I Called Mizz Nina & Noh Salleh!

Salaam Alaikum How are you? Good. You can hear me everything's good. Yes, very clear.

What's going on guys? Ah, well,

nothing might

have

been, you know, everyone's been going through COVID and

changes in life is trying to but so far I think it's been okay for us hamdulillah

so you guys, are you do some of the quarantine in Malaysia or no? Are you guys done? Oh yeah, we're kind of kind of done. It's not as strict as he used to be numbers are on the law. But

no, we're allowed to have events up to 200 people but there's a lot of like rules that we still need to follow like everybody is mandatory for everyone to wear masks outside and to keep social distancing. And yeah, just a normal stuff to wash hands but we still can't travel outside of Malaysia. Yet the house house America like in America is terrible.

We did such a bad job with the quarantine. I guess, you know, we didn't take it seriously. Well, I shouldn't say we because certain parts of the country they took it seriously. certain other parts they didn't. But because America is such a large place. It's really hard to get the whole country on board for something.

So yeah, we're not doing great right now. Some places like

some places and situations like really bad hamdallah Maryland where I live, it's actually not too bad. Like the governor of Maryland did like a really good job with the quarantine man mandating mass and all that kind of stuff, but certain other parts of the country but haven't Illa that's that's how, you know, we're we're making it through the law. So yeah, you know, I've only been watching what's been going on the news, so as to what's going on in the world. So yeah, it's just like, you know, things. I mean, I you know, looking at what America has been going through, there's a lot of stuff going on, like common, and then like, there was black lives matter. And then there was a now

this election going on. So I hope everything is going to be okay for everyone. inshallah. It's crazy, like, people are looking at America, and Americans are like, we're making die for you, you know, things are pretty crazy.

He's like, we're making die for other parts of the world, you know? Yeah, yeah, we got many things to be grateful for. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. And I think that's a good wake up call for Americans and, you know, specifically for American Muslims in America. Because for the most part, like life hair is very comfortable, you know, so we don't really experience what Muslims in other parts of the world experience. But now it's kind of like a wake up call. So from that sense of, you know, I think it's good. We've been taken out of our comfort zone even like, you know, the ability to worship Allah. And I think that's stopped by everyone in the quarantine. But we know for so long, we just took it

for granted. We're like, all go to the masjid when I have time, right? Or, like, you know, pray the next, you know, I'll play the next slot on the machine or the next day or whatever. And then a lot takes it away. And we're like, wow, I really teach it. Yeah, then we really appreciate it right when

snow was I was late for Juma. Right I woke up around 12. So I was supposed to leave the house to have to de enrich the masjid and in time for the queue and for the scanning for temperature whatever it is now like when I reached the masjid, everyone was like going back so everyone keep on doing this. When I was on my bike.

I went to Kenya he went to another Indian near the Petronas. Okay, so it was like everyone was like running going.

And I was like among the last person.

Wow.

Yeah, so so there's like a waiting list for Christmas just now are open in Malaysia. And there are only like, specific times for like, the the solid times and also for Juma and there's like very limited space for Joomla. So if you you make it and if you don't well, you know you don't Wow.

First come first serve. Yeah. Which is kind of good, right? Because usually, like, I don't know, people show up to gym I like last. Like I know, I've seen people cast the last

the last you know, and they're like, I got it. I got it. You know, I may have been at least a you know, that's still good. But now it's kind of like you know, we're we're missing it.

Yeah, we got the same situation here with our we don't have

Regular this in my area. The regular prayer is not open. We do have drama. We had aid, but it's very limited. Like, I think my mission is like 30 people for drama. And for Yeah, yeah. Because our you know, our messages are not that big. So you got to keep the six feet distance and all that. So you got to sign up ahead of time. And there's a list. It's so crazy.

Like, are you on the list? No, I get it, you know?

Yeah, but, but Safety Safety First, right. 100 is hamdulillah Elise. Elise is there at least is open. Right. hamdulillah

Yeah, you know everyone. Everyone has been there on Jeddah everywhere. Does you can enter the the disallow, like mini machine. Yeah. Yeah.

The least time to sell and then the muscle is close. So usually I would just be like, praying is like a random place. Yeah, no one likes to pray anywhere. He's He's like, okay, let's,

let's just pray this corner. You know, that's

adventurous. Oh, yeah. Michelle. I mean, in. In Malaysia, I'm sure that's cool. But in the States, you know, it's a totally different, it's totally different.

No, no, you don't get well. Depending on where you are in America. It depends certain places, maybe.

No, I mean, having to know is where I live is the most you guys like people looking and stuff. But even I think that's becoming more and more normalized. As you know, people become more educated by some but it's still it's still like, you know, it's like you feel like it's a blessing if there's like a place in a mall or somewhere to pray.

How has how has home life been? being at home so much?

Wait, hold on. Let me let me ask

you that.

I've made it.

Good.

Yeah, I remember what the last time you were in KL. I think I wasn't around you were here for one of your lectures. I think it was. It was it was difficult ration. Yeah. Yeah. I wasn't here and I think no took you out for something to eat. And you guys can use you guys. You came here to the house? Yes. Right. After that. I wasn't here. But um, yeah. Yeah, so you've been to the house. You know?

Is that weird? That sounds like you.

How's the voice? I got two boys. Yeah, two boys. Yeah, they're both good. They're both driving me crazy. But hamdulillah

it's good to spend time with them though. After a long time. I think my kids are at least late. He's older. He's not used to having me right here. He was used to having me around so much.

So it's nice that I'm home now but I'm just afraid that you know once things go back to you know me traveling, it's gonna be really difficult on him. You know, because now he's just gotten used to me being around so yeah, we'll see how it goes inshallah but he's getting older now. So I think I can take him with me on more trips. I want to bring him to Malaysia. I really want him to see Malaysia

the long trip he'll be fine.

Yes, yes, you should they should come here should be your family inshallah. inshallah. inshallah. Yeah, I think you know, my younger son, Sophia, and he's, he's one and a half. So I think once he's a little bit older, like that trip will be too long for him.

But once he's a little bit older, yeah, be cool. It'd be cool. Like, I love him. I love coming to Malaysia. So I'm sure the kids will really enjoy it. inshallah. Yeah, yeah. Really used to traveling, like, long hours journey. And suddenly you're like, talking to house? Yeah.

Initially, it was very nice, because I can get a break from traveling. And I've actually never enjoyed traveling. It's like part of what I do, and like, I accept it.

But I've never liked I just am not. I'm not a big traveler, even though it's like part of my job. So initially, it was nice to spend time at home. But then you reach a point where you're like, wait, like, that's part of that's, it's part of who I am. Like, it's my life, you know? So you're like, a part of me is missing. So that's, that's a little weird. And then, you know, I've been trying to explain too late like as he's getting older, he asked like, he's like, Dad, what do you do? Like, what do you do for a living? And I'm like, okay, I teach and I lecture and initially he like, he understood that. These days. He's been to any Oh, it says, like, Oh, I want to do what you do. So

he's so used to say like, Oh, I want to be a teacher.

Okay, hamdulillah so he came to me the other day he goes, Dad, I want to be a YouTuber. I'm like, What?

I'm like, hold on.

Like, your dad's not a YouTuber.

But hold on. Wait a minute. This is on YouTube. Right? Yeah. So that's the problem because you're a YouTuber. This is

like my talks on YouTube, right? And even like my luck, and he's like, Oh, yeah, I'm like, No, no, no, that's not, don't aspire to be a YouTuber like That's

right. But like, that's like a that's like, but it's your YouTubing but you're teaching on YouTube. So yeah. YouTubing is like, like, you're if you're a blogger, that's like, different. That's a different. Yeah. Yeah. But it's hard to explain that to him. Like the difference. Like, it's, it's like in his mind, like, you know, I'm like, No, but I don't, you know, my videos are different. And I'm not, you know, he won't understand in his mind. Everybody on YouTube is doing the same thing. So

that's okay. Then humble enough? Yeah.

Yeah, such a young age. Mashallah. No, but every day he has a new career in mind

is always changing. And it's usually like whatever he's into at that time, like, That's his new career. So what's the latest one? So the latest one is actually very strange. He came to me said, Dad, I want to be a police policeman. I'm like, I don't know if that's a good idea. Right.

Like, we'll revisit that when you get

myself motivated. Like he's like more very motivated to do something to be someone Mashallah, you know, kids, especially at this age, they're in a hurry to grow up, you know? So he's like, Dad, when when will I become a grown up? And I'm like, just relax, man, you got you got time, Mashallah. Like, there's no rush. And he's just in a hurry.

Because he's like, my life is so he in his mind, he's like, my life is so restricted right now. If I was a grown up, I could do so much more.

Yeah, just curious question would be, can I get married? I certainly.

But that will be much later. Yes.

I, honestly, I hope he asked me that. Like to me because he said, don't get married. I'd be like hunting did something right. And it's not like something else. Like, Hey, Dad, you know, there's this girl that I'm like, whoa, whoa.

Get to get the right. ask the right question. Like, can I get married rather than something else? Yeah, yeah. And inshallah, you know, like, I, you know, I mean, a lot only knows the future, right? But if he comes to me, and he's, you know, and I feel like he's responsible, and whatever, like, from my part, I'll do whatever I can to help him get married, you know, obviously, like, we're gonna go through all like the premarital counseling, and I'll do the counseling for him. And we invented a checklist, the compatibility checklists and all that stuff. And then once it's approved, then I'd be like, Yeah, I got you. I got you, like, help you get married. You know, if people do people come to

you guys for like, marriage help. Like, I mean, I'm looking, I want to get married. Can you help me get married? Do you? Can you guys get that question? No, no, no,

no, no, nobody asked me about marriage and stuff. But a lot of people like they've asked questions and vice versa. Yeah, like especially when, you know, when they're trying to get married or they're trying to get as their parents to, to to you know, they like someone and the parents don't like that person, but they still want to get married a lot of these like marriage issues, which I don't think I'm qualified to answer so I usually just kind of pass them on to like another dad who says who's who deals with like marriage issues, you know, but I feel like if you can get married, like just get married

you know, boohoo get in touch to Nina and ask questions. Usually the serious serious one

the silly boys like you know what?

It's time for me to go in no

right

it's been you know, this like, it's been what six months I think since the COVID outbreak and yeah, I think it's been such a huge blessing for us because you know, we're we've been so used to traveling and we're so busy with our own lives that we you know, we were forced to I think everybody probably felt this way like forced to slow down you know, and then spend more time with each other and even like during Ramadan like no was my Imam for throwing like Mashallah, it was a thing experience. apricot? Yeah.

You know,

Yeah, we did that we had that experience and we you know, it's like that that time we we spent alone at home and fasting and and were able to spend more time with the Quran I think that was such a huge blessing like I we've never had that kind of Ramadan one thing I feel I feel bad because the

prayer yeah I didn't give the

yeah

no you didn't you could just you just do the prayer at home

dads giving Goodbye my friend you have a new wire oh man I didn't get I didn't do it so I think the fact that we had to sit down and actually learn how to do prayer because we've never done it before ourselves a huge thing. So yeah, that was goes good humbler but maybe inshallah next year, you can do the goodbye if you have to do it at home.

Usually the government will like distribute the tech side.

Do you guys have that? You have an official Malaysian? Yeah.

It's like a big Masjid. They will regulate the bus. Yeah. The agenda, a government agenda?

Depends on what government Oh, yeah. It's kind of politicize. Yeah. So is it only for appraisers that like Juma as well? Every Juma? Right. Yeah, everything is not that.

Stupid. So I gave the hook but at the university, the sonic University. Oh, that wasn't regulated. I mean, yeah.

X ray is University. Oh,

yeah. Universities is usually like, you know, whatever. Okay. On speeches. Yeah. But if it's like a proper Majid like a huge one. Yeah, definitely. So is it the same quarter every in every machine? Different parts? stateside? Yeah, different states, different. Different mustard different cookbook, but if they do follow, like a regulation, like there's certain things that we have to mention, you know, just the company area, maybe the same, like klcc. Right. So the districts are the same. Like, yeah, kale will be the same among would be the same bunks are would be like the same. That's good. It's a panel like that. It's always so interesting, to go to Malaysia, and to see how like, you

know, Islam is practice there. And looks like the things that are you guys like they're, they're normal for you. But they're strange for us. And then the things that are strange for us, and then normal for you.

And it's really interesting, because we live in this world now where like everyone's connected.

You know, I think a lot of people listen to the same lectures, the same speakers. And so when certain topics come up, I'm always like, you know, how do people in a different area? How do they perceive like what's being said, like, even even when I'm talking, and I always think about this, when I go to Malaysia, especially the like, the first time I came, someone came up to me, and they said, you know, you said this or whatever, like, what did you mean by that? And I explained it to them, and they had no idea what I was talking about. Oh, and yeah, and then I was like, okay, so I guess it's just, there's not even an issue here. So, you know, like, coming from my perspective, I

may look at something and something's a big problem. And then maybe in Malaysia, it's not for certain issues that

Yeah, the culture. So do you find that when you listen to like, speakers from like, America? And like in UK? So do you find sometimes they're mentioning certain issues, or certain things that just don't apply to you? Or it's like, totally different? Well, sometimes, yes. But I think most of the time, the speakers would explain, like, what's going on? And if it's something that's current, and it's something that's big, usually we know about it, like, like, like, some of the big events or things like that, but sometimes in terms of lingo

it might be confusing for for some of us, you know, certain slang

but I think we've watched enough like humbler watch, you know, stuff as in progressional movies, and, you know, we watch a lot of lectures and stuff. So, so the, the language is okay. But, um, but yeah, you know, like certain things like, for example, when the Black Lives Matter happened, right, in America, I wasn't really sure how to respond to it, because I'm not there. I've never really, you know, experienced it and, and there was this whole issue of like, Oh, don't post all lives matter at that time, which is like my, I really understand it. I really, really didn't understand it until I had like a like one of my girlfriends. She's like, she's,

she's from the UK. She's black, African. And she explained to me why it's important not to say all lives matter at the time.

Because he wanted to hide the issue, so I was like, oh, okay, right. Okay, so I had I really needed somebody to explain to me, because I was using hashtag all lives matter.

No, don't do that. I'm like, Why? You know, but you know, I didn't know. I didn't know. Yeah. Things like that I think are really important to aim for us, especially from the other side of the world to try to understand like, why you know what's going on? So yeah, you know, because we want to be part of it. We want to, we want to be like, okay, we want to make, you know, especially now with like, canceled culture and stuff. You know, that's horrible. I really hate canceled culture. I'm sorry. It's terrible. Can you explain to know how canceled culture is Malaysia is huge on canceled culture, especially on Twitter. It's crazy. It's like the moment one person does something wrong. Maybe that

person really didn't do anything, but people think they did wrong. And that everybody will say, Okay, he's canceled. She's canceled. Oh, yeah. Yeah, like I care people can sue me.

But that's, that's good. That's the right attitude, I think. I mean, it doesn't really matter. Like, if, based on my experience, with hujan, you know, my band was like, one time everyone was like, big

condemn.

criticize. Yeah, I can sell at

one time was like this, like three headlines? Like,

are you how do you say?

Like, oh, like bashing up? Yeah. Because we didn't, we didn't really respond to the journalists really well, because we like so underground, like, thing that we are so rock and roll. But basically, we are not giving space to the media, which is that time was so treated like God, so called less than the industry was like, the media is God. So you have to like train them so that they can write good stuff for you. You know, I know we're gonna play the game now. Yeah. So three headlines. I remember for newspaper The three headlines was like, you know, this ban is not, you know, canceled. Yeah. So I'm so used to society bashing me up. So if somebody were to canceling me

now it's like, okay, you can do whatever you want.

Nothing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Unless, unless he if he was my parents, like my

family.

canceled my family. That's a whole nother

people in mirror like, Ah, right. Right. Yeah. So So yeah, that's a good point. Because if it's our own family members, and definitely we have to work things out. But if it's from like, public and stuff, it shouldn't really matter. But I think that it's really it's kind of like, unfair for people to do that to others. I think it's like, you know, it's, I don't know, I think they it's like, so superficial. It's like, people judging each other. And just because somebody looks a certain way, or does a certain thing, you know, they're like, Okay, so, you know, one minute, we're for you, and then then the next minute, we're not for you. So everyone's kind of just like this two phase kind of

thing that's going on. Right, like, like, so you can't really, you know, kind of just, you know, take it lightly, I think, you know, and then but really, I think everybody needs to be like educated about why it's important not to cancel out people. Yeah. Also, like, you know, you mentioned Twitter. The other thing I came to realize, especially like during the quarantine, especially the first couple months, I actually started spending more time like I was on Twitter more. And then I came to realize that for some people, their whole world is defined by Twitter. Right? So someone's canceled on Twitter in their mind, like they're canceled in the world. When Twitter is not the whole

world, please log off Twitter, and it's, there's a whole nother world out there. So that's, you know, that's that's the other thing like people, some people, their whole lives are just, they're just, it's just Twitter. Right? their reality is defined by Twitter. And it's dangerous, you know, so, like, just just gotta log off sometimes. Like, I always tell people like, What will your life be like, if you just like got rid of your social media? How do you perceive the world? And how would you well your relationships be like, and you know, what would your what would your faith be like, right? Yeah, yeah, I think everybody needs to have a like a social media detox once in a while.

Yeah, life would be more meaningful and we wouldn't be so addicted to the phone, you know, whether it's like Instagram or, or Facebook. But like, I haven't, I actually haven't done a social media detox. If you if I was good, I've never

done it. I've never done it. I've never done it. Yeah.

How long were you off? Like for a few days, three hours?

What are the apps that block the the locking apps? So I can't turn on Twitter, Facebook?

Like, how many hours? So So only on 9am until 8am? until nine for one hour? Yeah. Every day for one hour, that would be the social media time. So you'd have to post what you need to post. Yeah. And there's a special app that you can actually use to to program the timings of your posts. So yeah, we prepare them right then have so much time all the time. Yeah. So that was interesting. But then you didn't, then

the impact was good, right? Yeah. So I feel like, I don't really need that. Twitter and Facebook because I don't go Facebook and Twitter. Yeah.

So I pretty much quit. And, uh, once I was I deleted Twitter and Facebook, and then Oh, yeah. Because I did negativity is that vibe of? Yeah. It's like so much. I agree. So this the other way, doing it is by unfollowing. All those people. So only follow your share

one of your friends because people tend to speak their heart out in on Twitter. Yeah. And yeah, it's not sometimes necessary. Right. You know, a lot of times, most times it's not necessary. Yeah. In fact, you know, there's some people who are I'm kind of friends with, but I'm not friends with them online. Because I don't like what they post like them in real life. You know? Yeah, some people get offended. Like, you don't follow them. And they're like, why dare you?

Yeah, yeah. That's like, my, my, my Instagram, I don't follow anybody.

And it's not because there's people that don't want to follow. It's just that I do want to follow some people. But I know that the only way to, like, have people not be upset if I don't follow anyone. And it also keeps my feed clean, right?

So I've managed to do that on Instagram. And that's, it's good for me, because I'm in and out, right? I've logged on, post, whatever I need to post, and then I'm out. So I'm not going to be there scrolling, you know, looking at things for hours or whatever.

I think Twitter is the only social media where I will actually look like I follow a bunch of people. I look at their posts. I try to follow good people, you know, that'll help. Facebook same way I'm in and out. I just have my Facebook page. I don't even know what's happening on Facebook time. I can't deal with it. So I'm out. So that helps. That helps. And, and this other thing that I mentioned certain times, I think that's great as well, right? You have like this time of this time. If you can lock your phone or whatever, lock those apps have the law.

It's not we feel like it's hard. It's hard. But you know, I think that once you do it, you realize you can live without it. Yeah, you know, it's like come on, once you you're not eating for the day, like before Ramadan. I was like, oh, how am I gonna fast for so many hours or whatever. But once you do it, like it feels great. Yeah, it gets easier, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think that's a good note for us. I am that we should do a bit of a detox of social media. It needs to Yeah, me me. Me more, shall

be. Yeah, you know, I um, I don't know if you've seen this program is called like Maria Kondo. Somebody Kondo Marie Kondo. So she cleans up people's houses. Yeah. So this is a program where she goes, both houses and these families are basically the whole house is like, yeah, they're either hoarders or their whole house is like a huge mess. So she teaches how to declutter and to how to how to minimize and minimalize your house, and how to arrange things and fold things and put them in their place and everything needs to have like their own little space and home. So I've been doing hamdulillah this past few weeks.

Funnily enough, I didn't do it during lockdown. But now about like, I've started to do it like I bought more plants even notice, like getting into potted plants as well. It was a lot of new habits and hobbies that we've picked up over the past few months. So yeah, cleaning up has been actually it's been really therapeutic. I really enjoyed it. You know, yeah.

Yeah, me too. I love goddess. I was talking to her man, I'm not sure. We're talking about cleaning and stuff. And he was talking about how like he needs to do it right away. Like, if you see something, pick it up, put the dishes away. And I'm like, I'm the opposite of that. I like to see like a big change. So I'll like, let the mess pile up. And then I'll go crazy. And like, make it spotless, and like, I feel fulfilled. I'm like, Wow, look at what I accomplished.

Yeah, don't be discipline, your time you went for the end of the week.

I also

then my wife notices it more to you know, so like, if I'm just picking up things like it's

but if there's a big change you'd like wow, there's like a lot. Like, yeah.

So So yeah, this the effort, right. That's what counts. But I think I've been I've been like the the type of person that like piles up the stuff from before, like, I'll just like, leave things around. And when it gets really bad, I would clean it up. But now since I've cleaned up the whole house, I've kind of moved to you know, the whole like, Okay, once something's messy, I want to clean it up right away right away. Yeah, yeah. No.

Okay, fine. Room. Yes. The living room? Yes.

But the bedroom like in all the other rooms is can you turn the camera around so we can see. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.

Oh, by the way, I have all the helmets. But the ones that were that okay.

Say is the most safety helmet? One we've met? Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah. Did he tell you about this? No, no.

So he had this like collection of helmets. Mashallah. Very nice helmet. Sounds like Okay, try Ma and unlike a lot of them didn't fit in properly. So, I was like, dude, you can't wear these like, these are not.

I mean, they look.

They look good, but they're not. They're not safe. But that's good to it's good to hear that you are sticking with safer, safer helmets now. Because I'm building a Harley chopper. And I need the money.

Yeah, just collectibles. Yeah, no, I understand that. I've just these last couple years. I've been really into sneakers for some reason. Like, I don't know, I don't know why I got into sneakers. But I've just been, you know, collecting sneakers and going crazy with sneakers. And it's just like, like, why did I get into this hobby? Yeah, I know how you feel. Once you start. It's like, okay, what's the next one? You know? efficientline Ah, yeah, it's, you know, okay. So it was going well,

with with Corona, all the production stuff, you know, our stuff is being produced in Indonesia. Okay, good. And everything shut down for Corona. So we have two pieces that we were supposed to launch like, four months ago, five months ago.

Just Yeah, man. High. Virtual high five. I was supposed to release two weeks before he.

Yeah, but everything shut down. Yeah. So no, it will shut down. They produce the stuff. Yeah. It arrived. Like, you know, it's rasa. Oh, it was damaged? Yeah.

Yeah. Well, what are they doing the production everyone was in during MC Oh, so some stuff didn't go to work. And the boss, the bosses didn't do the QC. So yeah, like reject stuff. Okay, looks good to me, man.

Yeah,

there was something right. So, so since. So your stock is still the Indonesia? So are there any plans to have them reopening up and things you know, getting back to normal? Yeah. So last, last conversation I had with them where they said about two weeks, they should be done. I just don't want to post it online. Because people like who?

Follow like my clothing. They're always waiting. I feel like they're always waiting for this stuff around. I'm always like, oh, and shot lights coming. It's coming and then like I take years to release stuff. So now I'm like, I'm not going to post anything until I have the pieces in my hand. They're ready to ship out to people then I'll know we'll post online. Okay, now you can buy it. Yeah. How's how's your how's your clothing line? doing?

It's been a while that I, you know that I've done clothing I don't really I've, I've only basically come up with like a hijab collection. And that's like, you know, once a year she bought clothing not produced them.

Yeah, well, I was talking to boonah yesterday and we were having this discussion

about, like, what's going to happen after like, we get a vaccine or whatever. And we're like, either people are still going to be very cautious. And, and then part of me thinks like, the people who are just gonna go insane because they've been locked down for so long, and I got the vaccine out. Everybody's gonna be out.

Yeah, man, Japan. Yeah.

Like, maybe things will be safer. If inshallah the vaccine works, you know, so but I think, you know, because because we've been through, everyone's been through so much, I am sure there, there's gonna be like a population of people who will be more careful, you know, even already have the

plans and teaching, you know, like, what's your next online class? And like, yeah,

so automotive is right now where we're doing virtual seminars, which is basically the weekend seminar, but it's taught virtually, so it's, it's interesting. It's like a different experience. Like, there's a lot of technical issues that need to be worked out. So I'm teaching my first one at the end of the month, August 29. In Sweden, or in Sweden,

in Sweden, yeah, virtually in Sweden, so it's two days you know, inshallah, you know, we'll see how it goes. It's it'll be a new experience. So like my office now I've got like, all this random camera equipment and lights and like, things are going crazy, because I got to basically set everything up myself. Right, because the quarantine. Yeah, kept it from you. And I mean, successful and beneficial. I mean, I mean, I mean, oh, it's a fickle. Chilean 2.0 by the way. Oh, is it? Okay, yeah. So So can you pull like Malaysia and like all around the world register? Or is it just

I think, I think, I'm not sure. I think they give priority to people who are in that area, but I think they will accept students website and check it out in da Yeah. So I think though, is that org slash Sweden? Yeah. So I'm not 100% but I think so. So I updated the pickup children seminar, basically, I know you and I both of you took it in. In KL right? Yeah, I can like 2000 whatever, 14 or 13 whatever it was. That was 2014 I think Yeah. 14. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So so 2.0 2.0 Yeah, so basically just updating all the issues and bringing in like modern like more current issues and stuff related to entertainment. I hope you do more classes. If we can log on to Sweden then

hopefully, like another one. I got to talk to about the AMA then yeah, yeah, for sure to know right, inshallah. Yeah, inshallah, inshallah that'd be good luck, guys. I really appreciate you guys taking some time out. I love I love doing these because you know, I get to catch up with everyone. And I just want to people I see you know, I just want to call it my friends see how they're doing. And then yeah, hopefully other people can can benefit as well. Michelle, it's an honor to actually have a chat with you Mashallah,

you know,

inside the whatsapp group

Yeah. It's nice to see the face you know, an expression boy, Mashallah, please send our lamps to your wife, right? I will. I will. Oh, and

the kids