Channel: Mohammed Faqih
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about the subject that is really meant to be mentioned or at least either defended in the lecture I wanted
to discuss this issue
and I hope it
is called points of order
this word point of order with anyone
that means, have you ever heard this? Do you ever watch c span
So, there you
see translation for
reducing error is called point of order.
No Actually, order is cool, it's it's an expression. It's a term
call a point of order as a member of any political
in the case of one of the agreed upon set of principles being violated or broken.
So, if someone doesn't procedurally there's something in the process that went wrong. That goes against some of the principles, some of the agreed upon principles, maybe someone was just something that is against the Constitution.
Try to pursue something in the wrong fashion. Following your process, someone could quote point of order, but that process and say this goes against the well established principles.
So because it's greatly more
the reason I use it is because today, not only today's world, but many times people
do violate some of the well known principles, and this was
in the process of trying to
do the right thing.
Or in the process of objecting to the wrong thing.
seen the difference, either in the pursuit of
while they're trying to do something good, or when they object to something wrong, or to what they believe is wrong.
In the process, they violate some of the well known established Islamic principles. And I just wanted to talk about those principles, of course, also called tonight's session, agree or disagree. This was one of the catchy title.
You know, people a lot of Catholics say, let's all just agree to disagree.
And that statement, is not necessarily always it's not always true. For example, it's possible because there's disagreement that you don't agree upon,
There is another expression that people use this they say, let us work on that which we have in common, and partly the subject or avoid discussing the differences.
So they try to basically avoid areas of differences and disagreements. And let's just work. That's another expression.
Of course, one of the reasons why
is because this is something that really affects us and consider this whole on the individual level,
in your profession and your studies and in whatever you do with personal life, your relationship, and also at the family level, because obviously, we have difference of opinion between the husband and wife, children and parents, relatives,
and so on.
the communal level of the community, as well as the international law. We have all kinds of disagreements. And we need to remind ourselves of the greatest Islamic principles
and ethics, when it comes to this.
is a background of why do we disagree, what causes disagreement,
even with issues
levels of worship.
But I'm going to bypass all of that, we need to revisit it and talk about it immediately come to the discussion, and go straight a fourth principles that are very important, I just got to do the short version, the
four principles that are,
before I get into those principles, of course, we're talking about the positive or the good type of disagreement.
Because we talked about,
we talked about disagreement amongst people very healthy,
as the negative discourse that takes place,
the healthy type is that which is based on
what is known as an Arabic,
valid interpretation, valid deduction of certain rules
based on knowledge, variation of knowledge, or variation in the understanding of any passage. So differences could occur. And of course, one of the most
key qualities that you find that kind of disagreement is that associates genuine.
Right, and it's not true. Some people call it normal or natural, it's a natural people failing in terms of their ability
in terms of their
skills, in terms of their ability to interpret or comprehend certain things and their application as well, of what they understand. Amongst
other people that differences.
That's a normal natural, this the negative, the unhealthy, the destructive type of disagreement, and sometimes referred to as
a dispute. And that is the one that is the one that is based on design, or personal interest or personal gain.
And that's the ethical. So now let's just focus on the person, the ethical, the one that is valuable, natural, whatever you want to call it.
Even within those kind of differences, people lose focus of some of the basic advocates, and some of the agreed upon principles in Islamic
from the sock perspective. The first one is, and basically relying on an article written by chips.
You can, by the way, find the data. The first one, he says, The first one is that we must not
overview those with whom we disagree.
You don't have the right to censor
censorship, you don't have the right to basically strip the other person from what you claim to have, right.
Sometimes we claim that we have the right to express ourselves. And then in the process, we basically deny those with whom we disagree in the same life.
And in order for us to really
in order for us to, to really keep that in mind, we have to remember certain principles. For example,
was the last time that wills promised that he wanted he would have made all of humanity one nation, one nation one, one way, one thing, this made us similar
last time, it was his will, to test us and made us have
various level of understanding that will result into differences
in another person. So, when I say anything,
they will continue to be to have differences and
a lot of that actually considers this variation,
diversity that we have diversity of
race languages, which is, by the way, which are some of the factors of differences that people have, because it will result in differences in their cultural and sometimes
their cultural standards and values. So, that would result in a difference in the last kind of value set.
In a company scenario.
Musk says great science is the creation of the heaven and earth, as the differences
are the diversity in terms of your cover video.
end, there's a sign there are signs.
So, one has to remind himself of those, those facts, Facts of Life, the last paragraph establishes even though
sometimes we have this idealistic view, we think everybody has to say, people have to see,
we have to see
we have to be on the same wavelength we have, we don't have to,
we don't have
so, just considering or keeping this back in mind will help us avoid wanting to censor or wanting to suppress the those who oppose us or those who disagree with us.
Number two, we must uphold justice at all times.
You have to be just and fair
You have to be just lots of different practices.
Right? Whenever birth attracted
in one person wants to have sex
or real graduates so something killed against someone because they're different because they want something Do not let that cause you to transgress.
one of those forms of transgression is what Miss judges
Do not let it live it should not let you transgress and another thing the other person says
should not let you be unjust unfair
if you have
a hole or stick to justice for that is the closest to pipe that is part of the pipe
and we find in our car
many evidence stories amazing stories, for example, but
before of of
got his first name basically wasn't wasn't.
He went to stole a harbor.
And then he took it
To a Jewish merchant in Medina, and he actually took it and put it in a bag made of cloth.
And that happened to have a hole is really great in the process of trying to hide that armor
from the, from the scene of the crime scene where he started, and he went to a store of Jewish merchants.
And then he told them to keep it with him.
just keep it here, and I'll come later. And then he left. Now, they are the some of the
the people who were the victims of this crime, they heard that this might be the person that they went to, they couldn't find it.
But they noticed that that was this, this line
this back in which he actually put it happened to have flour, what he did, is he hidden inside a bag of flour.
So that flour with made the money. So they follow that line and took them to where where did it end, in that section of the marketplace, where were Jewish merchants used to have stores, and in particular to that store.
So they went to him and said, Where's, where's the
that looks like it's full of flour
as they call it, and all of the merchants there and testified that that's what happened. So, they went to the other guy, he did it.
So, now the family of Islam, what is the purpose of the wise they said
this you are accusing us is a false accusation now, and this is the Muslim
side, we should side with him
you know, when I was his word against his work, but this guy has all these weaknesses.
So, the issue became a crisis calls a lost contact in the real versus from the fat in that has a negative impact
that we have indeed revealed to the book. So that ruins people by the truth that was
you not sight with the with the traders do not sign their own meaning and then versus go on and on and on exposing this in a way establishing the guilt
and ruling a loss paradigm in the favor of distribution
basically ended up running away it became a fugitive and he ran away he committed apostasy I don't know what happened to that. But right there last time. And there are many other stories that that show that
the prophecy was similar.
Wherever I became I became a filmmaker
before I became the freezer, but a year or two before that there were the Wars of
processing that took place almost entirely
denounces our for the devil
in the Battle of the man
was killed literally upon his own father.
They were very, very close with the man that killed him.
reverted back to snap he became a
couple of years later, he became the
mayor of the city. And this man is one person
sit by what I do not like I don't like
I have this resentment.
Very, very close. So he says to him, Well, you're not liking me that caused you to deny me with some of my hearts.
As I said, No, no way. This is
I don't care what
you said. I don't care. I'm not a woman.
I don't care. I don't care much for
the emotional part is that song delivered by
He wouldn't let his hatred or the issue that he has caused.
I'll give you a story that's actually a little more obvious than that. But upholding
Let's just go over six points.
Okay, let's go over a few points when it comes to
part of this, this is means
that, that you stablish your point, or you reject the other person's point, based on certainty
based on certainty, Now, another person was opposing based on certainty as well.
So you have to be certain it shouldn't be all
it has to be based on certain things.
You should keep in mind the issue. The second point is, keep in mind that equality, people are equal
you should not favor people based on their
race or their culture.
People shouldn't be judged equal. So the person's the racial, or cultural background should not be one of the basis of your judgment. That should, that should not have anything to do with your judgment. And I'll give you an example. How many times have you heard people going stereotype interview say, well, it's most likely true, what they said about him. Why? Because he's from such and such place.
Just because he happened to be from a group of people that you think are more susceptible, or most likely to engage in the action itself. You should not
be shy, it has to be based on remember first principle, uncertainty, certainty.
That's part of this, because that's what we, what we demand from people. When people either judge us or they think they think of us, we want people to judge us based on certainly based on the merits of our own actions and status, not based on our cultural or racial background.
points. Also, a third point when it comes to upholding justice is that this isn't science principles, whether
we should expect goods from people, so people by nature,
unless proven otherwise. And what falls under this principle is that the accused or the suspect is innocent until proven guilty. People are innocent until proven guilty. This is not a question.
So just because the person was accused was the person is
a person accuses someone else, you know, unfortunately, nowadays, we have some twisted mindsets as individual sometimes as culture,
we demand from the accused the proof of their innocence. Unfortunately, now, once you are used, you're guilty. Now you have to prove your innocence.
Although the law says the opposite, but the culture does not follow that. Islam says they have been
doing the same thing.
was obligated to provide the proof,
to establish the gift
is by default, innocent. So I should not break.
prove your case. And unfortunately, in many cultures, we do this. Something is said about the sister or something instead of our work, but now they have to pursue or they have to go and convince people that this is not
because and we spread the word around. And this is part of violating this principle upholding justice for those who disagree.
Okay, another principle, very, very important, very important that it is necessary
for the word and the invoice to allow a massacre.
So someone says something,
write a word
why he said it or she said it.
That is not something that you will be able to see or gauge. People don't have
one body, no one, no matter what it is, and no one.
And no human being can read minds, anyone that claims otherwise is alive. No one can read minds,
or no questions. Only a boss
And even, even if you have the ability to do that, even if it's just
you would have not been able to judge the person especially if you are a judge or if you are in a position of authority, you will not be able to establish guilt based on your knowledge. It will have to be based on the physical
certain evidence and proves you can even use circumstantial evidence is not admissible. In court. It has to be physical in order to separate the classic out just clarifies did let me ask you a question does the officer wants to know the hypocrites or not
would come to life in the space. And I showed him what is in their heart yet
what with any ordinary person based on the facts. So someone comes down and says
I couldn't go to this expedition. I couldn't, I couldn't. I couldn't do knowing that all he knows is why and
he knows that they're actually getting himself in trouble. Now must have children.
But he couldn't, he could basically take the point he could punish them.
Based on what he knew, they say this is a very important principle, you know that they can if a judge by the way in Islam, according to the Islamic
justice system, if the judge saw a man committing murder,
right, if the judge saw a man of his own eyes,
and then this particular case was brought to him in the court, it was it was brought into court.
The judge will not be able to judge based on his knowledge, he will have to find two witnesses to eyewitnesses testifying against this person in order for him to
or the person will have to confess
the judge can be
of course, this is for the judge itself to become a witness and for someone else to
know based on his knowledge, he can
Yeah, this is how sophisticated
This is established
from the Europeans.
Part of being just upholding justice by the way is
admitting or recognizing the good
just like to recognize and admit the bad about the trick about the vote those who oppose you.
Okay, with any rights
those negative points that were holding his personal value because taking into consideration the positives. I know.
This happens a lot in personal relationships,
especially between husband wives
and he will do good or
But then one day we come and make a mistake. Everything that you do this,
oh my God, I've never seen anything good from you, you're always this, you're always that this is this is unjust, this is tidy, this is considered lack of justice. Although sometimes you might think this series we have to keep. And actually, one of the qualities of the hypocrites is that they do not mention the good, they only mentioned the negative and they transgress
in case of dispute within the hospital.
So we have three important, especially if we are reminded that we need to really be in control of our emotions and not allow emotions to call the Stress Stress across the body.
And so you have to recognize that all you have those qualities with someone.
Before someone always you will never this is this is too much. And this interesting story
one of us have the same proposal set on our last
day of judgment will be established at the end of time. Basically, there always will be the majority.
Population isn't. So Ross, who was the one of the commanders.
And he fought mainly
he was involved in the battles against us general rebels against the Normans, in shanty region in Georgia and Palestine and all these series as well as he was the carpenter of Egypt, as well as he fought before the Romans in this region. So no one knows he has a habit of thought or depth or interaction with them.
And they actually he was over there.
He was one of the most wanted people to
change, certainly interesting dialogues with some of the leaders. But he said,
he said he objected to the statement. He said, watch what you're saying.
What are you saying?
He said, a blue
light. So what he says so this companion said, I say that was our policy. I'm not making this up.
We have to
well, if this is that you really see this, then I have noticed that they have four noble qualities, therefore good qualities.
And then he starts he started listing those topics, one of those policies that he mentioned that he ordered, he said something like he's quick to recover from a catastrophe.
Very, very quick.
If something evil because they're quick to recover.
The result is that they have said that
they're gonna say no, they're recovered. And he says they're quick to seek revenge and retaliate if they are wrong.
And then he says
he also complimented over a third of the premieres of good cameras, the little bit of Congress. And he says the fourth quality was that they are the best to the poor and the weak.
But he said they are the best to the poor, again, we don't neglect the weak and we and the unfortunate the unfortunate or the less fortunate myself the habit of consideration
any place in the world and finally, by the way, this is true. Even today.
Even today is whether you go to Europe or you go to
It is pretty true.
The those who have disability or the
With all kinds of challenges in their lives, at least there are laws in place to protect their life and their rights. And we have
activist groups that basically
advocate for the rights of those individuals. We have laws and when you come to any of our countries, healthy people cannot make it through some of those stairways here you have coats, you have, you know, city fire hoses with that and
you have to have handicap access, you know,
you go to any church, most of the time, it goes in many places, you finally respecting those parked in the handicap zone, but
know, this issue of courtesy and being kind to
most of the orphanages in the world run
supportive bye, bye, buy,
buy the Europeans in the billions of dollars spent
more than any other any other organization. So, this is this, this is true, to a certain extent, to a certain extent, because someone
is homeless people in LA in New York and it was certain extent it is
And he said what he
they then he stopped after.
After he said, there are four noble qualities about them, he said, Oh, he remembered what he said, they have also fifth one, which is very good about your praiseworthy quality. And that was that they
basically, they stand against the aggression of the Romans.
They don't put up with dictatorship, or they this they stand against the aggression,
and oppression of the Romans.
In the Middle East, it's the opposite. It's the opposite. It was a cow.
issued by nations, in our countries. They if anyone, if any stranger from outside, the standard is
oppressed by their own people.
If we have oppressed by our own people, we don't have we can live 30 years, 4050 years. But if your question comes from outsiders or from
but he says that he
praises the quality that the owners have, that they do not put up with the aggression, or the the, the oppression of the rulers. dictatorship doesn't last about it, it comes down.
And of course, we have all kinds of evidence, but back
to the old days, or even in recent history of Europe, and America, they don't
they might be fooled,
and these days.
So they started with a question for the viewer question. So now before we bring on Mrs. Look how on our house
and we have serious issues with them and they disagree. fight the war is the greatest form of yet. His
opposition or his hatred or his
disagreement with them did not prevent him from recognizing some of their positive qualities, that he has the integrity to bring it and praise him for it.
The second principle is upholding the
justice. The third principle very important is that we must be patient
forbearing and willing to accept the abuses of others without responding.
Now if it happens
Someone who opposes cross cross the line, we should probably educate is that we should not take them at their level and cross the line
we should remember Muslims is that we are people of principles and values.
Those values of ours are solid,
solid values and principles,
we should not compromise
under any circumstances
we should not buy
So, any kind of question should not should not make it our commitment. And our
faith in those values and principles is, is really solid, it's effective, we will.
So, we should keep that in mind.
in order for us to do that we have to do we have to have patience.
Be patient and outdo your enemies for your
patients, you have to be patient.
You have to be patient. Of course, we know we have evidence from the from the life of the prophets of Allah.
We have pivots from the life of some of the greatest people in our history, a
very well known story was
when he defeated the crusades,
I supposedly you have the option,
you have the even by the way, if you're wrong, sometimes you're wrong.
if you are punished,
if you are wrong,
you can retaliate at the same old transgressive laughter. Without going beyond that, however, what is above and beyond is what it will suffer.
If you are patient,
it is better for those who are patient.
So, when you are in a situation with someone, you have, you can either do the same thing or you can rise above the occasion
and be better
not be the same. But never ever go be goalless never ever wronged someone or go beyond what they did. So, we have to keep that in mind a must have access
to SQL you will be tested
in your wealth and your bodies physically and financially because what that says
you will hear from those who will give you a book with scriptures before you when we had the Heat Shock of those who
from the pages we start with a habit and those will come back
to life harassment they will harass you, they will put you down building something they might get hurt you you will you will get back
shape. So sometimes especially
being a Muslim after 911 you know sometimes
why we sometimes shocked and surprised
like it was never meant to happen.
They will force you they will have false accusations they will put you down they will accuse you they will insult your property they try to
Don't try to be sharp.
If anything, this shows me that you are the truth. If nobody cautions you, if people accept you, that is not necessarily a good thing.
No principles, you have no values.
You are accepted by everybody. So you don't have to please this company. If you are accepted by everybody. Even politicians don't get that right even
as they try to play politics and try to please everyone.
But if you have friends,
sometimes even the majority of you, so don't be surprised.
The fourth point and the last one is
We must be humble and sincere.
We should not become self centered, and a loser.
Whatever you want to call
narcissistic individuals, and we think that the truth is whatever we believe is the truth, and everybody else in our shop in a sense that this is a very important person that you should always keep in mind with this principle that he said, our opinion,
this is our he's talking about
age, marriages and
holidays and others, more than 40 of them had differences amongst them. So they have principles, they have principles, and they have ethics, especially the 14 months. Right and holding on to that, right. And those who wish to see a photo of
those who were following my photos are the ones that that resort, the ones that fall
The blind follows, but the amount of stem cells and sincere, lawful powers never get back the secular principles, but they didn't have styles for follow them. But they were blind Carlos.
He said, this is our opinion. So well, we consider our opinion to be correct.
With the possibility of
with a margin of error, there is a margin or a possibility of it being wrong. But the reason we adopt this opinion, is because we believe it is correct. And since it's an opinion, it is not necessarily whitening, it is not the word of the law, and wherever is profit, the chance of that has to be 10% 1%.
But there is an argument. He says why.
And the opinion of those reporters
come up is wrong, we consider it to be wrong
with the possibility of being correct. So we always, and I have never debated anyone except that I have a quote, when I get into a debate.
I always hope that I asked him that he is right or wrong. Because he said, I am certain. Because when I get into the discussion, I am certain that if I found out that he has a truth that I will follow.
But I'm not sure if I have a truth, whether he's going to submit to it or not. But I will submit. So therefore I asked him, it's a lot easier. He says my discussion of dialogue, if my opponent is correct, and I'm wrong, because the result the end result will be icing
cake effectively. And I think this is true, especially
for us, especially in the process of building a community trying to come together we always talk about unity and oneness of all.
He said he he's amazed and shocked and surprised by how he says How could How could we fail?
How can we fail to come together on the basis
of the majority of matters that we have in common?
Suppose that you and I have differences
of opinion, on certain matters and a few things. What is it?
amongst all of those common issues that we have as Muslims? What does it
have to do with that device? That's what he's saying? How can we let that device
forgiving and failing? The maturity that we have?
If we have 80% income, but we agree upon e percent. We agree upon 20% disagree. How could the point percent
you know what I
said It must be because of our commitment to the 80% is not true. It's not authentic. And we are more committed to differences and disputes
and causing disunity in different people division. They are more committed to that than we are
So we should keep this in, we have plenty of room, plenty of issues, plenty,
plenty of marriage to work on and talk about and address.
And if we fail,
then our commitment to the majority of what we believe in is not true. So we need to keep this in mind. And we have to take this seriously.
And brought this up is, and I think, I think we shall,
I will do a follow up session, maybe one or two of those.
In the future, we're hoping to make either a mini conference or invite some of the local Sharla. Here
to talk about this matter, because this is a new anywhere, anywhere I go.
With Chicago this weekend, I have an event that is where you go when I asked him given what we asked him
about. If you ask the adults that we close the bowels of the community,
they will ask you to talk about unity. That's the number one issue.
Of course, if you asked as
they asked me to talk about marriage,
but even so this issue of unity is phenomenal, but many also this type of unity. And it has to do with Unity.
But this issue of unity coming together is on the minds of
yet every year
we to disagree and fight. Some people even make jokes about it, they call it more exciting is called bullfighting
twice, I call it the fitness
market. This is the fitness
community that is 30 years old. What is it? 3035 years. I've been there for over 15 years. And I know that active work started since the 80s. I mean 38. So when
we talk about conferences, big national level is at least a quarter of a century, 25 years, how could we fail for 25 years, and coming to conclusion.
And just agreeing on something on a policy on an issue that is as as important and as sensitive and delicate as the issue of the beginning of column one.
Which happens every single year, we wait until a week or two before we start the fight.
And then it carries on for 40 days and that spoke. And then next year, some kind of fear is on the fight here is on intellectual property. You shouldn't be finding a question. But again, the issue is not. So we really have to Let's become as as varied as we come together when we try to really address this issue. And if we succeed at the level of this community, that community, that community and create models, this is not going to happen. So then you have to be committed, what do we have to be committed? We have to keep in mind as we come together, we have to keep in mind that those principles and advocates have to disagree with that one has to commit to
Want to finish up and the floor is yours. I have five minutes to answer the question and the objection that you might have