Munir Ahmed – Session 85 Hadith Collections

Munir Ahmed
AI: Summary © The history and legends of Hadith, a man who killed himself in 2016, are discussed in a series of segments covering the history and legends of the movement. The speakers touch on the origin of the movement, its use of "has been" and "canon of Hadith" to describe people, the use of "has been" and "canon of Hadith" to describe people, and the legion of Hadith, a group of people who have been involved in transmission of authentic Hadith books. The segment also provides insight into the history and legends of Hadith, a group of people who have been involved in transmission of authentic Hadith books, and a book called "has a hadith" that is considered a source of Hadith.
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Okay, I'll handle the lag it'll build Alameen

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a Salatu was Salam ala MBI will mursaleen early he will suck me here tomorrow in Allahabad.

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Salam aleikum wa rahmatullah.

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Wa Nisargadatta. Allah and you topple me while you're filming Zulu whenever you prefer and say

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necessarily who beilman What is Converse? Yeah.

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Well, Abdullah Saleh and moto Papa Ali Hinata webcal Wha la Hill.

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Merci for how they will

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allow the Praise be to Allah, Lord of the Worlds Peace and blessings on the Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alayhi salam, as always after greeting your brothers and sisters, we ask by asking Allah to accept from us to forgive us

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give us beneficial useful knowledge and understanding what sustenance and

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deeds that are acceptable to him, for his pleasure. On him we are utterly dependent unto Him is our return go there is no power might accept that of Allah glory but

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Hadith number 27 as they mentioned it last time, we mentioned

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the margins of it really because the hadith is about righteousness and we will deal with that. But one of the things we talked about last time we talked about the whole concept of Hassan Hadith a summary of that because Mum no we judge this hadith he said Hadith Hassan

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quite rightly as

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as we can maybe see later on but it is how do you personally explain what kind of Hustle Hustle leave it last time and he also said

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are Awhina homie fee most they'll email me and ask me Libya humble or data me me. It's not in Hudson.

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Who's reported basically he's saying? We took it from the Muslim the book called Musnad. Akhmad and Muslim datamine was that atman must

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remember when Imam nawawi is taking a hadith he's taking selected views from the sources of Hadith, the books of Hadith, and now his book is not a source book of Hadith. That's why there's no chain with it either. Okay, so he's taken his selections. So normally he says Bukhari Muslim Timothy accepts those will mention as well. But here he mentioned us Muslim achmad and Muslim datamine

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as some scholars correctly said that actually

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Imam Adana, me which many people is not same as telemovie a data me is a different person, Mr. McDonough me, he's one of the contemporaries of Imam Bukhari and Muslim Sams kind of time period.

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And he was a puppy and a hadith scholar in his own right. And he died in two to five, Hydra. HIV two to five. How does that compare? If you look at Imam Buhari, a little harder he died 256225 He's just a bit older. Okay. So Imam daarmee but his Cadet collection is not really Muslim.

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It is more correct to call it Salam because he arranged his Hadith according to topics like the amount of wood Tao does and Timothy and the say

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and, and the likes of Imam Bukhari Muslim Tirmidhi, and the sun in Abu Dhabi will generate Hadith from a dichotomous collection. So he's well known. Yeah.

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More than this, in his own right, Imam Abdullah Remi, and therefore he has his own collection,

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which is referenced by other Adid scholars as well because he's a contemporary of them. Yeah. And he's teaches us some of the famous teachers all the other great

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At least collectors like Boeheim that will highly Muslim telemovie etc. Okay, there's something about Imam

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data me

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Yeah, so now I come to you says most of the argument

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most of that aftermath

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is one of the most famous books of Hadith

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source. Okay. And this is the collection, the famous collection of the famous scholar athma Dibner, humble, Brahim a whole lot, who died in 241 Hijiri. So he's a contemporary again, of the humbly school of thought which came after it's after Imam Ahmed in the humble

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aftermath in the humble of course, is the student of Imam Shafi.

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Yeah, Shafi who has his own school of thought who died in 205. A jury Yeah, is his teacher. But he has other teachers as well. And Hadith sent me he has Abdullah Rosa who is a famous Muhaddith one of his teachers who has his own moosend of collection of Hadith as well. And Sophia in a Yana a critique of hadith is the teacher of Muhammad Muhammad. Muhammad Muhammad humble is well known as a critique of Hadith par excellence

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Yeah Fokin is all right but he's so famous in regards to being

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a critique. Yeah. One who is able to do critique system of Hadith of riddle of the people narrator's etc. Yeah.

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And he

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uh, he's famous, very famous for being imprisoned and actually released and dying at a situation of the fitna that was around this time of philosophical rationalist arguments of Tesla.

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He suffered a lot at the hands of rulers who became more popular for a time period. And all this debate about the Quran being created, and not being the Word of God. This is the debate that he was involved in all to do with the actual Aqeedah and theological arguments. He's famous students are Imam Al Bukhari Muslim Annabelle doll

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raises those as the famous students and his

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most nerd said to 41 he passes away.

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He called it Muslim, most of that come from Senate Senate means of course the chain must not means join. The chain is joint without any breaks. That's what Muslim means. But whenever collectors of Hadith call their books, classically, Masonic, Masonic in plural, they arranged their Hadith in a particular way. And hence they were known as Muslim. Although the word Muslim means connected, well, Imam Bukhari and Muslims, these are also connected. So extremely Reasonable Doubts, everybody who claims to have authentic hadith will change will, will really have most of the theory, but Muslim as a title, they used it more technically, or terminologically. What it meant was they raised their

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Hadees according to the names of the Sahaba in alphabetical order, not according to topics, so it's not going to begin with the topic of Tawheed or the topic of taharah, ritual cleanliness, then then we'll do then Salah then fasting is not going to go down that

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you're going to find it difficult to find the topics because it's arranged according to the name of the Sahaba Yeah, in alphabetical order, and all the Hadith that Sahabi as transmitted are all there on whatever topic that this is what Muslim is. So he starts with starts with qualified Rashid before he goes to alphabetical order as well. Yeah, to give them the greatest honor. Yeah. Hadith of Abu Bakar honor of man, Ali, Radi Allahu Anhu much mind he starts with them. Then the others from the the astral mobile sharing the 10 who were given the good news

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was of paradise while they were alive. All in one Hadith of course, more than 10 were given this I mentioned to you before in Sierra. So then He gives us His mentions there Hadith in alphabetical order, then he begins with the rest of the sahaba.

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Okay in alphabetical order, and the women at the end from the Sahaba yet okay, so this is the method of any Muslim anybody who is a Muslim, so dar Amis is not a Muslim, by that very definition and I just mentioned to you why so, really a Muslim

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him they're humble,

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even Taymiyah, who is humbly the great even Taymiyah scholar came hundreds of years later, of course, he says that I've met him the humbling he must have stayed clear steered clear from a group of reporters that even others like Abu Dhabi and Tirmidhi Tolkien reporting from

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his conditions are better than Abu doubts. Yeah, yeah.

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And he doesn't transmit any Hadith from liars are those known to be liars or those who are left on throne

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when he says most adamant he never it is not called Sahih Muslim Ahmed he never called it that he hasn't said the condition for my collection in the Muslim is only authentic hadith

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that's not his condition. Yeah. Although majority of transmitted Hadith that he goes with a chain for 10 are authentic. Okay, but so we say majority are authentic. There are many Hassan Hadith with the hustle condition we mentioned last time. Yeah. And much less in it our life or week of different levels. Yeah. And a few are rejected Mancha.

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And he usually makes common about Hadith but not always, some people claim that everything he stayed quiet about quiet about is

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authentic, which is not true as you mentioned that it could be that is life.

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Some scholars of Hadith like Abu Farraj

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Immanuel Josie, Josie

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wrote a famous book called a modal the fabricated in it he collects all the fabricated reads from various collections. And he puts some Hadith

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about 20 or so from Muslims of Akhmad in his collection. Others objected to that and rejected that there are any modal modal art or fabricate the

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likes of half Iqbal Iraqi Yeah, who said

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I will follow this. I will follow Jay Abraham Josie went too far in collecting 20 Odd Hadith from the Muslim government and putting them in his fabricated. Yeah, there may be one or two but others said there's no fabricated there may be rejected it but not fabricated one in the Muslim environment. This is a debate among scholars anyway. So

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called Edna Ottawa humbly scholar, he took them out of

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academia humble

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from all times, and he did he

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put it into chapters like the chapters of elbow Harvey. So now he's doing a bad topic. Now must be a very difficult task. It was 1990 volumes nine zero

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because he also did some shots and explanation of each of these Islam 90 volumes.

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So he's taken it from the most of that kind of and put it into topics. For now you're going to it's more like OHare and Muslim collection.

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the most famous collection now of the manuscript brought together and established for present day, all the manuscripts of the Muslim atma brought together to do its editing and confirmation that this is the most known is done by somebody called swipe up now.

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Swipe up now, who died in 2016.

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Barack Obama hola che well now is El Bernie. Not Scheffel Bernie is originally from Albania.

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But but he spent to live most of his time in Syria. Yeah. And che about now is a turkey was a fuckery of the present day died in 2016 on set and, and a Muhaddith. And a critique of

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what he did was a Muslim, Ahmed, he did his editing and,

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and it is available as 45 volumes, Muslim attachment.

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And there, he also what he does, is because most of the argument

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was originally written the book itself in the handwriting of admittedly humble.

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Right. Then later on his son Abdullah.

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Yeah, that's the copy that's in circulation Abdullah took by muslin. And most of the most that is that manuscript and what his father had written, right. But also he narrated that to his son Abdullah.

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So it's corroborated by the narration to his son and by the manuscript as well. And where he didn't find a hadith This is Abdullah his son, which he had heard from his father, he says, I found it in the book of my father in his handwriting.

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That's a connected chain. Okay, as I mentioned to you last time.

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So that's another aspect of the collect the most that that's available today, that is in circulation. So and then there was yeah, that an extra Hadith. Also included in present day Muslims of Atma did the humble which we have to be aware of, which are from Abdullah his son with chains to others for you the sheiks of his father. He has added those in so Choi will add now, Rahim Allah has put a mark against those Hadith to clarify that this is that category. Okay. So most of the present day

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has some additions of

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somebody called Abu Bakar potty

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Yeah diagun 368

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the President a mustard of ACMA Dibner humble

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also has some additions that Alka tea

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who has his own chain back to unbelievably humble foremost not only here next edition editions himself of these, this is marked by a now great service that Sheva

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now did shrivel now to died in 2016 is not the same as Abdulkadir. Now,

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who was also from same area it was Kosovo and actually.

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Now it is used by the Turks to refer to people who are Albanian origin are from that area. So, now it is linked with the fact that the Albanian Kosovo in

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South Africa

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old is not a brother, although they work together and he was much older and died in 2004 I think approximal was also a fucky but not a critic of Hadith like shape of now, the difference in the two are powers of present day

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so that's something to say about the

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Muslim of athma diviner humble now

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so because I mentioned to you a data me

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two to five injury dies as his collection some data may many authentically because he was a great mom as well. Contemporary of alcoholic and Muslim and then Muslim Ahmed also contemporary, a great critic of Hadith not just

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To transmitter not just a collector okay

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his students Yeah Are the likes of Mr. Mahoney I will don't have a doubt is his famous student as well.

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So, I will that will before we go to Abu Dawood we should mention

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the main sources of Hadith books, these are two already most of them. Okay.

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As I've mentioned before in discussing Hadith, many Orientalist and some others have followed them from the Muslims will learn from Orientalist and not really gone to these sources claimed the first written manuscripts that can be relied on the extent that was on Hadith was Al Motta of Imam Malik Imam Malik died in 179 injury. So he's from like the tibia tabby. Yeah.

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And certainly Imam Shafi had great praise who is the student of Imam Malik

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Malik guys 179 He three Imam Shafi days 205 Yeah, his most famous students Imam Malik is Imam Shafi.

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So Imam Shafi his opinion while he was alive said that the most authentic book in knowledge after the Quran in the world is a water of Imam Malik.

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Okay, that changed once the Korean Muslim came. Although majority of Hadith you find Bihari Muslim you will find them on water as well.

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Okay, Imam Malik MATA

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is good because Imam Malik is one of the most brilliant Mohandas seen historically, as a critic of Hadith

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in the chain going down Shafi Ahmed in the humble, Mr. Malik himself, great critic of Hadith, so much so that any connected chain

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that Imam Malik has put in his Mata, which has connected Chen going to the Prophet sighs Salam is authentic.

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But he doesn't include all the authentic hadith in it. He never made this enter as a hadith book. It has many of his FICKY opinions. It has many aside from Sahaba and their opinions and tabby. Yeah, so it brings them all together.

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So matava Imam Malik, yes, it contains is still present. Yeah, it contains many authentic hadith. But it is not a book purely of authentically.

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That's important to know. But I mentioned that because when we say books, spouses of Hadith Well, you can't not mention that a lotta Yeah, which came before of course, Al Bukhari and Muslim. But as I've mentioned before, in classes, that writing of Hadith

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didn't start, this is why they say, Oh, it's a bit like the Gospels, they were written 150 250 years after, right? And look, we have Hadith of the Prophet SAW, Selim starts being written in the second century by Imam Malik, who dies in 179. Before we had nothing, absolute nonsense, and it's a lie.

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It's a lie. Because the Hadith, he's transmitting, he hasn't just sat there and thought, right, all right, at least now, he's got his teachers who've got their teachers going back to Sahaba. His chains are going back to Sahaba. And they were already in circulation therefore, well, before his time, the Hadith in the time of Sahaba. Yeah. And beyond. And in fact, the teachers who are off Sahaba, there were those Sahaba like, Abdullah Abdullah asked who wrote Hadith

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who had written a hadith is not extent now but it's referred to by the likes of early scholars like Imam Malik and others.

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Just because they're lost now doesn't mean they were not written because they had access scholars have all had access to these manuscripts. The skewed is many students Abu Breda and other students out others Sahaba maybe majority Sahaba didn't right but the taboo in definitely wrote

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so those manuscripts were already available and they're transmitted from those. So that's the correct the idea that hadith are only written my mind is comes up where

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As the Gospels there's no comparison because the people have written the Gospel we don't even know who they are. It's not Matthew, Mark, Luke and John when we say Imam Malik Mata we know is in our Malik we know Imam Malik is we know his life everybody knows Imam Malik

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so to make comparisons like that is absolutely outrageous there's no comparison. You don't find it's not in chains in the Gospels.

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false names you find you don't even know who's written them all of them are influenced by Paul not by isa Alayhis Salam

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so and and

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and there's many gospels

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hundreds a year later they decided well we're gonna make these that was Paul's will accept will reject these gospels who decide

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ours wasn't done like that is no comparison at all.

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Then we go further and it's become established now as well amongst a Muslim on man I like to clarify it because they say when the term for source books of Hadith we have the car sector

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the six

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this is a term that's been in circulation for actually hundreds of years

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are Shahab sector the six authentic authentic sources of these books or six authentic and these books are several sector some in English nowadays I saw over the last many decades now. They say the six canonical Hadith books I hear that word canonical.

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What does it mean?

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They took it from Christianity because they said the canonical Gospels is Matthew Mark Luke and John canonical

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we don't need that term to apply to the six books of Hadith

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canonical light you know committee got together and said we'll accept these are being holy the rest we reject subsequent nonsense. No scholars with any answer knowledge in Hadith ever behaved like that and took only the source as a source of Hadith and rejected Imam Malik's matar rejected come to where the six are? Yeah, but this term to say a six canonical I reject it completely don't use it don't accept it because it's rubbish.

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The car sector itself is not an accurate term even though it became an came in circulation Why is it not an accurate term?

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Because it gives the idea that all the Hadith collected in these six books are authentic. That's what you imply when you say assessor has said that six authenticated books. So people think everything in these books is authentic, which is not true.

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Not true.

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Ask any experts in her little tell us not true.

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So, it became wears its origins.

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The first person to give the idea of a number of books he never had the idea of this sixth authentic was perhaps as my teachers should have the larger day and share I cannot we both said that a scholar called in second in in Baghdad

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they asked him his students

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about the best collectors that hadith from the 1000s in circulation at that time, he dies in 353 This is full century Hijra

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after Bihari Muslim and without or money comes after them in the middle of the fourth century. So they asked even second so he brought with him four books

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on Buhari Muslim and I without understanding and he placed them and he said how the coop it'll Islam because they're about Hadith and he said these are these are the very sources and the foundations of Islam these four books.

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Okay, so what happened later, is

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a couple of 100 years over a couple of 100 years later, and Imam half is a selfie, not selfie. Selfie means predecessor. Selfies the self are not the present their selfie they use selfie for Allah these people

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dogma, but the term itself is not

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an insult self means our pious predecessors it means Sahaba and Tabby in

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but for those who claim that they are the ones the problem happens when a group say we are the self or the selfies were the only ones following the Sahaba and Tabby a tabby, so reject all the rest of them that there's a problem there, but no problem with the

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inshallah we all aspire to follow the great salad right.

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Now, this scholar was not called solid, he was called Scylla fie. And

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he put forward the idea of five major books for source of Hadith. The four mentioned he added to the at Tirmidhi. Jami at Tirmidhi. He said these other major works. Later on then came the idea of six books. And after that, some people from the scholars and it became circulated in the public, obviously, more popularly because they're not realizing what the term is implying. The idea of set has said that they added a sixth book. Now, to show you that this is not Quran and Sunnah. The sixth term is the idea they are chosen by scholars.

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And then for the sixth one, there were differences of opinion.

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I mean, madlib

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in Maghrib,

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light and the Lucia in Morocco, these areas, the sixth book they added was almost out of Imam Malik.

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But most famously around the world, if you say see her scepter they'll say a Buhari Muslim, and the say without remedy. And if the manager

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if the manager was added very much by the Easterners, not accepted by the Westerners.

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When I say Eastern Westerners now I'm talking about the Muslim world. The Westerners are the Europeans and the, you know, North Africans as they were Spanish, the Spanish and the Moroccan, they're the Westerners okay, very close to us now. Even till this day, so the Westerners they didn't accept even my job at the East was did and others didn't accept even magia or a Mata. They said the six best having the most authentic hadith is the most the Adara me

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yet, or stolen a datamine which I mentioned earlier. Remember, this hadith of a man no way he said is found in datamine.

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So some took a data me as the six of the six books. However,

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no doubt, these are the most famous books of Hadith.

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And if you want to say the most authentic, you'd have to say Bukhari and Muslim.

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There's no doubt about that.

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No doubt about that. They actually call that collections,

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Jamia, so here, the compendium of authentic hadith, move to serve

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a lot to Sir means a smaller collection they've taken from their many a hadith that they had available that took the most authentic, so across the Ummah, from the title of Imam Al Bukhari till this day, the most authentic book on Hadith

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amongst nearly all scholars till this day, and that says something about Imam will Buhari is Sahil Buhari

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so he'll go hot

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according to my teachers, the to Muhaddith in teachers I've just mentioned before,

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all Hadith in Imam Al Maha is collection that have been transmitted with a full chain from Buhari back to the prophesy some are all authentic.

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Some scholars and critics of Hadith

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critiques a handful of Hadith. Yeah, but Elma Mahmoud Buhari also has something called in his collection of Al Elmo Allah pot.

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Elmo Allah pot, which means suspended at least

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briefly, I don't want to go into great detail with it. It's where he doesn't mentioned the full chain

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mentioned a tablet II from there not all the people he leaves is suspended that's why it's called suspended majority of the reason why he does that is because he's already mentioned this study somewhere else with a full chain and now he went since it as a way of abbreviation doesn't even show the whole chain again. Majority is that so there are plenty others if it the chain falls below his level, and he's very strict

00:35:30 --> 00:35:39

but falls below his level and he doesn't find any other authentic. He will mention it by way of saying this is the best there is. Yeah.

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This is the best or perhaps mention it in forgot it but not in an account. Not in legal ruling. He'll mention it

00:35:50 --> 00:35:59

here. So there's a debate about the Malahat amongst the scholars of Hadith, etc. Without going into that.

00:36:03 --> 00:36:11

So Imam Buhari, as I said died in 256 Hijiri. One of his students is Imam Muslim hymnal hijabs.

00:36:12 --> 00:36:17

And me support Baldi, who died in 261.

00:36:19 --> 00:36:24

Just five years after Mr. Murray passed away, and among Muslims,

00:36:26 --> 00:36:42

again, took the best of the authentic hadith. Mama Hari was even a level greater mama Hari chose narrators that each narrator to reliable, trustworthy,

00:36:43 --> 00:36:47

accurate narrators must report from such a narrator

00:36:49 --> 00:37:02

only took those kinds of generators and there has to be evidence that they're heard from when they say I got this evidence to show even once they heard or they met.

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Right that's the criteria mumble hurry, ma ma Muslim a bit less than that says that they were living at the same time they had the ability to be in the same area. So the possibility of them meeting is definitely that as long as they are trustworthy and also also reliable. So he would accept the So Muslims slightly less in that. Yeah.

00:37:35 --> 00:38:09

Imam Muslim wrote a separate book at Tommy's distinguishing one in which he discusses the defects in Hadith lol I mentioned to you the hidden defects about narrator's etc. I didn't complete that book that's the book on critique, but he wrote writes his methodology in the introduction to his Sahih Muslim so if you want to know on what basis has included a deep and what is is methodology inside Muslim you read the introduction of Saudi Muslim

00:38:11 --> 00:38:14

and he explains it to you himself. Yeah.

00:38:16 --> 00:38:17

Then we have

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if we take it date wise

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I'd have to mention before we mentioned the likes of Apple, Donald, Soloman, Apple down TAO, as suggests Stanny.

00:38:41 --> 00:38:43

From the present Afghanistan.

00:38:44 --> 00:38:50

So just standing. The other thing you'll see where majority of the theme and great scholars

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around the late second and third, the fourth century,

00:38:58 --> 00:39:12

there's a massive shift of knowledge towards the area of Iraq and Iran. Yeah, because the mumble hottie is Muharram samarqand. Hara, that area. Yeah.

00:39:13 --> 00:39:35

Who's Pakistan nowadays, isn't it? That's where it is. That's where he was. You wouldn't believe it. That's where he was. So he's students and teachers around that area as well. And Nissa booty which is Muslim who decide Muslim, Muslim enough hijabs is presently in Iran, northeast of Iran.

00:39:36 --> 00:39:54

Yep. So Abu Dhabi, the city Stanny. Afghanistan, died in 275 Hijri. So about what 14 years after my Muslim dying, I will bow to suggest Stanny abou downloads.

00:39:55 --> 00:40:00

Teacher famous teacher is at Medina humble were mentioned the Muslim Baba

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with Iran

00:40:03 --> 00:40:24

in fact, he has a book called two kinds of books, asking FICKY questions and without too much of my humble another book. Yeah asking questions on Hadith to a two Almudena humble. Yeah. And then saying what he said his teacher

00:40:27 --> 00:40:32

so I will doubt is Salman Abu download? Yeah

00:40:33 --> 00:40:42

he's one of the most comprehensive books of Hadith ensemble. Yeah, one of the most comprehensive books of Hadith

00:40:43 --> 00:40:43

on the

00:40:45 --> 00:40:51

on the Sunnah of the Prophet salallahu Alaihe Salam. There is however, another Abu Dawood, who is fence.

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I will doubt our policy.

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To make it more complicated. I will doubt a policy.

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Was from Missouri.

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He died in 204. Hey, Jerry. Yeah, so he's dying about 70 plus years? Yeah. 70 years, 70 plus years before without suggest Danny comes?

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00:41:30 --> 00:41:35

he's also Muhaddith. And he's known famously for his Muslim.

00:41:37 --> 00:41:58

Muslim is a collection of a hadith alphabetically arranged by the names of the sahaba. So there's another Muslim aside from academia humbles Muslims the reality, who is Abu Dhabi policy is older than Medina humble. Yeah. Older than Bukhari and Muslim. Yeah. And was

00:42:01 --> 00:42:05

a well known great Muhaddith. Yep.

00:42:08 --> 00:42:12

Abu Dhabi, Tao, the PRC to make it more complicated, he was also known as Solomon.

00:42:14 --> 00:42:42

Solomon, Abu Tao, the reality, Solomon, Abu daga, CG Stanny. The most famous one is just Tony. Yeah, whose son on Abu Dhabi, we have everywhere, most of the fallacies generally used by scholars not available as manuscripts and translated in English. And we have today with Abu Dhabi of Solon. So that's just to clarify the difference between them. So

00:42:43 --> 00:42:44

Abu Dhabi about

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sets his condition. In a letter he sends to some scholars in Mecca cometa. He writes in it his conditions, On compiling the Hadith that he put together in a sermon

00:43:04 --> 00:43:09

that tells you and that letters available still. In it, he explains his methodology.

00:43:11 --> 00:43:16

And his methodology in line with these teachers methodology. The humble,

00:43:17 --> 00:43:51

great critical Maltese. Yeah. And so majority of Hadith are authentic. There are those less than that, which are at the level of Bihari Muslim, then condition slightly less than that, but still authentic, then Hassan Hadith? Yeah, then there are some Hadith which are weak. And he and he often most of the time clarified that it's weak. And what its weaknesses. Yeah, yeah. And there are some which are

00:43:52 --> 00:43:54

at the level of exist.

00:44:04 --> 00:44:05


00:44:06 --> 00:44:07

so he says,

00:44:08 --> 00:44:13

he says, if there's any Moon cut or rejected Hadees, then I explained that

00:44:16 --> 00:44:37

Moncure rejected is not just a if it's rejected, very strongly, weak. So he says, if there is one, I explained that nothing under this chapter besides this idea, so he puts it in because they know that if under heading on that topic, but he explained that this is the rejected Hadith, and why is it rejected? He says it himself.

00:44:44 --> 00:44:49

So that's a little bit about a good old who explains his methodology.

00:44:51 --> 00:44:54

Then we have the famous Abu Issa.

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Yeah. Mohammed Abu Issa telemovie.

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From thermals

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was Becky Stan.

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Mom Timothy died in 279 Hijiri

00:45:11 --> 00:45:14

279 So he's

00:45:15 --> 00:45:33

dies four years after and without his most famous teacher is is Mohammed Abdullah Ismail al Bukhari to me this teacher is so you see, some people suggested of the latter day scholars that

00:45:34 --> 00:45:36

a tremendous

00:45:37 --> 00:45:38

corroborate corroboration

00:45:40 --> 00:45:44

of hadith is lacks, but it's not true

00:45:45 --> 00:45:48

among Tirmidhi is corroboration In fact,

00:45:49 --> 00:45:57

there are Hadith the others said were authentic or acceptable that somebody criticizes and calls them weak. Yeah.

00:45:59 --> 00:46:37

So the my teachers for example, so you have a lot of today says Tirmidhi has high caliber of doing tactic authentication, authentication or weakening of Hadith mount to him and he's right up there. Wasn't lacks in doing that just behind Buhari and Muslim. Yeah, and when he's not sure he's actually saying it. I asked. Talking about his teacher just like Abu Tao asked me a humble Tirmidhi will be seen as saying, I asked one replace my ear Muhammad about this hadith and he said, such and such and such and such.

00:46:38 --> 00:46:47

So he actually quotes him as well. Imam Bukhari in his al Jamia and he called his book Al Jamia

00:46:48 --> 00:46:49

the Compendium

00:46:50 --> 00:46:54

Yeah, some people came and call that a Jamia say

00:46:55 --> 00:46:57

adding the word Sahil again.

00:46:58 --> 00:47:04

Yeah, but he never called it that because when you come to Imam telemovie

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00:47:25 --> 00:47:33

Hey, he never called his book Sahai like a mumble Horizont Muslim he didn't. In other words, he's not saying I have only collected sahih Hadith in it.

00:47:35 --> 00:47:35


00:47:37 --> 00:48:09

But the thing with Imam Termoli is that nearly always he explains comments at the end of the Hadith, sometimes, often about the Hadith itself, how authentic it is or whether it's weak or whether it's Huson. And why. Other times question. He's corroborated with his teacher other times even the opinion of the Messiah he yeah and why they follow the particular Hadith and which version they took goes into all these details. Imam Termoli Jamia?

00:48:12 --> 00:48:41

So that's why scholars say Lai Accardo Yatra Kunal Hadith Dona Tality almost never He has a hadith without making some comment on it. Yeah, and that's always beneficial, isn't it when you've got a critique of Hadith who rather than staying quiet if you find that these nobody says anything afraid you don't know whether you this way or that way? Unless you are an expert in Hadith yourself? Yeah. So primary Mr. Premier, his comments are so beneficial and useful.

00:48:49 --> 00:49:13

So even though he had he includes in his ljm, a hadith for various grades, he clarifies the grades Yeah. and takes care to doing so. Yeah. So he has in his Compendium Jamia sahih Hadith, I still have beef and dive of various levels, yet some Moncure or modo only a few and He clarifies it

00:49:15 --> 00:49:22

he clarifies it himself. It's not like he's mistaken he's Britt there. Yeah. So he clarifies that

00:49:26 --> 00:49:27

even Roger up

00:49:28 --> 00:49:32

the evil Roger. Yep says that.

00:49:34 --> 00:49:50

Some of the the Hadith that he has among cut rejected, especially in his book on Fatah, Al are virtues not in Islam, not in rulings, not in legal rulings. But he clarifies that almost always. Yeah.

00:49:52 --> 00:49:59

And he never includes Hadith from people. Those accused of lies. Yeah,

00:50:00 --> 00:50:08

Unless the hadith is transmitted from other chains, which are authentic, and then to clarify, he will do that. So

00:50:17 --> 00:50:18


00:50:20 --> 00:50:22

that's something about

00:50:23 --> 00:50:24


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So the other two that just to mention is a mom and the say,

00:50:32 --> 00:50:38

the mom and the son he dies 303. So the beginning of the fourth century hater.

00:50:39 --> 00:50:46

Yeah, Imam unnecessary, whose name is Ahmed ibn sure IPE is a hora Sunni.

00:50:48 --> 00:51:04

El Hassani. Nessa is in Turkmenistan, that area again, that's why it's called a necessity. Yeah. Some say an essay. Other say a necessity. They're both authentic. Not Nissa T.

00:51:06 --> 00:51:08

Yeah, Nisa is woman.

00:51:10 --> 00:51:17

Nessa is the place. Some people say Imam decide it's not necessary is necessary with a Fatah.

00:51:18 --> 00:51:30

Fattah on the new that's very important dialogue in 303. His teachers are the famous teachers of Hadith, man they say

00:51:32 --> 00:51:41

those who are specialized in Hadith, he first wrote a book of Hadith called seminal Cobra.

00:51:42 --> 00:51:47

Cobra, the great the big collection, then he was requested

00:51:48 --> 00:52:35

to write a book on only authentically so he took from Sinaloa Cobra and wrote al Sunnah sobriety is known as Yeah, the smaller collection of Sunon or it's also called as a mooch tuber, meaning those he selected or chose from the others of Imam and necessity. This was transmitted from him by the the smaller version, the more authentic version was transmitted famously by Imam ibn Muhammad ibn a Sunni. Even a Sunni is a famous who also transmitted with other scholars the soil Cobra, but he's the only word transmitted transmits Albert's taba

00:52:36 --> 00:52:39

or sunnah. Sagara mama Dada Powstanie

00:52:40 --> 00:52:43

great critic of Hadith came later

00:52:46 --> 00:53:09

was asked, when even Hoceima an unnecessary transmitter Hadith who is better at authentication, he said. It is Abdullah Abdul Rahman meaning under certain he is more cautious and careful than anyone. Some said he was even more strict in his condition the majority of Muslim Imam and the say

00:53:13 --> 00:53:21

Imam Ibn Rajab even regime says As for unnecessary, his conditions are stricter than Tirmidhi and double down.

00:53:23 --> 00:53:28

So if you want to find most authentic hadith, after Bihari, a Muslim

00:53:29 --> 00:53:38

is sunnah Surah of Imam, Imam and necessity even before I will delve into the money. Yeah, his critique of hadith is of that level.

00:53:39 --> 00:53:53

Some her father said, tried to call Imam on the site is book Asahi under certain Yeah. Because the level of his authentification Yeah.

00:53:55 --> 00:53:59

However, in reality, among the Maasai

00:54:01 --> 00:54:03

showed in his collection,

00:54:04 --> 00:54:13

hidden defects in Hadith he mentioned so you can't call it a seppie and the Saudi himself isn't calling it that. Yeah. So among the same self did

00:54:15 --> 00:54:29

find hidden defects in both his bigger collection and the smaller collection. Yeah, of Sunon. Or many I had these and he did Jarrah or invalidation

00:54:30 --> 00:54:39

of a number of transmitters. So it is better not to call it sappy, but he clarifies that his collection

00:54:40 --> 00:54:40

doesn't leave it.

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So, we come now

00:54:46 --> 00:54:47

to even manager

00:54:49 --> 00:54:51

Ibn Majah

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These are my notes

00:55:10 --> 00:55:12

even the manager in his son

00:55:14 --> 00:55:16

in it there are many I had these

00:55:17 --> 00:55:31

which are Sahai and Hassan but he also included weak and fabricated disease. The problem is not including them only, but he does not clarify between them given merger

00:55:32 --> 00:55:41

Okay. Therefore, his book is of a lesser grade in front of unnecessary Tirmidhi and a Moodle

00:55:43 --> 00:55:53

because he doesn't clarify so you're left with weak Hadith in a fabricated duty even though they are not the majority but they are there. Yeah.

00:55:56 --> 00:56:04

So if you find a hadith just even magia and not in Bukhari Muslim and in the Saya, Tremonti, you need to really think carefully.

00:56:07 --> 00:56:20

It needs looking very carefully, why wasn't in the others? Why is it even matter and even magia compared to the others, which who are critiques of Hadith, even magia is more of a collector less of a critique.

00:56:22 --> 00:56:43

So you've got different levels of scholarship. So there is a collection of Imagist most of our syllabi, imagine you'll find in Bihari Muslim, the site and maybe others. Yeah, but he has his own chain. But he is not a critique of Hadith to clarify for you that these studies have got, this is a problem with it, and this week, and this one's fabricated, he won't do it. And it doesn't.

00:56:45 --> 00:57:02

Therefore, no wonder one of the reasons why others took Adara me as the sixth book and not even merger and the mother of bees took on more tagoma Malik, not even magic this is this is some of the reasons why. Okay.

00:57:04 --> 00:57:20

Imam Abu Dhabi, the great shamsudeen zahavi, the great historian, who came a few 100 years later shamsudeen And a critic of Hadith, a great scholar, Hadith, very balanced.

00:57:22 --> 00:57:28

And also, when we say critical that these, his field is also

00:57:29 --> 00:57:34

Jeff without a deal, or a small regional regional, which is

00:57:35 --> 00:57:37

about the narrator's

00:57:38 --> 00:57:56

he's an expert in the narrator's as even harder was as Imam Buhari was at Atmel in the humble was yeah, these are critics of Imam lobby from later time. So he says even merger was Hatfield. Yes, sodic wide knowledge.

00:57:58 --> 00:58:05

But he only diminishes in his level because of his books included rejected Hadith and some fabricated ones.

00:58:06 --> 00:58:07


00:58:15 --> 00:58:36

Imams RB then says there are 30 Hadith, which can be thrown away from even even merger. In reality, approximately 1000 of these 11 merger have no basis and cannot be used as evidence about 1000. Okay, because there's 1000s of reviews there.

00:58:37 --> 00:58:42

So you see, then when you say say ha sector,

00:58:43 --> 00:59:31

how can you have a book where almost 1000 of these now have no basis and say self sector really lies my teachers have said even if we're going to use the term, I don't think we need to because again, the debate is about the sixth one anyway. And actually, there isn't just sexism and I'm going to show you just many more. There's many more Hadith scholars and folk Aha, don't just limit to these books I mentioned today. These are famous amongst the public. Okay, so to say even there are six it's not accurate. You can say that the WHA Venus sector or kotoba CitiField Hadith the six books on these which are famous and the six ones debatable as well still. Yeah.

00:59:34 --> 00:59:35


00:59:37 --> 00:59:39

that's something about Ibn merger.

00:59:41 --> 00:59:41


00:59:45 --> 00:59:47

when we look therefore, at

00:59:49 --> 00:59:51

Hadith collections,

00:59:52 --> 00:59:53


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we've mentioned a lotta

00:59:58 --> 00:59:59

source of Hadith

01:00:00 --> 01:00:02

Present day what's available and mentioning

01:00:04 --> 01:00:07

then you've got the ones that just mentioned

01:00:08 --> 01:00:11

the six plus a dichotomy

01:00:13 --> 01:00:14

is Sunon

01:00:15 --> 01:00:22

plus must not have a Moodle dot Palissy yeah

01:00:23 --> 01:00:24


01:00:25 --> 01:00:45

available as well plus athma didn't humbles most net Yeah 97 volumes as was done by one of the ancient scholars when he put it into chapters. Yeah. And the 40 Odd volumes of present day Muslim is available the source Yeah. Then you have

01:00:47 --> 01:00:51

others books, the likes of

01:00:53 --> 01:00:54

when we come to

01:00:55 --> 01:00:57

let me just mention to you

01:01:01 --> 01:01:26

that I mentioned must not have met in the humble Muslims of Abu Tao that Palissy there are other Muslims as well of Muslim bazaar as a source of Hadith. Yeah, most not Al BUZZA Abuja Allah has another Muslim these are sources of Hadith but this book with chains Yeah. Then we have

01:01:29 --> 01:01:30

books which

01:01:34 --> 01:02:06

from the fourth century just a bit after among the savvy Tim Imam at top Ronnie middle of the fourth century died around three five something I think, Mom Baba Rani famous for his collect famous phrase margin. More general can be more general receipt and more famous, sorry. Yeah, the lexicon of Compendium you can say the big one, the middle one, he means size wise, and the smaller one.

01:02:07 --> 01:02:22

These are all collections of Hadith from his own chains. And he arranged them they're known as margin because he arranged them according to the names of his his teachers are you in alphabetical order? So he's found another way of doing it.

01:02:23 --> 01:02:42

So when it says more, Jim, and he's the most famous one from our gym? Yeah, at top Ronnie he just said according to the names of his teachers so all those need looking at again while they're authentic or not. Yeah, him on top Ronnie so they can be authentic teeth there as well as weak ones as well as

01:02:43 --> 01:02:45

rejecting them ones and fabricated ones.

01:02:52 --> 01:03:14

abdulrazaq Whose guide in 211 is one of the senior had the theme you know from the teachers of the likes of Buhari and Mohammed bin Hanbal. is Abdul Razak as Sinani from sunnah in Yemen he has a famous collection called was Sunday Abdul Razak

01:03:17 --> 01:03:31

where there are authentic hadith and statements of Sahaba that to them if you want to know their opinions in Messiah Abdul Razak Yeah, and of Tabby in their opinions as well.

01:03:41 --> 01:03:44

Yeah, so that's what I wanted to say.

01:03:46 --> 01:03:51

Is Shava has a collection of a hadith. Yeah.

01:03:53 --> 01:03:55

Most Somnath in there be Shaybah.

01:03:57 --> 01:03:58

If I remember correctly,

01:04:00 --> 01:04:05

they'll be saying that also has authentic hadith and authentic opinions with chains going back to Sabah and tadi.

01:04:08 --> 01:04:25

So scholars who go beyond the month hubs, the form of that hip and others, they can go back and find authentic chairs. What was the opinion of the before the Muslim scholars came of of the great scholars from Tabby in and from the Sahaba

01:04:27 --> 01:04:29

to compare, yeah.

01:04:31 --> 01:04:32


01:04:35 --> 01:04:40

I think that's all I wanted to say about Hadith collections.

01:04:43 --> 01:04:45

Yeah, any questions?

01:04:47 --> 01:04:48


01:04:49 --> 01:04:59

I'm so happy to be heard by several people from the province and yet each one to have understood that differently or

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Welcome to the authentic

01:05:03 --> 01:05:07

way are blessed with few words mean.

01:05:10 --> 01:05:16

Yes, it is, but not necessarily ahead along with each other.

01:05:17 --> 01:05:55

Usually, if you see, in fact, many instances and statements are reported by different Sahaba or centac, once you've authenticated them, they're brought together because to give you the full picture, once a hobby, use certain words, from even the statement of the province is done, you can have a difference in describing a situation definitely. But even from the statement, there'll be a few words that are different. And some of these would be covering. I've shown you with authentic hadith, other versions of it, where the words are slightly different. But the meaning just is a variation in meaning rather than analog. He's not going to say this is haram. And who knows?

01:05:57 --> 01:06:41

Yeah, that's not going to happen, not in authentic versions. Yeah, a fabricated version might be saying the opposite. But it'd be fabricated or weak, but not when they're authentic. And if it does, this is, this is a complex topic in jurisprudence, when you have evidences that seemingly are too out of this conflict, how you deal with it, man to how we famously deals with something like that. But certainly you are jurisprudence experts in a solo effect. This is one of the headings of how to deal with that there's a methodology to be followed. Because once it's established that both are authentic, that's the first thing you need to do. Then they look at are we talking about just Hadith

01:06:41 --> 01:06:46

here at the moment, then the idea of which is more authentic than the other?

01:06:49 --> 01:06:58

If it's more authentic, then you leave that one, if there's any conflict, that's not authentic, because it might have a hidden defect that needs investigating as well that we talked about before.

01:07:00 --> 01:07:14

Or the tar or the conflict, maybe in your understanding of the two actually, there isn't a conflict but you think there's a conflict because you misunderstood the words. That means looking at carefully as well.

01:07:15 --> 01:07:47

Or it could be a conflict because one was made. And this is rare. This is the last stage you go to abrogated. The other one is the aggregator. Yeah, and usually it's there in Hadith. I told you before about this now it's this Yeah, I stopped you from visiting the graves the prophesies from saying yeah, now I'm telling you go and visit the grooves that he tells you itself so that was abrogated from

01:07:48 --> 01:08:04

from what happened before. Yeah. So that's the kind of situation you're going to find Yeah, different words were sent to you because transmission is allowed by majority of these scholars by meaning by meaning

01:08:06 --> 01:08:18

some give preference to meaning a fight for me the problem with it but like so even headband for example, who is that? I think

01:08:19 --> 01:08:36

so 353 is something he died so he had been he'd been he's the student of emphysema and both had certainly had been had been had the idea I mentioned your last time he took Hadith only for some views of scholarly

01:08:37 --> 01:08:37


01:08:39 --> 01:08:53

Won't take it from somebody who had no scholarship almost okay. That was one of these conditions. But that's his particular condition. Others didn't take that condition and I gave the reason for that last time as well

01:08:54 --> 01:08:56

to have the answers your

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01:09:12 --> 01:09:14

Yeah, sorry it was very technical today.

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But I although I mentioned the six

01:09:20 --> 01:09:29

books before early on, this was a revision of that and in addition to it because there's certain things I didn't mention last time I've gone into more detail

01:09:32 --> 01:09:33

no more questions and

01:09:36 --> 01:09:37

it will stop in Sullivan

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Baraka law vehicle and inshallah next week in sha Allah we will deal with the maternal daddy's

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the texting channel.

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It was like a one off I didn't, but I could do that one a little handling laying on the avenue Solomonic.

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