Channel: Ahmed Deedat
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and my dear brothers and sisters, the topic,
the message of peace, Islam, the message of truth.
That is the topic that has been given to me and from the
you know the meaning of the word Islam Islam means peace coming from the word Salam Salam means peace.
If religious sense it means
a religion of total submission to the will of Allah, Islam is a religion of total submission to the will of Allah.
What is truth? Alhaji what is Huck
has an ISA Li Salaam, Jesus Christ, he was questioned by Pontius Pilate At his trial. What is truth?
Unfortunately, this gospels do not record the answer.
But Allah tala tells us in the Holy Quran, what truth is, he says, I'll have to Mira Vallarta. He says truth comes from Allah alone. So don't be of those in doubt. Whatever comes from Allah is Huck is the truth. He is the source of truth. And what he reveals what he informs his creation is Huck, the Kitab will hop. This is the Quran, Allah salam, it tells you everything that Allah says is Huck.
And if men can wants peace, there is no way to get peace. Unless you are in June. With a source of peace. You have no truth unless you are in contact with a source of truth. And we in the house of Islam, we believe that Allah tala in his final revelation, he has given this to us in the form of the Holy Quran.
this day, this very day,
at the present moment
His Holiness, the Pope,
is busy. In the Muslim country of Senegal, he's busy. We are told in the star of this morning,
the star newspaper
calling itself the people's paper,
you read about His Holiness, that he's now visiting that area of Africa where the Muslims are in a majority.
And he's urging his people
the Christian world, the Roman Catholic Church in particular, he is the head of 150 million Roman Catholics. His Holiness, the Pope, and His Holiness, the Pope has just made a proclamation you get this morning spa and you read there he is making his wish known to the world that he wants to have a dialogue with the Muslims.
dialogue. You know, it's a dialogue, a friendly chat and exchange of views, communication between one group of people and another in this particular instance with the Muslims
when he went to Nigeria, this is a
A visit to Africa eight, time is gone now to Africa. When he was in Nigeria, he made a proclamation that he wanted to have a dialogue with the Muslims. When he went to Kenya, he said we must have a dialogue with the Muslims. When he went to Turkey, he said we must have a dialogue with the Muslims. Look, this is what Allah tala is telling us in the Holy Quran. In the I read to you from Sula, Ali imraan
surah, Allah imraan
we find him
in the Holy Quran. If you have a translation like this particular one I have in my hand,
by Abdullah Yusuf Ali, this goes on at the back of it. There is a very comprehensive index, anything you want to know everything on your fingertips. What do you want to know? You want to know about marriage in Islam, and the EM just like in a dictionary, you'll find marriage, everything about marriage, with whom you can and with whom you can't? How many? How many?
Open the book and the marriage you will, Allah will tell you how many and how.
What you want to know you will know about heaven and the edge you will know about hell and the edge. You want to know about Jesus and the J you will know about Moses and that M. What do you want to know about creation and the see whatever you want everything on your fingertips in this Encyclopedia of Islam, the Holy Quran by Abdullah Yusuf Ali and this Quran I'm happy to know to tell you that is made available for you at the exits, they are available at a price
a veritable encyclopedia for of 2000 pages. You owe it to yourself that you avail yourself of the benefits that you can derive from a translation such as this.
In surah, Allah Moran if you want to know Imran is in the Quran,
you don't start paging through paging through 2000 pages to find the Imran is what you do go to the index and look for the word Imran And the AI. And it'll tell you chapter three entries easy to find, because every page is numbered.
Once you found chapter three, I am now telling you I am number 6464 is easy to find. Because every verses number, once you have found it, read it at home, make a practice that whenever any person delivers for and he gives you a Quranic reference, make a point of going home and checking it out. Not that you doubt the speaker, but for your own benefit. Once you go and check it up, you see it with your own eyes, you read it in your mind and you attempt to read it audibly that you can hear that part of that message will become your own property and you in turn will be able to share it with other people. You owe yourself this privilege this honor.
Go and refer to any reference in the Holy Quran.
Verse 64, of Allah.
Allah says, Paul, tell them
Yeah, hello Gita. So people have the book. Oh, people have the book, who are the people the book?
are limited men will tell us unanimously that these are the Jews and the Christians.
That means Jews and Christians elaborate. Allah is telling us to call them Yahoo al Qaeda Palo
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Illa Kalamata in Sabah in Baden Arabella, that we come to common terms as between us and you. Let us get on to a common platform let us get together for the sake of mankind for the sake of peace for the sake of God. Let us get together on a common platform and the basis of getting together.
Allah gives us the conditions.
I when somebody will tell me they are unreasonable. I want to find people to tell me that these are unreasonable, unreasonable conditions. Number one, Allah says Allah Buddha Allah Allah, that we worship member Allah, wa salam sharika v Shea, and that we associate no partners with him. Well, I don't abandon Alibaba mindu nila, and that we do not take from among ourselves lords and patrons other than Allah find our low populo shadowgun non Muslim, but if they turn back, tell them that we are Muslims, meaning that we have submitted our wills to the will
If Allah whatever Allah wants us to do, we are prepared to do. But let us get together in the fellowship of faith in the worship of the one true God. One is only one God and let us worship him when we muslims for Allah and Muhammad Sallallahu Sallam is not our Allah inform the people, let them know. But there are millions of people who don't know these things.
The thing that we Muslims are the Antichrist, that that jobs the enemies of Jesus, they do not know that in this Holy Quran or in China.
The virtues of Maria Melissa Alam the mother of Jesus, and this mighty messenger God, Jesus, his birth is described in two places in the Holy Quran. They don't know that we Muslims, we believe that Jesus was one of the mightiest messengers of God, that we believe in his miraculous birth, that we believe that he was a mercy. He's the Messiah translated Christ. And we believe in his many miracles, including those of giving life to the dead by God's permission, and of healing those born blind and the lepers by God's permission. In my country, when I tell these two that my fellow countrymen, the Christians, they are thinking that I'm trying to curry favor with them, trying to be
nice to them, that if I scratch their back, they might scratch my back. If I can say a few good words about the Jesus they in turn might say a few words about are going to be a creme de la Sol, Mohamed Salah, Salah. You know, that's far from the truth, the Holy Quran, in is as in shine. What I'm telling you about, there is a chapter in the Quran called surah. Maryam in honor of the name of the mother of Jesus Christ, Surah Maryam.
It happens that in the Christian Bible, there is no such book, this Christian Bible. I have in my hand, the Old and the New Testament put together, this particular one of the Roman Catholics, I'm sorry, this one of the Protestant world has 66 books inside 66. The Roman Catholic version has 73 books inside 73 booklets put together crazy encyclopedia called the Bible, in the 73 books of the Roman Catholics and 66 of the Protestants. There is not a single book entitled marry, you open the Quran, and you find chapter Mary Surah Maryam.
Now you have to inform these two people, His Holiness, the Pope, he wants to have a dialogue.
wherever he goes, he wants to have a dialogue with the Muslims. The late man when I met him in 1984, he told me
that the pope wanted to have a dialogue with him and asked him what happened? Well, look, that dialogue was another kind is that another kind of dialogue, not the dialogue that I'm having with you now, with a Muslim or non Muslim you're seated here. I'm having a chat with you. I'm explaining to you the position. But with tunku of the man, the His Holiness, the pope had a dialogue of another kind with other Lana see for the rabita, the world assembly of the world Islamic conference. He also had another dialogue, but it's of another kind with the world didn't know, I don't know whether you knew that our own tunku Abdul Rahman, he had a dialogue with his holiness.
Does anybody know? Can anybody put up his hand and say, Look, he knew about this dialogue that tunku Abdul Rahman had with the Pope, anybody knows please put up your hand.
I can't see any.
Our team who had a dialogue, but that was of another kind. But suppose His Holiness was here today with us.
I would have in all humility, approached him to holiness. The Quran tells us we'll have a dialogue with you.
Allah, Allah tells us to follow them follow Allah.
And in the book of Isaiah, also the holy bible tells you Come, let us reason together Come, let us reason together.
So, we are going to have a little dialogue though I have tried to have a dialogue with him, I had written to him, but unfortunately, it will come about but hypothetically this evening, let us say that his holiness is here with us today. And we want to have a dialogue with him. And we start, I start by asking his holiness, your holiness. What does the Bible your Bible, Your Holy Bible says about Muhammad?
What do you expect to hear from him? Or any learned man of Christianity, the priests passons, credit cards, ministers, bishops, archbishops, without hesitation they will tell us nothing.
If you ask any Christian, what does the Bible your Bible say about Muhammad? They will tell you nothing.
You may ask, why nothing?
That's not the Holy Bible speak about the rise of Israel, the rise of communism, and even the beast. In the book of Revelation, the last book of the Bible is speaks about a beast. And it even speaks about Gaga and Magog.
all these things are mentioned in the in the Bible, they will say, Yes, they are.
then surely it must have something to say about this mighty messenger of God Mohamed Salah Salaam who made it possible for 1 billion Muslims today
1,000,001,000 million Muslims in the world to believe in Jesus. Because no Muslim is a Muslim if he does not believe in Jesus, this man Muhammad Sallallahu Sallam who made that possible? Surely there must be something about him in the Bible.
The man will tell you, his son, my son, if there was anything, I would have known it, I would have seen it.
I would have recognized but this word Muhammad is not to be found anywhere in the Bible.
You may if you have my book, it is being given out what the Bible says or Muhammad. There is a reference there, that in the Hebrew Bible in the original Hebrew language, in the Song of Solomon, Chapter 16, verse five, it says
hico mamita came with Muhammad in the ad with a banner Jerusalem.
The word there is Muhammad M, which is Muhammad with respect and honor. In the Hebrew language. There are two types of plurals plural of respect and plural of numbers. This is a plural of respect as we read the Quran as Allah says, In
a nutshell, na, na na na hula Hof is that it is for us to send them the revelation and it is for us to protect it. Who is this as?
Father Son and Holy Ghost? No, we don't believe in that. Who Alhaji Braden Muhammad, Allah know who is this? Who is this as we know that in the Arabic language, this is a plural of respect. Allah is talking about himself like the Royal we the Royal plural.
So Mohammed, Mohammed is mentioned by name but the Christian world in the translations they have translated the word Muhammad him into the word altogether lovely. So when you read the English Bible, it says all together lovely, you can imagine that the talking about Mohammed Salah Salah, like for example, if it was the praised one Muhammad means the praised one. If it was the praised one you won't think you can imagine he's talking about Muhammad Sallallahu Salah. So, we said now, let us reason let us reason. There are chapters and verses in the Holy Bible, where lnav occurring, sallAllahu Sallam is referred to
and we may
draw the attention of the Christian world,
to the book of Deuteronomy,
in the Old Testament, in the book of Deuteronomy, chapter 18, verses 18 and 19.
I took the trouble before coming to this country before leaving South Africa to learn these verses in your language, in your sweet language.
in case in case I happen to to mutilate your language, to murder your language, I know you good people, you will be kind enough to overlook my shortcomings. I assure you, that whatever I say the way I pronounce it is not intentionally wanting to mutilate your language.
In the book of Deuteronomy chapter 18, verse 18, in the Malay Bible, it says oulanka
18 verse 18, and 19
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I will raise them up a profit. See all wrong. Maybe I can. coupon can Bagi mereka daddy Antara sadara America from among the burgerim seperti engkau any like unto the like you like who like has a masala Salah
seperti engkau ini aku akan Minato Furman coup de la nia and I will put my words in his mouth, who's talking? God Almighty is talking to his new Salah Salam telling him that Allah tala will raise that for them. For the Jews, a prophet among the brethren from the bunnies married the children of Israel, because the Israelites in the ishmaelites the Arabs are brothers coming from father Abraham. Abraham, Elisa Lam had poor wife Sarah and Hydra, the children of Syrah or the Jews and the children of Hydra, the Arabs and SS the aberdares so that America from among the brethren.
Dan Yeah Can mengatakan kepada mereka segalla, young
perintah Kappa Danya and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. orang yang tidak mindon garchen segalla Furman ku Oran yang tidak mendengar can Harken listen to an
whosoever will not hearken, listen to
men then God can heart can listen to hear hear her can say gala, Forman coo all that I tell him, young can do chap can lobby to demean amaku which he shall speak in my name in Arabic is in Malaysian, they mean amaku in my name, the Padania akan bertanggungjawab. And, to me sounds most musical, there is a pattern you can put into Java and C, I will make him if you don't listen to this man, this messenger of God, when he's going to come speaking my name, I will fix you.
In the Roman Catholic version of the Bible, it says I will take revenge revenge, Allah is prepared to take revenge on anybody was not will not listen to that Prophet can who comes along and speaking in a last name is me.
Now the most important part
of this prophecy,
we will deal with every phrase in Sharla every phrase will expound that this fits of an idea Kareem sallallahu Sallam like a glove.
If the glove is specially made for you, or for him, it fits him like a glove.
The most important phrase is seperti in cow any seperti engkau ini I hope you understand my MLA, you understand the MLA cfrp engkau any like and to the like you like Moses. So, we want to know, how is
Jesus as a candidate for Christianity and Muhammad Sallallahu sallam, how do they fare in being like Moses? So we are going to do this little bit of dialogue as if his Holiness the Pope was with us here tonight.
You see, Jesus Christ is not a candidate for this prophecy. Because in the first place, Moses and Muhammad Sallallahu Sallam May Allah bless them both, bless them all.
They had a father and a mother,
Moses and Muhammad they both had fathers and mothers. But Jesus only had a mother.
He had no human father. Is that true?
And any Christian will admit that that is true.
Moses and Mohammed both had fathers and mothers, Jesus had only a mother.
So we can say Ole, ole Karana eetu, maybe Isa detoxifier Tina be Moosa taffy Nabina, Muhammad, Allah sarfati. Nabi Musa. De for Jesus is not like Moses, but Muhammad. similasan is like Moses, number two,
Moses and Mohammed, both born in the normal course of things, and men and the woman coming together, like any one of us. But Jesus Christ was created by a special miracle.
The Holy Bible records that before they came together, Mary and Joseph the carpenter, she was found with child by the Holy Ghost.
And in the Gospel of St. Loup, when this good news was given to Maria Melissa, ROM, about the Buddha, Holy Son, she says, How can this thing be when I know not a man meaning sexually, I have no experience of a male
How can I have a son? So, the angel is made to say that the Holy Ghost will come upon me and the power of the Messiah will overshadow the.
In the Holy Quran, you're told, when the same same situation arises that given the angel of God comes from me, Melissa lamb and gives her the good news about the birth of a Holy Son. She says,
Well, I mean, certainly Bashar. She said, Oh my Lord, how can I have a son? when no man has touched me? Meaning physically sexually? What does the angel say to that? says, de la jolla Kuma Sha see, even so Allah creates what he will wayzata amarin fine nama yaku.
So whenever he decrees a matter, Allah decrees anything, he just as can be. And finally, it happens. This is the Muslim concept of the birth of Jesus, that without any major intervention, has he Salah Islam was born.
Moses and Mohammed, both born in the normal course of things, Jesus, born by a special miracle, as the Christian, is it true and without hesitation, the Christian any Christian with the name will admit that it is true. So you can say early Karana II to maybe maybe Isa did x frt, Nabi Musa, toffee Nabi Muhammad
Musa Moosa, the four, Jesus is not like Moses, but Muhammad Sallallahu Sallam is like Moses, number three, Moses and Mohammed, both married and the bigger children
a normal human life both they both married and beget children. But Jesus remained a bachelor all his life, is it true? As the Pope, he and he will tell you, yes. Or any Christian you say? Yes. Therefore, you say,
I would like Karina to.
Maybe Isa didn't suffer the Navy Moosa the dafina v. Muhammad Adela suffer the Navy Moosa made the Peace and blessings of Allah be upon them all. Therefore, he said, Jesus is not like Moses, but Muhammad Sallallahu Sallam is like Moses, number four,
Moses and Mohammed. They both had a rough time.
The people, they didn't accept them wholeheartedly without the struggle
to have the most Elisa Lam his people gave them endless trouble in the desert for 40 years. Our Nivea Kareem sallallahu wasallam. You know, for 13 years he suffered in Makkah, he had to make the hegira to Medina, and even in Medina didn't leave him alone. You remember better and had and 100 rupees movies. But before musala Islam died, or has an ISA, maybe somebody died, both the people.
Both the people, they accepted their profits as the messengers of God, they gave them trouble. But before they died,
they were accepted as profits by their people in their lifetime.
But Jesus Christ, the Bible tells us that he came unto his own, but his own received Him not. He came on his own when the Jews he came for them, but they all rejected him. And even after 2000 years of Christianity 2000 years, his people as a whole have rejected Jesus. They call him an imposter. And as a false prophet, they say they killed him on the cross. That as we say, Allah says Mama, Cthulhu masala boo. They didn't kill him, nor did they crucify him. But according to our Christian Brethren, we can ask them. Is that true that Moses and Muhammad both were accepted by the people in that lifetime, whereas Jesus was rejected in his lifetime, even now for 2000 years? Is it true?
And he has to admit, it is true. We say
ole Karana II do. I think you'll remember by the time I'm finished, I'm sure you've heard this. I will Karana to Navy Isa Zephyr in Abu Musa taffy, Nabi Mohan,
Adela suffer Tina de Moosa de for Jesus is not like Moses, but Muhammad Sallallahu Sallam is like Moses. Number five.
See Moses and Mohamed Salah. They were both prophets as well as King.
A prophet is a person who receives inspiration
revelation from Allah to guide their fellow brethren. That's a prophet of God, the mouthpiece of God. They speak the Word of God but they're not gods.
Among them, we believe
that Musa al Salaam Salaam Salaam Alaikum Salaam Ibrahim alayhis salam is Haggadah, Salam he Sally Solomon on and on and on we accept the mode.
You see, there are endless number of points you will get from my book.
These books have been given to you.
I want you to learn these verses memorize them in English.
Your English will improve in the Malay language is your language, but if you have memorized will be able to speak to the people, you will be able to share with them and you'll find an opportunity endless opportunities,
endless opportunities of sharing our Deen with the People of the Book, the Gita, Allah says Yahoo lol kita Allah can call them, talk to them, invite them home for a cup of tea
and show them our Islamic brotherhood.
Our fellow feeling
And in that way, we show the bone that Islam has created for us that we in the house of Islam, though we are so many different nations, Allah, Allah has made it possible for us to get together.
Only last night.
In my room in the hotel, we all young people were seated there I was the oldest of them. And I noticed something.
And I was telling them I said, You know what? We are not thinking at all. You know, we are so united we are such brotherly people that we do not know that there are four different nations sitting in my room.
Four different nations in my room, and we were not conscious of it. I first said three
and somebody corrected me It says four. What were those four nations.
They were a quarter dozen Malays, one nation, a quarter dozen Hindi Muslims from India, another nation.
Then we had an Arab, another nation. And we had a Chinese Muslim. But the second that we have been working so hard to organize this meeting, another nation for nations.
Allah tala makes us to come together five times a day, every day of the year. He brings us together in the worship of the one true God. We are made to stand shoulder to shoulder no gaps left between one individual and another. Because of an MBA Kareem sallallahu sallam, he said that when you stand up for prayer, you must not leave gaps between you and your brother, for the devil to get in.
What they were
anybody seen the devil? You know, usually we see in religious pictures. The devil is portrayed with horn sharp ears and tail with a barbed hook with a ruddy complexion. Anybody seen one like that? No. That devil that
was speaking about
was not the one we see in the art galleries.
But he was talking about ourselves, that level of racism.
I'm mulay This man is a Chinese. I am rich, he is poor.
That kind of a devil is not allowed to come in between our brothers we stand shoulder to shoulder back, no gaps left between one devotee and another.
Then once or twice a year, we are made to go to the EGA a bigger gathering on Fridays we gather for Juma in the big big mustards. And, again, during the day again, I don't know whether we have the practice here in Malaysia. But in my country, we are trying to revive it. Our nebia Kareem sallallahu Sallam had said that when the rains come to EADS, when after Ramadan, and the other isn't the ease of sacrifice, we are ought to go out in the open fields like this one here, and every other open field that you can think of go for your Salah, you will eat the
Animals our nebia Kareem Salalah. Sam he also said that when you go for the E then take the women and children with you
and he says something more than
That he said even menstruating women,
ask your alliums is it even menstruating women, you know in the house of Islam menstruating women do not have a salad, then what you do with them? Why? Why give them this extra trouble of gathering them in open spaces like this. There is a psychology. the psychology behind it is this,
that if even the menstruating woman she comes along, she brings her little ones also when can you imagine the husband, the wife, the little one, the big one, and all the children including ourselves, the Whoa, all are there. And it creates an impression in
any situation like in my country. When we do that. We know in the small towns that people come to see what so many Muslims as a whole in the country, we are less than 2%
less than 2% for every 100 people there are only about two muslims for every 100 there are only two Muslims.
But the impressions are so many Muslims, it moves the morale of the Muslims. And it terrifies the enemies of Islam. We didn't know that there were so many Muslims in the cave. There are so many Muslims in Durban, there are so many Muslims in Johannesburg. So it's a psychological factor. Maybe Kareem knew this, this secret of the psychology that go and create this bone walk passing will be hardly like Jamia Allah,
Allah tells us and get together whole fast all of you together
will be huddling Jamiel wallet. And don't be divided among yourselves get together. Then once in a lifetime if one can afford we are told to go for Hajj, if you can afford if you can fulfill certain requirements, one is financial. And the other is other social obligations. You may have the money and you have the health to take that long journey.
But you have a grown up daughter in the house, ready for marriage. And she's unmarried. What does Islam say?
says get her married first. Allah can wait. get her married first. You have the money but you in somebody you are in debt is a pay your debt first. Allah can wait. Allah is not needed. He doesn't need your hedge. He does not need your IRA. Get the girls married first. Because
he left alone at home. The mother is there but it's not the same as the father being there. So once in a lifetime, you gather together and you discover Muslims from all over the world all shades of color.
And you realize that I didn't know you would say I will say me the Chinese Muslims, Muslims from China, Chinese Muslims. Yes, there are more than 50 million Chinese Muslims. We didn't know that. Then you find that they Tamil Muslims people from Tamil Nadu from the south of India in my country, almost 100% of the Tamils from South India all Hindus, they are now rapidly getting christianized but they are all Hindus. So to us. Every Tamil is a Hindu. Every Tamil is a Hindu. But now when we go for height, we find that there are Tamil Muslims speaking the Tamil language and lecturing the Tamil language unknown to us, men from Ethiopia, men from Nigeria, men from Ghana, Muslims, Muslim
from Turkey with blond hair and blue eyes, Muslims, Muslims from Malaysia, from Indonesia, from Allah, Allah, Allah has given us a system
of how we can be united in a brotherhood of faith. We are to make use of this and spread this vulnerable. It is the bounden duty of every Muslim man, woman and child
that we read the Quran, we understand it and we share it with everybody around this is the bounden duty Allah. Allah will question us on the day of gentlemen, it is the trust which he has given us. And if we do not fulfill that trust,
he warns us in the Holy Quran, he says that Allah just at the moment I reckon that if you do not carry out your duties and obligations,
which Allah has imposed upon you for being the hydromet in the best of people, we are a lattice is the best of people.
What makes us the best of people?
Why? Because we are Malays, no nothing to do with you being Malay or we have nothing to do with that. Or we are all we are clowns by chance. Pakistanis Bangladeshis, nothing to do with
what makes us the best of people. Allah says Tom Runa bill Murphy
And financial mentor, because you enjoy and what is right and you forbid What is wrong? What do you mean when I Billa and you believe in Allah, these are your qualifications, you are the best of people. When Allah gives you this high and noble status,
this high and noble status of being the best of people, it imposes certain responsibilities. There is no honor no status without responsibility. You mean to say Allah makes us the best of people without responsibility? No responsibilities that you share this Deen with other people and if you do not,
he says, yes, that The Omen if he will substitute in your place, and other people from lacuna. onsala then they won't be like you. They won't be like you. In other words, this is an eternal love Allah, Allah, that if you don't do your job all Muslims, willy nilly you will find things working, the sand will be taken away from under your feet you will definitely collapse. Allah tala. In the first instance he chose the Jews.
He chose the Jews for his special favors. We are told in the Holy Quran, Allah says Yamani is a less guru Mata Latina Aleikum, wa ne Malala mean, so children of Israel, remember the special favors which I didn't to you that I chose you about all the peoples of the earth for my special favors for guiding mankind.
This was the favor, Allah chose them that they should become the posh bearers of his badania to the rest of mankind. But they made the religion a racial religion. You have to be born a Jew to be a Jew.
If you want to become a Jew, who they don't want to.
They don't want you they don't want us in their fold. They want to keep you out, is a racial religion.
Allah says yes, that do own his substitute in your place and other people. And this is an eternal law. Again and again we find Allah tala took away that honor that privilege from the hands of the Jews, and bestowed it upon the Arabs. Allah chose the Arabs. Now we did in the Quran that this was addressed to the Arabs and through them to us and through us to the rest of mankind. This is the responsibility of every Muslim, whether Malay Indonesian, Indian, Muslim, or Pakistani, whether Arab origin, whoever you are, wherever you are, if you say you are a Muslim, we are bound by this order. You don't do the job, just that the government I reckon he will substitute in your place and other
And they won't be like you.
Allah, but Allah gives us witches. As a test as a try.
See, we are made to ask in our, in our prayers, so Rabbana our Lord Athena give us senate and the good thing of this was life, working out here at the house and the good things of the hereafter locking us up and save us from the chastisement of the fire dude. We are made to ask for the good things of this world life is not a same to have good homes, air conditioned homes, he will have swimming pool in your homes if you can afford it. To have Mercedes Benz is not a
good food, good clothing, not
Allah wants you to ask for all his blessings. But these blessings can become a curse.
Allah can give this to you as a test in a trial.
And he's warning us Allah Manasa masuku de la Hema Baba Kula Shea, that when they had disregarded the warnings we had given them the warnings as containing the Holy Quran. The whole Quran is contained with Examples Examples after examples, don't do what the others did. The cancer that overtook them is gonna overtake you beyond God.
So, Allah if you don't listen to him, you don't carry out his messages. You don't share the fate with others. This is right. Bella mana su masuku de fatahna de ma Baba Kula Shay, we open up for them our doors of plenty, the horse of horns of plenty.
is our furry flew to Boston, while in the midst of that in German they are off we call them to account all of a sudden very, very very, very
soon and put them into utter despair, vaquita da Camila, Xena solemn and the wrongdoers are cut off to the last remnant.
Well, hamdulillahi Rabbil alameen Allah says in that case, we live to
Hence was heaven. Jabara tala, we thank you for eliminating these parasites. They you chose them, you put them into such wonderful position status, gave them riches, gave you them intelligence, you gave them natural resources, but they abused them, they didn't use them the radiotracer views. So, yes,
he will substitute in your place another people from Malaysia, Allah, then Allah says they won't be like you. It does happen again and again in history, and it can happen again. We have to be on guard continuously be vigilant
with regard to our responsibilities. So this is the message which I bring to you, from my country, South Africa, from the house of Islam, and I bring to you peace and salutations
from that deepest south of Africa.
If you look at the map of the continent of Africa, at the bottom most point you'll find a country called Republic of South Africa. in that country, they live about half a million Muslims 50% of them are Malays.
Believe me, they are called Malays in my country.
Where do they come from?
I don't know whether you know you didn't send them. They were not missionaries. They were not businessmen with ships of their own to go along and do business in South Africa. How did they get there?
We are told by history that some 300 years ago, when the Dutch conquered Indonesia, those of our brethren who were fighting for the freedom, they were captured as prisoners of war and shipped to the Cape of Good Hope and sold to the white men as slaves.
When the British conquered Malaysia, those of our brethren who are fighting for the freedom, they were also protected as prisoners of war and shipped to the Cape of Good Hope and sold to the white men as slaves. for 300 years they were being hammered
by the Christians to convert them to Christianity 300 years.
But after 300 years of hammering, they retain Islam. And they are a wonderful people. Voila. They are a wonderful people just like yourself.
Simple, humble, sweet people like yourselves.
But they are not that sweet. You can.
You can swallow them, you can swallow them. They have 300 years of hammering has made them quite a tough people.
You can't swallow them easy. 300 years the Christians failed to convert them. They managed to change the language. The last the language.
There was the language.
They lost the surnames.
You find them the Malays they look like you what they look like you no exaggeration, when you are there in the myths, you think you are in Kuala Lumpur, or you are in Jakarta. You will not think that you are in South Africa. We are in the limits. They look like you
from the law. They behave like you. They butcher the Quran just like you, these Malays
they lost their language and they lost their surnames. They carry Christian surnames. How did that happen?
You see, they were forced to pray in hiding in secret. The Christians don't allow them that freedom of religion
which they have for themselves, not for the Malays.
So what did they do? in hiding? They get together in people's homes.
And in that hiding, they butcher the Quran. They all be together beautiful singsong way like you do. You're saying? Well, Quran is lucky altogether. Then a small Krishna. Who Allahu Allah Allah Allahu Allah Malik aku Salam and Amina Mohammed on the way you do same same same 300 years because they did that they retained Islam.
Another community, which will be were Indian Muslims, we have been lost long ago. In a similar period of time, the afro Americans from Africa they were taken they were Muslims most of them but in 300 years their lot lost Islam altogether.
But these Malays of the cape called them cape Malays, they're these Malays they have written Islam, and you can look forward to meeting them. in Makkah and Medina when you go for Hajj when you go for Mara and strengthen this bond,
bring them to your country, learn things from them, and you share your love and feeling with them and strengthen this bond that existed in the Muslims especially beginning with your own people from South Africa with these words. I'm very, very grateful for this opportunity.
Coming in speaking to you this evening. And at the end of it, I don't know what the chairman is announced in the Malay language is question time. And you are now in a position to ask questions. You can ask questions in writing, I'm told you have to write the questions and send them in as quick as possible. And as quick as possible, we can get started in answering them. And at the end of question, time is the finish of the meeting. So I asked you Well, I wish you well. And I say, walk down the hill a lot. I mean,
thank you. She did that.
It's now time for questions.
I have got a few questions.
I think it's only fair
that this question is directly to direct you to do that.
And hopefully, he would answer
and I would be able to translate it possible into the Malay language.
Now, we have two questions already, but somehow rather,
I think the committee feels
that the questions are quite long winded.
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Mr. de de there is one question here. Now, could you elaborate about your statement in connection with synchronous dialogue with the pope?
Can you come back to the microphone and answer this question? elaborate that and perhaps we would like to know more of this? If you have. That is my first question. You can use that microphone.
You see when I came to this beautiful country of yours in 1984.
I met the tunku.
And he asked me, Ahmed, that's my name. This is this dialogue of yours with the Pope. What happened?
As is no new dialogue took place. You under an ally. As his know, His Holiness didn't mean that dialogue in the sense with the Quran speaks the Quran Allah, Allah wants us to have a dialogue with him.
With the Christians. tala come talk about Allah's unity. He is the one and only Allah that there is. This is what allows us to talk that we don't associate partners within talk about that.
So when His Holiness was making proclamations like he's making today, you must see the staff this morning staff, he wants to have a dialogue with the Muslims.
So after many years of waiting, I wrote to his holiness,
that I am prepared to come over to the Vatican and have a dialogue with His Holiness, because the Bible says have a dialogue and the Quran says we must have a dialogue. So there was no reply. So I sent him another letter. There was no reply. So I sent him a telegram.
His Holiness, the Pope, I sent him a telegram. So I get a response,
telling me that he's prepared to receive me in private in the Secretariat.
So I wrote back, asking him, how big is your Secretariat,
because this is not a private matter. A dialogue with the Muslims is not a private matter, between Ahmed deedat, and the Pope, that I go and enjoy a cup of tea with him, and have a nice, good time. And he gives me a good Bible as a present. And I come and tell the people as you know, I went to the Pope, and he gave me tea and he kissed my hands. This is boosting, wanting to boost my ego. What a great guy I am. So no, this is not a private matter. The whole Muslim world wants to know, the Christian world wants to know what are you people talking? So how big is your Secretariat, because three plane loads of Muslims are coming from South Africa alone, youth from the Johannesburg and
Cape Town, and from the Middle East, and from the UK. How big is your Secretariat?
No answer. Again, no answer.
Actually, he didn't mean that dialogue. He is telling his people go and preach to the Muslims go and convert them. But he doesn't use the word convert, because you're going to react. So the best way is talk about the dialogue is this morning's paper dialogue.
I go to Birmingham delivering a lecture. And in that lecture, I meet Dr. Abdullah Massey, of the rabita.
He's asking what happened about your dialogue with the Pope. So I told him as you know, this was just a hoax. He didn't really mean a dialogue, in what sense? We understand what Allah wants us to talk about. No, not about that.
So he says, you know, he did it to me to
Dr. Massey, this is he did it to me. So what did he do? He said, he called me for a dialogue. And I went, you know, simple people. He said, and I went and he goes, he said, they made me to wait at the Vatican in a waiting room. After 10 minutes into another higher grade, waiting room after another 10 minutes, still higher grade waiting room.
And incomes. His Holiness.
embraces him, kisses his hand. Fantastic, fantastic, gentlemen.
So are you from Egypt?
Dr. necessity? No, I'm from Saudi Arabia, meaning that the guy didn't know maybe he was expecting somebody from Egypt.
So what's the dialogue? He says, you know, you people don't allow us to build more churches in your country.
And it happens. Saudi Arabia is the only Muslim country in the world where there is not a church. Only Muslim country in the whole world is the you people don't allow us to build churches in your country.
So Dr. Massey, a talented gentlemen, well, witted man, he is telling his holiness, telling his holiness that you allow us to build mosque in the Vatican.
He says no, I don't mean Makkah and Medina, but in the rest of the country. So Dr. Nassif said, Look, to us, the whole of Saudi Arabia is our Vatican. If your Vatican is 10 square miles, or 100 square miles whole of Saudi Arabia is our Vatican is the Holy Land for us. Then when I come to your country here, tomorrow, ramen
tunku Abdul Rahman, he is asking me the same question. And I told him, this is Ahmed. The guy did it to me too. So what did he do? He said, he called me for a dialogue and I went when I was around Egypt, he says, I went to the Vatican, to Italy, to the Vatican and they received very well. Same treatment, first grade of waiting room, second grade, higher up third grade and incomes of Pope
champion charming charming kissing your hand anything he will do. And the dialogue starts with dialogue. The dialogue is, is is you know, tunku sir, in Sabah, to our Catholic priests have been caught drug trafficking, dada, and they will die come to intercede with the Saba government on my behalf.
That is the dialogue. No, Allah Baraka is telling us to have a dialogue with them on the basis that there is what one Allah worship him. Don't associate partners with him, don't take others as lords and patrons other than Allah. So the dialogue with the tunku was of another kind, the dialogue with the learners he was of another kind, not the type of dialogue that we are talking about Come let us reason together on the worship of the one true God. Thank you. Sure.
No, really, we have this question a beautiful one. You have answered that very nicely. If the non Muslim asked what is Islam?
What are we supposed to how do we answer that?
Question. What if a non Muslim asked what is Islam? They don't know about Islam, they want to ask you what is Islam? Can you elaborate on that? Yeah, simple.
Islam is a religion of God.
There is no such thing as Judaism, and there is no such thing as Christianity. Look, don't be shocked. I agree with you. We want to know from Hazzard musala salam,
if we can meet him, we asked him, oh, Moses has Moosa What is your religion.
And I assure you can never say Judaism, because that is the term the word he never heard in his life. This term Judaism was invented long after masala Salah, the people around Judea around Palestine, they when they saw the children of Judah in Judea, the religion that they practice the people from the outside they said, this is the Judaism is the religion of the children of Judah in Judea. That's how the name Judaism came about. But musala salam, if you can ask him, he will tell you that my religion is a religion of total submission to God's will. That's his definition. And one word for that in the Arabic language is Islam. Islam means a religion of total submission to God's
word, the religion of healthy Salah Salah if we can have the privilege of meeting him at the Second Coming, asked him, oh, you solid Salam. What is your religion? I do not expect him to say Christianity, because he never heard the word Christ. He never heard the word Christian. He never heard the word Christianity. Look, this is all biblical. The first time the word Christian was ever used in the Bible is in the book of Acts at Antioch, the enemies of the followers of Jesus disparagingly they pointed to them saying that these are Christians, meaning the worshipers of Christ, Jesus is not expected to say that I'm a Christian, because if he said, I'm a Christian, we
can ask him what church you belong to. Are you a Jehovah's Witness, or the Seventh Day Adventist or a Mennonite or a Mormon? What? Roman Catholic? What are you, we expect him to say that my religion is a religion of total submission to God's will. And one word for that in the Arabic language is Islam. Islam means a religion of total submission to the will of God. Thank you very much should be done. And I think time is running.
And we have adjusted
the question that you have given us, it will be noted, I will take along to South Africa. And we shall individually individually write you back, provided that you in your lead your questioning, you go back and get them back and write your name and addresses on that on that questions. Now, I want to thank you very, very much for your very interesting talks on Islam. And we have been very, very happy indeed. At least you could make it this evening. And before we close, I would like to thank Mr. Chairman, I saw dozens of questions in the box there. And you ended with two I don't know the people are just satisfied. If they are satisfied, I'm quite happy. I'm an old man of 74. I can go to
sleep now. I have another program tomorrow morning. If you people are tired, I am prepared to go. But I saw dozens. Dozens I can understand why in two questions. You know, the meeting is closed. I can understand. I don't know.
I'm very sorry. Indeed, Mr. Duda. But I think 1015 and 10. Now is already 10 to 15. Tomorrow is a working day in this country.
as I said, as I said to you, you can ask any questions that you ask and let them answer to you directly. You have got time to talk to them.
And the meeting is adjourned.