Shocking statements of Mirza Ghulam Qadiani – Conversation with Ex-Ahmadi
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right, right, okay. And all of a sudden he starts saying, well, so it's a funny story. He says Anyone can be a prophet. He says a gunner can even be a prophet. And he says, just all you got to do is repeat. Chapter one. I think it's the first six or seven guidance on the right path. He says, we're asking to be prophets every day.
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how are you? I'm doing all right. So I'm not sure if you guys know or remember, but, uh, some like, brother Adnan. I just watched your videos. I'm an ex Qadiani I'm Muslim now. Alhamdulillah.
You know, we watched it with great attention, taking notes, finding all the references, you know, and etc. But I did have some questions about that. And, you know, Muslims, like the general Muslim scholar isn't isn't versed in Qadiani arguments and excetera. So, but um, you had mentioned that the Brahimi ama deal was an excellent book.
And that's simply not the case. It was it's, it's in that book, he makes one argument he promised 300 arguments, but he makes one and the one argument is he's a prophet. So it's like, the Obama immediately did the fear on him. Only one person defended him and that's what a quote that says like a school fellow is friend. But reveal, yeah. And Briony Ahmadi, I didn't make the argument there is a profit. Now it was published in 1887. In Amritsar, he was nowhere near claiming to be a prophet at that time. He claimed to be a prophet, or he declared his alleged Prophet toad in 1902 19. Barbara Hina, Medea basically was a defense of Islam. It was supposed to be as you rightly pointed out, that
they were they were supposed to be many, many, many more arguments, but he came up with this and he spent a lot of money he raised money from the Muslims. Okay, well, praise the book when I praise the book. I didn't mean the book is perfect. There is no perfect book. Okay.
It is very nicely published, it is a very nice print, I can I can even pull it out from my library right now. I have the first edition in my library, okay. And there are certain things that are two places that he makes good arguments, but at the same time, when Qadiani or Ahmadis, tried to use my statement to claim as if I am praising Mirza Ghulam, Muhammad Qadiani. They don't know what they're doing. They are very inconsistent. They are experts. To my experience, they are experts of cutting and pasting and ignoring the context. For example, now, if I was to praise Hitler, let's say, as a as an absolutely mesmerizing orator, am I endorsing his actions? No.
Anyone who knows oratory, and public speaking in the history of humanity, you will put Hitler somewhere in Top 20 Top 10 as a speaker as a public speaker, but he was an evil man. He was an evil man, despite the fact that he had these abilities that he used for evil ends doesn't make his entire life
worthy of praise. So likewise, I mean, let's give you let's give you more controversial example, Salman Rushdie, Salman Rushdie. Okay. Are you going to tell me that the guy doesn't know how to write?
Are you going to tell me that his English is not good? He doesn't have a good command on the English language? Absolutely not. Absolutely not. The guy has a good command on the English language, but he's used his command to do evil things. Okay. Likewise, Mirza Ghulam Muhammad Qadiani had done some good work, no doubt. Okay. But at the same time, he's used his good works.
To claim something he had no right to claim. He's used his fame he had gained from debating Arya Samaj, you know, and also some Christians. He got some gain as you mean like nowadays if you start debating Christians on a major on a major level, okay. Naturally, Muslims will get to know you. They will you will go around the world you will debate people you will raise questions you will respond to their attacks, you will become somewhat like a hero of Islam. Okay. People will start to see you as someone in positive light or you will they will start to look up to you. This is what happened in Resolve Alana Qadiani
He was initially defending Islam against the attacks of audio Samad and from Christian missionaries who were backed by the British government and run. But then he himself did something worse than what those people were doing. He right I'm
sorry to interrupt you, but so so I research this like so there's new information that's came out about Mirza Ghulam mammoth. So a for example, in that book, Briony Amethi, it's in English, it wasn't in English until like 10 years ago or like seven years ago, brother he's claiming verses of the Quran about Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa sallam for example chapter 61 940-820-8933 This is where
he says he is is
the same as Muhammad Salah have some stuck for a lot but in that book he's saying that and brother in fact that the other mile India I think almost a lot of people did at the fear on him immediately after the fourth publishing of brainy rhenium media, which was an 18 a bore. So he only got defended by one guy and they bring that up, but Yeah, no worries. I understand it and all sensible Muslims understand it, but that they've been cutting that from I think Dr. SRM has a
has a piece of his speech where he says that also and, and Okay, so about the Christians, this is the problem, they always do this. Now, you see, in my three hour conversation with this gentleman called Ibrahim. Okay.
I mentioned this passingly just as a side point, that his book has good things in it. It is a good book. Okay. I mean, many people disagree with that, of course, I understand why they disagree with that, because then there are certain pages that are blank. And there is only one word on one page. I have. I have the actual book. So there are there are a lot of stupid things about the book as well. No doubt. Some of them is really big. Some of the font and in volume one is like it's like the 20 words. Yeah, so So look, when I when I prayed that particular work. I'm not saying every single thing in it is great. I'm not I'm not. I'm saying it has good arguments in it. It would have been
good book. Otherwise, if he had not claimed to be a prophet. One could, you know, say, Okay, this is a book in defense of Islam. Okay, he's, he's defending Islam against the enemies of Islam. So it could it could stand like a book, you could say, was written in defense of Islam, but later on his later actions, and his later claims that his absurdities and his visions and his absolute madness, you know, right to be established alarm, and he's claiming to be Muslim and Islam, Krishna need to be pregnant. All these things, okay. The guy was not, he was not right in the head. He was right. He was mentally unstable. So I'm gonna go a little deeper. So So in 1891, he claimed to be the Messiah,
etc. And he denied prophethood for 10 years. He said, I'm not a prophet, Mohammed, this. So Noonan had brought up that the first Khalifa is the Mohammed this never that never happened. Never made no. Let me let me add to something there. He actually said that. I send longer upon the one who claims to be a prophet. Yes, yes. Yes. He,
at this time, the period you're referring to, he actually said that, hum Shakspere landed based on the work of our time. Right, right. Okay. Then all of a sudden, he starts saying, well, so it's a funny story. He says, Anyone can be a prophet. He says a gunjur can even be a prophet. He says just all you got to do is repeat. Chapter One, I think is the first six or seven. Guide us on the right path. He says we're asking to be prophets, every us look for Allah. No one can become a prophet. You can't achieve it. You got to be born it right. So So anyhow, Mirza Ghulam mammoth, what he did was really bad. Because if you know about the sister situation with the Hindus and Ron de la Rasul,
which, which was written in 1927, that was written in response to the Guardian needs. So the Guardian is we're fighting the Hindus, why are you fighting the Hindus, bro? There are in the situation that we're in, they're on our side for freedom, you know, Why are you attacking the ARIA Semaj who are anti government? You know, you shouldn't be attacking them. So so that whole thing with the Hindus you don't some people shouldn't try to represent Islam. I mean, you're gonna, you're gonna make an embarrassment of all of us. So you should just not okay so.
So then, this look, this makes sense when you look at the British tactics to divide and rule. Okay, in India, Mirza Ghulam Muhammad Qadiani was one of those tools you can say they tried to use to divide the Muslims and Christians and Hindus so that they don't politically unite put so much hatred between them that they cannot politically unite to do away with the British. And as we
No clearly from his works he praised the British Empire the British government in particular Queen Victoria with lavish tributes