Munir Ahmed – Session 84 Hadith Science Concepts

Munir Ahmed
AI: Summary © The speakers discuss the importance of understanding and learning in the context of Islam, as it is crucial for individuals to confirm their connections and be aware of the principles. They stress the importance of accuracy in transmission and the need for more thorough learning. The speakers also touch on the use of "has" in various titles, including legal rulings and work, and how it is used in various context. They emphasize the importance of finding authentic connections and finding authentic reports to make them more trustworthy.
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Okay I'll family Lego Bill Alameen

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wa Salatu was Salam ala Shiva Phil NBI will mursaleen wa ala alihi wa sahbihi is madly in love band

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or your little Koran. Salam aleikum wa rahmatullah whoever Kirpal.

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When this Allah Tala and your Taco Bell Mina, we are filled. Lulu banana UK Farah and Nursey attina Ness Allahu the element nerfed what is going worse here? Well, Amazon salejaw Matakohe Bella Wahoo, a husband of an Atmel Mola. When am I gonna save? While I hold our Lakota illa Billahi la li la vie. For Praise be to Allah Lord of the Worlds Peace and blessings Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alayhi salam, after saying slums to you all.

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We ask Allah to forgive us and to accept from us to give us

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beneficial

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and useful knowledge and understanding

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and wide systems and

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deeds that are acceptable to Him and to please Him unless lawmakers do those deeds. And there is no power and might accept that of Allah.

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We resume again after Ramadan for some time, I pray a lot that you're all well and

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spiritually uplifted from the blessed month.

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Indeed, it has been a blessing. And really it is amazing. The month of Ramadan, you really do feel different in it. I think every Muslim does. Even the weak ones, and the stronger ones and the middle ones everybody

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who's sincere and looks looks forward to Ramadan

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gets that upliftment increasingly manner attachment and closeness to Allah spa, which is the very purpose of fasting isn't it really.

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So may Allah accept our fasting and our Salas and our laws, and give us its effects and benefits in this world in our

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in our whole look and our behavior, and also give us its real multiplying benefits in the hereafter along

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we are on Hadith number 27. We are slowly progressing.

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As I said before, we could progress a lot quickly.

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And I could do the I think there's quite a few even in English, certainly in Arabic, and even by a few English explanation of the Arbaeen 14 de semana we online probably where they do either to have two or three Hadith in an hour or one Hadith per hour. There's plenty of those available

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as some of them be quite good. But my purpose was to approach this in,

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in a approach that Ibn Rajab took really

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in his Compendium and you know, I asked one of my references, but I don't just repeat what I've read says as you well know rahamallah great scholar Ibn Rajib.

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So but the approach is really as he produced a compendium, called it that Al Jamia. So it's a deep analysis of these Hadith that Imam will put together.

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And hence it takes time and

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but the benefits, also, we pray to Allah, that there are benefits in it and the mistakes are all mine and may Allah forgive me. But the benefits are there for those who have followed it and studied, I hope those who can also access it in future in so long, and who will have the commitment to have deeper understanding and knowledge of these ahaadeeth.

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So my objective was not really to repeat what others were doing. And also there are books that you can just read with a simple analysis, but it was to go in more depth to it. And that's what I've been doing, I hope in sha Allah, not just to be verbose.

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I hope that's clear. The idea wasn't just to waffle along. And you know, there are a lot of people who can fill pages and lectures would waffle.

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And we all know waffle means I hope. It's not the one that you eat.

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But in a rhetorical sense, it means lots of words, and then no real benefit. So I hope it's not like that. But that's certainly not my objective. I actually don't like speaking, even hot, because I always feel pushed that I have to go and do them.

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Unlike what people think, maybe but

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anyway,

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we've come to length number 27.

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And you'll see from this in the next session, what I mean by not just going straight into the Hadith and start explaining is few words. We're going to digress and look a bit more as we have done before, aspects of the science of Hadith lwml Hadith aspect. So first of all, let's mention the Hadith.

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As Imam nobody mentions it remember, Imam no is Hadith. The 40s remind you, as I've said many times before, is not a hadith book of

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it's not a source book of Hadith. It's a selection made by Muslim Neverwet. You don't say Mojari Muslim Tirmidhi Imam not with fortiadc. Only an ignorant person will list them like that. And everybody's loved me with that. And therefore he hasn't mentioned even the chain.

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There are selections that other scholars made from Buhari Muslim to add to them and other supplements, etc. Al Hakim is most almost 100, for example, the supplement to Bukhari Muslim, and he gives her the food chains. It's a source book. This is not a source book of Hadith. This is a selection he made, as he says himself. Yeah, the 40 he chose approximately 42. In fact, which are the very principles of Islam, on which the whole principles are thought he fields are based on the study. And the basis on which legal rulings are made. Most legal rulings are based on these. So he's kind of picked those Hadith. But this is a selection we're looking at. Yeah. But as you know, with

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each leaf, we've gone back to where the source is, where he's taken it from. Yeah. And those sources still extent they're still available. They haven't disappeared.

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And he gives you it. When he says Rahul Buhari were Muslim, it was reported by Buhari and Muslim. So the source is taken in from his Buhari and Muslim. Yeah, those are the source books. So here we go with this one, he actually gives two versions of it. And he says, Come on. No, we're

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not giving a chain from him. To the Rawi. He's not saying through so and so he's given the sahabi Yeah, and then he gives the source book where it's mentioned with the chair. Yeah. So my memory says and the worst if there's some an Radi Allahu ion.

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And in the BA Salallahu Alaihe salam from the word Nawaz, if there's some an Rhodiola one who Sahabi from the prophets, Allah Salam who said, I'll be Rojas NL Hello, while it will Maha caffeine FC Kalba character and your Talia laziness righteousness or good

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is good conduct good behavior, good morals and sin or bad conduct? Well isn't Maha Caffee enough sick what wavers in your soul

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where it was in the soul one aspect of what are you can detect it worker if you're probably early in us and you dislike that other people know about it. That's what if Miss Yeah, but come to

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Oahu Muslim

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and then what Anwar besides diplomat but rather the Allahu and so this is a hobby another Sahabi all who said, Gee two tests Ellu annual bill.

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I have come to ask you about righteousness.

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Yeah, no, no, it is not Jay Z test tests. Ellu and above all means the prophesies themselves. Here not around we

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call an OB Solarstone Jitka tests ello and you

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Yeah, so he comes on the promised Aslan, you've come to ask me about righteousness

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rhetorical. In other words you already knows what he's come to ask him about Southern

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Jetta tests ello annual cold why beside them up but Danny could? He said I said, Nam? Yes. allah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam is deaf they call back consult your heart. Alban mathema and that

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mathema Annette la nefs what ma n e li He'll calm because righteousness is that in which your soul is content and calm and back in which your heart is content and calm.

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That's what righteousness is. Well If, on the other hand, bad conduct or sin if we want to call it that inverted commas, Maha Caffee necesito fin knifes.

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It's similar to the first of these. What wherever is in the soul? What Tara Duffy, Sabra Yeah. At any goes back and forth in the heart in the chest. Going? Yeah.

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discomfort you could say you know, it's an expression of discomfort going on. Why in attack and NASA after? Yeah. Even though people

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give you give you a legal opinion in regards to it. And can you continue to give you legal opinion regards it?

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All in favor of it. Linus tech and NASA.

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Were asked after.

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And then he says,

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For the second Hadith, so he's given Hadith on Hassan, or Awhina, who was the DE LIMA main athma Dibner humble, what da Remi be isnaad in Hudson, this hadith is hustle, good.

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It we have taken it from

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the most nuts of the two Imams. athma deeply humbled Muslim,

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and Dharam is Muslims, with a Hasson chain with a good chain.

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So we'll go through the details of the Hadith. Maybe next time on the time after there's a few things I want to mention here.

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Simonson Muslim is the first studies this one is Muslim athma. And he calls it here as some scholars have called it most of the data meet. And we'll come back to that later because data means data me who's a collector of Hadith of early times, around the time of Bihari Muslim, his book is actually solid, the way it's collected. That's the more correct term for it not Muslim. And I'll explain that to you later when we come to water Muslim days. And compared to other collections of Hadith. Why did the Atman in the humble call his book Muslims

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in the sun, but today I want to look at he says this hadith is Hasson what does that mean?

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What does that mean?

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Hassan in language means good. Nice.

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Yeah, but it doesn't mean that here.

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Yeah, in fact, some people did use the term Huson. Rarely in that in the sphere of Hadith and say, Oh, this is a nice a nice. Yeah, for example, Abdullah Abdullah bar, for example, used it occasionally. And he mentioned that this hadith is actually fabricated.

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So the ruling on the Hadith he's talking about, he says his mole door. He says do not true is fabricated. But he says, but he said good is a nice addition.

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So he's using it in the language sense to me. And it's nice, though. We're saying,

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Yeah, but we don't accept it because he's fabricated. So that's one use of it. But that's not the real use of it in regards to the technical sense of the science.

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You

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before we look at Hassan do we need to know what Assange is because Hassan is lower than safe. Saffy. Saffy means authentically, right, so it fulfills four criteria for Hadith to be suckled.

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Those Criterion are not judged by

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job the law public was walking down the road works in a butcher's

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And then he looks at these four and piXL Hadith Bukhari and Muslim or any Hadith with a chain and he said all yeah this fulfills it. I consider this as authentic.

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Of course now, these four fulfill they are looked at by the the critics of Hadith, not even those who transmitted these are not even those let's clarify who have studied Barri are Muslim at the hands of others show you the explanation of yet even Hodges big explanation Compendium explaining the Hadith for Buhari, there are people scholars who have done that those who study Tirmidhi those who study does not make them experts in critiquing the Hadith with these four principles, it's very important to understand somebody who knows lots of ideas from the IMF or Imams, and even scholars, yeah, doesn't make them a Muhaddith to be able to apply these. And some can apply them at different

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levels, there may be some who can apply them. But then there's grades of application of those four principles. This is very important.

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So just because you studied the books of Hadith doesn't mean you know these principles, how they're applied.

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That's very important. Because majority of scholars and Imam Imams will know hadith of Bihar and studied books like that they are not able to apply this.

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So I'm teaching you these, but I'll tell you, that I am not in a position to be a critique and Muhaddith. And I don't claim that I've studied Aluma Hadith, I know what the principles are. But it's my teacher and the likes of him who are experts in applying these principles in the stance, so I don't make the claim for myself either. But it's good to be as for others to be aware, the Imams, the scholars, the four kaha who are not experts in this critique of Hadith and the public to at least have a cursory realization that this is an intricate field, one of the most intricate fields, and it's interesting as well. Yeah.

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So

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the Hadith, experts are critiques of Hadith, who decide whether a hadith is authentic or accepted or rejected,

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accepted or rejected, accepted Hadith sahih or Hussam.

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All the rest are rejected. long list of different definitions. Some people put them all on the dive. But actually Dave doesn't give it justice. Because the weakness it means weak, but weaknesses of all different kinds of grants, including the sticking it fabricated, but it's not your weak, it's just made up. But those are two big 11. Accepted rejected. So we're talking in the accepted field, aren't we? Yeah. And of course, you expect authentic to be the majority here. And we'll come to Hudson, which is what we're talking about here, because this study this has on the second one.

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So for so he had these four principles, four criteria must be fulfilled. One

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is it the salad salad?

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It dissolved means connection of the chain in a chain. A div has a text and it has a chain of narrators, the chain of narrators must all link with each other back to the prophets otherwise known without any break.

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Right. That says first condition link. Yeah, link to each other means what does it mean? Link?

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It means that if Mr. Mojari says my shift reported from D from C from be from a that the Prophet saw some did this or said this then Imam Bahar is this chain must link all the way back? How does it link? He's saying I heard my teacher telling me this. And my teacher heard it from his teacher and his teacher heard it from his teacher. Alright, so hearing is one thing

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Yeah, they say I heard from

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Okay, so hearing is long. In other words, they met each other personally and heard it or, or they found it in the book in the handwriting of that teacher.

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And they know this is his handwriting and he's written it with a chain that so and so told me this and also told me this that's accepted as well.

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or, or which was used by the likes of Imam Muslim

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in a hadith, that the kuna raters who are saying, I got this from my teacher,

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that they lived at a time,

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and a place where it was possible for them to meet and have heard it from each other.

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If somebody's saying, I got this from my teacher, and he lived in the third century, and his teacher was from the first century, what is he talking about?

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So they know the critiques of Hadith. And therefore, early books were compiled to know especially the death dates of the translators. But you can tell from that birthdays often were not known in early Islamic time.

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But death days, gives you a very good idea.

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Yeah, so much apart impossible. The mess. And also, even though some people traveled, especially students of knowledge and great scholars traveled around. Yeah. But you have to have evidence of that trouble. somebody sitting in cool. Find somebody speaking the shaman says, Well, I heard Yeah, then you have to have evidence that they've actually traveled there as well. So this is the cut, that's connection of the chain. And he's investigate. It's not just a claim, you see, whether the connection is true depends on some other factors now coming. But the fact is as though connection and when the connection is broken, it cannot be authentic disagree, it cannot be accepted.

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All right, first thing connection in the chain. Second thing,

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our dalata rule what they say explicitly, Adela two means integrity, and truthfulness of the transmitters.

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Integrity. That's why the books of critics of Hadith written early time by experts in this field, they're called books of El jefe. What de jure means invalidation of a person type deal means validating the integrity of a person to be able to transmit

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Okay. So $1 is nothing to do with accuracy $1 is trustworthiness of this person. Yeah.

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That goes without saying the person the Muslim

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no good any Joe Perry from a Shia, not from Shia from Hinduism Buddhism, saying I heard from the thoughts are transmitting from the property. What? The WHO YOU WHO ARE YOU transmitting, so but it's not just Muslim. It goes beyond that. And of course, there's an element of

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when is the dialog integrity broken?

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For example, it is known the person is a drunk or deaf doing kabbah if big sense.

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cancelled before even go to interleaf Yeah, they're not trustworthy. Yeah, fast, sick.

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Muslim, but fast. Sick. What about small sins? Well, it'd be impossible for anybody to transmit anything because we all do small sins. So didn't go into nitty gritty detail. Oh, he did this today. And he did that and you know, the watching I'm sending three, you know, just Seuss after the person.

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So, small things cannot be included in that but majors and even a sin a sin has to be a sin which is agreed by the whole OMA because in some sense, somebody says this is haram. Yeah. Yeah. Molokhia says this ROM and affair say no, it's not. It's halal for you to do that. Because where there's room for if they laugh in opinion, then you don't use that as a basis for deciding Oh, well, we're going to reject all the

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all the some people, some people had he did that wrongly.

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So both balanced and best experts say no, that's not the basis.

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And when it says that data integrity also means lying, less than was most what you're looking for. You want somebody who's truthful.

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Not really about the drunkenness or anything. You want somebody who's truthful, and the person who's going around drinking not accepted that they're going to tell the truth anyway, but truthfulness is the thing. So somebody is known as a liar in society in general life when they're not going to be accepted that hadith as a truth, a truthful and trustworthy personality.

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But if somebody says

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All as truthful generally in society

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they can still be alive in Hadith

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two ways. Two ways. One,

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they made up the Hadith The intention was good Yeah, but they pretended they got it from so and so and they didn't get it for themselves so

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they're not liars out there but they're lying in this 32nd He doesn't know how to lie from so and so

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are Victor's so he's passing on a lie.

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Yeah, so it needs nice checking.

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So I'm giving you just some glimpses is not comprehensive course on Illuminati. I'm giving you some glimpses into

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what's going on here in regards to that.

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There could be people have bid ah

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some Sunni Hadith scholars rejected all she's Hadith transmitters, but not like Bihari and Muslim

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they were more balanced as long as the they're not claiming through a hadith their bid

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their innovation they using this hadith to come along as it's not that and they're known to be truthful. Yeah, they've just got made a mistake in that particular field. And this this, this is not to do with that field whether in the innovation is to separate issue and the truthful they will take them.

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Okay, so a little bit about that, but linked them with the third condition or each one is not on its own, all of them must be fulfilled.

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Right. So you got somebody the Craig chains connected, they are integral in their people have validated as being Yeah, of good character. Not liars. Yeah. Trustworthy. To tell the truth. Now we come to a third condition, blocked or Rawi

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accuracy of the transmitter.

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Right. They may be truthful. Yeah, definitely heard. But they may have mixed up the words they may have were upside down. They may have heard something and put something else can it happen? Cause it can. This is not to do with memories. This is not to do with integrity. Yeah, that's $1. This is locked.

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moleskin they say Sitka moleskin. circle means trustworthy. Musqueam means accurate.

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Yeah. And that's also checked.

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Because Hadith when they come, they hear from the teacher? Well, the critiques of it is go back to the teacher, look at his work and see did he say that? And then go back and ask the teacher and say your student is claiming that you said this. So the teacher will repeat? And they'll find out? Well, actually, he's saying something different. He's saying something totally different. Can't be relied on this student.

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Yeah. And this is because knowledge is being widespread. It's not coming down one chain, there's lots of students, then the look at your student, and then check it with a teacher and that student for that hadith 10 Other students agree with the exact words this particular student has said, this other student is the only one coming with anomalous statement.

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Understand, see, they can now say well, this one, not reliable, in that,

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that accuracy.

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So accuracy.

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Now accuracy.

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Some scholars of Hadith were very strict about it, like Imam Malik, for example. He wouldn't take a hadith. He said, unless the person transmitting the Hadith had understood it.

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Had enough understand they weren't just translating it.

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In their head ban was even stricter. If there had been is like another collector, a collector of Hadith from the fourth century, who has his famous Sahai in the headband.

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And his condition here is strictly says that he only took a Hadith from one who is thinks is a fatty, a scholar

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who said the others may mix it up, etc, etc.

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But

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I'll have to double Baghdadi from the critics of the day who came later as the best. And that's the approach of the most balance for

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fixer upper teeth Lightbody Muslim and others is that it doesn't have to be a scholar

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doesn't have to be somebody because the prophesy Islam said in authentically these not Allah who

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may Allah make radiant, the one who takes Hadith from me and transmits it as he or she heard it. And then he said

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roba mobile love, oh, I'm in Sami.

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Perhaps the one receiving the Hadith from this intermediary who heard it from me, will understand that better than the one who is hearing from me.

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So the key comes later.

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But he's transmitting accurately what he heard. Yeah, but the one who receives it? Oh, he's have a different level of understanding.

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Yeah. So it's not necessary to have this but you see where they're going with it. They want accuracy. So was it a condition that the Hadith has to be exactly at as the Prophet saw some said and as a hobby? Huzzah.

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Some said? Yes. Others said no. Well, that shows you itself. Yeah. Even the Hadith which talks about transmitting from the Prophet sighs So accurately? Yeah, there's difference in the words, they're all authentic.

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Because Sahaba when the hearing if three Sahaba hear the same story, you see, as I've shown you before, in a hadith, once to Hobbes saying something slightly different animals adding to it, the other one sees it in a slightly different way. They're all authentic, but it gives you a fuller picture when you Yeah, so it's not word for word, except for nowadays, when it has been finally documented in the second third century in the books of Hadith like what Imam Malik and Bihari Muslim, then nowadays, it is best to transmit the Hadith accurately as it is in the books of Hadith.

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That is best.

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Maybe a faqih, and Alan, who's

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talking and talking about their legal opinion on an issue they can transmit and paraphrase it.

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Yeah, because they already started the lease and now they're paraphrasing.

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But not the Joe Public. Because Joe Public, if everybody starts paraphrasing, you know what we say in English language about Chinese whispers.

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We know what that means, don't we? So A is from Zed right paraphrases, that passes it to be be paraphrased. Again, passes it to C, C, paraphrase it and passing it to D in the same year, in the same place, by the time you get to G the story will be completely different to what it was over here one day.

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So Joe Public, no chance. Do not try and transmit Hadith, except by the words and in fact, urge to scholars as well really, because scholars transmitting these studies have often made mistakes in their, in their scholarship by not referencing the Hadith with his words. So they've misunderstood misinterpreted because they didn't have the Hadith words to and so it's dangerous even for them. So what about public then in the sun, so anyway, this is to do with accuracy of the transmitter.

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Which comes

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also part of that comes in the fourth condition. Some scholars of Hadith said these conditions are fulfilled, the hadith is accepted. We don't need the fourth condition, generally, generally.

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Imam cheerful barely, Rahim Allah. That was his approach. He accepted the first three and, and didn't really want to delve into number four, which I'm going to mention. As a consequence, my teacher and others had the theme of equal or greater caliber in critique of Hadith said that he was lacks in some of his judgment of a hadith because because his approach was these three conditions are fulfilled. That said, I'm gonna accept it as authenticating.

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So, he, the problem happened with the fourth condition, you see, which he said is not so clear, whereas others made it clear. So what is the fourth condition just to say rahamallah with the greatest love or respect to share

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Barney,

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who actually his big role shall Barney in the last year was reviving the importance of authentic, acceptable Hadith as compared to rejected Hadith for the folk AHA of this ummah, who had fallen

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into, into using all kinds of advice and I came across in the SEC 6070 Naked read books by all kinds of scholars in Islam. And we were early in our understanding of Islam in those years so we've come across all kinds of these courting as I started studying deeper the Sharia and especially alumina Hadith. Yeah, I realized that most of what I've been studying in the books of Islam by scholars, most of the Hadith were either fabricated or weak.

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So I had to re learn so much. Yeah. Yeah. But shall Barney's great role was to bring that to the fall, even if his corroboration was not of the highest level. But the the role he played in waking up the OMA and especially the scholars. Yeah. And even others of knowledge to the realization check the these you're even discussing whether it's authentic or not now when I'm having long, laborious discussions, but I think he's saying this, I think he's saying this, and he walks in and say, Do you realize it's fabricated what you're talking about? End of discussion, isn't it?

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You don't need to have any discussion.

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So first before you talk to anybody, and that's the great rulership of Barney did clay. Yeah.

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And yet, there were great scholars around who using Hadith. Yeah.

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So they're all scholars in the latter part of the of the 20th century. Yeah, 1950s onwards, etc. They're all have a great respect and all for shareholder money for doing that. Because perhaps that was done 5060 100 years before him by others. But again, with time, this idea sort of disappeared and got diluted.

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The fourth thing, and I'm sorry, this is technical today, I told you it would be but I hope you find it interesting. Even the noise and I'm simplifying it for you.

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I'm simplifying it from the Arabic in which we were taught by our teachers to now into English so you can understand bits of nuances or worrying symbol the fourth condition is Salam that to mean a Latin was

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that the hadith is free now Illa.

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Breaking the chain What's that?

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A defect is not is at least accepted or rejected rejected condition to

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integrity. The one of the reporters in the chain is a liar

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or mixed yeah is a liar

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is that is this a defect?

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So defects, because this is integrity of the resonator is not fulfilled, visit.

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Cancel defect.

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Number three, you find out this particular person in the chain makes tons of mistakes all the time. Even though the Yeah, the truthful, defect rejected. So why do we need to have number four saying absence of defect because number one, two and three is already telling you what's needed.

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You follow me?

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Number four is not talking about that.

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That's why I said number four is hidden defects.

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Because those defects are just mentioned, apparent defects. Even a weak person in hadith is able to detect them.

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Yeah,

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not only a person, even a weak person in lwml Hadees which is not even a majority of the Imams is able to pick that one up. What is hidden the fact that

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briefly explain it here.

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Hidden defect only applies to Hadith which have fulfilled all the three previous criteria.

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Yeah, apparent defect. Is any of these three not being fulfilled? Hidden defect. So it is connected the chain.

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The transmitters are all rival. Yeah. And number three, they are all known for their accuracy.

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Yeah. So what's going to be the problem? How are these found?

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Briefly, again, without open this is a very technical topic, often not understood even Bible Hunter themes, some of them, others do understand.

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So in this, the critic of Hadith lines of all the chairs, which are all authentic, the chains,

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they're all authentic.

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And all the texts the Mattoon and starts now comparing between them.

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When they compare, they find the in one chain in one transmission, there's something at odds with the rest of them. They're all authentic chains. But there's a problem. It's only found by bringing them all together. Yeah. And that was similar to what I said to you before. Yeah.

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So 10 students, they're all known to be students of Imam so and so. Yeah, they all transmit this hadith. And their students are also known as well. They're all trustworthy and reliable. Yeah. But when you bring what they transmit together, you find that this one person has sent something which is at odds with what the others are saying. Even though this one person is normally seen as reliable, authentic and accurate.

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accurate, but they made a mistake here.

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You know why? Because nobody from human beings is of the accuracy level of 100% accuracy.

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So the only way you're going to find that defect is by comparison,

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not just by looking at a single chain, this is how you can get misled. If you look at just a single chair, you might think oh, it's everything fine here. Yeah. But critics of the didn't do that. You make a whole web of transmitted by social to him, to him to him to him, and then what's his chain? And then what's the text that's been tracked? And then when you make the comparison, ah, well, the one that Imam Abu Dhabi has transmitted here is got a problem with it.

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Just giving you as an example, compared to the one that Imam Muslim has taken, and he didn't take this particular narration, why not? Because there was a problem with

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Okay, so giving you a curse, so it is hidden defect. This number four is only in transmissions which are fulfilled all three of the previous ones.

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Yeah, not apparently effect had an effect.

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Okay. So it has to be free from that for it to be really authentic.

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So for conditions

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that is an authentic hadith,

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now

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the only been transmitted, they can't compare.

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Yeah, you rarely find that because you might find one trans meter at the top with the sahabi often is once a hobby.

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Yeah, but it doesn't stay like that. Because their students are many. The students of them are many. It keeps on spreading. Doesn't come like that.

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Now,

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Imam Tirmidhi

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is interesting that he uses

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in his collection called El Jamia al Jamba Tirmidhi, the compendium of mantra. This is also called Sana Tirmidhi.

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But he didn't call it that.

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Jamia Tirmidhi some people call it El jefe. Some scholars call the Jamia site,

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which he didn't call it which is not accurate to call it that mantra myth. He didn't call it because he put in it Hadith also, which he criticized and said this is not authentic. This is weak because of songs. So yeah. Whereas the Hollywood Muslim calls they're sorry.

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They put the condition mantra they never put that condition. Yeah.

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So anyway mom family

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he uses a lot a term called he says Hadith Hassan who sahih.

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Hadith Hassan aside.

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And people he is the most famous for using this term. But he's not the only one who used it. Because his teachers from the likes of Imam Buhari, that's the teacher of Monterrey, he used it. And also others like.

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I will,

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I will have them rising.

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Yeah. One of the teacher monthly also uses the term as well. But in mom Tirmidhi clarifies when he uses this term.

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So he's using Hassan and Sahai both terms. If you take them individually, they have different meanings, as we're going to come to when I started all this debate to try and explain to you what Hassan eith is a member.

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So why did he use Hassan Hassan site?

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Customers, so he isn't something in between Huson good Hadith and say, That's not why he's using it,

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apparently would speak seem like that, but it's not. Actually it's a very authentic hadith is an opinion. He says Hassan Asahi, where it is not authentic only from the chain that he's giving in his collection. But even he says hustlers say it means there is another Hadith with the same meaning as I'm putting to you with a with an authentic chain as well. Another authentic chain. In other words, there's more than one authentic chain. Yeah, for this hadith that I'm putting here. Yeah, so it's corroborated. So he calls it other Hadith Hustler, sorry. That's what it means by Hassan is say specifically, monetarily, that's what he means when he uses it. There was more than one chain of

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narration for this authentically and that one's authentic as well.

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Alright.

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So now we come to Hassan Hadith. What is Hassan Hadith? There are two kinds of Hassan

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one which is the say hustle is earthy.

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It is hustle, hear hustle means good. It means acceptable. It doesn't mean it's a beautiful Hadith.

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Beauty beautiful in His words. It's a technical term. Yeah, Hassan means good and acceptable Hadith. And there's two kinds, one which is good in its corroboration in itself. What does that mean? It means that all the four, four conditions or you could say

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the first three conditions of connected chain

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integrity of the transmitter accuracy of the transmitter that accepted they're all fulfilled except the third one which is they sometimes miss make mistakes. They're not as accurate as the other narrators. They make some mistakes. If you look at their narrations you'll find that compared to some who are sick, Elmo thin and Moschino who are very reliable, this one we call Sudoku.

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Sudoku means that truthful but they make some mistakes in their transmissions. So the level falls short.

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Yeah, in the accuracy

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in condition number three

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Yeah. So they make some mistakes. Not lots of mistakes because they made lots of mistakes they become guys weak transmitters. They are so do they make some mistakes they so when somebody like that is in the chain

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Yeah, that hadith now if it fulfills everything else becomes Hadith Hassan

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Hassan

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how do we treat it now? What's the special thing about how these hustled compared to Heaviside that we're going to do two things

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firstly, because it has got that

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slower level slightly even though it's accepted at ease.

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We must

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investigate this particular leaf with more care

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Yeah,

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investigate with more care, to see, to see, in case there is a hidden defect here.

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You know, we talked about hidden defect, we put them all together authentically, this one, because it is not even sunny it is Hassan, we're going to look even more carefully.

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You understand? That's the first thing. Second thing

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we do research

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into the contents of the Hadith. Yeah, to see if there's anything

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from authentic reports which agree with it.

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Other authentic reports on the same matter, which are in agreement with what's in this hadith, what we're calling hustle.

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If so, again, it passes the test becomes acceptable. However, if it is alone, and it has no support from other authentic hadith, especially on a legal matter

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it's the only one. Right, then

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we don't accept it as an evidence.

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Because it said header logs

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are loggerheads with other authentic reports is come like, you know, if we have authentic reports, all of them and one stands out counter to the others. Yeah. Then we call that report shares an anomalous, anomalous and it becomes rejected, that's a hidden defect in it. This one is not even authentic. It's happened. Yeah. And then it doesn't. It doesn't have to be that it's at loggerheads with the other authentic reports. But we don't find any authentic report, agreeing or saying anything similar to it, we rejected.

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That's the difference why Hassan is treated differently from authentic and there's a difference. However

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that kind of Hadith, the one I've just explained from a Rawi who is Saduak not set aside it is a Rawi like is Hawk

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who's a blaze Hawk for those who turn zero with me.

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Muhammad Yunus hug the famous transmitter of the car the prophet is also the most famous transmission of the seat on the Prophet SAW so goes back to this up. But in this talk, that's why Sierra and your Centricity question marks.

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According to Mohawk, the theme Ignis hug at best, was Saduak transmitter

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wasn't

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stick up Mukhin.

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In other words, he made mistakes.

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So in his talk is in a narration of the Hadith.

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He said, Look,

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you understand what salute means now transmitter of authentic transmitter of Hadith which are acceptable, but he makes mistake. So if even a sock is in the chain, and comes with a hadith, and that's the only Hadith coming with that meaning, and there is no other authentic that is coming with similar meaning that at least is rejected. And even a sock is well known to bring a hadith like that. And those are these are then called Moncure. These mancha rejected mancha because he's the only one bring it and he's not trustworthy level of this corroboration.

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You understand? That's at best, because Mr. Malik had much worse things to say about in the south, compared to others. Malik is big Muhaddith and critique of heavy, but there seems to be some personal issue between MA sovereign ma Malik as well. Remember, Malik called him a liar and all sorts. Anyway, the point is that the rest of the Mojave Fein all agreed that in a sock was to do

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not the high level of accepting so when it comes with the heavies, that's what we said.

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So what they say about the Saduak they use a technical term had they seen that yoke that Jalisco who were younger fee Hey, why goons are fee. The hadith of a sodic Saduak person is written and considered and it is looked at and investigated. You don't throw it away.

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it

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okay, like is it was fabricated second kind of Hassan Hadith there's two kinds

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technically is that there is a problem in the cane there may be a break somewhere

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in the chain

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or

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similar to the first one one of the transmitters in the chain

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they are trustworthy but they make lots of mistakes.

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They are not lie as though

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it's very important.

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Second kind of has an ADIZ is called hustling gravy. The first one we're Huston desserty it is of a good level by itself. Hustling Ryrie means it needs support from other Hadith to make it happen. Otherwise it would be weak because we've already said a break in the chain makes the Hadith rejected.

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A transmitter who is not accurate makes tons of mistakes rejected all right, but the scholars are Hadith see these two? Yeah. Not an ugly break and not liars. Yeah, as something Hadith which can be written and they need thorough investigation to see if there's other Hadith with similar meaning

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with similar meaning

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which have a break, which is somewhere else in the chain, not in the same place because there's no point otherwise it's just the same break somewhere else in the chain. And it has another transmission or as another transmitter who's also not so accurate not the same one so that they can they say they corroborate. They say Hadith al mancebo Hadith Bife Yeah, it is. It is weak, but it can be repaired,

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repaired by another similar or better chain

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which on its own is safe as well. So they use this to repair the chain and then if it's possible they call hassling lady, again, especially hassling Ryrie cannot be used in matters of legal decisions and rulings that may be used on its own for forgot LM for saying this is nice to do that's nice to do real. That's the best you can use for these kinds of things. on its own. It doesn't have that value. You can't use hassling it Hadith with no other authentic hadith and say right, the Prophet saw some made this ruling. No it doesn't is too weak.

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Yeah, the problem.

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The problem let me just mention in the second type of Hassan liiga era hadith is with the latter day scholars of Hadith today, and Imams and scholars up today. They became very lacks with this

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when Imam Tirmidhi and his teachers and those before them like the likes of Muhammad in the humble was great Muhammad and critical body and Mr. Buhari and others, and we're using the word Hussam Lee Haley, they say mom would take as a lady hurry, because he didn't want to use his opinion. He'd reused this kind of facilities. But his husband had this was different or more like, compared to now nowadays. Remember I said rejected at ease. Generally, they say bye for these in that is levels of weakness. So now there's lots of the scholars in the last two or 300 years many, they just took a kind of weakness and said, Oh, we got two weak ones here. Right? We'll bring them together one

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sports the other we'll call it hustle. That's nonsense.

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That is not having any deep knowledge and ability and Hadith, because it's not saying any level of weakness. Yeah, as small weakness in it.

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And the other one only has a small weakness, and then you also don't use it for making rules and regulations and new. This is very important.

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Very important. So Latter Day scholars in the last two or 300 years became very lacks in this field. So I'm very wary of present day scholars using Hassan Hadith in their books, because I wonder

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where they got it from where they got to the conclusion Assam who made the conclusion as compared to Imam telemovie saying Hassan

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when he says hustle because he's much more careful with this

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so, demand committee explains himself.

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Nam Tirmidhi was really the first person to technically bring to the fore the idea of smpd

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Yeah.

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Mum Tirmidhi who died in 273 Hijiri

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was really the first person to bring it technically to the thought and he explains it he says in his book on LOL, which is at the end of his book, LOL means defects. So he's explaining that in his book, what he means what I have called he says Huston in this book I'll Jamia mantra merely saying I mean by that it has a good chain

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all such Hadith with no transmitter accused of lies and that's not saying they're not making mistakes lies they're not accused of lies all such a deal with no transmitter accused of lies and it is not shares

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that means anomalous standing out against others which are authentic coming with something anomalous as an anomaly. It is not chars and it is transmitted in different chain with a similar meaning. That is in my opinion, Hassan Hadees similar chain meaning it has a similar level of weakness Yeah, in my opinion, it is hustle

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Okay, so he's describing here hustling lady

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even Roger up the evil Roger who we Yeah

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from the eighth century,

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who's sharp we're looking at for the FBI in 14 He makes a comment on this in explaining because Ivan Roger wrote a sharp an explanation to the book of Eman Tirmidhi his book on the effects mum families book on the effect evil regime comes to explain it because some people misunderstood what he said. So even Rajiv says explaining what Imam tremolo He just said he said it he means what he's saying Imam Timothy

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he's saying a hadith transmitted by sick cattle Adam, they are trustworthy transmitters, but makes many mistakes

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and most from such a person has

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and most from such a person has mistakes as long as not accused of lies. So the person makes a lot of mistakes that's why there was a wreath is weak they're not accused the lies though.

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Which is what people mix up today or are all Hassan as long as they are not anomalous against a sahih Hadith.

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Yeah. And in the end, it means its meaning is transmitted by a number of others similar chains. He's saying what I've already explained to you basically In summary, even relatively saying is saying this is Hasson devaluing amount remedy is talking about

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so.

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To finish off with for today, on Hassan Hadith

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a few more things, even Taymiyah said

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from the Hanabi la de Grey even Taymiyah. He said Timothy was the first to divide Hadith into sahih. Hasan and dive.

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It was not known before that but it was divided into Sahai and life.

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Yeah.

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The previous scholars before Him because they took a son of a higher level lidda T and put it inside and hustling lady. Yeah. They tended to stick it with life. Yeah, unless it was of good caliber for predecessors of him.

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They was have to type that which could not be used at all was rejected and thrown away. And that which could be used and could be repaired what I said earlier to you that solid solid

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may be the first to use Hussen as Hadith, acceptable Hadith and he clarifies his own definition.

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But in reality, those before him and sometimes

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and at the same time as him as well, or behind the theme, use the same idea without actually explaining it. The difference is Timothy explained it. So he wasn't the only one who use this idea of facilities

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such as Imam Malik, who use the word

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Hassan Hadith. Yeah.

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He said Hagia Hadith husband for Hadith, which was not at the level of Saudi olive no Madine, the great Mohammed, this critic of Hadith a teacher of mumble Hari. He used similar term as well. He used that for a hadith he said this hadith has a Hasson chain. Not Saudi he said, reported by Amara Yasser the prophesy Salam said, Man Canada was named fifth dunya Jah Allahu Allah holy surname phenol, the yarmulke Yama

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Whoever has two faces in the world.

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You know what we mean? Neither two faced? I don't mean

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to face as in Batman.

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To face whoever is two faced in dunya Allah will make for them to tongues. Yeah, from the fire of * from fire on the Day of Resurrection, the love to tongues of fire because the two faces to do what they're saying.

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So that's what a tones to tongues of fire. Mom Eliana Medina says this hadith is hustle

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Imam Buhari

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Imam Tirmidhi his student transmits some Hadith from Nam Buhari, quoting my mum Buhari is saying this elite is awesome.

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Yeah.

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So that's just to give you the it's not something that's just been made later.

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So

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that's about Hassan Hadith. This particular

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Hadith that Imam Nam was mentioned. He saying Hadith Hassan, the second part of it in number 27

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is Hadith Hassan Nika URI

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has to leave it. Yeah, because it is a weak chain, but it has other chains. Yeah, which corroborate it.

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And what it has in it, as long as we don't use it on its own for legal application. And if you notice, when we come to see the Hadith, the translation again, it's not really to do illegal rulings, but talking more about the state of inside something going around around and how you feel about matters. Yeah, even though a legal opinion comes about and we'll explain that later in some. Okay.

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That was something about the technicalities of salary and hassle. Any questions? Clarify for what we cover today?

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Yes,

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we save

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the evidences in writing also accepted. Writing is.

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Yeah, my mind didn't like the idea of writing a preferred oral transmission. But majority of the others accepted and it's as we'll see next time when I mentioned the Muslim Baphomet where they said eath is most not of Azmuth. Yeah. The son of Imam Muhammad Abdullah in the AMA live now humble, transmits partly from what he heard from his father, but his father wrote the book Muslim battement. And what he didn't hear he says, Yeah, I found in the hat in the book of my father in his handwriting, and he finds a chain. Yes. So it is it is one of the ways of it, the solid listener of the connection of the chain,

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along with the writings corroborated and it's not because writing, you couldn't authenticate the character person who's necessarily written unless you knowing the handwriting is advised to be done.

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snetor writing is only there for connection of the chain part of

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requirements. Remember, number one Fussa deep connection of the chain

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writing bit if you got it in the writing of the person authenticating you only fulfilled number one, number two,

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not from the writing. So now you're gonna have to know about the person from it

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to meet the person who's actually well, you still have to do that if you've got it in writing. Some people said writing is more accurate. You know why? Because you're not relying on

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on hips and memorization is written.

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All right? So for example,

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we have now Imam Bukhari and Muslim has been since they wrote it, it's been passed manuscripts and written again and passed down the generation till this day we are brought in Muslim All right.

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So

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now we have some people,

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scholars with the greatest of love or respect for them, I don't denounce them who say I have the hadith of Buhari. I have it through my chains from my teacher, his teacher, his teacher, going back the 1200 years or so back to remember hiring. I can write you the chain. I heard it

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read from the hiring

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right like my teacher says

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what's the need for that?

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Yeah, and people saw mashallah, he's got a chain all the way back to Buhari Well, I couldn't open behind him.

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Before Imam Hari I needed the chain. Mambo hurry I've got access to it. So I can just go straight to Mr. Buhari and say Paula Muhammad, I've always

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Buhari all Yeah, that he heard from his chef so there's a chain

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so this chain from now is superfluous. There's no need for it Maha his manuscript and writings there. Okay. So that

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and and I don't need to rely on somebody's memory now is written down remember? Hurry? Yeah.

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So it's written the document. And of course here now we don't need to go into

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everybody knows a mum and mum. As far as Imam Bukhari and Muslim is concerned, the whole Ummah knows about their integrity. Yeah.

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Yeah, because

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Oh, right. I was just gonna say it because some transmitters, the notecard critics found. So you'll find that in when the transmitter and Hadith and talking, especially in the books of invalidation and validation, integrity, you'll find they talk about a transmitter and they say, he is accurate. When he is transmitting from his written book.

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When he is dictating without his book, he is not to be relied upon, because he makes lots of mistakes.

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You'll find that all they say he is accurate when he was young. If he's transmitting the students taking it from when he was old.

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Don't rely on me.

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Sorry, somebody's asking a question. So not only can I was asking, So in summary, what you're saying so he has an can be followed, except for husband can't be followed for legal jury. Prudence

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Other than that, the boss to be followed?

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They accepted these. Yes.

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They come under that category. Yeah.

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All right. Yeah. Yeah.

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Yeah. Hassan can be followed as long as it's not on its own. But legal rulings.

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If it has other corroboration, especially hustled desire tea, which is in itself is integral and good, then they are okay with other evidences to support it. So we look at it more more carefully. But it doesn't bring anything new.

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Any other questions?

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Yes, this is a true meaning of Saheeh. Authentic Yeah. Does it have any other means it's authentic, authentic. So meaning, good bike, Walker, and they used it. So they've use the language meaning

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Now you're talking about technical meaning by the melodic theme

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yeah

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I mean in language Sahai can mean also it's okay. But technical meaning yeah like I said you have some means is nice it's not meaning that here as a means is less than authentic

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it's less than safe but the same level

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with a technical use this technically series has our work absolutely. And there's no doubt it's absolutely yes

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okay Baraka low Fico. Technically it was but I hope it was useful for for you as an introduction to some aspects of sorry and acid and

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working with that one on your handling later on.

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