Channel: Akram Nadwi
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my dear brothers and sisters in Sri Lanka to speak the first few minutes to start and then if you have questions, you can ask inshallah.
So, Alhamdulillah NYT, the very important, the people, and especially the students, you know, the travel, and then let's see the other parts of the world, or other cities, and then the mute people, very important.
So, 100 students from a serum Institute, in London, they came with the mustard of love, from London to Oxford, to see the new CFR for different departments and colleges and offers International Studies. And also, you know, to meet the students here. So this is very important to do. Very important, I start off learning and that I want to emphasize, and then inshallah, you're going to ask questions, the way and that's why we made this world, that He has given us, all of us,
those faculties, which are so sick of the knowledge.
So the way we get the knowledge is, you know, by seeing when you see something, you get knowledge, sometimes you get the knowledge by hearing, you hear something, you get the knowledge, like a man talking to you, you listen, and you got the knowledge. And there are other faculties as well, like people assemble the nuggets of knowledge, people taste, digger, the knowledge, people touch something, they get the knowledge. So these are the five senses, people get the knowledge, through five senses. These are the main source of sources of the knowledge, they're not a source of
truth of the matter in this world, you know, sort of said that Allah has made for the people to learn to know something, or only five, five senses, through which people learn something, then the people have been given the mind a reason, which, you know, gets information from these sources,
assess their information, analyze it, them, test them, improve them, develop them. So monitoring mind does the mind very important, but a mind is not a source of knowledge.
If somebody has a no I
can see with the mind.
If you don't have AI, can you see with the mind?
If you don't have hearing, can you hear with the mind? No, if you don't taste, if you don't have tangled contest with the mind, the mind does not have any mind or not actually generate any information, understand properly, mind does not produce any information or the information in the world, they will only come through the the five senses, mind does not generate any knowledge does not produce any information, what a mind does, receives the information through these sensors, they will have them plugged in here, some of them, improve them, test them in a summit in mind does, what might not jump into that source of knowledge discovery might not source of information, that Howard
has made the people
that allows people to learn easily,
which are what he has given around.
You know, he created things and he wants you to see them, to hear about them all those things. And then you become learned that how you learn that how people have been learning, you know, got everything he created. On a true nature of truth to when you will see it when you analyze it, you get good information to information with a study about in the sky, about moon sun, about the plants, if you want to know about the plants, then observe them. You just spent some time with them. See how the guru you know how much lard they need? How much energy they need anything, you study them, and then you learn about them. Too far every single thing in this world that our world has done,
everything, you know, created with some truth. And your effort should be to find out the truth if you know the truth. You know, that was analogies. What people do human being
they have a ability to corrupt the truth.
So what's happened see them when the signal is sometimes they don't get enough information,
they still connect to know, the corrupt, they teach the wrong thing.
Sometimes they have their own interest to teach wrong things, to be able to back up the knowledge, but Allah did not clear corruption on the face of the earth. The very thing if you want to get the truth is so clear, if people want to they make effort, and they get the true knowledge, but when the human interference comes in, then lies come, distortion come like part of his story, something happened in London,
if you want to get the truth go and find out with the people understand, you know what happened, then you get the knowledge and then present the truth either it is, but sometimes I have my own interest in changing the truth, interesting it so then I understand, but I presented differently, I can I can affect it. human being has power, a ability, to interfere with the truth, to change it to affect it, and to twist it then all the time this thing happening. But the but the reality is not like that the yellow was different is true. People need to understand the truth as much as possible, luckily studied English at Oxford, and many, many years did to the scientists here.
The Mad Men, you know men to that they do really observation, they make it they want to observe, you know, all the fundamental in this world, ai they are. Sometimes they have, you know, full observation, sometimes partial. And then after that they want to infer the truth as best as possible.
If they do this, they'll be successful. Sometimes they will not, sometimes not because you know, not every time you make a photo, you get the result. But at least you were there for somebody else who will come he will improve, find your mistakes, or keep improving that how the science works. But sometimes side this time, also their own agenda.
So then they have to basically use the facts in a way on the present and where to serve that agenda.
So I have been given a task using money to make you know, an application for mobile phone. So people can buy more and more mobile phone is something interesting, something new, nobody got assigned, decide No, really, this new application is going to destroy the humidity is going to affect the new generation. It is going to make them lazy. It is going to corrupt them. I know Dustin
to mind, this is not about the peace of mind testimony. I'm working on getting money. So I will do all the wrong things while I get the money to people keep doing this thing all the time happening all the learned people, they all ever interfere with the old way that could distort the truth. keep happening. I love the way if you do this, you never can be guided.
You have only one thing to find out the truth or follow it. You cannot create the truth. You cannot generate the truth. You cannot change if you want the truth is buried by me. Nobody can change it. You have one they wanted to do find out follow it, you'll be successful. Why just change it misinterpreted. misguidance but people always do this. All the time came to distant data why your law has to reveal the books. Otherwise if people don't do this thing, there's no need for any book. You know people second ability that they will have been so good to go the people but people keep interfering that by the messengers to come prophets come books come to force people to make people
curious, knowing use your mind.
Abraham opens his eyes what he sees in his father hi the business makes money How does he make money? He makes eIders sell them make money.
And if that's people these ideas are so great. You know if you buy them, you ask them anything they do for you. People spend money they buy
but you Brahim can see really how can they guide how can they listen to you? He said to his father, but these idols they can't eat. They can't drink. You know they can't harm the God of benefit. They don't don't listen to you. They even don't see anything to how they can become angry that no you want to take away from my my business you want to hire me and this thing and that will be probably in the house, which will father in between the side because the son wants to know the truth. Our father wants to run business interest Exactly. In a conflict. This all the time keep happening this to mankind all the time that way we need people who are firm sound, who never can be you know,
influence. People like that the book scape Allah for the PC
You get other books none of them prefers a lot then open your eyes use your cell phone you know somebody else said this a god
but you don't have mind see is the gardener deliberate I'm so much older I just put up with the people they're not Gods they cannot defend themselves they can't do anything you open your Quran said you know don't don't the people see that we gave them to eyes to see why don't you see with your eyes why you want to see me that somebody else somebody else said it is black.
But you see the red
why you think notice but I because somebody else said why don't you use your own eyes?
Why don't you submit yourself something has bad smell, then don't touch it. But you know you say no no I don't I have bad smell but everybody else use it must be something
bad you know you see something wrong. But every but doesn't do you also do not like to use your mind use your eye to the harasser do not Don't you see around, open your eyes when you will. So when you when people read books, it is good. A lot of people should read the books, human books and non human books. But try to understand the human books our human influence on human influence has many problems, something we'll do some time it will be false because they're not know maybe and sometimes deliberately, they are false, they want to distort you. So the way to find the truth is not only to do the human who's read God's book, but also walk around open your eyes. See that is now you came
from London to Oxford, you see the city something new, you see what people have done, you meet the people, you learn from them something maybe your teachers have been teaching certain way, when you discuss with the students here and same thing to discuss in different way you compare you find out exactly what is the truth at least you can see there are two ways to present the same thing to now Your mind will start asking what can you learn only one away your mind never, never asked question, but the same thing is presented by the people 234 different ways, then my left pressure to find out what is the truth with all those things, they all are very good for the students to travel to meet
the people to see them
to see the mountains, water, you know everything plants, it is studied them properly, you can natural what is or to learn from them, learn for you not only learn from the sky, you know from the rain lands on the mountains, for the people, how people behave, you know people whatever they do, whatever influence they make, they still they are made by God.
Still they cannot change himself, you can learn from their behavior, the way they speak the way they understand, you cannot so many things. So, this is what you need to do is to study is not easy. If people think a study needs to read the books and get what you need, it is not a study, study basically is a long effort.
Hard work in order to find the truth
that some time comes by reading a book. Sometimes it comes really by challenging the author, you Sharon daughter know the way you present in that right? You did not answer the question properly, you did not demonstrate everything in 99% things you say make sense. But one person this question you did not do well. And I don't find any argument in your statement. This I cannot take from you I have to discuss this somebody else because this is something wrong. All the time your mind must be open you must be able to ask question because a human being that you know their knowledge sometimes could have defect. Sometimes deliberately, they want to misguide you, too if you don't open your
mind, don't challenge don't ask question, you will be misguided.
Or the injustice in the world of inequality offsetting honesty.
What why did why are there then for most people, in first not always wrong, but the influence, you have to be ready to understand really, I want to accept influence or not.
Always keep your mind, you know, awake. If some people want to influence you, you have to ask question Really? What do I want to teach me? And how they want to influence me? Does it make sense or not? I have my own mind. Does this make sense to me or not? I have my own knowledge. I can actually teach them something. And I can raise question like that in the light of what I know. Some tech wouldn't be proud that they have got an angle or you have another angle. They never knew your angle you raise a question from your angle, it will make them to think
I'm here in Oxford. I started my classroom teaching, and all those things. So in most time, if you go to mother Assad in India and Pakistan in Saudi Arabia, people don't allow the women to come to the club. So if you go, you know, you don't find actually women loving Bokhari for men, isn't happening. Well, hamdulillah in Oxford, I allowed some time, you know, the students from from the university used to come, they don't have headscarf and I think people said to me teaching Bukhari for the women who don't have headscarf don't cover their head, and this and that, too. I said, No, not that people learn that, you know, they will understand what happens to some of these girls. You
know, they used to come to my class. And I never taught women, we only have been learning from the men or teaching women. What happened is some time I've
put on a person. And they asked a question, which I never can think. So their question helped me to understand another angle. Because you know, when we administered the same test, sometimes there might be a different curve. You know, there are women that sometimes reverse come Hadith comes, the thing from different to those questions helped me a lot. So it improved my understanding of the original test, then I understand the prophet and an alum better, because what happens if you don't know this question, you read the Koran? Do you interpret a guide to one way I do think though the Quran had to do something else, but you are forced to do something else? Somebody else has kosher,
we will ask a question, then you think oh, then his Quranic was not immune? What are you thinking? Would it mean something else? And then you understand much better when you see to I've been, you know, I learned from my teacher, actually, I also know from my students to their questions helped me to understand even the foreigner sooner much better. This was from UCF, Oxford, they were not in Islamic Studies. They're coming into the finish the clever people to the ask question, which makes sense to me, to some time I had on some time do not have answer at least it forced me to understand to think more. And again, now, it really I'm more open. And now I'm not in Russia to make you know,
any my own inner judgment or rolling about anything, unless I understand you know, all dispersed properly is the best as possible, but I do want to want to in appreciate what Richard do the present idea, I want to be a teacher, what teacher do teacher present the you know, all the facts as they are compared, but let the people in who understand them properly, their intention is different than intention not to make people to follow them. So 100 I never an intention to make follows this very bad way of teaching. The way of teaching is to explain you know, is that everything in right you know, where and then a student can ask question, they may prefer to understand sometimes they agree
with you, sometimes they differ. But still they know there are consumable honey for a lot in Islam.
People say the best teacher reason because his his students differ from him more than anybody else.
His two strawberries and Muhammad the differ from him in a 1/3 of the model 1/3.
There is another teacher.
Reason not that didn't understand. The reason is, he's really was to them to understand the tech for me what they understand, too, he allowed them to differ.
That was that was good teaching. Because every buddy has got a mind. Everybody's got difficulties, they're going to think amazing. Sometimes students can do much better than the teachers.
That How do you do it very important for the students that you know don't have one way of learning, study the books, but different types of books. Then use your own faculties to study the nature. Ask question, see how people behave, how people explain how people think how their mind works, they will be much more if people want to focus on the books. They fear in the life. It could be somebody is doing an Oxford PhD. I know really, some people are starting out for different men or women. They fell in love, they got married. But in real life they feel
this water from Korea reality is different in the year that dictates Do you need to understand the reality either it is so anyway, the reason I said all this is to encourage people to travel, to travel to meet the people to see the nature and in Islamic history. One of the important thing is to be always for the students to travel. Popular well Daddy has written a book our regular fee is Bella Bella heavy traveling for the sake of the hobby. So it was a big big thing really people even the women can I wrote no such a huge book about the women do I not even the women used to travel in order to seek the knowledge to meet the people to discuss with them to get into high is another
learning or dosen to get people in
move from one place to another place with a new experience new people meet new people and experience new learning new thinking. People always people never should revise, never take one from Oxford, I know everything. No, it wouldn't be possible that you go somewhere to mostly stupid industry in the world, you go there, you will learn something. If your mind open, even more stupid, if you go to a farmer in a village in India, you think, Oh, these farmers don't know anything. Sit with them, you'll find some reason.
Something even on your subject, and maybe something is going to help you to understand more, but always make your mind open thinking. So I don't want to take much more time. Just you know, started just to make your mind to work in that direction, that how to think how to be independent, basically thinking understanding. But if you have any questions to ask
if you have any question I asked, you know, don't cuz I you know, one important way of learning ask the question,
process first degree in quantum law or law, if you don't know, ask those who know the professor salatu salam in nama shefali. So if you don't know, then you're curious, asking the question, to ask a question all the way through
Just allow the
last one that you mentioned that you should ask.
Sometimes, like people who like end up with non Islamic conclusion, and
scholars would tell them, oh, how can you equate your human logic with divine logic? And
then we will have
my second leg? And my second question is, what was the inspiration for you to write a book
fasting really, that if people think there's any conflict between human knowledge and between divine knowledge, that is a big mistake.
God never can teach us something different for our what he has created,
on his own, never created anything, then he was different from the truth. So if Islamic knowledge in conflict with your natural knowledge that you learn with racial knowledge, then one of them is
either what you used to think Islamic is not Islamic. On what was thinking the ratio in the ratio, one of those certainly is wrong. No, no, not
enough to be something Islamic. What do you think?
You know, sometimes people think if I didn't say something Islamic, no, I also can do mistake. I'm an idealist teaching, I can do mistake.
Even what you think in the Koran. It could be what you understand, it could have been a mistake.
You have to notice you have to study something different. You have to compare.
You know many, many people read the Quran, I consider how the problem happens.
I give you two examples. You know to make your mind very clear that how even in the Quran people can go so much around maybe three examples.
Okay, one example is that people read the story if you will.
That he brought himself to his Lord. Oh my lord shown how do you bring the dead alive? Pfeiffer to hear about the How do you make a dented ally
so that Allah said to Brahim who are bottom that player take four birds
and then unless it for so
many Adorama they say what Allah said to Brahim. Then cut these four robots in pieces.
And then put these pieces are four different mountains. That piece of the dead under call them now they will be assembled together alive and they will come to you Ronnie. Have you heard this stuff?
Never people say
but truth really should read the Quran. Quran the Quran says something else. What actually happening is, Ibrahim is not concerned that Allah can make the data alive.
He knows this. Even I know everybody knows his concern. People don't understand the question.
People think he rhymed. His question is how in Allah does it you know, I don't understand how can God become alive? This is not question Ibrahim knows Allah can make the dinner life he the only question when Allah does this what he does that did become alive to Allah said to him right to easy. Just take for a bus surah Hoon alayka to speak to them until they become familiar to your voice. Or these words. Like you know people who raise the bus to the bus recognize their voice
Admit that to recognize the worst they've ever filmed you don't apart nothing cutting there and just put these bars in different direction and call them they will come running to then know your voice they can eyes you. Similarly in the Day of Judgment, I will just speak call on all the soul and body they recognize that they will come to me running by the bus stop running the American knows that nothing cutting pieces and this and that, but this is how people have done it. Similarly for example,
people said that Allah subhanaw taala asked him I'm just to do cider to us the other
day all day I'm just about to Adam the decider, except we believe
if you read the Quran, Quran or whsc everything then he was only there to say that when
I've seen this, but I never accept any side that anyone other than what are you saying? to just think Really? How is this possible that Allah will come on and just to say that we
have this possible use your mind but people please and people not on all the people said you've seen what actually happening is it in our side that two of them are like the one leasing now I create a creation, I want to make celebration, the two sides that to me, because I have discretion to sit Listen, you do let them do say that to me for the sake of father to me. Now there isn't. Always say the one that like you know, sometimes you say if I pass the exam, I will pray to God.
Do you pray to Allah for Allah for exam
for Allah on that occasion?
On this occasion law subject when I said do side to side there was one law but on that occasion, but people did not understand people thinks I do not want to dismiss and now you're thinking up what I've conducted for our competitive because we did not make effort to understand the Quran that were happening. People read surah Yusuf. And then they said that you know this this woman, you know, she fell in love with Yusuf Ali Salam but somehow you saw Islamia so pious you didn't listen to her then all the women in Egypt are noble women they start talking that you know how is she if we are there we easily can make any man to fall in our trap she didn't know anything she called them to show them
that this man is different not what you think they came she made so far for them gave them not to drink these women drank and now they are you know in good mood and then she asked me what Islam come then he came to follow Marina aka Carnival When did we miss it is
such a good
idea on on what they did two people said the cargo pants don't fit because nobody cuz the if we put if the women got their hand what will happen
then doctors will come hospital will be there in just cut what will happen the oldest story where after after that
they did this or this is going on in long story after that destroyed or not finished? If it did think really if all the women see hands for some person and they guard their hands the story will enter then after all dot bourassa if not continue the people so got the hand by hand It means the card the fingers okay even cutting the fingers the big thing is the women are the fingers can they can do it all but then it is University different it got people can't sit there they said the injured the finger but rather nothing around you don't cut on the baton a bit more water in it cutting properly and just think really did happen ever in the history of the mankind. The handsome
man and the woman card that has ever happened Have you ever seen a woman cutting the hand because we have seen who has a person you'd ever happen?
Oh really ever happened there man see who woman and the other hand it's never happened. Neither men nor women are cutting the hand on that happened.
So just really what what's happening there what Ron is saying instead of making all this cutting the hand the missing cutting the simple material.
Well useful Islam Kim, these women are experts how to you know move the metaphor in their tribe. And they know how to do that from you know, your family, the learner woman. So basically they did order three things, which Veronica Khurana Booker. You know that no single part of the Parana who is I cannot teach to my daughter sister. So it is amazing book. There's no blog article. If you teach Bible to the people, there are passages you can't read. so dirty in humor in Hindu script. There's so much if you can't relate to the people in the Quran that no single part which you cannot do to the people. This what is nothing because these women, you know, they projected their body maybe they
can like it. They took after
Close to the basics, every dirty thing to use, you can look at them and
tell me how can I say all these words
is canonical to say that this took off the cloth, then you can make it that paragraphs order
to what the best way for porosity, Parana, what to say they did all the tricks
people don't take to the hand. So expression in the heart their hearts meaning a dead finish all the tricks that nothing remains every single possible trick they hide, to make use of to fall the trap, they did finish for us at the curb their hands miss everything finished, still insisted that nothing happened to us. They conduct emphasis then they said Maha Bashara actually want to be all our tricks are for human, this person, not human being. And they said, you know in how they love Russia, he must be in how they lamarckian not even engine, he must have noble engine even and just go for in our normal engine. This is what happened. But now people make all these things occur the haninge
under ingress and this under which actually a very, very women read this, they'll be shocked at that. But this is not happening. But the cars anything because you're saying that you know sometimes we think that, you know, if we use our mind that people have divine knowledge different from the human mind. Sometimes people don't want to ask question around, but what's in cambree are splitting something there's no single dyad. So they say what you say makes sense to us women, but you will never dare to ask question that people will say no, no Islamic different from your mind the reasoning, they stop people from asking the question.
Keep in mind, that mind and religion, they never are in conflict. Never human reason. And reason that never never conflict, as a need to know if problem will be solved. Understand problem is human culture. When people make a culture that comes in conflict with the human nature with everything, but human reason, and God's religion, both are the same from Allah, they never can be conferred. Then your second question about you know, what made me to write the book of Michelangelo, now the publisher sent me Ramadan, the book will be out, you know, so many volumes in the middle that make it easier.
You know, simple reason, really, that, you know, the story goes back in 94, or something like that. I was reading a, you know, some British newspaper segment time, or some where the fewer articles about the women in Islam to the article, you know, blames Islam, for women's, you know, by coordinates in Islam and even orders and decent data. So it came to my mother, we have been studying heavy that I know many women who are loving it, if I can put their biography together, it will be answer to these questions, and also encourage our sisters and daughters to seek an audit. So that about, nobody asked me to do just my on my own disk. And then when I started researching to keep
growing with so many when I graduated really nearly 10,000 women just in one field. And now we still know I keep finding more or less, I don't hide anymore, because the book is finished. But just I'm saying so this is very recently, in a time when in Nowhere in the world, we will
you know this to to actually this you to teach in the same matter of time, most of the men out there next to them at least some time to three teachers and in the classroom that you're sitting here in the classroom and what is the weather.
For the news or news I've got the restaurant that traditionally has been identified the class they would write our the news, our attendees, if you read the rest of it all men and women,
every single class has men and women together. All of the amazing things relate to all the pies people will notice is to impress people. It was a time when the no feminism, if I write is three or four women in our time, two people cursing our families, still people accuse me. What I'm saying is those are dead weather, no feminism, you know, 800 years back 900,000 years back, then nothing. It all really people learning from each other men love from the women, women love from the men and the respect.
Nothing disrespect. And in the same classroom, they sit together. There were no barrier, lack of this barrier. This barrier does not exist in Islam, neither in the prayer not in the classroom. No. So I never came across any single example, in the history of distant 1000 women, where they made any barrier between men or women, either in the prayer on the philosophy, nothing does not exist. But your pious people, you know, they come they learn together. And then you know, the fear of the past people that you know no doctor, but at the same time, the human did nobody at the law for the same reason they asked question, you know, and in the discus, they argue you know mom's Montessori was a
tough man Todd Davi you know. He died in the year wonder 25 four after the Prophet one or two before. So so early. This is American all the big people
In his biography, the same when you were a student, he used to come into the classroom, sit in the front, when the teacher had left, and then he would discuss it door issued with every Monday class, or when every older women, young women, young girls in the class,
then it They say he will go to every house. And he will go to meet older women, young women, even though girls who are kept hidden because they're going to get married, because caricature was when a girl is allowed to marry to keep it for a while, even if you go on a meet with those girls to discuss with them. Is that how I used to log on to routing? So you can see really in when the conolly don't need married, people can learn from anybody is okay, if you have question.
You mentioned that you started teaching them.
What's the reasoning that I'm just trying to understand where it went from men and women learning together to really seeing like, what happened? Why is that happening? You know what happens, I think, in Latin Islam in some circles.
I'm sitting in the University of Oxford, but I have to, you know, blame, put all the blame on a bigger mind, often this year, the man can, and he's a student. He's a big man, I have no doubt I respect him. I know we learn from him. But one thing he did, that he meant he was defeated. But one serious mistake in it. He was very negative about the women, I started. He used to believe that women are inferior to the men.
We are not meant to learn thereby in Greek philosophy. You'll never find any learned woman you never used to think women are inferior to the man on one of our women he used to do is that the reason? You know the women have got it listed compared to the men that approve the women are inferior to the men. Historians say histones are the signs across the say for the country degree it may be you find out that some of these online, they say he had to watch he could count the teeth women have simply recommend this man who's so learner who study everything that he says for every single thing. Even he just took from you know, society. People just say something about the woman. He didn't care he
also repeat the same thing that you know, philosophy has got this negative attitude in very drastic and to Salaam, Muslim philosophers also. Their thought philosophy just taught us not for women, women just cooking and cleaning the house. We are closers we learned mortars in an orderly Islamic career comatose they were binus philosopher not so powerful by letter are in support of Muslim one Iran policy. Yeah, sometimes Indian philosophy can very, very powerful. But that's not my philosophy came the mind of the automa became that no women are inferior, they should not include the liquid in the in the madrasa to that how they are, it's been removed from the mothers or not in the beginning.
In India, you go to the old mosques, like 700 years old urton. In all the mosque, you find a section for the woman. Until now, it is still there. But later on, where curriculum became more philosophy, they basically is good the women from that curriculum, except sometimes according to the Hillary, those were influenced by the heavy heart This allows many women to vote, they're allowed. But generally when the rational sciences, they're very powerful number of sub dead. It's where the women that hug came, and unclean and people agree had deep in mind that women are inferior to the men. And that's how mothers like another one of my studies, they're more open. But you don't find any Omen
there. They don't allow the women to learn That's impossible. And the argument that they make, you know, they're not meant to be accepted to foreigners who like know why women have to be hidden. They can't count public dollar teachers used to teach us Kadena if you have gotten your house and you know things are not precious, you project them you open them, but this was apparition like a diamond. God what you do give them hiding to we are precious to that why we keep them hiding. Nobody can see this argument in mechanisms even more and more do the big people they make this argument until I will not when I start doing my research, then it's distract my mind. I know there's
something wrong in this argument. Because this argument What does it really it makes women equal to other objects. Women have a life they have a will in their mind. They can think what is good or bad they can defend themselves. You make them like gold and silver to take on different types of the car actually protect themselves and then a wiser the profit they used to go out. They were not hidden. Mario Mollison walks in the city people recognize her people ask Omar what they know her by all these women are not by just something wrong. So then I change I said no, this is not right. This argument a very bad argument is not likely and there's no proof that we must should be hidden and
Sometime I asked the minute, give them we are pretty sure you keep them hiding in the house, the men are more precious, they should be put in the boxes.
Put all the men in the boxes because operation with the asset, No, nobody would have said this argument, this argument they wanted to make women aside and quiet, it was in madrasa bite will not work in real society, the people can see really the problem with this argument. So when you mix with other people, then you can see the weakness of your argument. So this is a problem, really. And now, you know, when I started, I tell you, even my friends live all of my life. And so they were everywhere, who actually requested to me, they used to criticize me that you know how you allow the women, you know, in your classroom, sometimes they make a joke against me that, you know, shocker.
I'm allowed the women and this atonement is in why we still I used to make my position clear that why we allow this time I went for Amara, I made went to meet a chef, the chef, either my teacher and the people reading they're one of the important work of heavy.
On the first time I saw this colossal women. And on one of the leading she was the one who really a very, very fast, very nicely
typing. I said to say no, I'm happy that you do this together like we did. I raised him a place the women. And I wrote about that in Saudi Arabia first time. So if it is not right away, they can do now. And now the considerably these women, they're pious, they want to learn they want to they think I then you might, you know they don't have any defect in knowledge, the advice they can raise question, it ought to really get a culture developed, where they know culture was to keep women out to be salami against the culture.
They're never conflict between reason and between a religion that kind of flicked it between the culture and the reason or between the culture and the religion. The Muslim culture is different from Muslim religion to all over America for a while some people say no, this is wrong. No, it wouldn't be culture, not Islam. Islam is what in the Koran, and the soon after Professor
I have a couple questions. One is more practical one is more theoretical. The first one is, if the main interpretations of the on the report presented require a certain, you know, segments of one of my that we've been experienced, that we've had the experience of taking knowledge from so far, don't make sense to us.
And we're suddenly presented with this new view that does make sense to us that works with our understanding of Islam. How can we then differentiate between whether it's the viewpoint that we're being presented with that's right or wrong, a whether our understanding of Islam is right or wrong, or whether our rational things going right on. So just to give you an example,
sort of buckle up to verse two, eight to the verse where it's the testimony of the woman in contracts. And so the, and the explanation I was given by a couple of people, what they asked when I was younger, when I came across this first was that women are more emotional. And so the interpretation that the sorry, the testimony that they bring forward is less valuable. But then they're required to women in order to make up the testimonial format. But later on, I went through, I asked another, another scholar A few years later, and he said no, it's more than likely that this interpretation might mean something more along the lines of at that time in their culture, these
women weren't able to go forth and put testimony forward because of the culture of the Arabs at the time. And the Koran came in and said, we're giving these so you can have two women, if one woman, one woman is there, a second one should be there to support her just in case, she isn't used to giving testimony because prior to that they've been banned for anyway, this is just an example of interpretation. But the more general point that I'm trying to put forward is if there is an interpretation that seems to make more sense to us. How can we differentiate between whether it's our interpretation that's gone wrong? Or the what we're trying to interpret? That's got a
simple question is, whenever you learn anything, how do you do right?
Whenever you leave Islam, you're studying linguistics.
Sometimes one interpretation sometimes more than one, what makes you think it is right? Is leave is Islam anything in a secular thing? How do you know something right?
The thing what what you know, you use your own mind, go to the penal resources, below real argument. Sometimes two arguments can make sense to you go deeper compared to some degree you can save some time you Creek really cannot understand your thinking I read all of my fund on a board look equal to then you will see that there are too strong opinion in this might be possible. We never really when you use your mind. It always be one interpretation when you use your mind, but the Koran generally if you make effort will be one interpretation.
But it's also possible to different interpretation and both are equally valid, it will possible to opinion you know, unless we had never met people that they always must be right. The commodified lied, you must make effort to be right. If you make effort and you do mistake, he will forgive in anything that you lack in science. You're a scientist, scientists, whenever they make any finding only sometimes they're right sometimes wrong. The next generation of the improve current will more experienced the same thing when you learn from me. you discuss with somebody else you meet on a finding all of that weakness in this argument, then compare Oh, yeah, that's what he said the more
macmost compare with three four people gives you a better idea. On some time, maybe some person says some division No, no is to watch XOR verbose. More says, two people compared to verse three, use your own mind the results serially, sincerely what makes more sense keeping matter Allah is the one who made the men and women both. Now this was people make decent position integration, which one is more appropriate to Allah Cahit the creator and agree he cannot work he cannot work here. What makes more fair treatment for the women keep together and see the 234 integration while still maybe not asserting your right one time to say you have to make effort to be right. So don't worry in this
way, if you this attitude, you already must be wondering no one of them is right. You can't learn that if this does not exist in this world. In this while you always find the truth really over where the more than one interpretation more than one opinion even tears which are made by human being leave out what I mean by law, even by human being more than one is still you have to make you cannot still you need to make effort to find an equally possible you could say people like Abu hanifa magic big big people discussing the matters which are there the text which are written there is still the default. Same thing somebody Sahara and let me know when you come play behind the Imam
Imam Malik Mr. Shafi Amina Humbert all dollar must say said reading fast the hell behind the Imam is obligatory Alhamdulillah grandfather, if you don't read your great University in Abu hanifa say reading Fatiha behind the Imam is nearly Haram.
You see the difference is not you know not word Haram. You guys seen
this sample on Sam's tuna no into external influence. This is the Muslim society. You can dominate the Muslim society they are the victorious, they're not weak, they don't have Empire. They are the they have the power to somebody else influence Abu hanifa in the Muslim society, pure Muslim society lacks access to the knowledge is still these two conflicting ideas. And they until now exist. So I'm not saying that you know, when you study the Quran sooner, or whether you agree No, sometimes very differently, but to use the mind of God, people ask how we use our honey for the students. When we have a honey if I died, who was more clever, you are your teacher? Is Abu hanifa cleverer than me,
they said then why do you differ from me?
If Abu hanifa is more clever than you do, why do differ from him? He said in the Day of Judgment, God will ask a guide to my reasoning not only for the reasoning, I am respond to what I understand why not what he understood. If something makes no sense to me, I never said then why didn't you do this? There are good ask. And you could be wrong. I'll never forget what I said in the lemon. Though the mistakes work people actually isn't that easy for the people I forget to I've never seen that. You know, when you use your mind, you are going to be safe. But people have different mind. But that is the best, best thing for human beings to make if they can't do more than that problem when you
become lazy. And you think or somebody said I just accept it don't accept it is big, it is very large. It really does not make sense is to follow and you think that that's it? And then you blame Allah? No, all the way they make if at what? Even if what makes sense. Would it be mistake is still better than what did not mix us all to understand, because people must use the mind that when he gave the mind that he said
Don't you think of that different? Don't use your mind. He gives him an answer in the Quran was always the other Lavina Yachty rune. Those people who don't use the mind it I make their mind polluted, dirty. If you don't use it, if come dirty. He said the people must use the mind. The most noble thing that Allah has given to the human being is the mind most noble. There's nothing more noble for humanity than the mind. And you want to abundant the mind.
mind must be used. Certainly when you use it. Sometimes we agree. Sometimes you disagree sometimes. Right? And sometimes you're asleep. Like you know when you have a look at
You walk sometimes,
when you re see with the right sometimes you do mistake when you hear do mistake, or human faculty like the same mind when a mind thinks that some time right? Saturday by stealing you have to follow the mind. If you follow your eye, as you follow your hearing, or you fail your test, still you have to do actually all these these different, but still you have to follow them. There's no way for human being except to use the mind to know where to find the truth. Only the mind mind is the only way to find the truth. People must use it and never be tired. They're clear about that was that you raise the question. The truth really is. I be teaching in all Thursday and Friday, right? This
morning. Now it was coming arriva didn't have courage to come here tomorrow to hold the question that you asked. I asked him a question. So my time is gonna get recorded, you can learn. But otherwise, next week, I'm coming on Tuesday. And the topic is about feminism. And the question, if you ask again, I'll answer the question. You can see really what Allah said what people say, you can see it just really, you know, truth of the matter. You have a hard all the information. But what do you not do? I'll tell you, what you will not do is just take that request for the begin and read yourself. You took from all the people, but you did not bother to read yourself. There are probably
two people explain to you and then we'll make comparing between interpatient but you never think that it makes sense to work where it belongs to you don't come to
that the problem is do you have three four opinions? But these are opinions based on something good read that
book yourself, see what happened you read the Quran and I said to people read it yourself if it does not make sense to you once the second time. Third time got another book a different from human book, sometimes reading twice, three times four times it makes sense to that what you need to do you got three depression. Okay, let him open the book. Read it from beginning to end see what Allah want to see. The really allowed to humiliate the woman does he want to hurt them is a Khurana buka hurting the women to blame them to make me feel you have a book respecting men and women both look at and then you read you will see that there is a reasoning. And he will elaborate that why what I'm saying
is nothing to do with women being inferior, a woman will know nothing. It really in the favor of the women it accrues defending everybody putting everything right place by nice to understand what is time to say. So if you need to spend time in any other question,
if I said that, like Aristotle and Greek philosophy was one of the reasons for the decline of women's education, why has that kind of persisted even though we kind of reject that philosophy today? What's like made it keep it so good. Yeah, that's what I was gonna talk. I think you're still in the car. Definitely. You're still under questions I'll commit to when I see this question came to extend to our Christian lady, she was a professor that she stood up. She's a You're right, exactly her present in Christianity. Greek philosophy message and was that a women in in Christianity became a serious
problem, really, the mother Assad is still remaining the same influence. If you got caught up with notice to the eyes really madrasa. Until now the mother Assad don't teach the modern logic and philosophy.
They still teach Greek logic and philosophy still insist on that for the curriculum, everything is tailored
to when philosophy to the Miss Greek whole philosophy, not new philosophy. modern European philosophy does not exist in Madras or whatever European have done in the last 500 years does not exist anymore. So what the teacher model is basically what in Messina in a Siena rozalia. These are all extension of Greek logic, a classic Greek illogical philosophy studies, the most of us tempted a rational knowledge in madrasahs to this problem, unless people develop it move like European have moved, nothing will happen. But they don't make effort to mother Assad ins even even in this country, you are in the rest of this country. Go to America. You see, all the mothers are in this
country. None of them did any modal logic or moral philosophy. They don't teach any, any British cluster. They don't teach any refresh philosophy. They will lead teach in the scene of Greek logic, Greek stuff and nothing else. Nothing is being taught even now the mothers are here in America, go to America and see madrasa they still keep teaching, you know, logic and philosophy taught by even in this industry they usually seen for a long time, but after that they moved but mothers are never moved. They still there that I always say mothers are like a museum. When you go to Museum, what happens
Mother's museum has no relevance to the society when you come from museum out what the different museums are different. But what if you go to madrasa plasticity, you love that category, we love museum. But when you come out
to directly people come to mother's breast, all old thing, but just Museum, it has nothing to do with with the society. Religion must guide people in the society that they live in, in the time that they live in. Education, the education Miss education means to prepare people for the society and for the time that they live. The value question is, if education prepares you, for the time of Aristotle, it's not education. Education is to prepare you for the society, or the father time in which you live. For the future. Maybe if education does not do that, it's not education. But unfortunately, many centers of learning in the world. They don't prepare people for the society and
time they live in the day or talk for other time. They belong to different time, they still are in the storage.
Unfortunately, still, we live in the Stone Age in some part of the world, you're gonna send us an
email, if you have any question
come across rivers that raise my curiosity.
And it doesn't
follow why common sense.
So the steps forward would be going to another interpretation of going to another source and reading if I don't,
if it doesn't come with common sense, is the suggestion for me to reread
this, this verse within its context several times and understand what do I need in order to be able to come up with an independent opinion? Do I still need knowledge of language,
language, knowledge of other scripts, all these other other that are related to the same topic? Do I simply reread or do I need other things also to be able to come to that event?
Very good question really. And I would like to answer this before the product of all six of this is your time okay. I've managed in detail because this is important question that how do we read the Quran?
First thing you know, understand, karate was not revealed to me are you? Is it clear? Did you receive revelation? Did I receive revelation, none of us received revelation Coronavirus revealed to the Prophet Muhammad that in historical fact, nobody can see
Khurana was received by the prophet Muhammad Salah listen to when you study the forearm.
You have to have this system that our discussions with people who are farther and farther, luckiest if Oxford manual read this word, instead they do Deaf they don't apply the conditions of scholarship when the completion of this set is Cora Let me read what what is this?
This is never never a scholarship.
If you study Shakespeare, the scholarship you This is a book written by this man in this period as a history in this environment. What it says it amends to the people at that time, then you can what you love that was called ship if you remove his time and his compass everything you know are you think this book is for us. You will misinterpret because many many expressions that time their gender meaning many what's changed in me. I'll give you an example. A simple example. The word love and if you go to Middle East,
they use the word love and they mean yoga.
If you read a Quran, Quran does not mean by 11 Yoga Quran is milk.
Even a simple thing to change, just general happen to right attitude is when you study the Quran, first thing you need to learn really, this book why revealed to Prophet Muhammad in his time, when this was revealed to him, what did he understand?
That you need to force yourself to go back to 1400 year back in history, and that material is still exists meaning it is not very clear is still you can force yourself to find out what the condition what the Medina what the prophet need help, why the universities can be current and not complete.
It can be a piece of this piece when was revealed to him what what he wanted. What he learned from that is a great first step of the Quranic orbit, that when a Quran ever revealed to the Prophet Muhammad, how did he receive it? How does he understand it? And how did he apply to himself, address people
This condition firstly step always force yourself not easy to very difficult for the mind might not want to go to dig the language of that time, the society at that time, our culture at that time, what are our people doing at that time? Koran speaks like what I say about the women they put on their semar.
Now you go to Mr. Miss recovering.
But look, go back when we used to use what came out in that time. What did they mean? That part is still there. The speeches they're tougher, every single thing in the Quran first step always like a scholar, Buddhist scholar, Rs person, I want to read this book. This book was revealed to this man in this part of the history. That was his condition. Let me understand what he understood. And when the Quran revealed what he did, to karate tells him to do something and what he did how he applied love people sat around said whether a winner is flagged the women to let me read really did he ever strike any woman in the first person to obey the Koran? Did he ever hit any woman who the wife said
I said letter ma Ba ba ba ma novella Hardiman the Prophet never hit any woman of any settlement. Honestly, he never hit anybody.
So this you think I give current commands him to hit? He did not hit it? How can we win? But that what happened? His wife said he never had anybody read all the literature you never find any example of any one at all. And so the law says I served a perfect 10 years but he never hit me on for any that I did. He didn't ask him why did you do for anything I did not do he never devising or a software. So different histories met with a woman is so different. Nothing to do with any any hitting or winning. He used them so differently. So anyway, I'm not gonna do that. I just want to make clear really, that is the process of history. The Quran is a very, very run in modern time.
Learned people, ust people every better mistake. First step always, if you really a scholar, read the Koran is the book of Prophet Muhammad. Book revealed to him in a mechanic Medina commands him something How does he understand and how does he apply?
Then second step is, this book is also for me, through him, but for me, how can apply same to my life? Now another effort to win a Koran says something to him, Quran says there's no don't account to the prayer when you're drunk.
Until you know what what you say.
Okay, people used to drink water. In our time, maybe the people have gotten so many other drugs, we did not exist. But now apply the same ultimatums. So, all these drugs, they also affect my thinking, and I don't want to be your when I come to the payer, nothing can infer the mind, then you should understand what you say any drug, any of those two are the same. So you read that, understand what the Prophet did. He what he did, he far better people from drinking the wine. It comes to me, I said, Okay, maybe I don't drink wine, but I take other drugs, but they are sinful in my mind, I should give them up to second step, then apply the verses to yourself, your society, your time is a
killer. Then the third step, you understood our number to make it's been the same or said to other people who don't know what I know.
Now, my duty is to make it easier in their language in their culture. The three step basically if your teacher listed the first thing you make effort to learn, how the Prophet received a boron, how he understood and how he applied second step in then how I applied the same grant to my life to my understanding, then the third step we are going to explain the same thing to my audience because sometime you you you know people use the language to understand let's primary function the language, the language that you have for your understanding the language of your people, they have different levels sometimes they even dispute different angle you have to make it easier for in their language
maybe they speak English bested expression, different minor different if you do distinct it the hard way. Finally the fruit all the hard for our really you people showing up for when it comes to your subject, you're so careful and all conditions and this thing and study or the day or night when you run. So is so casual. is it
telling me really for every subject, people are so careful, you know, really, if you do mistake go wrong, how bad will be consequences, but when it's comfortable and we don't even make a basic effort.
Then how can I love it?
We need to be serious guidance. Any small error can actually craft you know so much for us to be careful. You know, follow the posts
What I'm saying to you nothing to will run any text, when he has to test the library, if you want to read it separately, however, the more not very old is still you will not understand many, many cars, you will need to know the Indian history of daytime, Indian mind that time man is precious, when liquid clear if you know India, if you don't know India, it will not make sense. If you want to study about you need to India you need to know his time he displays his condition, his his context, his cortex, everything, when you will know that you understand what he's saying. Then after that, if you want to be more clever how I can use this poetry to benefit our people. You can do this the
second step, but first step is going by to the time of your quad and his country's first step father, Ron Olivier, there must be going back to the time of Prophet Muhammad, and to learn carefully, properly, how did he receive the Quran? How did he understand and how did he apply the Quran? Is it clear
and make it do this and he will sit here you will not have so much you cannot imagine. I myself do this, it has so much. But if you make a directory between you and Allah, your cut Allah never revealed to me on you. We are not chosen people. Simple matter, we should within life would you like the truth? We are not chosen to receive revelation, chosen person, only one person Mohammed.
We are legally brought to him. So this, this is a historical fact. And this historical fact. Should it be respected.
of this career,
you know, you listen on a live, discuss.
But don't act accept what I say never. This is not a scholarship. But I'm a teacher. I'm not rich. I said to him with all the time. I don't want to make a group of followers or things like that. Nothing I have noticed in the world really? The I follow what Mr. Shafi so the mom shouted, my mother used to say, I love people to learn from me read my books, and then they forget me. I don't want them to know my name. Nothing. I have nothing, no interest in the world that people know my name and then not know what I'm saying nothing. I just want you really to know your religion. I want you to connect with your Lord, your book, your book, your Lord, you worship you understand him if I
just want to help the locket that was Coronavirus Casa de fiskerton to help a doctor. doctors don't make a school they only help people how to grow healthy, how are we not? How same thing it's our duty to help you how to understand how to think then after that we move away and between you and between
And if you make effort, or you do mistake is to do better than those people who don't make effort and don't do mistake I tell you
lots of people when they make effort in anything, when you make effort, you always show them that he gave us difficulty why he made all these different, reuse them that he was he want you to use the mind. Usually when you use it, he loves it. The devices in the Quran lab or the Haleakala in Asana, he said that we we created the mankind in the best structure, what is the structure method, the function that they have this structure switches that
means your life and use using the mind to I gave you my best structure for the function that you have. And then this is another versus the hardrock lead in Asana fee covered, repudiated the mankind in hardship. Why hardship because to use the mind is the hardest, most difficult thing in the world to use the mind most difficult that white people love to follow someone. If I asked you to come to my house and I give the address. Using the mind if I said you just follow my car, which one you prefer for the car or for is prompting me with all these things navigator why people follow that? Because people don't want to use the mind using the mind most tiring.
And Allah will leave Lee guides people when they become tired. He wants you to be tired. He said, When Sanofi Coburn created American hardship they want you to be you know, in hardship, if you are not in hardship, you cannot be guided. You need to work harder you need to make effort.
Is it clear?
Russia was done or
is there any other question? asker mode
have no questions.
Sorry, we're 10 minutes 10 minutes. Okay, if you have any questions.
Can you expand a bit on what you're saying about traveling to see
when you travel, you will learn so much really first thing
You've tailored to Scala, to school, to university to the college, do you have a new idea, a new environment, you learn from this new experience where you meet new people, human. Every human being is basically a source of knowledge. You learn from everybody, if open the mind, you will learn from the tree you Love from the Star from the moon, people really don't learn, you know, you pass by things, we don't
see the person what they do that will protect and help you
can take lessons from small things. They'll see the tree you know, the particular some
level one very nice point put upon by a bar in which if the tree company has to abandon
that's how unfair you got, you know, he gave you wings, you can fly, we don't have much benefit to the universe. I'm a free for all some decent debt. If he had given me when I could fly and everybody benefit from how wonderful the Word of God
I think really why he made rules for the tree.
tree cannot fly, butterfly, every creation is different from other
something just compare, you know, when the light comes, how the light comes to see when the if you open it the window, light can come through the window glass, it can come through the door,
but can light go round.
It's possible how the water comes.
Water can go around, you know it doesn't come just through you know it anything in Taiwan, you can see why he made like that Why light is this way why the water is working this way. If you just use the majestic really how Singapore the people, you know how the people are, how they behave, how the food how the people move the food differently? Or when asked question in you can learn something from Newton to sitting next underneath the tree. And I will force
to enable for people like us is just a food for the stomach. That's all we know really like like it. Like a peep. Most people really read the whole universe, either middle, eating and drinking their soul. But for some people it seems to me big fruit with the food for the month.
He could think early that's why I fell down Why didn't work. And then he discussed something useful for the community such a big thing.
But you should actually continue asking question you should ask Really? That No. Okay, it fell down to dismiss the gravity on that. But let me think really made this gravity Did anyone make it happen? That other gravity
who made on why he made what benefit there is on this I felt it very first waited for us keep looking more and more of course, you can learn so much.
Was prom really, I tell you really, knowledge in our time has become just a skill, you know skill. Like people used to make sure the skill but no wisdom. Knowledge actually has been insulted. disrespect our time more than any other time knowledgeable people wondering people have skill, they can make shoe they can make this they can learn this in the never get wisdom, not in the past always to mean to make you wise, you come and study you become wise in the real life. Your wise might not even be used to be wise, Wise Men of the other town and the city and the village people come and learn from them. take advice from them. Now learned people have no advice. They have no wisdom at
all, because they won't let you come to the musty narrow topic, focus on third party exam get degree get the job, that's your function that does not affect your life. Then anything other than that you never think never use your much You are stupid anybody else other than that narrow scope, you are either stupid or anybody else in the world. Nothing you that, that learning that not to make.
does not make you wise. Why? Because you never learn how to use the mind. You don't learn what you love me really, this is just how to fix this. There's nothing else that a very bad way of teaching but that how the world is now. Now you have to think it in my life. I learned that narrow thing. But I want to revise dental practice, travel, meet other people, other kinds of people open your mind to how other people think about the universe, how they learn, you know, come to the people who are older people how then, you know, never learn it again without any school, in a farmer in the village, how he thinks, what he experienced. It will make a wise otherwise what happens when people
just think you know, learning this industry
sitting in the classroom technique for Professor Grove to learn, they become stupid. They will get one skill, but they become stupid. They never learn how to use the mind. You need to use the mind, meaning you need to become wise. The study means to become wiser problem is people study, but they're not always physical. That's why that's why I'm trying to say that you don't force yourself to meet amazing people to take from them, then he will seriously have in mind amazing things you can do so many things will come. But people don't become wise.
And the thing is, people from Weiser in Oxford used to how can I you know, I don't understand some simple thing, because you never learn thinking understanding, you will only learn that skill, you never learn how to use the mind. Something very easy, but you don't know. The reason is because you don't you don't use the mind.
You know, you learn a police person application very narrowly,
you never really same principle can be applied in 1020 more ways, but you only apply one place, but to one application, that how you learn connection dot principles or with a more general sample response in other aspects of life is still can be applied, I can have another result and don't understand why you never learned this what you learned in connection between one application and one response narrowly nothing else. general idea never had
disappeared, we offer learning, but that very rapid learning is so common in the world, this everywhere from India to China from your very, very industrious to everywhere, we could teach you in the same way. The neighbor make basically you are not important. Simple matter, you are not important, what is important, what you produce, what like a factory, you will like a machine. Your skills are important, you are not important. They are no concern about you that you become better human being the concern that you can be part of effectively, whatever machine whatever system they're showing, they know that nothing is you are not more than that. After that if you ruin your
life, your problem.
You understand that why you need to travel, you need to meet other people. You need to learn other people sit with the people who are not similar, but that day will give you a more common wisdom.