Ismail Kamdar – Proofs for the existence of Allah

Ismail Kamdar
AI: Summary © The segment discusses the importance of proving to oneself if God exists, including the negative views of the church and the church's history. It emphasizes the need for science and open communication to avoid confusion and Andersenism. The segment also touches on the complexity of the world and the importance of experiencing the experience of human nature and human experience to prove the existence of God. The segment also touches on the negative impact of digital religion and the importance of finding a diverse level of reach for Muslims.
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this region

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not just accepting our knees, we are

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sure that it will be seen.

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So, the inshallah going to continue with our series on

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contemporary theological topics

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and today's topic is particular branches.

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Last week, we discuss the reasons why

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some young people may leave Islam

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and the number one topic that we raise is can you prove to me the college's

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by this is a question that has become very common amongst people who are high school, they want to know, prove approve for them, that God exists. And so, today inshallah we will tackle this subject, we will be tackling a variety of perspective. Just to give you an idea of

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the perspective we are taking with this, we have,

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we have taken our information for a variety of different sources. Number one, they are the research papers by your institute, which I didn't send out on the WhatsApp groups, right, so the research papers on proofs that exist

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to them, and the other one.

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And the other main source for today's discussion is this wonderful book by Dr. Schwartz's called the divine reality, which is essentially an Islamic response. I highly recommend everybody, one of the best books written in the past five years. So highly recommended, and this is the prime minister of the petitioner.

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So to begin,

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when someone comes to you with this question, the question of prove to me that Allah exists prove to me that we have to understand that they are coming from a specific backup, right? Because this question is itself a natural is not a natural question for the bulk of human history. Most people have never asked for proof that God exists. It's a given. Right? It's a given. It's something that's known by necessity known by nature, something that's within the heart and soul of every human being. So when someone asked this question, in general, it is because they have gone through certain life experience experiences that have led.

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And we discuss these life experiences. But just to recap, some of them, number one, trauma, right, particularly, particularly if they raise the wrong understanding.

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Now, this specific point, occurs more often in Christian communities.

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But it does happen.

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So what happens is, sometimes parents raise their children with the idea that if you obey God, if you love God,

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right, the reason for this idea that God is most loving, and if you obey Him, your life is said, but you will everyone. Now, okay, this idea is

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not that.

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But some Muslims do have this idea. So what happens when a child grows up thinking that if I obey God, wherever I want to happen, as soon as something bad happens, they start doubting the existence? How can

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I show so really often, this doubt comes from trauma comes from a negative lived experience, example mobile video coming out some white DVDs, they'll say something like my sister died when she was 16 years old.

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So it's nothing to do with philosophy, or science or rationality to do withdrawal. Right? So many cases, have any rational discussion about the existence of Allah is not going to work on the person that person counseling. They need to get over the trauma first before they get pretty over there.

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The second reason why some people may this believe in God, elements.

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And this is the group that's hardest to get. When it comes to doubt. We know that those who are rejection of this job are the ones who are not going to accept the data even if the truth is you're an average.

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And they still exist, that it may be people today

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just out of sheer arrogance they don't want.

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And that group of people no matter what you tell them, they're not going to be. Right. But that is the group that exists.

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It's cultural pressure from modern society. So we discussed this last week, that one society is all about being skeptical, skeptical about God, about religion, about morality, about all these things. So a young person growing up in this culture, going to universities, watching these movies, playing these video games, they are absorbing this culture, and there's no strong foundation to commentate. You're going to ask these questions these questions.

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Number four, is rebelliousness. So, sometimes, a child in rebelling against appearance will be disgusted by that a child's primary understanding of who is called

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the appearance and kind of versatile imagined body behind us, and the parents are harsh and violent imagine.

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And so parenting plays a really important role in how a child views the relationship between the two very often where the child rebels against

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Now, the final point I did not discuss, this is the

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point separately, going to require our discussion, but one of the main reasons why atheism has spread in the past 100 years. What because of church separation of science,

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either. If you compare the history of the Muslim world, to the history of the Christian world, when Muslims embrace the religion and practice the religion, and when the Muslims were staunch in the religion,

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at that point, Muslims experience a golden age, Muslims experience a, a time we give it driving in science and you

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look at scientific

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features was because the church will have separate science, the science that threaten them, you need

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to the only way that you're able to get out of the Dark Ages was to simply try

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to enter a field of security to start looking down upon religion, rejecting religion, and definitely checked. And after the group does the update. Now the problem many of us have

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is amazing. Muslims don't know whose history they only know.

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The Western world and they assume the history the same, and they say the Western world tried to because they rejected religion. In secular objective, we have to do the same. This is one thing and it comes back to teach our children properties most they don't even know about.

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So this is a very important point of discussion about this key major lecture. But important understand, atheism was always a minority to be a gradual minority for the industry.

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You would count the mambo ages Asian community

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it's only the past 100 years with the rise of secular

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religion in the Christian countries, that atheism became the alternative. Because you have to understand people growing up in that environment by yourself.

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Growing up in a environment where your religion has suppressed everything. So movements rights, know the rights of different races.

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You know, economic science, all of this was suppressed by religion. So you end up not just eating your religion, but because you assume that all religions are the same. And this is why you notice lots of people journey in life will be starting at the Christian becoming an atheist. And eventually

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because at that point, we go from Christian atheists, making the speaking up

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is only lead to enlightenment incompetence.

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So we can help people skip the step by being more open with our open TGD subjects.

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So the information we're going to share today will help you get two types of scenarios, number one, when doing

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and number two when dealing with young Muslims.

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And we have to understand that different people have different ways to get to. We don't want to look at things from what we look at many different ways. So you can choose the best tool for each person.

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and knowing which is the best tool to deal

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with wisdom, which gives us every experience. Now, the first mistake will be power, or any type of debate in conversation is that we are very quick to assume that the other person's question, right?

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And when the atheists non income someone

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that when it comes to atheists

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and if you're, if you're to ask them,

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What can I do to get you to believe in God? What can they do have one of two responses, the first response would be, prove to me scientifically that onyx, by this is the first response to me scientifically that

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this is a response, I'll only believe in God.

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Right? So a science be a particle. Now, both of these are wrong approaches. If you are going to accept the premise, then you are setting yourself up. Why? Because

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the cont the topic of God's existence is not a side issue. It's not a scientific issue.

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It's nothing to do with science. You see the problem. One of the problems we have today, many young people is that they have this misunderstanding of science being

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the be all of knowledge is that everything, science, integrity, science can never be wrong. Everything has to be proven scientific.

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But the reality is science is one of many fields of human knowledge. And just like every other field of human knowledge is developing and growing and changing all the time. The things that scientists believed in 10 years ago do

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many of the things we learned assigned to be passed in school, and now proved to be false. Science is a human effort that's always important. Furthermore, science is the study of this is the study of this world. Study of physical needs. You can not study the human soul to science, you cannot study

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the existence of angels of science, you cannot study God through science. But one of the mistakes that Muslim made in the Dow is they assume that you have to prove the existence of God scientific. I'm saying that this premacy work. We don't have to prove it. scientific inquiry is not a topic of science.

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I gravity through scientific, that's a scientific issue. Allah exists outside of the universe.

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Today is no scientific week study something.

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So science is not the right approach.

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The second is they will say that I only believe in God, if I see myself or hear him talk like he told me myself, right? I was I want to experience.

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this is usually just a cop. Because if you if you dig a bit deeper, you ask us, okay, if this had to happen, will you believe them? Most of the time, they will see no problem because

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I was or we had a

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meeting just to make an excuse.

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An interesting that one of my teachers told me that he was one of our teachers. And then he has told me he has including three, on which the Day of Judgment, Allah is asking why

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that was the case. After having the three over and over and over. We were still in meetings. Right to some people say they want to see this. They want to experience this, but Allah actually causes what happened was the operation of haka without being deployed, right but in Egypt,

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he said, we will only believe in you in the

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coming down your

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love of

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Allah says, even if you opened up for them, a gateway into the sky, and they began to a century, they will see our eyes the

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exact same response, the exact same response is

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the same that is it will only believe your Prophet with the sky opens up in support. Allah says that if that had to happen to distributors,

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and they say to me, people say that you will believe in God is him thinking they were just

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me. No, it will come to this a bit later that one of the primary

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experience is the experience of

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and for someone who has chosen not to see this vendor how many experiences there

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describing the product to guide different

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by meaning they have blind themselves, they don't want to see they don't want to use.

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It will make every excuse

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line different.

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So that group of people, it's really hard to reach into the village. And how do we reach? Well, we have to understand that not everyone out there, who is an atheist is, you know, insincere, or arrogant God people ages because they have to, for example, they grew up in his Christian hole. And that's the only religion.

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Right? Oh, they may be never heard of Islam. Or maybe they've heard of Islam, but not a correct description of yourself. Only Islam, they know about examples.

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So we have to at least present to people the correct and proper Aqeedah.

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So they can make an informed decision.

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Now, whether they accept that or not, that really depends on

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this sincerely, I someone who is here, we'll see a module to handle data existence, and we will

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believe in it, we only want to,

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and someone who is arrogant and refuses and doesn't want to be, even if they had to see danger of themselves.

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So, there are many different ways to go, by the end of the day, the sincerity of the other person.

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So let's look at some of the ways in which you can discuss this topic.

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So, we will go to this one over the details. But the first is the teleological argument, which is the proof from purpose, that everything that exists, has a purpose. So it can't have been the kind of come about by chance, it must have been created by a genius, who has an

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intelligence that created with a purpose, write another logical argument, which is when you created from nothing, or did you create yourself to this is a a logical exercise Allah made people that this is very interesting that the Quran takes to be the concept of the existence of Allah as, as the god the atheism is in addressing

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this topic as if you already believe in Allah, this is true.

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Right? So why because most people,

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most human beings throughout history, believed in a God, and the Quran was there to prove the

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right to the Quran is according to persons, and that is this one argument, which is when you create the conducting yourself, Allah gives him questions that will lead him to the rational.

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So this is the logical argument metric.

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The third one observational is the reality of

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the different models.

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Right? Go to the ages will tell you, we don't know where consciousness,

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consciousness I mean, the back, then we are able to have experience we are able to, to, to experience this world in a way that the rest of us have animals, like animals don't get together and have philosophical discussion.

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You don't have that kind of consciousness itself. I exist and why do I exist? Why am I here? And there's talk about it. Only human beings have this level of consciousness, where does it come from? Consciousness can come from nothing.

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If you go with the theory of evolution process, because if humans evolved to have consciousness, many other animals, well, where does consciousness come from? The only the only rational is that a conscious creator create the consciousness

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by the consciousness has to be a gift about so observing and thinking about the reality of consciousness another way to go about

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the fourth one, which you mentioned most times, is reflecting on nature. So very often the Quran was talking about our body always takes us back to reach. Allah tells us in the creation of the heavens, it is easy the science to take. Allah wants us to think about a creature

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that is where

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we have human experience. And we will talk about this idea of the zero point score.

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You will experience one of it

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we adjust no random deeds that involve other beings with no purpose,

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why do humans get so much inner peace and joy?

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Why do human beings actually become better people when they watch?

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Why does it actually have?

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It doesn't exist. And the other part of the experience packaging product.

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Another one, for example is

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that we see all around us the need for install.

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And when you get down to it, it is not relatively

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we have just evolved animals. And just like other animals, it no such thing as

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every concept we have a good and evil comes from religion, every concept, even the most secular states, the most incredibly laws or

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even the most secular,

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thou shalt not kill. What, what everything about it from an atheist perspective, is nobody is no morality, we are just animals. Why?

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Because it's really just not it's divine, and the human need for morality itself to exist. And finally, the main point of

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most of our time, is

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that it is natural to believe in Allah unnatural.

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It's been most of the time. So when someone brings you this talk, and they say truth to me, their wives, the best responses proved to be

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to me,

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because the majority of human beings throughout history,

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believe in God.

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And now you're coming along and see.

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Example coming and saying,

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walking over doesn't exist, right? Prove to me that

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we all know from experience

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is to be the

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right? Why? Because they they are, they have set their mind on something, and it blows my mind. So really, when something is as commonly known amongst humanity, as the creator, which is found in every culture, every religion in every major civilizations throughout history,

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the truth is on the one saving the truths on the new people coming about

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these ones to do. Because if they're saying God doesn't exist, then most of the things we do in this world, businesses, and most of human history, and all we can only be justified on the belief that God exists. So let's look at some of these arguments that the details are number one, in your logical argument, it is mentioned in the introduction, that the basic premise here is that the work will be diligent, proper spatial experience will feature all the Unity

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equity. So therefore, it must have been furniture designer, to create,

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as this is an argument shared by a Christian, right, that all of these religions be that the

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design of this world means you must have intelligent design. What's interesting is many of the people today who don't want to believe in religion, also have

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too many people. They don't want to believe in religion.

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But they still say I think

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I obviously want to be part of a video cable program in the matrix. But they will they will reject the idea of a creator, you just reject the idea of worshipping. And we'll discuss that next. Next.

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don't we separate but the point is,

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that anyone who studied this work will come to the conclusion that this world is so complex

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that it has to have intelligent design. And you just have to study the human body. We just study the way from your heart reveals itself, the way your brain works. All of this is a very complex mechanism, a very imprecise mechanism. This is

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this is one of the strongest proofs for the existence of a law that we wouldn't accept the idea that important.

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But the human body is a townhouse complex

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to help with.

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The second point is to reflect what am I

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the integration of the heavens and earth and the alternation of DNA idea signs for people, once again was

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exempt. Look at the word progress. Now one of the things you'll notice that people who tend to be more atheistic or Dominic's into come from more

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materialistic backgrounds, we don't really have an explanation, we find people who are connected to nature very clearly in the dispute, because they see is signs all around.

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If you are living on a farm, or if you are working, camping in forests, it mounted, you can't watch the signs.

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Instead, the low and majesty you feel when you see a lot of Asia makes you want to worship one.

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When you go out and you see the metaphysics of the mountain, or the emotions, or the pity of the animals, you feel a sense of appreciation.

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And this is one of the strongest ways to connect someone with the Creator, the young Muslim is beating down.

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He said, getting into a philosophical discussion with them, you can be he can make it into some elements, they can spend some time in danger. And that may be connected, but ready, then connect the future of the natural world. And we will

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feel a sense of awe for the training provided that we create.

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So this is important point when experiencing doubt on spin. You know someone who's experiencing law if they're just been tech teacher, because nature permits people to treat.

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What number three, and this is an issue.

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But I believe the most often, you see now the very awkward people bring up this topic. They either discuss gossipy or they discuss science, right when they have no debates. And they forget about what I believe is the most important and that is human nature and human experience, human experience in two levels, the collective experience of humanity, and people's individual experience. So individual experience, people who are close to Allah, people who have been practicing Islam throughout their life, at some point or the other, they have experienced the

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experiences to experience the

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experience experiences. And these things become for them the strongest evidence about love. And that's why you know, you won't find righteous people experiencing distance. Because the closer you want to Allah, the more experiences

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you experience the president of Egypt, you experience your Russia, Mr. Speaker for the beauty of Nigeria, which means it's happening and did not be too crazy for you to say,

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some of these experiences, we are never ever going to delegate.

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Because this is the experience that we build in awkward. Ignore the size of our doubt, we want to be the size of it, we will be much easier to talk in some of the

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articles. But this is really what needs to be created. And we have this on individual levels and we have this money globally. That humanity as a whole. every culture, every civilization has these experiences. Every cultural community has had interactions with the world of the asking, for example, given the concept of people being possessed by Jim, or demons, that happens in existence

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is not something only

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you can go to the most, you know, isolated place in the world, and they will still be dealing with a problem. You'll still be dealing with the problem. And this is a human collective experience. We just got to ignore that that happens. Like last year, I was visiting the local graveyard and literally at the entrance to the shower holding the fire trying to get

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in there. But we have 6 billion people from

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experience. So when

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I asked him Have you ever experienced something

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that you can't explain

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and 99% of it Yes, I did it so goes all the way about having accidents and how that will never happen. Below all we had a dream that came true

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this thing is only outside the realm of science in the world of the unseen exists.

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And in many of the people who are going to be stoppable extinct. One of my old teachers, in his early 20s was Egypt. And he told me, he was convinced intellectually about Islam. But he didn't accept Islam initially.

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And then why in that state, he had to be added.

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And that was the moment he realized, yes.

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And then that teacher, my own mother, had a similar experience that for the next 20 years, he will try to publish other new stuff. And she was a staunch Christian. And one day he was a junior in our house, he should call all the priests in all the ancient Christian future. Jim wasn't going away. He walked in and decided

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that our

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human experience the

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human experience is often ignored.

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But I mean, we all know the story of taxi, but

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without Goshen, any qualms about saving money, per se, and definitely started seeking the truth of religion. Right? So this is one of the strongest ways to prove that God exists and the other dimensions to the example, if we are just animals, and it is no greater. Why do humans feel the need to wash? Why do we feel the need for collective worship? I mean, do you know in the past few years that people have actually started BTS church?

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They can start with the old churches, because they feel empty without any kind of community acts of worship. So they do some kind of meditation or yoga, whatever it is, budget, something, feel something because the human being feels empty without question, why we worship without doing it. We feel empty, committed to putting our box. So why do humans have this need to worship, I see that people don't believe in God, they worship this well, everything is what's your unit, cell, the worship, worship song, that we have this desire, worship, when we worship our Creator, not only do we feel good, not only feel good, but we actually come in, it has a positive impact on our people

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who spend more time in worship, you become kinder, become more merciful, become more charitable, you become more peaceful, experiencing a peace, the experience of transformation, when we again, if we are just by

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the fact that he's doing this to us, means that this is something that's actually real, and not something that is made up.

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So go back to some flexibility.

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They offer the doubts about

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improving your religion, because a spiritual thing, that maybe they've never made the

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animal just

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so they have a negative experience.

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Or maybe we just bring Salah they've never experienced

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or maybe they've never had the experience.

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And so for these individuals, the way you bring them back to Islam, is to get them back into worship. So if a young person is reaching out about you stop,

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before you jump

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Why do you want to reset your reading? Quran translation?

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Do that before you make any rash decisions? Why don't you be able to look at yourself sincerely and say, Oh,

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by the way,

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then if he says, Well, I totally know what you have nothing to lose by going into such that you owe

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some of them because if someone sincerely provided

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you with a spiritual experience, is the best tool. That is.

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I mean, just think about what what happens when you move over Luminar overall on

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that CD you get at that time, you can't explain it.

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But for you, that is your strongest template.

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And you can't really share that that somebody's experience.

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The final argument that will end at this point, is the picture. Now, the fifth route is for me the strongest evidence for the existence

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is where the profit centers are falling

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in love

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that there is not a single child exhibiting one way we expect a Christian agent digital religion exists

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Now, there's many different opinions on

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the issue, I'm going with his initial

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which is that the picture is a

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when the process was, every child will grow up, it means that every child is born with certain beliefs.

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And these natural beliefs will be injustice, we need formality

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that everyone is born ready, do it, this is good, this is bad. No, this is just as unjust. I have a pager,

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these things are dangerous. And therefore even the mother says that you don't have to prove the existence.

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It's already getting inside of you. You don't have to prove it you just have to unclouded

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because the the forehead is every child born and the second one is going to be in society shapes.

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In the features the device found by way we dealt with EG uspg on schools, each university was teaching a guy mutual.

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So you don't have to prove to him the Alliance's. We just have to uncover the data. And he will come to this realization. And what I found very interesting is a few years ago, I did my own research by reading the stories over 100 different pockets, we started

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to look for common threads on sports. And I was shocked because I thought the common thread might be some logical argument or something like that.

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And 70 or 80 are converted to Islam because they work.

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In their own words, that is really what I really

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like in most of the stories people first look inwardly, at inside themselves, like they realize you must, something must be out there must be a purpose to life. Certain things are good, it's certainly the people, we need to find a way to develop ourselves, and all of these things, and they already naturally begin to really hardwired into the human DNA before we start stock, and

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that was a nice start to the feature and is to be the strongest.

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And if someone's experiencing doubt about Starbucks

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the best way to bring it back to itself is to reconnect

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because Why believe natural atheism is unnatural. And why they think that atheism is solving the problem.

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Right so for example, someone may say that they don't believe in Allah because why? Why does evil exist?

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Well, if you become an atheist even still exists, the only difference is if you believe in Allah

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and if you are atheists

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because that is ever going to happen. That makes the problem worse.

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Oh, wait example. You know, an atheistic religion to cause war. Firstly, that's a policy another nature religions don't call. Right if you look at most of the wars of the past 100 years you will

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know is religion right now. Okay, but I mean, you can see what's happening in this region, but then to extremism, but it's not really sure what you can read it.

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I think in human greed will be even more attractive. The majority

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is no, there's no moral code. I mean, sometimes we wonder how can what's going on in certain countries today we're

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doing the most barbaric things. How can they do it? And then when you leave those people's lives, we're doing it many of them are atheists at the level where they honestly don't think what

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they believe the digit torture someone

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is no higher power the difficulty

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is causing more problems. For some people to religion in going to be depressed, falling of course, bad news for them. Atheism is much more depressing. Atheism is much more depressing. I mean, we are our family member dies no we

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are getting jacked up in the console but all of this what happens if you believe that okay, this

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is a mix of death of a family but much more.

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Even your own life as a Muslim, you can in a peaceful knowing you have a purpose to life. You have you know an astronaut you have gender is even

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When you grow old and no, you don't get is around the corner will chill about you like

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what if your date is justified? This is all babies by tomorrow, but the point

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is, they

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still don't care gather to work, what's the point of any

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because you're gonna die injury. So it doesn't solve the problem doesn't make things worse, while at the same time being completely unnatural and going against what your soul is trying to get you to believe in it might be one of the arguments

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eventually in the Quran,

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the Quran, the Quran of the year is very similar to a modern

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to the Quran says that when when the ship is about to see, everybody calls Allah,

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what's the

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what's our Golden State, nobody's ages.

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Everyone's like,

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Okay, this is a very similar thing at the time, to many people who claim to be eight years, deep down inside the picture is important.

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And they ignore Him because they want to follow the natural, they don't want to follow a religion or they just want to do what they want, whatever it is, but when that moment comes with no one to help them decide.

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everybody that

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just pushes through that. I'm not telling us that we should be productive as

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much easily. Right.

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So this the interesting quote in his book comes out logic book, divided reality. Chapter Four knew the argument for the existence. And one of the my favorite quotes in the chapter he says that the role of rational argument is to be connected to

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the role of rational arguments not to be points. It's not to sonically convince someone

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just to recollecting what

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the defeater has been clouded by everything else. Just be connected with the picture by talking to them about what the

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complexity of design, how the human being is designed to just be.

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Then you can reconnect someone with a pitra, you will automatically come back to the lights.

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Another way to reconnect someone with a picture, which we already discussed, is to spend time, nature and deeply reflect on the creation of

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so many people who are too caught up in modern lifestyle. All they do is watch Netflix, video games.

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Take him away from all the technology and spend a week happy. That's probably the best way

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when you're out there in the forest.

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together makes a lot of trees, someone resigning, because

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you can't have it down to

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just spending time in nature and sending

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it to the future as a private acts of worship. And again, this is why the Young was still expensive. I always advise you, before you do anything rash, or you jump the gun and just keep

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your own inquiry. There will be 100 i They do tend to the counselor and asked the level of responding

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What do you get to lose by what do you have to lose? Because for many people, you see a lot of people who end up leaving Islam, they ever been to Islam heavy, transformational act of wash, no oil lived experience for me, it's just

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just the culture the need to buy many of them used to pray salah, they wish to even know

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this culturally

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and because of that they never tasted

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never tasted the high of one and never tasted the connection needed to meet the all that person needs to be

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at the end to reconnect divinity, Allah is to worship

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to do and actually see a proper act of worship,

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to use to feel the impact of

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power on the true believers. It

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is up to the attorney if

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and when versus the scientific.

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And this is another point that we forget in math is one step. Right? Increasing with good leads.

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So if someone is only doing simple, what happened to the people

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Be completely zeros. So the doubts expediency is not going to be any intellectual reason is because they haven't done good.

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You got the money just over and over and over. Now what happened is

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reverse the trend, the

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And if we keep doing that and keep increase more depth, we can get back to the level of your feeling.

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So definitely worth should

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understand also that

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in the heart, the heart is

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imagine, is not connected, and nothing you see for the penetrating for

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demand to enter a heart.

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This is why the Quran gives the parable, or you pour water on the hill, it's false. And for others it might crack.

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And that's the paragraph and then someone has a hard heart want to get through that? And the best way to do that?

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why I think when it comes to this topic, I doubt

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it needs to be treated as a psychological issue.

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Not a philosophical question. For most people, it's either a result of trauma, or the result of being disconnected.

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And if you just reconnect with data.

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So some of the experiencing doubts,

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you find very often you haven't been to the masjid.

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You haven't attended lectures, we stopped praying Salah, we started coding.

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So it's not happening, you will generally find someone will take my time to be sincerely seeking knowledge.

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Because you are doing what you will generally find that person experiencing doubt

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is usually the one two, stripping away. So it's a spiritual,

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nothing intellectual.

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And if you solve the spiritual side of it, everything else.

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That's why I say we don't have we don't have to prove this.

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We just have to reconnect people who are

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not only dumb,

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who they may go to a phase in their life, and they don't move.

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And during that period, they will go to time.

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Because that's the two types of

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questions. But those people will tell you that the day they went back to the masjid, at some worshipping Allah, and experienced

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all the doubts,

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because that's the impact of

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this topic for today

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will be visual.

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Again, it's a different approach. I really don't believe there's a need to spend too much time, philosophy, science when it comes to stopping. It's not a scientific issue, it is a matter of a belief in Allah is natural. And when we connect with a lot of worship, experiences, you cannot know anyone else who has had to treat or has experience

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with us.

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Our job is to help people get the help to worship Allah to have a sincere and proper experience of worshiping Allah and pure by

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all the watch was actually done all this down to complete.

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So in our next presentation, which will take place, next time, we will move on to the next topic, which is the need for regulation. Right. So a question that pops up at this point is, if belief in Allah is about natural, what's the point of profits? What's the point?

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I guess next question doesn't we'll answer

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it believe the body's natural, if you already LeSean why do we need to give you the short answer to because our fixer doesn't tell us how to do what Allah wants to us. He doesn't tell us what's good and what's bad. You do. We need regulation to guide us.

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We naturally believe in what Allah wants. That's what he said. We'll discuss each new

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topic. We have a new free ebook available on our website, the website for the final proper use to the

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salon. If you go to the website section it will be available here

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I'm Bill Monroe second time

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I have a webinar we will be doing a book launch for the for the book

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discussing the book but the book should

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be downloadable Chapter One is popping up why

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the rest of the cruise ship

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he spent the past year working on this book the past five years by myself edited audio and visual it's a free download if you want the paperback version

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so we don't have

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any questions about

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also listen

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live in the three values with dignity stuck to what a believing is for a really long period of time. Examples of that see now

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that he knew

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but he said don't

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cling to something that will be treated us for so long.

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That's an

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example we have this debate famous atheists

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at the end of the day is one of the people attending the debate by stop but it was easiest, because these books in higher education and his money and it's been

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also, these have to go back to the slides like the top of

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the hour. So that's important when identity

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And seriously, for example, most people call themselves experts that the identity is a Christian it is

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now you don't see any conference in the USA

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know they become Muslim they become a Muslim.

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But some people take x plus two

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people this afternoon

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and those people are harder to empower, because for them that's the identity get paid for that which from that from that that that becomes so

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many people that should find you.

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The good point. Also counterpoint is that difficulties in life actually.

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So, the two things are happening in one hand we disconnect

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which may be impacted negatively, on the other hand going through a collective pandemic, which may be global.

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So I think if you're going to end up with two types of people, we're going to have those with a pandemic with that spinning dromeda Whoa, funny about

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standing watching YouTube video may have been the best.

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But for others whose whole stomach is

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being alone a couple of years we have been

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so whose experience

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that many of the youth growing up?

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Growing up

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growing up low, growing up just given the computers now in the computers are all Islamic natures. That's good, but most

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things like that. So it will take us a while to find

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find out just how good or

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and it's not the first time this happened even

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during the league, it happened during this time. So

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don't assume

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days says that the team of the people just gave up. People stop bringing people into this country

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because there was an impact of the plague in people's minds. So these things can have impact won't extend it until it's over.

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And you know, how we get

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any other questions or comments

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far as

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ex Muslim, this is

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based on the idea that medics can progress

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as if we know the current century, or more intelligent of intellect, not to space and like

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I cannot keep up

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with hundreds of Muslim

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people from God, I still love God, subscribe to their ex Muslim

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ideology, if only

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they cannot

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this interesting point that many people would have stopped because it's seen as with evil, but it's been seen as something of the past some people

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have no relevance we like to be I will say 90% of the time those people have no understanding of

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Islam they were raised to the core is totally full of innovation innovations or extremism voice completely the most.

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like Jordanians

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particular training

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what we'll do is talk about trauma.

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Religion, we have a collective trauma

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that's still being experienced, particularly Western countries, particularly Western countries.

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That see Islam as the

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Trojan suppression that they see the West after they abandon the church after they abandoned the sacred secular indicating Providence Plantations. And he assumes that

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not knowing the history of the status quo,

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because you'll find that most of the people were of the mindset have zero knowledge about the golden age of Islam, they have no knowledge at all about

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the okay knowledge is the history of the project that

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we assume equality to be covered in order to the universal, we are talking about the data, right. But what they don't introduce the Dark Ages, the only while Europe will go into the dark ages, Western civilization into some language to Chinese civilization.

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Right and many other civilizations, and Muslims at that time with the most logically and scientifically advanced culture on earth. And it wasn't because they adapted

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because that progress was based off the religion itself. So not knowing your history, and this is why I focus a lot of history courses.

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Lectures, because it will be to

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our history is not the same.

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What sort of their problems

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that they have abandoning a false religion for secularism was good for us abandoning the true religion for safety.

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So is packaging of people's knowledge of history? People looking at the modern world stupid.

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People are stupid, whatever the WestEd is the only way forward.

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People assuming the religion outdated again. That's our fault

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for changing our religion, should very often Muslims are the people responsible for watching this

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will become the own extremism

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So, again, very often

01:00:07 --> 01:00:12

people come to me at the education, activity, find a job and they will

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it. But the opposite is happening as well. Because in the past 20 years, there's been a rise in many jobs.

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Just to read the article, but publishing religious

01:00:28 --> 01:00:29

people is shocking.

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Because understand the problem of World War One, many of us don't know, after World War One, many Muslim communities as a host of

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many Muslim community and a host of

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job became

01:00:47 --> 01:00:51

going to the masjid we keep on growing a beard, we keep

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up this whole idea of being a practicing Muslim was like just put up.

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And there was like 40 or 50 years where there was this thing.

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And what we've seen in the past 20 years, in every Muslim country,

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is the rise of religiosity.

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And that's one reason that is

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because they see us.

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So why

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are those were there any more

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we look at the woman and we

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look at the amount of people.

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If we look at the amount of lectures and standing books and study programs, around the world, far more than Islam is being practiced on is to back up. But see one of the speakers from the way that this group is going it's time to get with

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Everyone has to be arguments.

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Right, is to commit the data. Once the data is to be shared, it's regarding

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view that you have to prove the

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MA came up with the arguments to be the

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most common.

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Be absolutely

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wrong, because most people don't ever go to the point of

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most people actually do. So he said no need to

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drop those who see a lot of snakes.

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And during that time, very interesting story with

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one of the things one of the time he was going to college, everyone can do little one only get one of our jobs. Right? This is so true scholar, he has 1000 troops that Allah says that means he probably had 1000 1000 notes. So this this morning, which is this color, and this color, love.

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to hear we have this guiding philosophy go into every single doubt and the answer, but in the villages where people want to meet these

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rational groups, your fitrah actually comprises

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the best the best level of reach the highest pitch, and that is, I think the case.

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Most people don't be fooled.

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It's a very small minority.

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That's one minority. We

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accept our efforts to be diverse

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for others

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