The Quran Or Thebible
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below me shaytani r rajim
Bismillahi Rahmani Raheem
una hora Anna Willow cannon in the La la la voz de Du de la from Casa de la, la mano z. Chairman, and my dear brothers and sisters, and my children.
The subject, as has been
announced, is the Quran, or the Bible, which is God's word.
in the world today, there are some 1000 200 million Christians and 1000 million Muslims.
And they are at loggerheads on the subject of the revealed scriptures. The Christian he says that the Bible, the Holy Bible is the Word of God, and they will not accept another. And the Muslim says that the Quran is Allah, Allah is the word of God.
To begin this topic, I would like to explain to my brethren,
first, what is the Bible, see the bulk of our people, Muslims even learned Muslims. They really do not know what the Bible is.
I have been lecturing in the Middle East in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Abu Dhabi, Dubai, Bahrain, and at times, those of our brothers in the in the Middle East, they would like to have my lectures translated.
So, and I hear the translator, translating the subject that I had been speaking on, for example, what the Bible says about Mohammed Salah.
So the translator says, what the Torah, you know, I can understand I can speak Arabic, but when the man is translating, I can understand, he's saying what the Torah says about Mohammed.
So I interrupt the minister, I didn't say Torah, so he corrects himself. This is what the gene in Arabic is saying what the Injeel says about Mohammed. I said, I didn't say in G.
I said what the Bible Bible means a book.
It comes from the Greek word big loss. big loss means a book for me to get the word Bible, Holy Bible means holy, translate that holy book,
instead of saying Torah, Sabu in jail, mg. So what is happening is the Muslim gets caught out. before they start by admitting that this is not our Guru Ji.
The Bible is not the Torah is not visible is not in G. Now what we believe in is, we believe in four heavenly books.
And we named them we say, we believe in the Torah, we believe in this boo, we believe in the in G, and we believe in the forecast for Khan is the Holy Quran.
Now what is Torah?
Torah is the revelation the why that Allah is Allah gave 200 musala Salah, that is the Torah we believe that has Musa alayhis salam was a man appointed by Allah subhanho wa Taala, God Almighty. And whatever instructions were given through him is the Torah.
was given in a book form.
No, the Quran was not given in a book form. So it didn't come from heaven. In this form. Allah gave my word for it.
Thought as Abu Zaboo is the revelation
that Allah is Allah. Allah, we believe that what was given was from Allah, the engine, the engine is the revelation
that Allah, Allah, is Allah Allah, Jesus Christ.
So whatever he preached was from Allah. We acknowledge it was the truth. But where is now the Torah visible in the Indian? Where are they
So the Christians and the Jews, they make certain claims, what is the Torah? So they will tell you that in this book, the Bible, which has a number of books is like a library. We are in the library building. This Bible is a library of 66 books inside.
This is another Bible with a library of 73 books. That's also the Holy Bible.
So you see that there is no such thing as Bible meaning one book, there are Bibles and Bibles. As you see, I have brought only three different types here for actually, and they are all different. They're all different.
There is no such thing as one Bible.
So the first five books of this library, called the Bible, are named Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy. And these five books are supposed to be the books of other mucilage Allah, they are supposed to be the Torah.
But scholars, Christian scholars, they tell us, like in this one here, there are certain nose ambitions, you know, explain the situation about the value of this book. And in that,
they give you that look, these five books, where did they come from? Who was the author?
So they will tell you here
that Genesis, that's the first book of the Bible, Genesis, is the first book of Moses, but the term the world's first book of Moses, are written in inverted commas.
Excellent Exodus, the second book of Moses, the world's second book of Moses, written in inverted commas.
Leviticus, third book of Moses, in inverted commas, numbers, fourth book of Moses in inverted commas.
Deuteronomy, fifth book of Moses in inverted commas.
So you asked the man who said, Why this inverted commas? Why are you putting these words in inverted commas?
So if you don't, if you don't know you ask the person who said no, this is not what we say. We are only telling you what people say. People say that these are the books of Moses, but we that the two scholars have the highest eminence in Christian them, backed by 50 cooperating denominations, they do not believe that these books are the books of Moses.
That why should you say these are books of course, why should you say these four are when they themselves are not prepared to accept
the learned men of Christianity, not laypeople, not on daily people, and my friend, Jimmy Swaggart,
he says in one of his books, I have purchased some 30 different books of his to know, you must know your opponent, you know, when you go into battle, you don't go with eyes closed, the Muslim is used to bring eyes closed.
He goes and gets killed.
You must know what the enemy has, before you go into battle. We don't do homework, and we get hurt every time we get a 1948 the Jews not helpful to us. 56 they're not helping us 67 they're not helping to us. 73 we made a little effort had it not been for America going into direct intervention, we might have justified you know, our rights. But however, it didn't happen. But every time we go into battle, we go with our eyes closed.
allies, the allies, great allies, great, but he's telling you, prepare, prepared, be ready.
Get ready against them yesterday and to the utmost of your power, women rebuttal highly even including Steve, Zoho, the most sophisticated weapons of the time, he's telling you, but he says no, no, we are so many. We are 100 million. You know, if you do such and such a thing, we can watch all the Jews into the sea. It doesn't work that
is that we proven again and again and again doesn't work.
So this man
writes brilliantly speaks you know, mesmeric mesmerize, he does mesmerize people. He says in one of his books, that if we need factual information on any topic, we have to go to the experts. And he gives an example, that if you want to know anything about geology, you go to the geologists.
X is a beautiful principle. It's a fantastic principle. You want to know about Sharia, go to the man who knows Sharia. If you want to have some medical problem, go to the doctor. If you have some legal problems, go to the lawyer, go to the professionals.
So if we accept that and no hesitation, go to the experts now the experts have Christian them.
The experts of the Holy Bible, they are telling us that Moses didn't write these five books. But they don't tell you in that those terms, because then they won't be able to sell the book. So they put these things nicely, silently in inverted commas is left to you. If you have knowledge about inverted commas, only, then you take the joke, otherwise, you missed the mark.
The internal evidence of the books also proves that hazard musala slammed in right.
I can go into endless
discussions, I can draw your attention to numerous things, but I'll just give you two different places. One thing is that in these five books, no less than 700 times
you will read the expression.
And the LORD said unto Moses, and Moses said unto the Lord, and the Lord said unto Moses, and Moses said unto the Lord,
when you end, when you start just on the very superficial view of these phrases, you can understand that the Lord didn't write it, nor did Moses write it.
Since third party, somebody else is telling you what he has heard, maybe from hearsay, that you see, these were words given back to Moses and Moses, again, spoke like this, and like that, if he has a musala, Salah Moses, if he had written these words, if he had noted them down, he would have said, And the LORD said unto me, and I said unto the Lord, and I spoke to the Lord, and the Lord said unto me, that's in the first person, this is somebody writing the third person. That means, you know, speaking from hearsay, so Allah didn't dictate it, not in a laminated, very face of it.
So can you blame the biblical scholars for telling us that Moses didn't write it, put them in inverted commas? Now you can blame them.
Then in the last chapter of the last book, supposed to be the book of Moses?
In the book of Deuteronomy, chapter 34, read about the obituary of masala Salah in arbitrary when a man dies, you put some nice beautiful avatax on his tombstone, you know this here lies Mr. Medina, one of the great comparative study, you know, scholars, students of religion, and so on and so on. You know, you might put it after I'm gone. obituary. So hello. Musa Salam is supposed to have written his own obituary, listen.
and then Moses died in the land of more he died, is alive, but he died in the land of Moab over against with fear, and no man no birth of his sepal. And to this day, no man knows about where his grave is up to today.
Is this man walking in fashion? But is he telling you that his grave is somewhere? And nobody knows where it is today after today? Did he write that that he died when he was alive? Doesn't he know his language that this is past tense, he's still alive. And he says I died. Oh, he could have made a prophecy. Like, if I were to make a prophecy, ss You know, I'm going to all over the country. And we'll be visiting Washington. And you know, I will die there in Washington, and Reagan will attend my funeral. Maybe it won't happen, anything like that. But can you say no, I can say that now that I think well, you know, I had a dream, or somebody tickled me and I have some voices who say this is
what is going to happen. I can tell you that that I will die in Washington, DC, and Reagan and Mrs. Reagan, they will attend my funeral.
But, you know, when I'm still alive, how can I say that I died in Washington, DC. And Reagan was there. How can I say that? That I died when I'm talking to you now I'm alive. Has it musallam could never have uttered those words that he died. Then it says And Moses was simple grammar, simple, basic English.
And Moses was 120 years old when he died most
that I was 120 years old when I died when he's still alive.
And his natural powers had not abated. You know, physically, he was still fit.
I think I'm fit. I'm 69 he was twice my age. But he was fit. The wordings convey that if you had another 16 year old for a wife, you could have done justice to her. You know, his natural powers, physical powers, sexual powers had not made that he was still strong.
Say that? You know, you think he would talk like that.
Telling people this is you know, I'm still writing.
These are not his words. And they arose not a profit sales in Israel like unto Moses
When the Lord knew face to face sales in Israel, since when
did Moses say that? No, can you see on the face of it, these books are not the books of masala and hence they are not the word of God.
Then there are certain other things about these books, five books. In these five books, there are five cases of incest.
Actually, I'm sorry. In the first book,
The five the first one Genesis, there are five cases of incest.
And the bulk of the people in the Middle East, you know, when I was asking them as please put up your hands, those who don't know what incense is, and quite a fair proportion put up there as a look nothing to be ashamed of. We don't have to, we can't claim that I know every word even sometimes sometimes simple words, they beat me.
So I said, Please put up your hands. Those of you who do not know the meaning of the word incest, don't be ashamed. Just put up your hands. And if everybody knows, then I can carry on if you don't ever have to explain. Please put up your hands those who don't know the word incest. If you don't all of you know my sisters, you know what is incest, all of you know. Marsha, Marsha, this is a stupendous discovery.
And this discovery is
very good. But of course, we are Americans. You see,
I was talking about the Adams.
For the benefit of those, you know, I could have like
mula masala, you know, he was a character among us. And this character, he was reputed to be a very, very
knowledgeable person on him. He used to wear this nice big turbans, and instead of the stupid, you know, not like me, you see, he used to have the jukebox and wherever he went, people flocked around him. And they thought that he was a very learned man. So he goes into a city and everybody that was young will join on Friday. So everybody says, Melissa, have you ever look leaders in the US Army, we want you to lead. We want you to deliver the hotbar and leaders in Salah
is very shy, he knows he can make the grade, but they force in
such a nice big, lovely beard, lovely turban and lovely clothes.
So the first thing, the poor fella goes on to the member.
And he says
Do you know what I'm gonna speak about?
He said yes.
Then I don't have to waste my time.
You know what, I'm gonna speak up? Why waste time you.
So he got himself, you know, recused
himself. The following Friday is still in the town. So the catch him again, you must. So he goes on to the member again, Juma time for the foot back. And he's asking the same question. It says, Do you know what I'm going to talk about? Today decided this is not this guy. When he said last week when you said we know he got scot free? They said no, no, we don't know. So I said, Look, in that case, it says nuisance in talking to you.
So the following week, the following week, they still in the same city. So they brought him again, on to the member.
And he poses the same question. He says people don't learn. He's posing the same question. He said, Do you know what I'm going to speak about? So they had decided this and look, man, this guy got off twice. This time, we'll make doubly sure that we catch him. So he said half of us must say yes. And half of them will say no.
So they didn't exactly have said yes. have said no. They said look, those of you who know.
And you got off again.
I don't think
so. Insist is a small word. But incense you see when you go about, you know
galavanting and you go and interfere with somebody else's wife or daughter out of marriage. We call it Xena is adultery, fornication, that, you know, stay out of marriage have any relationship with a woman
is Xena fornication.
But if you did the very same thing with your mother that's incensed.
If you did it with your daughter, that's incest. If you did it with your sister is insist, if you did it with your daughter in law is incest. And there are five cases of incest in this book of God in inverted commas. Book of God I say in inverted commas. I don't say the book of God. But there are five cases of incest in the first two
book of the Bible
as if it is a text book on incest.
retell, you know what, what types of incest and you commit, you know you might not have the imagination, sister you can do to your daughters you can do with your sister You can read with your mother you can do with your daughter in law, by different cases in a book of God.
God took the trouble of dictating. musallam can write about
a brother in Prophet luthiery Salah.
After the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, we are told in this first book that he goes and live in a place in a key in Zoo with his two daughters. And night after night, the daughters make the father drink and seduce him and collect his seed.
They collect the father seed isn't normal thought they had, you know, the father is old. And there is not another man on earth, who can come into us in the manner of men says come let us make our father drink wine, and we will live with him so that we may preserve the seat of our father. He thought what he thought, and they did it to the Father and the firstborn, gave birth to a child called mohab. And the second one gave birth to a child called Amon. From here, we get the Ammonites and the mobiles. And these were blessed by God.
God bless them.
When the Jews were told to go and kill the Palestinians, the Philistines,
God tells them according to this holy book, go and kill them all men, women and children.
Even saplings are not to be spayed, you know little children stuck in the mother's breast even they are not to be spayed, wipe them out.
And even donkeys excuse me, even donkeys mostly since the the gunk is coming.
What harm could they have done to you?
On another occasion, the same God of mercy according to the Bible, he's telling the Jews this repeats the same formula go and kill them all men, women and children.
Only virgins you must pay for yourself, which new men have known, and the court for themselves out of the Palestinian woman, that tea and 2000 virgins which no man had known, and out of that, that the Emperor was for the Lord God?
Can you imagine God having a share in your virgins and ask you what does he do with virgin? No, in the name of the Lord, the priests will enjoy them. hobbies.
And you say the book of God, God you like that? Then you must go find them out, which is within reason we will she is not a wedding killer.
Little children of God killer with a male or female killer, but big enough, and you think they can come into use verify, verify how can you verify stuff? Because God
says no. This is not the book of God. Nor is it the Book of Mormon. Why would he go and drop his brother profit down to that level of committing incest with his own daughters? Then they tell you that if I'm Alyssa law permitted instance with the sister there's a Sarah was a system.
Then they tell you the Reuben one of the sons of jacobellis Allah, he goes in with his mother on the roof.
And he said is I was told, people told us a look, your son was enjoying his mother on the roof. And he didn't even say
he didn't use.
It is nothing, nothing, not one word from him.
As he was very happy to hear the news.
Then Judah, the father of the Jewish race, from whom we get the word Judea, from which we get the word Judaism houda, Yehuda, yahudi, Judah,
he goes in cahoots with his daughter in law by the roadside
is going to Tim net to share a sheep and he sees his woman sitting by the wayside, and you think she's a prostitute a harlot. So he comes up to her and says, allow me to, I'm only reading the Holy Bible.
Allow me to come in unto thee.
This is classical King James English, which you know, not King James English this hour, Jimmy Swaggart, he takes oath by this, this is the best Bible that there is an encoding from there is by the King James Version. It says, allow me to come in and to z. So she says what will that give me is that I'll give you a kid from the flop a good kid, so what guarantee that they will give it because after you enjoy and you're gone, maybe I never see you again. So what guarantee Do you want is that your significance your ring and your bracelet? Maybe the securities and your staff, you know the rock Dorado
so the whole man gave it to her, and he COVID his daughter in law and made her pregnant and she bought twins. And these twins, fat, and Zara are the great grandfather's of Jesus Christ. In the Holy Bible. first chapter of Matthew. First Book of the New Testament, chapter one, verse one, it begins.
This is the genealogy of Jesus Christ, the son of Abraham, the son of David and Abraham begat Isaac, and Isaac
Because Jacob and Jacob begat Judas and his brethren and Judas, wicked Pharisees and Zara of Tamar, who are this Book of Genesis chapter 38. He tells us the father in law cohabiting with his daughter in law and produces bastard children, children of insects, and they are the great grandfather's of the Christian God, Jesus Christ, a man who had no genealogy. They don't give him a genealogy for genealogies. Between the two they give him 66 fathers and grandfathers, a man who had no father, they give him 66, fathers and grandfathers, and God is not one of them.
Can you imagine? He is the Son of God, but he was not there in either genealogy.
My son is here.
Imagine me dictating to you
his genealogy, and I give to him, you know, for memory 66 fathers and grandfathers, but I'm not one of them.
I'm not one of those 66 What am I telling you?
What am I telling you? That is a bastard 66 times over? No.
What does it mean? I give you 66 fathers and grandfathers to my son, and but I am not one of them. What am I say?
men with no father 66. And out of the 66 there are six masters and because of masters, according to their own records, in the book of God, is this the book of God?
I says, You know, I can go in
the New Testament, it begins.
Every book, new book begins. Matthew, it says the Gospel according to St. Matthew, the Gospel according to St. Mark the Gospel according to St. Luke, the Gospel according to St. JOHN, I'm asking what is according according according
why according to according to according to I read little books was well, you know, but you'll find my name that by a hottie that is not according to MIT that
if you wrote it, thinking that I had said I mean such and such thing, then you can say, according to Mr. D, that, you know, this is this theory, or this is what he said, it might not be true. You might have misunderstood. But if I write a book, I put my name. Matthew didn't write his name. Mark didn't write his name. Luke didn't write his name. JOHN didn't write his name. These are anonymous books.
And you think well, maybe you know, this count can only come from Mr. Dida. So you put it as this can only come from brother farrakhan. So you put his name, this can only come from brother Maurice mahama. So you put his name, you have no right to do that. Nobody has a right to do that.
You are doing injustice for the man. If you haven't said that. You might not be quoting exact.
So, according to Matthew, according to Mark, according to Luke, according to St. JOHN, and internal evidence shows that also that they do like the book.
This is what you see from the outside on the hidden they put the Christians who did.
So the internet evidence you read Matthew nine, nine, I said Matthew nine, nine, but Matthew didn't write it. Why do I say that? Matthew nine nine when Matthew didn't write it. You see Jamie Phillips, Jamie Phillips, a prebuilt, MRI of the Chichester Cathedral in England, a page seven of the Anglican Church. He translated the Gospels in the modern English, because the English that I'm quoting to you, is a bit archaic in old fashioned, because I'm reading from the King James Version.
A lot of people they love it. They love that language of the King James Version, so I use it, and also used it. But Jamie Phillips, in his preface to the Gospel of St. Matthews.
He says, early tradition, ascribed this gospel to the apostle Matthew, early tradition. That's what people say that this is the book of Matthew, early tradition, ascribed this gospel to the apostle Matthew. But scholars nowadays almost all reject this view. Hindu scholars, Muslim scholars, Jewish scholars, no Christian scholars of the highest eminence, backed by 50 cooperating denominations, they say,
this is what they say. Scholars nowadays almost all reject the view that Matthew wrote Matthew, the author, we may still conveniently call Matthew.
He's telling you the first book of the New Testament, Chapter One was one. Why am I wasting your time my time?
No, I say Matthew nine nine, Matthew 517. Conveniently I'm using the word Matthew. See the author who we may still conveniently call metric has plainly drawn on the mysterious Q, this Q, the letter Q is also in inverted commas. But they're trying to say that q stands for the German word quelab. Well, I'm in sauces. Therefore in the order
The sponsors they know what they're talking about in the CQ,
which may have been a collection of oral traditions, he has used Mark's gospel freely. Matthew has used Mark's gospel freely in the language of the school teacher, he has been copying wholesale from Mark.
And Mark was a 10 year old boy, when Jesus walked this earth, Matthew is supposed to be a disciple of Jesus and I witness and your witness as he goes and copies that 10 year old boy who wasn't there.
And you say this is the book of Matthew, for Matthew, what kind of what kind of mind did he have? What kind of ideas did he have? That he goes and copy somebody else when he was an eyewitness and your witness? Now we know Matthew didn't write Matthew, this is it. You don't have to be very clever. You don't have to be a DD or a need to know these things.
Just a little observation, and you can see through and through, you can deal with tigers and the likes of him, anytime anything. Allah has given us that this. But we don't
say we listen and we enjoy and survive, you go home and go to sleep. You have to do a little bit of homework.
In other words, now you see this inside, look, let me check. Let me see something. And you see the verse
says, Matthew nine, nine, I told you open it up Matthew nine, nine, what does it say? It says, while he referring to Jesus was going forward into the way see this is the old English King James English. While he was going forth into the way he Jesus saw a tax collector called Matthew. And he Jesus came up to him Matthew, and told him, Matthew, follow me, Jesus, and he met you followed him Jesus. I'm asking that Matthew write that.
But Jesus right that who wrote?
Can you see, this is not the words of Matthew, these are not the words of God. And these are not the words of Jesus. This is not the inchi we believe in angels. What is the angel as an angel is the revelation that Allah gave her the Salah, and the Bible tells us this Bible, it tells us, Matthew tells us that Jesus went to a certain place and he preached the gospel, in Arabic in
gospel means good news, translated into Arabic, in G, he went in the in G, Mark says he went to a certain other place, and he preached the
gospel. Luke tells us that he went to a certain place and he preached the gospel in G. And john tells us that Jesus went to a certain other place, and he preached the gospel in G.
I'm asking, did he carry a book around under his arm under his?
Did he enjoy that he every time he took it out?
In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God. And the word was? What is that what he was doing? Whatever revelation ye Allah gave him that is the gene. Now, the question themselves, you don't have to do any homework. With regards to the Bible, you don't have to make any new discoveries, whatever they gave you learn from them and use it. They tell you now they translate the Bible, the New Testament into Arabic.
They have for the Arabs, 11 different Arabic Bibles.
I have samples of them 11 different I thought there was only one Arabic language. But I'm now told that there are 11 different dialects and every dialect group is a look, we got it for you. Your Palestinian you got it for you. What are you, Moroccan we got it for you to mission reporting for Southern Sudan reporting for you. What are you serious?
11 different Bibles for the
in Arabic, different dialects.
So they feel that you have no excuse for rejecting the blood of Christ. Lee 11 different Bibles make it easy for you.
So the Arabic translation, the book begins, is in GLA Matthew, in GLA Marcus in GLA Lucas in GLA yohanna.
We accept you say in GLA Matthew, Mark, Luke, john. Okay. I said Where is Angela Isa?
Look, we believe what did we say? We say we believe in the in jail. When we say in jail. It is a revelation that was given to her Isa that is what we believe. Not wanting to if at all. If you want to Matthew, Mark, Luke and john who are the foosball, Peter and James.
We are made to accept that is the Rahim Allah gave he Salah Salah in Gili, Isa, bring it and we will give it a sympathetic consideration. If it doesn't matter, these are, but these are not the books of can you see, look, they're telling you. Why must you go out of your way and say this is the Torah. This is the inducer support and you get caught up with it.
his lack of knowledge. Now, all this information is available really free.
In a book called is the Bible God's Word? published by me big without free. I sent out 10,000 to your great country from from South Africa, airlifted them 10,000 is the Bible, God's Word 5000 crucifixion of crucifixion and 1000s of other pamphlets and literature airlifted from South Africa costing me more than 20,000 Rand in postage.
That's to be my rant is worth more than $1 in my country, on the commercial market is worth about 50 cents. But internally, that brand is worth more to me, I can get more for my land, then you can go get for your $2 here.
Moran is worth more in my country than your $2 are worth here. You buy some tea and cakes. Yeah, what your $2 can bring my run brings it for me. On the other side, I spent 20 more than 20,000 on posting. Now your government has brought in all this is now look, you know there's some trade sanctions has been introduced against my country, deservedly they deserve it. But now I said, Look, this has got nothing to do with this. You know, we are not doing business. We are not trying to sell something to you, we will give it out free of charge. But now there's a problem there. We wanted these books to be they're available at Baton Rouge, give it to the people let them take them home in
a permanent record of what I said and more more than what I'm saying because I can say in 15 minutes, 60 minutes, you know what I can say in a book. But that book is available to absolutely free of charge, you must find out, you know, brother, Hamid Ali, you know, he'll be handling the books, but I know our people, you know, we have developed a type of mentality of get get get we haven't learned to give us a look. You're killing them and they've been killing me. Arabs have been killing me. Arabs, this * my free literature when I say free, I give them free. But with that I send a note I said look, the literature is free as promised. But please consider the postage. I
said you see the poor systems on the cover of the emblem. It says five runs and 50 cents it means $5.50 at one time my dollar was worth more than my run was worth more than your dollar. So I said look, five rounds means $5. So if you will consider that for all the other literature but no mention of postage. Now it's a habit. It's a habit. Not that they're misers. They have been but the generality of people we haven't learned to give the Christian Give, give give. That's what makes Jimmy Swaggart What is
it his book on Roman Catholicism, he's saying that he is now appearing that when he wrote the book on over 700 commercial TV stations.
only one station in the whole of South Africa. And this guy's talking about 700 1000s of cable channels. So what is all that? And he is he says he needs $291,000 a day to keep his head above water that he doesn't drown. It doesn't go insolvent $291,000 a day, I put a calculator and work it out 160 million a year not to go insolvent. Then I'm just reading a book while on my way from from Dubai.
His magazine called evangelist and now he's talking about his uh, he wants a million dollars a day.
You get it. There's something about these people, you know, when they the people when they go off, they go off.
But those that are there, you know, they give not only the 10% tights, out of the wages out of the income 10% we can give one half 140 and we can give you know that the Muslims can give to another person. If you only gave two and a half percent man, we have no problems in the world.
You can get one out that guy's given 10% he has only $1,000 a month $100 goes to the church first. First 100 goes 1200 a year. I'm asking which milking cow can give you that without you feeding it. The Christian car. He gives you 1200 a year you don't have to feed him. And when they go into the lecture, I'm seeing his tapes. He says the offerings that they may select because I'm seeing such and such a thing. Good that you're offering spam. In other words they have to make an offering before coming in. They don't send those plates around anymore. The buckets. Last time I came along in Chicago Mostyn
these two cent buckets, buckets, plastic buckets, and people put in their $1 note $5 note that they were paying through the Moses what
they paid for it, they appreciate it. We get it for nothing, everything in my country, hot and cold water, you know air conditioning, beautiful carpets, everything free.
So we create that mentality
Bigger mentality. Can you give me something bigger? You are a millionaire, but you're still the biggest mentalities today is not living. The Christian says, pray for me.
Pray for me, telling you give me money.
I understand you, I told you pray for me.
my feet, my feet
However, I said, the Quran and the Bible, which is God's word,
I have taken I think, more than sufficient time for the Bible. And you get the book and you see, it is not the book of God, the Word of God, is it a, it is the Alaska Lannister. In the Bible, we can say it's not that good words, good teachings, what are the profit is there? What are the historian is there? And there are other things besides which no decent man can read to his sister, mother, daughter, or even his fiance, if she's a good woman?
Shall I give you examples of that? You see, Word of God, I see the word of God is there. The Bible as a book as a whole person is not the book of God,
by the word of God.
You can say everything is rubbish. Everything is to be thrown away. No, because we are doing justice to the book, the Word of God, like in the book of Deuteronomy, chapter 18, verse 18, you read.
And you can, as it sounds, as if God Almighty is talking to his new Salah Salaam, he says, I will raise them up a prophet from among the brethren like unto thee, and I will put my words in his mouth, and he shall speak unto them or that I shall command here, who is this I, you don't have to be a doctor of divinity.
To recognize that this is God Almighty talking to his masala Salah.
I will raise them up a prophet from among the president, like into the means like you like Moosa and I got on mighty will put my words in his mouth, and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command
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calamity for me.
This is from the Arabic Bible. So in other words, we can recognize as if God is talking, no hesitation in
Or another example, of the same time in the book of Isaiah.
God says, Remember the former things of old, for I am God, and there is no one else. I am God and this one like me. Now, these words were uttered by the prophet Isaiah, but we can read and the Jews knew that he was not claiming divinity, that I am God, and there's none as I am God in this man like me know, when he did that, he was only quoting God's words, he was acting as a mouthpiece of God, we recognize that these are the words of God.
That's one type of evidence. The other type of evidence a prophet of God talking in the New Testament, I give you examples.
Jesus says, it hasn't been said by them of own time.
times gone by, it has been said by them of all time, Thou shall not commit adultery, But I say unto you, but I say unto you, Whosoever looketh upon a woman to lust after her, hath committed adultery with her already in his heart, who's talking? A prophet of God? Is Jesus. He says, again, another place, it has been said, by them of own time that whosoever puts away his wife, let him give it a bill of divorcement. But I say unto you, who says I, Jesus, equals again, another place, so it has been said, by them of own time and eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth, But I say unto you, this is not evil, he strikes you in the right cheek in the other, who's this I Jesus, words of a prophet
These are the words of God. Now you see the words of the prophet of God. third type of evidence from the Gospel of St. Mark. It says, while he, Jesus was going forth into the way, he Jesus, so effectively with leaves, he Jesus happily came up to it, wanting to find fix, there aren't, but when he came up to it, he found nothing but he found nothing but leaves for the season was not yet who's talking, not God, not Jesus, but an eyewitness or a witness, or somebody speaking from here saying what he had heard.
Can you see that type of Word of God, what does the Prophet would have the historian and I witness a you witness or somebody writing for him, he is for time.
The fourth type
my government bandage in the country, South Africa, my own government is banned in the country in South Africa.
I have care production from the Holy Bible, a chapter and from this chapter, you will find that certain writings are engraved. read those writings and whether nine extracts, somebody had published it, the Word of God in inverted commas for free distribution.
And this, somebody drew the sensor board's attention to it. And the South African censorship board, they banned the country, not knowing that these are extracts from the Holy Bible, in inverted commas. They went
the same government of mine is very strict, very stringent. Unlike your Christian nation, you see in South Africa by some of the books I can buy at Kennedy Airport.
If I go into the country, I go to jail for two years with your playboy. If I go with him, I go to jail for two years. That's how staunch my Christian white government is, as far as religiosity is, for example.
So seeing this, and on the board, there were two priests, and even they couldn't recognize that this is the word of God, they banned it.
I say on that basis is on the basis that
one word, there was one undesirable word in a book called lady Chatterley's lover and all, one word, a four letter word, one word for that they banned the book for 20 years in my country. 20 years, that book was banned. Now they banned it, they become a little more broad minded.
See day by day pornography, you keep on seeing the soft porn then come hard porn and then it becomes I don't know what other degrees is it? It keeps on escalating. So likewise, for one word, the venerable for 20 years now they're broad minded, this look that book is now you can read it now you have grown which you can read.
But still these nine extract from the Holy Bible that says if you can book a band, a book for one word, nine extracts why shouldn't you ban another book? Nine extra, but how can he How can they they take goes by this? You see when you go to the court they take oath by this it makes the non Muslim also
speak the truth and nothing but the truth so help me God. Everybody has to put his hands on the world. How can you bend
it is so filthy so dirty, that I would only say My dear brothers and sisters, if you have the guts, the courage but I think you will have the guts and the courage. You know, as soon as you switch on your TV somewhere along the line you see things there that you will have to change quickly. See, this is no man this is undesirable. You will have to censor it yourself.
Your TV, your TV's 24 hours a day. You just bam get some station and you get something.
Put it on.
So you people are used to you're used to read it.
Read book of Ezekiel, chapter 23. The whoredoms of those two sisters, you know what they did? And how and how para mas you know her lovers. You know what type of lover she had. You read it for yourself. No decent man can read it is mother, sister or daughter or even to his fiancee if she's a good woman, Book of God, God speaking words which you are ashamed to imagine, if I tell you suppose I was a Christian. As an uncle, I want you to read Ezekiel chapter 23. And I want for the edification of these people. I want you to read it.
And I said no, I can't read it yet. So I was wrong uncle as soon as too horrible.
But is the word of God if God was not ashamed to utter those words and expressions, and those descriptions?
Why should I be ashamed? Am I holier than God? Can you be holier than God? If God was not ashamed? Why should you be ashamed?
You ever seen?
This is not the word of God. And hamdulillah in Islam, we also have this four types of literature we have but our literature is in four different compartments.
See, we have the word of God. In the Quran,
we have the words of the Prophet Sabri booth
we have the words our historian Mr. masala and so on ever seen several books. We have our Arabian Nights. Yes. The others around the campfire in the desert before Islam he had it. How did he pass this time? This filthy dirty stories. I read it the unexpurgated edition of the Arabian Nights by Fitzgerald when I was young
Read it and I loved it, I enjoyed it again and again.
At that time, I didn't know that I could have bought at 2625 cent Holy Bible
25 cents. And I forgot everything that I was looking for here, but I was hunting everywhere else,
So we have the book of God, separate the words of the Prophet separate the words of the history separate and our Arabian night separate. And we do not treat them on equal level we don't,
nobody does. No Muslim will say, the Quran and Hadees is equal to the Quran. Or the our historian, Imam Hassan II, you know, he's writing equal to, No, nobody does or equal to you. Nobody says that. They're all on different different levels, and separate separate compartments. The Bible, unfortunately, everything is in one book. The book of God is there, the book of the prophet is there, the book of the historian is there and pornography is there, all in one book. And he doesn't know how to take things out how to separate it, he can't, he cannot say take this out and throw it away. You can't. There are millions and millions of Bible in the world is the world's best seller.
So this is the Bible.
You have to know something about your living environment, or the Bible, the Bible, the Bible, you must know about the Bible, it'll make your task is to deal with people to discuss with people to attract people.
need approval? I know the answer is not necessary. But I'll give you a few examples. This book,
purely on its human level, it's condensed on the human level. We're not talking about whether it's Alaska llama, not just on the human level.
If Muhammad Sallallahu wasallam, if he wrote this book, if he wrote this book, let's accept it for a moment, the enemy's chart that Muhammad wrote the book, so that he wrote the book, I said, this book written by Muhammad, he said, Yes. I said, you know, there are 40 different authors put together wrote this book 44 to 40, the Bible of the 66 books written by 40 different persons put together produce this book, this one man job. Come on, tell me now, how can you compare? can you compare one man job 40 people had to do this on the human level as outclasses everything that you got, and besides this, one book gives you answers to all your problems.
all your problems are answered here. Here, the 66 marks you haven't got the answers yet. You're fumbling, you don't know what to do with your alcoholics. You can write very strongly, Jimmy Swaggart, he wrote a book on alcohol is a great curse in America a major problem of America. And he gives figures.
You know, this is statistics, you must have heard from the experts. He says there are 11 million drunkards in America. 11 million.
Right. That's your figure. 11,000,040 4 million heavy drinkers. drinkers are people who can't control themselves. The others are heavy drinkers. They almost closed by. And he says, and we have to agree with him. He said, I see no difference between the two. Between the drunk cards and the heavy drinkers is I don't see any difference between 55 million grant cards according to Jimmy swagger. I said one step further. Come with us a step further in Islam.
Your social drinkers as well include them into your list, because the Holy Prophet Muhammad he said whatever intoxicating greater quantity is forbidden even in smaller quantity, no excuse for a number of pot.
include them as well. So you're more than 100 million drinker.
answer to the problem.
Only Islam has.
What does it say? one verse is meant to him. Yeah, you know,
in normal some roles most certainly intoxicants while myself when gambling while and Sabu and fortunetelling. While Islam and idol worship, normally shaytaan an abomination of Satan's handiwork. phlogiston ibux lolicon sessions examination that you may prosper.
The safety lies in abstinence, and the only religion on the face of the earth, which says don't touch that devilish stuff is Islam. There is not another religion on Earth. There is not another religious book on Earth, which says don't touch it. Don't go anywhere near it.
The Christian missionaries and he's complaining about them. He himself a preacher, evangelist, he's complaining about other preachers
Other evangelist, he said they can take up a stand against alcohol. He said at the conference of evangelist is that people were asked how many of you are prepared, you take a stand against alcohol, please stand up. And this is hardly anybody stood up.
Because they say and the reason the preacher the born again, he's got a new spirit into him. He says, you know, the Spirit dwells in him. He's got the Spirit of God in him, you know, he can see no more.
These sinless people, you know, they say justify doing by saying that Jesus Christ turned water into wine at the marriage preset kana. If it is good enough for Allah god, it's good enough for us. That's the logic and the logic.
And they say that this is the same Wi Fi wine, which lot drank and cohabit with is not the same wi any wine in Greek. This
Christ would turn water into wine. He is not a killjoy, fly, shouldn't we be killjoys?
Look, the logic is good. Now.
The reason is because we haven't got it. And the reason you haven't bought it is Jesus Christ. Before he parted. He says, I have yet many things to say unto you, but you cannot be with them. Now. I have many things to tell you. But you can bear it, you haven't got the capacity. You are like little children.
And the truth of this statement is writ large. In the New Testament, again and again, Jesus speaks about his disciples, He tells him he have little faith, ye of little faith, you've got no fake demand, without faith. How many times dozens of times and he explains to them as he was explaining to little children, and they can't understand. So he said I even yet without understanding yet. What's wrong with you? And when he's provoked further, he says, Oh faithless and perverse generation, How long shall I be with you? How long should I be with you? As if Jesus was a Japanese instead of a Jew, he would have committed that honorable harakiri suicide.
Look this, everything he says they misunderstand everything and everything he has said his, his followers, disciples of today, they misinterpret everything without exception. I can give you examples. So Jesus says, How be when he The Spirit of Truth is come, He will guide him. For he shall not speak from himself, but what things we shall hear that shall he speak and he shall declare unto you the things that are to come, he shall glorify Me,
who is the Spirit of Truth? So the Christian says the Holy Ghost who's got it? Everyone, every church, in my country, there are 1000 different churches and denominations among the whites of South Africa, and 3000 blacks. This morning, I had a confirmation that you have 14 different Baptist churches in America different one won't go to the other Baptist Church. Me I don't have music in the church you have you is a jazz music, but he he doesn't know dancing and all the different Baptist churches in America. I don't know altogether how many sex and I'm discovering new new names, which I didn't know before. Paris new new couch. Jesus only is a new card. And I know this one Jimmy
Swaggart, I didn't know that there was a Jesus only that means the father is Jesus. The Holy Ghost is Jesus and Jesus is Jesus.
That's Jesus. Only people in your mix. Your funny funny things here in
America is that I for anything? America is ready for me.
You see, look, Sun Myung Moon, the Korean. You know, he comes here and he said he is Jesus Christ in a second coming. And there are people prepared to worship Him. There was then there was a wonderful blacks. You know, Father divine, he's dead now. This father be what he claimed to be God. And the Caucasian the white man worshiped him and the black man worship didn't everybody worship him? He got to make the claim. Swami Prabhupada who started this Hari Krishna movement that people wish to dream is called Guru Maharaj Ji, the man who never gets old he's only 16. You know, the worshipping has gone. Maharishi. They worship Him. There is a Satan worshipping cult as anything goes. I want to
know why Stan won't go.
It won't go because you are not opening your mouth. Judo yoga inferiority complexes beyond measure the amount of inferiority complexes my Muslim Brothers suffer. Yeah, I don't know today but in 1977, nine years ago, I came here
and I was traveling they made me to travel from city to city every night in new bed, new town. So we found from here to Indianapolis, it's a look Dida is coming and he is prepared to lecture to you on a certain night and advertise the subject. what the Bible says about Mohammed Salah. This is a good start, you know to give people a background, how to get started what the Bible says about Muhammad. When I arrived in Indianapolis, the taking me to the lecture room, as well.
Have you done? What have you advertised? So now we have some pamphlets what you call stickers, or they call them leaflets taken out, flyers
taken out, as it's gonna have a look. So they give it to me. And I read, it says, a prophet in the Bible, as a prophet in the Bible. What does a prophet mean? And your university students? You fools. What is a prophet? A means any, you know that? Not? If there's a prophet, there is a what, which one are you talking about? They might question you, but he's a prophet in the Bible. 75. I mentioned Which one are you interested in? I asked you
are you going to department store in a supermarket and you want to buy? I want to buy a thing? What
will the Soviet citizen lunatic
buy a thing?
It's, it's hard to imagine the inferiority complexes that you people suffer from
I, I exclude my black brothers out of that. I'm talking about my people from the east, you know, Arabs and Pakistanis, and Bangladeshis. I'm talking about them. Yeah, I take off my head to my African brothers.
After 300 years of hammering these people, they have become one of the most militant Muslim communities in the world. And that was my boss, my people is not my race, because I come from India, Pakistan subcontinent. We are a softer people than these brothers of mine that we call the Malays. I said, they are the most militant Muslim community in the world. And to Chicago, I have to say them, I'm sorry, I will withdraw that now what I was talking previously, the most militant Muslim community in the world is the black Muslim of South America.
We don't mind I'm not ashamed to say we will come close second.
But the inferiority complexes, I go to Chicago. I'm sorry. I go to Washington, DC.
And we have a great debate between father Gabriel Duff,
the head of the Roman Catholic Church in inter church relationship, and Asma de la,
from across the Atlantic. How many people turned on this case? How many? How many? How many
do indeed, not 1021 score and most of them are women and children.
Your Nia according to a near you get the Baraka, your blessings come according to your needs.
Like a woman, you know, you you're afraid to say Bible, Mohammed, you afraid? So you get you get the results you're getting. You're terrified. You know why you're terrified? I discovered it. Why are you terrified these Muslims from the Far East, my people? Why are they terrified? They're expatriates. They came here to study and now after study this event, opportunity is great here. You know, we can make money. Life is more comfortable than going back to India or Pakistan or Bangladesh or to the Arab countries. This is now look at Libya. So it's another look I make an application for domiciled. They said they give you what you call for five years on probation. And now, this is not
if I see one thing that the the people that CIA or FBI won't like he said they won't accept me. That is your mentality. You have sold your faith for a mess of pottage that now that continues you got your your your paper, you know they can kick you out now, but still you are terrified that psychology keeps with you. inferiority complex that says get it out. And the only thing that can make you do that is that take up the Quran. Allah read the Quran, with understanding and wildlife you read it with understanding you can't sit on your backside doing nothing. When Allah tells you this is
he says, When does he Ursula Rasulullah who Buddha he This was sent His messenger with guidance where the mill Hawk and with the religion of truth, you use a hero who will acknowledge that it may prevail, overcome and supersede every other Deen every other way of life.
No mine, the unbeliever might not like it. Then you repeat the same formula and he ends by saying well Okay, now my outcome I might not like it. This is the destiny of his Dean. Then you repeat the same formula. Another place three times in the Quran.
Who Eleazar Salah rasuluh Buddha, he is West sent His messenger with guidance what the new Hawk and with the religion of truth is using here while at the Nicolay that it may prevail overcome and supersede every other day. Whether it be Hinduism, Buddhism, Christianity, Islam, communism, Judaism, every isms time is destined to master them all bulldoze them all. worker fabula
Waka fabula shahida. Allah says, Allah is a witness to this fact that is going to make his being to prevail with you or without you.
He can do it. But he wants to give you and me that privilege that honors that we are the rubbish that we are. He wants you and me to earn a profit reward. He was
As you do your profits job and earn profits reward, you can become profit anymore. Kareem salatu salam was the last and final messenger of God. Anybody after that tells me he has been hearing why says he needs a psychiatry
the word that Allah has given bestowed upon us the honor, the privilege is given to us is the work of the prophets of God. And if you do a prophet Job, you must earn a profit reward Unless Unless and just he makes you do the work of Reagan, and he builds you for a sweepers wage.
min min do that, but not a lot, you do a perfect job, you earn a profit reward. It's a privilege Allah has given us as a My dear brothers and sisters, take it up, take the Quran in one hand, and the Bible in the other here you need it, you need them both the Quran and the Bible, so you can catch fish, the other guy knows how to catch fish, he knows how to bait you. So you have to use that bait to say now look, wait a minute. Now let us see let us examine. And this is what Allah tells you this whole how to handle anything they come with is I tell them, where is your proof? Where is your bullhorn? Let us have a look. In other words, you analyze it. And you present your case. With these
words, Mr. Chairman and brother in law in this heat, I think I have taken quite a lot of your time. And of course, at question time, I'm still I will still be at your disposal. Any questions on the subject or of the subject? It doesn't matter. But don't ask me questions, the matters of Sharia, you go to your learned men, I am an expert in comparative religion. And in that field, you make me happy when you ask me questions, because now you've had the answer. You know, I shine. You asked me other questions, and I apologize because this guy knows nothing. So don't embarrass me in front of my system.
I'd like to thank our brother and Matt for enlightening us on the competitive aspect of Quran and Bible. I apologize for the limited space and also the spending, but hopefully they increase our heat up.
We are going to
very shortly and after after we'll meet again for the question.
if you have questions, please make them short and if possible, to the topic that we have addressed. And also as our veteran had mentioned mapping on Islamic director.
One of the things that he uses as
subdivision. They claim that the Bible is the right to
use the base.
You see the Jews?
My brothers and the Jews are my cousins. See Allah has given them a little extra gray matter, not in size, but in quality. Look in the Quran, Allah, Allah gives the good news about the birth of smilies Allah. Allah tells Ibrahim Alayhi Salam that I give you a son of Solomon Halima a son who is humble, submissive, obedient.
When he gives, again, the news about the birth of his Harvard alum, the progenitor of the Jewish race, this is I will give you a sense good news. I have a son who is an Alabama, knowledgeable follow. Intelligent fellow.
Alabama doesn't choose just words like that, you know, to humans to rhyme alima alima. He doesn't say things like that. When he says Halima, there's something there in the era. That quality is there. They say something has has given him Allah gives everybody something, something unique, everybody is unique. And every nation has got certain unique qualities. Every nation like gives everybody something. He gives you something he gives me something else. So now the fellow with his brains, he programmed he brainwashed the whole Christian world, into believing in accepting that God Almighty had promised promised Palestine to them. And third title deed is the Bible. In the Bible in
the book of Genesis, this is God Almighty spoke to Abraham and he said, I will give unto thee and to thy seed after thee the land without a stranger all the land of Canaan for an everlasting position.
And I will be the God. This is the title deed of the Jews to Palestine. Now the Christian world, they know that the wrongs that they're doing to the Palestinians, they know the feeling. They also have a conscience, but there's no God, this is what God, how can I go against the will of God, if God gave you a title do certain things, I don't like it. But I have to see it. If God wants me to do that, I have to supplement it, whether I like it or not. This is how the Christian mentality is working, we have to reprogram the Christian. And we haven't started yet. This is the trouble with the Muslim.
All right, I said my to my Palestinian brother.
I said, Look, my brothers, I will not teach you how to fight the Jews, you know better than I, that we must open a second front. You see, during the World War Two, Russia was crying second friend, second friend, you know, the whole burden of the German might was on Russia. So as a second front, take the burden off as a little man take off a little burden, no pressure from us.
Our second friend is not with a gun that you carry on what you're doing. I won't teach you what to do and how. But second, for an intellectually
intellectual battle. This is his title deed. Allah says cool how to produce evidence he produced it, he has my title deed, now you must be in a position to examine it, which are not capable. You don't know if this is false or not right? But he's still got it under his arm? How can you take it away from him? So you have to now find out ways and means of reprogramming him. Unless you do that you're gonna keep on paying the price and the whole Christian world will be supporting them, because they are brainwashed.
So the answer is, my dear brothers, brother, is that we have to learn how to do the job. Of course, this is not the occasion for me to deliver a lecture on that team, because it will take another hour and a half. See, and it's not fair to me, or to the people that have gathered here. So next question.
There was one here and then
the end of the debate was almost the same thing. It was when they asked him, the Muslim asked him in London, if Jesus was the Son of God, and he could answer the second question, I think,
he prayed that he prayed to God, and He couldn't answer.
I think he might, you know, he might just
say same way. So
I think the question you have in mind is what is the benefit of this exercise?
Right, right. But now, suppose you were there.
You saw the tape? He didn't do anything to you?
Nothing to me. Yes.
No, I'm asking you as a Muslim. If you saw that debate, you heard what was said? Overall? Nah. Did anything happened to you? Was your spirit booster video morale? We did it right.
Right. Right. So that's the answer. Number one is he said, Look, man, we got it. This is to move on. From last June. I was telling you Devin, but among them also, there are good people. You can say they're all deaf, dumb and blind. Allah says you mean who Muna among them? There are many good people.
But the majority of the matter with the transgressions Here it is. The answer is given to me in the Quran. Is boosting your morale. The Muslims morality says Nah, man, we got this old man. If you can do it, why can't we?
See, or somebody gives you a passionate image man. You know, you don't know.
If you can think that match. You have saved yourself and see if there's something for you. If it didn't, then all of you are wasting time. All of you. You know, yeah. What does he do?
He does nothing for you. You're wasting time. And I'm also wasting my time. I don't think so. Otherwise, I wouldn't have come here. I know. There are good people among them. And they're our own people who are on the fence. People are under pressure under attack. If that can help us there's no man. You see, the trouble with us is we don't know his booth. We don't know what he's carrying. If you only knew, you know, this thing wouldn't happen to us we will lose our children we are losing them.
See in in Bangladesh and Pakistan. There are no Pakistanis since independence and in the previous 100 years of British rule more Bangladeshis to into Christianity than the previous 100 years of British rule. There are perverted 15 million Indonesians into Christianity. So I said none of you don't have to fight back. So if you buy that exercise
If the people that were there, ask them
I see UK is changed. The attitude is changed the younger man now he's looking for customers in my country. See immediately after the meeting.
What are they doing? They're catching somebody salah and they start debating with the following groups and groups is doing the job is creating all other little little knickknacks.
Or a cult around.
I am a Muslim. I hope I like me as a Muslim and I die as a Muslim. And you know, you make love for me.
So no, the thing is, this now is excellent with Jimmy Swaggart. You see, this guy is on a gold standard. He is a heavyweight champion of the world. The greatest evangelist of the day, I heard him. I showed this poster to Dr. Chef futon.
Germany of Sharjah, I showed him this. So I'm going to America to meet this man.
So he said this guy's big shaytan.
So I'm asking him, how do you know you people in the Middle East, you know, away from the actor or the action? What do you know about this big shaitan is no, I was in America. And I was you know, fiddling with that TV, and the guy came on. And he says, believe me, Mr. D, that you can put it off. Even if he's swearing your mother, you say you got to listen to him. You feel like breaking the screen, but you can't put it off.
So right Alhamdulillah some little children, our little children, you know, from the university or little children, they were fishing, you know, to get him involved. And they succeeded. You see, is unless we unless we write what comes out of it. I said, Look, you are the listener You are the hero among his audience. Also, there'll be people all can be zombies.
Everyone is not a zombie. You can block some of the people some of the time but you can't love all the people all the time. So if a half a dozen, the quarter doesn't, if they're Imani strenthen if some water doesn't come to the right path by listening to this debate, and all of the living can boost your morale as the job is done. This is the purpose of the exercise.
Any questions from the fishers?
Yes, well, then I'll take you nakiya, the brother behind the I'm sorry, he asked.
In the New Testament, we understand that Jesus prophesied that
the Christians have translated translating the word powerfully as you know.
They also claim that an X chapter two person wonderful that this incident that occurred on the day of Pentecost was in fact the computer that was awake.
Also, say john chapter one, verse one and verse 14.
I think it's a very tall order you're given now, after such a long time speaking on a subject, our the first portion, I will deal with that. See the confidence. They say that the Comforter is the Holy Ghost.
We say, look, this coming of the Comforter, in this verse, Jesus says, nevertheless, I tell you the truth, it is expedient for you that I go away. But if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you. But if I go, I will send him the coming of the comfort is conditional on him going away. But if the Comforter is the Holy Ghost, we see in their own scripture, their own book, that his coming the Holy Ghost, the coming of the Holy Ghost was not conditional. Because Luke chapter one tells us that Elizabeth had the Holy Ghost that's long before Jesus was born.
Then the same book chapter one, Luke tells us that john the baptist had the Holy Ghost from his mother's womb.
Jesus was not born, then Jesus Christ, they tell us that he healed with the help of the Holy Ghost. His disciples went on the preaching and healing with the help of the Holy Ghost. They preach in the hill, before Jesus parted he said, we see the Holy Ghost receive. Yeah.
So was he bluffing? Or did he give it to them that
the answer should be that he did. He wasn't bluffing them right. So in other words, the coming or going of the Holy Ghost was not conditional, but the coming of the converter is conditional.
Then this word converter, this is this word converter is English. did Jesus say that in English? says no.
Then I'm reading this in Arabic. In Arabic, the same goes in Arabic is a Latin akula. In O'Hara local in Angelica, the Allahu Allah Malik la gente Kumasi Bulacan. In
the in Arabic Bible it says more as z
I said Did Jesus speak Arabic? This or not? So what did he say? In the pseudo Bible? He says,
as he didn't speak Zulu, they say no, in the African Bible said, as if you do speak Afrikaans, they say no in 2000 different languages that are 2000 different names. What did he say?
The Quran tells us
to a scholar, Maruyama, behold, Jesus, the son of media said, you haven't read
any Rasulullah eleiko. Most certainly, I'm the Messenger of God sent to you or
Musa Kalima been a minute, confirming the revelation which came before me, when we shouldn't be assuming yati member this MOU and giving glad tidings of profit to come after me, a messenger to come after me whose name shall be mad, which is another name for Mohamed Salah. So in the absence of that written word, Muhammad Ahmed, we have to reason with them. And there is also a tape available at the moment, I have not been able to complete this book of mine, Muhammad, the natural successor to Christ that deals with this topic. But a videotape is available, I think, from Mohammed ghazali. And that deals with this and we might be able to get quite a few more points on this topic. And
let's give somebody else a chance now, brother here
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to the Christians of South Africa,
they live by this curse,
the Christians of South Africa. You see, they read in the book of Genesis chapter nine, that after the flood, Salah na the Prophet Noah and his three sons, Sam Ham and Japheth, they started growing grapes. And from the fruit of the vine, they fermented wine. And Melissa, according to the Bible, drank too much. And he was lying naked, and was spread out. So out there is three cents, Sam Ham and Japheth
ham hjM ham, same spelling as the piece of pig say, he behaved like a pig. He laughed at his father's nakedness.
His father, spit it out naked. But the other two they felt ashamed of the father's nakedness. They took a piece of cloth, and they walked backwards and they covered the Father. In the meantime, the father knew what was going on. But he was too dead drunk, according to the Bible, to do anything about it, when it comes to his soberness, now he curses and he curses, curse we can add for a servant of servant thou shall be unto thy brother.
So that is the curse. And the white people of South Africa, they believe that we are the children of ham, all the black peoples of the earth. You see, and they are the white races are the children of Simon Jaffa. So we are to be the slay the carriers award. The beer is awful. food and water do all the menial work. So the white man in South Africa, he can get reconciled to the Indian, the African, the colored, who becomes rich. You know, we also have some of us Mercedes Benz, we also have a condition homes, we also have swimming pools in our homes, he can understand it. He said, Look, these are people, they were supposed to be the hewers of wood and the drawers of water. They're
supposed to work for us in our minds and our factories and our streets and carry our ship buckets. That is the privilege of these black races and look at them. He can't get reconcile. But he can do nothing about it. He can't grab it because it's a restricted for every cent of pens that we have earned. But at the back of his mind, this is the role he's playing that he is. These are like in Africa. He is the Israelites. See, he reads the Bible. And he he projects himself into the Bible, the rules. Now we all do that, you know, when you go and see films, you know the hero, we are with him, even if he does things wrong, we want him to get away with it.
Because our sympathies they build up a sympathy for the for the character. Similarly, now while they're reading this, the sympathy is for the Jews. And they put themselves in the position of the Jews that Israel in Africa.
And black people, Indians, Africans and colors are the Palestinians. So it's our destiny to
remove them. But now, this prophecy, you see where it says firstly cannot for a servant of seven thou shalt be unto thy brethren and I have been asking learned men of Christendom
as a who saw his father's nakedness and law, this a ham and I said who is Ghana?
Is the man who is still drunk. Look when he was drunk, we understand what happened. Now he's sober and he curses and who is he cursing not ham
is cursing cannon so I cannot And believe me, no Christian was
The name even Jimmy Swaggart, or his father can answer that. Why cannot
and he's got blind, that no for somebody else's senior goes in Casa has somebody else goes, is he also blind if God is also blind? No,
then why this Cannot you see in the chapter nine of Genesis you read again now you will note that every time the name ham is mentioned in the chapter, it says enhance the father of cannon and ham the father of cannon and ham the father of cannon. So when you finish you think ham and cannon as synonymous terms which are not. Ham had four sons, Bush missile and put antenna, he was the youngest of the grandson of new. Why would he leave the culprit? Leave the three other brothers of his and curse this little infant follow? Why ask him?
Is the man still drunk? Or is God blind? No, this is a man made book the book is man made. This is not the book of God. So the guy who had the pen in his hand, very few people were able to read or write in those days. Like in Arabia, they were only about half a dozen people in the whole of Arabia in the time of maybe a creme de la sala who couldn't write a book Buddha was one of those.
So very few people. And if you had something against the law, you can introduce me into the book,
as not as loose, as no as new as Han all this you can do because you've got the pen in your hand. This is the book of man, this is how it has worked, but otherwise make them to a conference who is cannot and who is him? Why should this man know? In his righteous indignation if he cursed him and said you you'd be cursed and your children and your children's children for eternity? We can understand he should have no right to do that. But we can understand man's anger you know you speak like that. But he leaves the calculate out and he leaves the three other brothers on three other sons of his and he picks up the innocent little child You know why? Because canon became famous in
history. So this with whatever family this guy belong, he has something against the Canaanites. So this is the concoction, the word of men. So Allah says for where you live Latina Yakubu Nikita Baba him. So what would you write the book with their own hands? So Maluku, Luna has I mean, in the law, then they say this is from Allah.
Allah, that they may reap some little reward, marketable ad, so work with them for what they write, and
a boon to them for what they heard. Mr. Chairman, this is the last one and 111.
There's one question from the sisters. But I guess what we can do is,
if you don't mind this, even though you
as the enemy of the Christians, said, I need to first know army must know our enemy. I would say that, therefore you're not our enemy, because at least
we have sides divided we can start a dialogue. Correct.
I'd like to address the matter of what you said, you cited Jesus's genealogy as being very fraudulent, and as being
the son of
I think this proves a
philosophical and theological point which Christianity is trying to make, namely, that we are not perfect, we are sinful. That's the word that we constantly use in Christianity, but
that we are pastors all of us our entire our entire race, but not even human race.
Ishmael himself was born.
We're not married to each other.
Therefore, we find the courage to
stand up to righteousness and impropriety throughout the history of the Bible.
I would like to ask you two points.
In Christianity, since we know that we accept the fact that we are all sinners, we are all incapable of finding our own salvation. I'd like you to address the points of what how can I mostly find personal salvation? Because we know even the woman who was caught in adultery, she was not the only guilty
person, every man who was standing there to
tippy toe out, they didn't want to stand and throw stones at her, because they beginning with the eldest, even to the last knew they were all sinners.
Therefore, I would just like to
say that I think that in Christianity, we identify the need for a personal Savior. And do you feel that that's the case? Also?
I think, Mr. Chairman, my daughter, the, you know, has raised so many issues, you know, in a brief, very few minutes.
I don't know whether I'll be able to do justice to them all.
talking about opponents or enemies, you see, you can take this word, in the sense that the Christian is using it. He is calling as heathens. If you read the books written by your own people, you say how last other hidden, you know, hidden in capitals, and who are they all that are not Christians are heathens, capitalists, we unbelievers, I know that you wouldn't consider as unbelievers, but this is what your people say, my friend, Jimmy Swaggart, you know, I'm listening to his talk on the video. And he says, it says, I love y'all
all. But he says, If you do not accept Jesus Christ as your personal Savior, as your God, and Lord, You are not my brother, then whatever. He says, You are not my brother, he repeats. So I said, Look, these are the stories, these are stories, you can also pass by statements also as they're applied.
But coming to the main point, you see about every being born, everybody born in sin, as this is the Christian concept.
We do not believe so. And the Bible doesn't teach. So you see in the book of Luke, first chapter, Elizabeth and her husband, you read the price, Elizabeth, it says was sin less. And her husband Zechariah was sin less.
Jesus speaks about Abel is a firm righteous able to Zechariah you kill the prophets? Who the Jews? He did you say righteous? Did he say righteous is in your book. If he says righteous, that means he was what was speaking with a tiny cheek, he was bluffing the people, he is a righteous then they will be righteous. So you say everybody's a sinner. I said, Why should you? You know, label everybody with the same brush, paint everybody with the same brush? You have no right to do that. And God Almighty tells us in the Bible in the book of Ecclesiastes, he says he the Lord had made men upright. But he has sought out many inventions. These are all your concoctions, your creation, he
didn't make you. So if he created as a sin, then what right has he to expect us to get up and walk straight. If I'm born a sinner, I'm weighted down with the Lodestone of sin. And he wants to expect me to walk straight as it is unjust. He's unjust, the God who loaded me up, you load your little child and say Come on, straight up, straighten up. You gotta soldiers have a second is back. You know, your four year old, a five year old in the portfolio is almost, you know, meeting the ground. And so why don't you stand up straight and what is your unjust we'll say you're a lunatic. God Almighty, He does the same thing was also described as a lunatic. You see, this idea of sin
inherited. This is Christianity. You talk about the original sin, that sin came into the world. But the Bible doesn't say that. In the book of Ezekiel, God says, the soul that sinneth it shall die. We've heard that before is every Christian preacher, lecturer, evangelist kosis, and he puts a full stop, he puts a full stop in a verse which has no full stop.
See where he's supposed to be a comma or a semicolon, the Christian puts a full stop the soul that sinneth it shall die. Then he takes you out from there into Corinthians Galatians Galatians, and say everyone has sinned. So everyone dies unless somebody comes along and redeems him of that curse.
I said, Look, listen, read it first. It says, a son shall not be the iniquity of the Father. Neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the Son, Father Adam, he made a mistake. mother made a mistake and they paid more than the full price.
If you somebody goes and pluck some fruits in your garden, they were told not to what do you do?
You chase the child out you might give it a spanking but now you follow that child up his children and his children's grant great grandchildren for eternity. Can you imagine a god like that a Shylock worse than a Shylock Adam and Eve a sin
Some out of the garden I'm asking is that not punishment Allah? Then he curses them, that you woman, you must bear children in pain and suffering labor, for what you have done, and man, you must sweat for your brain, and we are all sweating and you are laboring as a result of what Adam and Eve did is not is that not enough? No, not for this Shylock of a God that you convey to us. He goes on now said every human pain on earth must go to hell. At the beginning of 1986, we were 4.8 billion human beings on earth. And everyone goes to hell says the Christian, for what? For the original sin? Unless you believe in Christ, and asking, did he ask you, my sister before you think that he?
Did? Adam asked you before eating the apple? No. Then I said, How can God be responsible? Is he a lunatic?
This god of ours is a lunatic. He's gonna hold me responsible for what Adam and Eve did when I was not consulted. If you were consulted by then you have a right to request.
Which kind of a god is this? So he says,
the father shall not bear the iniquity of the Son, the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, whatever good thing the good man does, he gets his reward, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him. But if the wicked will turn from all the sins that he has committed, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die. Did you read that in your Bible? Do you read that in your Bible book of Ezekiel? chapter 20.
is a gift from God.
So we don't have righteousness on our own.
When you compare my sister, look, you see the Christian world
has really gone down the drain, according to Jimmy Swaggart,
according to his books, you must read them. If you haven't read them. You must get them on follow me homosexuals. Get that on pornography, get it on insist on alcohol.
And he's telling you, America, he's telling America, this is America. He says, God must judge you. And if he doesn't, he said he might have to apologize for Sodom and Gomorrah for what he did to them.
This is Jimmy song.
This is where you have gone after 2000 years of Christianity. Look, you're sodomized. Here in New York, you have 1 million moving in the mail. If every man in New York gets married will be 1 million women who can get husbands. Yeah.
And out of your manpower you have here, one third of gays sodomized one third against your prison population. 98% of men and men will have cold feet for so many different reasons. Can you imagine your problem? There are 7.8 million more women in America than men.
If every man in america got married, they'll still be 7.8 million who can't get husbands. And you know, every man will never get married. You know that for so many reasons. So there are 20 million more women in America who can get husbands 20 million. Who can't get husbands? What's the solution?
The person is hungry is
the woman she needs man, hallelujah and
satisfied. This is something wrong with you. You had to figure 44,000,030 55 million according to Jimmy Swaggart
with all your bone again, you believe your hand in his book, how to be born again.
He says there are 75 million born again Christians in America 75 million, that's about one third is one third of your population. I said amazing. One third of your nation is born again. immaculate, the spirit is in them. They can be tempted. The old you. swagger says is now left behind. You are a new user. Now you're a new person.
75,000,001 third, and it doesn't affect the population. You know, Jesus said a little lemon lemon at the whole. You need a little yeast to ferment the know if one third of your bread is yeast. And if it doesn't ferment the love. There's something wrong with your yeast or something wrong with your flour.
So I say My dear child, I said the same thing with your flower.
As well as your yeast, you haven't caught it. You have good answers to the problems. So Jesus is telling you I have yet many things to say unto you, but you cannot bear them now how we when he The Spirit of Truth is come He will guide you towards the truth. And if I've quoted this verse, again, with a little emphasis on the pronouns, you will see that it is not the Holy Ghost of the Holy Spirit of this spirit that you are thinking about. Listen
I have yet many things to say unto you, but he cannot bear them now how we when He, the Spirit of Truth is come, He will guide you into all truth for he shall not speak from himself, but what you shall hear, that shall he speaks, and he shall declare unto you the things that are gone, he shall glorify meet a masculine pronouns in one verse, I said, it will be if it's a ghost, a spoof or a spirit. You agree, a masculine pronouns in one verse, he's talking about a man, a man, a man, a man, and not a ghost of a spirit.
And his guide you into all truth, meaning he'll supply solution to all your problems. You haven't had your surplus women ask Jimmy Swaggart and your falwell and you believe your hands, ask them? What is the answer? speechless. You haven't got the answer? They haven't written a book on polygamy. So I got about surplus women leaders are right, why doesn't the right you know, why is it more than 30? I older? He won't touch this subject. You know why? You haven't got the answer. There are others really close? The answer is there but he as if he hasn't seen it, you know, Jesus said, seeing they see not hearing they hear not, neither do they understand about your service, and you're lesbians.
he's quoting a verse in his book on homosexuals, he starts that book, two and a half page quotation. Imagine a quotation lasting two and a half page, first page, second page and another half page two and a half page quotation from the book of Romans, in which he quotes in that versus in those verses, he calls the reason for the sickness. He's saying, homosexuals, it's cause and it's cure. That's the title of the book.
So he quotes, and I'm quoting now, this is professing themselves to be wise. They're very clever people.
They became fools, and change the glory of the imperishable God, into an image like unto perishable man, the concept of God, you brought it down from that God Almighty, their Heavenly Father, omnipotent, eternal, immortal, you know, permeates the whole universe. From that concept, you brought him down to the level of a man
and further and changed the glory of the truth of God into a lie, and worship. And so the creature more than the Creator,
is so simple, basic English, he's quoting two and a half. And he says, For this cause,
I want you to read that. Romans, I forget the references is the first Romans Romans chapter four, verse 2270 2223 24 years,
you read that suffer this force, I made your women to go for women, and you're meant to go for men. For this cause this is the cause. And it's cure. He's telling you for this cause what cause you, not God, the almighty down to the level of a man, you serving a man instead of the Supreme Being, you're worshiping and serving a creature in front of the Creator.
Now, who is he talking about? You Christians? You are the one who got bogged down to this level. You said God must come down to earth He won't understand our problems otherwise, you know, he must understand how we feel. He's so he's so lovely. He came down to the new ball of a woman carried him for nine months born like any other human child circumcised and they growing like any other human being eating food and call it call of nature running to the pilot, God, you brought him down to that level for that versus his punishment, your women will become lesbians and your men become sodomites. Why don't you read the whole book? And by God, he says For this cause the book says it's called and
it's cure, that word is never used as if you never read it. So Jesus has seen they see not hearing they hear not, neither do they understand, they already made up their mind. But this exercise I say is for those who have eyes to see ears to hear, let them hear that look, you are not reading the book. When you be reading it. You misunderstanding it, you misinterpreting it. Please do us a favor. Please talk to us. We want to have a dialogue with you. We want to talk to you see and see our point of view. Maybe we are wrong. We want you to reprogram us as we will to reprogram you, but the language is me myself. I just can't help it. I am a born a militant fellow in a military family. My
father was militant, militant, militant, and I can't help it you know, my voice, my size, everything will create that impression that I'm fighting you. I'm scolding you. But you know,
this is my nature. I just can't help it. So you'll forgive me for my tone, everything. But I mean, well, please.
We have to break for other prayer. Because we have very little time left. So I have one announcement here that the videotape
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