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Bilal Philips

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Dr Bilal Philips talks about issues pertaining to halal labels at Pertubuhan Al-Khaadem, 2016.

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Alhamdulillah wa salatu salam ala rasulillah All praise is due to a law in my last piece of blessings when the last prophet muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa sallam

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the topic

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Hello labels, clarity,

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or insanity

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was for me a bit of a

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surprise.

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I didn't choose the topic was chosen for me.

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But

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it's a topic in from another perspective which

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I have spoken about on a number of different occasions

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addressing different aspects of the same topic.

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The issue of halal and haram

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today,

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in virtually all of the stores that I've been here in Malaysia, I'm seeing the halaal label and everything you know, from socks,

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to shoes, shirts,

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is become very popular to put that label on it. Actually.

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I began about two years ago, a program of intense or Intensive English

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It was called the help program ah being halaal English language program. So I'm guilty of putting the halaal label there too. Because of course, people would always ask me well is there are haraam English? Yes, there's haram English out there, you know. So reality, of course, is that

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Islam does judge everything in terms of halal and haram.

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Though when we're using these terms, we're usually talking about food products. This is where we're commonly using it. But in fact, the term halal and haram is basic to our Sharia to our

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Islamic law in governing everything on the basis of five principles.

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These five principles, four of them come under the category of halaal, and one under the category of

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the four which are halaal. I'm sure you've all heard about them.

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The first is wajib

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or sometimes called fahrrad.

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The second is, was the hub

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also called mundu.

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Also called Suna

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The third is move on

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and the fourth is mcru.

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All of these are under the general heading of halaal.

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They represent what is obligatory, what has been commanded by a lion is messenger,

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what has been recommended,

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what has not been commanded, recommended, disliked or forbidden, but remain in a neutral category.

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You can do it or not do it. No problem. There's no reward. It's just a neutral category. And then there is my crew

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that which is disliked dislike, not because the Prophet sallallahu wasallam personally disliked it, because there are things which he disliked, which are not considered to be mcru.

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They were disliked because Allah had instructed the messenger. So now it's Allah

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To inform the oma that these were among the things that would be better not done.

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In fact, you are rewarded if you don't do them.

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But there is no sin on you, if you did.

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Okay, so from a reward and sin or punishment perspective, we can say the fraud is obligatory, if you do it, you are rewarded, if you don't do it, you are in sin.

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The second most the hub,

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if you do it, you are rewarded, if you don't do it, there is no set

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MOBA if you do or you don't do it, zero, nothing

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for or against you.

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But every MOBA thing could be turned into something which is rewardable

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and it is something which could be done in such a way that it becomes sinful

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depending on intentions,

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when when you do it, how you do it, where you do it, you know, it can shift that category, that neutral category into something which is in fact disliked, or

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forbidden,

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etc.

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And then the last category, which is not from the hell is that?

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It is what has been forbidden by Allah and His messenger.

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Forbidden because there is harm in it.

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Not forbidden just to make life difficult for us.

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Because this is how it is sort of presented by some in Islam. You hear people saying, in Islam, everything's Haram. Everywhere Your turn is haram Haram is just haram Haram.

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But it's not true at all.

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What is haram? What is forbidden is a fraction.

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A fraction

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what is halal is huge.

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So you find in the Quran, that when Allah talks about the Haram things,

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or the prophets of Salaam, he speaks about the Haram things. He identifies them specifically.

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Whereas when he talks about the halaal, when a law talks or talks, he would, they will say everything other than that.

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Huge, everything other than that.

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It's

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just like the Garden of Eden.

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In the garden, there were many trees. It wasn't just one tree in the garden. And the law said don't eat from that tree. The garden was filled with trees, but only one tree was specified not to be eaten. And that is the symbol

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or symbolism of halaal and

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symbolism of halaal.

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The harem is only a fraction.

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Whereas the halaal is

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many, for every haram thing. There are 1000s of halaal thing.

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The only problem is Satan is busy.

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And Satan will whisper in your ear as he whispered in the ear of Adam.

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You know that tree

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which our Lord told you not to eat.

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It is the tree of eternal life.

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He gave it a name. I never called it the tree of eternal life.

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A lot never call it I just said don't eat from that tree. He didn't give it a name. Satan gave it a name

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and attractive name.

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And he called it the tree of eternal life.

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Now, Adam, up until that point, he hadn't even been thinking about eternal life and, you know

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and a life which would end

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He wasn't thinking about that. That was not in his thinking processes.

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Oh, Satan put that thing in.

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So, of course, everybody would like to live forever.

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And Satan further enhanced it to say that if you eat from it, you will be like the angels

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never die.

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So,

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Adam is now of course, afraid, afraid to die. So now he feels, he must eat from that tree. This is a tree that the Lord told him in the very beginning do not eat from it. And he was fine eating from all the other trees, he and I and

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but now, he is now impelled

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to eat from that tree.

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The modern example of that for us

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is Riba.

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This is not food again. But we all know rebuys haram

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Riba is haram,

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forbidden.

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In English, Old English, it was called usury.

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usury

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and usury doesn't sound nice

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usury.

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So at the appropriate time,

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along came Satan, again,

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to people to tell them that we don't need to call it usury anymore.

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We need to call it interest.

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Now interest sounds nice.

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Something is interesting.

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It is in your interest to do this.

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That's very attractive. Now. Everybody wants to do what's interesting and in your interest.

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So now

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the whole world

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is drowning in interest.

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After a time you go back, you know, 500 years 600 years,

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then

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interest was forbidden. The only people who are dealing with it? What did you?

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And did you were actually told in their book.

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In the Torah, they were told not to take interest.

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Allah told them don't take interest.

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But as the law said,

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they change the book with their own hands.

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So the text which says, Do not take interest

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was modified to say, Do not take interest from your brethren.

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From your brethren, they inserted this term,

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do not take interest from your breath. Meaning what? You don't take interest from fellow Jews. They're your brethren.

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But for those who are not used,

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the name they use for the rest of us.

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We are the goyim do ye m

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it is permissible for you to take interest from the volume

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not from the Jews.

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But okay, from the guardian.

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They changed the book.

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But even though they were practicing it, they were doing it

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the rest of Europe

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they saw it as evil they understood from the commandments that it should not be done.

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So, you find stories written Shakespeare, you know The Merchant of Venice is about that evil Jewish moneylender

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wanting his pound of flesh

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so they were

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always looked down upon, they would be operating in the dark corners of the society in the ghettos and, you know, they would stay out of people's way. Eventually, they were able to come to the forefront. When the King of England ran out of money, he needed some money to broke away from from

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the Holy Roman Empire, broke ties with the pope created his own church, the Anglican Church, and he needed finance. Now he had broken away.

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The Jewish moneylenders came to him.

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And they made

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loans attractive because he needed the money. And the rest is history.

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The rest is history.

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So, the halal and haram

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are basic principles governing everything in Islam.

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As the prophet SAW Solomon said,

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world

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Hello is clear.

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And the haraam is clear. But he went on to say that between them, there are gray areas,

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which are confusing for most people.

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Whoever avoid the gray areas,

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has protected his honor, her honor, and their deeds and their religion.

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And whoever falls into the gray areas

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will eventually fall into hierarchy.

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And then they gave a simile that it was like

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shepherds grazing their sheep near the boundary of the ruler, the king has his area, which has a boundary.

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And the gray area is like that boundary. People who come close to it those who take the ship close to the boundary to eat because there's plenty other places to eat. But now when you go close to that boundary, eventually one will jump over and be in there. Maybe we'll get it back, another time one jumps over, you see nothing happens

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then another and then another and then all of a sudden you're over there grazing in the land

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that is the nature of human beings and human society.

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So,

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we understand when we look at the halaal

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that as I said, these were not arbitrary labels which are law put on things

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they have to do with what was beneficial

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and what was hot.

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We see that

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in 95% of what has been labeled Haram in Islam, when you look at 95% of what has been labeled Haram, you will see that it is harmful

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harmful to the majority of people

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their society, their families,

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their religion,

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their mind

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their health, one way or another it is harmful.

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So it is not an arbitrary level.

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There is a 5% that we cannot see the obvious harm.

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So when people speak about pork, of course there are issues and people raise things about pork, etc.

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You know, people think oh pork is nasty. It's this is that the other?

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Well,

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let me tell you that

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I as a non Muslim, ate pork

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and it tastes good.

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It was nasty.

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Maybe the pig on the farm

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is nasty. But when it comes as pork chops

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so obvious harm from pork

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is not

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evident, not clear. I know there are cases for IT people have read, you know, raised, you know, medical issues trichinosis and you know other things around it. But, you know, these are, you know, marginal things.

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They're not conclusive. I mean, they do show that the pork pig does seem to have a propensity to, to fail.

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But we can say that the harm is not clearly evident.

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Otherwise, you know, there would be more

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people giving up pork.

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Like they gave up cigarettes.

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Initially, the harm wasn't clear.

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Some people were speaking about it from early times.

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But eventually the body of scientific evidence built until there was no doubt that smoking was harmful.

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So for us as Muslims, it became,

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because whatever

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is harmful, from the Islamic perspective, going to harm you, then it becomes

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something we should avoid.

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Unless

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that harm produces a greater good

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that harm produces a greater good.

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For example, if somebody takes a needle,

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a big needle, and comes and sticks you with that needle?

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painful.

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You're gonna say, why, why doing that? Why are you sticking me with this needle? However, if you need a vaccination, you go to the doctor and say, Please stick me with that needle.

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Right?

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So we're not asking the doctor to stick us with the needle, like the pain. There are some people who do like it, right? Yeah, they're called moto kiss, right? People who like pain, that's not the average person. We don't like pain. So this sticking of the needle, we're tolerating it, because we believe that from it will come a greater good.

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But where there is no obvious greater good, then what is painful? What cause of suffering certainly consider these things to be. So

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on the basis of that, you know, we conclude assuming that

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this is a fact, in virtually all of the things that we see around us.

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That even that tree in the garden,

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a lot prohibited it. Because there was harm in it.

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The fact that we don't know cuz Some people say actually, the tree was

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something that says to Apple, but the others would say because of the harm, which came in the end from it, they think it was really

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opium

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or some other drug.

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You know, they tried to give it some other

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obviously,

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harmful qualities.

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The point for us is that a lot forbidden.

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Whether we know where the harm is, or we don't know where the harm is,

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we avoided we believe that the law is done. So for good reason. He has created all the things in this world, he knows what is useful, what is beneficial and what is harmful.

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So

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we deal with a lot of harm on that basis.

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Now

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in terms of

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products

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that we consume, because this is where the halaal label

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First showed up

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identifying the products, which were on the market.

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In earlier times, there was no need to put any brand, allow brands

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know, the Muslim world, we knew whoever killed the animals or Muslims and killed that according to Islamic way. And that was it.

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You bought from Muslims, Muslim community, wherever Muslims were, they would create some little slaughter area where they would slaughter the animals and on this side of themselves, within families, the males or sometimes unconscious female slaughter

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that had been going on for generations.

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But in modern times now, where

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the societies the role, roles of slaughtering, etc, are no longer in the hands of the individual. The way it was, in the past, some countries is still unanswered individual in many countries, especially in western countries, you know, people don't slaughter animals.

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People are far away from that whole slaughter process.

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In fact, they're so far that they consider the process of slaughter of animals as being something evil.

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You know, you have the Society for prevention of harm to animals. You know,

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it's a very big an active society in America. I mean, of course, it's focused primarily on cats and dogs, because these are the animals that people tend to have around themselves, mostly. And, you know, sometimes people become abusive with these animals. So they have this society for prevention.

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But that society, I know, in the States, and other Western countries, as society, you know, does reach into the areas of

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any kind of slot.

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So I remember there was a case a few years back,

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where front page news

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had a picture

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of the Moroccan in New York

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Police struggle, the police are holding him down. He's holding a chicken in his hand, and they're trying to get this chicken away from him. And

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they had caught him.

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His neighbors had observed him, you know, every weekend, bringing live chickens into his apartment.

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And he wasn't producing eggs.

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And the chickens were not coming back out again.

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So

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they would hear the chickens at certain points. squawking, you know, and then silence. So they said, you know, some terrible stuff going on during his apartment. So they called the police. They timed it, when they came back with this chicken to get to the house. And

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they timed it to the point where they know it's gonna slaughter you, does it record their times. So when he was about to slaughter, broken his door, police came rushing in and there he was, you know, with his chicken, you know, in the sink with his knife ready to cut the chicken. And they grabbed him and then finally took the picture.

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Muslim

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slaughtering animals

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department.

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And, of course, their view is that, you know, this is our method is so inhumane, you know, chicken and knife to the neck? Of

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course not most people have never been to a slaughterhouse what goes on in the house anyway.

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So

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but the point is that the methods of slaughter is no longer in the hands of the average person in the West.

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So now, it became an issue for Muslims. You know, where is this meat coming from? Who slaughtered it?

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So, initially, people tried to

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get some

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Muslims who would be would act like butchers, they would go to the slaughterhouse they would kill the animals and they bring it back for it.

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But when the community has got so big, it was no longer practical for them to be doing it anymore. So this issue of having a halau level became important.

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And you know, at the same time, it's just like the 70s going into 80s, this time, oil is found in the, in the Gulf. And, you know, they became now prominent to start to import, you know, animals from across the world, into the country countries growing at a faster rate, it became important for them to know where are these animals are coming from the slaughter animals, which are frozen or put in, you know, different formats, they're cooked. And

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so the halaal industry was born.

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Some countries, you know, soy in it,

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business, good opportunity, and

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the

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Malaysia became number one,

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they captured the market, they became basically the hub for the global hub for halal industry,

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in exporting pure Islamic products, to Muslim countries, to European countries, to West, Muslim communities, men in those countries, you know, as well as to China, these are the main three areas.

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And

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the

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technology

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was developed

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to be able to determine the products now.

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What were the contents? Where did these contents come from?

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Actually, the people people in the West, it was mainly people coming from India and Pakistan, who were very particular, you know, about wanting to know, where all of these elements, they had numbers, g three, three, x one and P that and why did these things come from so they started doing research and checking into it, you know, and then they start to write books, they put out these books with which in which exposed what all these numbers meant, you know, these ones which came from originally from pork products, and, you know, animals which were not slaughtered. islamically. And, you know, it reached a point where if you look at this book, basically, you couldn't buy anything,

00:32:45--> 00:32:53

you reach the point where you couldn't, it had a number, it had one of these numbers on it, you know, you could hardly eat anything in the supermarkets anymore.

00:32:56--> 00:32:57

The

00:32:59--> 00:33:13

technology, to be able to identify in the Gulf areas, they started to use it and to identify, you know, where poor products were coming from, where they were coming. And they,

00:33:15--> 00:33:20

they built up for the world.

00:33:22--> 00:33:25

And in this industry, which we call the halau. Industry.

00:33:27--> 00:33:30

Some people were not trained,

00:33:32--> 00:33:43

they just had an organization, they were the first one to get to the government, the government recognized them because they needed to get a sticker on these things. And they were giving stickers.

00:33:45--> 00:33:50

Some of them were scientists who were doing this other hand,

00:33:51--> 00:34:01

but they didn't really have in depth knowledge of shady art. So they were judging things merely on a chemical etc basis. And they were labeling also.

00:34:02--> 00:34:09

And then there were some more from Sharia basis, good, solid, Sharia backgrounds, etc. But they didn't have

00:34:11--> 00:34:28

science basis, biology, chemistry, etc. So they're just judging according to the obvious what is external, they couldn't really understand what is actually going on or processes are going on. And they know people have more trust in them

00:34:30--> 00:34:40

and their rulings. But eventually, it became clear that the rules were not accurate. You know, to some degree, there was accuracy, but then there were some areas that they really didn't know what was going on,

00:34:41--> 00:34:44

what chemical processes were going. So then

00:34:45--> 00:34:57

we started to find some courses being offered when they're trying to combine or they brought people from both sides to work together to be more effective in

00:34:59--> 00:34:59

labeling.

00:35:00--> 00:35:02

Hello, and

00:35:03--> 00:35:05

from the consumer products.

00:35:09--> 00:35:09

And

00:35:11--> 00:35:12

out of that

00:35:14--> 00:35:23

we have now on a global basis, the halaal. industry with labels now, which

00:35:24--> 00:35:33

don't seem to end now the labels of which are shoes and socks and in everything we seem to have, because it's no big business,

00:35:35--> 00:35:41

big business, I mean, they said basically, Muslims represent about 25% of the world

00:35:43--> 00:35:45

that in 2013,

00:35:47--> 00:35:52

The War of the World Food Market 17%, was

00:35:54--> 00:35:54

labeled.

00:35:57--> 00:35:57

And that

00:35:58--> 00:36:03

was basically $1.1 trillion.

00:36:05--> 00:36:14

You're talking about serious money here. And they expect by 2018 to be $1.6 trillion.

00:36:15--> 00:36:18

It's just growing in leaps and bounds.

00:36:19--> 00:36:29

And Hamdulillah, my university, the Islamic online university, we're in the process of developing a Bachelor's in halaal 13 certification course,

00:36:31--> 00:36:45

which will combine science and shediac. All graduates will need to know biochemistry they need to understand chemistry and biology and the processes in Iraq, as well as be grounded in the Sharia in the

00:36:47--> 00:37:17

cetera, to be able to make proper judgments. So we want to try to develop that because it's being done to some degree here. It's being done in Pakistan also, but the mass of the world they don't have access to this information. So they're just relying on the local malanez movies, you know, chefs, whatever, whatever they said whatever they thought so you have so many different ideas out there people contradicting each other, etc.

00:37:18--> 00:37:37

So we're also not from the perspective of trying to you know, rake in some more money you know, when I look into trying to make the money, that's where the money is no, because the the motto of the Islamic online university is changing the nation through education. So it's about educating the oma

00:37:38--> 00:37:40

not milking them.

00:37:42--> 00:37:44

Anyway, the

00:37:45--> 00:37:49

issues that might be worth looking at

00:37:51--> 00:37:55

where people commonly are confused,

00:38:00--> 00:38:03

they are the issues that have to do with

00:38:05--> 00:38:10

small amounts of harm in spoken about before

00:38:13--> 00:38:18

small amounts of haram material in

00:38:19--> 00:38:22

now, hello material we have alcohol,

00:38:23--> 00:38:24

we have blood,

00:38:26--> 00:38:27

meat, the pigs,

00:38:28--> 00:38:31

the meat of carnivorous animals, which have been forbidden

00:38:32--> 00:38:34

birds of prey, which are also forbidden

00:38:36--> 00:38:38

animals which die of themselves

00:38:40--> 00:38:46

we call them carcasses. So, any food product

00:38:47--> 00:38:50

or cosmetic product

00:38:51--> 00:38:59

which uses elements of this this is this these are considered to be the Haram areas for

00:39:01--> 00:39:01

consumption.

00:39:03--> 00:39:12

So, this comes up in the area the issue of food and it comes up also in the issue of cosmetics etc.

00:39:17--> 00:39:18

We have a general principle

00:39:19--> 00:39:21

that the prophet SAW Selim

00:39:23--> 00:39:23

clarified

00:39:26--> 00:39:38

that if water reaches a large amount to use the term Kunal attain scholars have not really been

00:39:39--> 00:39:46

you know clear on exactly what cool attain is but it is a large amount of water, a big vat of water

00:39:48--> 00:39:49

that

00:39:50--> 00:39:56

it will remain pure, even if Phil

00:39:57--> 00:39:58

is dropped.

00:40:02--> 00:40:03

This is a basic principle

00:40:04--> 00:40:06

from Sharia authentic it

00:40:07--> 00:40:18

some use also the Hadees that you know, if the color taste or smell of that water has not changed

00:40:20--> 00:40:37

then it remains pure, but if any of those characteristics change, then now, this is no longer considered to be water pure water anymore, which could be used for will do for consumption etc.

00:40:41--> 00:40:47

However, this Hadeeth which is used commonly is not authentic

00:40:50--> 00:40:55

color smell taste is not authentic, but scholars of

00:40:57--> 00:40:59

law they use it commonly

00:41:01--> 00:41:10

you find it used across the board anyway, the point is that the general principle is that large amounts of oil

00:41:11--> 00:41:15

are not affected by small amounts of

00:41:18--> 00:41:19

the general principle.

00:41:21--> 00:41:22

So,

00:41:24--> 00:41:26

the idea

00:41:27--> 00:41:32

that there may be in products

00:41:33--> 00:41:34

minute

00:41:36--> 00:41:38

quantities of

00:41:42--> 00:41:46

making the whole thing how long this idea in

00:41:47--> 00:41:49

Indian Pakistan this is

00:41:50--> 00:41:58

this is a way of thinking, the example they will give you is that if you have a glass of milk

00:41:59--> 00:42:02

and you take a an eyedropper

00:42:05--> 00:42:12

and with one drop, you drop one drop of urine in that glass of milk, Will you drink it?

00:42:16--> 00:42:18

Of course most people say oh,

00:42:19--> 00:42:20

no, I wouldn't drink it.

00:42:21--> 00:42:25

But this is not the basis for determining halala.

00:42:27--> 00:42:29

You wouldn't drink it but other people will drink it.

00:42:30--> 00:42:36

There are other people, they need milk they need to drink, they're gonna drink it. They don't it's not a problem.

00:42:37--> 00:42:38

But for the average person, yeah.

00:42:40--> 00:42:41

glass of water.

00:42:42--> 00:42:47

one drop of urine, you can't see it anymore. It's not completely gone. You can't see it.

00:42:49--> 00:42:52

The color didn't change smelling things change.

00:42:56--> 00:42:57

Okay,

00:42:58--> 00:42:58

you can deal with it.

00:43:00--> 00:43:01

That's personal.

00:43:05--> 00:43:09

We don't base the law on how you feel and how that one feels.

00:43:10--> 00:43:14

It's about principles of health.

00:43:17--> 00:43:20

So when we consider

00:43:22--> 00:43:30

as the province was clarified that fact of water not affected. Technically speaking, that glass is

00:43:32--> 00:43:37

not considered to have become haram by that one drop of urine.

00:43:40--> 00:43:41

Who would go and do that anyway.

00:43:43--> 00:43:48

But that's not the point. It's just the concept. It's not.

00:43:50--> 00:43:53

And that's the point that people need to get to.

00:43:55--> 00:44:00

Because if you're able to get to that, then life becomes so much easier.

00:44:03--> 00:44:11

If you're stuck on the other point, life becomes very difficult. You're walking a tightrope.

00:44:13--> 00:44:16

Does it have this number does it have that number does it have the

00:44:18--> 00:44:21

reality is that we're talking about molecules.

00:44:23--> 00:44:30

We're talking about molecules which are so small, that they really don't impact on the

00:44:32--> 00:44:33

majority

00:44:34--> 00:44:39

quantity of material which is Hello. That's the reality.

00:44:41--> 00:44:43

Now when it comes down to alcohol

00:44:45--> 00:44:47

the example that I give

00:44:51--> 00:44:53

from the prophet SAW Selim time

00:44:54--> 00:44:56

we know he told us

00:45:01--> 00:45:06

kulu skerin Cameroon vocal no hamrun kuno Cameron

00:45:08--> 00:45:10

every intoxicant.

00:45:11--> 00:45:18

Is calmer. We'll take that same label, this is the Islamic label for intoxicants

00:45:20--> 00:45:24

and all forms of Hummer

00:45:25--> 00:45:27

is forbidden.

00:45:30--> 00:45:35

And then he also said mascara Kathy row.

00:45:38--> 00:45:39

Peleliu.

00:45:41--> 00:45:45

What we'll intoxicate in

00:45:46--> 00:45:49

large amounts, small amounts of it

00:45:50--> 00:45:51

are Hello.

00:45:54--> 00:45:56

Okay, these are clear principles.

00:45:59--> 00:45:59

Now

00:46:02--> 00:46:04

we have on the marketplace

00:46:05--> 00:46:07

non alcoholic beer,

00:46:10--> 00:46:12

non alcoholic wine.

00:46:14--> 00:46:19

These were known to be intoxicants before. But now

00:46:21--> 00:46:31

for some segment of the society who wants to be able to pick up that blind glass with their non Muslim friends when they want they feel

00:46:32--> 00:46:35

at least, maybe they're drinking with their left hand.

00:46:38--> 00:46:39

They have that glass of

00:46:42--> 00:46:47

non alcoholic wine so they can partake of the wine along with their friends.

00:46:48--> 00:46:54

So there was a market for those who developed a taste for wine

00:46:56--> 00:46:57

and beer

00:46:59--> 00:47:04

common drinks, alcoholic drinks of the West. So the West say you like

00:47:06--> 00:47:09

but you can't drink it. Okay, we'll make a version of it that you can

00:47:11--> 00:47:15

dig industry now, non alcoholic beer and wine.

00:47:16--> 00:47:18

So, now, the question is

00:47:19--> 00:47:23

that so called non alcoholic beer and why

00:47:24--> 00:47:28

is it really zero alcohol?

00:47:30--> 00:47:38

Or is it you know, point 00 1% there is a percentage of alcohol there.

00:47:39--> 00:47:44

But this is what the others hold up as a calling is non alcoholic, but

00:47:45--> 00:47:51

there is point 01 or point 00 percentage of alcohol drinks. So,

00:47:55--> 00:47:57

what if we go back to the principal?

00:48:02--> 00:48:06

What will intoxicate you in large amounts

00:48:08--> 00:48:11

is forbidden in small amounts.

00:48:14--> 00:48:20

This is in reference to drinks and other products

00:48:22--> 00:48:24

that non alcoholic beer

00:48:26--> 00:48:28

if you drank a gallon

00:48:30--> 00:48:31

of it,

00:48:32--> 00:48:34

would you become intoxicated?

00:48:35--> 00:48:35

No.

00:48:36--> 00:48:37

He would not.

00:48:38--> 00:48:40

You would not be intoxicated,

00:48:41--> 00:48:49

you would end up killing yourself. Before you are able to become intoxicated in any way shape or form from it.

00:48:53--> 00:48:54

That's what would happen.

00:48:56--> 00:48:57

It will not intoxicate.

00:48:58--> 00:49:01

And in reality, in yogurt

00:49:04--> 00:49:12

and yogurt. If you go and check chemically, you will find there is a percentage of alcohol in yogurt.

00:49:17--> 00:49:17

Yogurt,

00:49:19--> 00:49:19

eating yogurt

00:49:25--> 00:49:27

and insoluble hearty.

00:49:29--> 00:49:31

The Sahaba came to the prophet SAW them

00:49:32--> 00:49:40

and he they asked him about the drink that they were drinking called Nabeel.

00:49:42--> 00:49:50

So they wanted him to give a ruling to this drink that they had labin was made from dates.

00:49:51--> 00:49:54

You know, the dates would be mashed up and

00:49:55--> 00:49:56

left in water

00:49:58--> 00:49:59

and after a day

00:50:00--> 00:50:02

Bubbles would start to form

00:50:03--> 00:50:06

after two days more bubbles would start to form

00:50:08--> 00:50:11

the first day it was like Sweetwater

00:50:12--> 00:50:16

second day, it was starting to be a little tiny

00:50:17--> 00:50:19

and by the third day

00:50:22--> 00:50:26

when you drank it, you would get a buzz as they say.

00:50:27--> 00:50:34

So, they brought it to the process and he said bring the drinks here. So, they brought it to him and he tasted them he said listen, okay,

00:50:36--> 00:50:37

the first day you can drink it,

00:50:39--> 00:50:41

second day, third day throw it

00:50:43--> 00:50:45

don't keep it for more than

00:50:47--> 00:50:50

two days, third day you have to get rid of it.

00:50:51--> 00:50:51

Now,

00:50:52--> 00:50:55

we know modern science

00:50:56--> 00:51:00

that from the time that the bubbles started

00:51:01--> 00:51:06

that is the sign of the fermentation process taking place

00:51:07--> 00:51:11

once fermentation starts to take place, what is produced

00:51:12--> 00:51:13

alcohol

00:51:16--> 00:51:17

that's reality.

00:51:19--> 00:51:20

So the province has

00:51:22--> 00:51:26

permitted the Sahaba to drink those drinks

00:51:28--> 00:51:30

after fermentation had started

00:51:32--> 00:51:43

for the first day, and the second by the third day when it reached the point where if they drank enough, they could get intoxicated, they told them get rid of it.

00:51:48--> 00:51:50

That is based on

00:51:52--> 00:51:53

the statements of the progress on

00:51:55--> 00:52:07

what we know of modern science, we know that the prophet SAW Selim had permitted them to drink those drinks even though some alcohol was present.

00:52:09--> 00:52:15

So what we understand from this is that when we talk about alcohol

00:52:17--> 00:52:18

we're talking about

00:52:20--> 00:52:34

the creation of alcohol which involves a distillation process by which the water is removed and only the pure alcohol alone is left that is really what is clearly forbidden.

00:52:35--> 00:52:37

Now if you have that

00:52:38--> 00:52:40

you sell it you produce it

00:52:41--> 00:52:47

you sell it is how you transport it is how you drink it is

00:52:48--> 00:52:54

all of those people who are involved in the process of making it they're all in

00:52:57--> 00:52:57

that

00:52:58--> 00:53:01

forbidden without a shadow of a doubt.

00:53:03--> 00:53:05

Anything else?

00:53:07--> 00:53:08

Which is not

00:53:10--> 00:53:17

alcohol it has not been it is not alcohol, it's produced your you have a variety of different drinks etc around the world.

00:53:20--> 00:53:21

Even coconut,

00:53:22--> 00:53:25

right? The coconut and I love coconut.

00:53:26--> 00:53:28

I was born under a coconut tree in Jamaica

00:53:31--> 00:53:32

even the coconut

00:53:34--> 00:53:35

you leave it for a few days

00:53:37--> 00:53:40

starts to get tiny. No my wife did you tend to

00:53:41--> 00:53:54

say no it's just the first day you know it's just started a few bubbles. I love my coconut I don't like to waste coconut water. So I still drink it anyway after the second day okay, not possible anymore. But

00:53:56--> 00:53:58

all of these other

00:54:01--> 00:54:10

drinks, beverages etc. Where the beverage itself is not an alcoholic beverage.

00:54:11--> 00:54:17

It is a beverage which you may have in it a minute quantity

00:54:19--> 00:54:23

according to the principles that relate

00:54:25--> 00:54:28

it is these are all permissible.

00:54:31--> 00:54:33

And the gene is easy

00:54:35--> 00:54:54

to do. We can make it complicated and fight over these molecules. You know, I mean, which now we call alcohol because alcohol is taken on a chemical name. Now, once you have the O h molecule, you know that's what is now called alcohol.

00:54:55--> 00:54:59

But there are some forms of this alcohol if you drink it, you'll go blind

00:55:00--> 00:55:25

You know, it's not, it's not drinkable, it's not gonna intoxicating will make you blind. Nobody has that oil molecule. It's called alcohol. So, you know, we don't need to pry into the fine details of each and everything. You know, when the woman in Medina, she offered the prophet SAW some, you know, some food, which had meat and stuff in it.

00:55:27--> 00:55:32

She's Jewish, he took it and ate it. He didn't ask her. How did you?

00:55:37--> 00:55:42

or What did you feed the animal? Yeah, some people go to the point of what they feed for the animal.

00:55:46--> 00:56:11

So we don't need when a law has said that the slaughter of the Christians and the Jews are allowed for us, we don't need to go into the kind of details that we have done. Of course, it's very good for the halal industry, they love the details. Because they become the experts in all these companies have to pay them so they can get that label. So they're making lots of money.

00:56:12--> 00:56:18

It's very financially rewarding. But to be fair,

00:56:19--> 00:56:32

we have gone overboard. And when you saw the halau sticker on socks, you know, really reached the end, you know, you can't get any further than that.

00:56:33--> 00:56:37

This is this is the reality of our time.

00:56:39--> 00:56:40

Allow industry.

00:56:43--> 00:56:44

So

00:56:45--> 00:56:59

my advice is, you know, whenever you come up with issues, you know, people say well, you know, in our cosmetics but here it comes now because cosmetics, because it becomes a comes into everything.

00:57:00--> 00:57:02

So the cosmetics which the women may use,

00:57:03--> 00:57:12

somebody has proven that it has, you know, some famous brands have some percentage of alcohol in it.

00:57:14--> 00:57:15

So

00:57:16--> 00:57:17

you can't use it anymore.

00:57:19--> 00:57:21

People ask me I get emails,

00:57:23--> 00:57:25

Facebook inquiries all the time about

00:57:29--> 00:57:31

if when you use this cosmetic,

00:57:32--> 00:57:34

you're not getting intoxicated.

00:57:36--> 00:57:36

Don't worry about it.

00:57:39--> 00:57:39

Don't worry about it.

00:57:41--> 00:57:48

You know there have some perfumes Of course, you do have to make this condition too. Because, you know, there are some perfumes

00:57:50--> 00:57:58

in the west where people can't get alcohol, they go and buy these perfumes and they can drink it and get it and get intoxicated with it.

00:58:00--> 00:58:31

It's not a very good high according to them, but it's still it gets them there, you know, but, so, there is this issue of intoxication. But otherwise the issue of alcohol, whether alcohol itself is legit. Something that scholars have discussed debated about, you know, because it's included in a category of other things which are not considered to be niches in and of themselves.

00:58:32--> 00:58:37

divining arrows which are used for fortune telling

00:58:38--> 00:58:40

these arrows are they themselves

00:58:45--> 00:59:01

gambling tools, I mentioned the crime in the Malcolm Merlyn, Mason All right, I mean, all these other instruments for gambling, these are not you know, cards or cards considered magic.

00:59:03--> 00:59:07

A lot of rich, rich family shape.

00:59:08--> 00:59:09

So

00:59:11--> 00:59:13

it is sufficient for us

00:59:14--> 00:59:15

to

00:59:16--> 00:59:18

avoid what is doubtful.

00:59:19--> 00:59:33

You know, if, after this explanation you still have your doubts, your read so many other things which says no, you can't do this. So you don't feel you know, comfortable anymore. You don't want to use these things in bed and you don't use it as opposed

00:59:35--> 00:59:43

to just leave it. But now the problem is, after you decided to leave it, leave it and your best friend wants to use it.

00:59:46--> 00:59:58

Then you're going to pester her and pester him and know beyond him all the time making life difficult for him to differentiate. He gives it up just to stop hearing from you know, we don't need to do that.

01:00:00--> 01:00:00

You know,

01:00:01--> 01:00:23

it's a personal choice you want to make is different. Some scholars with regards to it's not a clear point anymore what what you felt comfortable with, you know, then you can go with it. If you have a doubt, then you go and find out what is clearly in the categories, then of course, we have to avoid them.

01:00:24--> 01:00:25

And what is

01:00:26--> 01:00:27

in the

01:00:28--> 01:00:30

molecular

01:00:31--> 01:00:32

tables,

01:00:33--> 01:00:35

we can ignore them

01:00:37--> 01:00:39

later live with peace of mind.

01:00:44--> 01:00:49

And in the end, if we ask ourselves

01:00:51--> 01:00:53

why did the law make?

01:01:01--> 01:01:02

Why did he not just make everything?

01:01:05--> 01:01:11

Couldn't be everything, because then we wouldn't be able to survive, right? So, the only option is everything.

01:01:12--> 01:01:13

Why don't we just make everything

01:01:15--> 01:01:17

and we wouldn't have to be bothered about all of this.

01:01:20--> 01:01:24

The reality is that this is a part of the test of this life.

01:01:26--> 01:01:27

It's a test of faith,

01:01:30--> 01:01:31

commitment,

01:01:33--> 01:01:33

love and

01:01:35--> 01:01:36

trust in the law,

01:01:37--> 01:01:46

all of the higher qualities and characteristics which raise the human being from being an animal

01:01:49--> 01:01:51

we are and have an animal side.

01:01:52--> 01:01:58

But Allah has given us on the capacities that these

01:02:00--> 01:02:06

tests of halal and haram bring out in us the better

01:02:09--> 01:02:09

and

01:02:11--> 01:02:12

to be able to appreciate

01:02:14--> 01:02:17

the halaal there needs to be heroin.

01:02:18--> 01:02:20

Because if everything was held, and

01:02:22--> 01:02:23

where would be

01:02:25--> 01:02:41

the test, there is no appreciation of what the law has given us when a lot when we can see all of their lives given us from his bounties, etc, you know, then this should also engender in us, you know,

01:02:43--> 01:02:59

gratitude and love of a law for the blessings that he has put in our lives. Regardless of the situations that we may be faced with, there are so many blessings around us that we always should say

01:03:02--> 01:03:03

hamdulillah

01:03:04--> 01:03:08

all thanks or gratitude, All praise is due to a law

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should be the heartbeat of our lives.

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And with that

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understanding

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our lives will find

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peace,

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tranquility

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and purpose.

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So, Allah did not make halal and haram

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just to make life difficult for human beings.

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For the animals, there is no Hello.

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They do whatever they do by instinct, okay, it's all okay.

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But for us, a law made that distinction.

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And the ultimate goal of our creation is paradise. We were created to worship Allah, but to worship Him in order to get to paradise that is the ultimate goal.

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These tests

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the tests of halal and haram, they bring out the higher

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qualities, characteristics, human characteristics,

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which, if we are able to develop them, we earn our way to paradise through them.

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Through the mercy of Allah, Allah, of course, which encompasses all of his creatures.

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I'm going to stop here, hello labels,

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clarity or insanity.