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Got suppose I felt I was gonna die. I'm not exaggerating. I felt I was gonna die.
You guys doing get ready for another exciting episode my special guests. How are you Dr. Joseph grace. So how you been good, Eddie good. How have you been? I've been great. Thank God. Thank God, you're looking good. Thank you. Thank you, Gary. So I'm trying.
It's very important. I want to start off with a story
of a doctor. I want to Dr. Brogan I don't know if you've heard of Dr. Brogan. Dr. Brogan, why don't we do this? I want to, we're going to kind of get your feedback on what this doctor has to say he's going to go into our topic with we're going to be discussing sure so we'll watch it and we'll go We'll have a breakdown of it. How's that? Sure. But it's my belief that in this health climate if you don't access your inner compass, and if you do exactly what your doctor tells you to do, there are very good odds that you're going to spend a lot of your life sick.
And that's why we have to look behind the curtain. We have to look at the fact that Western medicine is killing us.
And we have to start considering that despite the fact that our doctors are probably very well intentioned people who put blood sweat and tears into their training, we have to start asking who is funding that training, because some of us are speaking out about the fact that our training and medical education are bought.
Unfortunately, in the balance between benefits and risks, it is an uncomfortable truth that most drugs do not work in most patients. So before I read this condemning quote in the British Medical Journal, I had already taken a very deep dive into ghostwritten, suppressed and manipulated data that essentially undermined all of gold standard practice in psychiatry and obstetrics, my specialties.
And even the Mayo Clinic begrudgingly agrees that 40% of practice should be discarded. But unfortunately, according to data, it takes 17 years for this science to trickle trickle into your doctor's hands. So this is how modern medicine is not refreshed, reflecting modern science. And by modern science, I mean concepts like the microbiome, like epigenetics, like toxic exposure, and like biochemical individuality.
We are still using a model that employs a one gene, one ill one pill system of understanding. And the problem is that this model is totally ill equipped to tell you as an individual, how you will react with regard to efficacy and safety to a given pharmaceutical intervention. This was a
health educator Jim Marlo had told me about this Dr. Brogan, she's also a student of I don't know if you've heard of the the Dr. Genius, Dr. Nicholas Gonzalez. Sure, yeah. She studied with him for some time. She's one of the A psychiatrists, psychologists, psychiatrists is the one that can prescribe drugs, right, as an MD or do yeah. And her story is that she used to prescribe a lot of drugs, a lot of drugs. And after some time, you know, she really like dwelled into the science behind it. And she saw there was no science. And then she started to really get into nutrition. And she started as she does, now, she started to make that a model. In her practice, now get this. This is a psychiatrist,
a medical doctor who's getting people off drugs, telling us that most of these drugs, psychotic drugs, make people psychotic. She's saying they, they're not effective, that 30% that are it's more of a placebo effect. And they're causing far more harm than good. What is a layman like myself, and many of us, many of the people out there, she's helping people get off depression, get off these drugs. And she's getting people into meditation, into nutrition, amongst other things, but the main thing is that she's trying to get them off drugs and and have a lifestyle shift, a lifestyle change, and she's warning people about, you know, watching this one, this this, this whole thing of the
there's a pill for every ill. You heard it, what do you have to say? What are your thoughts on that? Well, I mean, I'm, I totally agree wholeheartedly of everything that she's talking about. And you know,
My practice, I very rarely prescribed medications. And I think that it all starts in medical school, obviously, you know, we're all being taught pharmaceutical treatments, and surgical seat and a treatment. So it's all symptomatic medicine. And, you know, when you approach a patient from a symptomatic standpoint, and and you only have five to 10 minutes of an office visit spending with them, you're almost, you know, forced to, to prescribe them something because that's, you know, what they're looking for. And, and, you know, one of the reasons Osteopathic Medicine came about was really to help wake up the medical profession in that, you know, we need to treat our patients from
a place of health, and that we need to find the cause of what's happening with the patient. In order to do that. Number one, it takes time, you got to listen to the patient, you have to treat the patient first. And last time, we we spoke here, we did talk a little bit about that. And so you can't do that in a five to 10 minute office visit. And so if a physician, like myself goes to medical school, and our medical school is just like the allopathic or MD schools, we're taught the same medical stuff. If that's all we're taught, and we go into our residency program, and that's all we're taught, then that's all we're gonna do. Most of these physicians that come out of medical
school and residency is 99.9% of them, are relying on research articles, and publications to tell them what the standard of care is. And unfortunately, predominantly, those research articles are stimulated by the drug companies, it's about you know, a certain medication, drug, how's that gonna have an effect on a certain condition? In my case, and in the what I call traditional osteopathic medicine, we're taught not only medicine, and there is a time and a place for medicine, if you know how to use it appropriately. But we're also taught how to understand health and how to use our hands to treat our patients. But it's not manipulation. It's not some new age form of medicine, you have
to develop certain perceptual skills, tactile senses with the hands, but also perceptual skills with your mind. And it's similar to meditating and, and sensing certain things that is happening in the body. And for example, since we're talking so much about drugs, if a person is taking steroids, or narcotics, or antibiotics, or blood pressure medications, or or, you know, other types of pain medications, chemotherapy, for example, for for cancers, it has an effect on the body physiologically, we know that I mean, you look at the drug modules, and you see all the side effects, you can read a bottom, there's lists and lists of them. But if you develop perceptual
skills, and you place your hands on the patient, you can actually feel what those drugs are doing to people, you can feel it on a physical, physiological sense. But you could also feel what's happening to their psyche, how is a certain there, there are different parts to the human being. Most people are looking at the structure, the skin, the bones, the muscles, the ligaments, the organs, that's what we can see with our eyes. There are other functions that operate in your body and actually move through your body. There are functions that are fluid in nature, they're actually invisible. It's not the life force that we're talking about. The the key in Chinese medicine is there are
electromagnetic forces that actually are in the body, but also move through the skin. And if you get two patients, one taking drugs, and the other one who does, excuse me, doesn't take the drugs, and you put your hands on these people. And this is what we do. And we have students coming in the office, we train them to feel the difference between the two and what the drug is actually doing to that person. So it will have an effect on the on the bio electrical system, certain drugs, certain drugs will have an effect on the tissue or the physical system, and certain drugs will have an effect on the fluid part of the system. And so it's a it's kind of a difficult thing for me to
describe in words. It's much easier for me to
you know, demonstrate this with a student Some things are more demonstrations you can understand. Sure, sure. And, and you know, when I'm taking a patient off of medications, because very often, I'm getting patients in my office who are on drugs, and many of them and they want to come often, and they go see their other physicians and they say you know, you have to be on these drugs for the rest of your life. And they don't they don't accept that and they come to me and said, No, you don't have to be on these drugs for the rest.
Life. And here's how we're going to do it, I have to look at these different systems, the fluid, the tissue, the potency, we call it, or the bio electrical field, which helps me determine the level of health of the individual. And when it's the right time to wean the patient off of the medication, how much I can wean them off how long it's going to take me, and you know, how the patient is going to tolerate that. And because I went to medical school, I have the responsibility to deal with these drugs, I understand what they are, I'm not going to send someone to a non medical individual to take someone off medicine, they can't do it, then I'm the licensure. Yeah, I have the licensure for that.
And, and I'm comfortable dealing with all kinds of drugs, what's the success rate? If you from 100 people, you know, 1000 over the years 6070 80% for these people that have come in and they want to get off drugs? What's the success rate? Usually? Well, how many of them are able to do simple situation? Yeah, someone's on one drug 100%. No problem. You got a patient who's really sick, let's say they have kidney failure, or, or they have chronic liver disease, or, you know that blood pressure is sky high. And you know, they're not wanting to manage it properly, which means there's only so much I can do, if they're not following good nutrition. If they're not addressing other
issues that can cause disease. Like you talked with Dr. Garcia, in metals in the mouth. There's so many factors stress in their life, are they willing to make those changes? They have to be responsible for that I make every single patient in my practice responsible for their own health? Yeah, but I work with them. But that's the problem. Most people they want the magic pill Of course everything's you know, just going to be okay. I take this and now they see there's a lot of work that has to go on my head. Yeah, that's the only way it's gonna work. Yeah, there's no there's no free lunches. Exactly. One of my professors used to say, you have to work for you earn it try come
in again. You're black pill, there's no no magic. So you put in the blood, sweat and tears. We're gonna take a break. Dr. Joseph Grasso here on the Dean's show, don't go anywhere.
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Hey, Gemma, you are giving up bad blood of your body.
Back here on the D show with Dr. Joseph Grasso, now you've been practicing for is almost over 30 years, almost 2727 years, you have a lot of experience. What is it? I mean, you go to I asked this question to a neurologist and an oncologist, the family member diagnosed with cancer, you want to know what's causing this? What is the root cause? They kind of look at you like you're, you know, from another planet. It's like, Okay, if we can address the root cause my common sense is telling me and other experts, also holistic minded. Doctors are also looking for the root cause. But on this other side, I'm asking and I they look at you like you know, you're just kind of weird.
So why do you have this dilemma here? You have this paradigm total shift here from one end to the other. That's my next question is like, what when we talk to someone like yourself, someone who's more open minded, open to exploring and you're not just stuck by one model, you're not just blindfolded just to and chained up? as many I feel doctors are they just they don't want to look at anything else. What they've been told to believe that said, it's kind of like a you know, they're, it's kind of like their own religion in a sense.
Why is this and what does it mean when we say holistic? What does that what does that mean? Well, first of all, Eddie, the physicians don't have the tools to find the cause. And what I mean by that is they rely 100% on science. Okay, scientific studies, that what do they do, they are studying disease. And it's made diseases made to look like the enemy. And disease is not always the enemy. Disease is actually a very alive, functional process. And many times it's there to help the patient wake up and to help them really relook at their lives and make some changes. Okay. So going back to they don't have the tools
In order to find the cause, you have to synchronize with something else in the individual. And you have to spend time treating that individual, one office visit after the next. This is why Osteopathic Medicine in its most traditional sense. And I think, you know, indigenous cultures of the world practice like this as well, because they understand nature. And so if you get a virus, for example, there's no drug that kills a virus, they haven't figured that out, yet, they have drugs that can stop the replication of a virus that can slow it down, but they don't have anything that can kill it. And the things with viruses, they're so smart that they can mutate and change. But your
body has everything it needs to kill, and heal anything. Dr. Andrew Taylor still, who is the father of Osteopathic Medicine, he gave it its name. First of all, he said osteoporosis as old as the heavens, it's been around since time began. But he also said that the body was God's drugstore. He was a very spiritual man. And what he meant by that is, is the object of the physician is to find health, anyone can find disease, the system is so oriented on disease, how are they going to find the cause if they trying to suppress symptoms, sometimes the symptoms have to express themselves in order for the patient, to move to move on. And you have to help the patient to acknowledge that. So
one way that we're trained, and and I'm not saying it's as exclusive to osteopathic physicians, anyone who has any sense of, of intuition or instinct, can feel certain things, but to put them all together, they need to be adequately trained. Yeah. Okay. And that takes a long time.
But what we're given in terms of the tools is to feel health, and the health. It by definition is something that is in you, it's in me, it's in every living thing on this planet that cannot die. It can never be affected by disease, it can never be abused, it can never be used, it can never be manipulated, it's always there. And the first thing that we're trained to do from a traditional osteopathic perspective, when we place our hands on the patient even before that, first of all, we ask permission,
can we come in there and work with you. Second of all, we wait. It's like a meditation. It's like praying, you sit back, you wait a little while and all of a sudden, something opens up, it's a very spontaneous thing. And if you have the proper training, you can learn to do this fairly quickly. From one treatment to the next, you have to get a patient to that space first, before they can heal. And when you get to that space, the health rises, it just shows up, it's very difficult for me to put that into words, it's not some mystical thing. If anyone does any sense of meditation, and they feel something just shift and open up. This is what I'm talking about. We call it a neutral. It's
the first opening or doorway that has to happen in order for you to be clear, and for the patient to be moved by something that cannot die. And that's totally linked with the divine. Yeah. Okay, and and so when we get to that space, and going back to the tools that you need to find the cause, and what hole ism is, when you get to that space, it creates this blueprint. And on that blueprint, it says this is what we need to do with this patient for this day. And I'm telling you most of the time, it has nothing to do with they're complaining about, it's usually something else that's going on. It could be something simple, it could be something you know, really old, who knows, okay, until
you get there, you don't know. And from one treatment to the next that changes, yes. If you don't get to that space, you're never going to be able to find the cause. And today we got all these chronic diseases. Let's take chronic limes, for example. I see a lot of patients in my practice with chronic lines. If you take a history of these patients, they've had a lot of problems in their lives. And then all of a sudden, they get Lyme disease, they do the testing, they got three to five bands, and all of a sudden you got lines, that's why you have all these symptoms. Most of us could be exposed to limes, but we never get it because our immune systems are in order. Okay, everyone
else when they see something like this, they're gonna hit him pretty hard with with antibiotics, they're gonna and some patients get you know, psychiatric SQL and they're gonna be on antidepressants, and have neurological problems. It's it's a pretty significant issue and people are having problems with that and and some of these things need to be treated. However, you don't need to beat up the body and kill it even more. Okay, and so when I see these patients coming in and taking all these antibiotics, I work very
Hard to get them off the antibiotics and find a better way. What's your What's your opinion? When you mentioned antibiotics, I know, I know someone who he figured out that, Okay, look, I go to the doctor, he only sees me five minutes, he gives me antibiotics. He's got a family member is a medical doctor, he says, Hey, I could skip the line, I put down a box in my body, I feel better, I'll just make a phone call, I'll get the you know the signature. And I can avoid all this wait in line and I get that antibiotics quicker out. And I just keep taking antibiotics. Bad idea that doesn't vary. But for the big for the bad for the basic person who thinks, okay, I'm saving time antibiotics, I'm
going to heal, I'm good, I feel better. If you're very healthy, and you shouldn't get sick, you may have times where you're going to get sick. And if you do, shouldn't last one of the day to fit last longer than that. There's something going on. And most people when they might get the sinusitis or the pharyngitis, or their ear infections, they take the drug, but it comes back usually I thought it's like 14 days, or seven to 14 day common just depends on the condition. 10 days for pharyngitis could be about your average cold. Well, if it's a virus, I'm not going to prescribe it. But in the olden days, when I went through medical school, they were prescribing antibiotics for everything,
whether they thought it was a virus or not. Yeah, these days, there is a little bit more consciousness about the fact of what antibiotics are doing. So physicians are will wait, why is it a bad idea? You said it's a bad idea because you kill them. It's a double edged sword, you might be killing the bad bacteria, but you're killing the good stuff, too. And you're making the patient more susceptible to get further infections. And that's what happens, especially with kids. I mean, I get kids, you know, some of their you know, otitis media, you know, their eardrums pop, and mother sees pus and blood coming out of the year and they all freaking out. Okay, well, what do you think they
do when they put tubes in there, they break the eardrum and everything's, you know, leaking out, it's actually a good thing. That's a body's way of trying to protect the individual. You don't need to give antibiotics for that in the context of what I'm doing. If you're another quote holistic physician, who doesn't put the hands on the patient, and all they're doing is giving them supplements.
It's not as effective. Okay, because still, that's not whole ism. And of course, it's nine antibiotics. And the supplements, the herbs are much better than antibiotics, not going to hurt the patient, garlic, all that stuff is great, that falls into like, you know, treating symptoms. And you may need to do that. And I do that as well. But the reason why the patient, even if they have a simple sore throat, yeah, I won't treat them over the phone, is I want to know why they got sick, you're looking for the root cause I want the cause you want the root of the guy and I have to put my hands on the patient to figure that out. But the tumors in the brain, I'm asking the neurologists,
what's the root cause he sees like just genetic, what do you say is genetic? Well, you the doctor, he had talked about epigenetics, which means that your genes can change. And the example that I give my patients because it's pretty obvious. Fish became amphibians, because the environment caused stress on the fish, there wasn't as much water so they had to learn to live on land, well, your body, your body can do the same thing. And I tell my patients, you don't have to rely or worry about your family's genetics, you have to think about making them better, so that your offspring offspring gets stronger and stronger. And it carries itself on from what from one generation to the next, what
I'm seeing Eddie, in the last 27 years of my medical experience, even in the last 20 years, because of all the other toxicities that were being exposed to, is a weakening of the gene pool. I'm seeing more and more sick people, chronically sick people, and more and more challenges of treating those people. We can find a way to get them healthy. But again, you know, it's a combination of a lot of different things and holistic medicine is not giving herbs instead of
you know pharmaceutical drugs. Whole ism is treating the whole person whole looking fine. body and spirit. Uh huh. Okay, from head to toe, you talk to Dr. Grassi. We get a look at the mouth. I do a dental history sounds every natural way that sounds like you know what we call this common sense. Yeah, common sense. Also, that just is common sense. But over here, you need time to do it, but they don't do that over here. And nobody no one does it. Did you know I feel bad for physicians. I'm given some physicians credit okay, because I trained in this system.
A lot of these people have good hearts, okay, but they're subject to a system that forces them. They live in fear of practicing the standard of care. So someone comes in with a sore throat, they got to give you an antibiotic, okay. If they have high blood pressure, they have to give you a medicine now. If a patient comes into my office for
Peterlee with a blood pressure of 200 over 100. I'm gonna put him on something, I'll try something alternative. But if it's not working, this is why I went to medical school, I will prescribe something I will do the least as possible. And I talked to the patient, I look him in the eye and I say this is what we're doing. This is why we're doing it. And this is and we're going to get you off of this and but this is what you're going to have to do to get off this medicine. So I'm not fond of medications, but I'm not going to let a patient walk out my office and have a stroke. And then it's even worse. Okay, so I've seen medicine saved people's lives, and it works best in an emergency
situation. As far as healing. It's horrific. You mentioned you mentioned donors, your point there as horrific. You said, Dr. Brogan, and this is a She says her colleagues who are also you know, conventional doctors, they can't give her a hard time because they don't know most of them. They don't know the science before she became more holistic. And it's very rare to find a holistic psychiatrists, I, I think very few. And she's one of them. She says that we don't get told that most of the studies are not independent studies. And she talks about how there'll be like, let's say 99 studies that will fail. And then the pharmaceutical company, they'll be one that's like almost kinda
and they'll use that one. So what kind of science is that? That's like bought bogus, just junk science. What kind of science are you mining, finding whatever proof they can to justify, you know, a treatment regimen. And she said, That's Bob because the industry it's been it's been bought. It's like immunizations. It's a very classic issue because what's herd immunity. herd immunity is if we immunize 100 people, they're all going to be immunized. They're going to be resistant to whatever we say the measles. None of those people are supposed to get the measles if we immunized all of them. Well, we're lucky if we get 19 to 20% that are protected. Okay, this whole thing that happened in
Disneyland in California, half of those people weren't even immunized. Were immunized and they still got the measles. Okay, so the only way you get herd immunity is if you actually get the measles and you'll never get it again. They did. They was doing some I was watching some where they were showing like The Brady Bunch and you remember the Brady Bunch show? Of course.
They were showing episodes where it really wasn't a big deal. How are you sure it's the measles? Well, he certainly got all the symptoms. A slight temperature, a lot of dots and a great big smile. A great big smile. No school for a few days.
Did you call the doctor? I've been trying to honey, but the lines been busy. Well Say hello to my daughter and son for me. Tell him I'll bring him some comic books and I'll see you later. Okay, honey, by
golly, mothers are supposed to know everything. But do you have to keep proving it? You got a temperature too? What do you mean to? Well, Peter was sent home from school a little while ago. Oh, what was his temperature? 101.10 is that Oh, I'm 101.2 and you get right into bed. Dr. Porter is on the way over. Can I tell Peter he's a point behind me. I'm sure you'd appreciate your sympathy. Now intubate. Jan, we've got the measles. All four of us.
Boy, this is the life in this. If you have to get sick, she can't beat the measles. That's right. No medicine inside her out like shots. I mean, don't even mention shots. Yes.
Jan had chicken pox. And
Marsha and Cindy had moms there. Well, whichever doctor we choose, at least we'll have all the information on all the kids.
How long have you had that red spot on your cheek?
No one on your chin? Oh, no, don't tell me he's got the measles. Of course we can't be sure until he's had an examination.
Well, we're practicing together now. Which one of us do you want?
Well, I think in order to prove a point to the boys
Oh, he's got the measles and they're not like panicking and fear. You know, they're just they call the doctor he's like no big deal. It's like they went through it and then you you become stronger your immune system it comes strengthens isn't it? It wasn't like a life. Well, of course it does. I mean, there are some there are conditions I'm not gonna lie to you. There are there are childhood conditions that can you know, make kids really sick. You know, moms can cause orchitis you know, inflammation of the testicle and can render a child you know, infertile. So, these are extremely This is what it seems like it's so rare but the farm they can
capitalize off? And of course they do. Yes, they do. And this is why I practice the way I do, because if I get a child that comes into my office hasn't been vaccinated, and I have quite a few of these, the parents, that's what they choose to do. And they have measles, I put my hands on it, I treat them and another holistic physician, even if they don't use their hands, there are other things you can treat a virus with, like you said, garlic, for example, oil of oregano, there's a lot of different things, digestive enzymes, you know, for pain and inflammation, there are so many different things that you can utilize. But like I said, you know, the reason I went the route that I
did was because I wanted to be able to utilize everything possible, I didn't want to have any limitations at all. And the best way you're going to get a firm diagnosis is to put your hands on the patient, and sense health something in that patient, I cannot die. It's totally linked to something bigger. That's the only way you can do it. Like what you're saying before that the person that originated with this, there was a connection with the ultimate reality, the creator the joy, there was some connection there. And this is some sometimes I mean, this goes above and beyond, you know, empirical, I mean, the just observation what we see in field, that's one way science, but some
things that you just have to be holistic, like you're saying you have to not just be limited. And then over here being especially limited to to junk science is one thing, when it's real, independent studies in over here where it's funded by the people, the drug pushers, it might almost all the time, why? Why is there a drugstore on every corner? I'm trying to figure this one. So today, I'm not even gonna waste my breath. We have more people on drugs. But you mentioned earlier when we're talking, there's just more six people coming in. But then when Dr. Weston Price you heard
when he went and visited many of these indigenous communities, and these people, this brilliant doctor, he was a dentist, right? And then he just started studying their lifestyle, how they were eating and what you know, they weren't exposed to all the toxins and the food and how they ate. They dried it to them. Yeah, and their environment. And I tell my patients this i said before they had planes, trains, and automobiles, where Where's your genetic makeup from your Northern European descent think about what they had available to them. high protein, high fat diet, myself, I'm mostly Sicilian. You know, Mediterranean type diet, low fat, lots of fish, actually, I do very well on that
type of diet. So those there's a lot of credence and I tell people, the proof is in the pudding, we can tell you whatever we want. And I want the listeners to understand that, you know, I'm talking about putting your hands on patients and, and that they're, even if you don't put your hands on the patient, if you have some sense of faith and trust that that patient is going to get well. That's just as powerful to help your patients and as a psychologist, or psychiatrist, she's giving her patients the power to take that power back and and take a hold of their health and and find another way to do it. A lot of patients they don't, it's like they're not given the permission. They're told
that they can't do it. They have to be on these things for the rest of their lives. And they're talking to a very well educated physician. So they believe them that blocks the healing does watch it. I've read a tremendous work the power of the mind, where if you really truly believe this actually helps with the healing. Sure. Sure. And then if you have an open heart and you really have compassion for people, and you've truly want to help them the right way. Yeah. Not just the to suspend these symptoms. Okay. There's so much more you can do for people, you can truly help them heal. But we've got a couple more few more minutes of flu shots. Winters will be coming around, show
everywhere in anywhere flu shots. I mean, you go to Sam's Club, they got flu shots. I don't I don't endorse it. Why? Why I read an article
on as a Navy, a navy ship that
you know, servicemen? Yeah, had the flu shot. And 80% of people on the boat got the flu. Mm hmm. Okay, yeah. So that tells you how efficacious it is. And there are studies that showed it might work about 15 to 19% of the time. Uh huh. So how about there's a shot? I don't know if you've heard of the Hodge. It's one of the fifth Pillars of Islam where you go to Mecca first. This is where Muslims go to. And there's a shot that's recommended. I had to take it. Okay. It's the meningitis shot. Sure. I don't know if you know much about it. Yeah. Oh, never been okay. I take the minutes. Yeah, it's one of the requirements to go to house so I go, I go take the shot. I never you can't be
exempted from that.
We there are laws in the state. Yeah, but let me tell you what happened now. I don't you know how you remember certain significant things in your life is supposed to prevent you from meningitis. You can see, I never been so sick in my life I got so I felt I was gonna die. I'm not exaggerating, I felt I was gonna die. When I get it. I'll say, I'll tell you what,
Tom, they're all the same. You know, I, the last time I took I got one of those shots. And I was a senior in medical school and I was working with a physician. And he convinced me somehow I just didn't know any better. Yeah, he gave me the flu shot. The last time I got seriously ill. And when I'm saying for me, I mean, if I get sick, I'm done within a day. Yeah, maybe two. Okay. I'm feeling fine. I'm still working. I don't take any time out of work. When I'm sick. I still feel okay. But I was I was, you know, coughing up blood I had, I felt like I had full blown pneumonia. From the from that. Yeah. And it lasted for about a week. That was very unusual for me, man. So I don't know what
was going on in my head at the time. But But I did you know, I did that. But I just don't do it. Yeah. So so there are you mentioned some exceptions? tremendous. I've seen a lot of vaccine related side effects. No, you said exempt. So you can take the state? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I have a lot of patients who have to sign religious exemptions. Okay. There's, they have to explain why a lot of the patients, because a lot of these vaccines, they use human DNA. Yeah. And so they write that you know, that they're against all of that stuff. So I think one last thing I want to finish off with, well, no matter what you do you decide to put these toxins in your body. Whatever the case, I think
this makes sense to me, that it's informed. This is a thing that many doctors have gone away from, kind of what is it called in it's called informed consent, that you're informing the patient of all the potential harms that can come? now trying to sugarcoat all there's no problems. But if you look at the insert, you see all of the side effects. Informed consent. How important is that? Let's finish with that all patients need to know what they're getting. Yeah, I mean, when you have a surgery, you have to sign all these forms all the potential of you know, dangerous, what can happen. It's the same thing with drugs, but physicians don't tell their patients. Sometimes the pharmacist
will tell the patient, they're actually a lot more informative.
Going back to the vaccines, I have some colleagues on California because you know, when this whole thing happened with the measles, they mandated vaccines in California, and there's a there's a network called physicians for informed consent. And they they started this whole huge coalition with, you know, scientific data to fight this law. And they're actually changing it. Because of that. Yeah. So it whatever you do, is that right? get informed, get educated need to get informed, you need to know what you're taking, yeah, you need to know the potential side effects. If I prescribe a medicine, I look it up. And I show the patient. I said that this is the one that I
think's the least. And when I'm saying if I prescribe something, most of stuff that I'm going to prescribe it probably blood pressure medicine, because some people just did not control. And that's rare. When I'm saying when I prescribe it, it could be four or five times a year. Forget antibiotics. I'm not doing any of that. Yeah, it's not necessary. So but yes, be informed and choose your physicians. Well, thank you so much for being with us again. So if people want to come visit us say hello, read your book, you have anything any way we might have holding out, I have a book, I don't even have a website, but you talk to my wife, Dr. gushy ish. There's a little bit about me on
the website. Just Google my name you'll find you'll find some info. Thank you. God bless you. Thank you so much.
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