Nasser Hospital To Biden Walkout – Gaza Diaries with Dr. Thaer Ahmad

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AI: Summary © The speaker discusses their experience working in a closely watched television network and the devastating consequences of recent attacks on their town. They emphasize the importance of faith and staying resilient, pray for others, and emphasize the need for people to be empowered to bring healing to their country. They also emphasize the need for people to be nurtured and educate about suffering, particularly in regards to the invasion of their country.
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Have been obviously following your work from Gaza.

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You are Palestinian American

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from Chicago

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ER doctor, Alhamdulillah. You've been to Gaza multiple

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times

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with MetGlobal. First of all, may Allah Subhana

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Wa Ta'ala reward you for answering the call,

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to go there multiple times and to work

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there. May Allah Subhana Wa Ta'ala reward you

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for your efforts. May Allah Subhana Wa Ta'ala

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accept all of the healing that you brought

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and all of the awareness that you brought

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as well. And, keep you under his protection,

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Allana Ameen.

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Walk me through,

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you get a phone call

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that gives you an opportunity to go to

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Gaza in the middle of a genocide.

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Yeah. How do you kind of process that

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on an emotional, spiritual, mental level? Well, I

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I mean, I think from our perspective, all

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of us here, we're thinking about what can

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we do. And we've been thinking about that

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since October.

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And so, we were looking into how can

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we get in. You know, SubhanAllah, there was

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a actual planned

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trip to Gaza October 22nd.

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But, of course, after October 7th it just

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got totally scrapped. Nobody was getting into Gaza.

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None of these organizations that usually bring in

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delegations or teams for anything were getting in.

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And, we heard at the end of December

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at the end of December that there might

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be a chance that we could get in

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and,

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I remember texting, doctor Zehr, who's the founder

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of MedGlobe, and I said, if there's any

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chance

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I'm going to be on that trip.

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And, he said, of course, he understood just

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how, you know, emotional everybody was with seize

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the

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seize the opportunity to kind of show up

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and, subhanAllah, just have the opportunity to be

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able to go into Gaza as a physician,

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and that's what they needed at that time.

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But, of course, as, you know,

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things move along and there's more requirements, I'm

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sure everybody will feel the same way. Everybody's

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gonna wanna step up, and I think that's

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I always say this, but I think Gaza

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changed all of us. As Ghazah let us

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realize the nama and the barakah that we're

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living in. I mean, just being able to

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wake up in your bed every single day,

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you think about the fact that people who

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look like us, who talk like us, that

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they're not able to do so. I'm able

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to jump in the shower.

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I think we think about that a lot

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more now given what's happened in Gaza.

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For me that's that's really all that factored

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into the decision. I felt that, you know,

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Allah

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gave us this opportunity to be comfortable here

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and that our voice can maybe be amplified.

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And what better way than to go there,

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bear witness to what's going on. And then,

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if I'm lucky enough to be able to

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get out to share that with everybody that

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wants to know what's happening on the ground.

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Why, Monica? When was the last time you've

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been to Gaza prior to this one? It

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was in March prior to October.

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Yeah. That's how it works. It was in

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March. I was at Shifa Hospital.

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I know the Shabaab there

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very well. Great people

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that I talk to regularly.

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They're so thirsty for knowledge. They're always asking,

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you know, what else can they learn? What

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else can they use? And so

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very very good relationship with them and, I,

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you know, ever since I had met them

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probably 2 years ago, I made it a

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habit to try to consistently go back.

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Alhamdulillah,

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so when October hit like I'm sure like

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a lot

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of those images of the things you'd already

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seen in Laza were fresh, right? And Yes.

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You were thinking about this. Can you kind

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of talk to us about that, like when

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the bombing started in October?

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Yeah.

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I mean,

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it's really tough because Gaza is beautiful.

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I mean, it's amazing. The coastline is

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incredible. I mean, the scenery there is amazing.

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It's a tough place to live. I mean,

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there's make no mistake about it. Right? I

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mean, there's a siege that's been there for

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17 years,

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but the people, the life, you know, they

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call it the harakah, the the movement that's

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there. It's it's enchanting. It's, you know, mesmerizing.

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People are

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incredible to be around.

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And

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when you just watch that place get leveled

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the way that it was since October, every

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single day, a new block is being taken

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out, a new block is being destroyed.

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You start to think about, you know, these

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beautiful areas that are that's that's gone. The

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memories of the people that are there. You

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know, I

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all that we have left is our misery.

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Like, even our memories they've tried to destroy

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that by taking away the structures that were

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there You know, just being on the beach,

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being able to look at the Mediterranean coast,

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now that area has become a death zone.

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You can't even walk up and down the

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beach anymore.

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And, you know, it's really tough because it

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takes so long

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to build up the infrastructure in Gaza because

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of the siege, because of the blockade.

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And to just watch it

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be reduced to rubble within seconds by 2,000

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pound bombs, it's a struggle. I mean,

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you know, you really you feel you feel

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helpless in that moment. You're trying to think,

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you know, what are we supposed to do

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now? How do we pick it back up?

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And then instead of being able to focus

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on that, it's another

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devastating

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destruction somewhere. It's another block that's taken out.

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Is there anyone that passed away early on

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before you got back? Yeah. I,

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knew a couple of the doctors actually. You

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know, there's been,

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400 doctors that have been killed, 400 healthcare

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workers since this started.

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And there was one particular guy who attended

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one of the sessions where I did a

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training for.

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You know, we got this portable ultrasound machine,

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so you can just plug it into a

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phone, into an iPad, and I remember the

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doctors and Aza were they were so excited

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about that. Like we're gonna use this, we're

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gonna, you know, be able to kind of

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implement this, and one of the doctors who

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attended the very first training sessions and he

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would always text and check up on me.

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He would always say, you know,

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how are you doing doctor? How's everything going?

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I didn't even realize this until I went

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that he had died and this sort of

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the tragedy is I had showed up to

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a Nassar hospital and I had recognized some

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of the guys from Shifa

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And

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this is a bizarre thing to do, but

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I started going through the pictures of the

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guys I had met before and asked if

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they were still alive,

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the other doctors. You know? And then you

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come up and you're, like, you know, Bil

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Asafistashat,

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this person

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was a martyr, you know, and so,

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that's kind of just how tragic things are

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in Gaza, and, you know, it's a it's

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a challenge and that's the other thing I

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think many of us who have

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friends in Gaza or even family,

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it's bizarre you're sending messages,

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You know? Are you okay? And you're hoping

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that it gets delivered on WhatsApp, and then

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you're hoping that there's a response.

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And then after there's a response, you don't

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know what to say. Right? Like,

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making dua for them trying to say I

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hope Allah

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protects you, but,

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what else can I offer? You know, I

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think that it goes back to your first

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question. It's factored into why I felt like

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I, you know, I wanted to go and

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I know

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everybody in the community feels the same way.

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Yeah. I figured, subhanAllah, and like that thing

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about like

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scrolling pictures and like is this person still

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alive? Is this person still alive? Like,

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this genocide is unfolding on everyone's screen and

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so when someone who's been reporting from the

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ground suddenly stops reporting for a few days

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Right. Everyone's thinking, have they been martyred?

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And it almost like it takes me on

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a personal level to like Jannah, where people

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are asking about each other. Right? Where you're

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kind of looking around like, hey, where's this

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person, where's this person? Like, and SubhanAllah you

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wonder,

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you

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know, hopefully Elijah gives us that opportunity

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to ask about these names and Yeah. To

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go find these people in Jannah and to

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rejoice with them once again within Aitan. That's

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the hope, right? That's the shahada part. Yeah.

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That martyrdom.

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People who reduce Islam to a death cult

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don't understand that. We just believe in life

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in a way that they just cannot grasp.

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And the people of Gaza have that belief

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more than anything else. Kinda talk about that,

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like that concept of like, hey,

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we know we're gonna die but we know

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that there's something after death. Like, how did

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you kind of experience that for yourself and

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for other people when you were there? I

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mean, the first day that I showed up

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to Nasr Hospital, it reminds me of the

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very first patient that I had seen that

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had been killed.

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And it was somebody who had been injured

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in the airstrike, 22 year old, 23 year

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old, and he was brought in by his

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mom, his dad, and his siblings.

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And I remember because,

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I had just shown up. I had put

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my bags in the room. I was gonna

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be sleeping at the hospital.

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And I remember because

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the when we walk in, he had lost

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the pulse and so they were doing CPR

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on this person. You know, they were doing

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chest compressions,

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and he was on the floor of the

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emergency department. And I didn't recognize that his

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family was there to begin with. So I

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just kind of got on my knees. I

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was trying to help the doctor. His name

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is doctor Majdi,

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very young brilliant,

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physician.

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But subhanallah, I mean, that was, you know,

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that was his time. And, you know, he

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met his maker,

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and I remember kind of being shocked that

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it had happened so quickly. 1st day, I

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mean first 5 minutes.

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And doctor Majdi gets up and he looks

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at the guy's father and he said, you

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know,

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His last words were

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And then the dad said, which that's

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was very overwhelming for me, but he looked

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at him and he said Amana?

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Like Amana, those were his last words. Like

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that was one of the most comforting things

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you could say

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to the father of a martyr, to the

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father of the shahid, of the his son

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who had just been killed. He said, Amana,

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promise me that you're telling the truth. He

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said those were his last words. He said

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those were his last words.

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And he turned around to his siblings and

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to his wife

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and he said, you know, that was that's,

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you know, like he was comforting them and

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then they picked him up

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in the blanket that they brought him in

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from their house and they went to go

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bury their son.

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And, you know, right away you start realizing

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that,

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the people in Gaza,

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the way that they've perceived everything, they look

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at that hardship is different because

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I'd have to be honest with myself. Could

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I could I have that sort of patience

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in that moment?

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On the emergency department floor looking at my

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son,

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you know, essentially

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die, pass away,

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am I gonna have that moment to reflect

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and be able to take comfort?

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You have to have that belief in the

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afterlife. I mean, you have to believe there's

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a ekhir. If you don't you're not going

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to be comforted by that's your your son's

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last words. And for me it made me

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really start to think about, you know, all

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of what's been going on in Gaza,

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how people have been processing it and I

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realized that when you have strong faith like

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that, when you have the iman like that

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you get the resilience of Gaza.

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Because,

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you know, I think we've been a lot

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of a lot of people have been around

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tragedy. They've had personal loss. They've been through

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their own struggles.

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And, you know, this is an entire

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community of people that is dealing with an

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in what seems like an insurmountable struggle. But

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how do they stay so resilient?

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And the only answer is their faith.

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And, you get inspired by that. In a

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moment of

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sorrow and tragedy,

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something inside of you clicks. I mean, something

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inside of me was, you know, was coming

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alive when you're watching that and so it

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makes you wanna do better, makes you wanna

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work harder, makes you wanna figure out solutions

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for things and I mean I'll never forget

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that moment. So what is like the difference

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between, you're an ER doctor,

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An ER in Chicago,

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an ER in Gaza. Yeah.

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Give me that contrast.

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I mean,

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I want you to I want to paint

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the picture for you a little bit. You

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know, I work at a trauma center in

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Chicago,

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a very busy place. We've got all of

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the specialties, we've got all of the tools,

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all of the tricks are up our sleeve.

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You know, we've got private rooms. We've got

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every single patient has a has a patient

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bed, has a private room that they can

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stay in.

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In Gaza,

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it's huddled masses.

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Many people are on the floor. Imagine just

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a concrete floor bloodstained,

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muddy too because you're walking back and forth.

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That's where people are have to seek care.

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But I'll say one thing.

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And this

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is,

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this is it's going to sound weird. But

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the respect for dignity

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in Gaza

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was

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I've never seen anything like that in the

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United States. I was in Detroit, in Chicago.

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If somebody's belly was exposed in the process

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of us carrying them to a CT scanner

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or putting them on the floor,

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a nurse, a doctor was grabbing a sheet

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to cover them. You know? If there is

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an elderly person that comes in that's sick,

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a young person who's injured or has a,

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you know, has all these different tubes and

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lines inside of them, He's getting up off

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of the bed to give it to the

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elderly person. You know, I mean,

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the grandma who was shot by a drone

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paralyzed from the waist down,

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everybody's calling her mama,

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you know, even you're not related to her,

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but she's she's mama, she's, you know, she's

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your mother. That's how they're all treating each

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other there. I mean,

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despite it literally being out of stock from

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any medication, any anesthetics, no space in the

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hospital at all. We're talking about 10,000 people

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were sheltering inside the hospital and outside the

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perimeter there. No space.

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There's still

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incredible amount of protection of dignity and respect.

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I don't see that in the states. And

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I just feel like, you know, they deserve

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all of the tools that I have in

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Chicago. They deserve the nice fancy private room,

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the clean CT scanner to be able to

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have a private suite if they get you

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know, they deserve that. But,

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the situation right now is it was it

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was overwhelming for me. You know? I was

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I think I was useless the first the

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first day that I was there and if

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it really wasn't for my colleagues, my fellow

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Stini colleagues there,

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I think I would have been an additional

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burden on them. They had to show me

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the ropes. I had to hold my hand

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for the first thing and just see like,

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this is what we do in this situation,

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this is what we do here. So

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I I owe them everything for that. I

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would have done nothing if it wasn't for

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them.

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Tell me about your first, like, if you

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don't mind, if it's not getting too personal,

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like your first like real faith realization when

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you were there like salah or Yeah. Something

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that clicked with you that

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maybe hadn't clicked before

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like about

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Ibada,

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a connection to Allah Subhanahu wa ta'ala. Subhanahu

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wa ta'ala. Subhanahu wa ta'ala. You know,

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and, you know, I'm not trying to say

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anything about Muslims in the United States or

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Muslims anywhere else. I just wanna kinda highlight

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and amplify

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our brothers and sisters in Gaza. But, you

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know, every single person there when it's time

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for salah is praying,

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every single person and they're praying anywhere, You

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know, the I remember in the ICU,

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that the ICU doctor and one of his

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nurses stepped out into the hallway to pray

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buhrer.

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You know, and they've got their sejeda, they've

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got their carpet that they're laying down. Nobody's

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missing salah over there. In fact, they asked

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me,

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one time they said, you know, I noticed

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you're they you're combining prayers.

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And they're like, you know, you're home now,

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so you don't need to combine your prayers

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anymore. You know? And I said, well, yeah,

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but I'm still living out of a suitcase.

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You know, I was giving an excuse to

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make it easy on myself. And then just

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to make me feel better, they were like,

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oh, what about the Nazeh, the displaced person?

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Can he combine their pair of suit just

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to kinda make me feel better? And so,

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I mean that's, yeah, that's the thing is,

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I remember because Salat al Jum'ah

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basically had to be canceled in Khan Yunus

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for a couple of weeks because of the

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intense campaign. I mean, they were literally targeting

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the masajid. You know, there was they made

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sure that there was no masjid still standing.

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And I remember them talking about just wanting

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to have that jumah back, to have salatuljumah

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back, to be able to go. And you

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you see videos. I mean, the second they

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got a chance to do so on rafa,

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they did hutbatuljumah

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and they were able to have a khutba'

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and they were able to have a salah

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even though they was on top of rubble.

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I mean, I think they take,

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the deen,

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not how do I say they take it

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very seriously? I mean, I think it's just

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a part of their life. I mean, it's

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just part and parcel for what they do.

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They all are talking about when Ramadan comes,

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they're all talking about being able to go

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and make Hajj. And for a place like

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Gaza, everybody wants to be able to make

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Hajj. I mean, you can barely get out

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to go to Egypt. You know? It's just

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incredible how it's a part of their vernacular.

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A part of their everyday life. They're talking

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about, you know, what's halal and what's haram

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and,

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they look at it in a way where

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they they wanna do the best and they're

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all like, you know, there's not a lot

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of putting down of each other either which

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is incredible. There's not a lot of wagging

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their finger or condescension.

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It's, you know, everybody's

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the the idea of brotherhood,

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I felt it there. You know, this that

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truly, you know,

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I mean, it's like these guys believe that

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and they practice that, you know. The believers

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are brothers. The believers are brothers. Yeah.

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If there was one story,

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one person who you feel like fundamentally changed

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you, like one incident or one person, what

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would you what would you share with us?

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There's plenty of them but there's one that

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I always mention because it really got me.

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I mean it really corrected me in a

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way that you know, I needed that lesson.

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I needed that reminder.

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Every single night

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at Nassar Hospital, the nurses from the ICU

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would knock on the door where I was

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sleeping, And they say, we're gonna have dinner

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together.

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And you have to keep in mind this

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is Gaza. So everybody's dependent on the meals

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that are being distributed.

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And it's really just a can of beans,

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some tamil, some dates.

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And,

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you get a bottle of water and sometimes

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there's some bread.

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And so, there's not a lot to go

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around, but they wanted to invite me to

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make sure that I had dinner with them.

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They said we have to You're a guest

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and we have to obviously,

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you know, treat the guest well. And we

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were sitting there and they're all combining their

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stuff and they would insist that I eat

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first and that I eat to until I'm

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full. You know, they would not sit down

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until I ate till I was full,

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but I remember sitting and talking to a

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nurse whose house had been destroyed in Rafah.

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They had a farmland. It was him, his

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father, his brother, their families, their kids, and

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it just totally destroyed. And he lost his

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brother's family.

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And he actually was

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rescued from the rubble. He was showing me

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a video of himself kind of the rubble

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on his face and his kids and he

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was trying to make a joke about it

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just saying like look I look so, you

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know, look how disgruntled I look. I was

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so nervous, but Allah, got me out of

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this. Then he said this line to me.

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He said, you know, Allah

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really was teaching us how to be better.

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He said before the war,

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he said I was complaining that I was

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only getting 60% of my salary.

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He said, before the war I was complaining

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that I can only go from the North

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to the South.

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Before the war, I was saying, we don't

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have a lot of different restaurants, it's always

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the same food over and over again. Before

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the war

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I was complaining about the water, and before

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the war I was complaining about 12 hours

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of electricity because Gaza operates at a energy

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deficit.

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He said after the war I have 0%

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of my salary. So, I've got no food,

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no water. He goes I can't even go

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to the north of Gaza anymore, I can

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only stay in Khan Yun and San Mafaa.

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And he goes we have no electricity now.

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So the day that this war is over,

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every single day I'm gonna say Alhamdulillah.

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I'm gonna appreciate the barakah that I live

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in. I mean, this was in January. You

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know, I

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was I was really stunned by that. I

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mean, that moved me so much that he

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twisted it in that direction where he realized

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this is an opportunity to better himself.

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You know, I think it's pretty easy and

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I was doing this to say,

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look how terrible it is. Excuse me. It's

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terrible. It's just so sad. So sad. Oh,

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look, you know, woe is me kind of

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mentality.

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And he really just corrected it in that

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moment. I mean, I'll never forget that he

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just kinda had that position.

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And, you know, he did it with grace

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too and humility. He's not sitting there lecturing

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anybody, he's just telling you this is my

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this is what I'm gonna start doing and

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you're like I wanna be like that. Subhana.

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So it really puts in a perspective that

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it's not about the world around you. It's

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about how you see the world around you.

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And if you have that gratitude to Allah

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Subh'anaHu Wa Ta A'la, then even an open

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air prison can seem like a paradise. Yes,

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ma'am. And even in the midst of a

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genocide, you can see rays of hope and

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you can see a Jannah that awaits you.

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Yes, ma'am. So Allah Subh'anaHu Wa Ta A'la

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choose you as a martyr

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in that. And Lord Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala make

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it easy for our brothers and sisters and

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grant them victory. Amen. I mean,

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before we get into the Biden thing, I

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just wanna mention one more thing, you're actually,

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Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala,

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You're from

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Chicago

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particularly,

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Bridgeview

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where,

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young boy, little Palestine and the little Palestinian

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boy was murdered very early on, Wadhir Fayyumi

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Rahimullah.

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May Allah Subh'anaHu Wa Ta A'la make it

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easy for his family. Ami. Was murdered just

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within a couple of weeks of everything happening.

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I remember attending that Janazah and thinking to

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myself like man I wish I could

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I wish I could be in Gaza right

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now. And,

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I'm wondering like what were your emotions kind

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of being in a community where a young

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Palestinian boy was martyred

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for being a Palestinian.

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Yeah. And how that kind of factored into

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everything if it did at all for you.

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I mean we were reeling. I mean I

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you you were there, you saw an entire

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community was was grieving and it was across

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the United States. It wasn't just Bridgeview. Right?

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I mean, everybody

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was mourning,

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you know, a 6 year old. And it

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it really felt like, you know, for us

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as Palestinians,

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as Muslims too,

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it's like, you know, people don't think that

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we're human.

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It was like that whole dehumanization

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campaign, like, the fact that somebody could bring

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themselves to stab a 6 year old that

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many times. I'm an ER doctor. We see

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stab wounds. I just the thought of sort

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of that trauma and that pain, I couldn't

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shake it. Obviously, I'm a father as well

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and you're just thinking that, you know, I

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don't think,

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we're given that same sort of,

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you know, that same sort of

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I don't know. Is it dignity by other

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people and so it's from

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my perspective, I mean,

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it shook me in a way that made

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me realize that

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no one's gonna sort of help us or

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no one's gonna give us, you know, no

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one's gonna extend their hand, especially in that

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moment. It seemed like

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the entire world was against Gaza, the entire

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world was against Palestinians,

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And for me it was, okay, we're gonna

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have to do something ourselves.

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We're gonna, you know, that whole idea of

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pick yourself up by your bootstraps is like,

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you know, all we have is Allah Subhanahu

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Wa Ta'ala.

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Like, and you hear that all the time.

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You hear that all the time.

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And so and it's just, you know, I

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think something that came out of Wadhir's

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murder, that tragedy was, you know, realizing that

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it was it was on us to sort

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of do this. Not to look to anybody

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else for help. Not to look for it

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to any other human being. Just sort of,

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you know, be prepared for this long haul.

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There's going to be a struggle here.

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You know, it's still I think it's still

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pretty shocking but there's been so many incidents

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too that have kind of afterwards where you're

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just

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you we continue to grieve and we continue

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to mourn, but it's just more reminders about,

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I think our status. I mean, I think

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about those kids in,

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in New Haven or I think it was

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in Connecticut, the 3 Palestinian kids. Raleigh, North

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Carolina. Oh, yeah. The oh, yeah. Raleigh, North

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I forgot about that. Yeah.

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Raleigh, North Carolina. Yeah. You're just like, this

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is the series of attempts. You're like, wow.

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You know, there's there's a lot of people

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working against us and there's a lot of

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people who wanna paint us in a certain

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light and,

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I think it's on each and every one

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of us to kind of fight that and

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fight that in our own way. Alright. Yeah.

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Yes, sir. Awesome.

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Make it easy for their families. Obviously, they're

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from a sham and our 3 winners, but

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they were murdered.

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Yeah. And, may Allah accept them as well.

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Yeah. SubhanAllah, it's been years. Yeah. And,

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we move on. Yeah. The families don't move

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on. No. Right? It's something that

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I think is very important. Like, we're gonna

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be coming up on a decade of that

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at some point very soon, you know?

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May Allah make it easy for them and

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for all of For the mother of Wadiya.

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Amen.

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The family of Wadiya. The mother's inspiring woman

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by the way, SubhanAllah, and like she went

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through a lot. She's an inspiring woman. Wow.

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Like I was really really shocked and and

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I think that's,

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that idea of being nurtured in something different.

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Everything that you just said could be summarized

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in Hasbun Alloa nebulukit. The first thing I

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heard from Wadhir's mom was Hasbun Alloa nebulukit.

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Hasbullah Nirmala Waqith. The first thing you hear

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from everyone of us is Hasbullah Nirmala Waqith.

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Amazing. It's

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La'illaha illallah manifested

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in your deepest moment of tragedy, right? And

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they've been able to do that consistently.

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And we ask Allah Subhana Wa Ta'la to

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give us that tawfeeq to be able to

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have the same type of orientation.

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So I'm gonna come to sort of what

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got you in the headlines recently,

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but it's important and, first of all on

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behalf of, I I think many of us,

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DazaqAllahu Hayra, my God, I reward you for

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doing that.

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I think a lot of us have probably

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visualized,

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you know, walking out on the president the

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way that you did.

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We've obviously been chanting in front of the

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White House,

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but not in the White House. Right.

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You know and,

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just tell us about the meeting then, maybe

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a little bit more than what you shared,

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you've already been, Rochelle, on CNN, CBS and

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some different things. But like, just tell tell

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us like how did you get invited? When

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you got there? Did you already have the

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intention? It seems like you already kinda planned

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Yeah. It was to walk out so just

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walk us through it. Yeah. I mean it

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was it was, the week

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leading up to it really kind of solidified

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my decision. I mean we get an I

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we get a phone call saying,

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you know, we want to make sure that

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this year we don't do this big Ramadan

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fest and we want to do a working

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dinner with the President of the United States.

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And I was told that I would be

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the 1st person who would brief him

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about Gaza

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who had actually been on the ground after

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October 7th.

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And there would be other medical professionals there

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and other Muslim leaders there and I had

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already known how the broader Muslim community felt

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about engaging

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with the President at this time. I mean

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it was clear like, you know, we don't

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wanna do that. We don't wanna sort of

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tokenize ourselves.

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We don't wanna put ourselves in a position

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where we're gonna try to say something but

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we're not listened to and it just becomes

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like we're sort of white washing everything that's

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happened over 6 months. The photo op that

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was coming right now. Yeah. Exactly. You you

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and Biden and then Exactly. The tweet dot

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Right. Exactly. So yeah. From heroic heroic doctor

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from Gaza. Yeah. Thank you for coming and

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sharing your experience and thank you for supporting

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me, you know, kind of thing. But,

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we, you know, I I definitely was very

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concerned and I'm still very concerned about Rafah,

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having been there. 1,700,000

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people,

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intense. They're talking about a ground invasion. So

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that for me has been something that I've

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been panicking about over the past couple of

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weeks. And so I really wanted to get

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that message out there.

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But then you heard about

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weapons approval, fighter jets being sold, you heard

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about

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undermining the UN Security Council resolution calling for

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a ceasefire by saying, oh, it's not binding.

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I mean everything that indicated that this meeting

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is not serious. I mean, I'm not going

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to sit there

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and while

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literally all of the pain and suffering is

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going on and there may be a

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catastrophic event that takes place with respect to

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Rafa. I'm not gonna just sit there and,

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you know,

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sort of be played in

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kind of talking in Chicago terms. But I

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really, you know, I I wanted to do

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something. I mean, I was so angry. I'm

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so resentful about everything that's been going

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on. And so we went to the White

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House and, you know, you kind of walk

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through and,

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we waited in the room and they said,

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you know, the President should be arriving any

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moment. And then, you just kind of see

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different members of his staff and it's the

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President and the Vice President.

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He kind of walks around,

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sits down,

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and I remember, you know, he's saying, okay.

00:27:18--> 00:27:20

Well, you know, kind of let's get started.

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You know, we've been working on this a

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lot, he said. And I said, and I

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just thought about what that meant actually, you

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know, working on this a lot with respect

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to Gaza.

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He said,

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this is a listening session, you know, I

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hope you guys can trust that we know

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a little bit about what's going on too.

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And I, you know, for me I was

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I could feel it building up, like, I

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gotta stay calm. You just deliver the message

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that you want to deliver, that Rafa has

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to be off limits because of all of

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the human beings that are there.

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And that, you know, it's not just about

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stopping an invasion or a ceasefire.

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There needs to be some help for the

00:27:51--> 00:27:53

people that are there with respect to water,

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to even blankets. How how are they gonna

00:27:55--> 00:27:57

rebuild their homes again? Like that needs to

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be in the calculation here moving forward. We

00:28:00--> 00:28:02

need to help the people in Gaza rebuild

00:28:02--> 00:28:03

everything that was destroyed.

00:28:04--> 00:28:05

And then finally, I wanted to give him

00:28:05--> 00:28:07

a letter from Hadil, an 8 year old

00:28:07--> 00:28:09

orphan in Gaza in Rafah

00:28:10--> 00:28:12

in a tent who lost her family. She

00:28:12--> 00:28:13

lost her uncles and her father. She's an

00:28:13--> 00:28:14

orphan.

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And, I was like I'm I have to

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do this. I mean, if I have any

00:28:18--> 00:28:19

respect for myself,

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I gotta I have to actually make this

00:28:22--> 00:28:23

statement. I should get up and walk away.

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Not gonna throw anything around. I'm not gonna

00:28:26--> 00:28:28

kick the chair. I'm not gonna yell, you

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know, I just want the message to be

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clear, like, I'm doing this because of the

00:28:31--> 00:28:33

pain and the hurt and I want you

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to feel that. I want you to see

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that.

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And I knew that there would be people

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in the room that would also still be

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able to communicate

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the messages, you know, that that we that

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we wanna get out there. You know, the

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the idea of the humanitarian crisis and the

00:28:46--> 00:28:47

famine and the malnutrition.

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So I I wanted I just wanted people

00:28:49--> 00:28:51

to feel like they got a chance to

00:28:51--> 00:28:53

tell the president, like, we're not happy with

00:28:53--> 00:28:55

this. We're gonna walk away from you. We're

00:28:55--> 00:28:56

walking away from this table. You need to

00:28:56--> 00:28:58

do something that needs to be concrete steps.

00:28:59--> 00:29:01

And, I got that opportunity and,

00:29:01--> 00:29:03

you know, people ask me,

00:29:04--> 00:29:04

were you

00:29:05--> 00:29:08

nervous at all? And honestly, I was not.

00:29:08--> 00:29:09

I I was I was just I'm not

00:29:09--> 00:29:12

nervous because I'm not doing anything special. Really,

00:29:12--> 00:29:14

I'm getting up and walking, I have the

00:29:14--> 00:29:15

ability to walk, I can walk outside of

00:29:15--> 00:29:16

a door.

00:29:16--> 00:29:18

But for me it's more about can we

00:29:18--> 00:29:19

use this moment

00:29:20--> 00:29:22

to translate into change? If that happens then

00:29:22--> 00:29:24

I'll be incredibly happy. But until that that's

00:29:24--> 00:29:26

the case, you know, I think all of

00:29:26--> 00:29:28

us are in that mode where what what's

00:29:28--> 00:29:30

the next what's the next step here? What

00:29:30--> 00:29:32

can we do to bring some attention, to

00:29:32--> 00:29:33

put some faces on the people that are

00:29:33--> 00:29:35

there, and to get the massacres to stop.

00:29:35--> 00:29:37

And I I know everybody feels the same.

00:29:37--> 00:29:38

So let me ask you like a deeper

00:29:38--> 00:29:39

question.

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Did you feel like when you were speaking

00:29:41--> 00:29:43

you were getting through to anybody else in

00:29:43--> 00:29:43

the room?

00:29:44--> 00:29:45

Did you feel like, I mean like you

00:29:45--> 00:29:48

can read sentiments. Yeah. You're an emotionally intelligent

00:29:48--> 00:29:50

like guy, like you can probably feel like

00:29:50--> 00:29:52

what's going on in the room, right? Right.

00:29:52--> 00:29:54

Who's, did you, did you feel like staffers

00:29:54--> 00:29:56

or like people are like kind of like,

00:29:56--> 00:29:57

were you getting a sense like man, like

00:29:57--> 00:30:00

this is disgusting, like we're doing this, right,

00:30:00--> 00:30:01

you're literally it's Kadin Ma'at Haqqara in this

00:30:01--> 00:30:03

Sultanate just started speaking it right in his

00:30:03--> 00:30:04

face, right, and like you got a lot

00:30:04--> 00:30:05

of people around him and we know like

00:30:06--> 00:30:07

staffers and

00:30:07--> 00:30:09

there's a lot going on in there, right?

00:30:09--> 00:30:11

So did you feel like your message was

00:30:11--> 00:30:14

actually getting across to anyone like making their

00:30:14--> 00:30:16

stomachs turn a bit, maybe their hearts? I

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I think they felt the tension. I mean

00:30:17--> 00:30:19

I think they felt also in my voice

00:30:19--> 00:30:21

the urgency. I mean

00:30:21--> 00:30:23

when we talk about Gaza now we can

00:30:23--> 00:30:25

there's a there's a tone that's there and

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I think people understood that and you can't

00:30:27--> 00:30:28

take away from the fact that

00:30:29--> 00:30:30

we were on the ground and we saw

00:30:30--> 00:30:32

this with our own eyes. I don't have

00:30:32--> 00:30:34

an agenda. I'm not a part of I'm

00:30:34--> 00:30:36

not a registered participant in any political party.

00:30:36--> 00:30:38

I'm not the president of any organization.

00:30:38--> 00:30:40

I'm not selling anything that I need to

00:30:40--> 00:30:41

make money off of to the president. I

00:30:41--> 00:30:42

don't need his contracts.

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I'm just telling you based on what I

00:30:45--> 00:30:46

saw, and you can feel

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how nervous I am about what's happening in

00:30:49--> 00:30:51

Gaza right now. And I feel and I've

00:30:51--> 00:30:53

gotten to the point where I'm concerned about

00:30:53--> 00:30:54

this, you know, this this

00:30:54--> 00:30:56

invasion that may take place. And I do

00:30:56--> 00:30:58

think that there were people who actually received

00:30:58--> 00:30:59

that message, they understood.

00:31:00--> 00:31:01

Because at the end of the day, I

00:31:01--> 00:31:03

mean, you know, when we're when you are

00:31:03--> 00:31:05

just only focused on the truth

00:31:05--> 00:31:07

then, you know, what can you argue against

00:31:07--> 00:31:09

me? Right. What can you push back in

00:31:09--> 00:31:10

my face? And I'm, and the one thing

00:31:10--> 00:31:12

I did mention because I know that they've

00:31:12--> 00:31:14

been meeting with their Israeli counterparts,

00:31:14--> 00:31:16

and they're saying that there is no famine,

00:31:16--> 00:31:18

and there is no malnutrition, and that they

00:31:18--> 00:31:20

are bringing aid into there. I said, I'm

00:31:20--> 00:31:22

telling you firsthand, and I can give you

00:31:22--> 00:31:25

examples and details about how everything that they've

00:31:25--> 00:31:26

said about this is not true.

00:31:27--> 00:31:29

And whether you want pictures or you want

00:31:29--> 00:31:30

people

00:31:30--> 00:31:33

I'm talking on behalf of thousands of starving

00:31:33--> 00:31:37

children on Gaza Strip. We have been under

00:31:37--> 00:31:37

for 135

00:31:40--> 00:31:40

days.

00:31:41--> 00:31:42

No food, no water,

00:31:43--> 00:31:44

no medicine.

00:31:44--> 00:31:47

Our message to the world, check on you.

00:31:47--> 00:31:49

How can you put

00:31:49--> 00:31:50

your children

00:31:50--> 00:31:52

while we eat animal food?

00:31:52--> 00:31:55

Are you waiting for our death? Check on

00:31:55--> 00:31:58

you. Our message to us, we

00:31:58--> 00:32:01

don't ask you to fight Israel.

00:32:01--> 00:32:03

We are asking for food.

00:32:04--> 00:32:06

There are plenty of people who can attest

00:32:06--> 00:32:07

to this. And I'm here now in this

00:32:07--> 00:32:09

room. So, you know, I think,

00:32:09--> 00:32:11

you know, I think I hope

00:32:11--> 00:32:13

that that message does get through. I think

00:32:13--> 00:32:14

it was received

00:32:14--> 00:32:16

by several people. At the very minimum,

00:32:17--> 00:32:19

I think you you ever have that sort

00:32:19--> 00:32:20

of feeling when,

00:32:21--> 00:32:23

you know, you're about to discipline someone? I'm

00:32:23--> 00:32:24

not saying that I was gonna discipline the

00:32:24--> 00:32:26

president or or the guy. I was saying

00:32:26--> 00:32:28

you always if you feel like maybe there's

00:32:28--> 00:32:29

something wrong that happened,

00:32:29--> 00:32:31

you have that feeling inside of you and

00:32:31--> 00:32:32

I do think some people felt like, yeah,

00:32:32--> 00:32:34

something wrong did happen with respect to what's

00:32:34--> 00:32:36

going on in Gaza. There are

00:32:37--> 00:32:39

lots of areas where we fell short and

00:32:39--> 00:32:40

we could have done we could have made

00:32:40--> 00:32:42

a difference in people's lives. So I do

00:32:42--> 00:32:44

think that that message is loud and clear.

00:32:44--> 00:32:46

Everybody's been saying it and I think I

00:32:46--> 00:32:47

was just kind of repeating that message and

00:32:47--> 00:32:49

I hope it soaks in.

00:32:49--> 00:32:51

Alright, last thing, American Muslims,

00:32:52--> 00:32:53

courage,

00:32:53--> 00:32:56

you learn courage and character and resilience and

00:32:56--> 00:32:57

faith from the people of Allah.

00:32:58--> 00:32:59

By taking these types of steps in your

00:32:59--> 00:33:01

career, you're risking your career. We've got people

00:33:01--> 00:33:03

that have been fired from hospitals

00:33:03--> 00:33:06

over sharing an Instagram story, over a tweet,

00:33:06--> 00:33:08

we've got people that have lost their jobs

00:33:08--> 00:33:10

at law firms. The doxxing is crazy. Yeah.

00:33:11--> 00:33:12

What's a message that you can give to

00:33:12--> 00:33:13

American Muslims

00:33:14--> 00:33:17

about courage right now? Yeah. I mean, I'm

00:33:17--> 00:33:18

gonna go back to the people in Gaza

00:33:18--> 00:33:19

and I'm gonna I'm gonna mention 2 things

00:33:19--> 00:33:21

from them honestly that,

00:33:21--> 00:33:23

stuck out to me. There's this level of

00:33:23--> 00:33:26

honesty that's there that I didn't haven't seen

00:33:26--> 00:33:29

replicated anywhere else. Just this willingness to speak

00:33:29--> 00:33:30

the truth even if it's against themselves.

00:33:31--> 00:33:32

And I'll give you an example. I was

00:33:32--> 00:33:35

at Shohadah Al Aqsa hospital in Deir el

00:33:35--> 00:33:35

Balah,

00:33:36--> 00:33:37

and there was an ICU doctor there and

00:33:37--> 00:33:40

he was one of 5 people that stayed

00:33:40--> 00:33:42

in the hospital to treat the patients when

00:33:42--> 00:33:44

the Israeli tanks started to surround the hospital

00:33:44--> 00:33:45

and actually hit the ICU.

00:33:46--> 00:33:48

And many people fled reasonably. I mean, like,

00:33:48--> 00:33:49

many people went to go take care of

00:33:49--> 00:33:51

their families. They they got out of there.

00:33:51--> 00:33:52

But he was one of the people that

00:33:52--> 00:33:54

decided to stay in the hospital.

00:33:55--> 00:33:56

And as the Israeli tanks withdrew,

00:33:57--> 00:33:59

many of the medical staff started to come

00:33:59--> 00:34:02

back. And I remember them talking about it

00:34:02--> 00:34:03

and he asked one of the guys why

00:34:03--> 00:34:04

did you leave? Why don't you stay with

00:34:04--> 00:34:06

me? And the guy told him, he goes,

00:34:06--> 00:34:07

I'm gonna be very honest with you. I

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was terrified. I was scared. That's why I

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left. He goes, now I'm not scared, so

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that's why I came back. And

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that sort of honesty to me is like

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incredible. It was again, he was basically testifying

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against himself, but he's just willing to put

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it forward. I think that's something we have

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to think about. I mean,

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these people are willing to speak up the

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truth in the face of fighter jets,

00:34:28--> 00:34:28

tanks,

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massive military.

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We should be able to at least say

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what we think is right and communicate in

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an effective way. My only message is think

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about how you're communicating and messaging it. We

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want the person to respond to it because

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we know the truth is on our side.

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We know that we're speaking the truth. We're

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not lying, we're not propagandists,

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We're just trying to communicate about the suffering

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that's there. We want our people there to

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have the right to life, to be able

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to live freely and to live with dignity

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and to be able

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to do what they want without having to

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worry about being killed.

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Just think about how you how that message

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can be received. I know how my colleagues

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at work can receive it. It's gonna be

00:35:04--> 00:35:06

different than how the president receives it. You

00:35:06--> 00:35:08

know within the community that you deal with

00:35:08--> 00:35:09

how they're gonna receive it, people who are

00:35:09--> 00:35:12

also non Muslim. Let's just get this story

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out there because we know we're speaking the

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truth. Yeah.

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And

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I do wanna point out here by the

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way, SubhanAllah,

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your wife and you got 2 kids under

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3.

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Yeah. May Allah SubhanAllah bless you and your

00:35:22--> 00:35:24

family. And me, thank you. SubhanAllah, I think

00:35:24--> 00:35:24

that,

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when you take this type of a step

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and I've said it and I mean it,

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I'm

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extremely proud of all of my friends who

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are doctors,

00:35:32--> 00:35:33

brothers

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who have gone forth.

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SubhanAllah, there are over 20 people that I

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know right now are doctors on this. It's

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like, we have a community here in Dallas,

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we're just talking about this, like we've sent

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more from Dallas probably than anywhere else. Amazing.

00:35:44--> 00:35:45

So

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indebted to each one of you guys but

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also your families.

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Because your wives are at home,

00:35:51--> 00:35:53

you know, for the sisters that have gone,

00:35:53--> 00:35:55

their husbands are at home. Yeah. Little

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kids sometimes and not knowing what's gonna happen.

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So may Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala reward them

00:36:00--> 00:36:02

as well, reward the families and reward them

00:36:02--> 00:36:04

all, inshaAllah ta'ala allow this to be a

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means of bringing healing

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to our people in Gaza and may Allah

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Subh'anaHu Wa Ta A'la give victory to the

00:36:09--> 00:36:09

oppressed everywhere

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and allow us to be vehicles of conveying

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that truth.

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So, jazakAllah khaydum. Yeah. Thank you. And Allah

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Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala reward you and accept that.

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you.

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you.