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He says gone 11 minutes after 11 Assalamu alaykum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh Helen porcelain for Mohammed Welcome to our mashreq on radio Islam. It is Thursday morning we are usually joined on the line by our esteemed guests from Durban brother Idris from Isa but right now it is by is in the A some way in the Far East and we won't be speaking to him today. However, it is
a very interesting and very knowledgeable person out of the UK, particularly from the city of Birmingham. For those who hate
having me speak speaking to brothers wave this morning Shanahan as he's right up until 12. And we will be finding out about what he does and the interesting work that he is involved in and how that will definitely benefit many of us, particularly those who are going through some sort of emotional trauma etc, which Allah has seized we can take great benefit out
of this program today. Just to remind our listeners, please SMS or WhatsApp 0731738461 in Colin join in the discussion as well as 0018541548 on the line with us right now we have for the Sohail Kailash Plaza Santa Maria Kumara De La Hoya bochetto walaikum salam rahmatullah wa barakato Mallanna. Very, very well.
Yes, we can hear you clearly. Chuck panossian. Can you hear me? Yes, I'm very lucky to
Brazil. It's an honor to have you on the show with us for joining us, firstly,
tell us a little bit about yourself and what is the what it is exactly that you do. Okay, this a lot of money Rahim al hamdu Lillahi Rabbil alameen wa salatu salam ala Colombia mousseline about my name is O'Hare. And I believe most of your listeners are familiar with brother Idris camisa. And the so happens that I am a cousin of his living in Birmingham, originally from Malawi. And my background was in finance and management and in about 2007 eight, I retrained as a complementary therapist, so especially in the areas that we live in here in the UK, within our local Muslim and Asian community, there is a massive, massive problem with regards to emotional distress, depression, falls, stress
related issues. And this was something that, you know, being in the circles of, you know, hello cars and things like that. So a lot of pain amongst people. And it felt that it was something that I was connected to. And I felt that you know, inshallah, by learning certain tasks and skills that we could inshallah help our community from the grassroot level.
Mashallah, so, looking at his formal training that you have acquired,
you are able to assist people in different aspects concerning the mental health, particularly with regards to emotional healing. You've had numerous workshops as well.
Before we come through those you come from the city of Birmingham tell us a little bit about Birmingham you know, it's made news after
TV constantly and particularly after the Paris attacks when when there was a suppose it expert on Islam, even MSL and he said that the the there's not just no go zones, but as zones, cities like Birmingham that are totally Muslims, Muslim and non Muslims. Just simply don't go in. Tell us a little bit more about Birmingham. First, you need to call it Birmingham, Sharif
masala We are the team that title
in Birmingham, Sharif, we are the second largest city in the UK. We have, I think in excess of about 400 massages here in Birmingham itself.
And we've got a massive Muslim population of probably more than about 400,000.
So, you know, we we have a lot of facilities within Birmingham, with regards to hell on food with regards to massage a mother is there is a lot that is happening. But at the same time, we have those same problems with you know, the people living in a level of poverty, which people outside of the UK don't seem to understand. And we have a lot of issues here and especially here
Welcome back everyone Macerich We apologize for that little bit of glitch that we had. We were off a for a few moments. But we were speaking to Brother Sohail and the question I asked him was about Birmingham just to give us a little bit of background on the city of Birmingham. zeros give you an interesting account of the city there Mashallah. So we have a lot of massages, we have a very good Muslim population that caters for every need Alhamdulillah through halal food and catering our everything is Alhamdulillah, Masha, Masha, I'm one of the things unfortunately within the cities as well, as we see there's a lot of poverty, especially within the Asian Muslims, and even the other
Muslim immigrants that have come into into Birmingham. And what, unfortunately, you know, cropped up is food banks. And food banks is a system whereby people that have, you know, whose benefits have been served or people who are living under under the poverty line, people who don't have enough money to pay their bills, or you know, to buy the food.
The system was set up initially by the churches, well, hamdulillah mosques have taken some leaders now as well, in the last four or five years. And what happens is, wherever my family is identified that it does not have enough, then they are sent to these food banks to go and collect some rations of food. And unfortunately, you know, due to our Muslim people as well being you know, in this situation,
there's an increased amount of people having to go to these food banks and collect food as well. Okay, so
we can't really fathom that the UK being such a healthy economy is such a wealthy country, strong currency, etc, in such great amount of poverty, but purpose is not the focus of our program. inshallah, another occasion we can we can really go into discussing UK. What we want to do in this program is to focus on the emotional healing. Part of it is your background and studies you say you had a degree in accountancy in management, then that was followed by a corporate career. Give us a bit of background on this emotional healing studies give us a bit more of what you studied in Medline. Okay, I started off studying about life coaching, and learning how basically to talk to
people in a way whereby we empower them through a series of questions, then that intrigued me. So I went further and I and I studied NLP, which is neuro linguistic programming. And again, that has to do with you know, the power of suggestion, the power of the words that we use in the in the way, just like Muslim said that when you speak to people speak at a level and it is vanilla, you know, the West has turned it into a science in itself. That How is it that we talk to people, how is it that we face them when we speak to them and how we, you know, mirror their body language, all these things? So that intrigued me a lot. So I carried on my studies, and thereafter I did. I went and I
completed a diploma in clinical hypnotherapy. So that included counseling, which included a lot of work with regards to cognitive behavioral therapy as well. Yes, so Alhamdulillah Yeah, basically, there's a lot involved with with regards to do the studies part of it, Shama now,
training in complementary health and you've been using this to help the community. We have the mainstream health services etc. But this is called
Mental Health Service a little bit about that. Normally, what happens is the mainstream health is all to do with medications. And they whenever whenever someone has got an illness, they then have a responsive reaction to that. So they say, Okay, you got a headache like this. But what we do is complimentary healing is in line with whatever is being prescribed by the doctor, we also help the client or the patient to actually manage their situation better. So, a lot of the times when people have got a lot of ailments, a lot of swelling, a lot of pain, we try and look into that situation to see Hold on. So what is it that is causing this? And what was it that initially caused this problem?
So through a series of questions through a series of, you know, therapies that are available at us, we try and analyze where is it that we can take or help this this patient?
You're basically using that to help help the community now. Sorry, brother, so he's a you're a clinical hypnotherapist. So there's hypnotherapy involved. Basically, like I said, the power of suggestion, etc.
know that the image that gets into my mind when you speak about hypnotherapy is that the person you are treating goes into a trance, and then they sort of you sort of fix things up in the wild, this person is in a trance. Firstly,
the Islamic aspect of this, can we go into a little bit of understanding about the Islamic aspect concerned? inshallah, I think a majority of the scholars who probably haven't fully studied the science behind hypnotherapy
generally tend to condemn it from the outset. That it's best to be avoided. But again, it's only a means it's a tool by which we can actually help people attain a positive outlook on their life. A lot of people that are very far gone, they tend to need some help. Now, for example, it's it's quite interesting. They say the state of hypnotherapy is the same state then when we are in a state of meditation.
So a lot of people, they do some liquor, or they might do some maraca. And in that state, when the eyes are closed, the conscious mind is shut off. And as soon as the eyes are closed, the subconscious mind switches on. So a classical example, in this scenario, is where we do work with people wanting to quit smoking. So if I was to ask, you know, a smoker that tell me, you know, is it logical for you to be smoking, for a health perspective, from regard or financial perspective from the issues related to smoking in general, and consciously, they will be able to justify the fact that smoking is not good or healthy for them.
But the habit is not in the conscious mind. The habit has been stuck, and has been ingrained in the subconscious. Yes. So if we were to then help this person leaves a bad habits, we would ask him to close his eyes and take a few deep breaths and relax him. And that is all it takes for hypnotherapy to start working. It's only when the conscious mind is switched off. Because the subconscious mind become awake. And what we then tell him and if we told him the same narrative that we did, while his eyes are open, he will be more willing, over a couple of sessions or more sessions, to actually for the body to accept the fact that smoking is not good for him. Okay. And then that results in him
from within, deciding that I'm no longer going to smoke. Yeah, absolutely. And what is what that builds up is the willpower, the willpower is strengthened. So Pamela, you know, I mean, most of us watch TV. Okay, most of us have got a TV and as soon as possible as soon as you start watching TV, your brain enters that meditative state as well
as a trainee, so Exactly. And this is why they say that the effects of television are so harmful
because of the fact that as soon as you as soon as you watch watching the screen, you don't know what subliminal messages are being passed through behind the screen. And our mind is oblivious to that our conscious mind does not see that. yet. The subconscious mind picks up on everything that is being thrown at us.
With regards to hypnotherapy and compare it to television, hypnotherapy is very common. The normal hypnotherapy that people associated with his the stage hypnosis, where you know they they bring people on stage and they fix them up to a certain extent. And then they make them do all funny tricks. Yeah.
And that unfortunately is not what normal hypnotherapy is about. The stage hypnosis takes much longer and it needs a particular type of person upon whom suggestion is very easy.
So we have our code of ethics and everything else that we need to abide by and also from a Serie A point of view that you know, we have a responsibility. Yes, certain, I'm sure the responsibility is, is very, very great. As far as the aspect of sedation and the influence that the hypnotherapist could have on the patient
in Pleasantville, I'm going to take this opportunity to welcome our listeners once again on the program. My name is Janine Pelosi, my guest this morning is Professor Hale garage. He is
a clinical hypnotherapist and his profession in complementary health, handling. And brothers.
speaking to us today about emotional well being, particularly people who have faced traumas and difficulties, one of the discussions that we had was so heavy in in planning the program was South Africa is rife with crime. And many people, almost every person is a victim of crime, whether it's just a handbag snatching, or your car has been broken into or a house burglary, or even worse than that hold up, and many times murder as well. And so many people have faced this trauma, you perhaps are dealing with it, you may have been to a counselor, Professor Hale
is a professional in this particular field, to be able to assist you in overcoming this type of trauma. And we're going to be discussing that in seminars is what we'd like the listeners to do is just after the 1130 break, you can call in. And if you'd like to ask for any advice in this regard, now to overcome trauma, particularly with yourself, and more especially so with your children, and loved ones. And brothers, they will be offering that as advice as well. But you need to call him and maybe present some scenarios to him. And he can assist you in that regard. The number to call is zero double 18541548 persuaders before we go for the break, what other services do you offer in
terms of counseling, therapy, marriage counseling, etc. We provide all of the above because once we have this certain skill set, and all the therapies under the belt, then it's a matter of tailoring it according to what the people actually need. And one of the things I mean, you know, marriage counseling is so so needed. And I'm sure brother Idris as well, Mashallah, he does a lot of work on that. But you know, getting two people back together, and this is where emotional therapies actually helps a lot. Because there are times when people come to the end of their tether, and they can't take anything more than a woman can take another single word out of the husband's mouth. And what
emotional therapies help to do is to desensitize that that intensity of emotion it is submerges that that hose fire, it distinguishes it. And it has seen in many scenarios where I've sat with with couples that you know, it has prolonged that that marriage because they are not snapping at each other anymore. And once the once the mind has calmed down, then you can actually begin a rational conversation between people.
And this is something that's very important that I think counselors need to incorporate within their work. That's not just talking talking, talking, talking doesn't always get to the to the to the bottom of the problem. So whenever we can remove vast amounts of emotional baggage and men backlog, then we allow the energies to flow better inshallah and allow for these people then to make up in a better way.
So it seems to be creating beneficial beneficial the services that you offer in reconciling marriages as well. is
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Welcome back to mushrik on 25 to 12. My guest for today in state of Florida it is Felisa is Professor Hill garage. He was speaking to us from Birmingham in the UK as a clinical hypnotherapist and he does counseling therapy manage meditation, mediation, study trauma counseling, energy healing and hijama.
presser here speaking about Fujiyama capital G, go a little bit into that the benefits of capping Mashallah hiyama is one of the Forgotten as soon as that is that has been taught to us by the prophet sallallahu Sallam Alhamdulillah in the UK now we are seeing a massive, massive revival of this summer. And it's amazing. The masala Salaam in many of hardy
has told us that, you know, surely within the JAMA is a show for you. And, you know some of them or the rest of them said that indeed the best of remedies you have is the JAMA and this isn't al Bukhari there's another hubiese which says that if there was something excellent should be used as a remedy then it is a Jama This is an imager.
There was another Hadith the prophet of Islam said that healing is in three things in the incision of the copper in drinking honey and in cauterization for the cauterization has now been banned. So he says there's a lot of studies and even on on the on the Mirage the Prophet sallallahu Sallam said that I did not pass an angel, except that it reminded me to tell my oma about cupping. So cupping is a therapy whereby we apply cups to the body. And from that we make small incisions into the skin, allowing the dead and congeal
Blood should be removed together with the toxins. And I'll have the red light house with a lot of pain. It helps with a lot of physical and emotional conditions as well. I personally had suffered from hay fever for many, many years. And it was this that led me to the JAMA and to learn about JAMA, and I went with that intention that I said, I want to fulfill a sauna. So I chose the day now his arm is done, as recommended by the seminar on the 17th 19th and 21st of each lunar month. And I went with that intention on the 17th and I had my cupping done and I and I said Oh Allah, I'm performing the Sunnah. And through this, I asked for the Baraka that my hay fever is removed and
Alhamdulillah from the next day that he was gone
with the intention of putting your trust in Allah subhana wa Tada. Definitely following this window, he is benefits all the way and 100 in law. Yes. And this is what people need to come to realize that it is only through the summer of the Prophet salallahu alaihe salam will we attain a level of well being within our lives?
But when people move away from the center, then this is where all the troubles and all this anguish follows with us.
So there's a lot there's a lot to be understood with regards to how the Rasul Allah Allah Islam lived his life. And he came as a Shiva for the hearts of people.
Coming coming back to the workshops and the other work that you do,
you are going to be visiting South Africa in some houses. Tell us tell us about your visit to South Africa. What's it going to be about in May I will be hosting workshops. inshallah, what I do, I was in Cape Town last year in March, and I come and I teach a series of workshops, one workshop is on the concept of natural energy healing. And the second one is, more importantly, the emotional healing. So put the two together and Mashallah you get people who become qualified as practitioners in the ability to actually do some healing, and not only for themselves and their families but inshallah into the wider community at a grassroots level. Last year, I was in Cape Town in March,
where we did the workshop, we had about nearly 30 people join the workshop. This year again, inshallah, on the 13th 14th and 15th of March, I will be in Cape Town. And then the following weekend on the 20th 21st and the 22nd of March, I'm going to be in Johannesburg.
And then the following weekend, inshallah, I'm going to be in Gaborone. So we're doing a South African mini tour and going around to the main cities, teaching people that are interested in this line of work, want to help themselves and to to actually help the community inshallah, that we are training the trainers.
Okay, Mashallah. So, just give us a just one more, one more time for the benefit of our listeners want to take down the workshops that you're going to be hosting, inshallah, the workshop that we're holding, there is a two day natural energy healing workshop, followed by a one day emotional healing workshop, all these workshops are certified by the way, Mashallah, we'll be in Cape Town for the workshops on the 13th 14th and 15th of March and inshallah in Johannesburg on the 20th 21st and 22nd of March, and then inshallah in Gaborone the following week, which is the 28th 29th or 27 2029 inshallah,
but also in Johannesburg, I'm gonna be in Johannesburg from the 17th of March, inshallah got three evening programs with Raja Idris, we're going to be hosting it together. And we're going to be discussing stress and anxiety from a faith based perspective.
Okay, so that's such interesting workshops that you're going to be having you here in South Africa, I'm going to be doing any private sessions. And if I am going to be available inshallah, while I'm in Johannesburg, so something can be arranged if people contact me directly, and then we can slot it in the diary.
As well, I'm certainly interested in in what you have to offer, particularly the hijama also the hypnotherapy as well and maybe we can take benefit from that inshallah, as is yes.
You know, I've heard
things like Body Talk, and things like that energy healing.
Can you can you explain to us what that is all about? Okay, energy healing is quite a vast topic, and
There is a lot of doubt with regards to how much of it is actually halal. And unfortunately, we see a lot of Muslims falling into a lot of different energy meridian therapies as they are called, that are doubtful in in their nature, depending on the way it is actually taught and what sacrifices and requirements are needed on behalf of the person learning it. So what I've done is I've studied under the guidance of many scholars to ensure that the practices that we use are not in any way contradictory to the Sharia and the Sunnah, then also, energy healing is actually a natural form of healing, that every person within themselves carries the innate ability for themselves to be able to
heal themselves and to actually help other people to heal as well. And the classic example is a mother to his child. So whenever the child falls over, you know, the natural instinct is to run up, and to put your hands upon that part that is hurt itself. It can be the knee, the arm, the head, whatever it may be. And through that, the child finds comfort. And it's through that love of the mother or the father towards the child or to a loved one that allows an exchange of energy.
And as you know that we all have an aura, we all have an aura. And what happens with that aura is that it affects the people that are in our vicinity.
So it's a natural thing. And again, what what I teach is, I teach people how to become aware of their breath, you know, when a person starts to breathe in there in the proper way, in the way that you know, we'd have to take a nice deep breath in and out again, then that in itself allows the body enough oxygen to start healing itself. Because the body converts that oxygen into energy to one heal itself, but then any excess energy as well is then passed out from your body through your hands.
So BodyTalk I've actually looked into I've had a look at body talks, and this is very interesting, because you know how a lie detector test works? Yes. Yeah. So whenever you you tell someone that you know, is your name, john? And they say yes, but it's not. There is a certain chemical in the brain that is released when a person is lying.
And Subhanallah you noticed this when we read the Quran, when we read Quran, our bodies naturally swayed, you would have noticed that
yes, and within that motion, it is all to do with a positive motion or a negative motion depending on the if that is being read.
And it has a particular vibration. Every you know, Allah says in the Quran, or a Chilean Quran, Athena, that you know when you when you when you recite Quran recited in rhythmic measured tones and Subhana Allah
the Quran, when we when we vocalize it, it is found it is energy that has an effect upon every cell of our body.
Right? And in the same way Body Talk what what they've what they've managed to find out is when we asked a question to the person that have you got diabetes, for example, the body will respond with a yes or no answer. But it is for the practitioner then to be able to see by the movement of the body is the body is saying yes, or body's saying no
So Allah has given us a lot, and just under our noses, but because of the lack of knowledge, we we start to brandish everything else, you know, impermissible and I think we have to become a little bit more open minded because a lot of our sci fi is within our own beings.
Certainly will appeal to fi and for sicoma fanatical surrender is
about the the signs of Allah subhanaw taala that in the horizons and within yourselves, so many signs of the creeping CMS mahanagara and most of them most of the signs molana inside
we don't have to look that far.
Yes, we, we we tend to overlook these these little things and I'm sure by going into this type of research and understanding of the human body and the responses of the human body. It certainly increases your your fee and your Eman And Allah subhanaw taala as well. Absolutely. And and when it comes to you know, it manifests the the sayings of the Prophet sallallahu Sallam in such a beautiful way as one
person appreciates some number
Okay, let's let's look at Likud emotion that was that was energy healing, emotional healing people getting affected by emotional healing. You know this is
the great problem of the centuries is stress and anxiety and because of the stress that we go through an end
No matter where we are, we all goes through a certain degree of stress. And the stress then affects our body functions causing diseases, etc. Let's, let's look at that. Okay, this is an interesting statistic
95% of all illnesses are caused by stress 95% of all illnesses. So you got your diabetes IBT you got cholesterol you got everything under the sun is caused by stress. And 98% of stress is caused by wrong beliefs.
Which is massive. Okay, we stress ourselves out and generally on living, not within the present, but we either live in the past because some harm has fallen upon us. And on the other side, we are looking into the future. And we're saying what if? What if, what if, what if, what if this happens, what if that happens,
so we are not living within within ourselves, we are we are not living and making the most of the time. So this is why we end up adding a lot of stress to our lives, we don't know how to manage this. A lot of the times we become enraged. And that rage in itself, the vasila Salaam said that anger is from fire. And people that swallow anger over a period of time, what happens if you were to if you were to swallow fire, it enrages, and it causes the blood to boil. But if the blood is boiling, then at the same time, it is heating up your body, which again is not healthy for your body.
So one of the things is, you know, arthritis give you this as an example. arthritis is an inflamed emotion that has been compounded over a period of time.
And this is how people if you were to go back and and analyze their whole life and see when their arthritis actually started, he will find out that there was a period of stress or there was a period of worry, where there was some anger in blocked and the anger has become absorbed into the body
causing an inflamed emotion.
Right, right, right. And
so this emotions that we experience, actually, permeate is not just a mental thing of thought, potentially permeates into our body. And then it manifests itself in different types of illnesses. Absolutely, I mean, anything, the illnesses, and the aches, and the pains and the swellings are a way of the body telling you that a wake up something is wrong. So this output is out now. And this is why the purpose of a lot is told us that control your anger, okay, he didn't say swallow your anger, I said control it, learn how to manage it. Because over a period of time we are swallowing anger or being angered, angry, being irritated and stressed out all the time is you know, contrary
to our health.
It affects us in in such such harmful ways that we will only see in time to come. And this is where for example, you see people have aches and pains. They go for MRI scans, they go for x rays, and Subhanallah they are told that,
oh, there's nothing the X rays are clear. So suddenly now there's a big question mark on the head? Well, I think it might be gene, it might be magic. So then they go to the soothsayers, and so says what are the VII? Well, it must be done. So again, you know, a lot of money is lost, a lot of time is lost in this. And unfortunately, the the end result of such situations is that a man is lost in many cases.
And this is where if our people were a little bit more clued on with regards to you know, what is available in the wider spectrum. Then before running, and you know, blaming the gyms and all the rest of it, maybe we should look and say, Hey, it must be an emotional issue. I've added some slides, I've had a tough upbringing or a tough childhood. And the matters can be resolved very quickly and at a much cheaper rate.
But for some reason, we we choose not to look down that side.
Yes, yes, yes. And I know this is a problem that is happening worldwide as much as you know, on our side and your side, or in India, in Pakistan, it is happening in every corner of the world.
People live by superstition, unfortunately.
And this just goes to perpetuate this myth of superstition and people jumping to conclusions, suspicions and all of those types of things. Yeah. And while people can play on people's fear then the making money
people's what you call fungibility to to the disadvantage. Yep, definitely.
And this is this is what the problem isn't that that inshallah and this is the purpose of these workshops is to educate people is to educate people that you know, inshallah, look, we are going to, we're going to show you what else there is. 100 Allah, the purpose of Islam.
As well as to ensure that everything remains within this area. And the sooner that lines and lines are not crossed in that way. Yes, yes, yes.
Just a second while we remind our listeners please call on zero double 18541548, our engineers, sama and Reza to fail waiting your call in some houses we can, can speak to buzzes wave and many different aspects of what we actually invited the listeners to speak about was the trauma that they face, or they have experienced because of different crimes that they have become victims of fascicular offer some advice to them in this regard. So Pamela, one of the one of the things about trauma is that whenever we face a situation, the body has three responses either it's a fight that we fight back, the problem that's actually in front of us. So we flight, which is we run away, for
the third one is freeze. And this is this is very typical. This is very typical. Now what happens is that the body freezes in that situation, when for example, a gun is placed to the head or you know, a handbag this national phone is snatched for a burglary is taking place while you're in a lying in bed. And Panama the body freezes. And normally what happens within the freeze is that the nerves stop sending the signals to the to the body. And normally after a trauma, certain parts of the body remain frozen. And in order to have effective
response to this sort of a trauma is actually to have a as a face to face. You know, consultation. And as humbler, we do a lot of work on Skype. So you know, we're able to connect with people on Skype service, we can see them face to face and see the reactions from their body language about what is actually happening when we ask certain questions. And the main thing there also is for people to be able to learn how to grieve.
Normally people that are faced with trauma have built up this whole level of anxiety within themselves. And one of the best things that they can actually do is revert back to nature. You know, take time and go to the greenery go to the fields, go to the lakes, and sit there and contemplate and meditate and allow and ask Allah to allow this this emotion that has become stuck in your body to be released through your feet. One of the blessings of Allah Subhana Allah, which I teach on the course is the concept of earthing yourself or grounding, that every time that your hands, your feet, your knees and your forehead such as the earth, now strong Look, this is the earth realize, we're
not talking about synthetic carpets made in China. Here we're talking about the earth, there is a healing that takes place because Allah subhanaw taala removes all these free radicals within our body and our body becomes neutralized.
So reverting back to nature, just looking at nature, breathing in listening to the sounds of nature, even amongst the birds, amongst the crickets, and everything else that goes on in the night. There is healing in you for that.
So breathing is one reverting back to nature. And then also becoming more aware within your body of what the feelings are and what the feelings aren't. If there are certain parts of your body that you are not connecting to, then through the power of your mind, we're able to switch these places back on.
So that's very, very interesting. And in I've received an SMS now as well from listeners is very sound knowledge being imparted by the guest and handle everything sounds so true and relevant. On trauma, we were told to speak about it as much as possible. And she may be referring to a hijacking incident. What about what about speaking about it as much as possible, you can you can speak but sometimes what happens is the person enters into a state of, I'm the victim, so I need more
So, you know, this is this is always you know, where people suddenly start to give that person more attention, then the intention of talking about it also is diverted.
So, it's always good to talk to those that you trust, but only certain amount of people by telling 1000 people will not really desensitize the person that much, they will gain a lot of that's such a shame or you poor thing. But beyond that, it doesn't really remove that stuck emotion from the body.
So we can talk there are certain uscar certain, you know, restoration of ions in the Quran, that that can help in that release. But again, it comes back down to that present to get that right sort of help. You know, in in the West, they're spending 10s of billions of dollars, trying to work out how to help people that are suffering from PTSD, which is Post Traumatic Stress Disorder from the wars and channelise it's it's it's a very difficult thing.
Simply by talking inshallah it helps to a certain extent, but it doesn't take it all the way.
Further save, we've we've got just a few minutes left I want you
to speak about
the yo yo workshop once again just to remind the listeners so that we can get a good turnout for your workshops. Just remind us what the dates and events is any prerequisites for attending the workshop. prerequisite is that you come with an open mind and you want to learn and to be able to help people the workshops in Johannesburg inshallah on the 20th 21st and the 22nd sorry 21st 22nd of March and inshallah we'll be there. I'm going to be in in Johannesburg from the 17th of March.
And on the 17th I've got a program in overs early school in Pretoria between seven and nine.
On Wednesday, I'm going to be at the Berkman Center in Bologna.
And on the Thursday, I'm going to be at the suffer Learning Institute, in Crosby inshallah with a brief
information session between seven and nine. Okay.
It's the end of our program now we appreciate your time and inshallah we could speak to you in future
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