Mh Podcast #7 – Hadith Preservation & Controversial Questions to Mufti Muneer

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So I want to come on over to catch on how you guys doing this is the seventh episode of The mph podcast. And I'm joined by a very, very special guest on air, who is otherwise known as the disciple. He's a graduate from the student of the laws of Medina. And he's well known as well for his excellent gurus

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on how to disciple YouTube channels that correct that, namely YouTube channel. Yeah, that's right. That's right. That's right.

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And so actually, one of the things that he's known for is being able to, to kind of prioritize himself, synthesize Islamic knowledge with practical knowledge of the world, and be very much flexible in terms of his understanding of religion, and balanced in his approach when dealing with very controversial issues. Pleasure to have you on the show.

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Pleasure to be hosted. Thank you. I really, really appreciate it.

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Kind of like the last time we were in America was in San Francisco, right? Yes, I think it was. It was in San Francisco.

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Sacramento, Sacramento. That's right.

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In the bay with Edward tabash. And you're there the pleasure of meeting given you a

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real pleasure

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to come back to the UK. inshallah, hopefully, flights open up, you know, when after, I think it's open now. Yeah. So when we're ready, you know,

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in quarantine for 14 days?

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Well, I wanted to start off by asking and is, obviously you've gone through a rigorous process of less student of knowledge type material, and you went to the University, you've done studies there. If someone wants to start now, learning the religion of Islam understand the Quran and the Sunnah. What kind of plan would you put for them in place? What kind of thing would you put for them? Where should they start? This is a question a lot of people ask, Where should we start in terms of understanding the deed?

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recommend, what kind of program would you recommend for them? Clear Bismillah Alhamdulillah, I would say,

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support can enroll,

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you either want to be you have the availability of a teacher,

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a mentor, a guide, regardless of the level, someone's with you all the time. So once a week, once a month, even online, or you're totally self taught. And you don't have a teacher available, you don't have a structured program in front of you available. And sometimes in 2020, in a virtual war COVID-19 will have a mixture of the two, have a teacher in person, but also have access to a wealth of knowledge, a wealth of recordings, lessons, etc. So if you have a teacher and an instructor, in person, we're talking about a real life person, that of course best to ask them and let them guide you, and let them summarize and break down and simplify things for you. If you don't have a teacher,

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then you wouldn't have to do that yourself. And that's not necessarily a disadvantage in 2020. Me personally, I have a student

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in New York City, one of my students will be doing a lecture together once, this one maybe three, four years ago. And he said that ignorance and 2017 or 2017 is a choice. It's a choice. It's not like back in the day in which only the aristocrats had access to knowledge. Only people who have high birth had access to certain types of knowledge, people of certain races could read and had access to libraries. Only only people that had access, money could travel and 2020 every single of the laws at the time they can Harry has access to not some knowledge, but a wealth of knowledge, a wealth of knowledge. And all of these things are in light of the different revolutions of the world,

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the Industrial Revolution,

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the concept of empires, falling colonies,

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people winning their independence, globalization, etc. So all of these things play a huge role, a huge role on access and availability towards knowledge imaginable delta and Milan Tada. As you know, in his Syrah, the Amir the governor of buster, after they had a lot of fighting, a lot of problems, different revolts and rebellions, revolutions big fitna that was known and Buster and a time I would old, so the city or much of the city was burnt, burnt to a crisp. Many things were destroyed. Many people were killed, lives were wasted, people were violated. And the governor of Missouri he wanted to rebuild bustelo he wanted to you know, make it a sprawling metropolis once more you want to

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rebuild it and from the plans or from his his tax.

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was to make buses once more a heartland of knowledge and a center of knowledge, a stronghold of look at the wisdom of this leader, this political leader now because hikma and he knew that he meant that we got older Mr. Tata was the best or at least one of the best in the business at the time. One of the most learning people have knowledge of IDs. So he man he made an offer. It offered him obviously a place to stay place to live a way of surviving, you know, etc. But he puts stipulations upon that window. And one of the stipulations that he placed upon him was, he says that you will come to the Royal Palace, and your whole classes for Hadeeth for me and my sons, me and my sons, the princes or

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you know the Amir's under me, you'll give us personal classes. And obviously, the men are Bosler. You can't sit with this servant, this peasant, this person was asleep, this person of this ancestry, I can't sit with Dennis, it's an embarrassment, humiliation. And he made other conditions stipulations. Mm, I would go over him alongside he agreed to them, except for that condition. And he said that knowledge cannot be for one class. Knowledge cannot be for an aristocrat. Without the peasantry, knowledge has not been someone of a bloodline over DNA over genealogy. So the moral of the story was is that that amid, he was following through in the tradition, is that there's

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knowledge only for certain people for certain classes. But in 2020, within a number of milliseconds, not a second seconds, milliseconds, you press one button, and you have a wealth of in in front of you a wealth of it. All right, and obviously, that's a blessing. And that's also a curse, if we care for as well. So with that being said, we have to understand that knowledge is ignorance is a choice and our times it is a choice. So those brothers who want to study sisters who want to study they want to benefit. I think oftentimes, when you talk about it too much, we dramatize it too much. We romanticize it too much instead of just doing it, Miss Mila, and just because you start off on the

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wrong foot, or you don't have everything proper in the beginning doesn't mean that you can't change. We know the famous navigational companion, some of them, they said, Yeah, and he put up another email where they sent an Effie Nia we had no specific intention when we started sinking in tomatoes or going to near to that then afterwards a law gave us the proper intention. That would be around a long time he said concerning this FM he said the enter new forces Akita tech Belgian, your souls are never pleased with ignorance, pure foes good people. They're never comfortable just being ignorant. So the concept is that they started off didn't have the proper intention. And then they don't want

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again. So with that being said, a teacher, a program curriculum, we always say howdy disciple, the philosophy has to come first. And we're very strong proponents for called the pop culture. And I don't mean by pop culture actors and singers and dancers and musicians, PLP meaning, purity, of philosophy, purity of philosophy, so our mindsets have to be correct before we even think about taking a step. And the people, I don't think their philosophy is pure, when it comes to seeking people think I have to seek knowledge in this country, or with this person, or just like this, and I have to say this

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knowledge is up here, first and foremost. And once you get it up here and your philosophy is pure, everything physical becomes easier. So therefore, the curriculum or your teacher, inshallah Tada, choose something simple. It should be something clear. It should be something easy and digestible. Something that you can take small bites, somebody can walk slowly, and gradually build and line up your momentum inshallah Tada. So, baby steps are important. longevity is important. ease and simplicity. And it goes back to the purity of philosophy. Many people they think we have a book method and 40 100. No, we, we have a shark, which is 50 pages. And the author, isn't that known, or

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isn't that famous? Isn't that repeated. And then we have a 500 page explanation of a great, great famous scholar, your beginning student thinks Oh, I through the 500 page book that he can't handle. He can't understand. It's way too much. It's way above and beyond him. But because his philosophy isn't pure. He ignores the 50 page explanation. And eventually he quits. They get burnt out. Ship land, use the dictionary every two seconds, every word in jumps onto another book, and another class. And those are the brothers and the sisters. I'm pushing him we see five years later, 10 years later, not studying anymore. dropping out of school. I'm back home. What happened? I thought you

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went Medina? Oh, well, you know, you know, because they didn't take the proper steps and and progressiveness to develop Alright, so your teacher or yourself, whatever program you use.

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Medina, Egypt, Yemen, South Africa whatever program you use, it should be simple and easy. And it should be a step to build up your momentum. And then you start taking jumps and leaps later on bitten la tada whatever that program may be as far as what to study first, then before we even get into core n, and before we even get into the Arabic language, once more I would say is, you should dig further into the culture of Talabani.

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dig further into the culture, read the books, listen to the lectures sit in the classes about how to use the knowledge. And what is this good analogy? What isn't this to the knowledge, because those are the things that allow you to have longevity,

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jumping in and out of the class, Arabic pena de Cadena as you burn out, but you have to become ingrained and engrossed with the poem. And I am a student of knowledge, I love knowledge and I want to seek it. When I'm in jail. Whether I'm in the UK, was I'm in the scorching sands of Arabia, or Mauritania, wherever you are, the mindset, everything begins and ends with the mind. So start off with the adaptive polyp and a humbler in Arabic. There are countless books in English, the challenge books and lectures, and your teacher, he's a good teacher, the first thing that he's going to try to do is to get you to, to be devoted to this art, this culture of seeking knowledge and being a

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student of knowledge for real, and not a fraudulent one.

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You know, when you were saying that when you were saying about a widowed story, Pamela, I was thinking about the age of the Quran, where no Holly Salaam when I saw the shadow, and the last one was Pantera, describes his story. And then people says, you know, like a wet tobacco out of the room, and then Hello, no need to leave the meaning. lowly class and and this idea is even repeated fire remember as well in social and on? Well, lots of Hong Kong says the same thing to masala, you know.

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arabinose bad deal, right? Yeah. So

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the knowledge is actually for all us as an old people.

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The beautiful oneness is throughout the Quranic discourse. No, always. And that's a beautiful thing about our religion. And I'm not kind of outlining that story, because it was actually a very profound story, I don't think many people would have come across. And something else I wanted to mention as well, based on the last comment that you made was a lack of tolerable Elmo, the mannerisms, the etiquettes, and spirituality has to come with it, a book that changed my life and reading it

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is belatedly there.

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In the beginning of the first couple of chapters, he demarcates. And it's actually translated to English. It's called the beginning of violence or something like that. And he says that if you're, if you're,

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if you're doing top line, if you're trying to learn in order to get to to compete with your peers, you know, then you're basically

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Yeah, and so it's what what kind of like, this is a beautiful thing, because number one, you're saying is open them is open. But number two, also, you have to have the right kind of spirit, psycho spiritual state before

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coming to tolerable and

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on a really practical level, you mentioned a couple of books at the end, if someone now is okay with that, and, and he or she wants to now bark upon just a very basic this person, just let's say, for example, wasn't practicing Islam now it's time to practice Islam. And extremely basic program, what would what would they start with an extremely basic program?

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By? Um, well, first and foremost, an extremely and I have a very important point, you mentioned about the spirituality, and the psycho spiritual realm.

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Because it

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of course, the works that came after Saudis. Here, illuma, Dean, the metatarsal met several different versions of that Molly that's clean, and has cost again. And in the beginning of all of those books, there is Caitlyn, and he talks about seeking knowledge for to not force your parents compete competing. And that's, that's very, very, very stuck in our society. And as you can see, this is actually translated into English as well. I think.

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It's quite, it's not the cousin or something. Yeah, there are several.

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Then you have, he also mentioned about how people, they'll focus on the technical knowledge and ignore the spirituality behind it, and they don't seek the knowledge of the soul and that's very stark as well. People they seek knowledge just for the technicalities, finance

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Flan Flan Flan but they know their soul. And that's an issue at the end of the day, a very simple basic easy program for person 10 key points or 1010 key guidelines to seek knowledge

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excellent book in Arabic and English under ks lashup. Let us see let me by Abdullah so thick, that's an Arabic and in English as well as a very concise lean book that gives you 10 main successes or pieces of success to seek knowledge. That's right. And other books as well. Afterwards, Muslim be denied to Allah, he should learn the basics of the recitation of the Quran. The basics of how to recite the Quran properly, not to be attachment Master, but the basic simple proper recitation of the five prayers. Alright. Also be nice Allah I would advise that Muslim to learn the things that he needs to answer in the grave. The three questions that every Muslim is wanting to face and of course

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some of the best of those books is suited for that of living under the what however, Mr. Tyler Davis, obviously he came later on. And then scholars who wrote vines vines on Islam way before his time with his book is simplify is easy, is laid out and is free from Christianity. prothesis Sharma problem free. So very important book for any basic Muslim, let alone a student of knowledge. It's a very small book as well like 10 pages or something. Yeah, and even smaller versions than that, which is in English as well. even smaller versions. Okay. Another very important book as I lead you back to hottie Metro Madiba, Allah coolly Muslim and Muslim Allah and that's in English as well. And then

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there's certain things that are making a good translation in English. But I don't know that I love it. But it is it isn't English, for sure. Yeah. It's been years ago, years since I've seen it. But these are basic books to learn the fundamentals of Islam, and the obligation of knowledge, like I said, purity of the philosophy, and know what I mean, and more or less golden, as golden. And those values that you learned in the beginning of that book, they stick with you for the rest of your life. And in my covenant coding, while I'm on how much suffering do we face on a daily basis, and ignoring that principle?

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Speak after, you know, do after you know, how many of us talk about ignorance, we think we feel we follow someone and then we have problems we do harm to ourselves and to others, right? Of course, obviously the basics of the Arabic language inshallah Tada, but before that heslin Muslim fortress of the Muslim is very important learning, Prophet sallallahu Sallam have kept the Quran. And that goes back to what you said about the spirituality of seeking knowledge. Psycho spiritual, very important, connect yourself to the law all the time. And if the law is not protecting you as to your knowledge, you can be successful. And most importantly, as you have to develop your memory.

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You have to learn and discover the magic of revision, you have to discover the magic of revision. And many of the pious predecessors, they will say, well, that could have totally been higher to whom the lifeblood of knowledge is revision. So how do you know that they could before you go to sleep? so well? How do you know before you drink after you drink?

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Because you keep doing it. So you have to train yourself that there is no mountain that's high enough to to to try to climb, if you just keep practicing it? Well, that could lead to the in higher to. Okay, revising knowledge is the lifeblood, that's the vertebrae of In the end, you learn this rule as

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well. So to buckler you're trying to memorize it was on Australia yet. This one is an entire page is intimidating. But when you keep reviewing it and recite it in a prayer and teaching to others, you learn it like that. So you get that total idea and that mindset from the outcome, let alone the spiritual protection and the connection to the last final Tada. All right, last but not least, is to learn the basics of the Arabic language, not the grammar, but the vocabulary and take small bits and pieces of grammar to form basic sentences for conversational purposes. And many people, they start off with a jumia. They start off with this natural book, and they go from alphabets and civil wait.

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And that's a huge one. And that is awesome news of being burnt out and finding the Arabic language to be too confusing and too difficult. You got to learn how to talk. You got to listen. You gotta learn how to conversate Okay, I'm

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tired. I don't want to know more stories with regards to that. I think that's clear and short on time. There's a book that I have for beginners that I saw, which is quite nice. I'm not sure if you've come across it's called a tabula tesi. Yes, Yes, Yes, for sure.

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That one as a gift for us for the gamma several, several the simplest and easiest and even if it's a bigger book, just take the smaller portions of it. Mm hmm. Okay. Now, obviously you studied at university. So that's your kind of area. Correct. Hamdulillah, I was fortunate, fortunate enough to go to the Prophet city for over a decade or about a decade roughly.

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And learn all of these sciences, most of them have basic level from them and have the lab. And that was my major. Yes. And the college sciences of my decent, I'm gonna do that. So one of the main talking points in terms of Islam, one of the things that we would consider a USP, that is very unique to Islam, in comparison to other religions, even according to other histories, ancient histories, is the way that our tradition has actually been preserved. So, in a nutshell, if you like or summarize version Wait, tell us. How has this been preserved? And what is the importance of that?

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clip clip? Well, like you mentioned, not just for religion and faith, but also for history.

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There's no doubt about that. There are some experts and specialists. They've done a lot of research with regards to the history of narration, and the history of the chain of narration. Obviously, it is composed or is composed of a senate and I met him, there is the chain of reporters, and the actual report. So some specialists they have tried to go into the other religions, other faiths, and not just Islam, Christianity and Judaism, also Hinduism,

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the mainstream religions, some call the Abrahamic faiths, things like this, okay? And they've done research. And they've looked to the extent of the usage of the chain of narration and those other religions and other books. And there are there are usages of report and there's isn't that, but there's never been a time a place people a religion, in which the chain of narration played such a pivotal role, like the vertebrae

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in the body of that religion like Islam. There's never been a religion or a way or even a historical event. Because the history of the Arabs, the language of the Arabs, the culture of the Arabs, is extremely an immensely indebted to Islam,

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Islam and prove their history, the preservation of it, the report of it, their language, their letters, their speech, everything was polished by Islam. There's never been a time of placing a religion in which preservation and precaution and precision and such a mighty punishment has been placed on lying and fabricating and being inaccurate than Islam is no button. There's no doubt about that. One of the non Muslim orientalist who studied Islam, who attacked Islam vehemently, who was a student of one of the worst opponents of Islam was Joseph shot German orientalist. And he made the famous statement fairly attacking the Muslim order, the EDMI hiding him. He said, If the Muslims can

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take pride in anything, it will be the science of it.

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Not poetry, the love of horses and this and that he said genealogy they can take pride in anything, it will be in one idea, and he was an open staunch opponent to Islam to the hundreds, but he acknowledged that and we all know the Arabs have a famous statement and then fabella Masha he that he and I doubt, okay, true props. True regard comes from one's opponent.

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It's true recognition. Your opponent doesn't like you, he doesn't love you, but he respects you. And he takes off his hat. He balls through and says, I acknowledge you and your prowess. We were not friends were at odds with each other. But I definitely respect and acknowledge you as a person as as as as a brave fearless man. All right. So therefore, this is something which is very special. It's very unique. And this is found in the Quran and Kinane, which allows which it tells us in that there's an decra Wouldn't that a hula had your donor allowances and he says, that indeed we have sent down the Vicodin And indeed We shall preserve it. And the vicar initially means the Quran.

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It means the Quran Allah says we have sent down the Quran and we will preserve the Quran. Now, there's one or two things that we can say now, number one is does this include the Sunnah as well? As if the verse says indeed we have sent down the Quran and Sunnah and we present them both. Or does it just mean that the Quran has been sent down and the Quran will be preserved? But the interpretation of the Quran the understanding of

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the big stories of the brain, how can we even have any sense of the brain without the deeds, and that which is a necessity of the brand to be understood, practiced, implemented, reflected upon, also must be what is preserved as well. It makes no sense for a person to have very expensive a costly spring water, and he carries it in his hands. He says want to take it from the spring, I'm going to walk up on my trail, or my bike, I want to hold it in one hand, I want to go my house and I'm going to take the spring water in my hands, and then my jaws on like this, Only a fool would do that. The more expensive the water, the more pure and pristine the water, the vessel, the glass, the

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plastic, the box, whatever you preserve it in has to be just as what is just as good, rather even more costly. And that's because the thing on the inside has to be preserved and kept safe. And if you don't have the outside is preserved and kept safe. It's a waste of time. So allows you to no doubt about that. He has sinned down over n. And he has inspired the Prophet sallallahu Sallam and given him revelation as well. And interpretation of their code and understanding application. And like I said, very important word is the sense of the quarter in the Quranic stories, so many, Allah says, Cardinal articlegoogle was eager for some F, and D, we see that your face is turning about

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looking into the skies looking into the heavens, but on the one end of the covenant center that will give you a direction of prayer that you'll be pleased with. What is the Lord talking about? causal I'm talking to?

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Who's turning their face in the sky? Anyone? Everyone who's looking into the heavens? What is the direction of prayer? What was the direction of prayer? Man? Well, at home, I'm coming at him on it again, while they would change them from the equivalent which they were facing, who was praying, when these questions can't be answered? A lot. So God tells us about the Prophet with a view that when the Prophet made a secret to what some of his wives who's the Prophet? Yeah, cool. Sure. A Idris le s, they'll given? Well, what will and the view was, who's the Prophet? And who are his wives?

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As a man allowed to have more than one wife in Islam? Allah says some of his wives with a divorced wife, what was the secret? How can you make sense of sort of, in chapter 33, makes sense out of this, verse after verse, story after story that you cannot understand the beginning to enter the middle without a deep thoughts on that. So many people when they talk about the preservation, and so now, we have to look at the preservation of the end. And the end is the starting point. And it's also the last frontier, or the reality that the center of the position was preserved. And those who reject the Hadees since they did not exist, they're made up in their lives, they are non Muslims,

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and they have rejected the Quran. They have rejected the Quran. And ally clearly tells us with Jay Don't be she hasn't given us the Quran and fight them with it strongly. Okay, vigorously. So we don't have to get into this historical report a hot party that should deal with you awkward and rejected the projector, please make sense of the crane makes sense?

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If you can make sense, but I'll accept the argument that I need to allies are made up 250 years after the Prophet no problem. But make sense out of chapter 33. Makes sense out of this sort of make sense out of this verse? When did the process and what is the law says into the home to the gates? Who's he talking to? What is he talking about? Whose aid and list goes on and problematic issues that they have no answer for, except through that he was the son of the assassin brief. Second, he is the Prophet. So I said, I'm setting up just like before, and we don't believe that is based off of just human effort. But there are things which are miraculous. And they're things which are above

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and beyond the ability of the human to do. And then they are miraculous, miraculous. And if we lose sight of that, and if everything is just mundane, and everything is just academic, and everything is tangible, there is no doubt we will lose our faith, and we lose our faith, the game is over,

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since nothing else to do afterwards, so we can't lose scope of that. But of course, there are tangible reasons why this wouldn't be preserved in the time of the Prophet sallallahu wasallam. But before we go that far,

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I don't want to take too much time, it's very important. We have to understand the power of prejudice, and the power of racism and the power of a person feeling inferior, and a person feelings superior to another race. We have to understand that race, color, class, a nation. These things are involved in every single aspect of life, every sphere of life, including studies and academia

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and there's not a time in which

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Race and color and religion is separated from these other aspects of life. Listen to these words carefully. And from that is academic studies of a slump

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for a person to come from another country, and to travel 1000s and 1000s of miles, another part of the world, another climate, and to take 800 900 1000 years of scholastics of studies of in depth, futuristic state of the art detailed studies, and to ignore them, neglect them, fine follow them, flaunt them, that is based off of racial superiority or inferiority. And that is the concept of Orientalism that the Muslims for over 1000 years, they had a normal Qur'an, alumina hajis sort of fit all of these different sciences, and I came from Hungary. What was my country 1000 years ago?

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800 years ago, what science and knowledge of astronomy did we have of hygiene of this and that the embryo so many things, they were lost, stuck in darkness. And the Muslims had sprawling cities of libraries based on Hickman, do you know how many volumes of books were burnt? When the seeds of book that took place? historian say that the the, they say that the sea became black from ink, millions and millions of books were lost. And other scholars debate that. And they said that the Mongol invaders did not burn data. That's the discussion. The point is, is that there's only one library and one city of book that the Muslims wrote 1000s of lines of books, and I just want to slamming

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sciences as well, for someone to come along. And to say that these sciences are all flawed. They're all lies are based off of political gains. sectarianism, she asked her Now, the last thing that he's doing that because of something, and it's not just pure scholastic or academic research, but it's because your way is flawed. And the reason why it's flawed, is because you're Arabs, you're Berbers, you're Kurds, I'm European, I'm Hungarian, I'm German, our way is automatically superior to your way. And it's very sad. And unfortunately, many Muslims have fallen victim to this, and they don't even realize it.

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They don't even realize him. And from the manifestations of this is the feeling that if something isn't written down, if something isn't documented the way we want it to be written down and documented, this automatically aligns automatically false. And this is the main premise of those who say that her needs were not preserved, because they weren't written down in a time of the Prophet, rather 200 even though even though a lot, a big part of Western tradition, all the way back

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when we talk about, you know, the Iliad, Homer's Iliad, and so on, based on

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for sure. Likewise, in the Torah is, the Jews claim, although they don't have a chain of narration, which is I'm sure you're going to talk about what all that entails, but they claim it's all so the bedrock of Western society, which was Judeo Christian values, was based on documents or books that claimed to have been orally transmitted things like

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Homer and the Old Testament itself. right to say that this is this is very much the new orientalist critique now is that, well, these are Chinese whispers. You're talking about the Senate. These are actually Chinese whispers. It's not a meticulous preservation mechanism. And a lot of it wasn't compiled until the third century. These are the kinds of things that maybe orientalist think shock is actually one of them who sent this would say they would say things like, so what makes your method actually any better than

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these other methods or ways? specialize it? Why is it Why is it so unique? For sure, for sure. So that's a very excellent point, and asked me to call Okay, of course, people attack someone on something that they're guilty themselves, okay. And, of course, somebody will say, well, we aren't orientalist Orientalism is faded out, the colonial age is gone. But the Arab, they say in an equally coalmine, or equally Commonwealth

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as someone is going to inherit, and these people in these modern academic

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universities they have inherited, and they don't even realize it. So at the end of the day to keep things brief, because that's a very long discussion. But I did want to shed light on that is the foundation of that. And just because something written doesn't mean that it's authentic, and just because something has already passed down, it doesn't mean that it's alive, let alone the fact that there were countless ideas written in the time of the Prophet. I mean, I think a great example of that as well. Just thinking off the top of my head, probably one of the best examples of that is language, like short, which in the beginning, earliest

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Civilization it was the way that language was transmitted was, was was transmitted orally. Moreover, mathematics itself is a language. I mean, people when they learned maths, they didn't necessarily depend on

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the books and teaching each other from how they were taught. Also things that basically will even body language, the way we are taught and the way we speak, and all these things, a lot of it is met most of the things you could argue, is transmitted through generational mass transmissions, and so forth.

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Someone could argue what language evolves from that perspective. And that is the requirement here. When you have power law, like you know, you're going to inshallah talk about this principles in place, which stop, you know, certain things from being changed, right? So in terms of now, the Hadith are the principles that are in place that will kind of ward off this Chinese whispers allegation? How do we say if someone says what someone says this three or four centuries later, is communicated as this? How do we know that it's not being changed? Or ongoing? Clear? For sure? Well, I think first and foremost is that we have to know who we're speaking with. Everyone is the only we

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have to we have to make a distinction on who we're talking to. We talk to a Muslim saying this, are we talking to a non Muslim? Are we talking to a man a person of faith and religion, whether the Buddhist Hindu Christian, or someone who's an atheist or agnostic, someone who just based off of the net did the material mundane things? And if we don't know who we're speaking with, then of course, we're not going to go too far. So what are we talking to? If a person accepts the Quran, and they are Muslim, they have doubt. They are sincerely concerned about the Hadees in the sun, et cetera, it is very simple answer. And first and foremost, we said some Do you know everything about the Quran?

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Do you know everything about the Quran? Do you know everything? What sort of came down first? What sort of it came down last? Do you know the way of the Quran being transmitted? Of course, the average Muslim the average student Cosmos? Of course I don't. So what makes you

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so demanding? And what makes you so imposing that you have to know every meticulous detail about the Hadeeth tradition? is a serious question now. And it's not running from the answer. But it's a serious question. Now, if you can answer that, then obviously, your questions about aren't? Where are you going?

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We can sit down and talk about the court and you don't know everything about the brand and much of the Quran and your faith in it is based off of blind faith.

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So many people they are very ignorant of the sciences of the Quran, which are sciences, but they want to be masters of cyber Hardys Muslim, they want to be masters of the ID from water, and this Muslim and that, that makes no sense. That makes no sense. And one of the most important principles of teaching someone and uplifting and raising from them doubts is to show them their ignorance. You have to be shown the ignorance and that it's not about embarrassing someone or playing someone. But it's to show you that you need to humble yourself. And most people will talk about our needs mean false. They're blindly following someone and they're very haughty and arrogant. And attending this

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is not true for over 300 years who said that? Where are you getting this from? For over 20 years at least one written down? That's not true. That's a lie. So I think we have to show the people their ignorance and take it back to their faith of the Quran. How does the Lord tell us to go back to something which is totally false. There's not one single verse in the Quran and which Allah tells us to obey Him, and only him.

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Now one verse in the Quran, which will last as well to Allah, that's it. Now once every single time a Lord tells us to obey Him, immediately afterwards, it is in the messenger, and His Messenger. Rather, there are some verses in the Quran, which Alon subhana wa tada commands us to obey only the Prophet, only the messenger and not a law that's deep and profound. How could a law tell us to obey someone whose words are lost and made up? And everything is a fallacy everything is you know, just a tradition. So make sense out of the brain. Tell me about the Quran, all the signs of grant and then be led out hopefully then I'll tell you about the Hudson, the Sunnah. And until you can do that

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you're being hypocritical and you're not sincere. As far as if it's a non Muslim, then it goes back to what I previously said. What are your standards of academia? Or a scholastic criticism? Are you supposing something? And as most of the criticism levied against these people? Yeah, yes, we don't make any further yet. We don't think it's like this. In most cases, it's most likely it's most likely it's most likely. Secondly, is that let's actually look at the criticism. So let's make an example of this now. So people they say that the Hadees were used for political gain.

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We had Molly on the line who, and we had it below one. So therefore the easiest way of legitimizing someone's authority, someone's power of state is to the profit and the profits nephew on the profits cousin, I'm the profit relative. I'm from the province, uncle, bass, etc, etc, etc. So therefore they say that the hundreds were made up because of the sectarian wars between venerable Mayer and vanilla state. So therefore, that's their premise. Is that due to the fact that there's doubt there's reasonable doubt, there was a need for the Shiites to legitimize themselves, there was need for the Sudanese to legitimize themselves and to consolidate power, right? No problem. So you're

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telling me that if someone abuses the science, and uses the science for their cause of their agenda, their propaganda, then the science automatically becomes false and made up and fabricated? Are you telling me that? If that's your premise, then there goes science, mathematics, navigation, religion, Christianity, Judaism, because all of these different sciences and these different books, they were used to monopolize people, people's lives, it was wealth, people's territory. So therefore science is false, because someone a scientist came and he proved wise, okay to kill this minority, and then make a genocide against these people in the Holocaust. And these people, would you accept that

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premise? Of course they would.

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Rather they have faith in those sciences, even though people for centuries have misused them and abused them. But idiots are automatically made up fabricated, because someone supposedly abused them the she I used them against a Sunday, as soon as I use them, guess the sheer Malia's people use it against these people are these people. So that's false. That's first and foremost. Secondly is the property they can start to slam he gave us the guiding principles upon which Western academia is based on and that is precision. That is precaution. That is integrity, equity, okay. And that is research. And that is meticulous detail. And so many of the messenger velocity lessons and he

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himself, he laid down his values, and which less than academia was nothing to be mentioned at the time, there was no such thing as Oxford or Cambridge, when they travel from country to country, and they met 30 more minutes, and 40 100. So one narration and verify and the list goes on of the meticulous criticism that was laid down, what do you agree with it or not? No problem, over 1000 years, no problem. But for you to just come and say, that is haphazard collage, and statements and actions put together as a problem. All right. And that comes from, in my personal opinion, in my studies, that comes from the racial superiority complex, and the racial inferiority complex is that

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our way is superior in all aspects. And your ways are inferior in all aspects. And that itself is a lie we don't have in history, many of the sciences of the West was stolen and borrowed from the east. And it's not just about Jew, Muslim, Christian, we talked about masons.

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Everything is based off of the East, in ancient Egypt and all those countries. So that was the source of all of the gods and all the knowledge on their science. So the point, the point that I'm trying to get to is, is that Who are we talking to? Someone of science, let's talk about science, someone who's supposed to be an academic, let's discuss academia now. But not what I think and I feel. And now accusations of actual documentation, actual proof. And now

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I'm trying

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to kind of summarize what you're saying, what you're saying is, that look, just because something can no has the propensity to be used, in a way which is fitting to their own agenda, it doesn't mean that the principles or the the actual aim, or the fan or the science itself becomes corrupt. For example, you gave the example of sciences. Let's, let's take the example historical example. genix. So the fact that justify racial programs against certain groups of people, Jewish people, etc, doesn't mean now that science has become a corrupt enterprise, just because it's been used in that capacity. It doesn't mean it has become a corrupt enterprise.

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Principally, right, so you're saying the same thing now that with Hadith, that it can be used like anything else, it can potentially be used in a in a wrong way, in a in a corrupting way. However, it doesn't mean that the principles and the guiding principles themselves are corrupt. It doesn't follow

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1,000% and rather rather than hypocrisy of the whole argument, and I'm trying to make I'm trying to place place focus on goal desire, okay. ignaz goals are he's the founding father of suppose it, academic criticism of Islam and traditional Islam. And obviously, someone's gonna say, well, we're not orientalist Orientalism. They're fade out, they're big, they're extinct, but they aren't extinct. And most academic institutions, they glorify this man

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glorifying, and his, his suggestions, his reservations, and his the results of his research to this day most of them have been accepted. So we are firm believers in striking the shepherd, and the sheep will scatter.

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We're not going to run after 50 sheep, take off the shepherd, the sheep will disperse. So let's attack the heart of the whole entire

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line from the 50. Was it?

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But there's no doubt about that. There's 50 rules to power or something. What do you suppose if that's what?

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You've been trying to become a megalomaniac yourself? Yeah.

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Robert Greene. So the point is, yes, yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. You mentioned eugenics. People don't even realize that the catastrophes that took place in Eastern Europe, were based off of eugenics. And there was a scientific justification for the crimes that were committed and supposedly committed, so on and so forth. It was a scientific justification. And you look at this man has been a lunatic or madman, but to him, he said, I'm following the way of nature.

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So just because someone abuses something or uses something for his game, how can that make the whole entire science may have been false? Obviously, that that's not sensible. That's not far from being academic. Let's bring forward maybe for Tim to make the viewers kind of touch what it is we're talking about. In more explicit terms. Can you give us an example of like a Senate, you talked about the chain of narration, right? How just just to give people kind of a taste of what we're talking about, talking about this kind of narration?

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It's not it is between you and information. I'll give you a specific channel narration. We have you and actual report. So if I'm watching the news, we say that someone died in a very bad train derailment train was derailed. Okay. I was hundreds of miles away from the train derailment. I was in my home. I didn't see it. I didn't hear it directly. I'm far from it. But I'm getting the news. So between me, I'm on my living room sofa, and the derailed train and the hundreds of people that died, there has to be a chain. And that chain is let's say the train conductor survived the crash or an eyewitness. And then I witnessed or the train conductor he signaled for the emergency. And then

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the ambulance came.

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And then from the evidence, the police came and the firefighters came, and then the news outlets came, and then it's broadcasted to my living room. So between me and the train being derailed, and people losing their lives now I will accident. There are people between middleman mediums. So that is the chain, the Senate and the train being derailed. 500 people lost their lives as horrible accident. That's the meccan. That's actual wording. That's the text. That's the actual story. So therefore, between me and that, obviously the news can come from thin air. It can't come from a dream. It can't come from a hallucination. It must come from something tangible, tangible, right? So

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in Islam, between us, and the prophecy symptoms over 1400 years. We didn't meet him sell a lot. He was on them, we would love to meet him. But we did not meet him physically. I mean, we hope that we meet him in thereafter. Some alone might even sell them but we didn't meet him physically. So therefore between us and him, there are people there are men or women who are those men and women that is called the US Senate. It's that the chain of reporters. And obviously,

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we're not going to have 100 people 200 people between us in the profit it's just too long. But between us and the Hadeeth collectors, those who compiled the narrations put them in a book and a cannon

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between the author of the Canon and the Prophet himself is the chain. So many people would be in that chain would you say maybe three four. The least is going to be three to five okay three to five example of like of a salad that goes party Rahim Allah. Yeah, his answer he, he has several Heidi's are only three people between him and the Prophet. So an example. many examples, remember why do you know him a lot. He has a ship. So he says hi, definitely.

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I'll even have to ask his teacher. Because he was a student of him. I need to know that he got it from sofian No, yeah, no, who was his teacher? So if you don't even know, he got it from a man whose name is it would have been Dino and mechi. I must have been Dino. He took it from jabesh the son of Abdullah who met the prophecy some more even on best as an example. A memorable party narration loving yourself usif from in mathematics. Remember Why did he never smile The man Okay, you know, what were some trade from zippity etc. So we're dealing with history.

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hardy died in the middle of the third century. And the Prophet audience starts to slam obviously it's almost 200 years old 20 years from him and his what death so therefore remember what is gonna happen his teacher okay? And then his teachers teacher and then his teachers teacher the companion in the Prophet so those names that you read the first check out the love of yourself I even know I've done that I brilliant man, whatever the shift remember what it is, that is the hardest teacher and it's going to be either two more or three more men or women will cine memorable party and between the Prophet solo It was so clear in this or not. Yeah, but remember, it says hi, definitely

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a man called burnisher Avon and is of the color of Bernie obeyed. molar open and Abilene sort of summit sort of sort of La salon he was selling me aboard Len inactive ladies. Yeah, those four men, I believe man should a zuri obeyed. And every now and then other times it was only four men, or three men or two men and one woman. That's the Senate and that's actually chain those actual names from Sahil McCarty. So, something we got to clear up though shake is many people, Muslims and non Muslims alike. They think and they feel that the Hadees have only been preserved. And the only way of

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grading and critiquing it is the internet. And this is extremely erroneous, rather than criticism of the text takes precedence over the criticism of the metal.

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Knock the metal Nakajima Necro Senate.

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So the text people, they talk about the snare, the snare, the snare, which is important, that's the backbone, like we said, but it's not the only way where learning is never differentiated between the Senate. And

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there's one thing why that's the only way can you can you touch upon that sort of something which is clearly contradictory. Right to the Quranic discourse, is that something that would be rejected in the early days in the last no doubt. But that's never ever going to happen. There's never been authentic report there, which clearly clashes against the end, rather, rather, this was back to my previous principle is that there are many as countless is that seem to be contradictory. And the scholars of Islam, they have a systematic, scientific way of removing the supposed contradiction and clash. So the scale is not specific to Hades. There are several is which are muscular several. I'll

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give you an example. Like, you know, the inside Muslim does the heavy to put up with Adam was created from Friday and on Friday, why?

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And why was really one time and some criticism of delicate knee and body even in saying that this seems to contradict the narrative of

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life of it that we can do. So is this textual? Yes, it is. It is a correct role, but it has to be used properly. Yeah. And we wouldn't use it now, we would depend upon the usage of the early scholars who are done that that process, of course, of course, but the science of interpretation is one of the most important sciences.

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And that is also applied to the Quranic verses themselves. With regards to the creation of the heavens and Aries, so what did Eliza just make first? The heavens, the earth, where the trees where the mountains placed there? Is this discrepancy for us today? For any self

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funded one?

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Yeah, I've seen some discussion among them officio, and like, for example, if not best, seems to say that the heaven was created first, but then hotair that says, No the earth as best as the earth and then tell us is the heaven because of love divided Delica. And

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there is a proper way of understanding that. And there's a proper bringing harmony. And the same applies to the authentic IDs, however, yes. Will you will you what you're asking about is that which is called my wares in a knocked? Yeah. Oh, I'd like to know, is it proper for me to criticize the authenticity of a hadith? Because it's supposedly clashes with the Quranic narrative? Yes, that is one of the styles and also history and also other authentic ideas and also even common sense, but that's not for every person and every person is fancy. And every hasty person who just wants to find fault and say that is fabricated, and they reject it. If you take that if you take that approach,

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like I said, that will lead you to rejecting the what the Quran itself

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I was gonna say a lot of people don't realize the, this beautiful element or this very sophisticated science which is referred to as Allah

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To get the idea of the science of men, the Bible says biographies of men, which is, which is an incredible complement to this whole system that you're talking about. So much as not only now you have this system, but you have people who are literally in my five chapter, if you want to go FBI checked, everyone will have their biographies. And so as long as those individuals meet the criteria required in order to be transmitted.

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That's something which is not as rigorous in western historical discourse. Can you touch upon the placement of alcohol gel? jaho, tideal. These kinds of concepts have kind of five received biographies of men? How do not only men or women as well, how do we use this in order to kind of do compare or reflect?

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Well, I mean, less, like you said, let's talk about the countries in which we live, Western societies. We talk about criminal law, you mentioned Am I five, FBI, CIA, all of these things. How many people in America named john

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Tracy, Michael, how many last names are there Smith, William, kept Mohammed Abdullah, Thomas. And they have a sophisticated system of differentiating between this one on that one, fingerprints, eye recognition, date of birth, middle name, and then this goes on.

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The Muslims were doing this in the third century, the second century, the fourth century, when the West was considered to be Spain, and the Iberian Peninsula and leisure. That was it. That was the West West was Cordoba, there was no such thing as the new land newfound land. There was no Iceland and Greenland, there was no America, according to those people, okay. So emilija no doubt about that is one of the greatest contributions to human society.

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And one of the biggest feats in the history of the humankind. And that is the science to precisely systematically look after, categorize separate combined names of 1000s upon 1000s of men and women, different tribes, different races, different lineage, different genealogy, and classifying them. So therefore, if we try to discredit in literature, or look at it as something which is a footnote, but something which is extremely faulty and flawed in our Western societies, also flawed and useless. Okay, why am I being harassed in the airport right now? Oh, we thought you were someone else. We thought you were a different person. I was that my passport number is not the same as him. My name

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is not spelled mo is immune.

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They're not being honest and not telling the truth. And when they want to pinpoint someone and follow someone, they know what exactly how to do it, and allows them that that is they have been inspired from the Muslims efforts. So that's first and foremost. Secondly, is we study in one Hadith Muslim Hadith. There's so many rules that pertain to names nicknames by name, surnames, tribes,

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of a person was menu minute there used to be slave. There's so many different detail points of making sure that this person is not that person. I would almost

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tell it one tennis elbow too shabby. And then Alma Fareed al majah. Here, okay. Men Manisha how to be community don't miss me. Man, Luciana very happy to hear that in itself is a whole Yani chunk, a chunk slice of mid Peninsula, we'll start off masala is the precision of the names and the people and making sure that we don't jumble and mix people that this is a john smith, and that's also a john smith. And they may have the same middle name. It may come from the same

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city or town in England, but they're two different people. The two different individuals, one is a liar, one's trustworthy, one met this person when didn't meet this person. So that in itself is an endless sea of it. And those who actually want to study it, and want to find it. Realize, no doubt the books are available. And I will tell you this that in a heartbeat is the more you study it, the more you're humbled by it.

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You're humbled by it. And I think that one of the reasons are in my answer with this. I think me personally from my own studies and London's best, one of the reasons why the western critics made such a heavy claims against the Muslims in the sciences of the Muslims. Of course, there's race. They have other agendas and aims. But one of the reasons is because it was just so marvelous. As if it was unbelievable. Half of one man memorize as much. How can one man travel this long? How can one person do this? How could one man have the ability to it's impossible it has to be a lot. It has to be fabric

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And that goes back to society and culture, our society and our culture, everything's written down. Everything is recorded. Everything is documented. You'll find someone and other societies in which nothing is written down, nothing is documented, and call them savages. We call them, they are behind. They're prehistoric. But you asked them about this trade, and about this craft, and about this location, you asked them about this direction, and you will be shocked how short their memory is. Okay, and this is something which is very important in

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American history. I'll give you a brief example of this is a true story of a man on Have you studied his life nameko cheese.

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Oh, co cheese is a very, very, very important leader of the church, our Apache Indians are natives. Obviously, people use the term Indian politically incorrect. And the Apaches here, they were considered to be the last, the last of all of the the longest war in the United States history, the Indian Wars, to hold out from the occupation. And they refused to be placed on reservations, they refused, they just they just, they refused. So this man named his name was called cheese, goat cheese here. He was a great leader of his people. And it was an American soldier or an American soldier. He was tired of the lies. He's tired of the bloodshed and tired of the oppression and the

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wrong that was being done on both sides. And he said, I want to talk to this man called chiefs directly, want to talk to them directly. They say you're crazy kill you, because skin you to do this, this is I want to talk to him, I want to explain to them how they can be a peace between the settlers and between the natives. So obviously, he's a savage, he's an Indian walks barefoot, he has bows and arrows, we have the US cavalry will be done with him in three months, will eradicate the land from him and he'll be on a reservation. So he said oil, he maybe maybe he doesn't want to choose, maybe he can't read and write. Maybe he doesn't know how to use this instrument, so on and

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so forth. He says, but him and his scouts, they know every single pathway in the entire state of Arizona, there's not a hill, there's not a well, there's not nothing that they don't know by heart. And you use maps, and campuses, you have to have scouts and you get lost, and so on and so forth. So the point that I'm trying to get to is, is that it's about culture, someone who writes something for someone who memorizes something you understand, not just from the point, okay?

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Someone who understand something, the natural way, is no less inferior than someone who uses a computer or an instrument.

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Unless we're basing it off of I'm superior to you, and you're inferior to me. And that's invalid yet. So in order Jad was something that many people they didn't consider it to be true, they consider it to be a lie, it had to be made up is no way one man can memorize this much. And that's because they came from societies which everything was pen in pad, pen and paper, what do you mean, you found your way from one island to the next without a compass? What do you mean, you didn't use this type of navigation? What do you mean, you found your way from one Hill to another Valley, that's impossible, you're lying. It's impossible for you. And that's because you were trying to use

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a compass, you're trying to use a map, you're trained to use this instrument, and this man who has no shoes, who's walking barefoot, he has all of that, what? Naturally. So that's how we have to understand in retail, is that as a tremendous, amazing feat. And it isn't some mystical science, either as many people think so missile size is tangible. It's practical, it's tangible, and it's practical. And no more is not admissible. Science is a tangible and practical science. But just because something is beyond your grasp, and beyond your limit, and beyond your culture, it does not mean that it is false and fabricated and spurious. That's the point. That's a good point. I think

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that this is a very pertinent point, especially considering the fact that we live in a society that's become obviously hypertech is this hyper technological society and stuff like that. And so it's

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now in our cultural paradigm, that this is, um, this could be done, like you just mentioned us a beautiful example, that especially in the past, that people will be memorizing names, and that they know their tribal lineage, and they'll know what their fourth cousin is, or their fourth paternal great Auntie was named, and all of these things, that standard knowledge for human being, say Arabia that time. Now it's completely

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abundant knowledge is not it's not up in the air. And so people find it difficult to

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that things would have been memorized in this way that exact words and phrases being exactly understood, and so on and so forth. That that is what Clifford is actually referred to. So, so

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important. So So just think

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description is that in order for you.

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And it's this problem of

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kind of imposing cultural paradigms on other ancient and medieval paradigms

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that causes the, like the gap of information. I think you're absolutely right. But what I wanted to ask you now, I think, which is an interesting segue, because we will talk about jobs.

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And the idea of, because the ideal job title and income from wrong is the idea of

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making criticisms like historical criticisms against the character of individuals, such that history would not be accepted from them. And it was done for her on the other hand paddle is actually saying that the the just nature of this individual and the fit nature of them to be able to transmit history, this science is now unfortunately, being used by youngsters and by people who are trying to learn the religion by people like, you know, on the extreme side of

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people who claim to be selfies and so on and so on to their companions, and to attack their colleagues and to attack and all of that and to, to, in the guise of trying to protect the religion and preserve it in the same way as it was in the early days. Where is the

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the fallacy in this? Where have they gone? Of course,

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to the origin?

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clear, clear, very important question. I'm not about living in the United States. I from the east coast, I can relate to this person with no doubt. I'll say, first and foremost, is we have to understand that. I don't know who exactly. But I do believe that there is someone or there are people who have an intentional design to spread confusion among the Muslims.

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Yeah, and I don't believe that is a conspiracy theory, in my heart is a fact and alumnos better is that there is a person or persons for systematically, and have systematically created things made things made ways, the National folder

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to make things worse than what they already are with the Muslims. Just add confusion mislead people take people's rights. Well, I didn't say that. But I said what national folder spread confusion. And I thought that this is one of the strongest tools. So the fact or the idea that I have someone who never studied,

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I have someone who barely has studied Arabic language. I have someone who has barely learned the basics of his recitation. I have someone who's of amateur ristic strategy, we say amateur mystic.

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He is now the master of what I do. And then

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he now determines who's Justin who's unjust, who's equitable, who's disparaged. He now determines who to listen to, who to watch who to take from. He now determines who's going to paradise who's not whom Allah has mercy upon whom or does not have mercy upon. He now determines who's qualified to speak and teach on Islam. As a joke. Obviously, it's a laughingstock. If you are that concerned about Islam and the Sunnah, and Hadith and RP, then the wave the sun, if you'd have left the UK and you've studied, that's first and foremost, you you would have left America and you've studied and you would have studied for two or three years and we stayed there for a very long time. You've

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accomplished things you have been evaluated, if you have had that much paid off upon sooner, and Dean and Al Qaeda, let alone become a master of other men. You haven't mastered yourself yet. So that's first and foremost, we don't have to go any further by saying that it's a laughingstock that's a joke, okay? It's a muscle here, as they say pedalos, yani puppets is a joke. Shadow. shadow puppet is a joke. You can't be serious. You cannot be serious. Okay, so that's first and foremost. Mm. Yeah, he had been my aim. I met all my buddies.

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They considered someone who didn't travel, who didn't leave their country who didn't go out and face the arduous challenges the pain the rigorous, rigorous challenges of regular, they wouldn't even consider him to be of anything worth mentioning. in mind, he says Autobots often lead to an instrument rush then he says for people you can expect no good from

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theory is no good. It's gonna come from these four people. And from those four people they mentioned, what are you done? yet? Will Heidi be better than he will be He is the man who writes down ideas in his own country, and he doesn't travel to other countries and they remain in bed. That was the center of civilization. The Sumerians, the Assyrians before Islam, let alone Islam. That was the

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cradle of civilization Mesopotamia, let alone Islam. Okay, that was all in the dead. And they said, if you don't leave that, and you didn't go to Kufa and Basilica and lost it, if you don't go to the hijet, so you don't go to the messenger, so on and so forth, then you will not be successful if you don't go out and seek Hadees, from other than your town in your city. So what would they say about someone who never even studied in their city, who doesn't live and didn't live above that? So before we go further, and defending, and when we say that it is a joke, it's a joke. It's a laughingstock, you're not a student of knowledge, let alone an imagined, lead on an island lead on someone who's

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qualified to speak about the honor of other people, and the integrity of other people. So I will say that it stops there. If you have not studied, you have not traveled, you haven't went anywhere for years out of your life systematically.

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Don't talk about anyone IDs, don't talk about a Muslims honor. Because this Muslim was starving and suffering. And you were in a UK eating fish and chips.

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That's interesting. Why is that? I mean, the faulty reasoning, I mean, to be explicit here is that they, for example, I'm giving an example here, they'll use a chef like Chef librem at Halle, they'll say he praised us. Okay, so this is a praise system. So now they've given up on them. So where the true self is for the sake of argument, and what we're going to do is we're going to determine for you guys as the public, when you said is the one on the Huck who and who's bought on the bottom, who is the one on the truth, who's the one on the full set

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of being given money. Like as pubs we have so fabrications UK of trade in America. You have figureheads like Africa, DJ. While and you have you know, Moosa Richardson and these individuals.

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They are not taking the mantle not just to go to the queen, but to actually pronounce cap dl and other individuals say, You're an innovator. Your Adela is lost.

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And this has, and this is the problem with far reaching effects, that it can stop marriages from taking place. It can actually cause divorces, it can it can be a segue to divorce, it can cause family, the discord community will crash. All of this fold it refer to the chaos that is referred to as obviously stopping people from listening and benefiting from individuals who, who who are trying to call to Islam, who are not part of their own cult or their own group, whatever it is. And so this is all built upon a praise system, okay, that we've gotten this praise from this shift. In fact, those same individuals, many of which have named their names, haven't studied Arabic language, they

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can't communicate in the Arabic language. They can't even speak Arabic. They can't read the Quran. Khadija cannot read the Quran, he cannot read the, you know, the actual and this

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wild caught speaking in a conversational Arabic way. And now they're taking upon themselves throughout PBS was a

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take away the honor of Muslims. So does it.

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delusions of grandeur?

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Well, I guess it's lamb subtlety of the way the salaf is the praise of chef. That's it? Yeah. That's what it is. quality content in knowledge. No, chef for them presents us. That's it? Well, they wouldn't take they wouldn't accept the standard for. I mean, if you went to, if you went to a right, and you said, Well, this,

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this doctor praised me. But did you go through the process of learning is that that's not important. Medicine, the science of medicine, rather, the doctor who prays he himself is a doctor. Right? Right. He's legitimize through what? through being a what? A doctor? Yeah, okay, he studied, right. So I think that's the best way of looking at it is, is that is the way of the son of society? Is it just the praise that suppose in praise of one scholar? If it is, if that's if that's what Islam is and the Sunnah of the Salafi Muhammad? If that's what it is, then there's no discussion between us and him. If that's what you think and feel, then is literally nothing to talk about. And if that's

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not the case, then I think you should sit down and reinvestigate your theory. Now, we're upon guidance, because she went and spoke of us, he's got one of us. And because he was praised by this island, and then this item was praised by that item, and then it trickles down to the UK. And we're now in the masters of indulgence job, supposedly general tidy and supposedly, and we can push out what we want and pull in what we want. If that's what you honestly think and feel, allows know, we're living in a great time.

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state of illusion and delusion. Okay to think that that's how it works. All right, and there's so many different ways of looking at the fallacy of this. But once again, if 20 years of study, 15 years of study, scholastic achievements, if all of them are ignored, and this date because of one general vague praise of one item, then I would say,

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go ahead. You can't argue that any. There's not nothing to say. If that's what you consider the way of guidance in Mr. Ahmed in Raja mahadi. Men, Muslim women tell me the man who told if they considered one general vague idea, one item to be enough for a narrow

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chimpanzee enterprise doesn't mean it cheapens the entire enterprise for them to think that a single prayer is a good word is why I think that it's extremely disrespectful to knowledge. And that the people who claim to love knowledge and love the scholars, they themselves are extremely disrespectful to the scholars shouldn't disrespectful from so many different aspects. And from those aspects, are someone of no type of scholastic background to be attached to someone of a scholastic background. How is this your representative in the West? Right? shameful. And I'm not saying this to disrespect any scholar. And I'm not saying this to speak bad of any scholar. But this is a reality.

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There's a harsh reality, how this person, your deputy, your representative, and this person has not made any formal studies on Islam. I myself become one years old, and he doesn't know how to read. I don't I don't comprehend that. I don't comment. Yeah. And how someone who is the Yani, the least the Chief scholastically to be the leader.

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I don't understand. Really, I mean, I wouldn't if I had a marital problem, I wouldn't say I mean, I wouldn't do like, you know, someone who covered the Quran. I mean, I would find it very scary to find that this is to say the least. Yeah, say the lease. There's so many different problems with that whole entire argument and premise. But what I'm doing right now is focusing on have we imitated those people. The Prophet sallallahu Sallam says, will mentorship be common for a minimum? And most people don't understand the Hadith in a negative sense. Well, imitating people he's from them, good and bad. So are we actually copying and imitating the man Mohamed el Medina together?

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Are we? Are we being like them? They sought knowledge? How can a person claim to love the setup of silence? And he is opposed the foundation of the son of a silent which is in which his color, which is regular? and How can any scholar approve and allow this person to bear his name and his legacy in western countries, and like you said, marriage, divorce matches all types of affairs, it doesn't stop, and which a person has the full monopoly. I determine who gets married, who gets divorced, I determine what mesh it opens with mentioned is not open. How can you allow someone who's only I don't want to say anything bad about anyone, but how can you not someone who has no scholastic

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achievements represents you?

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I find that person extremely problematic. And as soon as the way they come across this the way they they reach their conclusions as well as, for example, I I'm not sure if I heard this from you one of your lectures that you were saying that when a lot of pannacotta was talking about why possibly have led me on a photo, he didn't put caveats in place. He didn't say anything except this and accept that he says and hold firm to the rope of Allah. And and you know, don't become divided by if I came on, if I came on or yourself, we came on right. We said, Let's hold

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on to not be divided. You can expect resistance,

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immediate, immediate resistance. And one of the reasons behind that is and

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how does that how does that work? The unification of the Muslims, the strength of the Muslims is not the objective. Yeah. Whether the objective is to weaken the Muslims, and to make them further separated and to spread further chaos. Do you think is there a parallel there like, you know, that this might sound conspiratorial, but the American government's bid to try and well, some argue, put black people up and equip them with weapons to it to kind of create these kind of gang violence is black and black crime or that kind of thing? Divide and Conquer, let them all kill themselves kind of thing. Let them destroy themselves. Is there a parallel between that approach and approach with

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There are no accidents.

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No coincidences. There is no doubt about that. There's no accident.

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And no coincidences, where did these things come from? who supports them? And like you just said, that is the backbone of their legitimacy shift for that has praised us. Why did he praise you? Yeah. And what was the extent of his praise? And was the detail of his praise? And does his praise override other things from Korean from Sunday to Friday, from consensus? or other scholars disparaging you? So why you just asked us as and what has happened?

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What is the many there are many, there are many before and after there are many there are many. And the point is not to pitch SCADA SCADA, that's that's what they do. That's not the point. The point is that what is the fruit and the result? What's the end result? And very important point is, is that who is being refuted? Who's being attacked? People have clear innovations

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claim as guidance clear cofa.

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Are those people or are there others? So I have no doubt in my heart, and along those best, is that there are people who don't want good for the oma. Yeah, and they want further division, further separation. And then they try to justify in Islam or fi their documentation intentions by saying, Oh, this principle and all this and all this, but the end result is what the end result is. So at the end of the day, at the end of the day, at the end of the day,

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the whole concept of the confusion, who is Sanofi was not Sanofi, who's refuted? Who's being refuted. chiffon and praise us chip for that spoke against this one. so on so forth, and gentlemen, brief is all a big game.

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It's a big game. Okay, it's a big game. And over the last 2025 years, we've seen the results of that game. Yeah, if a person actually is trying to follow the wave the sort of society and trying to be Salafi and trying to follow the tradition of Hades, then nothing would stop him or her from doing that.

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Bottom line,

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because someone you're not selected, because you said this. You're not a southern thing, because you did this and you're a deviant. Okay, no problem. You're not a Salafi, and you're deviant as well, because you oppose the sun. You didn't travel to see him.

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You didn't study? You didn't go anywhere. You didn't learn anything I didn't want to call you. Well, that's the first thing I learned. And

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we're just systematic knowledge. Where's your formal Islamic education?

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If you love the son of so much, how have you not imitated and copy them and emulated them and they're relentless, tolerable?

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So let's answer that question. First. Let's put that on the table first. Once we do that, everything else becomes easier. And that's because you're not qualified to speak on this issue. You're not qualified to talk about this scholastic science, you have no formal education. We don't want you to watch this PDF.

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We don't want you understand anyone can write a PDF and then we can cut and paste 10 people can sit in a room and put up an article, show us where you have followed the way demand met, and McCarty, and SOT systematic. And once you do that, then we can talk when we can discuss. That's what the concept of I've got a question for you about a talent template we talked about this is quite a concept of people who are selfie, not working with people who are not selfie, etc, etc. Where do you stand on this on this matter? Like do you what do you see as Do you see it problematic for example, if there is an enterprise, whereas let's say, our enterprise, or charity enterprise, or whatever is

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a project that is to be done? and Muslims from different denominations, if there's a common good black and Muslim, a variety, a common interest for all Muslims, that they would work together on even though for example, you might have Sufi and Salafi, let's say for the sake of argument, do you would you say that so long as

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you know, one is not we're not unifying upon our client, we're not unifying upon presuppositions, but so long as one is able to freely distinguish themselves, identity by identity, that in some contexts wouldn't be a problem, or would you take the hardline position of those individuals that say that's impossible, I would say that we don't cooperate with anyone, unless they're on exactly what we're upon. If they want guidance, they'll come to us. If they want the truth, they'll come to us. It is absolutely haram to go to them to speak to them to teach them. You can do anything in your community, your country, your state. Anyone else that is outside of our Gates is a deviant. They're

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going through the fire of hell, and allows Angular then we are guided, we have the knowledge. These are the scholars that we take from and other people that oppose us they are partisans, they have party partisanship with dim his via even though we say only us only me, and the whole entire UK only these and whole Arabia only these only only only, only, only, only, and we are not to do anything

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cooperation with anyone, unless they are 101%. Absolutely eye to eye. And

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that's my creed. And that is the way that the Muslims will unify. And that is when the Muslims will stand against their enemies. And that is the way that the Muslims will bring the honor and dignity to the name of Islam and the word of Allah will be the highest in the land, through this ideology and through this practice, that's my belief on that.

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Of course, if a Masjid invites me, I've studied in Medina, they said, Please come and give a class. I can't give a class. Of course not. I can't give a hook. But of course not. If the ignorant Muslims in my city say oh, we knew you when you were a little kid now you Mashallah please come teach us? Of course I can.

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Some permissible.

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So that's, that's my, that's my answer to that question. How would you, how would you, on a practical level, I have conversations with some people who do believe on a genuine level that there's no, there's no room for cooperation at all. No room for coverage. So in any situation, as I was saying, Go back to the scholars that they quote,

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don't look at the proofs and evidences. And that's because this is something very paradoxical. And if you debate with someone of this mindset, the debate will start off with your answer. No, no, no. You bring grant as soon as in your favor, the trivia support, you didn't say what scholars? You caught scholars. When I spoke to what I was sure.

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They are not religious scholars. It's about friends. You go back

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with me, and one of them was the I just said, you know, tough walk is a is a general. And and unless you get something which is the season specified, then we have to go with the generally, what they did was the idea of you can't you can't allow the game to go that far. It's a joke. It's a game. Yeah, once more, once more. Is it permissible for you to go to this message or the

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whatever, etc? You say it is permissible for me to go? Why is it permissible? A law says this. The prophets lie. Some says that the debate starts off with poor and Hades.

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They can't beat you in that, then it turns into scholars, scholars, scholars, scholars, Okay, no problem. We don't have to mention the crucial grounds. Let's talk about scholars, you caught another scholar through Scott, as you said, No, that's not a he's not a specialist in this, or he doesn't know that. That's from his mistakes. And that's from his errors. Okay, we can't win without my scars, then can we talk can we use a mock can use the argument will never go anywhere? It starts off with he had an answer was

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if you say well, I'm applying follow up this article said it's permissible. What I said no, you can't be a blind follower of him. You can only be a blind follower of arshia this year. So it's a game. You cannot allow the game to go on. It's not a scholastic debate. It is not an issue of in ministry had it's an issue of luck. It's a game, it's a joke. You call them out. You invite them to have a scholastic debate with a condition of no lead. They won't accept.

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Let me clarify what I meant. Let me explain what I said, No, we only deal with your recorded statements. We only cut and paste and edited interpret how we want to interpret the game, and do not allow the game to go that far. Let alone the fact that these people as I said before, they have not formally studied Islam, they do not deserve that type of respect. And once you sit down have an actual scholastic debate because they're unprepared for that, quote, and then it turns into Scott Scott is back to play the game, and you'll never ever, ever win, right? And we all know the man chef came along, Tyler, he's some of everything. And that is if you beat them, if you win, if you make a

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point, then their last frontier is to insult you and call you a bad name.

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says map now go to element 11 up to whenever I debated in learning man I was when I now go 2009 other two gentlemen.

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And I've never debated the Negro man except for the increment one. And that's because he does offer a handle who taught me Sonny, the weaker your knowledge, the longer your tongue. So you can when there's no making no sense out of it, then they're not going to listen to anything you say anything you bring anything that you prove. If you have a debate that starts off with the system, they'll take it to another system. That's first and foremost. That's first and foremost. Last but not least, is last but not least, the concept of a town eligibility, what's up law and what you can and cannot go to. I would advise I would add to it like

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Any society

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that's asked ourselves, these great scholars that we all quote from and learn from, and they quote from, what was their opinion in view? Did a bit go to other countries and other messages other centers? The Shannon Danny Rahim, Allah Tada, what should they be teaching? What books did you teach?

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This is a serious question. Yeah, he's in a bad shape. I'm gonna say mean, I'm Asha Muslim. When he returned from Saudi to Yemen, what message did he teach it? What books Did it teach what to teach? between me and you is history. And that is I do love robotics. And many of the setup, they would say, call them a stop metal Martin and Kevin is that manner, either him or Tony. Whenever they lied, and they fabricated, we use history against them.

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And many of the sort of they would also say ban and now we're being a cold metal coating between us and between them are links. And what's meant by the legs of the table is the sad need history. So you're telling me that I can't go into any Masjid. Unless, unless, unless, unless, unless? All right, let's not talk about Quran and Sunnah. Because we already know that that will never go anywhere. If I put a verse you say, That's not the proper understanding. I hold on, buddy. You said it's not the proper understanding. All right, no problem. a verse that you quote, I needed to quote, of course, that's the proper understanding. Mashallah, no problem. So let's call the scholars that

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you quote, and let's go to history, and this is not a slander, I hope it's not slander. It's not an accusation. And there's not a lot. But it's historical fact, that Dr. Shear reveal, if it hadn't automatically read his life, where he went, we traveled, who he taught, who he went out with, how can you say that? or How can you read this? And then say, Oh, no, that's specific to him. Chicago, Ben, or Mr. Tada, read the message on the books that he taught, and the Masters in what you taught, you'd be shocked to find Chima rahimullah before he established the marriage. Read what he did. You'll be shocked. Check with me, Chef members, when I read what they said, read what they did, and

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you'd be shocked. So let's not talk about granddaddy, sometime I thought of selling cars will never ever go anywhere talking like that. But I'm going to prove to you that you're a hypocrite.

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And that you're a liar. And that you hide information, and you hide facts. And you sweep history under the rug because it's against your agenda.

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That's nice. That's That's all I was saying. Between me between you is that historical fact. Why haven't you mentioned that about himself?

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Yeah, I mean, I've seen I've seen shift fosun and stuff appear on all kinds of shows and all kinds of programs. And I mean, just last year, they had like a king's meeting with people from Bucharest dominations, I think some

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effect as well.

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Or Sophie's all together,

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between me and you, is that the Islamic University of Medina, you can't study there. Because there has to be teachers people upon the way of Hassan al Banna. These were many scholars and many students of knowledge who studied an MSA. And it's also paradoxical, because they all call themselves selfie. So those who come from the match, they say, and this is this is a fact, it is hard on you cannot study an Islamic University of Medina, why can't you? They said, because all of your teachers, they are not Sufi, they're not upon the correct way, is the heart of muslimeen and Jamaat to do and this and that, and so on, and so on and so forth. And that's a fact. That is a

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fact, it's not a conspiracy. So in fact,

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those who do not like the subtleties of the match, do not agree with them. Don't actually go Hello, God in this one. Now, what do they say? They say? No, that's wrong. You can go to Medina, you can study Medina, but the history teachers, the deviant teachers, you know, you just you know, you navigate through it, you pick and choose, you take the class and you move forward. All right, no problem. So I can listen to a deviant teacher in school for five days out of the week, four years out of my life, but I can't go and teach a class to ignorant Muslims in the masjid.

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Don't you find a little hypocritical and contradictory?

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Hilarious at the least? Isn't that a little hypocritical? As you mentioned, Chef Hosanna. This scholar he appears on this TV program. He goes to this Masjid chicken meat went out with this group. He taught them he went out with them, that's fine. But we live in in the lens of copper. They shipped always their church bells and synagogues and Catholic Church. We're not allowed to make any to our any teaching, any investment, any contribution to our societies. Unless there's a long extensive list of conditions and prerequisites. I humbly find that to be extremely hypocritical. the lands of the Muslims were the most hostile should be used. I wish the Sudanese are dominant and

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backed by the government and paid for it and funded. They have the ability to say no you can't come here. No, we're not going there. No, we're not speaking here. And for argument's sake, if we had to go and do something which was wrong, for argument's sake, do to them.

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Any of the lands of COVID on which we live, let alone the fact that these Muslims in this Masjid, they're ignorant. They don't have no formal way. They're cabdrivers immigrants, there are people who came home from jail. They need people to teach them to educate them and give them the basics of Islam. And you tell me that I cannot go there. Worship for land could shuffle and I don't see any consistency in your argument. Rather, I find the rules to be extremely hypocritical. And until you establish the consistency and the parallel, until you attack that you speak out against that mooncup and that evil, don't say nothing about the UK in America lens of confidence shook. Because you're

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not you're not being honest, you're not being honest. And like I said, these are a few examples. And it's not a slam against any scholars, historical facts, historical facts read about you should have any shift Muslims should be read, where they went, what they did, and what matches they went into, and what they did to establish what they had to read about it. Don't take it from me. But we know for sure that they're not going to mention that.

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They have, they have no scholastic integrity,

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because it's a joke. So again,

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now, to end this podcast, I wanted to ask you now we've spoken about lots of different things, things relating to the preservation to some things relating to colorblindness. We also talked about some rogue aspects of the community and fringe aspects divide and conquer attitudes of these.

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I wanted to ask you now general advice, okay, for for

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beginner, but also for a diet for for the dog, you know,

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especially our field

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that was a non Muslims and

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given our two different types of Muslims who are just coming on practicing and stuff like that, what advice do you give us in terms of moving forward and to strengthen people? Clear sincerity.

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You got to be sincere. Who am I really doing this for? And what do I want for the people that I won't really do? I really want good for them. I don't want them to be guided. But I want them to remain upon this guidance. And allies know that if you are sincere and you honestly earnestly want good for someone, it's going to have an effect on what you're doing, how you're doing. And just that one point along that attitude of if they wanted the guidance, they will come to us. That's not sincere approach.

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It's not a sincere approach. It's not a sincere approach. If they want it then they will come to us if they wanted to be guided in a way that's not sincere. That is a gang mentality and a monopolizes mentality is that we have the truth and no one else is entitled to it. All right, so sincerity. Plus, you have to be sincere for those final words either for yourself, why am I speaking? Why am I talking? Why don't I like you? Or how many jab? Is it for the face of a loss sincerely? Or is it for other personal reasons? If I don't like you because of something that you did wrong was something that you're saying wrong? Then anyone else who does the same thing? Also, I'm forced to do what hate

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them as well. But we don't see that. You went there. You spoke your deviant he went there and spoke. It's a different story. I'll speak with you I'll talk with you but I won't speak with this one. I won't talk to this one. It's not sincere on the date with you or with anyone. Every time they can Harry of all walks of life in religious I'll sit talk with them. But I won't say anything to this person. That's not sincere.

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And that's because there's a clear prejudice in your love and in your hate.

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Clear or not. Okay, so we have the concept of a noble brother, a noble stab a noble teacher. Mashallah. No one's noble, except for these people. No one has any respect, no contributions to knowledge to him except for them. You can't be serious that's not sincere and approve that is not sincere is that there was a prejudice and your love and in your hate. I love anyone who falls under these conditions. And I hate anyone who does what falls under those conditions. So I class and the class sincerity for yourself, and having sincere intentions for the people that you're talking to, and you're speaking to what's good for them. You want them to be guided, you want them to receive a

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loss of mercy. You want them to know the truth. And not I'm looking for them to go to the fire sale. I'm searching for their mistakes. I'm searching for the errors. I'm looking for an excuse for me to legitimize them being banished and outcast. And then

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number one, number two is common sense.

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Data Dahlia, in a layman Muslim, you both have the responsibility of using common sense. Do you honestly think and feel that this is the religion of Allah deep down inside? this chaotic mess? Do you think this is a slam you think this would allow once from us? Do you think this is and do you think this is scholarship? scholastics? Do you think this is dogma? Do you think this is supposed to conduct yourself and behave and carry yourself as a Muslim as a scholar as a Dahlia, you

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Do lack sense that much? Not knowledge, but common basic aka and we all know the value of the mind in the Quran and the Hadith. And among the subtle facades as far as the Quranic yet then we don't have to mention a law says about the woman I'm sorry for that top pillow. Okay? A lot so Jasmine says

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to her a lot praises the mind. He praises good sound common sense, okay about no one is gonna be her praises and the Prophet alayhi salatu was to them. And so many a hadith he taught the companions the value of the sound mind. He said when he bought the aha deikun son when a man is intimate with his wife, his charity, what did the companion say? Yes, Allah at the nutshell what's uh, who we have, who the who we have a jeweler? How can a man fulfill his base desires, his carnal desires and get a reward from Allah? How does that make sense? What did the Prophet sallallahu Sallam say, all right, well, no, well, I have the Herman I cannot he was.

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He says that if a man fulfilled his sexual desires in a lawful way to get a set?

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course he would. So he gave the companions the power of the mind is that you have to see things correctly. Okay, the subtle side, such as in ematic Ly, Montana was praised. Many of the scholars have said they say matter Hmm, I didn't happen. And he said, I never saw a scholar of Hades, with a greater mind, a sharper mind and sound intellect. And he meant that they didn't praise medic for his piety, and then praise him for it in the present when he bought this iPhone, they praised him for his work for us.

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So having common sense, and common sense, is the foundation of genius. It's the kind of the foundation of a prodigy is to have sound solid common sense. And it was no doubt in our minority communities in America and the UK, in Canada was surroundings, your dogs, your dogs around me? How many dogs Did you hear barking so far?

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countless dogs were surrounded by coffee and sugar in innovation was surrounded by disobedience. It is upon me to use my common sense. How can I make things better? How can I contribute to my society? And that mentality of you can't you have to go back to him? You have to ask his permission. Yet that's not common sense. And we both know it's not common sense. All right. Number three bentonites. Allah is deserved success.

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deserve success, deserve guidance, deserve guidance, one of the most influential athletes of the 20th century. One of the most influential of them on me in my life. No doubt about that is Mike Tyson. Mike Tyson was far more than just a boxer. He was much more than just a boxer. And many people don't give him his proper status and value. He was just a brute or brawler, far more than that. And his teacher, his mentor, his shift. We all know what's custom model, custom model when he adopted him, he made him his adopted son. And he saw his potential and that he was literally a gifted, gifted young man, that will be the youngest heavyweight champion in the history of boxing,

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and SubhanAllah. That proves true.

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And right before he won the championship custom model died. Okay, he's younger than Floyd Patterson. All right. So the point of the story is, he gave this man principles and values of life and of boxing. And from those principles and those values was to deserve success. He would tell Mike Tyson, you're not going to win the fight because you're stronger, faster. But you wouldn't fight because you deserve to win the fight. And that's because you train harder than the next man. You studied it longer. You worked harder, you made your body creaking cringe and cry pain, you deserve to win. So we're confused on who to take from, who to listen to, who to sit with, to set a fee, who's not sign

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a fee. This person said this about this person is about I don't know what to do who learn I'm confused. Do you deserve guidance? You deserve to know how much of the basics of Islam Have you studied and mastered? Have you assured for yourself that you deserve Not to be confused? So most of us, we want to be guided, we want to be sure we want to be clear, but we don't deserve it. We're not working for it. We are not studying the fundamentals of Islam. We're not reading the fundamental books of slam, we're not studying the rudimentary things of Islam. And then we have the nerve to say I'm confused. I don't know who to listen to. You don't deserve to know. You don't deserve to have a

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clear distinction because you yourself, you don't value the fundamentals. You haven't trained hard enough, you haven't worked hard enough. And I'm not talking about being a scholar or a student or knowledge. I'm talking being a fundamentally sound Muslim.

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So that's a very important piece of advice for myself and for all of us is for us to deserve success deserved victory. And that is by hard work. And most of us are lazy when the

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logic, we want instant gratification satisfaction. We want to shift to tell us to give us a fatwa. When a brother says, oh, listen to him, and I said, we don't want to use our minds. We want to conveniently be spoon fed and pampered. And then we complain later on when we're lied to.

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And when we're misguided, and when someone goes astray, we complain, It's so confusing. One day, he's on a Sunday, the next day, he's on innovation. One day, we listen to him next day, he's a staunch innovator. You're going to be led around, you're going to be directed by you're going to be pulled by the air by anyone who pulls you here. And that's because you don't deserve success. So those are the three pieces of advice that I would give sincerity for laws or job is to use your common sense and being an act on it is to train and to work hard. And the layman Muslim to complimenting complimenting the fundamentals of this religion, and for a product with him to

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comprehend it or siouxland in which will lead him to deal with furore, and fat, and the different discrepancies among the scholars, which could be intimidating or confusing. And of course, with the last month on is our success.

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Zack Walker has been a pleasure having you on this podcast. So this is the seventh podcast chat longer term, put them all up on some kind of SoundCloud platform. What I was gonna say is that Could you just tell people about your YouTube channel and your Instagram, and some of your socials for people that wanted to follow you?

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zapple hydron for hosting me once again, it was my pleasure. And I will say that I'm handed out we have a deep disciple calm, Id disciple calm. And now on YouTube, we have several channels, we've had a disciple, and we have mostly q&a. Also on Instagram, we have different lessons, quotes that we post on Facebook as well. And basically how does disciple something that has been fermenting in my mind for many, many years. When I first started the YouTube channel in 2012, was quite I did studies and then humbler I always wanted to do something for myself by myself. I always wanted to be, inshallah, some type of key towards good. And I wanted to share what Allah gave me. I wanted to

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allow people to have access to certain things that he wouldn't normally have access to, via video via audio books that we discuss the things that we quote from so on and so forth. And some of the things that we like we love in our claim we'd like to share with you. So that's what I did the site was about. That's what mostly q&a is about. People to ask questions, people, they POST requests, we do different football, there's so many things. I'm that innovative, five minutes of Fado book reviews, different things like this, and which we have two main themes. The first theme is to introduce the layman Muslim to the sciences of the sun, and the scientism Hadeeth. Almost all the

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terminology, the books, hardly the preservation, how the sun was preserved in detail, because obviously a podcast you can't mention everything right? And also to give the Muslims advice, admonishments, guidance, and benefits those are the main points of ID disciple, and 100 as much more than just a website or a YouTube channel, but we consider it to be a mindset, or as we said, a philosophy. We consider it to be a school of thought, our way of looking at things a way of practicing things, emptying the cup, researching, studying loving knowledge, and being formless, being formless not being rigid and stuck to one way or to one path or to one person to one place.

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These are some of the guiding principles and some of the guiding values.

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And I'm very proud and very happy. And I'm very grateful that a lot of sponsor inspired me to share some of these things with the Muslims and non Muslims as well. But Allah bless you all for coming on as well. You know, continue to guide you, and I'll keep in mind, Mariela educate all of us, Guide us to the straight path. May Allah guide us about that which two people differ? Well, I want to stand in front of him on the Day of Judgment, and he's gonna be the only judge, the only King and we want to read we saw

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this was the seventh episode of the podcast that will fit on to you for listening to all of it.