Channel: Nouman Ali Khan
Topics: Comparative Religion
In this khutbah our learned Sheikh touches on the four verses from Surah Mujadilah that Allah sent down in answer to a woman’s lament to the Prophet SAW.
Rather than Allah reprimanding the woman for debating with His Messenger Allah actually gives space to someone who is hurting. Allah scolds not the woman but the man who utters unacceptable speech that offended Allah Who named the womb with His own name – Ar-Rahman.
This is an important passage for the ummah of Muhammad SAW. Hold your tongue. Verbal abuse in families is not light. Remember Allah heard the conversation within those walls and Allah will hold to account verbal abuse in family relationships.
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decided that this story should be remembered until Judgment Day. And these four are dedicated to this one conversation that the Prophet alayhi salatu salam had with a woman who is otherwise not very famous at all. As a matter of fact, just I'll tell you something about this wonderful woman. She had a problem with her husband, and she wanted to discuss this problem with the Prophet. So I said, I'm going to explain some of that to you in the course of this hubbub. But because of this conversation, and she was complaining about something and the prophets lie, Selim did not have an answer for her question, and he had not revealed an answer to him yet. As you'll see, she
complained, instead of complaining to the prophets, I saw them after arguing with him, she complained to Allah. And Allah revealed Koran because of her. And years later, after the prophets lie, Selim had passed away, at one time,
the Allahu anhu, who was the head of state, you can think of it in today's terms, he was the president. And he was traveling with an entourage with a security detail nowadays. You know how sometimes when the President travels, they have a motorcade, and they have like, you know, a security detail. And they've got important personnel with them in multiple cars, and there's like a train of cars going through. And they have, of course, a short deadline, they have to get somewhere. So I'm going to hottub was meeting with a bunch of delegates from different parts of Asia, etc. And she happened to be passing down the street. Years later, this is after the province. I said, I'm
passed away. And she was passing down the street and she said, Yeah, Mama, she is called an Allah. And I'm going to be a lot of our news stopped. The caravan stopped the entourage and the you know, the official government trip.
He got off his horse, he went down and he started talking to her and she starts yelling at him. And she says to him, I knew you when they used to call you are made, in other words are made means little arm up. So you got to remember us since you were little. And then she's giving him like you should fear a lot. Now you're a big shot. Hi, now your head of state, you're the mean, look at you now, always fear Allah always remember a lot. She talks to him for a good hour. She's given him a lecture on the street right there and all his crew, his security, all the other ambassadors that are waiting, they're just standing there waiting until he's done. And he doesn't say a word. He just he
just. And once he's done, then she leaves and then he says we can go. And some of his staff came to him and said yes. Hola. Yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah. I mean, sorry. He said, you know, head of the believers, you know, mortal enemies. The young, we haven't seen a day like this one. I've never seen something like this. What you stopped all of this, all of these VIPs. You know, Bill, I use this old lady. That's why you stopped. And he said, this woman when she complained, her complaint was heard above seven heavens. And Allah revealed Quran for this woman. If she talked to me all night, I would have been standing here. And if she if she kept me the next day, I would have been standing here,
the only time I would have left is if she gave me the excuse to go pray. So I would have this the only time I would have left. But otherwise, how am I not going to listen to someone who has heard above the seven heavens, and Quran comes down for her. So she had this this honor, her name was Hola, Hola, hola. And her, she had this honor of her memory being part of the Quran that we recite. And that's, you know, this is where I want to just kind of give you an appreciation of how the people before us used to appreciate this wonderful woman. Anyhow, she comes to the prophets lie Selim complaining. She wants to talk to the Messenger of Allah. And when she talks to me, she says a
bunch of things. She says a bunch of things about her husband, she says he's an old man, he doesn't have good manners. That's how she starts. He's old. He doesn't have good manners. And I used to be able to, and she's younger than him, but she's not that young. Right. So she says, I used to be able to have children. But now that I can't have kids anymore, he thinks I'm worthless. And he treats me like a servant. And she even goes on to say in one another narration of the of the same story. I used to be young, and a lot of guys, a lot of men wanted to marry me, but I chose him and look at how he treats me. And today, he came home, he was upset. And I you know, I responded to him. And
when I answered back, I you know, he gave me some sharp comment. I gave him a sharper comment back. Some of you married men know what that's like, you open your mouth, you say something smart, and you get 10 times worse back. So he said, you know, and she got he got she snapped back at him. And he got so upset. He said to me From today on, you are like my mother. That's what he said to her from today. You are like my mother. And this was in Arab tradition before Islam. This was called the heart. And the heart was this ugly practice, where when you're really mad at your wife, you say from today, I swear, you're like my mom. And that means I will never have any kind of relationship with
you again. Because I, I think of you like my mother. Now. It's impossible for you and me to be together. And that means they can never be together. So this is like way even worse than divorce. And this was something they used to say before his son. So she said, so he said that to her. And then he left he left the house and he went and she says he was with his friends for an hour or whatever. And then he came back and he wanted to come close to me. And I said, No, you're not coming close to me until Allah and His Messenger make a decision. Because you said what you said, you said, I'm not gonna let you touch me ever again, until I talk to the profit slice of them. So she comes to
the profit center. And she says that's what he said. What should we do? And the profit zone first said, I have no revelation to answer this Quran talks about divorce for luck. It doesn't talk about from today, you're my mother. It doesn't address that problem. Not yet. Anyway. So the prophet SAW Selim doesn't have an answer for her. But based on what the prophet SAW, some can tell. He, on his own opinion, said to this woman from as far as I can see, how don't you lie or you become haram for him? You can no longer be with him. But I'm not I don't say I know the answer. But this is just my opinion. The province likes him didn't give a fatwa on her. She said this is what I think. And she
says Mark Allah tala can hear but he didn't say divorce. So she starts arguing back with the prophets item. And the the witnesses to this account, say that she was going back and forth. And she was actually getting more and more upset with the Messenger of Allah sallallahu alayhi wasallam. And as she was getting loud, you know, nobody comes and talks to the prophet like that Elisa to Salam. And you know, in other places in the Quran in surah 200 we learn that if you raise your voice above the prophets voice, or you call him like you call anybody else without a shadow will call kachari nikolova and look at what interim letters rune. If you call on the Prophet size alone, like you talk
about anybody else you call anybody else. If I see one of my friends, I say Hey, bro, come here.
Hey Kareem, come here. But if somebody came to the Prophet sighs and I said, Hey, Mohammed, we want to talk to you. If you even did that, what does Allah say? Don't you dare talk to him that way, because all of your good deeds will be taken away. It doesn't matter if you are fighting the Battle of butter, or you made Hendra or you did, or you spend all of your money in charity, all of that will be gone, because you talk to the prophet like that. As you were casual with the Messenger of Allah sallallahu sallam, but this woman is raising her voice. And she's arguing with him, she's debating with him going back and forth. When the prophets I seldom usually understand something.
Sometimes the prophet SAW Selim wasn't even saying something from Revelation, he was giving his opinion, sometimes, there were some people that used to garden, and they were experienced in gardening and farming, and they have certain ways that they grow their plants. And the profits are still almost passing by. So why do you do that? As he also that this is how we grow the plants, because that doesn't make any sense to me. And he just kind of criticized it, but he he's not a gardener. He's not a farmer. He just said it. And they stopped growing their plants that way, and the next year, the crop didn't grow. And they came to the provinces and you said, Why did you Why do
you do that? He said, I didn't tell you not to do that. Until mobo, Mauritania come, you know better about your place. In other words, when the prophet SAW Some even said something once a little bit, nobody argues back. They just do it, even if he wasn't telling them to do it. And in this case, this woman, even though she hears the Prophet salaams opinion, she says, But no, he didn't pronounce divorce. I don't understand this answer. And then she got so when the prophet SAW him didn't have an answer that she wanted, she tried to explain to him, we have children. And then she says that if I leave these children with him,
they're gonna die. He doesn't know how to take care of kids. He's horrible with children. He's got a temper with me, but he's also horrible with children, he can't take care of them. And if I can't ever be with him again, and the kids are in the house, these kids are as good as dead. And then she says, but if I keep the children with me, Johto they're gonna starve to death. I don't have a means to provide for them. We can't break this family. This is the problem she presents to the prophets. Allah loves him, and he doesn't have an answer and Allah azza wa jal then revealed these four out. And these four have guidance. And as I chose this hookah today of these four, I've been doing a
lecture series on the surah at our machine, you know, for the last week, but I chose to turn this particular incident into a hookah, because there's some things in here that we have to take with us forever, like a lead decided that this story should be part of what we recite until judgment day for a reason. There are some timeless, timeless lessons here that everybody needs to remember. That's why I love this story, or what made us remember this story. So a lot opens by saying called Sammy Allahu Colella t to Jaya De Luca fees Oh gee ha, Allah has been listening has already heard the word of the woman who comes in argues with you about her husband.
So Koran didn't come down to tell this woman fear Allah and show respect to the Prophet. Watch yourself. This is the Messenger of Allah, you know, like other places where a lot more another eco rasulillah you better know this is the Messenger of Allah among you. Not this time, unless as Allah has been listening to the one the word of the one who's arguing with you about her husband with a sticky in a law, a point came where she got so frustrated with the Prophet salallahu alaihe salam, she put her hands and head in the sky. And she said, Yeah, you know, Yala. Put some words in your profits mouth.
That's what she said. Put some words in your profits mouth because he doesn't have an answer for me. And I'll reveal this and the province started speaking started reciting this Quran. Allah has heard the speech the complaint, the words of the one complaining to you about her husband, and she's coming turning to Allah with a sticky in a lot and she's taking her complaint to Allah. Well, lo who yes Mariota what Akuma and Allah is list has been listening all along to the dialogue the two of you are having. It's not just the people standing around the profits. Listen, I've been shocked. How's this woman talking this way? Even though people are listening, and Allah says, I've been listening
to this dialogue in the law has sent me and we'll see certainly allies all hearing and the one who sees now the first lesson we learn here from Allah Himself, is that when someone is in trouble, and when somebody has a desperate situation, and they come to you asking for help, even if they're raising their voice, or they're debating with you because they're in a terrible situation, you're not supposed to get upset. How dare you? How dare you speak to me this way, show some respect. If Allah azza wa jal even completely overlooked the fact that one of the one of the believers is debating with Allah messenger. This is the same messenger of Allah sallallahu Sallam about whom
Allah said previously I'm to read una Allura sulaco Casa de la musalman kaaboo Amitabha del khosravi Lima and Picabo la Sabine in Al Baqarah. He said, Are you going to question your messenger
Like the people before you question their messengers,
and whoever does that, how does he say Amitabha delanco frabill email, whoever replaces their faith, with not believing at all with disbelief has gone off to the far end, meaning they're they're misguided. They're lost. questioning your messenger is like being misguided. is leaving Islam altogether? Isn't she questioning, she's questioning she's debating. But Allah gave us an exception. When someone is in despair. When someone is hurting, and they come seeking relief, then Allah azza wa jal is merciful towards them. And he doesn't treat them the same way he would treat someone else who's just being arrogant and obnoxious. In other words, when we deal with people, sometimes people
get upset. But before you say, How dare you get upset? The first lesson here is first understand, is this upset because they're arrogant? Is this upset because they're just full of themselves? Or is this upset coming from pain? Are they in some kind of pain or difficulty that's making them cry out, that's making them upset. And if that's the case, you have to overlook the raising of the voice. You have to overlook the the tone, and you have to be sympathetic to the pain and the difficulty that Allah overlooked the fact that she's debating with his own messenger, sallallahu alayhi wa sallam. And he says, I heard her call. I heard her complaining with you. And I've heard the entire dialogue.
Anybody else standing there sitting there a little bit?
How did you see your talk like that? And Allah says, Yes, I've heard the whole thing. I've heard all of it and now allows response. He says Allah Xena EULA He ruined me Nyssa him, mean comienza him, those of you that are going to say such a thing to their women to their wives. If you ever say something like that, you're like my mother. First thing Allah says mountain Omaha to him. They're not their moms. They are not their mothers in Omaha to whom ilala home. their mothers are the ones that gave them birth.
Now, that's not rocket science. everybody already knows that your mom, the one who gave you birth. And the people who said it also knew that. But the fact that a lot went out of his way to say By the way, those of you who say such nonsense, that makes no sense number one, and first of all, you already have a mother, the one who gave you birth. This is a lost way of scolding, not the woman. But the men who said something arrogant. Because they felt I'm in a bad mood. I'm just going to say what I'm going to say. And they're just going to just run their mouth. And a lot came at them and said they're not there. And then he didn't stop there. He says we're in a home Lake una Mancha.
Middle Kohli was hora. And they are saying something vile, something disgusting, something unacceptable. This is an unacceptable kind of speech. And this is false testimony, allies offended by this because you know, there's lots of reasons, but I'll share a couple of them with you. You know, Allah has made certain things sacred. And one of the things that sacred is the mother, what de la la de de Luna v when our harm, be conscious of Allah and be conscious of the womb of the mother. motherhood is sacred. So anytime the word mother is used in a dirty way, or in a way to make an argument, or in a waiting for somebody to use foul language, then they have not committed a crime
against someone else that they cussed out, or though someone they call their mother or etc, etc. They have committed a crime against the law because the womb of the mother is sacred. How dare you use the word mother that way? How dare you. That's what it was Lessing. Now I don't have to make a list. Y'all live in America. And people that are watching on the internet. Know what the internet is like. Virtually in every culture in the world. The devil has made the devil knows shaitaan is the same shape on the shaitaan speaks Japanese and the shaitaan speaks Punjabi and the Shetlands speaks English, it's the same shirt on the food can be different and the cultures can be different, the
devil is the same. And the devil knows that Allah made the womb sacred. This is why you find in virtually every language, one of the most abused words his mother,
one of the most abused words his mother, in every culture. Why is that the cultures are different, their filth should be different to know it's the same because the devil is the same. for Shabbat is the same and he wants you to get away and by the way, the one who doesn't have regard for the womb of the mother has no regard for Allah
has no regard for Allah. Allah azza wa jal made this this word, this motherhood, you know, it comes from the womb, which is what I have. And inadequacy said some way to convince me I named I named you the womb with my own name, or a man. So be careful when you say something like that, but Alhamdulillah we don't say that anymore. People I mean, I'm I don't know of any crazy case where somebody had an argument with their wife and say, You remind me, you're my mom from now. Nobody does that anymore. It's dead. It's been gone for 1400 years. But you know what else we do? What else we have to learn?
From this, what we have to learn from this is he this person made haram for himself forbidden for himself something Allah allowed. This relationship between husband and wife is also sacred, just like motherhood, the sacred. Marriage is also sacred. And marriage is something a lot calls mythical Lila, I have a contract. I heavy agreement. This heavy agreement that he describes in the Quran is the same wording he uses one prophets made an agreement with God that they will deliver their met his message, that's also mythical unbeliever. And in certain Nyssa he says about marriage what a husband I mean, Cohn mythique unbeliever is a very heavy agreement. Don't take it lightly. Don't
and, you know, in the course of argument in this particular ayah, in these particular sets of IR allies, especially hard on men, because you know, an argument is two way street. When a man says something crazy, it's not like he was just sitting around one day, and he decided to say something crazy. Some men are like that. But a lot of times, the women are saying some crazy things, too. And they're poking and they're poking, and they're poking. And eventually he just loses it and says something crazy. But in this particular I realized holding men responsible, you better watch your tongues. You're the head of the household. You're supposed to have more self control. You can't lose
it. And if you lose it, you better watch your tongue still. You don't get to cross the line. So then after Allah says, okay, those of you who have done this, and familia una de mercado, and they want to go back from what they said. They want to take it back. I'm sorry, I didn't mean it. I want to take it back. In any other deed, you just make Toba and you move on with life.
That's it. Easy. But here Allah said, No, that's not enough for you to recover. You have to free a slave.
You have to free a slave in complete and utter master before they can touch each other.
I just called her like, she's like my mother. I didn't mean it. I was just mad. No, that's not good. That's not good enough. You have to go free a slave.
And now why free a slave, some scholars talking about why free a slave. Because when you said that to a woman, you put her in a kind of emotional prison. She's not quite your wife anymore. She's not quite free and divorced anymore. And you created a misery for her. And to make up for that Allah says, Now I will give you the, to give you an idea of the kind of misery you put her in. You have to take someone that is in actual misery in the misery of slavery, and you have to free them. So you get some appreciation of the pain you caused. The penalty fits the crime. That's an Illinois law. So he says go for your slave before they can touch each other. Then you come to Abu Dhabi, that's the
advice you're being given. What law Have you bought that little Nakamura and Allah knows what you're up to? Then he says, and for my Lumia jet and whoever can't do that, okay, somebody can't afford to free a slave. What do I do now? He says, okay, by the way, nowadays, if something like this happened, we don't have slaves around. So what are we going to do? So he says from Olivia Jade fasciae mazarine Matata big men, cuddly tamasa they have to fast listen to this carefully now. That man has to fast 66 zero consecutive days, two consecutive months before they can touch each other. You know in Ramadan when you fast, Laila to cry Hello Lacombe a little cry amaravati Larissa calm,
you can be intimate with your spouse and the night of the fast not these fast. They're not 30 days of Ramadan. People don't like 100 hours over
this Ramadan times two. And let me tell you something in Ramadan, Allah makes the fasting easy. Try fasting 30 days of Ramadan, then try fasting two days after that. It's 10 times harder. Because you need to love will be coming closer Allah wants is for you in Ramadan, he makes it easy. It's way harder outside of Ramadan. And Allah says now 60 consecutive days and what that means is if you miss one day, like 45 days, 46 days you missed it or you couldn't do it, guess what? The counter resets back to one again. And then 60 gets a 60 consecutive before they can touch each other. If it was just 60 days, any 60 days, but Shahada ad mutata Beany 60 consecutive days two consecutive months
before they can touch each other. How in the world is he going to do that? And then he says in whoever can't do that for the Alamosa, Tina mosquito. And just like in any other shady parts of Nigeria, when you miss a fast, then you can make it up by feeding somebody says you have to feed 60 people. You have to feed 60 people, but the question is why fasting? You know, when you fast when I fast, then things that are halaal for me usually become heroin. Right? Water is hella and it becomes heroin. Food is halaal it becomes heroin. The wife is hella she becomes harder when I'm fasting. Isn't that the case? Allah says you opened your mouth and you took something halaal and you decided
to make it Haram. Let me teach you who makes halal and haram.
You're going to learn
For 60 days, who makes halal and haram because you forgot when you open your mouth like that? You forgot. So he says fast for 60 days, by the way, in that story, when he when the IRS came down, the lady didn't stop hola said
he doesn't have money to free a slave.
And he said, Well, he confessed for 60 days. And she said, We, he can't even do one day. He when he when he misses one meal, he started going blind. So he can't do.
And then she said, Okay, well, he can feed 60. And she said, we don't know why he doesn't have food to give bear he barely have food ourselves who's going to give to so the profit slice alone, then brought a basket of dates and said here, they'll give it to 60 people.
And, and just the leftovers take them home.
That's what he did for, you know, to save her family. But the last thing I want to share with you, I took time, but I'll I'll take maybe three, four more minutes. I know people have to get back to work. But this is this is the probably the most important part of this whole book. People say things in anger in life. You know, people say things in anger. And you know what some people do that say abusive things in anger. Then two hours later, they pretend like it never happened.
But you're the worst thing that ever happened to me. I can't believe I have lived with you.
You know, I used to be happy before I met you. You're the reason I'm sick. You're the reason everything's gone bad.
I hate you so much. And the worst mistake of my life, etc. And then two hours later, hey, you want to go for ice cream?
What are we doing tonight? Hey, did you get the tickets yet?
Acting totally normal. Like that didn't happen. And you're like,
Ah, so should I pretend to be normal too. Because you have to make a calculation in your head. Should I remind them of the crazy things they were saying two hours ago? Because that was really exhausting? Should I exhaust myself all over again? Because they seem to have amnesia.
Right? They forgot all about it. And so you say to yourself, man, that's too exhausting. Let's just go get ice cream. So. So you just go along, you go along. And this is what this is a game. Some people play. They're abusive, and then they pretend it never happened, then they were really abusive. And then they pretend it never happened. And then they're verbally abusive, and they pretend it never happened. And you keep playing that game along with them. Because it's too tiring to keep on arguing it. You already it's like being in a boxing match. And you're like, finally it's over. And then the bell rings again. And he's standing right there and I look okay, I throw in the
towel and say you win. I can't argue this anymore. Some people do that. This man and this woman could have just had this argument. And a couple of hours later, he wanted to be with her. Yes. He just wanted to be with her. Like, let's let's pretend it never happened. You can do that. You can do that until Judgment Day.
But Allah will remind you that these words that you said are not light, verbal abuse inside of our families not light. saying these things that are absolutely haram to say, sometimes mothers get dramatic because they watch too much. You know, soap operas or, or Pakistani dramas or whatever, from today, you are no longer my son.
Or I never want to see your face again. Not until I die. And then they throw in I swear by Allah and this and that. Oh my god. And you think these words that you say they don't have any consequences? They're not being recorded. Allah didn't hear this conversation that happened inside of a bedroom
and revealed I thought about it. Because when you get to pretend that you didn't, you never said it. And you made the other person force amnesia on the other person also, a lot doesn't forget.
A lot doesn't forget a law will hold to account. And a laws were a loss verdict on especially taking family relationships and making verbal abuse Okay, inside family relationships is very harsh. is not it's not a small thing. This is not a small thing. There's a reason for it like that came down. That's a pretty big thing. You know, and you know, the I know, I said three minutes one last minute. This is what happened in another time of the prophets life. This is important to connect.
You know, in Ramadan, you're not supposed to be with your wife when you're fasting.
A companion came to the Prophet Alayhi Salaam. He said I I've killed myself. I've just tried myself. What happened? I was with my wife while in Ramadan. What should I do? The prophet SAW and don't know Quran has come. The Quran never tells you what you should do. If that happens. The Quran didn't talk about that. But this man came and said, I had intimacy with my wife. What should I do in Ramadan? And the Prophet says I'm set free asleep.
I can't I can't honestly I don't have what am I gonna find a slave and I can't afford to. He's at first 60 days.
He says I couldn't handle Donilon.
Okay, how about your first 60 days?
Oh, he says feed 60 people
I don't know between these two mountains there is no one poorer than my family.
If you know one time, let me know. And then the province Isilon gave him again baskets of food and said, Go give this to people. And he says, the leftover Can I keep? He says, Yeah, you can keep it go. bought the profit slice of them gave him his three answers, furiously, fast. 60 days or feet 60 people Yes. Which is exactly what he said in certain which Allah Allah said, Why did Allah take the revelation of the Prophet take the revelation of sootel majorda, which is about men calling their wives, your mother.
And he applied it to a completely different situation. I was asking one of my teachers, Dr Coronavirus about that. And his answer was brilliant. He said both of these have something in common. When you take something that is haram
and you purposely made it hell out for yourself.
Then it's the same rule.
And when you take something hard on the wife, and you make her haram for yourself, same violation, only Allah decides what Hello, only Allah decides what's Haram. When you take that in your own hand you better make up for it. That's what these two have in common. So we you know, this is not a small thing. Be we have to be careful about the things we say and do. And words inside of a home are not not being recorded by Allah they're being very carefully recorded by Allah. semi colon Lottie Pooja De Luca Faisal jihad. The word of this woman not even when she came to argue with the prophets, I saw them from way back when her all of our arguments were their husband. All of them were recorded,
all of them are with Allah. So be mindful, especially especially with the way you speak to people in your family, especially with them. We are the nicest when we meet strangers sound logical, how are you Masha? Allah Alhamdulillah then you get in the car with your wife and kids, or your husband, or your siblings and you learn.
The face changes, the tone changes, the words change, the attitude changes, the prophets. isin says the best of you are the best to your families. Most of us are the worst to our families. We're the best everybody else. We look great. Everybody else we're the worst our own families worse to our own spouses, husbands to wives wives to husbands. This is how we have forgotten the last book. I pray that this is a reminder for myself, and for all of you to be careful with how we use our tongues in the context of our homes. barakallahu li walakum Hakeem, when finally we are complete, it was the Kentucky
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