151 – Jumuah

Faaik Gamieldien

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151. July 29 2016

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The speakers discuss the history of the first World War and the loss of first-ever democratic president in the country. The Empire was run by the Ottoman Empire, with the goal of protecting the region from the influence of the Ottoman Empire. The conversation also touches on the importance of strong leadership in Islam and the use of halifa in political titles. The speakers emphasize the need for inclusion in political parties and the importance of history and a person to be a part of political parties. They also mention upcoming elections and the need for history and person inclusion.

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Welcome to the line Ahmed who understand you know, who wants to be on a talk Hello La

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La Himanshu fusina

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Marina Maria de la Fernando de la la mejor de la la hora de la

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la la la la la la la sharika Allah, Masha Allah Muhammad Abu Abdullah Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wa sallahu alayhi wa sallam. He was happy with what he did. Amma died because of brothers and sisters in Islam. Assalamu aleikum wa rahmatullah wa barakato.

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Allah subhanaw taala speaks to us in the Quran. Allah says in Surah Nisa,

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the 5959 verse, Allah says, a verse which we're all familiar with all you've all heard the verse and two very famous and common verses or code, Allah says, Yeah, evil Latina amanu rT o la to

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remain calm for international officiating for Lu Illa la hora Sol in content in una de la he, while your will ask him radica hieron.

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We're Aston Villa.

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I'm not sitting because I feel that all of you is sitting. So I must also set no standard. Although that would be a good excuse for me also setting because why should I stand in you all set. After all, I'm older than a lot of you. I have an inflammation in my foot. So if I put too much pressure on it, then it it starts painting.

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That's called old age.

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It's a common belief, it's very common. The doctors here would know what this I forgotten the name of it.

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But I want to take the opportunity today are speaking about about the elections, which which are coming up soon. We've already had an election, which came off and

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gave us a new president, I may refer to that election as well.

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The election,

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which was held amongst the amongst all ama.

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And I want to say something also about

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the historical

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background,

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to the whole question of elections and where elections come from,

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and where the elections is part of

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the political exercises that Muslims should participate in, because there are various views on whether Muslims should participate in politics, number one, number two, and furthermore, in the electoral process that is taking place in a

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secular,

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Republican setting, as we have in South Africa. And in

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I would they say, most countries in the world, it's called democracy.

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And there are Muslims and non Muslims who have a particular view on democracy.

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Now, for those of us who read,

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will agree with me that democracy doesn't have one definition.

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Democracy is practiced in the United States of America, which still baffles me up to today. That is, for me, undefinable. I don't know what to make of that kind of democracy.

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I understand the democracy in this country, which I'm very unhappy with.

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And there are other democracies, there's democracies that are called democracies, of course, we know the old definition of democracy, which is government,

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by the people, for the people.

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What's the third one, by the people, for the people, from the people, I think, which which, which doesn't really work that way, because democracy is a few people being voted in and they control everything, the person things the government, the parliament, the foreign policy, everything is controlled by

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we have 50 million people in this country, we elect 300 people to speak for us that they call democracy in this country. And in this country, we do not even have the facility and the luxury of voting for our own candidates. we vote vote for a party and the party decides who goes to Parliament. So so that is what so called democracies. I'm not going to give my view on whether this is halal or haram.

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Within

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is

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good or bad.

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That is for you to decide.

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I want to go back again to 1924, maybe a little bit before 1924, maybe 1921 or 1920.

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Look at the aftermath of the First World War

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and the impact that will had on Islamic politics.

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Islamic politics, up to the First World War was a system of what is called khilafah.

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of the caliphate, as we call it.

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And this Caliphate set

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in Turkey,

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under the or rather in charge, and in control of the role of the Ottoman Empire, and the Ottoman Empire, which was run by the Turks took over from the abasi, the Empire, which is run by the atoms, that was the last Arab empire that had halifa.

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When the Muslims last when the Ottoman Empire,

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of course, as you know, controlled all the Arab lands, control all the Muslim countries, so that all of the Levant, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, North Africa, was all controlled by the Ottomans, and at the top of the Ottoman Empire, set the halifa.

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And as time went on this califa became weaker and weaker and weaker and weaker. Until the First World War, when this hollyford political power dissipated completely. He went into

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partnership with the Germans, and that lost for him the credibility that not only the Muslims had, that he had not only visit with the Muslims, but also with regard to non Muslims because he also had non Muslims in his empire.

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his empire wasn't only run members, they will add up non Muslims in his empire out of Lebanon, not the whole of Lebanon, but a lot of Lebanon was non Muslim, sorry, a lot of it was non Muslim, Iraq, a lot of it was non Muslim, Egypt similarly, and North Africa. Similarly,

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the other weakness of the Ottoman halifa to us that

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there was no Muslim in Africa that recognized the Ottoman Khalifa as the halifa. Africa. It was, it was a mutual dislike, the Turks didn't like African African didn't like the tax. I don't think it was a racial divide. I just think that that is how it went. Similarly, the advantage of once didn't recognize the fact

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that was a large population. And so, so, also the Persians in recognize the khilafah but the Persians Of course, they are non record non recognition of the Ottoman hell evidence because they were Shia, and they did not recognize any Khalifa called by the name of halifa. They believed in their 12 imams. So they didn't recognize Not only did they not recognize the Ottoman Empire, they did not recognize the sound effect of abubaker neither armor neither Osman.

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So that was the situation in 1921. It saw the demise. How did this demise take place? We know that a man by the name of Kemal Ataturk, the

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call it the military savior of Turkey, who can be saved turkey from the from being totally destroyed.

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And now because the khilafah was in decline, and if you laugh at that normal political power

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at the turn decided that he wanted to replace the Philippines.

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And he wrote a letter to the Muslims. Many of you may not know this. We all think that that the turqoise this man who banned the Amazon, and etc, etc, etc.

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He wrote a letter to the Muslims, we say to the Muslims,

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that we have your halifa sitting here in our country. We look after him Wi Fi, the Wi Fi the family we house him, we honor him. None of us ever made a contribution to his upkeep.

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None of you come along and say, Well, you know, what's our hurry for as well? You know, can we give you some money towards number one number two, you don't recognize him as a halifa.

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We the Turks we're and we're the only nation really that recognize him and honor him as a policeman.

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So what's the point in I mean, a halifa av is no use to you or no use to us.

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So what attacker did was that he said

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that we are going to replace him

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What what they called a parliament or a national assembly

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and

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they select the halifa but Halifax was stripped of all his powers, they elected the National Assembly.

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And what now you must remember for Muslims this was a

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big change in their political lives. Because after the Muslims believe that they had to have a halifa

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On another occasion, inshallah we'll go back into the

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Quranic and prophetic underpinnings of the falafel, what are the Ahadi the deeper khilafah of course, we know that the only time that the word Khalifa is mentioned in the Quran is when Allah Allah said to the angels in the giant flower,

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he said to the angels are going to put

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a Khalifa on the dunya on the earth that was in the agenda when he spoke to the angels. And by that is clearly meant,

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that allows father are saying to the angels, I'm going to put men on the dunya every single human being is going to be my halifa. So that Khalifa does not refer to a king sitting on the throne, or a halifa in the classical sense of the word. That is the only time the Quran uses it. So there is nothing in the Quran that tells us that we should ever halifa

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what Allah Desa in the Quran, Allah says, Yeah, you will Edina hermano aqui en la wa t o Rasool. Allah says oh you people who believe Allah addresses the believers only Yeah, you are Latina hermano. The address is only to the believers. Be obedient to Allah and be obedient

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to his Rasul Allah La Silla.

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And thirdly, we're all in agreement

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and be obedient

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to the people of authority.

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mimco

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Allah doesn't say to the people of authority full stop. Allah says only Omri mimco.

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If Allah only amor full stop, we would have been in big trouble.

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Allows Allah says, No, you shall be obedient only to those in authority from amongst yourselves. What does that mean? It means whom you have

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appointed and recognized, to be the people to be to be have authority over you. I can't sit here and say, You must listen to me. I'm not your new I mean, I'm in a chair. I'm the mom of the emerging digital Listen to me.

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It doesn't work that way.

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Unless you voted for me or elected, or you made to me, I there is no connection in me being have any authority over you. Yes, I speak to you by the dean about the Quran about the Sunnah. But authority, I have no authority over you. I can't tell you to go and vote or not vote, I can't you have to go to Java not to go to Jad. I can't, I can't give any commands to you. All I can say to you is this is where Allah says the tool says it's up to you to decide whether you want to follow it or not.

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So it means that the authority in Islam is not an authority until

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the people give

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their approval in some way or another to that authority. I can't assume because I'm a chef, I'm an authority over you

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say that Allah doesn't say

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yeah, you are Latina, Manu, attri Allah wa T or Rasool Allah,

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Allah to say that

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be obedient to Allah and His messenger and the Allah from amongst, you

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know, in the Quran, Allah says,

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Allah says we're all in agreement and those in authority with you have placed in authority. In other words, the authority must based in the leaders by the people

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was this doesn't say much for the kind of elections which we have appointing the people in authority over us. doesn't say much about it doesn't say much about us. Nevermind this quiet ism that we have. We have a sort of a quietism in this in this community. We accept these things we even this content, the Quran, say well, it's been like that for 50 years.

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Like we say about a lot of other stuff. Oh,

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It's been like that for 300 years. The innovations have been around for 300 years. So we leave it as it is don't make a noise.

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So what happens to us now that 50 years will go past, and we go deeper and deeper and deeper and deeper, until what happens to us?

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allows father the sense to us test which we cannot be

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seen in the Middle East. You see it in Iraq, Syria, Syria, Syria, North African countries, we ask ourselves the question What happened?

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allows 400 gave them 1400 years or so themselves.

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We've only been here 300 years, we've got another 1100 to go 1400 years, Allah gave it to the Muslims of the Muslim world. And what did they do?

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The H, a party doll.

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Whatever they do, they're in the Middle East, sit back. Now they enjoy the riches of the oil. And digging deeper and further and further away from from allows final time. So I thought this is a long time to consider these things.

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My responsibility, Allah says it's your responsibility. Each and every one of us has that responsibility. We don't have a clergy in Islam, we only have Muslims, that bothan is guided by the conscience,

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guided by the conscience,

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and speak out against that, which

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is not thought of it. And we can clearly see that it's taking us back. We can clean it, the signs are all day

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that we have zero leadership, and the leadership which assumes leadership is taking us nowhere. We are not going on a path to know it. So what do we do? We ignore it, push it aside, push it aside.

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And every time somebody have those appear, then we say

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but we don't see anything else.

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Some of them like that, with a nebulous alum did something and want to know, excuse me, why are you doing that? Why are you doing that? Why are you doing this? Is this in line with Allah and what Allah has commanded? Who is not in line with our laws, foreigners commanded? Everything they used to ask him about?

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Every single thing he was questioned about why are you doing this? And the first question they would ask is, what does Allah say? Since Command of Allah and the Prophet say no Jericho monoball is in my own reasoning, then they would say, Well, if it's your own reasoning of Mohammed salam, then allow us also to use our reasoning. And a lot of times it happened when that bothered happened with an evisa salaam talked at a certain place to start the war. And they ask the property owner to realize this revelation property No, not the revelation they said fine. We also have our own ideas about this. So they said to Providence,

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Park in front of the well some behind the walls, from your arm in front of the walls and you in command of the wall which is behind promises Marcela, good idea betlem. The Sahaba of the Prophet The Prophet said we're going to fight the Quraysh year in Medina, they must come here in Medina, we're going to confront him right here in Medina.

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So to taba say, Dr. rasulillah revelation Allah spoke to you about this is a knowledge victory. So we said fine, in that case, we the majority say that we will fight them out, let's go out to the city, let's not destroy the city, let's go out of the city will have offered will have the mountain a day back and we will encircle them and show them. So a lot of the

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second success of Islam was built on this

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even flow of communication and exchange of ideas between the leadership and the community. But that can only be done if the community

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has in some way or other

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been part of the process of making our leadership.

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How that should be done is a matter for people to work out whether it's elections, whether it whatever it may be, but there should be at least some kind of connection phase now total disconnect. You have a few people sitting in the room electing themselves and 2 million Muslims sitting outside the room having no say. And when those people come into the room, they say we are leaders, we are leaders. And we sit and we say nothing about it. We don't even talk about it. Don't even discuss it. We didn't even ask and this is throughout the country. We have National Economic Council from where the National Economic Council come

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from what do they come from what you know they come where does it

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come? What is the owner MANOVA about?

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They may know by the Quran and Sunnah whatever other scientists they know they none of them. Few of them ever know anything about accounting for example or myths.

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whatever other sciences we need today in society to this idea

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of philosophy or sociology or psychology or the scientists, you all need to run a community.

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And so

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if this community had to be run by people like me,

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all the people who are sick will die, because I'm not a doctor.

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In the time of honorable hottub Omar was the most successful Administrator of the Muslim Empire ever known in the history of man.

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And how did he run his empire?

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When establish the first bank,

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Amara zona establish the first bank, a physical building with money inside belonging to the state.

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Amara was the one

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who started the first pension fund.

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run by the state.

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every man woman and child in Medina got a pension

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from the state coffers because the state was so rich. In 10 years armor conquered all of the rest of the world, the rich Persian Empire

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and the Romans were defeated.

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Billions of gold and silver dinars flowed into Medina, sama, establish a pension fund.

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Now to start a pension fund or to run a bank, you know what you need, need bankers, people who can add and deduct and subtract.

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So did not go to Abdullah road.

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And Ali, Vitali,

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to say, Come, Ali, you're such a good Muslim, you must be in charge of the bank.

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And if you go to one of the great Sahaba and say, you will be in charge of the pension fund? No.

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You said these institutions need accountants.

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And he said in my view, the best accountants are the Greeks getting a Greek accountant to run this bank in Medina.

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How's it possible

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for me to become a treasurer of an organization? How is it possible just because I'm a chef and a member of the organization? So I become the treasurer of the organization. And the next day, I'm on a TV

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so many questioning and asking me, what did I do with the money of the organization

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and you love but it's a very serious matter. It means we're not following the Sunnah. We're not following the practice of our pious predecessors.

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And because we are not doing that, that is why we are in the dilemma that we are

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so

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at attempt then, and he was not a very good man, but they're not all men are good men.

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He wrote a letter and he said to the Muslims, you can't put this responsibility of looking after your halifa on us alone.

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So we are going to change the system. And if man Mohammed Iqbal, the great Indian philosopher, thinker, one of the greatest minds and Islamic produced in the sub

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continent is that

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the Indian continent box a Pakistani Indian continent, your word of Muhammad Akbar. You know, the most famous book was the reconstruction of of is a deconstruction of thought

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in three continents reconstruction of thought in Islam. He was an Oxford graduate.

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And he

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broke away from

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those people who clamored for the retention of the Filofax II Sydney and asked him how can you take away a 49 year institution in Islam and agree with that?

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And he said, but the term used he had

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to apply their mind to the problem. And this is the solution to replace one man

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was old and see now

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what a parliament or a group of people who would hold shoes

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and give decisions for the community for the Muslim community and they would be elected by the Muslim community.

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He was a Sunni Muslim.

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If you read the history of the Philippines, you will find that they

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to people

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who voiced a concern

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to the Ottoman authorities or the Turkish authorities that they should retain the feel of it.

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That if you're having a holiday halifa would enhance the status amongst the Muslims.

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And these two people, one in one's name was Amir Ali.

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That if you've read the works of Amir Ali was a Shia

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and the other person was the Agha Khan.

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He was what they call in bakasana coda.

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If we do not

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have

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a view or a good view of the Shia, then the Chinese are the extremists. She is Han is there the extreme she is

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there, for example, say they are hard as we know as resources, and he drinks and he has non Muslim wives. And they would have to hold up. But you know, wine is not allowed to be you can't drink wine, Muslim.

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haram your leading drinks? I mean, how can you? And you know there are other half worship there are Saudi Pakistan. I mean, Saturday, I know there are big photographs of me in their shops wherever they are they really the half worship.

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And you know what they say?

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That in our

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interpretation of Islam, the ohana is such a nature. And it's such a great personality, that when the wind reaches his lips, he turns to water.

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Now you may laugh. But today in this community, there are people who speak about the peers in the chef's in the same way.

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They will come and tell you

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He will say to them, but you know, how can how can you do that? And how can you do they say Robert, he's a special man,

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some ordinary men.

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And so the Arakan and Amir Ali were the only two people who wrote a letter to the National Assembly of Turkey to say but you know, you shouldn't get rid of the halifa. And the Turks are so insulted. They said only these two people what is a Shia one is alhaja. These two people they want to dictate to a Hanafi Muslim country who just came out of the fact that we should keep it and that I think further made up our mind

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not to keep the to keep the philosophy.

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Now

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there are people who say that the modern secular state,

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which is South Africa is a modern secular state. Egypt is a modern secular state.

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Iraq is a so called modern secular state. So is turkey a modern secular state? There are those people who say that these states are committing sherek.

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There are these there are people who say but you know, allies, the sovereign, how can you make Parliament the sovereign? A law makes the laws, you can't replace a law with a parliament. And therefore if you could, if you replace a law with a parliament, one person I heard him, he said that these secular states are the creation of that job.

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And those who support the secular states are worshiping that job. They're making shift.

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You can say about Trump what you like but it doesn't look to me like the job

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was to have one eye in this in this interview. But that is made that is a view.

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And so in 1924, did you laugh at finally came to an end? Even before that, at the end when the Mongol moguls invaded Iraq and got rid of the Abbasid caliphate.

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There wasn't a Holly for for 350 years, what was without halifa.

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Then after 350 years,

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one of the cousins of the abbasids, who ruled at that time in Egypt, declared himself double Khalifa. And that he

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was the head of the mameluke Empire lasted for three and a half 1000 years. Just one Halima sitting in Cairo, now that none of the other Muslims attested or respected him to be the halifa In fact,

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heyday of khilafah because people say today you know, you must have one halifa the Khalifa must control the whole world, the whole Muslim world.

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The only time that khilafah was successful in the Muslim Empire was for 30 years after the death of the Navy. So listen,

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because what is the killer a lava means

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Muslims recognize that leader, they love that leader. they obey that leader that is full of activity, every other qualified to big beer halifa by force

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of an army spies, all kinds of people to keep him on the throne.

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Every other philosopher was a philosopher

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of keeping the authority by force in taking the time the Abbas's, which is the golden era of Islam, golden era of Islam, the shining light, they did a lot of great things, both of us hospitals, etc, etc, etc. But in the interim, there were two qualifiers

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which were pointed by that one was sitting in the oven was sitting in Spain.

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And then when they got rid of that one in Spain, there abouts in one in Spain, the, the the oma yet came, and they put them in Spain, so they were always to Halifax for a long time, they were to Halifax. So those people who say today we're gonna bring the halifa back. That's a look at this the

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the purpose of khilafah?

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Because what is the purpose of clean alpha?

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The purpose of khilafah khilafah is there to administrate the Muslim Empire

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if we cannot even administer

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the city of Cape Town,

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or the municipality of Ronda boss is, how are we going to administer the world of Islam?

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What Why am I saying that?

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Because it shouldn't be that Muslims should start in their own localities

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to administer and to be in charge. Because what what what is the new khilafah mean? It means that we must, they've got the banks, they've got the money, they've got everything, we will just conquer them and take it from them. Because we have nothing

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kind of psychology says what kind of politics is there? Yes, we will be the philosopher. We will have an army, we will

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make jihad, we will conquer the countries and we'll take what they have.

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Let

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the Sahaba See, the hobgoblins went into Egypt.

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They left it like it was they went to Iraq. They left it like it was they integrated with the local people. They respected their culture. They respected their religion. They respected the artifacts that they had.

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I mean, I always think you know if we should have a Muslim state in South Africa in Cape Town, I'm sure many Muslims would first go down the god the wine route, and say, well, we're now Muslim country, slash and burn. session burn. Wine is haram in Islam. kamdev all these wind farms here, you know, you know Muslim state.

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That is the mindset when Omar conquered iraq

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90% of Iraq was not Muslim.

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50% was Christian, because the Romans were they

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they were a majority Christian country.

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But they accepted the rule of Islam. And then wind farms upon wind farms upon wind farms.

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And Paul comes upon pork farmers look upon both farms.

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And

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police administrators, the institution collect jizya tax from the non Muslims 10% of the produce every year. And they went to the wine farmers and the wine farmers would say to them, but we don't have money we'll give you of our wine. This is opera we produced this you should you must take it because that's the law in terms of your law. Whatever we produce, we'll give you 10%

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and the big promise and we will give you if we have 100 pigs we'll give you 10 pigs.

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So of course, this was a hobby. He thought no what what am I gonna do and I'm sitting with 10 bottles of wine and 10 pigs.

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I have to send this to Medina.

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Hola Hola, como de La Villa? So he wrote a letter to Ana said, Oh no, this is my dilemma and collected all this wine and pigs. What does I do with it?

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What did you think? What did Omar say? Destroy the pig farms destroy the one? He said, What did he say? He said, take this back to the wind farm and tell the wind farm to sell it and tell him to give you the money. And the pig farmer, give his pigs back to him, tell him to sell it and tell him to keep you the man. Because we can't accept it's hard for us but not for you.

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So panel, this was at the height of Islam, that

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Islam in the greatest nice power in the time.

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And look how they treated the subjects

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were not Muslim.

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Because it could not have been anywhere else we could not have conquered the world and maintained

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our hegemony and control over that world if this is not what we did.

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I want to talk now a little bit about

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of course, the other people who supported the Khilafat movement was the Indian Muslim population.

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There were about 70 million Muslims at the time in India. And they were

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really real great supporters of the Khilafat movement. They didn't want the tilava to form.

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I'm afraid they had some ulterior motive.

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The ulterior motive was that they hated the British because the British was ruling them. Why did they the British, because they ruled Indian and the British took the power away from them. And now the British was also in charge of

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the remnants of the Ottoman Empire. But be that as they started khilafah movement, but that also fizzled out. So since 1924, we have been, we have not had enough. But let's come to our more localized local municipal elections.

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Now given some indications of

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how Islam looks at other communities around which they live, and the kind of tolerance that we should have to other communities.

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I hear people say that,

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of course, let me make it very clear that Muslims must participate in the political process. In my mind, we do not have an alternative. There is no alternative. There's no other Parliament or other municipalities that the run our face in this country.

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So I do not agree with those who say that one should not vote for whatever reasons it may be or should not participate in politics.

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Now let's look at the reasons why people say this. People say this because they say first of all, let's go to the DA they say the DA doesn't support the Palestinian struggle.

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I agree with him saying that the ANC government has got an embassy in Israel.

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Why is it that they only say that the DEA doesn't have a policy on Palestine but they do not say that our government that's in power, although they say they pay lip service to pro Palestinian policies.

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Most of that even as an office on Johannesburg, airport masa,

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the security branch of the of the world's government on Earth, which is Israeli Government

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other people say that here's this corruption in the government so we're not going to support the government so we're gonna vote for some other part I will say but you know these people they sit in Parliament they make laws that sanction

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abortion

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that sanction

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whatever else they sanction me the list of it

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what what else? Well, a lot of

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gay rights

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and all of these things

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so Muslims, a guy who should have nothing to do with these people, you know, look, look Look at him.

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And therefore, we won't even vote in the election. I'm not going to go through the day they have no Palestine policy. I'm not gonna vote for the ANC because they, they say gay rights is fine. Now I'm not gonna vote for this one. Because of this. And because of that,

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Is this an Islamic State?

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The first question to ask, are we living in an Islamic State?

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We're not living in an Islamic State.

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We are, let's say 5% of the population

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95% of the people living in this country are not Muslim.

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And we've seen the kind of tolerance that Islam has towards others.

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But the fact that they are 95% of the population means that they can make the last payment to make.

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If we were 95% of the population of this country, then we would have had that right to say no gay rights. No, this no that no that, that we will ever, we will support the Palestinians, we'll give them money, we'll do this, we'll do that we could have done all that.

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But we're not in charge.

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They are in charge.

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This is their parliament. This is the country.

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And I'm not going to say what the old people said, and what the Sharia tells us. And that is, if you're not satisfied, in a country, you must make ijarah.

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I'm not going to make that the platform that I'm going to stand on.

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Because we part we are rooted in this country. And we are allowed to practice our faith in this country.

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Whether the government gives gay rights, or whatever rights, and I disagree with it, I disagree with it.

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If the government says abortion for 12 year olds, I'm not going to let my 12 year old daughter have an abortion. I don't have to do it.

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If they say that we drink, we don't drink, we don't even talk. Even he would make legislation for us force us to do we will not do it.

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So whatever they legislate in terms of what they believe they free to do so

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not because we allow them to do it.

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But because we don't have the power to change it.

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So when it comes to government in this country,

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we must be involved. You cannot change that. You cannot say Well, I'm not going to go to Parliament, because parliament is their gay rights or Parliament says, you know, abortions is fine. No, I did this, that, but I must not be part of it.

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I say I'm against it. But I'm here to represent my people or to see that

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the administration of where I live, is being looked after. So coming down to municipal elections, and this is where the crunchies the municipal elections, because nothing to do with abortions, and gay rights, municipal elections has got to do about are your streets clean? Do you have lights? Is your parks in order?

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Is your area being run? Well?

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That is what municipal REITs is all about.

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We are voting for? For what what are you voting for in municipal elections? You're not voting for a political party is a very important point to remember. You voting for people like armor appointed the Greek

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accountant, why not because he was a Greek, not because he was a Christian, but because he had the skill to old and keep the books of the Bible model in proper order.

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I repeat

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on our did not appoint the Greek because he was Greek, not because he was a Christian. But he appointed him because he had the skill and the attitude, the capacity, the qualifications, to keep the books of the Bible mile in good stead.

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And that should be how we should look at the municipal elections. I must vote for somebody who knows what he or she is doing.

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This is not an election for movies, or for Allah or for copies.

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We not wanting to put a Mufti in the council chamber wherever they sit. We're not voting to put the a judge Muslim judge. They

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know even a Muslim. We are there to put somebody there who knows how to administer a municipality

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to the best of their ability, and how would we know that we would look at the person's experience and its qualification

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And if it is the Muslim that has either the best experience or the best qualifications, then we are duty bound to vote for a Muslim. And if it is, if it is a non Muslim who has the requisite qualification and requisite experience, we must vote for the non Muslim

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because that is the purpose of this election.

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But if you have to vote or point any mom in this magic, you can't point the Greek accountant with a non Muslim Kenyan, you will not do it

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doesn't make sense. Something doesn't make sense to vote for somebody who has a moon on his on his on his badge on his cover? No, that's wrong. That just so wrong, just so an Islamic?

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Because then had nothing to do with the issues at stake.

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And you might say, Well, you know, I say to you, I have a foot problem.

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So I'm sitting, I have a pain in my foot. that two people apparently in cater to orthopedic surgeons who deal with this problem.

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They both non Muslim and they both are white.

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And I have adopted my fan, you tells me two doctors have told me they the two best orthopedic surgeons, what must I do? What do you think I'm going to do?

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What will you do? If I was your father?

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Would you say my father's a shame?

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Because he went to a non Muslim doctor. And why he didn't that doesn't like white people?

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Is that your considerations? No. No, that we must get the best doctor for you.

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We'll give you the injection

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for the treatment that is best for you, isn't it? Why? Because that man is the best man for the job.

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And you do the same for yourself.

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You get audited no children we're gonna send you

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to find each other hospital.

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They're gonna they're gonna make loans for you to get the best doctors to operate a new and to set your heart right. And similarly, so.

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This is not a religious election, religion.

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Religion tell me

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to the mix allows the council to think if that was the way

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they look at our streets for crying out loud, our lights, our water, whatever it may be. These are the things that look at. So if a man is a is an engineer, for example, or is a civil engineer, he knows about these things. And he stands to election we said we vote for him. Is he white? Doesn't matter. Is he Christian? Doesn't matter. Is he a Jew doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. That doesn't matter.

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Doesn't matter.

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Those are not the boxes we tick here. those boxes we take somewhere else.

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There 360 million Muslims surrounding Palestine.

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The Jews are 23,000,300 500 sorry, over 500 million Muslims in the Middle East, surrounding Palestine. The Jews are 23 million inside Israel

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was the support

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of the Palestinians right there by the neighbors who are Muslim.

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We shot all the needles in the pocket.

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So why don't you also shout about all those new seats over there. That's a sporting person.

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I mean, more than 500 million. If you saw just one day to March, they just marches continue walking, to walk them all into the sea,

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then do anything else.

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Those are not the issues that we voted for.

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If the Muslim is the best man for the job, I will vote for him.

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I have to work for him. He's a Muslim, is my brother. He's got the qualifications to vote doesn't matter which party is from visa Muslim waiver.

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So these are very important issues that we need to look at when we go into elections like this.

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If they are young Muslims,

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young candidates for counselors who are Muslims who do not yet have the experience, but they qualified then vote

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For the party where the youngest Muslims on the party list,

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do not vote for Muslim parties whose members are whole greybeards like me, and work with sticks. know,

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if you're going to vote for a Muslim party vote for that Muslim party was that the youngest members, and those youngest members names must be on top of the list

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when you vote on them,

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because then we are assured of

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a history of good people that we put in now already. If we put in a person as a civil engineer, and as a young man, and he's standing for whatever party is standing for, and he's a Muslim, then vote for him or vote for that party. So we can start a cycle of our people getting the experience and eventually getting the way we want them to be.

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And finally, I want to say we also should become part of this.

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And again,

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the criteria must not be Palestine,

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not a criteria.

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If the criteria is Palestine, we should also go to the ANC.

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We should also vote not vote for the acdp. Because they all they all say they the government's shouting on platforms about being pro Palestine, but they the worst supporters either not was the best supporters of Palestine, officially and on government level in this country. So don't give me the argument that the DA doesn't have. And I don't support the DA By the way,

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I've told you what my criteria will be. So the E FF as the base member, our for the E FF.

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I know some of you are looking down.

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But I must do what I say I do. I can't tell you to do something, and I don't do. So my criteria is going to be who's the best guys to do the job isn't the deal for them. Either. The ffl for them, is very enjoyable to them. I look only at the quality of the person who are voting.

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That's very important. Otherwise, you get swayed by so many people will come to you with so many things. Or they'll say you know this and let's say that they say yeah, but as a Muslim by design doesn't work for you.

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That's a good Muslim musical, the rate of your

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It looks like a copy of the old times, not even a white is he is the best and he looks good. It's got to be at all. So

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that's how we think that's what we do.

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Or is as a member of our my Jamaat, right sir, I caught me by the machine. In man, the man's got no idea of what we've never seen the intent of accountability. But I will try

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to vote is very important. Your vote is extremely important. Use it wisely. And don't vote but use your word vice applies, apply your mind to it sometime. Apply your mind. Look at the candidate, look at the party, apply your mind, take everything out of the equation, except qualifications and quality and delivery.

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So we are lost on the guidance. Again, I haven't I haven't said we must vote twice. Because I'm not supposed to do that. I'm not gonna do that.

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So

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are you

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I want to talk next week.

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About

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the modern day philosopher. We have a group of people that are claiming to be led by the by modern halifa.

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I want to look at

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what does that mean for Muslims in the world?

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What does Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi mean for for us in the world, because he claims to have taken the position of the highest level of leadership of the Muslims of the world.

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I'm not going to deal with it from a political or from a military point of view.

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I'm going to look at it purely from where this idea developed from the time of the Navy solem. Up to now.

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What is the Navy saw some say say about khilafah.

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And what he said about sea lava, how to is what he said how authentic is it, that what he what he said what people are saying about? I think it's very important for us to know that also isn't relevant, so to every halifa.

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When we look at their hobbies, we look at the development we look at the history, we as Muslims should ask ourselves, is it still relevant? Is it possible to have one man

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to rule over all the Muslims of the world?

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Salam aleikum wa rahmatullah

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