists,
and maybe they are not.
Maybe both of them are.
Seeing someone like Candace Owens, a Christian, someone
who is one of the most,
on the conservative,
she just got fired from the Daily Wire.
To hear her come out like that, we
commend her. We really do. And I invite
her to come on the program so we
can have a nice discussion
and talk about those commonalities
and work together on the common good.
What what would you, say to, Candace Owens,
I mean, and others who are also
brave enough and seeing her now. And they
feel that inside. They know something's not right,
but it's her to come out brave enough
to go ahead and apologize
on behalf of the American people. This is
so brave.
This is so brave,
and and you started to see the truth
continue.
Searching for the truth is a journey, is
a very beautiful journey.
Don't think that you will be alone.
Even if people boycott you, you will not
be alone.
If you read this, you will never be
alone.
Because if you are backed by God,
who can be against you?
But if God is against you, who can
be backing you? No one.
If people wanna see more, you've produced, you're
the director of The Fog is Lifting. It's
a series, docuseries.
YouTube channel. This is not a gas station
I work for. It's the organization,
Bridges Foundation channel on YouTube, and there's a
lot of English playlist. There of course, you'll
find over 100 Arabic playlist,
but there are also
English playlist. Go to them and watch. One
of them is called the fog is lifting
documentaries.
3 documentaries that I made. One of them
is about women called
Islam in women, not women in Islam,
it's not a mistake.
And one of them is called Jihad on
terrorism.
1 of the speakers is is is one
of the lawyers who spoke in the ICJ
by the way, Philippe Sands.
And,
and one called Islam in brief which explains
Islam briefly in 77 minutes.
I wanna thank you. Thank you for spending
some time with us and clarifying
all of this. And we did not even
tackle the topic that we were supposed to
speak about today.
Next time, InshaAllah, God bless.
InshaAllah.
Thank you. Thank you very much, Shay. And
I wanna thank you guys for tuning in,
and we cleared that
misconception or the doubt that you try to
put out there. So, again,
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talking about how the Quran is so clear.
I just I loved the simplicity.
The the the Quran is so
clear.
And he was speaking highly of it.
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