Channel: Ahmed Deedat
Topics: Comparative Religion
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Mr. Chairman, Mr. Chairman, has just vanished.
My dear brothers and sisters,
I have just read it to you a verse from Surah Al Baqarah. That is chapter two, verse number 79.
In which Allah, Allah tells us about the people of the book,
writing the book,
with their own hands, and attributing it to Allah subhanaw taala. This book, the Holy Bible, they say, this is the book of God, this is dictated by God. Allah says, No, they have written this with their own hands, and they're attributing to me, so go to them, who write this and vote to them for what benefit they get there by
now, this subject of the holy book, The Bible
is a subject of a debate to take place
in Louisiana in America on the third of November, so almost around the corner. And I was on my way there, when the brethren in Pakistan here they said, Look, we want you to share with us, you know, what is going to happen there because we can all be present there. Please tell us something about it. I had spoken on this subject at the folklore Hall, and the hole was too small people get couldn't get in. And so by public demand, I am made to repeat
that lecture from the folk law Hall. So I will
Some of you who might have been there, please bear with me.
The Sunday is is the Bible God's Word?
Now, this is a question that is being thrown at me, over and over again by the Christians set my public lectures, every lecture is followed by question and answers. We do not want to push any thing down people's throats. The Christians don't do that. They lecture to you for an hour, two hours, they push things down your throat, and no questions Did you believe it? So in other words, you are made to sit like sitting ducks, and they shoot at you, and they go away. Now, we do not take unfair advantage of people of other faiths, when we speak on any topic is that at any time, you have a right to question to rectify them, and exposes falsities whatever, you have a fair chance.
So, at question time, generally, the Christian asked the missionary,
do you believe in the Bible as the Word of God?
If you say yes, you're hooked, and if you say no, you're hooked,
is either way its head, in case you lose. If you say yes, then he makes you to accept each and every word and phrase as the Word of God as binding on you. If you say no, he tells his other Christian brother, he said, You see, this man doesn't believe in the Bible. What right has it responded? So either we use heads, I win, tails you lose. So in answer to that, I ask the Bible that you are asking about whether I accept the Bible as the Word of God. So I said, Do you accept this Bible is the Word of God?
Is the Bible is that?
I said, Why? I thought, you say the word Christian. Well, there's only one Bible.
If there's only one Bible that why should you ask me what Bible is this? Not at the back of his mind. He knows that there is not one Bible.
They have versions and versions of the Bible. There is a Roman Catholic version of the Bible, there is authorized King James Version of the Bible, there is a New World Translation by Jehovah's Witnesses. There is a revised version of the Bible, there is a Revised Standard Version of the Bible, there is an American Standard Version of the Bible, and on and on and on different different versions of the Bible. So the Christian says, you see is the same as your translations. You have translations of the Quran, done by different people version and translation is the same. We say version is a translation. This is no No, no, no, no, it is not. So you see the translation of the
Quran, then biomimetic pictorial pictorama, Abdullah Yusuf Ali by Maulana malgudi, and on and on. These are translations, where the person has a choice of words, a choice of words, he can use different terms for the same thing, synonyms
but the version, the different the version next is this,
that this is the oldest Bible.
This is the Bible of the Roman Catholics.
The Roman Catholics, they demo over 700 million in the world today. You know, Baba Pope. The Pope has a head. This is their Bible. And this Bible has 73 books inside.
There are the Bible consists of so many books like this is sutras in the Quran. They talk about Knox, and in this Bible, which is an encyclopedia of 73 books.
But the Protestant world, the rest of the world, you know, they call themselves Anglicans, Methodists, Presbyterians, Lutherans, and on and on and on. There are 1600 denominations among the whites of South Africa, and 3000, among the blacks of South Africa. They opt for this known as the Authorized Version, or the King James Version of the Bible. Now, this Bible has 66 books.
This one had the first one those rocks look so small and stumpy, I don't know why the Catholics key Catholics keep on producing things in this format.
But this seven of the books that are in there, the Protestant world threw them out.
They throw them out.
They are telling us is a no no, no, no. Those seven books are not authentic. They call them apocrypha is a technical term meaning right
it is of doubtful authority according to the Protestants so they threw it out. So can you see the digital version seven books thrown out?
Several less seven less here.
So it's a different thing from the Quran. Nobody takes out a sutra. Nobody
Other words in his translation, and he said, this is a version of the Quran, there's no such thing as a version translations. Yes. Same verses may be a variation in the terminology. That is the translation. This is a version seven box less in the one that's accepted by the masses of the Christian world, the Protestant world.
So, do you accept this one? The Christian says, No. Then I said, Look, why not say there are doubtful things inside they say, look, I agree with you. I agree with you. You say doubtful. So I agree with you that there are doubtful chapters, the books there. Now the Christian is offended with us for taking such a stand.
As we know nothing about this, you tell me and I accept what you tell me.
So you say this is the best, this is what you're using. So let's have a look at this. I said, you see, this one goes to 16 111.
This is quite a recent production from printers, but the text goes to 16 111.
But in recent times, they have revised the Bible into this one here
is called the Revised Standard Version.
So what's the difference between this version and that version?
So now we are told that this version is the most up to date version of the Bible, it goes back to the most ancient manuscripts. most ancient, this one here goes to the ancient ancient means four to 600 days after Jesus, the manuscripts, this one goes to the most ancient two to 300 years after Jesus, so near the origin near the source, the more authentic it would be common sense. So this, this goes to the most ancient. So therefore, this is the most accurate, and certain tributes are paid to this book, by leaders of Christianity.
They say the Church of England newspaper says about this new version, RSV, Revised Standard Version. This is the finest version, which has been produced in the present century. This is the finest version produced in the present century
Church of England newspaper, a completely fresh translation of by scholars of the highest eminence says the times literary supplement,
the very left characteristics of the Authorized Version, combined with a new accuracy of translation, says life and work. Another publication of this the most accurate and close rendering of the original says the Times newspaper in from London,
the most accurate and close rendering of the original.
So if you say so, then you say right, we are prepared to listen to it. Now if this is the most accurate, we will see what he's got to say. So this one now supersedes all translations as a book of authority, authenticity.
So inside there they are pay certain tribute to this one guy, which the Protestant world uses, and even the Roman Catholics, even the Roman Catholics, they don't use their own in the vernacular in the native languages, they use what is done by the Protestants. So every Bible that they give out, even the Roman Catholics, the seven books I'm using, they use the Roman the Protestant Bible, because it suits them, they are printing it the Protestants they buy from them and they sell to the sheep. They don't produce this one in the vernacular in Arabic is not to be God. You can find it in Zulu kazar, China any other language
of the world only in English. So if you want any other language, you have to buy this, the King James Version.
But we are told here by the revises of the authorised King James Version, I'm sorry, the Revised Standard Version.
They tell us
that this King James Version
in the preface I'm reading from there, he said the King James version has with good reason being turned the noblest monument of English prose is a Noblesse monument of English prose. Its revisers in 1881 Express admiration for its simplicity, its dignity, its power, its happy turns of expression, the music of its cadences, and the felicities of its rhythm.
It entered as no other book has into the making of the personal character and the public institution.
of the English speaking peoples, we own it. And in calculable debt. We all create this King James version of debt which you can never repay. I'm asking Muslim, learned brothers of ours literate people educated people, can you pay a better tribute to the Quran than this? If this was said about the Quran as a can you improve upon it? You can, beautiful trip.
But I'm telling my Christian brother, and I said, Now look, this is the testimony tributes being paid to the Bible that you're using. Now, prepare yourself for the shock, not for me, from 32 scholars of the highest eminence backed by 50 cooperating denominations they produce though
they pay the tribute.
Now prepare for the shock.
It says yet the King James Version,
this one here has grave defects. It has grave defects.
By the middle of the 19th century, the development of biblical studies and the discovery of many manuscripts more ancient than those with the King James version was based made it manifests that these defects are so many and so serious as to call for revision, that defects are so many and so serious.
So it calls for revision. So the revised, we want to know what those defects are. Shouldn't we know they are telling us they are defective, that thing is defective, and serious, not just more small things, not tiny, little differences, variation not serious, so great.
So we said now let's have a look. Now the generality of mankind has got no time you got no time to start going wading through this Bible, and his Bible and his Bible to know what is involved. You haven't got the time. So what I have done is I have produced a book
is the Bible, God's word. And this book tells you all these things, absolutely free, the only thing you have to do is to write out a small note to Amati that that's my name, peal box, 1818 Dubai, and get it if you help us with postage, good and good, but if not, no conditions are made. So give us your socket, use a little law, you get this book, every book publication of mine is free to all take it and use it.
That's a permanent record you have in your own homes.
So now to look at these defects, and going through certain books written by my opponent, he has written so many books, I have 30 of those books with me. These are some of them, few of them, but I have 30 different books, all these are his publications. All these are his publications, he sells them, and I bought them. One of them cost me to run in my country is just like $2 to me is like $2 and paying for these little little things for these little things. I paid $2 each minds,
so many more pages bigger, free of charge.
It's, it's in the service of Allah take it use it. So, in his books, he makes mention of certain chapters and verses certain verses,
which are now not to be found in this Bible.
They are not here in the Revised Standard Version.
Why are they not here? We want to know why did you take out important things the kingpin of Christianity. You see the Christian missionary when he goes anywhere in the world to preach. When he preaches he can't help quoting john 316. Nimmo called john the Gospel of St. john chapter three, verse 16, where it says, For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten son, he sacrificed His only begotten Son, to wash away your sins that whosoever believes you'll be saved.
JOHN 316 no missionary can do without such a verse.
Allah subhanaw taala sacrifices only begotten Son.
So look for it here, john 316.
He said the word begotten is not there.
They took it out.
So why did they take it out?
You know, the Muslims. We were supposed to object. Allah Baris Allah in the Quran, as if he cries about this.
In Surah Maryam he says Wakanda has a Rahman wa and they say that man, the Merciful God has been taught my son.
In answer to that Allah says lack of training is one of the most abominable assertion one can make the worst swearing you can give unless this to say that he got a son because this is to attribute an enemy
Nature, the lower animal functions of sex, voila. That is like a man or an animal. Stuff Allah. So Allah reacts strongly. Takada sama, what do you mean who added the skies are ready to burst what I'm shocked and, and to split asunder
and the mountains to fall down in utter ruin. And voila, they should say that are among the most evil god has been
This is the worst thing you can say. Like the worst thing I can give you is just
anything is you overlook you will tolerate. If you have an argument with me, I'm an old man. and old people, they say have a tendency to lose their tempers very quickly that you know.
So in anger says you're a fool. When will you do your
analysis is calling me a fool. I say you know, you are an ox. You know, ox, you are an ox? What do you do? I say you're a monkey.
What do you say? You laugh it off. People, you know, they have a tendency to talk, you know, strong language is strong in the condemnation.
Like an old man, he went to the doctor and his complaining says doctors I have no respect a doctor. You know, I my visibility is very, very poor. I can't see properly. So the hurricane, the doctor says, Well, this is a sign of old age.
This is you know, doctors have my teeth that are shaky, very loose, is that that's a sign of old age center, Dr. Siva can't hear properly. So the doctor says again, this is a sign of old age.
So the woman lost his temper instructor on the face. So this is also sign up for damage.
So you excuse me, you know if I say harsh words. But if I say your mother,
I don't hear one more word from you.
See, all the respect that I have for you will be gone is already gone. But you say to be gone. So don't talk about my mother. Don't talk about my daughter. My wife don't about my sister called me what you like,
call me what you like, but leave my mother out of the picture.
You're gonna react strongly ally react is that this is what they're saying about me that I've got a son is if the heavens had emotions like you, and feelings like you, the heavens would have fallen. If the earth had feelings and emotions like you, the Earth would have split asunder, and the mountains would have fallen down. And if they're feeling like you, they are inanimate. They will know like, feeling and emotion. This is what would have happened such a horrible thing that they say, does that move the Muslims? Does it move? You
know, nobody's moved? In. It's like a big joke. When the Christian says that Jesus is the only begotten Son, be God not made his catechism.
Jesus is the only begotten Son, not made not like Adam, Adam was made by God, every doctor, he was made by God not like that. As such, he is horrible. Allah mean, he is a law of cherishes. sustainer and evolution of the whole of mankind every creature, everything. But no, not in that sense. Jesus has forgotten not made some asking the English speaking people. So what is to be getting your language? Will you please explain? What are you trying to emphasize? When you say not made? What are you really trying to tell me? And believe me, no English man with the name ever opens his mouth to tell me what it means because it's a horrible thing to explain, to say be getting is an animal act?
Is that what God Almighty do?
Is that what you're trying to tell him is because they're not made?
What I'm trying to say?
No, no Englishman in my life, yet has explained to me what he's trying to say, except an American. And I posed the question.
In my meeting with him, I was guiding the follow around the mosque as a guide. And somehow this discussion came about and I asked him, What does it mean? He said, it means sired by God.
That's a term you use in animal husbandry, you know, this past side that one and side that one you know, that's they use it in animal husbandry or the blue, this blue side, that one side that one is the father of this and the father of that the word side is used in animal husbandry. So he said, it means sired by God as
you asked me what it means. So I'm telling you what it means. I don't say that, that God Almighty sired his son. I don't say that, but that's what it means. And that is what it means. So we muslims for 1400 years, we're reading this in the Quran, we should have taken strong exception.
We should have found these people outside talking to them, asking them what is it that you're talking about? Why you swearing?
No, no, the Muslims didn't do anything.
It's a big joke.
This guy, you know, he doesn't know what he's talking about big joke.
The Christians themselves now through this word out from the Holy Bible from the Holy Bible, that this was an interpolation. They have pushed it in, they have invented it, they have concocted it
they will come sacking it. They threw it out. Without any ceremony, no ceremony, they just threw it out. So I said, you see, if this was the word of God, this is God's word. You have no right. to alter or change. You took out the whole world. The most important word in the religion. This is makes an exception of Jesus is not like anybody else. He's been gotten by God is not made by God Adam was made this is because
a lack of a better
way to get out. I said we must take off our hats to the Christians. He's learned men. You know, they are very good. If they can do that. They're honest. They're sincere. Can you see? They know this is a fabrication that goes we are ceremony that we
should be congratulate them. Should we? What grandma's telling us?
is right out it goes. They took it out. Every Muslim child says
they took it out.
I said we will congratulate when you meet your Christian friends called Mr. Lu. Thank you very much. You know my Quran was protesting the Muslim world ought to have protested reason with you. We didn't do it. But thanks to your scholars, they saw that this was a fabrication and honestly demanded that they throw it out and throw it out.
This is now from Jimmy Swaggart book, he quotes the verse with the word forgotten. So I said no look is not in my Bible. In other words, it is not the word of God, what you according is not the word of God.
Then I said you start the book from the very beginning.
The very beginning of the book starts with Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy, you don't have to remember the names. These are supposed to be the books of
the Torah, the juicy part, we say Torah, Arabic, Torah, Hebrew.
So they say this is the word of God, Allah revelation to the Torah, this is the part.
You said, Look, let's see, let's have a look at it. So we look at it. And I tell you that there are in these five books, like five syllables in these five books 700 times
It says, The phrase is used. And the LORD said unto Moses, and Moses said unto the Lord, and the Lord said unto Moses, not least God Almighty, He said unto Moses, and Moses said unto the Lord, 700 times.
In other words, 700 times you're being told that this is not the book of God, and this is not the book of Moses. If Moses wrote those words, he said, The Lord said unto me, and I said unto the Lord, if Allah wrote that a dictator is that I said to Moses, and Moses said unto me, I told Moses and Moses told me, so we know not only that, Aladdin, right, it is not only the book of Allah is not even the book of Moses. These five books, and these people in the in the extra information, they give you the end, the publishers, they tell you about these books as the Genesis, first book, Genesis means the beginning, Genesis, the first book of Moses, in inverted commas, Exodus, the
second book of Moses, second book of Moses, in inverted commas, Leviticus, third book of Moses in inverted commas, numbers, fourth book of Moses in inverted commas, Deuteronomy, fifth book of Moses, in inverted commas, in inverted commas, when you quote something, and you put those commas, which goes to tell people that this is not what I say, this is what the other man said, Friend or foe, whether you agree, or you don't agree with what he said, but these are not my words, they are put in inverted commas. In other words, they're telling you that look, this is not the book of Moses, this is not the book of Moses. This is what people say, this is what people like to hear the people who
buy the book, so we put it for you, book of Moses, but in inverted commas, which the bulk of people don't understand was the inverted commas for this The meaning is that not our words. That's what people say. In other words, I telling you, this is not the book of Moses.
The Book of God is not even the book of Moses. Then in the last book supposed to be that of Moses, Deuteronomy, chapter 34. It says,
and then Moses died in the land of mob over against fear, he died. Can a man before dying say that I died?
I can prophesied about myself.
It might be through force that you know Amati that died in Washington, DC and Reagan attended his funeral. Look, I'm here I'm alive until you I died in Washington, DC I died and maybe can never get old country. I like to die in my own country with my own people. I like to be buried there. But I can say that I will. You know, I'm telling you that you know, I heard some voices and telling me that I'm going to die there. And reaganism attend my funeral.
Can you see? How can Moses said that I died, he died in the land of mob and no one knows his grave and to this day, and and Moses was, you understand English, this is past tense. And Moses was 120 years old when he died, Moses saying that.
And his natural powers have not abated means if he made it is not the 16 year old, he was feeling enough, you know, to have a young wife, his natural powers have not abated. Then this is a rose, not a prophet seals in Israel like unto Moses, whom the Lord knew face to face. did Moses say that since in Israel, somebody else's pocket? Can't you see? You don't have to be a theologian, you don't have to be a DD doctor of religion to understand the simple basic language if you understand what does it mean? It means has a new silence alarm didn't write these books. So as such is not only is not the book of God, it is not even the book of Moses.
Coming to the New Testament,
coming to the New Testament,
in the King James Version, in some modern translations, they omitted these words, which I'm gonna say now, but in the King James version, which bro Sagat uses, this is the one he uses. And this is the one he says in his books, he's advertising this Bible $25 and a little fancy $50
in my country, am offering this book here the Holy Quran, with Arabic text, English translation and commentary, 1920 pages,
for 10 grands, that's $5 10 Grand $5. And if you can afford it as free just right, then get it free. Every school
University Public Library, absolutely free every Muslim madrasa free. And if you can't afford it free, only thing I can't give you free is because I was ended by a, that's gonna kill me, that alone will cost me about four or five times the amount of the value of the book, which I can't afford. But in my country, as is come take it, take it, you can't afford it, you see 1000s of homes a month and you got half a dozen children and you can't afford take it free.
Big Business Bible is big business.
So he advertises this book here, King James version and the King James Version. The New Testament starts first book. The first book is the Gospel according to St. Matthew, second book, The Gospel according to St. Mark's third book, The Gospel according to St. Luke four book the Gospel according to St. JOHN, I'm asking what is this according to according to according to why according to
the gospel, according to Matthew Matthew, according
to john, so what is this according why according to
this little publication, it says there are muddy that that's my book, I wrote it, I am responsible. You can take me to task if I made some utterances here which are false, you can take me to task because this is my book. But if it was, according to the dotnet, is somebody else wrote it? Not me. You are telling that according maybe is no it was not according to what I'm thinking. But you're attributing things to me, it would be a lie against me, but if I wrote it, I'm responsible. But if somebody attributes something to me, according to the study that it could be false.
So every book begins according to according to according to because Matthew didn't sign his name. Mark didn't sign his name. Luke didn't sign his name. JOHN didn't sign his name. These are not these are anonymous books somebody has written and they just say that I think this Matthew could have I think this is the work of Mark. I think, you know, this is it seems to fit fit
To lose mentality, I think only john could have spoken like that. So according according to the internal evidence also shows like, for example, that Matthew didn't write Matthew.
Matthew, chapter nine, verse nine.
It says, while he, that is Jesus was going forth into the way, he Jesus, so a tax collector called Matthew.
And he, Jesus came up to him, Matthew, and said unto him, Matthew, follow me, Jesus, and he met you followed him, Jesus.
I'm asking to Jesus right that did Matthew right that if Matthew wrote it is a while he was going forth into the way he saw me collecting taxes at the tax collector's table. And he came up to me and said unto me, follow me and I followed him. That's Matthew talking. But this is somebody writing the third person.
Not the words of Jesus, not the words of Matthew, and one of the leading lights of the Christian world, JD Phillips, an Anglican, a possibility of the Chichester Cathedral in England. He translated the Gospels, the New Testament into modern English, say most of this English is archaic, you know old fashioned, D, tau and time. So he brought it down to this ordinary, usual level,
colloquial level, the Gospels into modern English and in his preface to the gospel, he says, early tradition, ascribed this gospel to the apostle Matthew. That's what people said that Matthew wrote the book, but scholars nowadays almost all reject the view.
Who's called Muslim scholars, Jewish scholars, Hindu scholars, Christian scholars, Christian scholars have the highest and they say that Matthew didn't write Matthew said the author. We may still conveniently call Matthew conveniently, because you're saying, the first book of the New Testament, chapter nine, verse nine, the first book of the New Testament, chapter five, verse 17, wasting my breath, wasting time in writing, wasting space, Inc. says no, so I said, Matthew nine, nine, as in Matthew 517. Conveniently, I'm using the name the term, said, the author, when we may still conveniently called Matthew has plainly drawn on the mysterious cue. Now this cue is in
It stands for the German word gala means sauce, some mysterious sauces, which might have been a collection of oral traditions, he has used Mark's gospel freely, this man who's supposed to be Matthew has used Mark's gospel freely in the language of the school teacher, he has been copying wholesale from Mark
in the language of the school teacher is copying wholesale from Mark. And Mark was a 10 year old boy, when Jesus walked this earth. Can you imagine an eyewitness as you witness a companion of Jesus, he goes and copies a 10 year old boy who wasn't there does it make sense to you, if it was met, you will be somebody else and the child of 10.
So therefore, we know not only that, it is not the word of God, but it is in the words of matching.
Further conditions, those grave defects that we are talking about.
The Holy Trinity
is another topic at which with which we are at visions. See this word Trinity. Three matey, the Christian who believes in it, the Roman Catholics, the Protestant they all believe in the Holy Trinity, in which they say the father is God the Son is God and the Holy Ghost is God, but they are not three Gods by one God.
The catechism it continues is that the Father is almighty the son is almighty and the Holy Ghost is almighty but they're not three Almighty is but one almighty. It continues. The father is a person, the son is a person and the Holy Ghost is a person, but they're not 3% but one person.
I'm asking the English speaking peoples as I say, What language are you talking?
That's not English. That's gibberish. Not even Greek is gibberish. person, Person person, but not 3% or one person.
But you see, we are so on.
In between the man knows his language does what you think. So, you did not ask him what does it mean? How can it be person, Person person and not represented by one person? How can that be? No, no, you did not ask him because you think maybe in his language, he can justify it somehow. I tell you there is not a Christian boy with his DVDs and why
When degrees who can justify person, Person person, but not 3%? But one person?
I'm asking you, what is the person in your language? Sir? What is that person? I said, You and your two other brothers are identical triplets, I can make the difference between the three of you, one of you commit murder, can we hang the other?
According to your Christian law? He says no. I said, Why can't you? He said, No, he's a different person.
That's the right means he's a different person. As a man, I can make a difference. Whether you can or you can't.
He's a different person. So if your personality is different, you are different, you can't be the same. And in the mind, ask any Christian witnesses in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Ghost. He's got three distinct mental pictures. fatherless different standard looks different when it goes looks different. I won't go into details, but my brother Jimmy Swaggart, he confirms that in his books, that there are three distinct persons, three distinct personalities, three different bodies, he says, and yet they are one, he goes a little further than the rest is three different bodies. And yet this one.
Now the strongest support for this, you know, the word Trinity is not to be found in any Bible in the world. The word Trinity, which is the bedrock of Christianity is not to be found in any Bible, any version in the world. Can you imagine it? That foundation like the kalama, can you imagine? Allah is our is Viola. shadek is one and Mohammed His Messenger is not in the Quran. And yet he said we believe in it. No, it is in the Quran. But suppose is not in the Quran.
Allah is one Lai La la la there is no Allah except Allah. And Muhammad is Rasulullah if it is not in the Quran, and yet we believe in the foundation of his foundation, His Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, Trinity. The Trinity is not to be found in any Bible in the world. But amazing thing, it is in the Quran.
The word Trinity is in the Quran.
But it is at a denial of it. It says Allah says in the Quran, about Trinity, he says, voila, Taku thalassa. Don't say Trinity. Don't say Trinity into the system, it will be better for you in Malawi, Allah Wa, for your life when Allah is not three in one is not one in three. Trinity is in the Quran. But it says Don't say that.
The strongest support that the Christian has for Trinity is a verse, which brother Jimmy Swaggart, he quotes in his book, in his book called The era of the Jesus only doctrine.
Center, the cult among the Christian I didn't know about them until I read this, the Jesus only doctrine, in that he quotes the first episode of john chapter five, verse seven, where it says, four there are three that bear record in heaven, Shahada in heaven, the Father, the Word word stands for Jesus, Thelma.
Kalimantan, Allah tala gave his word upon Mary bestowed upon Mary kalama, the Father, the Word and the Holy Ghost. And these three are one clear statement about the Trinity is their first episode of john, chapter five, verse seven.
This is funny enough, is not in my Bible. It is not in my Bible is not here.
Why is it not there? So 32 scholars have the highest eminence backed by 50 cooperating denominations. They say this was another fabrication.
This was another interpolation. This was another adulteration so they throw it out without ceremony, not even and remark at the bottom to tell you what they have done is just out is not a
look, you didn't do the job.
We didn't do the job. We didn't tell the Christians while otaku selasa nobody. As a matter of fact, some leading lights here, they're killing me. Why are you telling all these to the Christians? Why don't you leave them alone?
I don't want to take his name. I met him this morning. Very important person in your country.
This Christian nerd you talk about Christianity about the Bible Bible wasting time. Look at the Muslims. They're not perfect.
They're not perfect. They're not perfect. But he says, you know, you my brother, you Arab, he's Arab.
I said you read the Quran. I says, you know, one third of the Quran is addressed to Jews and Christians. Do you know that one third of the Quran is addressed to Jews and Christians, yada yada yada yada
seen the Jews and Christians? Are you Jews and Christians? No. Allah says, Well otaku Salah, do you say?
No? Who is he talking about? silica
masuku Maria, who services the Jesus Christ, the Son of God is making Kufa is an act of blasphemy is a collision against a lot Lacan and mercy. But can I say, you have an Israel?
Who is my Lord and your Lord in the human usually Billa who ever associate anyone with ALLAH? Allah, Allah, Allah, Allah will make genda around for them. Not in the fight, apparently that will in place, family salamin and SAR and for the longest they'll be known to hell. Do you say that Jesus is God? No, no. One third of the Quran is addressed to Jews and Christians. So I said, you know you
He's an adult, with apologies to my other brothers. He's an Arab. I said, you know, all these verses must be taken out from the Quran put into a museum.
If these are not to be used and put it in a museum,
why are you making a half isn't art is an activity to waste the time reading it when is not supposed to be used. Allah wants you to use it, he's crying, he's protesting and you have done nothing. We have done nothing. Now somebody comes along, trying to do putting up a little act. Except this, you know, to say, Look, my brothers, this is what it is. Look, I'm trying to say look, this is how easy it is to use it. It's there. They are giving them ammunition to you use it.
So without re protesting we should have said well, aku selasa MSE to the west nothing. We didn't do it. We couldn't do it among the Arabs, ourselves 6 million Coptic Christians in Egypt, they say selasa Did you tell them well, otaku? selasa they say that Jesus is God? Did you tell them?
Did you tell them?
No, you're not doing it. They're doing it for you. They took it out. This wasn't the Trinity threw it out. As an interpolation. adulteration fabrication shouldn't be taken our head to them shouldn't be
So I said, Look, if this was the word of God, you couldn't have thrown it out. God would have particularly his book, as he tells us promises as in the Holy Quran.
Allah will have his own that it is for us to send down the revelation. And it is for us to protect. This is his promise and he has done the job. He's protected his book.
Everyone seven books thrown out here chunks and chunks are being thrown out. By who by themselves.
It is for us to take this up, congratulate them and bring them towards Islam. They are coming towards Islam, but they're dragging their feet, encourage them. They are dragging their feet
We are very good at that. We did it to the Jews for 1000 years, you know that
when they were pogroms against the Jews in Europe, in Poland, Germany, France. They were killing the Jews murdering and bleeding the women and burning their homes every Easter. The Christians reminded us of that these are Christ's killers, they kill our God and they kill them, burn their homes and rape their women. And they ran and they ran and they come to Muslim lands and the Muslims the
most beautiful woods are welcome.
And they came and they lived with us for 1000 years. And in 1000 years. We didn't convert 1000 Jewish families to Islam. This is how good we are.
they are this, you know?
Allah is telling you tell them Yeah, hello kita
you didn't do that. He said, let us remain the status quo. No, don't disturb them, your cousins. So now, this is what you are paying for now Mega 1000 years you have the opportunity to talk to the Jews, you could have absorbed them into marriage this that there will be any juice to be found anywhere in the middle is at least No you didn't do that. You kept them where they are. So now you pay the price. This is the reason
I make them to sit on your head. just
substitute in your place another people from malaria Poonam Salah, and they won't be like you.
There are things in the book, stories and stories.
Our brother Swaggart, he writes beautiful books, his words are very powerful.
Books, pornography, books, Sodom and Gomorrah.
His book incest, his book, alcohol, America.
He made us problem, his book homosexuality, it's called and it's cure. Very powerful books, if you have access to them if you can buy them as they buy them, very good. He in these books is talking like a Muslim. His condemnation of evil is like that of a Muslim. Maybe it doesn't go far enough, his theology is wrong. But his ethics and morality on these topics,
I can improve on it, I can't improve on that. His ethics and morality is good. He centralizes people, he mesmerizes people, people can eat out of his hand, like you call a dog a puppy, and the dog comes along and licks your hand
in hand, he can do that to you. A master of speech, Allah has given it to him, but he's using it wrong theology.
So now, this is what you are paying for now, neglect 1000 years, you had the opportunity to talk to the Jews, you could have absorbed them into marriages that used to be fun anyway, in the Middle East, at least, No, you didn't do that. You kept them where they are. So now you pay the price. This is the revenge.
I make them to sit on your head just
says the substitute in your place and other people.
And they won't be like you.
There are things in the book, stories and stories.
Our brother Swaggart, he writes beautiful books, his words are very powerful.
Books, pornography, books, Sodom and Gomorrah,
his book, incest, his book, alcohol, America's greatest problem, his book, homosexuality, it's caused, and it's cure. Very powerful books, if you have access to them, if you can buy them as a Bible. Very good. He in these books is talking like a Muslim. His condemnation of evil is like that of a Muslim. Maybe he doesn't go far enough, his theology is wrong. But his ethics and morality on these topics.
I can improve on it, I can improve on that. His ethics and morality is good. He centralizes people, he mesmerizes people, people can eat out of his hand, like you call a dog a puppy, and the dog comes along and licks your hand and eats everybody's in hand. He can do that to you. The master of speech, Allah has given it to him, but he's using it wrong theology.
I can't deal with everything. But let me give you a little cursory glance at some of these things. Insist insist. He said the dark stain on our society, American society. He says in the book
is this incest has reached epidemic proportions. It's like an epidemic
in America. You know what is incest? Anybody who doesn't know what is instance, please put up your hand. Don't be ashamed. If you don't know then I have to explain. If you all know then I can carry on. If you don't know what incest is, please put up your hands. Yes.
You see adultery, fornication is you go along out of marriage with somebody else's wife or daughter that Xena.
But if you go and have relationship with your own mother,
that is incest. You have it with your own daughter. That's incest. You have it with your sister is incest, if you have it with your daughter in law is incest. Now you know everybody knows what incest is.
You have somebody else's wife or daughter out of wedlock. That is Xena adultery. You have it with your mother, with your, with your daughter, with your daughter in law with your sister, that sex relationship that is incest. And in the Holy Bible, in this holy book of God in inverted commas. I hope now you understand the meaning of inverted commas in this holy book of God.
There are 10 cases of insects can
can different couplings
of this cases in the Holy Book of God.
So what's the purpose? In the first book of the Bible, there are five cases of insists five couplings in the first book of the Bible Genesis. There are five different incest cases.
That book is a booklet.
And in that booklet, the first book, five cases of incest, as if it is a textbook on incest, if you didn't know what what types of insects you can connect, you read the first book and it will tell you you can do it with your daughters. You can do it with your mother. You can do it with your brother in law you can do it with the sisters
will tell you this is the book of God. I said in inverted commas.
I knew focuses my own study,
I get this little book, he gives me 10. But the four cases, he gives me one more, which I didn't see, in the first book. For I knew, he gives me one more. He's my teacher, he taught me that. There's one extra case of instance, which I didn't know. It speaks there about Nutella Salam. After the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, he goes and lives in a cave, says the Bible, in a place called Zoo for him and his two daughters.
And the eldest daughter tells the younger, that our father is old, you know, he's gone cold. And there's not another man on earth, who can come in and put us in the manner of men. You know what men do that there's nobody else to do that to us. So come, let us make our father drink wine. I'm only reading the Bible, the Holy Bible, word for word. If anybody has it, open it and see word for word,
say our father that is old. And there is not another man on earth, who can come in to ask in the manner of men. So come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will live with him so that we may preserve the seat of our father, even a piece of the Father seed.
And the eldest daughter makes the father drink wine, and she goes in lies with him, and he knew not when she lay down. When she rose.
She didn't know he was too dead drunk, says the Bible.
Then, next night, the elder daughter says this is her sister said yesterday night means last night, I slept with my father, tonight you do the same. So they repeated the performance and pass just like that. valleca. Just like that. Both the daughters of lot were with child by the Father.
incest children of insects, and the firstborn gave birth to a son, and they named him and the other one gave birth to a son and recall his name Amon from the Ammonites and moabites. In the Bible, Ammonites and moabites. When the children of Israel when they were in the Sinai, and when they were told to go and conquer Palestine, they told go and kill the Palestinians, men, women and children. Even saplings are not to be spared little babies suffering the mother's breast not to kill them all. But the children, the Ammonites, and the mobile shall not because they are the children of Lord, blessed father having relationship with his daughters. Those children are blessed. But you
Palestinians Yes, rubbish, killing all this merciful God is telling the Jews kill them all men, women and children
only, and not even saplings. But he's more merciful, some other time in the book. In the book of Numbers, chapter 31, verse 31, he's more merciful to the Palestinians. Now he says, kill them all men, women and children, even donkeys. donkeys even What sin did the donkeys commit? That this God of mercy wants to kill you and donkeys? What have they done, but kill even the donkeys but virgins you must say for yourself. Women wish new man has no had no sexual experience that woman you must say for yourself. And they saved for themselves as the holy book, in inverted commas that the 2000 Palestinian virgins for themselves.
And that tn to watch for the Lord
bloodmoon score 32 was a gotcha. Out of those virgins, Palestinian virgins, am asking what does the Lord do with virgins? What does he do?
You tell me what does the Lord do with virgins, except in the name of the Lord, the priests will enjoy them?
And how do you know that the woman is a virgin? A soldier in the field he comes across a young woman How does he verify? I leave it to your imagination.
You say BOOK OF GOD
10 cases of incest and every instance case that I can quote you blessed, blessed blessed blessed.
You see, we tell stories to our children fables, fairy tales, imagination, Fox and the grapes. You know the story the fox he sees a vine of grapes with a bunch of grape hanging and he jumps wants to get grapes you know foxes don't go for grapes you know that? You know that? foxes do but this is the fable fable
series jumps and jumps and every time he jumps is losing his energy and he can reach it and he is fed up the fox is fed up so does it look sour grapes
we all do that you know that when you can get things as no good is rubbish sour grapes. So we are telling our children these fables to mill the moral lesson. Don't be like that greedy Fox when you can get the thing is bad is for sour. Or like the gritty dog. He found a bone. It picks up the bone in his mouth and is crossing a wooden bridge or wherever and he sees his own reflection in the water. Thinking that there is another dog with a bone in his mouth and is great
For the other dogs born and he loses but he has said my son, don't be like that. But God gave you a little bit line shocker.
says Be grateful Allah will give you more. Don't be greedy for the other dogs bone, morals, morals,
morals in our children. Without morals The thing is immoral.
If there's no moral you're wasting time.
Dr. Vernon Jones, an American psychologist of great repute, you know, the Americans are great. I tell you, I can quote Americans, what would they say beautiful things.
An American psychologist of great repute. He carried out experiments on groups of schoolchildren, to whom certain studies will be great.
And he says his conclusion that these stories made certain slight but permanent changes in character. Even in the narrow classroom situation. The type of stories you tell Katie the type of mentality that they have
is a forgotten thing. You tell you to remember Jim, Jim Butcher spirit outsiders and they look at you you see a child how it behaves. Darkness he can go out even with the porch won't go out. Why not? Because you talk about Jim Jim butina spirit blue What do you call it?
I don't know what to say anatomy. But spook spook you keep on telling you
they become spooky.
So whatever you tell them incense, incense, incense Little wonder that it has reached epidemic proportions in America. And in my country. 8% of all white people they commit incest with their own daughters, one in every 12 is cohabiting with his own daughters. These are the living fathers
in America, maybe that percent or more.
So is a type of stories that you read will create the type of mentality that you have you keep on reading incense, incense, incense, incense.
It is not the book of God move of God for what reason is telling you about 10 cases of incense you tell me, what's the motive? What's the reason got to tell you about what did it is not just the Bible says Ruben he did it to his mother. Judah, the father of the Jewish add to his his daughter in law, he by Marisa la Mustapha lady with the sister, and on and on and on, for what reason?
Reason. No models as a model
can be the book of God. Alcohol,
very strong condemnation.
He tells us gives us figures here. He says there are 11 million drunkards in America. In my country, they call them alcoholics. They don't say blanket term card is an insulting term, especially the white man. You can say he's a drunkard. You say he's an alcoholic in his sick profile. This is the kind of sicknesses got
11 million drunk cards, he says, and 44 million heavy drinkers. And he says, and I have to agree with him. He said I make no difference between the alcoholics as the drunk as and the heavy drinkers to him. They are the same.
In Islam, he says as a one step further. Even your social drinkers istar will include even your social drinkers
is just a thought because of an MBA Kareem sallallahu Sallam he said so whatever intoxicating greater quantity is forbidden even in smaller quantities, no excuse for a nikora thought. He said cursed is He who goes gristle brewing. If your intention is that from this fruit, you're gonna make wine alcohol. You are an average person. If you plant fruit trees for eating the fruit, you're blessed for selling the fruit you are blessed. But if you plant it with the idea of brewing it you are an accursed person he is a cursed is He who grows grapes for brewing. Cursed is He Who crushes it. Ghost is He Who waters it. Ghost is He Who says it and cursed is He who drinks it. No excuse for
the Muslim to have any dealing with this stuff.
Stan has the answer. His time his answer to your problems. You talk about Don't drink too much. When does the guy know when he has reached too much? When he always starts taking when
you've got now 55 million 11 million blankets and 44 million heavy drinkers and others in the line in the queue they following the same way you call your social drinkers. Islam has the answer is the only religion is the only religious book on the face of the Quran which says don't touch that filthy dirty thing. He
says oh you believe in tomorrow, most certainly intoxicants. Well. My son went gambling while and Sabu and fortunetelling. Well, Islam when I recently nomina shaytan are an abomination of Satan's handiwork. First time you are looking to shun such abomination that you may prosper. The only religious book on the face of the earth which says don't touch that stuff is the Quran and Islamic teachers. Don't touch it.
solution to the problem become Muslims. And I in my dear brothers and sisters,
I know this so much that I know what I'm going to do there. You see, I'm supposed to speak for an hour and my opponent speak for an hour. Now I get the news that he's got cold feet. He's talking about 20 minutes. Can you imagine speaking for 20 minutes on 66 books, the foundation of his faith, the Holy Bible, he's going to speak for 20 minutes and he is now want to get me also for 20 minutes. control me straight jacket me for 20 minutes. 20 minutes.
I don't know what's gonna happen, but we are going through with it. inshallah. We'll press. The condition of the contract was in LA, South Africa speak for an hour each. Now when I'm here, I get the news. The guy's gone down to 20 minutes. And maybe like a school children. You know, he was to have a school children's debate. There are 50,000 people that come from hundreds of miles 1000s of miles. And he said for 20 minutes listen to swagger in 20 minutes, listen to deedat
I'll end with this.
He hasn't written a book yet. Out of the 31 of the pressing problems of America is surplus women, surplus women. in America today, there are 7.8 million more women than men. If every man in america got married,
if they'll still be 7.8 million women who can't get husbands if they married.
In the city of New York alone, there are 1 million more women than men 1 million. There are more women than and they are hunting for men. They are doing the hunting now. Not men and men are hiding one third of them against sodomites one third
with a million extra women. One third of your population is gay sodomized
and 98% of your prison population is men and men get cold feet for so many different reasons. You know that some of the young men I come across a but are you married? He says no. So what's wrong? What's wrong with you?
I think you Mr. Jones's daughter is very bright. And I take him and everything is getting ready preparations is that they agreed. And this guy gets cold feet. men get cold feet for so many different reasons. You may you want me to give you details. men get cold feet you know they get frightened. They want to marry and the back out.
The backs out like a woman. Chickens out so chickens out, man.
So can you imagine the problem? If every man got married, they'll still be 7.8 million. With one third of your copper publishes gay sodomized your problem? Can you imagine? They literally going to the dogs? I'm telling my brother. All right, it might sound like a joke. But many serious things I said in jest. jokingly, I can pass it on to you. You will take it. I hope my sisters don't mind.
The mind. Don't curse me. You know, you can say do that is a bad follow. But don't curse me.
I'm telling my other brother. Your countries are sparsely populated. Hardly Saudi Arabia, such a vast expanse, such original and new manpower.
With all the manpower, you're importing, still not enough. Same thing to your UAE new manpower.
So why don't you go to instead of going to Bombay and Beirut, and France and London, Paris and London, why don't you go to New York and solve the Americans problem. I tell you what
each of you bring for for each. And it's cheap. Voila for each and increased Omar, you can do propagation you can do de la do procreation, you will be increasing the oma, you don't get pleasure and Kazuma. With that way, you solve the problem and you solve your problem. We need more population, and they have to get rid of the surplus women solve the problem solvers and they'll bless you for it.
Mr. Chen is not yet.
Ladies and gentlemen, with these words,
I now leave this meeting, open to questions. Maybe there are a lot of things that you want to know about this topic of the Bible, or about any other thing relating to Islam and Christianity. I am your servant, I'm at your disposal. I need your prayers in this Alhamdulillah Allah has given me knowledge.
Knowledge enough inshallah to turn off the jackboots brain. Allah has given me that knowledge. What I need is your dua, your prayer, may Allah tala, you know, keep me going for a little while longer, that I can serve Islam and that I may share with you in some of these little knowledge that I acquired that you may also in turn good
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because the mic here, or they can ask
they'll give you a mic.
If not, if there's difficulty I can relay the question to the audience.
It's not a question. So what I would like to say, and I'd like to say in English, because it's meant for you,
It's about Jimmy Swaggart. For those who
haven't seen him before, it's difficult to form an opinion about how he acts how he behaves. I believe after seeing him once in the United States,
that if the US have paid 1000 million dollars, to form such a person, to say only what he said in one lecture, they would have been well paid,
I was in the States as a guest of American company.
And every evening, they'll come take us for dinner outside.
One evening, I was invited on the opposite television, there was Jimmy Swaggart there.
And he was used to do it, and you said your lecture, but I didn't see you move one meter here or a meter there. He was getting the microphone moving like a comedian or
bobbing himself here, making his hair like that. And he was talking about elevating stories.
And that actually what made me keep on watching.
And he spent about 15 minutes praising the most elegant stars, trying to convince people that they were the most blessed, most loved by God. Of course, he meant the sons of Jacob, the sons of Israel.
And at the end of his lecture, he said, that any person or any country or any regime that oppose the sons of these people
will not live happily and he will be destructive. And he gave example, he said, look at Pharaohs look at Nebuchadnezzar, what happened to him? Look at the Roman Empire. Look at the Ottoman Empire. And he said in his words is look at the Great Britain. She was the greatest country on Earth. Now she is an island in the sea. And unless they regret what they have done to the EU for not delivering all Palestine to them, before leaving, they will become like a fisherman village.
And he said, You Americans, if you ever let go, your help and your assistant to Israel, you Americans will become like what other people have come.
Now he was like a person passing on rope.
And all he needed was a man to tickle the rope only to make him fall down. But unfortunately, it wasn't a terrible it wasn't possible at all.
Because everybody is going to die.
The Roman Empire of course vanished. The Ottoman Empire vanished like every every every nation in the past. They themselves they had Kingdom in Palestine, it went away. So it wasn't an excuse. Was it a proof that these people oppose them? And again, I was sorry that nobody could tell him about his lights. But God wanted me to give me that chance and this evening was 50 people or table.
Some of the people who were talking about Jimmy Swaggart last night lecture, I pretended to be having my dinner. Quiet. My friend, you noticed I was the only foreigner who said we are talking about somebody who gave a lecture about cruciate acid. Is it Jimmy Swaggart with loud voice? Everybody listened the steepy Wilson, he said yes. Did you see that?
I said yes, I saw it. But he was talking about anybody star. Who are they? You said the sons of Jacob. I said unto the people who bought it and tried to kill their brother.
He said, Yes. I said, you call them plotters and mentors because they have committed the murder or loaded necessity, really committed that they are mentors. They are plotters, and then they went to their old father and lied to him and told him that your son was eating by the wolf. So they are liars. Now this Jim is what I want to know his phrasing such people trotters birther is and liars. In
their beginning, that beginning was like that.
Everybody listened? No, it appears to me that Americans need some need some action on higher levels and is now not an individual person to go their addiction. It is because their their propaganda propaganda in the States, they will spend 10 years 15 years to build up a person like this, just to say one word, and then it's finished.
I wish you the best of luck insha Allah Allah, Allah Kumar, and I'm sure God will bring you back victorious on your show.
Bible the God's Word or not?
states something about MGM.
is just clear my understanding these studies. Just explain a little bit, which is
I'm very happy with the question it gives me an opportunity to explain. Usually when I'm delivering a talk on the subject, I do explain all that beforehand. But since the subject has grown, and since I'm going to deal specially with our friend Jimmy Swaggart, on the other side, I was trying to curtail myself with regards to this topic itself.
Now we Muslims are made to believe in for heavenly books.
We believe in the Torah.
We believe in the baboon, we believe in the Injeel. And we believe in the full con Furqan.
Is the Holy Quran. In these four heavenly books, we must attest our belief, otherwise, we are not Muslims.
Now, when we say thoradh, what is Torah? You must know what is this Torah? What is this about? What is
the bulk of our people? Unfortunately, they don't know. So they caught up, they get caught up with this Christian missionary.
You know, terminology, they get caught up within their own web, for example, the lectures that I deliver, sometimes they say, look, a lot of our Arab brethren here, they don't understand English, so it should be translated. And the best of translate so far. When I say what the Bible says about Mohammed, Salah Salem, the translator says, what the Torah says about Mohammed in Arabic, I can understand when he's speaking Torah, and he says about Muhammad. I'm interjecting I say, look, I didn't say that. So he said, what the Injeel says about I said, I didn't say Angel.
What's wrong with you? I said, Bible and you say Torah, I say Bible and you say Angel.
The Bible is not the Torah is not the engine. This Bible is written by 40 different persons supposed to be 66 books, written by 40 different authors. Sir Tara
vbd, is a revelation
from Allah, and we believe in the revelation that it was true and from Allah through guidance from God, in jail is the revelation the wahi, that Allah Allah gave, because
we believe that that revelation was from Allah and it was true.
We believe that the revelation roughly that Allah,
Allah is abou but where are these revelations as the Christians? Look, I told you that the Christian themselves say that moves or didn't write these five books. Why must you say is the thought that when is it
Is the Torah isn't your own authors are telling us the internal evidence of that muscle Islam didn't write it. He didn't write his own obituary about his own deck, you know, obituary writing things on the on your tombstone. You know what a great guy that is new people. prophets have been inside they write their own obituaries, about about the death that I died when he's still alive. And I'm a man I can marry a young woman of 12 or 16. Did he say that? Did he say nobody like me has a yet come yet?
yet? No. So the the, the books themselves be a testimony that hazard musala slam didn't write these books.
But we believe that whatever was given to others masala Salam was from Allah, he would have no reason to write in His Torah, five different cases of incest.
A man of God has got nothing to do writing
for what may benefit? Why would he write this? That he has a brother in Prophethood he committed incest with his daughters. And Reuben, one of his leaders, one of the
stars, one of those stars committed insects with his mother.
The other star, the star, the other star, he committed incest with his daughter in law by the roadside Judah. This is the report committees of incest, liars, murderers.
I don't believe that, except what the Quran says that they did plot against Yusuf Ali Salaam. And they did throw him into the well as they went to destroy him. And then they went to later on they want to sell him also. And they like to the Father all that I accept what Allah says but committing incest with his daughter in law, this for what purpose? You're gonna say that?
No, we say Tara is the revelation which God gave to Moses, if you can produce that
we'd be prepared to give it a look in jail is the revelation that Allah gave to us.
And we read now the Christians when they translate the Bible into Arabic, they tell you in Gili metu
it means in JIRA of metric in JIRA, Marcus in GLA Lucas in GLA yohanna. I'm asking where is in GLA Isa, we are made to believe in GLA Isa, the one that came to Isa, not Matthew, Marcus Lucas, john Johannes, can you see but you are so blind, so foolish is even this engine engine. This is not in
the Bible says that he went to a certain place as the Salah, Salah, and he preached the engine, he went another place indicates that he went to another place and he preached in jail. Right? Did he carry a book under his arm? in jail?
Which he was opening and reading from No, is that message which he gave was the key, if you can produce that, with his signature, we Muslims are bound to accepted as the Word of God, we are bound you can produce something written by others musalla with a signature. So we are bound to accept that this is the Torah that has left but it is it you yourself say it is not even measured in light. Matthew is the engineer Matthew is not unique.
So, so is a principle. Remember this is the principle we accept that the revelation that was given was from Allah and it was true, but they have not preserved it. Therefore Allah sends another revelation to supersede what is there. So is the principle we believe in, not in a book in a form, whether written on stone, or in book form on paper, is not the book is the message is the Torah. The message is the Injeel the messages is not the books that they are pervading today.
you're wanting to do
The question is that we are going to use certain like last night, I use verses from the New Testament, from which I proved that then I wanna be a Korean sallallahu Sallam is still mentioned in the book is still there in the corrupted book as it is still there. So now if I use a verse from the Bible, does that do I not contradict myself, one stage I say this is not the book of God and other stage I use
To prove my case,
you see the Bible, we say, have four different types of evidences in the book four different types in the Bible.
If you studied you'll find there is a word of God is there. A last column is there, the word of the Prophet is there, the word of the historian is there, and many other things besides is there, I was showing you. There are four different types of evidence in the Bible.
And it doesn't need a super brain, a mastermind, you know, a DD or a theologian to see that simple basic you can see it. Like, for example, in the book of Deuteronomy, you read something there. It says, I will raise them up a prophet from among the brethren like unto thee, and I will put my words in his mouth, and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him, I will raise them up a prophet, who is is I? The Jew will tell you God, who is this I, the Christian says, God,
the Muslim, if you read it, you can also see a lot, okay? This is not the word of Moses. This is not the word of historian. This is the word of God. I says, who came along IBM invati What a mess locker kalami FIFA Mickey
Mouse he This is who's talking is a goddess talking. You can see it on the very face of it. Another place in the book of Isaiah in the Bible, it says, I am God and there is none else. I am God and this nun like me, who's talking?
Allah tala speaking through this prophet Isaiah, he is speaking about himself. These are the words coming from the lips of Isaiah, but they are not his words. These are the words of God, he's speaking as a mouthpiece. So there is this type of evidence, which you will be able to recognize in the Bible.
Then you will also find another type of evidence where the prophet of God is speaking, like Jesus, he says, This is it has been said by them over time, Thou shalt not commit adultery, But I say unto you, Whosoever looketh upon a woman to lust after her, hath committed adultery with her already in his heart, But I say unto you, who is this I, Jesus? It has been said, by them of all time that whosoever puts away his wife, let him give her a bill of divorcement. But I say unto you, Whosoever puts away his wife, say for the cause of fornication, causes her to commit adultery, and whosoever marries her that is divorced, committed adultery. Who is this I, Jesus? It has been said, by them of
own time and eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. But I say unto you, but this is not evil. He strikes you in the right cheek, give him the other who is his eye, Jesus.
There's another type of evidence, Shahada. Then there is another type of evidence. He says, while he was going forth into the way he Jesus, he was going for he Jesus saw a fig tree in the distance with leaves happily he Jesus came up with one thing to find fix there on but when it came up to it, if I'm nothing but leaves, he found nothing but leaves Jesus for nothing, for the season was not yet who is talking now, not Jesus, not God, but an eyewitness or a witness or somebody speaking from GSA and historia. see another type of evidence. Then there is the other type of evidence which I did not read it to you from the book of Ezekiel, my South African Christian government, they banned extracts
from the Bible, as filthy, dirty pornography. I didn't have chance to deal with it. pornography.
So now you have the word of God, you have the word of the Prophet, you have the word of the historian, and you have pornography all in one book. Now you can't take the book and say this is the book of God, but the Word of God is there, the word of the Prophet is there, the word of the historian is there and pornography is there. Now we also have something similar.
In Islam, we have Columbia Law, the word of Allah the Quran, it is only Allah Allah.
Then we have the books of Hadith wasn't the Prophet separate volume. Then we have the words of of historian it morose, Edna Hassan
and on and on, our historians go up great men, separate books. Quran separate volume, had a separate volume, historian separate volume, and we had long before Islam, the Arabs, you know, around the campfire was talking filthy, dirty stories, two passes night, what you call the Arabian Nights. You have that too, but it's a different volume.
See, the Quran is different. Separate compartment has a separate history, separate pornography separate. They have everything in one book. And now they want to push the whole book down your throat. So this is the word of God. So we say no, this is not the word of God, but the Word of God is there. So you use in any human
discussion, debate again.
differences, you have a case, you have a case against your brother. And he testifies against you in the court of law, your lawyer, he's going to pick up from his evidence, certain statements, and he's going to take them to prove to the judge that the guy is lying, lying, lying. And he proves his case, by taking your evidence, your opponent's evidence, you only take what is favorable to you. You don't follow everything he said. But that what you think is fair, will you use that? And he says that look, Your Honor, I said, I want absolution with costs, means I want to be absolved from the charge and he must pay all the costs. And you will get judgment if you can prove to the judge that
the guy is lying, lying lying. Now, the guy can say but you know, you accept this word of mouth. What about that? No, it doesn't work that way. If I can, whatever you said from your words, your speech your testimony, I can prove my case I use that the others you throw it aside one side. So this is how all human efforts work all human discussions, dialogues work and that is exactly we are doing. Here. You say not use it and then you are not taking it out. We protested about
the Quran protested. He said look, but he said in the book, you must accept it as analog here, now you are recognizing your mistake, you threw it out. So thank you about the garden centers, you threw it out about the ascension, you threw it out. This is so many things, but NASA use a three out. So in other words, now I still have to agree with you. You were at one time they will disagreed. Now we agree with you that it shouldn't be there. Just because now one thing is right. Then the other thing Trinity we suppose it was not taken out. You want us to swallow that to me this is a fabrication. This is the fabrication. This is the fabrication. Where is a fabrication is a fabrication where we
confirm you confirm Allah tells us in the Quran, he said this has come to confirm the previous revelation and to preserve to protect it
from any type of change the Quran is an a touchstone of finding out what is right and what is wrong. I hope that satisfy the question is
so just like the Muslims believe the Quran, revelation to Prophet Muhammad
is believing that Bible is also a revelation to Prophet Jesus.
In the language, Arabic
is the Bible in the original language of Jesus Christ.
My brother Jimmy Swaggart and other missionary Christian missionaries, why don't they produce the original Bible?
translations in English or other languages? And
they study Quran in Arabic.
Without the money,
no Jesus Christ, there's nothing preserved his original tongue.
All the gospel manuscripts they have their boasting about 24,000 manuscripts. Not one is written in his mother tongue.
For what reason that a Jewish prophet comes to Jews speaking the Jewish language of it, they get samples examples in the book that he spoke Jewish. Like the worst Sorry, sir Kumi de la, la la la la la Sabatini and to Saul Paul, he speaks in the Hebrew language. The Bible says, Well, he spoke to him in the Hebrew language, then why should his words be not preserved in Hebrew? is a mystery with the Christians muscle, not for us? The fact is, it is not there. Jesus didn't write a word. in his lifetime, not a word was written. He didn't ask anybody to write anything. This is how good it is. So that is the answer. And I will give one more chance. One more question. And we will have to close
the meeting after that one more question or whoever it is, just after you can come forward. And you can ask the question, the last question
or last two. The other brother had been caught up before and he went and sat down. Last two. I hope you don't mind. The audience. Last two.
It wasn't like
that. They say that
come up with
Who's this guy?
for the contribution?
This is the last question.
It's a pleasure to see this beautiful face, once more
final final words to describe.
And I do believe, even in his absence, he is with us. So many of us to have seen to see him in the video
and to listen to the audio cassettes
and his mission is not made specially for him alone. It is made for all of us, for every one of us. And I really wonder why some people try to stop him from what he is doing.
Just ignore the
lecture for doing what he is doing.
And I say nevertheless, why are these people travel away from what he's doing? Because most of us, we have the book before anybody else have that conscious? We don't like to see somebody coming from Africa.
We think we are.
This is our idea. We have to get out of our heads and we have to face reality and we have to face face to face the man in America
in his own subject.
And what do we do? We carry on weightless lives are not yet good Muslims, we have to be good
Muslims, it's astonishing.
outside our own doorstep,
convey the message.
type of Deputies in our living
anymore. We visual way of
doing this. We are receiving all the metals pouring to us through television.
consumption. We're doing nothing.
Long, long life long life.
when we find such a man we should give
all of you to give that support. And the support you can give to this man is to stop his works to listen to his face to see his video.
now have a very small
time that we should ask the question.
The Christians are doing that for us. They are coming into our homes and they are challenging us about the Quran. You see we ourselves we didn't wake ourselves up but the enemy Allah is making them to prod you to study the Quran. I could have given you numerous, numerous examples about the methods how they use the Quran against a Muslim. So it's something Charla is through the enemies Allah makes it he makes his enemy to do his work for him. He made
that his job that he can do it. So now is the Christians they are now making you to read the book The Quran, for example. I was just telling somebody this afternoon
about a new type of attack against a wannabe creme de la Salaam. I will end with this you see the new type of attack he said, you see your Prophet sallallahu wasallam, the Holy Prophet Muhammad. He was not only
unlettered but he was also a giant, ignorant.
He was only a jackal and we can guide if he has knowledge he can guide you, but a giant is going to mislead you. says What are you talking about? What are you referring to? So the Christian says as you see in Surah Maryam it says there was clearly traces Fatah de Omaha tamiu, who said when she brought the bait with people after the birth of marimon Islam being pregnant, she returns to a remote place in the east. And after the birth of the child, she returns carrying this little infant, Allah describes the scene for the day he called Maha Mudra. Who, so the people says kalu Yama Areum.
people that are married truly an amazing he has an abroad Russia, Yokohama, a sister of Harun Makana, Abu kyndra. So when mama
said Your father was not a man of evil, nor was the mother, a woman and Chase, how is it that you brought this child without a husband? Anything that is legitimate.
Now the charges yo Haruna sister of heroin is your profit didn't know that musala salam and harmless lamb they had a sister call Miriam, same as Miriam in Arabic and in English,
and has a thesis on Islam has a mother called Maryam Mary or Miriam saying that your prophet is getting confused between that medium and this medium. And the gap in time is 1300 years between that medium and this medium. Your prophet didn't know the difference.
So our learned man says Nah, you see this is a
beautiful way of showing her relationship. Maria Maria Salam was a very well from the leading the daughters of Amanda
musala salon with will leave it and it was a family tradition.
It was a family tradition and in that family tradition, medieval Islam is born. So the charges you come from such a noble priestly family Your father was a good man your mother was a good woman How is it that you grow this child without the husband? And we Muslims we agree with that beautiful, beautiful explanation. But the Christian nods his head is
your white washing your Prophet he didn't know the difference.
So now we have to put on your cat is attacking the Quran. So if you know the enemy's book, as well as commanding you to lose a cool how to produce your evidence is produced it use that. So in a meeting like this, the Christian missionary threw this at me. So I said you see the answer to your problem is in your book. It is Inaudible.
So the first book of the New Testament, Chapter One was 1111. You'll never forget when you have three aces in a game of cards, you know three aces. When you know that three aces, there's only one left and anybody can have that you will three C's.
first book chapter one first book, chapter one, verse one. So what does it say? As it says, This is the generation of Jesus crashed.
His genealogy, his birth his ancestors who they were the son of Abraham, the son of David. Select select.
The book says son of Abraham, he sadly Salam is the son of Abraham. He is the son of David, as in the Gospel of Luke, he says is the summer
in the Gospel of Mark is the Son of God. So Abraham is his father. David is his father. Joseph is his father and God is his father, a person who's got four fathers. What do we call them in your colloquial language in the street?
It doesn't mean that so what does it mean? You
know, you see, he comes from the
mobile family of drama salon. He comes from the kingdom the family of Salaam. He's supposed to be the son of Joseph, but clearly He's the Son of God.
But the book doesn't say that is the son of Abraham. Abraham is his father, son of David David, his father, son of Joseph Joseph.
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