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The speakers discuss the controversial topic of micro evolution and the lack of scientific support for the Hadee's movement. They stress the importance of direct communication and personal development, acknowledging the negative impact of social media and the danger it pose to individual speakers and groups. They acknowledge the need for improvement and emphasize the importance of empowering individuals to live their lives.

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Salam aleikum everybody welcome to this live stream we are going to be doing a live q&a

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For everything Dow history evolution

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and anything relevant so Adnan how's your week? hamdulillah as dynamic as ever. So

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you came from Africa, you came to UK and Buxton, now you're going to Spain tomorrow, Inshallah, no rest, no rest for the

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baby as long as we're doing something with life. Okay, so I think we should get some participants, we request that people keep their questions as short as possible. And we will try to keep our answers as short as possible, so that we can take as many questions as possible. And I think we should give priority to non Muslims. Absolutely. If there are any non Muslims who have questions. We'll take them on inshallah. Okay. Okay. Excellent. So first question, we'll go to brother Abdullah Hamid, Osama lako.

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Abdul Hamid, we cannot hear you brother.

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No sound let's go to brother Hassan, Abdullah, a scenario Army Corps law.

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Why

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are you brother?

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Great to see you guys again. And I'll register not take too much of your time. I'll just click on to my question for non machine please. So the thing is that I learned as you have seen your mobile history lecture. And you had mentioned about Turkey slaves being bordered on Central Asia trade and military arts, and become so good that they become like generals and kings. Think is that what are these people? Like? Did they accept Islam or not over the forcefully converted? That's my question. And the same question for the Deaf Shermie system as well for them, which happened in the Ottomans. So please answer them when you can. Thank you. Okay, you asked two questions. And

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a lot of these people who were bought from Central Asia and slave markets, were actually Muslim already. And then they accepted Islam later on when they came into the custody of Muslims. They realized that Islam is

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a good faith, or at least better than the system, they will follow the following previously, so many of them accepted Islam. Actually, we don't have any examples of any of these Turkish or Turkic Turkic slaves, who did not accept Islam. And in fact, some of them, they became the biggest defenders of Islam. Not only that they accepted Islam. They became some of the biggest defenders of Islam. And we have examples. Like sayfudine Potter's who fought the Mongols, who was a Turkic slave

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who came from Central Asia. Then we have Baybars Sultan Baybars, who was also a Turkic slave. Okay, Kipchak Turks, these people are Kipchak Turks, right. He also fought the Crusaders as well as the Mongols. Right? Similar things happened in India. Many of these Turkic slaves bought from slave markets, people like hilltop mesh, and then later on Baldwin, they also been Melbourne, these people, they not only accepted Islam, or they were Muslims from birth.

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They defended Islam against Mongol invasions, and other threats. So it's not only about them accepting Islam is the fact that they defended Islam and Muslims against some of the biggest threats Muslims have ever faced in the history. Right. So I hope that answers your question. The Sharia system. An Ottoman history basically was Sufi tariqa, where they would take children from non Muslim families, and train them in military arts as well as Islamic sciences. So many of these children who came from Christian families accepted Islam, not forcefully, okay, but they accepted. In fact, we have examples where Christian parents would surrender their children to this order for them to be

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raised as Muslims so that they can become powerful military officers. So this was a way of these people climbing, climbing up the ladder, the social ladder, or the social fabric of Ottoman societies or Ottoman communities wherever they existed. So this is how it goes. Okay, so there is a book title janissaries and you can find a lot of these examples in that book. Okay. Thank you

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for answering like, oh, I had a confusion because my tutor said that they were forcibly converting the test. They've shown me system that's why I wanted to confirm no it read read the book.

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janissaries Jenny

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studies just published by socking press, and you will get

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many examples where people are submitting their children to this system for them to be raised as educated, powerful men.

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And many, many Ottoman dignitaries, high ranking officials, they came from

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the Sherman system, and they were part of the Janissary corpse. People like Ibrahim Pasha, who was one of the greatest one of the, in fact even Sinan, architects, xenon, he came from the same system. Okay. And he was if I'm not mistaken, he was born a Christian, right? But he became the greatest architect in Ottoman history. So you know, who built all of these major? Some of them? Some of the biggest monuments in Istanbul you can see today to this day. Okay.

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I just offer one just one last question. I just wanted to confirm the ever since i Okay. Oh my

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god.

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Okay, one question each because we've got loads of people over inshallah next time. All right.

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Okay, everyone, keep it to one question and keep your questions short. And we will try to keep the answers short as well so that we can pick more people in Sharla. So I'm gonna come brother, De Jing. Kiss teaching is

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you did a sound issue. Can you come back in again? When we were done remove him. Wait, wait, give him time. Your sound is not right, brother jinkies.

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The better now? Oh, yeah, we can hear you go ahead. What's your question?

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Okay, I just want to I am to Turkish and just

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just fast I am very happy to know you. And I just want to ask you about Sufism. Because I left Sufism and Hamdulillah I saw a lot of Turkish people are practicing Sufis and practicing terracotta and it never felt like this is something the Prophet did. So I would very happy if you could explain about the Sufism because I have learned so many and I read him for hobbies and I'm reading a slap ism, but I don't know.

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It feels more closer to my heart, but I want your advice if you can give me about things. Okay, again, I'll keep it very short. Although this this topic is very big topic. I will keep my personal advice short, that anything that doesn't fit the life of the prophet or his method or his teachings, then that cannot be regarded strictly speaking Islamic. Okay? So Sufi ism as we know it today is not monolithic, or it's not homogeneous. It has many forms, many types, different types, some types of Sharia compliant, other types are completely lost. Some are even involved in outright sherek they worship literally worship or pray to people are things other than Allah. Right. So Sufi ism cannot

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be put in one basket. Okay, because a lot of things about Sufism, or what Sufis do, generally speaking, are Sharia compliant, they occur remembrance of Allah, contemplation, spirit, spiritual development of a human being. These are things that we can find in the Quran and the Sunnah, okay, the Quran is directly behind such ideas, okay, for example, the skeleton knifes, which is like, cleansing of the soul, right? This is part of the Quran is part of who is learned from the Prophet's life. But there are other things people may be doing like dancing, singing, jumping up and down, bowing to human beings, things like that they are not Sharia compliant, they are not from the

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Prophet, they are not from Islam, they could be something else, but they're not from Islam. So there is a basic principle, and that is to look at an action and see if the prophet thought it, he did it or he agreed with it. If these things cannot be found in an action, and that action for who arrived on, the Prophet said such an action is rejected. It is not our way. It is something else. That's it. So I think that answers your question. Yes, sir. We will thank you very much. And I will just add one thing I agree with you and all the Turkish people I've seen going in Turkey, they're praying to a blue color Jade on iStockphoto LA and they are asking help from him. I mean, yes, he was guided

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person but you should not pray. You know, and if you've never felt them, thank you. It's really

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like

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Step.

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Yeah.

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No worries. No, you're welcome. Jeff aplicado Jelani Rahmatullah Allah Himself was begging Allah for mercy for blessings. He was himself in fear of Allah. He himself was a slave of Allah. Okay. Anyone asking Jakob Lucara Jelani for blessings or for anything else is simply removing Allah from the picture and replacing Allah with Sheikh Abdul Qadir Jilani checkup. Lukather Jelani is free from this just as Jesus is free and just as Oliver, Natalia Rhodiola. One is free of the actions of people who pray to him or call upon him. Why would we pray the shekel to Calgary Gilani? I mean, logically speaking, why would we pray to shake up look Audrey Gilani when we have bigger people than

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him? When we have bigger people than him? Why don't we pray to the Sahaba Why don't we pray to the four Imams okay shake up to cause Gilani Ramadan Lai la May Allah give him Jana, who was, as we know from his history was a great man a great mistake. He himself was a follower of Imam Ahmed been humble. He was humbly so why don't we follow the teacher he was following Mr. Muhammad been humble go and read Mr. McMahon's life anyone who reads it carefully reads about it. You will see that a lot of the things people are doing in the name of Chicago college Jelani, he would disown those things inside. Right. Thank you. Thank you very much for your time. We'll move on to the next person. Okay.

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Okay, who can we go to very quickly so that I can take more and more questions. Right, so, okay, there we go.

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Okay, one second. I don't know how to do this.

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Salam aleikum? Wa Rahmatullah are this

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philosophy? Yes, sir. Okay, go ahead. Sir. My question is to brother sobu. If he is dear brothers who is not here? So I will ask question to you then. Sir. We take the history of Islam through testimony, I think testimony is

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epistemic source, as far as I'm concerned. Yeah. So what is the criteria? I mean, how Western

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philosophers of history reacted to this subject is back, I'll answer your question very quickly. The criteria is found in the books of Hadith. Okay. We have a very big science dealing with our epistemology, and it is called Elmo, Hadith, Elmer Hadith, or the knowledge of Hadith. or it's also called Mr. Elmer regional knowledge of men, people who are transmitting our knowledge to us, people who are bearing testimonies, we scrutinize them, we check them out, and we see whether they are trustworthy or not. So it's a huge science that cannot be explained in one short answer like this, okay. But it is based upon very powerful sources. You can read a book by Jonathan St. Brown, it is

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titled Hadith. The legacy of the Prophet is a good introduction to the Hadith literature. Okay.

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But the support is here now you can Okay, just like Allah. Yeah.

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My question is that some people, especially some atheists are claiming that quantum physics defied the axioms of logic, like laws of logic, identity, contradiction, non contradiction and mutually exclusive. How will you react to this? Okay, so they're talking about young Slit Experiment, observation bias and these things correct?

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Yeah, they say that we can we have the probability of finding electrons in two places at the same time. They're not some states. Yeah. So I would say to take any.

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Okay, so before I answer the question, What's the objective behind that? What like, what are they saying once they say this? Well, what they're saying after that

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a person is saying he's also an atheist. He's saying that we, you know, infer causality from empiricism. Oh,

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I get it. So basically, what they're saying is that you can't use the law of causality law of non contradiction law of excluded middle because quantum mechanics has shown us things are crazy. That's what he's saying. Yeah.

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Yeah, they are implying it. Okay. The problem here is, when you look at quantum mechanics, there's main different reputations, Copernican interpretation, many worlds interpretation, whatever it is. The fact is, you can't take those things to challenge deductive logic or laws of logic or these types of things, because this this is empirical science, which is hazy, which is still disputed. So to use that to challenge deduction doesn't make any sense. And it's actually a nuclear option because essentially what they're saying is

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Everything breaks down and is hazy. So if they do press that button affects their worldview as much affects anyone else's worldview. It's a self destruct button is basically saying rationality, causality, laws of logic, everything is going to go out the window. So they're not achieving anything by doing this. And they can't do this. Because, you know, perhaps there's things we don't seem we don't understand, which is why there's so many different interpretations. They can't use quantum mechanics to start talking about predestination or laws of logic or, you know, all these types of things. Do you understand?

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Yeah, actually, they are trying to tackle contingency argument, because there is a Pakistani artist here, who is whenever someone talks to him about contingency he used that laws of logic has been defined by quantum physics. So you can talk about that case, in that case, he all his arguments, for anything logical he makes in his entire life also invalid.

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Yes, it's a good argument, I think against him doesn't make any sense. What he's basically doing is he's undermining rationality.

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Absolutely. So we're gonna have to move on to the next question. So okay, thank you. Does Allah bless your philosophy in depth?

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Okay, so that's gone. Next, we spoke about the beat? No, we didn't pick the brother of eight, or sound like support via number. How are you guys? Doing? Good. How you doing? If you recall, non by I talked to you earlier as well. It's, again, a great pleasure talking to you to one of the greatest scholars of Islam.

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I'm not always like that.

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I have

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a brief question. We are going through a political turmoil here in Pakistan, as you guys might have might also be aware. Do you have any comments about it for the youth of Pakistan?

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And

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I do and and that comment is a very short, straightforward comment. And it's one sentence, the solution for Pakistan is Islam. Full stop, period. There is no the solution. Go right, go left, go east go west. If the agenda of the current political

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entities in Pakistan is not Islam, then they are only following or running towards a mirage mirage in the desert. You know, it looks like water, but there is no water. Okay. So Islam is the solution full stop. Whether we like it or not. We have been absolute Hypocrites. For the last 70 odd years. We have betrayed Jenna. We have betrayed a cabal, we have betrayed all the Founding Fathers, we have betrayed people like my own ancestors who gave the blood and sweat for this country who wanted Muslims to have freedom in the subcontinent to pray to practice Islam. Every single person who sacrificed for Pakistan for a separate homeland so that Islam is protected, so that Islam as a faith

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is practiced Islam as an ideology is applied. We have betrayed all of them. We are a bunch of traitors and hypocrites. We're not serious.

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As a nation, I'm talking about as a nation as a people. Okay? We're not serious about our future. When we become serious, then the solution is Islam. There is no other solution, full stop, period. That's my comment, went on for longer, and went on longer than I wanted to be. Wait, thank you so much. You're welcome. You're welcome. So let's try and have the questions about history and science and God's existence and Christianity in particular, or anything else. Political type questions are, you know, you go to political theorists for anybody who's spoken, I'm going to just remove them from the studio because more people are trying to enter these folks whose brother right yeah, we spoken

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to that brother. Okay. And let's go to brother, abuser, abuser, is the Zamani.

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Okay, so my question is that

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Allah created the whole universe for humans to worship him. Like, that's the main purpose. Yes.

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Then why did he take billions and billions of years for then make then make human? Like?

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Just a question. Okay. Why did he create human being instead? Because that was the main purpose. That question arrived in our mind. Okay, and also that, why is the universe so big? If the only purpose is for humans to worship in the full big of universe? Yeah. So, the first point is,

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whenever you put forward a question, if the question Can

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From an assumption which is false, then the question itself is going to be false. So the universe

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was created for humans to worship God does not. That's an assumption. That's not in Islam.

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We believe the whole universe is worshiping God, including rocks, and

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Cyrus and Pluto and all these things. And they've been worshipping Allah since the beginning of creation, and the beginning of the universe 13 point 7 billion years ago, whatever that assumption is wrong. Secondly,

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for us, a billion years is a billion years for Allah is confiable. For Allah, it's, it's Allah does whatever He wills. So Allah's Will was that he bought humans about a certain time. Now, if the atheist comes up with this question, what they're basically saying is why didn't Allah just create humans from the first time is equal to one, right? I mean, what within the first second or something right? That doesn't make any sense. To be a contention. All it simply is, is wise Allah, what they're basically saying is why does Allah choose when to do things? And Allah says He does what He wills and tell you.

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You can't hear me.

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Can you hear me? No?

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You can't hear me.

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Can you hear us?

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Yes, we can. Yes. No, again, no. Again, no. Yes. What I'm basically saying is not the is not the case. It's frozen, is

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it's not the case that God created the universe just for us. Right to worship Him from the beginning. That's not the case. The second case is because the Quran to just to add to that the Quran, specifically states or MA, up to Elgin, Collins OLALIA balloon, Allah specifically talks about men and jinn. Why did Allah create men and jinn and Allah doesn't negate the fact that others have also been created for the same purpose, okay? Or the creation of Allah has also been created for the same purpose. But Allah is specifically focusing on managin because these two beings have intellects. They have intellectual others, other creation of Allah doesn't have intellects

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necessarily or not the same intellectual ability as humans and gents, yeah. Okay. This is about why is the universal what so wide and es endless. Now, the the way that atheists usually put this Christopher Hitchens and others put it is

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the universe is so big, humans only inhibit a small part of it. Therefore, the rest of the universities is a waste and God is not wasteful. Therefore, you know, Islam doesn't say that. In fact, Islam says, far more than what scientists are saying, you know, you I'm sure you've heard, everything has been created with the purpose, every note of it, not only everything has been created with a purpose, but the universe is far bigger, far bigger than what scientists believe it to be. That's what Islam says. You must have heard the Hadith or processor lemma, he spoke about the ring within the ring within the ring. And

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so the universe is far bigger than humans can even fathom.

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There's nothing wrong with that. That just shows God's majesty. There's nothing in Islam, which says every corner of the universe is supposed to be inhabited by humans. So again, what atheists have done, they've made a false assumption. And using the false assumption, they made a false argument. As soon as soon as you know, the purpose of the huge universe is to show God's majesty, what is the wisdom behind it? That's the question. It always is by coincidence.

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It looks like it's by coincidence. Because why would an all wise God do that? That's the question, you know, but that wasn't given to me. Yet that that doesn't make any sense. What makes you think that if the universe is white, okay, if the universe was filled with human beings in every corner, would that would that mean that it's not wasteful?

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Yes, different. Right now is the Kelly's new verse, Department of dark matter and all these things. That's the question, Why did Allah do it? Okay, so the thing is, Allah has given us the answer to some certain things, not given us the answer to one certain things, but Allah said, He does what He wills and Allah says, Everything worships him.

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We can't We can't accept the atheist assumption. If we don't understand what something is, therefore, therefore it is wasteful. That's what they're assuming. But that's an assumption. And using that assumption, they're making an argument. So what we're saying is you can't have the assumption you can't have the argument.

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And it's

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Allah's Prophet. The Prophet SAW Allah mentions universe to be far bigger, far greater than humans can even fathom. But the prophets of salaam doesn't present that as a theological obstacle. He just explains. That's the state of reality.

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At it's a complete assumption that the whole universe needs to have human beings in it in order for it to be actually productive or not wasteful. Does that make sense? Yeah.

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These are assumptions, brother. Yes. Yes. You're saying, Oh, why is the universe so big human beings don't live in that universe, that Islam never sees the vastness of the universe as anything except a point towards Allah's greatness. Adnan? I don't know the exact wording of the Hadith but can you go over the ring within the ring within the ring?

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Example of unity.

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Yeah, so Allah,

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Allah's Messenger met tells us Do you know, I'll tell you something, I'll tell you what this argument originated the genesis of this argument.

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The genesis of this argument goes back to we could say, post Renaissance between Christian theologians and atheist philosophers, Christian theologians, some of them believed that the whole universe was created for man and the universe that

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the unit okay all answered the question, you can listen to this afterward. Because there's a sound issues. The universe is small, the Earth is at the center. As soon as they discovered the Universe is big. It was a theological challenge for Christianity. Henceforth, this argument came forward. However, Islam from the onset has said the universe is far bigger than scientists can ever imagine. Yes. So it's never been a theological problem for us. And this is another instance of

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white washing of your one second white washing of a European history where they take their theological ballet baggage, and they throw it on the Muslim world. It's never a theological problem. In fact, in the Quran, this is an argument for the power of Allah. Allah says in the Quran, that do you not see the heavens how Allah created them, okay? Allah also says in the Quran, all mankind and jinn penetrate the heavens, if you can, you will not accept by our permission. So Allah is using the vastness, the expanse of the universe as an argument in his favor. He is Allah is telling us in the Quran, that Allah is powerful because of the expanse of the universe. Allah is big, Allah is huge.

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Allah deserves to be worshipped because because of the the expansion of the universe and how big it is, how huge it is, right? So Allah points to the solar system then Allah points to the creation of the heavens of the earth. And then Allah also tells us all of this was not created without purpose or in vain. Okay, well ma ha ha Botha Allah says in the Quran that man when when when we see this and we say that this was not created in vain, okay, so we're gonna have to move on Inshallah, thank you so much for your question, Abuja and welcome back another time, we're gonna have to move on.

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And I think Cebu we have to stick to our plan to keep our answers short. Absolutely. Inshallah.

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Again, oh, you remember me? Okay, good.

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Because I have a similar question.

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So, I heard this quote from my mother and relatives. And I, this came up because I noticed that people wouldn't marry into churches, they wouldn't marry into people.

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And one of my relatives recently got married. And family had an issue that we were from Africa. And I don't know why but my mom told me the quote column boo, column porini, both maturity and our know what does this mean? Where does this originally from Brother bears out? Okay, this is a conversation we can have another time. You know, most people don't even know where church is or what a turkey is. Right. So this is a discussion to be had between us.

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Individually, individually and people who actually come from that region are very small culture between ourselves insha Allah Tala. Okay.

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Another question very quickly. So, do you know anything about the origins of the sheiks diecast? No, no, no, I Okay, because they claiming they're from Abu Bakr Siddiq. So that's what I was asking good for them and no problem. I mean, we have no problem as long as they can prove it with the chain. There is no proof because I'm trying to do like, proof and then if there is no proof, then there is no proof then we should never claim it. We should say okay, this is what we've been told by our ancestors. And Allah knows best insha Allah.

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Allah tells us in the Quran, the best of you are those who are con people who are the most God conscious who are most most obedient to Allah. Yeah, they're the best inshallah. Hello. Thank you so much. I want to know when you finally worked out use this thing. Yeah, I think so. Our necessity. Okay. Abdullah Z.

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You can you can ask your question and like Adnan Pei said, please keep your questions short but also relevant to everybody.

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Like for example, the question about what study politics or the one about this ethnic group is not relevant to the dowel everybody, right? Yes, brother Abdullah the here A salaam alaikum Welcome son brother. Can you recommend me some good books on organism atheism, secularism, etc, besides the divine reality and of course the Quran, etc. So there's lots and lots of books I would recommend. They're one of the hypotheses. So, God God hypothesis Return Of The Gods excellent book. That is an excellent, excellent that's the number one book to talk about here for that. The return of the god hypothesis by Stephen Meyer. Philip Johnson's Darwin on trial.

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David stoves Darwinian fairy tales.

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Jerry folders, what Darwin got wrong, and Ellis Ellis Democrat Alister McGrath, Alister McGrath highlight of atheism, that's a very good one. Yeah.

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I've got I'm just looking at my shelf, which other ones? There's actually a lot of very good book. Michael B's books are very good. But the old the old, Michael, Michael B's books are very technical. And they're very, very much written for people who have good knowledge of science. Actually, you made a very good point. If it's technical, then ignore the books we've said except for going on trial, the return of the god hypothesis. And another book, I just saw Icons of Evolution. That's, that's very iconic. The Evolution is amazing by Jonathan wells.

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And we can do a separate program on this. Talking about book. I think I should do a book recommendation on this topic. Okay. Hello. So let's move on the Altenburg 16. That's a good one as well. Okay. Can I ask you a question, please? That would be cheating.

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But that's irrelevant. Just just ask one question. Yeah, that'd be better because

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interview with Mufti Tariq Masood, you said that you you are writing or you will be writing a book on the subject. So how can we expect or did you start? Thank you. I've been writing on and off for a couple of years now. And the thing with me is I think I have the same problem as maybe Adnan. Where is it's perfectionism. Personally. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Like you keep thinking oh, I need to do this. No, I need to do that. No, I need to do this and you're doing nothing. You will you end up doing basically nothing for quite a long time. I don't want to commit to a date. But insha Allah is coming. On the show that's coming. It's probably going to be after Ramadan sometime. Okay, let's

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move on. Inshallah. Dakka Dakka. Brother. Allah bless you. Sorry, come

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to Shaw hub. Go. Second one. That one.

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Okay, so I'm gonna come your life. Welcome, Salam.

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So my My question is about the argument of how we know the language and the structure of the Quran itself is America as sort of the argument used by the ease? You know, how are people in the past during the time of the prophets, Allah Salam used to convert purely upon hearing the Quran being recited the verses? So we know we've got quite a large number of Arab Christians now I'm just curious as it begs the question, what, what arguments do they come up with, in terms of who the author of the Quran is, given, they're close to the language and they, they're probably the best place to understand that part of the miracle of the Quran. A lot of the time this argument is

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actually misunderstood and misrepresented even by Muslims. Okay, so you have to understand, linguistic miracle of the Quran is not just the language itself, but the content put together with the language. And the way it rhymes, okay, and it doesn't fit into any of the current Arabic political models. This is what makes the Quranic language so special. So not only the words, not only the language, not only the rhyming, but the content. The powerful

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message of the Quran is also part of that miracle. Okay, this is the point. So it's a comprehensive challenge. It's not just the linguistic challenge is not just to produce something like it linguistically necessarily, but it's the it's the comprehensive message of the Quran. Allah is basically challenging as I understand it, and I can be wrong in this but I have understood it this way that Allah is challenging humanity to produce a text like it that is read like this and does things like it. Okay. What the Quran did to society is the Quran changed the Arabs beyond recognition. So when it comes to the Arab Christians listen to the Quran or other Arabs who don't

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believe in Islam. I mean, we have bigger examples from the time of the Prophet SAW Selim himself His own uncle, having known the Arabic language did not accept Islam

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Um, so what's the big deal? The Quran tells us that guidance comes from Allah, there is no guarantee that you will hear the Quran and get impressed by it and then and believe it as well or believe in it as well. Okay, so just to add one thing and I'm sorry to interject, basically,

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the Arabs of today have no

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justification for to even speak on like the Christian Coptic Arabic Arabs to speak on the linguistic aspects of the Quran because they don't speak the original language. The Arabic is so far from the original fossa that it's Who are they to? You know, yeah, before they start talking about the Quran and the Arabic language of the Quran, they need to start looking into the Bible more carefully and then inshallah they won't finish with the Bible for the entirety of their life before they even get the chance to talk about the Quran. There are so many blunders and issues in the Bible, the text of the Bible, I don't know why the Christians even talk about the Quran. I don't understand. Where is

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the consistency, right? Why would you attack a book, especially it's like, you know, throwing stones at others when you live in glass houses. So it's one of those things, we'll move on. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for your question. Allah bless you.

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Okay, next one. Let's take questions quickly. So the rest you worked out how to use this

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necessity is the mother of invention. Really Tauheed Rohan. For either ammonia in front of the Taj Mahal?

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Allah, Allah Alaikum Islam from Bangladesh but I cannot but I cannot hear clearly this I am making my caution.

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One Bangladeshi guy possibly leaves in UK

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he's mentioning that Quran is not

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from Allah to mama Salah salaam Radha it is written by so many people. And he is also

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may say telling us that

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more masala Rama, Rocco Morris, MN RB, they have no historical

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background or proof. They were there. To what what can you tell on that? We usually don't respond to questions like this because they are very, very people who pose these questions haven't really studied the history of Islam more carefully. And if they have and they still ask this.

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Yeah, yeah, it is more passive. Islam is in London, and he's making so many confusion among Bangladeshi guys. Because he ailing everything in Bangalore. I don't know whether he tells this is

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his opinion. This is why we we need more knowledgeable Bangladeshi brothers who speak Bengali well, and they need to challenge him with challenge anyone for that matter who comes up with things like this. And some of these things are very

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ignorant things based upon ignorance and not knowledge as such. So we tend to ignore people like this and they waste a lot of our time. So we don't like to use any robust challenge. Any any good challenge any any time deserving or attention deserving challenge. Absolutely. We'll take it up. No problem. Okay.

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Oh, okay.

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Thank you very much. Allah bless you. Okay, so we go forward to Ali moideen. Also, who's who's been waiting first. You see, Joe

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uses your summary.

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Jason, Jason.

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Jason, Jason your life?

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Yes. Go ahead. Ask your question, please. And I had a conversation with a Jewish friend of mine. And he told me that if the Quran if Prophet Muhammad is following the tradition of Musa Ibrahim, those guys, those are those other prophets. He told me why is it that we don't have you know, descriptions of Jahannam Jana clearly mentioned in the Old Testament, and why is that the Quran is missing vividly. You know, he's told me that Muhammad Mehta might have invented because those other prophets they do not talk about, you know, Hellfire paradise, like slimes talking about it. Okay, that's a very good question. So, there are two ways to respond to this question. Firstly, how do we know that

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we even have the entire teachings of those, those prophets? None of the Jews or none of the Christians will ever claim that they have the original teachings of Moses, Jesus and other prophets of the Old Testament, right? They will not claim that because they know they don't have them number one, number two, okay.

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We we do have a

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promise of reward and promise of punishment from God. In the Old Testament and the New Testament, we have that. So, what do we do with that? You are the DJ

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isn't there? The absolutely right, the details of Jana and Johanna are not there. But then what is salvation? What is salvation? Right? The promise of there is a promise promise from God, of salvation, of success of happiness. Okay? So this is why they need to, they need to understand this, that the prophets what they taught, they don't have it completely. They are missing a lot of the things Jesus and prophets before him what they taught. And at the same time, we do have remnants and indications in the current text of the Bible as altered as corrupted as it is, we still have indications of punishment and reward from God. I hope that answers the question. We're gonna have to

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move on. Jason Jason. Thanks. Okay.

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Okay.

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Let's go to

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Okay, this one Yep.

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Julia Brockman of the Rahim sorry, when it comes to them. Go ahead. Yeah. So where does the term like Asher V or ASHRAE? come about? Like, in what point in the history of Islam does that really start? Third and fourth century? Okay. And out in the fourth century, so like, can you describe what that means? Critically?

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Yeah, the thing is, brother, this is like a very generic question. We're trying to answer all the questions.

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We can give quick quick answers and move. Yeah. The name comes from Abu Musa luxury.

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Will Hassan a luxury sorry about Hassan Al Ashari, who was a scholar, and the name are the ideas attributed to him even though it is claimed that before he passed away around the lolly, he does own some of his ideas he himself had propagated, and he believed in the methodology and the beliefs of Muhammad been humble.

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Okay, so we're gonna

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Okay, thank you very much.

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Okay.

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So

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mod Samadhi come, right. Salaam How are you guys doing? Fine, thank you so much. Go ahead.

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This is a question for you rather Adnan. So in your experience in your research that you've done with Sonic history and the political history of Islam overall. And while the Islamic civilization, what do you think, is

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the

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ideal Islamic

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government? Who do you think like is a democracy or there's must be a kingship or a monarchy or what is it?

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Okay, an ideal Islamic

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domain or an ideal Islamic country would be ruled by Islam as close as possible, as close as possible. There is no perfection. We haven't had any perfect, ideal Islamic domain in the entire history of Islam. So the struggle is to get as close as possible to Islam and the teachings of the Prophet sallallahu sallam, the Quran and the Sunnah, what we call the Quran and the Sunnah. So get as close as possible to that, and that's the idea we follow. Okay, I hope that answers your question, inshallah.

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Thank you. Thank you. Okay. So just want to highlight that there was no perfection, there was no perfection in the history of Islam, none of the states from the umaid

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dynasty to all the way up to the Mughals and even those who came later, there is no perfection, there is no perfection. So the struggle is to get as close to Islam as possible.

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Okay, Khan foundry comm.

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con, con your life, con, I'm gonna count to three. And if you don't respond, you're gone. As long as they can con 123 on is gone.

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Okay, Abdul, Hamid llamada de la Hamid. While I can sit on brother's overhead, please. I wanted to ask support about this actually possible. So

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it was about the epistemological status of Darwinism because there was at some point, I'm not sure correct me if I'm wrong, that you said it could be an instrumentally useful theory, but I want to challenge that and say, such observations like orphan structures and irreducibly complex structures as well to challenge gradualism and Darwinism as well. Therefore, we could say that Darwinism is not instrumentally useful. What do you say?

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Michela?

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Actually, I've never heard that before.

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So I'm going to try and give an answer but that's actually a really brilliant observation. Mashallah.

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Okay, so let me just have my first sort of dig a,

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generally, an instrumental useful theory can still have

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incorrect predictions and incorrect inferences and incorrect data. So for example, Newtonian theory is incorrect in its assumption about time and space, but it's still instrumentally useful. So in instrumentally, useful theory doesn't have to be entirely, you know, fitting the data so you can have some anomalies. However, there's a threshold obviously, if there's things like you said, gradualism, which is completely false is being assumed then that aspect of the theory how is it going to be instrumental useful when gradualism is not not really seen in the fossil record? It may be useful in putting together other phylogenies using DNA, but with the fossil record, it wouldn't

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really make any sense. So I would say you have an argument there.

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However, at the same time,

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if we don't challenge methodological naturalism, and we stick to intelligence, so if we if we stick to

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just that naturalistic worldview, in a way, there is no other ballgame game to be played except to a Darwinism because Darwinism is the only game in town if naturalism is accepted to be the default settings in science. So from that perspective, is the only instrumentally useful thing you can do. So that's another way of thinking about it, but it's a very good question. I need to think about it more.

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You're muted, so you're not I can't hear what you're saying.

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For the Abdulhamid you muted and you unmuted yourself then you muted yourself again?

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When do you what do you think about it? I want to hear your thoughts because it's a very novel question you've asked

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seem to be having some audio issues

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brought up the Hamid let me see if you can type in the private chat

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No, there you go. You're unmuted now.

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Go ahead and speak brother. Did you hear my answer?

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Hello.

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Can you guys in the chat let me know if you can hear him because I can't hear him.

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And anybody in the chat

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No, you can't hear him. Okay, it's a brother Abdulhamid I'm gonna remove you.

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As you back again. Can you try and speak now?

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Maybe if you leave the studio and come back, then we'll try. But Dakka Dakka is a very good question. He's gonna say that's why I live I love doing these streams. You guys ask very good questions. And it keeps me going. Alright,

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next let's go to

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use of oh,

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oh, Joe. Oh, Jake.

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Oh, US long Alico Tula he wabarakatuh

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right. So my question is this as a lay man, reverse Muslim.

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Just reading on a key they're studying the key they're touching on the subject of Tawheed

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I've already come to a crossroad either I don't know what it is. I'm praying to Allah I'm making dua and the crossroad is between a shoddy and untidy

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and that's my crossroads. So what kind of advice can you give me? Should I should I look deep into these two?

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I did different sects, or how does this work? I mean, just using simple and basic advice, follow what the Prophet and his companions followed full storm. Okay, now it's very easy. It and I'm sure you're you're a very intelligent guy. Okay. Follow what the Prophet and his companions were following what they were doing. There is plenty of evidence and information available on their life.

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If I follow them, and if you understand my answer, you will get the answer to your question for the use of okay, but doesn't follow them claim that as well. Well, this is this is why I'm saying you are, you seem to be a highly intelligent person.

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You go you go and find out what I'm talking about.

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Whatever came later, was added later, whatever was claimed later, is not necessarily the way of the Prophet in his companions. Full stop theory. Okay. Okay. In particular, I'm talking about beliefs. Beliefs. Okay. Not

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really the Yeah, the toe heed how it was understood. And explained. The extras. The extras are not necessarily there's that Okay. Okay. Okay.

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You're welcome. Sorry.

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Okay, so if you've already asked your questions, please if you could leave the studio so we can get some new people in. Lots of people are trying to enter Oh my God, should we go with him?

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So Molly Kumar, who live baraka to Allah Go ahead.

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I have discussion for a long time but don't I apologize if I if I hurt some feelings from our people by saying this but the question I have for a long time What's What's your opinion about image making images about living beings?

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And I had another question but I forget Okay, the professor solemn forbade drawing images of living beings drawing with hand, what we call a sweet, okay, which is drawing with hand, this is not necessarily taking a picture of a living being from the camera because you're capturing a reality which Allah has created, right? But when you are drawing with your own hand, you're creating a reality of your own. Okay, which is what the prophet Saddam did not agree with and forbade that's understand, but if you I, I was listening, in forehand, and my English is not so good. I'm from Belgium. So I'm sorry. But my second question I remember him did

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my second question was die audio is more

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is more effective? No, because if you image yourself people may

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may, how do you say it may

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adore you may may or may depend upon you, you know, but they want to know everything about you what you say and not about what Allah says. Because I find that when people do die, I look many, many dollar videos and you can maybe search I look many of you guys, and I find that I want to go closer to Allah and I want to die on myself but I don't want to image myself because I feel it's it's against what God wants me to do. You know, I want people to listen to what God says. Okay, and who How are you going to listen to that someone will have to talk to you right? Yeah, whether you do it a lot to my friends people family. Yeah, so you watch videos of people who are talking about Allah

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and reminding i Listen mostly I listen. I don't try to watch yet. But watching sometimes it's good because you're watching sometimes it's good but I feel it's more effective. I had just listened like the old days the old days they didn't have a camera you know, everyone is different and not everyone is amarela dad Alhamdulillah there are there are others in the world who prefer to watch a video and see the expressions of the person was talking. So no problem inshallah there's nothing wrong with that. Okay, so this is your personal preference. You keep your personal preference, but we're watching videos and they want to learn that way. No problem with that. Okay. Okay, okay. Um, the

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chakra baclofen?

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Sorry come Speaker's Corner Islamic Dawa. Salam o alaikum. to you both. Simple question why face simple, straightforward. In relation to Islam,

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the evolution of animals? Is it compatible with Islam?

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There's, as far as I know, there is nothing in Islam that disagrees with micro evolution. Micro evolution, okay. small, minor changes over time, within animal within animals, but macro evolution, fish walking out of water and turning into another specie.

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Not only Islam doesn't say anything about it, but there is nothing in science. I mean, scientifically, they tried to argue, but when we look at the fossil record, there is nothing Oh

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On macro evolution, am I right in saying that? Yeah, I mean, a species turning into another species. Yeah, sort of macro evolution is massively controversial scientifically but like Adnan VI said, it doesn't contradict Islam, even if it happened

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very quickly with it, would there be in fight silence in relation to macro? I'm just satisfied with

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the clarification.

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With it being in relation to macro evolution, with there being supposed to silence on the matter, can someone still hold that interpretation?

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Macro evolution, especially, why would you hold them? No, no. Why would you hold that opinion and try to make it Islamic when it's controversial? Scientifically? That's what he's asking. He's no, he I think he said, I think the brothers saying something else. Islamically Is it okay to have that opinion? That's what he's asking. Correct? Can you just repeat what you said? Yeah, so I don't hold that opinion.

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Okay, so I'm just trying to find out how to address that type of question. So if macro evolution, Islam is silent on macro evolution, can a Muslim still hold legitimately hold that opinion?

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And I said, Why would you make Islam speak on something that Islam has hasn't spoken on? The Quran hasn't spoken on? Yeah, especially especially when it is a controversial matter, even scientifically, even. Even scientists themselves are not exactly clear on the matter, right. Why would you make that matter and Islamic matter when science itself is indecisive

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or classical? Thank you for the clarification. You're welcome.

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Okay, today's ma

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Salam aleikum wa rahmatullah wa barakato.

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I was just wondering, so essentially, I'm very interested in history, and Islamic history specifically. And of course, as Adnan knows himself.

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History is a very important part of Islam. And one of the aspects that I don't understand is the Equinus suffer. So I was just wondering if you could tell us about it, if it

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is one fluffer. We're a group of people who were pure rationalists, who gave precedents to rationality, human rationality over revelation, or they would study revelation, based upon human rationality.

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And basically, they were rationalist. And they were highly influenced by Hellenic thought, or Greek philosophy that had been introduced into Baghdad in the ninth century, due to the patronage of Alma moon, one of the caliphs, who was a more thoroughly who was also a rationalist. And so was his son, or his successor and the next successor. So this was basically a group of rationalists a corner sofa. So would you say state that their position was not Islamic to begin with?

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No, they studied Islam, through the lens of rationality, and even that with Greek Hellenism, of sort of Greek Hellenic thought, Hellenic influences Greek philosophy, or Aristotelian logic was being used to study Islam, which is incorrect. So if you you're putting on a lens to study a civilization or study a system, by using a lens that doesn't really fit into that system, it doesn't make sense. It doesn't work. That's why they were not entirely Islamic. I don't think so. No, they were not necessarily orthodox. Islamically speaking in fact, some people claim they were atheists, they were a bunch of atheists. They didn't even believe in God, or Islamic or the god of Islam. There could be

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deist or something like that. Okay. Okay, fantastic. Does Aqua okay, no worries. You're welcome.

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Okay, so we were going Abbas

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was a boss sounds like boss.

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Okay, boss.

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So I'm gonna

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go ahead. Alright, brother. Yeah, brother, I just question is, you just answer another better question about which to follow, actually we segue to follow so you say follow the teaching of Quran and Sunnah. So my question is about that. That verse Quran said, a brother one second sorry, this was the same thing was happening when I was doing lives with Muhammad hijab and now same things happening with a non there's a lot of people who are very interested in asking questions in regards to the Dawa, and history and all this stuff. And we just keep getting into Aqeedah questions, and it took up a lot of time in the previous live streams and this live stream is also please ask a

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question related to other topic.

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It's not this topic, please.

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Okay, can I ask about maybe another question about the Hadees? Like,

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okay, this was our related Yes, go ahead, please.

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Go ahead. Hello, boss.

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Did you get my question? No, we didn't. We didn't hear anything.

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Hello, brother. Can you hear me? Yes. Go ahead. repeat your question, please.

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Hello, can you hear me? Okay. Your internet is messing up.

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Can you repeat your questions? Can you hear me? Yes, we can hear you. Can you repeat your question?

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Okay, we're gonna have to move on. Sorry. Mammography. phosphoricum.

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You're muted. You're muted. You're muted. Did we speak down? Like can you hear me last week? I don't remember. Yes, yes, yes. Yes. Yeah, we did. Good. We How are you doing? Brother? Good. Having a very good, very good. My question is to both of you

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feel like a lot of times when I'm talking to my friends, sometimes we're atheists or Hindu or basically non monotheistic. I feel like I struggle to defend the concept of exclusivity in Islam, right, like only Muslims are gonna go to gender. Basically, I feel like that concept out of everything is very hard to defend that because I'm not knowledgeable. So I was wondering, how do you guys defend it?

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That only Muslims are going to Jannah?

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Yes. Unless I mean, maybe there's a difference of opinion? I'm not sure.

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So so we claim that anyone who having understood the Prophet of Islam Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu Sallam does not believe in Him, will not go to Jana. That's a more, there's a more

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I would say that's a better way of putting it okay. Of course we believe that one has to believe in Allah and His messengers, and in particular the last messenger, the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him SallAllahu Sallam if you having an understood the prophets message, having received it, having heard the message and having understood it, rejected, then you're going to hellfire.

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Because we believe we believe any fair person who is fair, who is just and receives the message of Islam uncorrupted. Okay, in its pure form, and understands it properly and then rejects it cannot be a fair person.

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Yes, but I mean, I think a lot of people, for example, think that if you believe in one God, and you do good, and you try your hardest to do good that that's good enough. And the concept that for them the concept that that is not enough, like it's really Yeah, II any they think that Islam becomes like, kind of like, forcing you to convert through fear, like, you know, if you're not that if you're not Muslim, you're not going to and if it's true, yeah, be it. If it's true, and which which we believe that it is true, then be it fear of the truth is not not not actually fear. It's fear of one's own failures. I mean, people sometimes lack confidence, they lack information. They don't have

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they have cultural or, you know, family attachments, let's say, okay, they don't want to change the lifestyle. All sorts of things caused this fear. It's not the fear of the truth. It's not the fear of Islam. It's the fear of change. A lot of the people who hear about Islam, they understand Islam, they know Islam is the truth. They just have the fear of change. They don't want to leave the lifestyle behind. They don't want to become Muslim. They don't want to start praying five times a day to start becoming the diligent, diligent Muslims. Yeah. Yeah. One thing I would add to the Brother Mohammed is a lot of this is socialization.

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So this is basically

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you know, a very well known idea within this sort of modern woke liberalism world.

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Something

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anybody claiming, are you going

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okay, anyone claiming exclusivity? Anyone claiming their right others are wrong, anybody claiming it's not good enough just to be a good person. You're not cool. You're not with it. You are going against the grain you're going against the social fabric of society. But the fact is, Islam never comes to submit to the latest fashion Islam comes to actually show what is the right way, even if the only person a lie.

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The only person upon the truth is one person that Ibrahim Al Islam was the only person upon the truth. So the thing is, a lot of this is socialization in the past.

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Nobody would have accepted

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his arguments, say 500 years ago. Is it good enough to be a good person believe in God, and you go to Paradise, no one would accept those things. But today he does that the new Liberal paradigm that was being taught at schools that was being taught in societies, as long as the good person and now you see Muslims, sadly buying into this, I remember seeing a documentary, in which there's this comedian, who's wondering about death, because he's getting very old. And you know, he's, you know, wondering about God and wondering about these things. And as he's walking around the graveyard is a Muslim, who's with him, and he's going to different religions. He's going to Hinduism, going to

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Muslims going to Christianity, going to whatever Buddhists or whatever getting their perspectives, and the Muslim says to him,

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Well,

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words to be effective, as long as you are good person, you'll be fine. No, define good, what's good today, you know, a woman who sleeps with 100 men, but she doesn't steal, is a good person today, a man who, after getting somebody pregnant, abandons abandons the woman doesn't pay on the care, does affairs moves and is basically a fasik. Right? That's considered a stud. Good and bad. Of course, they you know, these are defined in many different ways by Maine, different people. When we say good, we mean good, according to what Allah considers good. And Allah is not unfair to anybody. Nobody will have an excuse on the day of judgment, because everyone will be treated fairly. If

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someone didn't get the message, they'll have an excuse. And Allah already knows that if they got the message, what they would do. So Allah doesn't do injustice to anybody. We have to be as Muslims, truthful about Islam, even if it's at the detriment of losing people who hold on to his voc liberalism idea. There's nothing wrong with just being direct and saying,

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Yeah, Islam says, other than somebody who believes in God and submits to God and believes in the messengers of God, all of them. And if the person receives the message and rejects it, that that person is going to hellfire. Not that that individual, you're saying that you're going to hellfire. You say that? That's the general idea. And the other thing related to this is we're not scared

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of speaking about paradise. Yeah. You know, we tell people God's merciful and Paradise and these things, but Allah uses fear and hope in the Quran. Allah mentions hellfire. Hadith mentioned the punishment of the grave. We have all these different things, right?

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Just think think of a topic like Xena, right? Just Just think of that.

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So on Muslim Twitter, you'll see, you know, someone saying, Oh, they committed Zina, and then somebody else will be like, Oh, Allah forgives all sins and Okay, does someone truly regretful and really sad? But also, there's nothing wrong with someone turning around and

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narrating the Hadith of the processor and where he talks about the people of Zina being in an oven or baking oven at Undo, and then screaming? What Why does no one talk about that? Why does even amongst Muslims and Muslims, everyone's like, Oh, yeah, Allah is Most forgiving. And

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look, if you tell a human being and I'm just gonna say this last point, and very passionate about this, as you can tell, yeah, please, if somebody says if you do action, X, you will get 1000 pounds, get million pounds, whatever. Or if you tell that person, if you don't do this, you will face a violent death or you will, you know, go through pain or cancer or something. The person generally reacts more to fear than to motivation generally as human beings, couch potatoes, zombie scrollers, lazy people, we will react to fear more than they will react to motivation. What is this fear and motivation allows us hope and fear. So we caught in our Dawa, or let's not talk about how fire let's

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not talk about Islam as exclusivity, let's stop pandering to pluralism and perennialism and all this type of nonsense, which so many people do. So many people do. Let's actually just be direct with people either shut your mouth and don't give Dawa. Yeah, if you're gonna give Dawa then be very direct and tell people tell people that actually there's hellfire and Paradise. I just can't believe people open them out. And they say ridiculous things like Yeah, as long as you're good person you know Allah is Most most

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for lenders. Yes, I agree with you. I agree with your point of view. I agree with your point that

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Yeah, I agree with your point where you're saying that we should be completely honest when we're giving Dawa. I think I'm also not talking about like, it's not from the perspective of the woke liberalism. It's kind of like, maybe think of people like, I don't know, Richard Dawkins or Sam Harris. They're, they they believe in objective truth, or objective morality. And goodness, is just that the you know, what, like, from an outsider, when you would sit and tell someone like, Okay, I have the truth, you know, which is Islam. And this is the truth. And if you don't understand it, that means you're just not good enough, or you're not, or you're I mean, I'm not saying we should

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say that, but some people say, Oh, you're dumb enough not to recognize this truth. And I'm just saying, that can come off as very problematic. And I agree that we should consider it but

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I'm just wondering, like, what do you think like that? Yeah. It is a tough one. The fact is, we just have to speak the truth and the consequences of the consequences. You know, people try and create this environment where we can't but we have to.

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We want to finish the Livestream now. Yeah. Yeah, I think so. Because we've been going on for some time now, brother. Just

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refine, please do join us next time. Anybody else we didn't answer. Apologies to Adnan any last. Thank you so much, everyone. Thank you so much for joining us. It's always a pleasure talking to you guys. We're gonna try to do these live

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sessions as often as possible and take your questions, and inshallah we'll try to expand our horizons in terms of asking for the answering questions as well, because you're asking questions about Aqeedah, history, all sorts of things. A lot of these things are intertwined. So we'll try to take more and more questions, Inshallah, in the future and have more variety of speakers and audiences Inshallah, So may Allah bless you all. Thank you so much for listening and staying with us. Slavery