Karim Abuzaid – The Death of George Floyd with Imam Muhammad Ndiaye

Karim Abuzaid
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So, brothers and sisters in Islam

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inshallah we will be joining you monetarily I will sign off a little bit, and we'll be back at night either

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in less than an hour.

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Date Neela I was told that the ship is ready Let me see if he's ready. Maybe we can hook him up right here.

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But these are really sad.

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Brothers and sisters in Islam Let me see if we can finish here

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j enjoy.

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Mohammed enjoy, Sheikh Mohammed enjoy. We have the shade right here ready? inshallah, let me join you and please

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Alhamdulillah Alhamdulillah Sheikh Mohammed, let me just fix that here. The light is a light clear with Yeah, if we can get more light there would be great, but you're looking you're looking fabulous, but

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you'll find inshallah, but if we can, that would be fine. Shall I be delighted? Chef Mohammad, if possible, can you please allow the viewers to, to?

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You know, live.

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We have almost 300 400 actually people watching us here.

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Can you introduce yourself, that's what I like to do.

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And first of all, I'm very thankful to you to, to take the time and and to join our broadcast.

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I was joined by Dr. Todd, wait, you probably know him, Philadelphia, and we address the subject. But we were looking forward to your

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insight and I happened to listen to your last Friday hooked one I was touched by it.

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But let us first inshallah

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introduce you to the audience, to our viewers. And brothers and sisters in Islam, I'm going to let you know that we're going to take questions from you, the phone lines will be open for you. But allow us just 1015 minutes to start the conversation with the shift in sha Allah. Sheikh Mohammed, please go ahead and introduce yourself.

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So don't worry too much, Rebecca.

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This is your brother in Islam. Mohammed MJ originally, originally from Senegal, West Africa.

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I came to this country in 1999 and I have been Imam ever since I taught in many schools in many masajid and since 2006, I found it the ad hoc foundation where I have been the mom and the directors since 2006.

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So, your community is more Mex or are you you know we we always have these massage it will you know I always when I preach Mr. Mohammed I will say sign of success in a nutshell that when you enter you see multiple

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races, multiple colors, multiple ethnic background, in my opinion that means this machine is doing the right

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type of work which should be done in the United States in particular, unless if the whole community is that nobody you know about one race or one gender What is your take on this hamdulillah salat wa salam ala rasulillah we think Allah azza wa jal much machine I'll have is a very diverse community. There is not one community that outnumbers the other. When you walk in here, like I always mentioned to my community members, anytime you sit in this machine, when you look to your right, you have a brother or sister from a different country, different nationality than you. And when you look to your left, you see another brother from a different country and different nationality. So how do you

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learn we have a bit

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that's beautiful.

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Mr. Mohammed,

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let me

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show you

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what got my attention. Let's begin with this video. And then we'll take it from there inshallah. I'm sorry, it's a little bit disturbing.

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I'm sure you've watched it and quite frankly, it's very disturbing to me personally. That's why I decided to get

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a small clip of the actual murder of George Floyd. And I disagree with the MPC report because they said they I mean, they're talking about intoxication and you know, the strangling is the murder is the immediate cause. So

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it's it's a two minute so let's see the

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prosecutors say officer Derek Chava and had his knee on George Floyd's neck for eight minutes and 46 seconds, including two minutes and 53 seconds after Floyd become unresponsive. This afternoon the county prosecutor explain why the charges came today. We have the officers body worn camera we have statements from some witnesses. We have a preliminary report from the medical examiner. According to the charging documents police were responding to a call of Floyd using a counterfeit $20 bill during the attempt to put a handcuff Floyd into the police car. The defendant pulled Mr. Floyd out of the passenger side of the squad car held him with a knee to the neck. At one point another officer asked

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should we roll him on his side? Shaaban replied No staying put where we got him. Prosecutors contend Mr. Floyd being restrained by the police. His underlying health conditions and any potential intoxicants in a system likely contributed to his death. But the prosecutor says the preliminary autopsy does not support that Floyd died from strangulation. Benjamin Crump represents Floyd's family, they were very clear in their position that it should be first degree murder charges and the other officers should be arrested to the third precinct police. Mr. Mohamed, there are two two things here. The taking of the life and an innocent person who's not fighting.

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We know that it's legal in Islam to fight someone who was fighting. Yes, in a declared war in, you know, hostile environment. Even there are certain rules of engagement. We can tell that George Floyd is no longer giving the officer a hard time to the extent that he is placing his hand in one of his pockets that means he's totally relaxed. What does Islam say about taking the life of an individual who is not fighting

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hamdulillah salat wa salam ala rasulillah as you quoted it very well. We're party Lu feasability, Layla Jenna your party Luna como la Tata do in Allah Allah you able Mata de la, indeed fight on the path of Allah, those who fight you and do not cross the boundaries, do not overdo it. And indeed, Allah does not like those who cross the boundaries. In this case, from what we have seen, because as Muslims, we can only testify from what we have seen with our own eyes.

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Most Clearly, we have seen in this short clip, some have seen it clip of 10 minutes, some may have different may have seen a different video. But what I have seen personally, is that Mr. George Floyd was not resisting arrest at all. From the time he was taken out of his car was handcuffed. We we saw that he was moved from there. He was walking with the offices behind him. And at some point he was on the ground. And like you said, This man had his knee on his neck, and very casual and very comfortable. He put his hand in his pocket. I don't think that if somebody was fighting,

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aggressive, you would have time to put your hand in your pocket. So clearly, this is wrong. And as Muslims, we have to voice our opinion, regardless, regardless of who did the wrong, even if it was a Muslim who did something wrong. As the process tell him he told us to help your brother if he has done wrong,

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you know, so there's a habit they asked, we understand if our brother did something if he was wronged. We understand how we can help him but if he did something wrong, how can we help him? It is by giving him naziha by guiding him by correct. Prosecutors say officer Derek Shaaban

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Let's say officer Derek shot.

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Prosecutor say officer Derek shot that situation what we have seen. And as Muslims, we have to take position and express our anger, express our sadness. And we are calling all our brothers and sisters, Muslim and non Muslims, white, black or racist. We are calling everybody to come together and stand for this injustice and let people know that Enough is enough. It is time for things to change. inshallah humbler again, I was asked if you can just you see half of your head is not showing. So. Unless if your coffee is too high that Yeah, perfect. Perfect.

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That's perfect. No, just just go back to where you were. Yeah, perfect, right? Just keep it at that Jessica lowfield type. What is your take on three? They were three, right? The total four, they were three standing and seeing this

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and knew as a Muslim, you know?

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What is the position of a Muslim seeing another Muslim?

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doing something wrong? Should we be silent? Or should we you know, what is your take on this? This is the the saddest part about the video when you watch it. When you when you see the officer putting his knee on Mr. Floyd, basically slaughtering him. Well, he this this, this reminded me of how we do what we have. When we when we when we have

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satellite, it's the image that

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no seriously It is nice it you know, what we are slaughtering, but we have, you know, you have three or four brothers, they're holding the sheep bound, and you have one.

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Remember sheep, even with that, the Hadith, Allah who wrote on everything that he has

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to say,

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you know, even even with that, when we as Muslims, we slaughter our, our what we have on the day of eat, or when we have a child and we're slaughtering the sheep or the lamb. We are doing it in the most beautiful manner. The first time I saw him, he said in a hadith that Allah azza wa jal has ordered has commanded sn Allah cliche on everything that you do. So even with that, you know, make sure that the knife, you sharpen it, you know, and then say, Bismillah, Allahu Akbar, do it in the most humane way possible. But this man, he had, like I said, the knee on demand, basically slaughtering him lynching the mayor, casually, with the hand in the pocket, very happy about what he

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was doing. And the other three officers who are holding him down in hearing this man pleading for his life begging. And at some point, even last

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year, it was so sad to watch, it's heartbreaking to watch. And these people, whether they are Muslim or not, right is right, wrong is wrong. So whenever you whenever you see something wrong, you have to stop it as the head is mentioned.

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You see something, you see one cut, you stop it, either with your hands, if you have the capability of using your hand to stop it, which those officers had the means. If they got up and push him to the side, yes, hey, fellow officer, this is not right. We have subdued demand, let's take him to the car and taking to the station, it would be over all the things that we are seeing today burning down these cities, the malls and everything, it would not have happened. And this takes us back to the Khadija what a poor fit. And I don't know, we'll see. No.

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It was a very small event that started from a fake $20 bill, which maybe the men did not even know about how many times this happens to all of us. It has happened to me, people would come and give you a whole bunch of money. And maybe one of them might be it happened to me in the past, I had no idea where this money came from. If I had gone to a bank or to a store and used it so part a lot, you know, and people have to have understanding that. You know, as the process I'm sad when you see something wrong like that. They move it with your hands. If you cannot at least you have to speak against it. Be very verbal and very firm about it. And that's what we are doing as Muslims as moms,

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we have our manorbier we have the social media, we are going to make our voices heard the argument, Dr. Muhammad Ali Muhammad

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that we always have, oh you guys just out of spoking when the same exact things happening to the Muslims.

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In Philistine in an RO hinga. In I mean, not necessarily the same fashion but very similar.

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How do you respond to that? As if Okay, you didn't speak there, you shouldn't be speaking here.

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You know, as a matter of fact, you should be speaking do more than here.

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I mean, is it a valid argument to be passive regarding what is taking place in your neighborhood?

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It's a very valid argument, but and hamdu Lillahi Rabbil alameen. I will not be one of the Imams that somebody can attack with that argument, because there is not an issue that is affecting the Muslim world that I have not spoken about on my minbar whatever it is, you know, as we always say, you Bella una de sala de la Shona, who, whether you actually had any luck, this is our approach when it comes to all these matters, that are affecting Muslims around the world in akasa in South Africa, intervening in Somalia, in Sudan, in China, wherever it may be around the world, our voices have been heard. So when we see one clap, whether it is done to a Muslim or done to a non Muslim we will

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stand up and speak against it in Sharma just take a look here on the subject of on Soria

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racism and and you know

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I always

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you know like to reflect upon Hadith Abdullah have none if no loss or the love on Homer, I think the Hadith fee Muslim, mad soon and Ibiza would bizarre satirical hack and it's authentic, actually the first will that we have access to

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when North was about to die, he called upon his children. And he said, I'm leaving my will to you

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all see, COVID-19 he was unhappy. Come on isn't a tiny

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I enjoying you to

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take care of too and to stay away from too As for the first two is La ilaha illa Allah Subhana Allah He already handed let me go to the point of reference here so I can ask the question and a baniel stay away from too as shikaku well kibou

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polytheism associating others setting rivals, some people who are not you know Muslims watching us

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in worship with Allah Subhana Allah and bride and arrogance, pride and arrogance. And if you look at this hadith carefully Imam Mohamed it started actually with a bid when who you know is dressed in a way not a bit when way he was actually reading. You know,

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the companions when the prophets Allah, Allah, Allah mentioned bride, he said they are a suit Allah, we like to wear nice cloth and and you know, and decent we like to look good. The Prophet said no, and we'll keep bu Botha will help tea, while humbleness.

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Can we talk about the context of, of Brian being thinking that you're special because of your color? And this is across the board, by the way, there are African American who are racist, and there are gyptians who are racist.

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Can you talk and where does it originated? And how Islam treated that Mohammed, if you can speak on this subject, please. Very very excellent question. You know, this idea of also Ria, Islam racism

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it can be directly connected with al Qaeda with arrogance with pride. And and the origin of it was when a lot of agenda created Adam it he said and he ordered the angels the mighty Inca to make sudo is Julie Adam faceva Do you believe Lem yaku minister god no but my mana aka alert su there is a MacBook or an inhaler Minho, kind of 20 minute walk I love the human brain. So if we take it from the original source, we will see that racism, which we can define broadly as one race thinking or believing that they are superior than another race. And I will branch off a little bit from there. To clarify my point when I said in my hoodie the other day that anybody can be racist. It is unfair

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in it that some black people like myself, they say no only white people can be racist blacks cannot be racist. I totally disagree with this racism as its fundamental. It is for one particular race, whoever you are, whether you are white, your yellow, your black, what have you read, whatever your race is, if you think that race is better than another race, then you are a racist. Doesn't matter what your color is. Adam and he said, he said and when he was created, Allah subhanho wa Taala he gave the order to all the angels it he believes was with them. So he was not an angel. We know the story long story. So he told them to bow down as a sign of respect for Surya do Illa abilities. They

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all made sudo except for Emily's, when he was asked the question, ma ma ma Naka alert su there is a moto. What is the reason why you did not make sujood as you were commanded? He said and a higher middle. So look at this statement here. I am better than him. So the racist person is someone who has Kibriya in him, yes.

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But also he or she believes that they are better than the other person X, Y and Z. That is why we cannot disassociate cable and and racism. Islam had addressed this many many many years ago more than 1400 years ago. When Allah azza wa jal it tells us

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yeah, you have nurse in Santa Ana comin Decker in water, or jalna come sure Obama Papa Isla de de feu in NACA Rama Kuma in the light in Allah howdy masabi. It is very clear in Surah to read when Allah Azza wa Jalla. He says, Yeah, you have less. And this is an advocacy that goes to all mankind. It doesn't just go to Muslims, or non Muslims or white or black. It goes to everybody all together. It didn't say yeah, you had Latina ama No, it didn't say yeah, you will catch he wrote, he say, yeah, you had NASA, all mankind. So all mankind, included in this verse, Allah is reminding us that indeed, He created us from one male and one female, and he made us into many nations and many

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tribes. And Allah Azza wa Jalla is the one who did that. And he said, the reason why I made you in many nations and many tribes so that you may know each other so that you may recognize each other and value the differences that you see in each other and be able to work together. But the reality of the matter. In conclusion, he's saying that the best amongst you are the one who's the best in piety in Tukwila. This is how we determine who's better than others, but not based on the color of our skin. This is a Go ahead. Do you see just some

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of them located? We're trackways in a place where no one can see you know,

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taqwa hoonah

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nobody can, you know, Judge

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no one else and answer panel I recall this.

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This Hadith,

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I believe is highly memorable Harry kuttabul recaulk. The, the Prophet sallallahu wasallam was sitting down next to him as a companion.

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A very good looking

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man riding a horse passed by them, for he looked at the companion sitting next to him.

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And he said metaphilosophy had, what do you think about this man?

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called Ella Salalah. He said almost

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noble man had a heart.

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If he speaks that people will listen to him.

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If he intercede on behalf of somebody, his intercession will be accepted. And if he goes to propose to a woman, for sure, he will get her. The Guardian will grant him the marriage and so the prophet SAW Selim did not say anything A while later another man but this time is cool. No matter if he had you, no matter who he had

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Salama, this is poor Muslim, this is, you know,

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if he speaks, no one is gonna listen to him if He intercedes his intercession is not going to be accepted. Granted, and if he if he's, he proposes he's not going to be given because the property had how you mean we'll have the Manhattan Sopranos. You know this one in the sight of Allah is better than Earth. Filled with the

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First time, home, nurse Yanina? Subhana, Allah Eonni shift. Mohammed is amazing how. And

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you know how this the three individuals were spoken the cradle. One of them actually was about this issue was that the mother who was breastfeeding her baby?

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Remember the, you know, loving modality.

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It's the same, the same approach. And Pamela, you know, so but,

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you know, I want to get your insight on this that some people are born into a racist society, a racist environment, like exactly how Americans look at Islam and Muslims Now islamophobes will call the number phobia, because they watch fox news they watch from the watch all these guys would be famous who study with Thai boss, and they don't like us because of what the year? Yes, yes. You know,

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even Islam built with that Sheikh Mohammed, when when Islam said that place a lie in between what do you have in your heart towards somebody and treating them?

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Well, I agree manakamana. And

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other and let

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me just and briefly, let me show you that the second clip here, and I want to tell the brothers, we're open to take your questions, if I can ask one of the brothers at least require Skype. So we can ask the shear.

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But let me present that second video.

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Prosecutors say officer Derrick Chavez

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in in, you know, reacting in this manner

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unjustified I mean, that's my opinion, what is your take on this tree? Yes. Unfortunately, what we have seen after this murder, we do understand, and we stand by those who are protesting peacefully, because this is an injustice that was done to a Mr. George Floyd. And it was an injustice that was done to every black person on the surface of this earth. So we have to stand up and voice our opinion, voice, our anger, and voice how we feel about the situation. But like I said before,

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two wrongs do not make a right. Absolutely, yes, because they have done something wrong. And we come back for you know, better than I do that Islam, Islam has given people the right to retaliate if, for example, somebody takes the life of another Muslim of another person, they have the right, you know, to take the life of the person who killed them. This is the source and this is justice in Islam. This is why Sharia brings the Justice like that. If you take the life on some somebody, your life should be taken. And this actually, it saves lives. Because the people who know I mentioned it in my football Friday, that if a person knows that if I kill an individual fish,

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therefore, killing would go down. As we see in America, every single TV channel you turn on, there is murders and it is every single day. So if we apply the Sharia, I think in my opinion, there would be as many killing as we see nowadays. Mm hmm. But in fairness, also, you know, this is brother or Baker, the majority of the people looking in this video, we're not black.

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And I think Dr. Taha Wait, we were talking to him minutes ago. He brought our attention to the fact that it could be orchestrated just to shift the attention away.

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We from the actual grind to another trying. So in fairness, but I do have a caller salamati obrigado

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mother Ismail, how are you doing from Indiana? This is our brothers made from Indiana. Mashallah brother is male.

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We have Mr. Mohammed here from Indiana as well. And I heard that your own workplace was

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actually looted.

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And also there was killing in your city last night. Do you want to enlighten us on if you have a question for the shift in Sharm

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El Sheikh Mohammed, how are you?

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Happy I'm doing good. How are you?

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I have a question about the protests that have been going on. Of course, a lot of innocent people, you know, their property has been vandalized. A lot of financial losses they incurred because of this. Whether this landscape of protests are Islam, that Islam allow us to come out on the road and protest? Or is it a peaceful way of protesting?

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Very good question. Very good question, Masha Allah. First of all, we, we sympathize. And we feel sorry, for the people, whether they are Muslim or not non Muslims, who have lost their businesses. We have seen it on the news. And I have close friends of mine in the city of Indianapolis, whom I spoke with on the phone today, including yourself that many people have lost their businesses completely. And these are some people, some some of the businesses that are lost, owned by black people. Some of the businesses that are lost are owned by Muslims, people who did not have anything to do with this murder. Or even even worse, people who right now they are supporting the protesters,

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people who were very infuriated, who are very angry about the killing of Mr. George Floyd. These are the people who now are suffering from this injustice. That is why I mentioned in the beginning, what duck will fit in that and love to see when the Latina woman come casa. Indeed, we have to always worry in fear, a fitna that when it starts when it begins, it will encompass even those who have nothing to do with it. So the people who are losing their businesses in malls and other places, they are losing their stores. They have nothing to do with this this murder. They had nothing to do with this killing, but now they're suffering from it. So the source is actually injustice, the injustice

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that we find in the system. It is now time that we stand up together. white, black, yellow Muslim, non us Muslim, everybody. I truly believe 2020 2020 is the year of change. It is the year that real change would come there. Is this something there's some hype that is hidden behind this 2020 we saw with the Coronavirus, we saw other things. Now we see the ratio.

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So I think 2020 before it's over, we'll see this new world order that people have been talking about something is looming large, we have to be careful and watch out. Regarding your question. As far as the protesting. It is very true, that during the time of the Prophet sallallahu wasallam, there was a time when the Muslims, they were in. They were they were hidden. They were hiding, teaching, learning from the process of them doing everything, but they were not out in public. But the time came when amagno hapa when he became the 40th Muslim, he gave them courage and they came out they came out saying La Ilaha Illa go towards the Kaaba, this is can be recognized as a form of protest,

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but we did not see the Muslims burning down buildings, we did not see the Muslims throwing stones.

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Or else the process alone would have stopped them. They went on the streets saying La ilaha illAllah inviting people to the truth to the heart, being Sadhguru and being people who have patience. So we remind the people, whether they're Muslim, or non Muslim, and if you allow me Solomonic, we're able to get

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a handle on name and Where are you calling from please?

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I'm calling from Denver, Melanie

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Brahimi. Do you have a question for Mr. Mohammed?

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Yeah, I have a question for

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Go ahead.

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Go ahead. rahima.

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Hello, yeah, but a Hema asked.

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ask you a question.

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happen to see some things that in the month that I'm asking you questions

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are not an Arabic speaker

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hurt one,

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but we're heading to the metro area.

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But at a certain point, he said, even the Africans are giving money. So why don't you guys

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and I want to know your position about that. Even the Africans

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Alright, jack Hello, hello.

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I guess you know the problem that we we have in our massage with Mr. Mohamed about you know, if we're talking about racial issues in the broader sense in the larger community, but I even was talking to Dr. Dyer wait just before you and we said that in our own massage it we do have race and racial even

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Brahim as saying some imams may actually be doing that. So how can we treat that? I guess? Hon. Allah. I heard his question. That is unfortunate. It is quite a belittling a statement. When you say that even Africans getting such and such, why don't you get that means that the person who is making that statement, May Allah forgive him is that is considering Africans, so low of a people that they should not be getting that money, whatever money he is talking about. It is unfortunate to notice that we see racism, not only on a global point of view, but also within our own ranks within our own massages. I personally can speak of that, because we have experience within our lifetime of being

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Imam. That's a very few people, very few handful of people. And this is something I always like to clarify, lay Susa, no mean, Peter, Martin, Paul, EMA, and this is a statement that we should broaden in every aspect of our life, that not all people are the same. I really dislike it. When when some people think all white people are racist, or are racist or Africans are racist, the racism is everywhere. And I mentioned it, we should not paint everyone with the same brush. There are some who are racist, and I think in the depths of my heart, that it is a very small minority of people that are racist. So in this case, we have experienced very few people who would not want to pray behind

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an Imam only because he's black people have made that statement. I am very sorry, I can pray behind him because he's black. I've actually personally heard that statement from someone. So we see that within our own ranks, but it will not surprise me when we see the Hadith regarding the situation with a Buddha and Dylan Ivanova these are the companion app with her partner he's one of the greatest companions and he made a mistake because could we even Adam hapa Ohio hopped a little overboard and when he talked to the doll and told him You son of a black woman, and the dealer was very upset with this statement went to the processor and processor limb summoned I was there and

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told him with this statement you still have some some leftover some some

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the J Do you know with that? But look at the the grander the greatness of this man. He laid his face down on the dirt until balaclava put your foot on my on my face when I say this is not so Pinilla and look at the end sort of data this this great man how how we believe in Allah we believe in the in the Quran when you say is it the ability here? for either lady bayonet obey you know who I don't know where to go and know what do you mean? Anytime somebody does something bad to you, our response should be with something good. So we know if the robber he kissed his forehead and said this face is not to be stepped on but to be kissed. Look at look at the insert of the lab. So we as Muslims,

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number one as black people, if we want to learn from the cedar if you want to learn from the example of the process Allah in the example of the Sahaba we should not be burning down

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The malls, we should not be done burning down places or killing more, because they're there things in Islam in the Sharia, we have to consider that you have the right, you know, to retaliate equally, you know, we have the right enough to be innocent. When you When a soul is taken, a soul must be taken when an eye is poked, and I can be poked when he is got an ear and not was announced, but somebody cannot come in cut your ear, you say now I'm gonna cut your nose, I'll cut your lips, I'll cut your throat, cut your lips. Now you have overdone it. And that is what we are seeing today, unfortunately, in our cities, and we're calling people to come down, we're calling people to come

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back to reality, and fit and stand up together and face this injustice and try to remove it the best way we can. But the best way is not with violence. We also have Mr. Mohammed, we, you know, we have to realize also that there are some people who actually don't know, that concept of racism.

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I take myself for example, I I never. I mean, we live in a community with everybody is almost. So when you come to America, you may end up saying things

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like, you know, it's a racial term or a racial statement.

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But in reality, it was not meant to be ratio. So, I mean, addressing brother Ibrahim's, you know, question, what should you do as a community member, like, you know, to give that Imam the benefit of the doubt, because he talked about our local area here, it could be me or it could be, you know,

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some other local Imam here. What Ibrahim should do to treat this issue? Like, because it seemed like he he's he's talking about a certain incident? Yes. That any Imam did say. So we advise him to go and talk to the Imam in person. Right? Would you agree to that? And I agree totally. And let's, and if let's remember, conception is his reality, right? When when you stand up on the member, you have to be very, very careful. What do you are saying? Alhamdulillah. We have been doing this for 20 years in the United States comes with experience. Sometimes. Sometimes you like the experience and just you know, suddenly, ma'am, yeah, we have to, to open the line of communication. This is very

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important. And to panela one of the beautiful things that we implemented here in our machine, machine, here in Indianapolis, brother is Marilla will tell you a couple of years ago, we studied a iftaar competition between different nations and tribes. When you come to Yes, yeah. When you come to our mercy, we have a gymnasium where kids play in the cafeteria is a multipurpose room, and you see all the flags around the world, all the flags are posted there. So anybody who comes here, they feel comfortable. This is home because my flag is here. So I'm represented Not only that, so in Ramadan, what we do every single night and mainly a Friday, Saturday, Sunday on the weekend. We will

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say that today is for example we say it is an Egyptian night, tomorrow at Saudi night tomorrow it is American. Mm hmm. Let's put this in perspective. Yes, the prophets Allah Allah Allah send a mystic for example.

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the digging of the trench when the Prophet sallallahu Sallam wanted to break the community into groups to execute the task of TIG of digging the trench he actually

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identified them by their mohabbatein unsolved and we know that Sal man has a story of so here is one when it comes to constructive work

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to positive approach there is nothing wrong with you know saying a word that's in a gallery where the Egyptian yes it's okay. You know, it's fine. But But let's let's go back to the incident. Yeah, you're Latina mo de la to La Habra, la Jamie on one of our who that incident

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when we know that the Prophet sallallahu wasallam police to fighting tribes in Medina, Laos and others together and they don't the answer. And one of the people who used to trigger the heat and because they used to fight one another for years. He came and he started reminding

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them with the with the past and, and they started fighting away. Yeah the lousier Hassan and he is the Prophet said, No, this is Jay Hillier. So when race and color and language, the context of you having a spa or having

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competition and all of that that's, that's in a constructive way. But when it's used in a destructive manner to divide us and break us, we shouldn't be doing it.

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We should not be I do agree. In this case, it's it's a healthy competition. And it goes along with the verse in the Quran, Lita rafu, so they know each other. Because, let's say here, for example, we have a big Nigerian community in this much in a big Pakistani community, a big Niger community. These are communities, we come together pray every single day. Unfortunately, before this iftaar competition, people would pray and leave and didn't even know each other. No, but when we when we implemented this, this competition, healthy and beautiful. Let's say when we say today is Nigerian night, and people came the Nigerian brothers and sisters would they would present the culture, not

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just the food, they will come with their flags, the dress code the culture, and they will and I told them you have to meet another person from a different nationality, different languages, sit with them, share the meal with them, talk to them. And people started to get to know each other in the machine love each other. In all the time I make jokes about the Nigerian brothers or Pakistani brother and its harmony, its love and injustice and fairness in our community here at the machine. That is why you been like sable, that example of the process Allah there is nothing wrong with identifying all the groups. But at the end of the day, we have to come together with a slogan Lita

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food in the economical Mandela here. No, does that Hello, Hello, Mr. Mohammed, Can you shed some light on on, you know, stereotyping? Or, you know, like, branding our whole

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you know, like we can say all white

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police officers are racist. Now we can see that it's it's,

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I don't know, I have pleaded or dealt with decent white police officers and what is your take on this shift and that we shouldn't brand a whole lot because they do this to us Muslims. I mean, all Muslims are bad, you know, because of a handful.

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What is your take on this? Exactly, exactly. You made a very good point. Because of the way we have been treated unfairly and unjustly as Muslims. When they see a terrorist attack somewhere here and there, a bomb exploded here. Then they start saying all Muslims are terrorists, because we have been victim of that we should not victimize other people of that because we know how it feels. It is very long. to to to paint everyone with the same brush. Like you said, even here in our community. We we deal and we continue to deal with the Indianapolis police department. Wonderful. We have wonderful friends, wonderful brothers. Some of them are Muslims, they come pray with us and see Subhanallah

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see that every single day when we have celestial Juma on when we have a big gathering, police officers are actually patrolling our machine and helping us to protect and when some of the looting was happening, some of the police officers, one of the brothers told me came here, maybe three 4am in the morning, just protecting making sure the machine is safe. So in some handler, these are police officers, sometimes they're white, sometimes they black and Muslim or non Muslim. They are protecting us they These are some who are respecting the vow to serve and to protect the community and they've serving and protecting Muslims and non Muslim. So definitely, we should not put a

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stereotype and say that all police officers or white officers are racist or dig a missile and we cannot say that we have to speak the truth all the time. We stand by those police officers who are serving and protecting and we have we are praying for them. And we're standing by by them we are supporting them and will always speak the truth when it comes to what we are seeing with our lives. We have sharjeel Mr. Mohammed from London.

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He's asking a question I will read it to you. I'm not sure if you can read the comments on Facebook but here it is. What advice would you give to a brother marrying outside the culture?

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How should he balance obey

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In his parents and pursuing a sister outside, first of all, do you support marriage outside of your culture? I personally don't advise to do it. I you know, I just to show you my my position is I always say that okay, the higher umbrella is the religion, the Prophet told us look at the religion. Yes. But next go into your cultural go into. I guess I don't want to dictate your opinion here. So what is your take on interracial marriages in Islam? Okay.

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First of all, whatever the whatever Islam halala ties is we have to harlot eyes, whatever Islam aromatize, we have to dramatize. So when it comes to a racial marriage, intercultural marriage, Islam says it's okay, then we have to say it's okay. When it comes to a personal point of view, when it comes to a personal point of view, I personally would not advise it, because we have seen many bad experiences many, many bad experiences, because culture is something very important and very close to the heart of the individual. I may be Senegalese and may be married to somebody from a different culture. And sometimes I've seen it and I'll give you a very funny example. Actually, a

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couple that I counseled here in my office.

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The brother is African, and the sister is is a Caucasian American Muslim. I think something happened there was an occasion which I don't recall. And the brother who's not used to buy flowers for the wife and stuff like that. In Africa, we don't do that you don't go to buy flowers anyway.

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Yeah, so so the brother went and bought flowers, a big bouquet of we needed bring them fish from the market.

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But Allahu Akbar

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so so so listen to this, the brother bought a big expensive bouquet of flowers. Unfortunately, it was flower that we use for funerals, and he had no idea he gave it to the wife

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this one comes to my office and tells me that he wishes me death. Now look, even when I told you I told you he didn't like me he went now he's buying me flowers for funerals. So he wants me to die. I see some

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cultural divide. cultural divide, gosh, you're different. So so when you put that in an example like that, and there are many many, many of them I think the best the best approach in life is to stay in your scope those that share the same views with you the same religion the same culture if you marry them insha Allah tala you might be facing less trouble less less problems in your marriage that is my advice on that but don't compromise a religious one over a racial cultural one in my in my opinion still if there is a devout Muslim, she

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you know, I like I was doing my show and I'm sorry I'm gonna drag you into this but I do not named any

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buddy but the subject is really irrelevant now.

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A very known brother in our

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Muslim community here in the US.

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He's talking about the huddled in Islam being scare tactic.

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They were not meant to be executed.

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We're talking about the Hadoop like the flooding and you know, and

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what is what is your take on this without naming please, I kindly ask.

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Just just addressing the issue itself without addressing any we make that for our brother. Yeah. And we, your May Allah guide us all and me him and and keep us on the straight path. And that's our you know, our our approach was what

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how do you how do you, especially when when, you know, he refers to the

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you know, the profit areas, the profit solar cell, I'm saying that best of mankind is my generation, then those who followed them, then those who followed them, he actually failed to that time to be mid evil time. And enormous evil time is really a term which is connected to Europe and dark age. So associating the term medieval time with with the best of the oma is an analog. I'm not sure if you came across that clip or not, but no, not. So just in general. let's address the issue.

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Have Allah revealed because that's what he's propagating. Allah has revealed the penal code in Syria

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as a scare tactic, it was not meant to be implemented. How do you respond to something like that?

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The way we respond to that is that it is true. It was revealed as a warning. But also, we have clear evidence and examples when it was executed during the time of the Prophet sallallahu wasallam. And he's the best of mankind. And whatever he did was the best he would not have done it, if it was not best for mankind. It's a warning. And what I mean by that term, is that when Allah subhanho wa Taala makes it clear in the Quran, that if you kill somebody, your life will be taken. This will scare many people. And maybe that's where he's talking about. It will scare many people from killing from committing murders, because when you know that, if I kill, they're going to kill me, if I steal, if

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this officer knew that there is an established system.

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And taking the life of George Floyd would cost him his life, his life, that's what is meant by if he knows that there is an execution of that law. Yes, you will be then scared that yes, yes. If there is a deliberation out there, should we executed or should we not? It was not meant to be executed? Then what is the point? What is the scare tactic here, but there there we have to point out the the lack of justice or the fairness of the system that we live in, because what this officer did, clearly, you know, with all the videos that we have seen, if this was done by a black man, a black police officer, he would have been arrested in the next five seconds. So we have to also admit that

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there is injustice, there's unfairness in the way that the criminal system is treating the black people in the way it is treating the white people that also need to be pointed out Absolutely.

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Also shift the you know, I I watched that video right before, but I want to show to you how it is, you know, terrible and we had to cover up the lady, but just watch this for a minute.

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stop, please don't come close to me.

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Please don't.

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Please don't come close.

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Please, please call the cops please call the cops.

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African American man.

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My wife, please tell them whatever you like.

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Excuse me.

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Okay, so that's the message here is the stereotyping African American man, you know, so the police are is already set to

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you know affection towards

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an individual like that. What What is your How can we treat that in our society in our American community?

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first of all, I think I saw that clip. It's very unfortunate. When we have a a media that is biased, that is portraying one group of individual as criminals as as as the thieves as murderers and this is what we are facing and we are in a system that is pretty much built up to to put

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down into oppress the black people. When you see nowadays that many black people, they cannot

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possess a gun legally, or they cannot have a decent job. Because in their youth in the young age, maybe they had a joint of marijuana or something, and it became a felony. And with a felony, there's so many doors that are shut down for you. If I want to get a job, I have a felony, you can't get discharged. If I want to have a house in a nice neighborhood. Well, you had a felony you can live here. You know, you cannot do so many things that, you know, with your criminal background for a small thing, a small mistake that and this shows again, the perfection in the beauty of Islam. Islam does not hold somebody accountable for something they did forever for the rest of their life. Once

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you make Toba the sin that you committed in the past, it is as if you never committed the sin. This is what we learn in Islam. So therefore, the system here is unforgiving. Mainly towards the black people. The system is unfair, and just an unforgiving it was it was meant to oppress black people to put them down. All these jails and prisons that we see that are built in they built only to have the black people fill them up. And that's what we are seeing today.

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That's such a statement. We we it is it is very painful, very hurtful. But again, my message to my community, especially the youth, how do you I have a big school here with about 300 students, many of them from African parents, and I tell them, the most important weapon that you need in your life is knowledge. Knowledge is power. Knowledge is power. So I tell them, I don't want you just to memorize the Quran, just memorize their Hadees. But I want you to go to school, I encouraged them, you have to finish your high school, finish your college, get a diploma, get a degree. I have young men and young boys and girls Alhamdulillah they go to school, to be doctors going to school to be

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lawyers. In a few years, they will graduate become lawyers. This is this is how we need to stand up for ourselves as black people. We cannot just talk and talk and complain and complain. And I say sometimes why and why? We have to put all that into action stand up for ourselves. How do we stand up for ourselves is to gain the knowledge, the Islamic knowledge gained the work the knowledge, if you have the knowledge, you have the education, you get the degrees, you can stand and keep your head high. Nobody will disrespect you. If you are an educated man. If you know your rights, you are educated. You don't get involved in drugs, you don't get involved in murders in crimes or anything.

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You will be respected young black men in America. And that should be our call as leaders call our youth to be educated call our us to be respected so they can walk the streets holding their heads they have that is my beautiful, beautiful, very, very, very important, Mr. Mohammed for sure. Mr. Mohammed a couple of minutes we have here and there's like a locker and for taking the time and and out of your busy schedule. I know you're a busy man.

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I really would like the brothers to to first of all, try to listen to your football from last Friday. I listened to it. And I enjoyed listening to it.

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Because it was right on on topic. And

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maybe you can let them know how can they watch it.

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But let me take this cooler. And then I have a final question on something that you mentioned in that football. salaam aleikum. Wa barakato.

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She may are calling from Indiana. Yes, we would

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allow her to lie Have you

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is that your wife is my wife.

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All right.

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Just wanted to add something. So if we can say that it's really hard in America to the person for when you're Muslim, it's hard. You have to work hard. And when you go outside your comfort zone, let's say and then you also blood. So it's hard. And at the same time, even though you tried to have your education, or try to be good, good in all good manners. The thing is, once you're in the work field or in the school field, it looks like you always have to work harder and harder and harder. So we were just wondering how long we were going to go on with it. Coming from slavery all the way to colonialism. And then now today, we're just wondering, okay, now our future generation, you're going

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to have children. We're just going to look is it only to the black community that we have to talk about? Is it only to the Muslim community

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We have to talk about or is it everybody in a nutshell Now today we're talking about globalization and then Phil I know it's good to have you know different your your differences but at the same time when we come together we should be blending together and every everything should be just you know just in you know in peaceful so I don't know how we will be just as EU leaders who will address that but not only to a certain group of people but I guess everybody should be in it Muslim non Muslim black white

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all kinds of categories if anything

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Hello my

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dear sister I guess that's your wife's question. So you have exclusive right to answer I will I will let you enter that question and I'll do my best when I go home inshallah. Unlimited question do you share? Well, I I really believe that

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we are going through

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you know,

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a very difficult time. And the COVID-19 did not make it any better.

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I think this

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Floyd, murder, I call it murder. Yes, it is. I don't know. Who had the courage and the guts.

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to videotape all this.

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A man who was dying for 10 minutes without under are full guys out there who are supposed to protect this guy.

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This man, George Floyd,

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standing out Dean and they are not doing anything about it.

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There is somebody who was videotaping it.

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I said this earlier if there are million books written to describe this, it can you know, do justice to it.

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I think this is a wake up call.

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You know to racist from all races, including Egyptians including Arabs. Wake up, wake up. We're all equal in the sight of Allah subhana wa Tada.

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it is actually a sign of Allah His

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power. Might woman a TV Hello YT when Ali was delightful, Elsener Sina tiku Wel, l and

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imagine and similar to Roman law says that of the signs which can lead you to Allah that the creation of the heavens and the earth and the different languages and the different colors you have. It's a sign of allies might and

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I think we are as Muslims have the ideal solution to race and racism.

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And and, and that's a statement which Malik Shabazz and I think I heard you referring to this in your football? Yes. He said Islam has a solution because he he,

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Malcolm X

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went to perform had at the peak almost of, of slavery and racism in America. And he saw all those people doing tours around the Kaaba,

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you know, and so we have the solution.

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We need to understand this Islam has the solution to what America and the world is suffering from. But unfortunately, very few imams very few rectifiers are talking about it a minute ago, I was talking about a brother You know, who was trying to make the non Muslims happy about you know, Islam and comfortable I'm sure he's that's what he's trying to do. That's not what they want to hear. You know, no, explained to them how these four Dude, this, the Penal Code of Islam is to be done. There is a protocol, individuals cannot do it. You have to prove the person guilty in a court. You have to have witnesses. Yeah, talk about that. Talk about how it's done. But don't don't don't don't say no.

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You know,

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Mara alma sumiya, a woman

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who stole

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Sam, I believe came to, to intercede. And we know when when when the head goes to the Amir's to the to the judge, it's over. You know, it's over. And Osama is the son of Xavier and ignored him.

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And he said, attach files, he had been a lot he by a lot of fault him, imagine this if Fatima, the daughter of Mohammed, Americanism steals Muhammad Sallallahu wasallam, the property left to say that Mohammed Salallahu alaihe salam will cut out for stealing.

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You know, I think this is the you know, that the Sharia of Islam came to treat the shortcomings of people. And

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I think, Mr. Mohammed, the world is hitting into an intercession intersection, where the people will say, you know, we gotta we gotta use Islam, we will

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say no, D him. Tina, Phil. P, Wolfie fusi him had a baby and I left home. And

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while I had, that's what I feel the world is going to. When we spoke, I'm sure you spoke about this too, when we spoke about the COVID-19 and how Islam

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introduced the quarantine system, the hygiene system, and here it is alive showing the world that this because this is the allies, the creator, and we are the created. If we do not implement his divine system, there will be a defect somewhere, somewhere. And we saw that effect in that video.

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So to answer your your your spouse or your wife's question, we got to stand up for this religion. Yes, we got to tell the people what it is exactly. We don't shy away we don't compromise. Never Never. But do it in a kind nice way. Do it in a peaceful way in a peaceful manner. You know, in a way, hopefully, but you can compromise and I think that's the answer. I don't want to keep you here. I'm sure you have other things. But I towards the end of your whole point. You spoke about guns and you're actually encouraged. You know me and then at from the deen show, you probably should visit him sometimes.

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You know, we're talking about that. And because at the beginning of the COVID-19, the sale of he actually showed this on his show didn't show there was a spike on

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on the sale of guns in America

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at the very beginning of COVID-19 that the the people notice that a lot of people are lining up in front of gun stores buying guns. So that culture of guns and you know, and he thinks actually he actually condones what you said, as long as you use the protocol of you know, the law that you can own a gun, you have to follow the procedure of the policy. It is illegal Liam,

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what are you trying to say in this context? Okay, in that context, I'm glad you gave me the chance to explain myself, if you remember in the hood, but I did mention a situation that happened on the night of aid

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on Sunday night. One of our massages here in Indianapolis, which is just about five minutes away from Michigan Hopkins. As they were praying, I think Salah to the mother he was allowed to the Isha it was only five people in there. Someone drove past the front of the machine which is literally on the street on the main street and actually shot four bullets through the window while they were praying. One of the brothers that I know who called me personally told me that one of the bullets actually passed his his leg maybe two feet away from him.

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So that is why I was saying give given the situation what happened in New Zealand. What happened in many massages around the world where people not see or somebody who doesn't like Islam, walks in with a semi automatic rifle and kills many Muslims while they are praying. In that context, I was saying that we also have the right to defend ourselves. We should not be sitting and I call it like a naked egg. You have no protection. You just sit there anybody walks in. Not even with a gun even with a knife can can do some damage. We have to take our fate of fate in our into our own hands.

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And learn how to protect ourselves legally that's what I'm so there are certain situations where you know self defense is

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that's what you meant so can you please Mr. Mohammed let people know how can they get in touch with you and how they can they listen to pass and I really enjoyed I have to say enjoyed listening to it and lepidium lightning because you know when I was introduced to you I thought about visiting some of your hotels. So can you

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let the brothers and the sisters How can they get part of Futurama without unfinished nickel shell and before I get to that I want to extend an invitation to you to come visit our much much it'll happen Indianapolis maybe be here Friday Saturday Sunday not only to give a hug but but also spend a weekend with us to do some lectures would be very honored to have you my honor. inshallah, I will tell you about that and we'll set it up as soon as possible.

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To get in touch with me. First of all, we have a website, which is a hawk Foundation, that net Hawk foundation that net anybody who goes there can view all my hood birds and mainly to follow me live. It's on Facebook, Mr. Mohammed NJMUH a an ad in the last name is ND I A ye Mohammed, Mohammed nj on Facebook. You can watch me live in Charlottetown Kazakh a lot here Mr. Mohammed and while I am very happy to meet you, I love you for the sake of Allah. May Allah Subhana Allah, Allah Subhana Allah unite our hearts and and he was steadfast the honorable alameen And may Allah Subhana Allah Allah make us of benefit to our community in America and our Muslim community as well inshallah

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happy to have you on Ask him Corinne live show and I look forward to having you again in Sharla and hopefully you can also

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come and visit us here in Colorado we have an also an invitation back to you daily Java

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It is an honor to share this plateau with the circle last year remember how much

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does that add on brothers and sisters in Islam I that's the best way to close our show. We'll see you tomorrow in sha Allah six o'clock with the light belief series as salaam alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh

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