Channel: Adnan Rashid
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on behalf of on behalf of discover Islam, Ireland and South Dublin mcta. I welcome you to this very important event. It is a great honor for all of us that on the invitation of discover Islam. Brother, the non Rashid has come to meet and speak to us
as an underachiever is a historian with a speciality in the history of Islamic civilization, comparative religion and Hades literature.
He has honors degree in history from the University of London and is currently pursuing further studies. He has also gained ijazah in Hadees from a number of scholars. He also takes a keen interest in the study of ancient manuscripts. He has debated many high profile figures in the field of politics, history, and Christian Islamic theology.
He has defended his views in many prestigious universities, including the University of Warsaw in Poland, the American University of Beirut, Lebanon, and the Trinity College Dublin, and numerous other universities across the UK and internationally.
He has also represented Islam and Muslims on a number of reputable media platforms such as the BBC. He is presently serving as a fatigue in a number of London mosques. He is presently conducting an extensive Tafseer course explaining the meaning of the Quran to the wider audiences based upon the work of evening coffee.
Brother anon Rashid also specializes in the Syrah that is the life of Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him.
Brother anon Rashid believes that Islam is a way of life, which promotes modernity in all of your positive manifestations, and provides realistic solutions for all problems facing mankind. The topic of today's talk is strengthening the Muslim community in the West. I believe that the selection of this topic is not without the mushiya of Allah subhana wa Taala. We know that we are in the process of building Lucan Islamic community center, here with the help of Allah subhanho wa Taala. Yes, it is important to build a strong community center with cement and concrete it is much more effective.
tend to build a strong community of loving humans loving and united humans. Now I welcome brother anon Rasheed to to the party.
Thank you very much. In light of manga Rahim al hamdu Lillah wa salatu salam ala rasulillah. But brothers and sisters, dear friends, thank you for inviting me to this
venue, it is always a
great honor for me to attend different venues in Ireland. I was at Trinity College Dublin yesterday, and I talked about
a topic, discussed the topic there.
today, I'll be talking about how to strengthen the Muslim community in the West. There are a number of points I would like to address
to share my thoughts based upon my little experience and knowledge
in the West,
these are things I see a solution
things that come
in due course, things I will discuss in due course.
So what are these things? I want to talk about Muslim
the political domain in the West?
are Muslims taking part in the politics living in the West?
Secondly, I will talk about education. How educated are Muslims
in order to enable themselves to better contribute to Western societies in positive ways?
Number three, the role of media, how active are Muslims in media?
And what are what are
the disadvantages of not getting involved in media?
Number four, I will talk about coordination between Muslims from different backgrounds, from different schools of thought, from different ethnicities living in the West.
Number five, I will be addressing social work, how important it is for Muslims to get involved in social work, doing something for the community,
especially living in the West, if we wish to strengthen ourselves here.
And most importantly, number six, our manners of living.
Are we actually living
according to Islamic principles, are we upholding Islam as a way of life as it should be upheld?
So the first point I would like to address is politics, the importance of Muslim involvement in politics. We have come to the west
to live here.
Many of us came from
different parts of the world for a number of different reasons. Some came to work for few years, work in factories, work in shops, drive taxis, or established businesses with an intention to return home.
So initially, when our elders landed in the West,
if I'm talking about Britain in particular, that's where that's where I come from. I live in London. For the past 20 years old, most I have been in London.
when I came to London,
in the late 90s 1997, to be precise,
I never imagined myself
dying in Britain and being buried in Britain. I didn't think like that.
You know, I didn't want to I mean, not that Britain, dying in Britain is something bad if Allah has written that for me, so be it. Okay. But the question is, would I like to die in Britain and get buried in Britain? Not that it's bad. Many Muslims have died in Britain and there are huge cemeteries full of Muslim graves. If you go to St. London now it it is very difficult to find space
and some of the cemeteries
but when I came in 1997, I wasn't thinking like that, that I will actually die in Britain and live there for the rest of my life. Even
Me, when I came in 1990s, in the back of my head, I was thinking, Okay, I'll spend 10 1520 years, make some money built, build few houses in Pakistan and return, go back to Islam BOD, and live the life.
Not that that intention has changed.
But have I actually worked towards it? No, not really. I haven't worked anything, or I haven't done anything effective in order to fulfill that particular dream, if I had it clearly in my mind, but I never thought clearly whether I will actually die in Britain.
Likewise, in the 60s, when our elders
came to Britain,
in the 60s, mainly, or some came in the 70s.
There was a huge diaspora, you know,
is like, like an exodus of people from different parts of the world coming to Britain in particular, and some going to the US or is going to Australia, I'm going to Canada, of course, there was a demand for labor in these countries after the Second World War. Many men had died.
men died in millions.
And that left a vacuum in these countries.
Men were short of supply.
That means labor is shorter supply, you need people to work in order to run the economy. That's why some of these countries opened immigration to places like Pakistan,
or West Indies, you know, Jamaica, this is why in the 70s, you had many Jamaicans or West Indians coming to Britain. And then Pakistanis came, particularly from Kashmir, you know, miracle is an area where a lot of people came from.
And some people came from the Punjab,
a place called gelam. So hundreds of 1000s of Pakistanis migrated to
Britain. Now we have over a million in Britain living in different parts of that island.
Can I have some water please? Is it possible from drinking water. So
when we came here, most of us didn't think that we will be here, for the next three generations. Now, Muslim communities predominantly have been living in Britain, or in America, or in Australia, in some cases, or even in Canada. For the last three generations, we've had children and our children have had children.
And they don't have an intention to go back.
Children who are born in the West are westernized, they may be practicing Muslims, but their way of thinking is westernized. They think differently, they don't think like people think in North Africa, or people think in Pakistan or India, or elsewhere. their way of thinking is very much conditioned by circumstances
in the West,
so they have no intention as such to go back and live another life, or a different life.
What we call back home.
You know, usually when you're back home, we mean the country we come from originally.
So now we face a situation, we have been here for a few generations. And it is very unlikely that our children will go back voluntarily.
I don't think they will go back voluntarily. They're like it. In the West. Things are quite nice. We we have had
our freedom in the west to worship. We have had mosques we have, we've had community centers, we've had equality, we've had education. So far, although with the election of Trump in the US, and some right wing parties coming to power in Europe, things are changing. No doubt, France has changed quite a lot since 911.
America has changed the global media is
deliberately or systematically demonizing the Muslims. And this is not a hidden secret. It is an open fact that international media is not a friend of the Muslims or the Muslim interest.
So how do we strengthen ourselves in the West now we have a situation here we are living here. We have businesses here. We have children here who want to live here who like it here. This is home for all of us now.
So how do we actually truly make it home?
And that is only possible when we strengthen ourselves. Do you all agree? Do you all agree that is only possible? This will
only become home, when we actually consider it truly from the depth of our hearts home.
Because this is where we live,
the lands we live in,
in this case, Ireland,
this land must benefit from Muslim existence.
Muslims must leave a positive legacy behind
not not only for their own children,
for the people of Ireland.
And there are some historical things I have to share in due course I've been talking about them. One of the best ways to wasteless strengthen ourselves is to get involved in politics.
Not to become politicians not to sit and you know, like, I'm not talking about politics as it is in your countries, because I can see different people from different backgrounds, okay. There are some Arabs there, there are some Asians here, I mean, not that Arabs are not from Asia. Rabia is also Asia. But when I say Asian, I mean, Indian, Pakistani, Bengali community or possibly Somali or Yemeni, wherever you are from, you're from different backgrounds.
So we, as a community,
we need to look at these things and get involved in politics.
It is absolutely necessary for Muslims to take an active role in politics, not to become politicians. As you see politicians back home, if you call it back home, it is no longer home, because you don't live there.
And funnily enough, I was born in Pakistan.
I grew up there, I lived half my life in Pakistan.
I am very much Pakistani in my way of thinking.
I'm possibly cultured and conditioned by
Pakistani way of
thinking or understanding things.
But I do not see Pakistan as home anymore, because I don't live there. I love Pakistan. So beautiful place, but I don't live there. So when I go back to Pakistan, to visit my parents or my relatives, I
do Casa in masala. You'll be thinking,
you know, because Pakistan, to some people, it's home. But it's I'm going back home. So what are you doing here? If that's back home, you've lived here for 10 2030 years of your life and he's still not home. You don't see this place at home.
There's something wrong with that. So when I go back to Pakistan for a month, or for a few days, I do kasara I shorten my Salah, I pray as a traveler, because I know I'm there temporarily. I'm coming back to Britain. London is home for me. I pray my Salah in full in London, I pray for a cat for the horror and answer. And three for marketing. And for for Asia for when I'm in Pakistan. I do 242434 Margaret, of course that doesn't change and to for Asia.
Why? Because I don't live in Pakistan.
I'm simply traveling our traveler there unless unless I permanently move back to Pakistan with my family live there and establish a business there.
So this is home. So when I say politicians don't think of the politicians you see back home, those corrupt politicians who are in most cases, you know, behind most of the crime taking place in those countries. Some of them, some of them are big gangsters. And because they have a lot of money, they come to power. I don't want to mention names, you know, the people I'm talking about whether you come from the Arab world, or whether you come from the non Arab world, if you are Muslims, you know what I'm talking about, whether it's Bangladesh, Pakistan, or India, you know how politics works, or whether you're from North Africa, I've traveled through these countries have been around. And I've
seen how politics works. I'm not talking about a politician like that. I'm talking about a man of the people, for the people. When you become a politician, you're doing it so that you can better represent your community politically. So if you become an MP,
you're there not to enjoy the luxuries and privileges you're there so that you can speak up for the community. If there is injustice taking place on the political level, in a country, you're able to defend your people effectively.
And if you're not there, then don't blame anyone. But yourself. Do you agree?
So when right wing parties are coming to rise, they are coming to power in Europe. It is happening because Muslims have failed for the last 30 years to engage effectively in politics.
We have neglected this area.
What is the Jewish population of Britain?
What is the Jewish population of Britain?
More than half a million?
Are you listening to me brothers?
Do you want me to wake you up?
Are you listening one? Good I please let me hear you.
Because I will get energy from you as well. If you're getting energy from me. I want energy back coming my way as well. Okay, so what is the population? Jewish population of Britain half a million? How many MPs do they have in the parliament?
The Jewish community, good for them? How many?
30? The last I heard was 30 MPs?
How many Muslims do we have in Britain?
At least 2.5 million. At least 2.5 million may well be more than 3 million.
How many MPs? Do we have Muslim MPs in the British Parliament?
Perhaps six or seven.
And some of them are not even interested in the Muslim affairs. Very few are actually vocal about Muslim affairs.
Why is that the case?
Are you then surprised as to why
British politicians and the Prime Minister and the political system is so inclined towards favoring what's happening on favoring Israeli policies in Palestine.
Because there's a very strong existence, political exists in the Jewish community. And the British Parliament, and this is this is this is a factual point. I'm not trying to criticize anyone here. Good for them. If they are strong, if a community is strong, and it's taking care of his
political interests. That's what they're supposed to do. Right? What's happening to Muslims? Why are we not taking care of our political interests?
Why are we not contributing politically positively?
In the political affairs of the lands we live in, whether it's France, Ireland, Britain, Australia, the US wherever it may be?
What is the outcome of being a political a political means non political? What are the consequences of that? I'll give you one example. Historically, you know, India was colonized by Britain, India, was colonized by Britain in the mid 18th century 1750s and 1760s. To be more precise, 1757 was a point when
the the British East India Company,
which initially came to India for business became
the master of a large chunk of India called
Bengal and not only Bengal, Bihar and Orissa. These These are three most
agriculturally provinces of India, this was the breadbasket of the Mughal Empire, when the Mughals lost Bengal, they lost
a huge source of revenue. Because these were predominantly agricultural societies, agriculture was very important for any Empire to survive, because agriculture would bring money, this is pre industrial era. Okay, so, Bengal and the Punjab.
two regions were in particular very important for the Mughal Empire, because this is where a lot of the provision and revenue was coming from. So when the Mughals lost Bengal to the British, and it happened as an accident, amazingly, the British East India Company could not even it's in his wildest of dreams. Imagine that it will become a master of Indian Territory at some point in history that could not have imagined.
It happened as an accident because things were chaotic at the time. And business businesses, huge businesses like the British East India Company had
Basically accumulated an army for itself to protect its interests. So, it had a private militia, a private army, the East India Company. So there was a dispute with the Mughal Emperor, the Mughal Emperor, not the Emperor himself, but the governor of Bengal. He had a dispute with the British, he asked him to pay taxes. And the British East India Company in return said that we have an exemption from the Mughal Emperor. And they produced a Furman for man is like a decree. They said, here's the format. Here's the decree, the Mughal Emperor previously had exempted have exempted from taxes, the governor of Bengal who had become semi independent at the time, he said, No, he insisted, taxes,
please. So the British fought back and when they fought back, they defeated to the shock to their own shock. They defeated the governor of Bengal who had an army of 50,000 men and the British were only 5000 led by Clive
and the British defeated the Bengal
army. And lo and behold, as a result, in 1762, the Mughal Emperor relinquished taxation rights to the British for three provinces, and then the British influence grew within a century, Britain had become the master of India, in totality for India was governed by Britain for a very long time. So, when India was colonized,
then came the independence movement.
The independence movement never really died, when the when the people of India realized what the British ambitions are in India, they started to resist immediately. It all started with a Muslim king called actually two kings, one was called hydralie. The other one was his son called tippu Sultan, they started to resist in British expansion in India, because they had realized that the British now plan to take over the entire Peninsula, not only Bangor are some parts of western India, rather the British plan to take the whole of India now. So they fought back, they resisted and cut the long story short,
they were not supported by other other Indian principalities such as the Murata and aneurysm in Hyderabad and there are other Indian small states that did not support hydralie in isanti, Bhutan, they were defeated.
Then, the struggle continued. On and off, on and off Muslims and Hindus continued struggling to get rid of the British.
It eventually accumulated
or escalated during the Second World War. When the Second World War kicked off. Hitler was threatening the existence of Britain altogether. So the British needed the Indian Army.
And the Indians fought in the hundreds of 1000s to defend Britain, Sikhs, Hindus and Muslims all went to fight for Britain, and different parts of the world because there was a global war. Remember that this is why it's called the Second World War. Even in the First World War, Indian contingents fought for Britain.
So, as a result cut the long story short, Britain gave independence inevitably to India.
And the country the peninsula was split into three
We had east and west Pakistan, which is not today, Pakistan and Bangladesh and in the middle, we had India Hindustan bought it, right?
But why would the Sikhs not given a homeland? This is the point I want to address. This is something we can learn from
Were a very important part of the British Army
since the mid 19th century Are you getting bored? brothers and sisters? Are you getting bored? So history lesson, but we learn a lot from history. History is very important. Why? Because Allah subhanaw taala in the Quran, again and again and again, draws our attention towards history. So baccara Cipolla read the second Surah It is one of history. Right? Why is Allah telling us about Israel? Why is Allah subhanaw taala telling us about Solomon for example.
Why is Allah talking about Ibrahim? Why is the lotto Anantara cave of Allah buka biard era Masai Mara lucky La la la fille bilad was a Moodle levina Java zakharova
Why's Allah talking about these things?
Halla Takahashi, so Moosa has the news of Musa reached you see refill our funds through cave Akana aka battle Makati been going to land and see what happened to those who came before you. So the Quran
uses history as a very, very powerful argument to wake you up. The Quran takes you from the forelock here, and shakes you wake up.
You're nothing special. People came before you a lot more powerful, a lot more effective, a lot more educated. Look what happened to them. Don't waste your time, wake up, learn from the mistakes and don't repeat them. That's why history is important. So the point I'm about to make about India to to get you to realize how important it is to have effective political leadership
so that you're not deprived
so that you're not deprived of some of the most important things in life.
So Muslims, were able to secure a homeland
because some of the Muslim elders and thinkers had realized that Muslims will only Muslims have always been a minority in India, Always. Always. Since the time Mohammed bin Qasim a thuc have he landed in the year 92 history in India, very close to Karachi, by the way, and he went as far as Multan Central, Southern Punjab, Mohammed bin Qasim athoc. avi, during the period in the time of Khalid bin Abdul Malik when he was the Khalifa in the Damascus hagyard, when use of the governor of Iraq sent an army of 5000 men led by Mohammed bin Qasim orthography.
In 92, at the same year when parekh bin Zayed landed in Spain, from Morocco, he crossed
the channel from Morocco to Spain, same year 90 to 80.
And the same year Muslim in cortiva, was in northern China Subhan Allah, this was the largest chunk of land ever taken by a group of people
So, from that period onwards, Muslims have always been a minority, even when,
in the 12th century, some are even in the 10th century in the 11th century, when some of the Muslim invaders invaded from Afghanistan from that region, like a man called Mahmud ghaznavi or Shahabuddin, have already
been some Shahabuddin votary, who, you know, the Delhi Sultanate, I mean, this is again, it's gonna turn into a history lecture. I don't want to digress, I don't want to go into another topic. The point I'm making is Muslims have always been a minority.
So for that reason,
when Muslims governed India, for nearly seven centuries, they governed India as a minority,
and governed effectively.
And Hindus, and Muslims and Jains and Buddhists and Christians flourished side by side for centuries, because Muslims had a very egalitarian policy towards minorities or majorities towards others in general.
the Hindus came to power,
who were the majority,
the Muslim leaders during the independence movement, were very concerned about that, because that is something they have not experienced historically. They don't know how it will turn out what will happen to Muslims if they are governed as a minority by the majority Hindu. And if the British leave India
as a democracy, what happens in democracy? What happens in democracy, the majority rules right. And if the majority rules, Hindus will come to power, and the Muslims will become a minority. So some of the elders some of the thinkers, some of the philosophers of the Muslim such as
Muhammad Akbar, is a very famous point. He was also a philosopher par excellence.
I need three hours to deliver this lecture, because I'm still on politics.
I'm still in politics, but these are very important issues.
So Muhammad Akbar was of the view that Muslims
under no circumstances, be governed by the Hindu majority
Because they will never get justice. This was his view. This was his view. So Muslims must
demand a separate homeland, where they honor the property, the lives, the religion, the culture is preserved.
So that they're not pressurized, they're not cornered.
And now what's happening in India
a reminder to that very fact what the ball was talking about,
in my, in my opinion, IQ bottles, right.
So, he argued that Muslims must have a separate homeland,
to have their
their way of life.
So, who did he hire to do the case, to fight the case? Jenna,
Muhammad Ali Jinnah, who was not a very
practicing Muslim, who was not a very dedicated Muslim initially, later on, however, he became more inclined towards Islam, he adopted the Islamic way of life. He was even seeing praying, and a lot of people actually claimed that he became a lot more dedicated Muslim at the end of his life. Muhammad Ali Jinnah, but initially, he was an English gentleman.
Okay, he would play pool, he would have bacon sandwiches, he would keep dogs in high in his house, he would dress like an English gentleman, and he was one of the top barristers in Britain. He was so big in Britain in the 19, early 20th century, that he had a white English chauffeur.
It was a big deal at that time, because India was
enslaved to Britain. Okay, so Indians were were seen as inferior, but he living as a barrister in London in Britain had a white man driving him around as a chauffeur. This is how big he was, as a barrister. He was a very effective lawyer, so a ball with his theory in mind that Muslims didn't need a separate homeland. He went to China, he said, You're the only man who can fight the case for us. Because you know the law. You know, the British law, how the British mind and the law works. So we need someone like you. We need someone like you to fight a case for us. The molana has the Armada scholars I'm sorry, are not able to speak the language. The British will simply not take them
seriously. Because they're not trained in the style. You are one of them.
It is like Subhan Allah, why do you think musala salaam was kept with Iran for so long?
Why do you think Allah subhanaw taala Allahu Akbar, when you think about the wisdom of the Quran, and the stories the Quran gives you, his sister,
puts him in a basket,
to save his life. They put him in river Nile, and they put the trust in Allah subhanaw taala go
Now, whatever Allah may do with you, it is his choice. Allahu Akbar. And the same child ends up in the house of Pharaoh around he is nurtured, is conditioned. He is fostered by that very establishment, which Allah is planning to abolish through this child. But how is this child going to do that? If he lived with Bhanu, Israel,
who were enslaved for four centuries, who simply do not have the confidence, the courage and the drive to stand up to Pharaoh
because they have been completely shattered as persons as individuals, they do not have the drive the courage.
They can't stand up to the oppressor. Why? Because they don't have the confidence. They're scared they have fear.
But this man, this child, Moosa,
who is from Monterrey, Israel, was put into the house of their own, and then he grew up with the Pharaonic establishment, having understood it from within, from the inside.
And then that's why, when Allah Subhana told him, having conditioned him now because now you see he needed cleansing,
living in the phoronix system,
it has taught, you know, it takes us tall, so you need to be cleansed. So Allah sent him in the desert, go out.
He spent some years in the desert. Allah conditioned him, reconditioned him once again and then have a laugh at our own in pa and even then masala Salaam was worried he was scared you're a lot and a lot told him. I tell you to go go
And he was able to look the pharaohs in the eye and talk to him because he grew up with the throne.
He knew the system. He knew how it works. He wasn't scared of it. He was from within.
So this is why
he went to Jenna, you know the system, you need to stand up to these people. So he came back. And he fought the case for the Muslims. And he became a very effective leader. And he was successful in getting what ever the Muslims got, although the split, although the divide was very unfair, the way you know, this guy came from Britain, who has never lived in India before imagine. Imagine. He came from Britain. And he came to split the country.
He came to tell the Muslims, this part is yours. And he tells you he came to tell the Hindus or the Indians, this part is yours. And he was simply sitting in the office with a ruler and a pencil drawing line to the map. Have you seen the map of Algeria and Libya? Hmm. Have you? Have you seen the map? Brothers Muslims? Yeah, you laquan do you study geography?
Do you even look at the world? The Global Map?
Okay, now I'm going to test the geography. Where is Burundi?
Oh, yeah, I know, bases in Africa. Is it? Is it in West? Okay, good. We're wrong. Where? Where is it? East Africa? Are you East African? That's why you know,
it's a small country on the map, you can't even find it. Okay. So we need. So if you look at the map of Algeria, and Libya, there is a straight line like this, ah,
where did that line come from?
This part of the desert is yours. And that part of the desert is yours, your logo. And who did that some guy sitting in an office, a colonial administrator, who put the ruler on the map, and he said Yama Libyans is yours. Now go and die for it. Yeah. And Algeria is your if you go and die for that.
I'm the one telling you that Who are you to tell us these lines? But that's another question altogether. So this administrator came in, he drew the line, this is Pakistan, and that's India. And that's Bangla. That's East Pakistan. This is West Pakistan. But the Sikhs in the middle who were very, very prominent in the British Army, they gave so much sacrifice for the British. since the mid 19th century, the Sikhs had been fighting nonstop for the British Empire, to an extent that during the Indian mutiny, when the Hindus and the Muslims fought for independence, the British Army
300,000 native soldiers, rebelled against 40,000 white British personnel
and still lost the battle. At that time, the Sikhs predominantly supported the British, against the Indians, the Muslims and the Hindus.
That much sacrifice but sheiks did not get anything,
no homeland for them, even though they are a separate religion.
separate people predominantly living in the Punjab region. You know why? Because they political leadership was ineffective. There was a man called master Tara Singh, who was leading the campaign who was leading or representing them, because he was not trained or educated as Jenna was, or as politically active as Jenna was.
Or as sharp as Jana and narrow for the for the Indians or the Gandhi. Gandhi was a barrister, by the way, when you look at Gandhi, you know, you see him dressed into pieces of cloth, you know, he was not an ascetic, he was a well trained barrister.
And he used his skill for the effective representation of his people. So the Sikhs lost.
And they fight for a separate homeland To this day, called holliston. Because they had no effective leadership at the time.
They're not people like Nehru, Gandhi and Jenna fighting for them.
Likewise, you the Muslims living in the West, if you do not have proper, educated, sharp, trained political leadership and representation, don't expect anything from anyone. Don't expect any sympathy from right wing parties. Don't expect you know, anything from organizations like EDL. In Britain, for example, it's gone down Alhamdulillah they are completely they have been rejected by the British people. The British people are some of the most tolerant people on the planet. You know, they said no, we don't need these people, although they are in the minority at the moment. But things can change very fast. How can Trump come to power in the US
Imagine if you don't have proper
political representation in America which you don't, but you don't, you don't have it unfortunately.
Till now you have nothing effective.
Any laws can be made against you,
your mosques can be closed, I'm not saying this is going to happen, but it is possible.
History can repeat itself, history simply lives on.
And if you don't have proper effective political leadership, if you're not led by people who are sincere, and dedicated
only for the well being of
the community primarily and the rest of the country at large, because, you know, when you become a politician, you should not be selfish, you should not only be self centered and think of your community alone, rather, you should contribute go out and that's what I will talk about next. inshallah. Tada, I hope you got my point on politics, that politics is very important for you to get involved in a lot of people will come to you know, you cannot be part of this kuffaar system, or this the Jelic system, there are people who come to talk to you like that.
Then if that's the case, why do you live in the land of you know, kuffaar and take benefit from her.
Pay back, give back, positively, nicely, creatively, give back. You don't have to adopt another religion. You don't have to adopt it as a way of life. You have to live by your rules, by your ethics, your morality by Islam, no doubt, but at the same time, respect others and give back handsomely. We will talk about that. In due course inshallah tala. So getting involved in politics in a non Muslim society doesn't mean that you are actually losing your religion. You're simply there to represent your community. Like imagine, in the joshy time when
the joshy was approached by the courageous to give away these people, these runaway slaves, they have run away.
So give them back to us. Imagine if Jeff Urbina, we thought he was not there to represent the Muslims. Imagine
if the Muslims, for example, were asked to send your leader forward. What do you have to say? And they were saying, No, no, no, no, no, I'm the leader. Another one comes along. I'm the Salafi comes, I'm the leader. The one he comes on the leader, the barelvi comes on the leader. The Sufi says, No, no, no, me. No, he's not my leader. He's not and what happens.
Any King, who has a brain was a pick them all up and throw them out. We don't need people like this.
what happened? Jeff Urbina, Vitaly Roger Lovell and stood up. And Muslim stood behind him. And they put him forward because he was the most effective, the most qualified, the most able person to represent the Muslims at the time, right. So they put forward is that, okay? We were a disgrace. People wish to worship idols eat dead meat. Then this man came from the noble family called Mohammed bin Abdullah. And he taught us these things, and we followed him and they became our enemies. Tell us what's wrong with our way.
This is like this is this is exactly how you stand in the Irish parliament, or the British Parliament or the American Congress and speak to the people. Speak to the representatives and tell them who you are and what you want. You don't want any bad for them. You want good for them. We are only here to be positive contributors, not destroyers as the media paints us.
And this will not happen until until you have people to represent you there. And that doesn't mean that you did did Jaffer Bina Batali become a Christian to become a Christian by stunning all the Muslims in front of the king? No, no, he's simply stood up for his people.
And if you disagree, disagree with me bring it up in during the q&a. Education. The next point education is very, very important. Again, it is intertwined with the political
aspect of your contribution to Western societies. Education is very important. You must educate yourself in the right subjects.
You must primarily teach your children Islam, definitely no doubt. Okay. You must strengthen the sense of identity in your children. When you sit on a dinner table. Talk to your children, communicate with them, teach them the literal Islam you have in you. teach them about the Prophet sallallahu sallam, his life his sacrifices Islamic history, Islamic civilization, what the Muslims have done in the past. Get them to love
Islamic lifestyle, which is beautiful, we believe it's beautiful. We live it because we believe is the truth. Right?
So get your children involved in learning Islam actively. And I don't mean by sending your child once a day for half an hour to the masjid to read the Quran without understanding. And there you have a molvi in the masjid. I'm not saying this in a negative sense. But this is the normal, you know, situation we face in Britain, do you have the molana citizen sitting there, and he's beating the child to read the Quran.
And that's the first exposure of the child to the word of Allah subhanaw taala. He will hate it for the rest of his life. Through this book, I was forced to read it. I don't want it.
I don't want it. I don't want any part of it. That book will never become part of his life because you beat your child to learn that book. And learn it without understanding not teaching him with love. Okay, if the children are too many, reduce the number split the responsibility. Take 10 children focus on them, teach them nicely. One of the scholars from India called showery Lama had this a Dalai Lama. He said that my father, the reason why I have become what I have become is because my father taught me with love.
And if we don't teach our children, the Quran with love and compassion, they will never have that attachment with the Quran, the word of Allah subhanaw taala that's very important. So understanding, giving them Islamic literature
actively. And not only that, then training your children in what we call secular sciences. So there has to be a balance, okay, if your children are being trained in Islam, Quran Tafseer, Hadees, shuru heart, you know, aqeedah whatever you want to teach your children, you want to make sure that they have an active participation in Islamic system, you know, get your children involved is a positive thing. At the same time make sure you teach them the secular sciences like other subjects, so they become you know,
or, you know, what we call
How can I put it, you know, that Islamic side is very strong in them. And the other side, what we call the dunia side, although there is no dichotomy there is no split between the two. Okay, Islam came for the dunya Islam is not for the Hereafter, you know, Islam, which is a way of life, we will not be living Islam in general.
Will you be leaving Islam in general you will, men will have no beard in general. Women will not wear hijab in general. In general, you're free.
Islam worshipping Allah subhanaw taala is here. Islam is for dunya the deen is for the dunya
Deen and Danny are not separate. So, when we say l l means primarily the knowledge of the Quran and the Sunnah. And then that leads to other branches of knowledge, which Allah mentioned in the Quran, the natural phenomena, the natural phenomena of Alejandra Eva Holika Ella sama, ecovia LGBTQ fenosa but what are the K y de la talking about these things? Do you not see? What are the LA mean? Do you not see see
no cry emoji one of the scholars of Islam he said that a lot of yield to books, two books.
One is the Kitab, the revelation, the Quran, the other is the universe.
When Allah says and Rahim is in Africa, Buffy unfussy him,
Allah tells you the Quran that we will show our signs for them in the horizon, in the universe, in the in the world, you will see, when you look at the world, you contemplate you think of Allah subhanaw taala. So give that knowledge to your children. Okay. So when they become scholars, when they do degrees, they have strong Islamic knowledge. And at the same time, they are strong.
You know, knowledge of the world, knowledge of the dunya whether it's physics, chemistry, philosophy, history, sociology, whatever it is, and teach your children, humanities humanities means subjects like history, philosophy, you know, sociology, or archaeology, anthropology, these things are very important, because most of our children now are going into science, which is great. Why I want to become an engineer, I want to become a doctor, I want to become, you know, something to get science or economics, right. Finance, you study finance or you study law because you want to become a lawyer. You study finance, because you want to become an accountant. You study medicine, because
you want to become a doctor or an engineer or civil engineer, right? Because
Everyone is thinking about
the stomach, not the brain, the brain we have left for other people,
philosophy, history, poetry, literature, you guys do it. And these are the ones who make policies for you.
These are the people who lead your societies, they make policies for you.
So you become the people a machine, you start to work as machines, because you studied for a job, not for the mind, right? The mind you've left for other people and other people will use you as they like.
He will simply become
cattle in the field. Have you seen in those primitive societies, even in some of those countries in our country, you see the the there's a there's a bowl was going around? Yeah, the Well, have you seen it.
And sometimes they put a piece of cloth on the eyes of the bull cannot see there is going around in the circle.
You know what I'm talking about. So the bull has a piece of cloth on the eyes. And it doesn't know that it's going around in circles, the whole thing is walking straight, but it's going around in a circle and is drawing water, or maybe drawing some kind of oil from something, right. But this is how we have become predominantly right, we're going around in a circle, work of nine o'clock in the morning, got a job, come back and living and die, eat, drink and die in the bed. You know, it's minor death, sleeping is minor death and then wake up in the morning again. So we like this, we're not doing anything for anyone else, not for the oma for not for not for our children. So this is
very important. We have to have a balanced life. And that comes with education. So education, again, has a multifaceted approach. You teach your children on the deen, very important, strengthen their sense of identity, make them strong Muslims at the same time, give them that direction in life that they become effective contributors. Next media through education. We need strong involvement in media now media has become one of the biggest problems for the Muslims in the West in particular, most newspapers are not your friends, most channels
and major channels I'm talking about
major news channels, such as BBC, CNN, Sky News, Fox News, NBC, you name it, they are not your friends, I'm sorry. This is the this is the the crude reality.
This is what the factory is on the ground. Most newspapers have nothing positive to say about Islam and Muslims. Unfortunately, because you're not there. You're simply not there.
You don't own any of the major channels in the world. You are 2 billion people.
You have oil wells, you have gas, you have everything.
You have some of the best doctors in the world. You have some of the best lawyers in the world. You have some of the best engineers in the world, some of the best lecturers in the world. And yet you have no representation.
In the mainstream media, mass communication you have left for others, you allow others to represent you. And you allow those to represent you who do not like you.
And they do not do justice to you. They paint you as the problem. When you're not the problem.
You are being shown as the villain.
So this is why you get so many attacks from Muslim women. I'm talking about the case of Britain. Every day in the newspaper, there's a report. Recently a guy kicked on pregnant Muslim woman causing her to have a miscarriage twins. Twins.
This guy kicked a Muslim woman in the stomach she was pregnant with two children, two children
in her stomach, they died.
Now the question is why did this man kick her?
Why did this man kicker what drove him to do that?
false representation of Muslims on the mainstream media.
So we need to stop playing the blame blame game and say the Zionists are doing it. The right wing Christian groups are doing it.
Or the Kardashians are doing it, or the Shia are doing it.
The list goes on. Okay. The question is, what are you doing?
Is the question. Okay, they're all doing it. And that may be true. what the question is, what are you doing? Are you studying journalism? Do you have strong television? I mean,
if I was to talk about the case of Pakistan even that's the big problem. Some of the media in Pakistan is completely biased against Islam, unfortunately,
because Muslims do not have a strong representation on media. We have not trained our people in media and how do we
Am I asking for a million Muslims to go into media? No. Even if you had 100 effective journalists
who are trained into journalism,
who were trained into writing news articles, journals,
or trained as TV anchors are run programs. Do documentaries make docu stopping you?
Most of you have Irish passport right? You don't have any travel ban on you right? the travel ban is there. It is not in your passport. It is there in the in the mind. I can't do it because I can't do it. No, it doesn't work like that. You need to do it. Because if you can't do it, tell your children to do it. Go and make a short documentary. Five minutes go and interview people on the street. What do you think of Islam? And tell them why they're wrong or why they're right.
Do something get involved in media and it doesn't stop there. I'm talking about even producing movies and cartoons for your children. What are your children watching at the moment? Are you listening to me brothers? Yes. Are you getting bored tired? Are you mentally drained? I should be not you
some finishing very quick inshallah. Tada very quickly, I'm summarizing the points. So your children are watching at the moment. What are they watching? What movies are they watching? What where is the inspiration coming from? When they watch cartoon who are the heroes Superman, Spider Man, Mickey Mouse, Donald Donald Duck, Tom and Jerry.
Pink Panther in the 80s in the 90s or maybe maybe 90s of the 70s. These the people your children are watching. Or they're watching movies when they grow up. They are watching
James Bond double oh seven
or the Godfather.
Hmm boys in the hood.
They listen to music, they listen to the rap music.
You send them to the muster to read the Quran, the child goes and reads the Quran, like a parrot comes back at home. And you leave the child in the bedroom either with a smartphone with a laptop and you're going to go to sleep and the child gets busy for the next two three hours and watching stuff you cannot imagine
your child has been exposed because you are simply not there as an option. You do not have options for them. You do not have Islamic content for them made in an interesting fashion.
So you do not have you do not have Islamic cartoons for them. You do not have Islamic movies. What is if you if people can produce movies like Gladiator
Robin Hood has been produced twice, once
through, you know, Kevin Costner starring in it in the 90s and then the new one came out with Russell Crowe. Right.
Then your kids are watching the gladiator or some other movies like that, you know, the kingdom of heaven. And even when Muslims are shown in these movies, they are shown in the most negative of lights.
When you watch this movie the kingdom of heaven which was produced in 2005, it came out in the history of crusades, although it was completely historically inaccurate the movie How was photons allowed in a you be shown in the movie? Right?
When he and his army shown the dark cloud on the pomp and the background music is like scary though these villains monsters have come when the Crusaders are shown who were actually historically barbarians. Who were the aggressors, who were the destroyers and murderers and killers, mass murderers. They were shown in like white robes and the wind is blowing. And there's a white cloud on top of them and angels are coming to rescue the world. This is what media does. This is the power of media. It can completely change your view on reality. Just because you're not there, just because you are not there to speak your side of the story. And because you don't have a voice and tongue.
You are seen as guilty.
Silence is consent as they say.
It's a principle in fick as well. Hmm.
A support the legal radar, as I say silence is consent when you are not there when you're quiet. And you are being misrepresented in the media. That means you're guilty. Simple as that. Because you're not there. Somebody should talk make documentaries make cartoons make movies make something make a movie on some fancy Latina up make a movie on cable sedan or or Fulton say for Dino quarters obey barsoi Tamia or Mr. Buhari Imam Abu hanifa Imam Malik Muhammad Shafi Mom, you have so much you will not run out of content will lie.
He will not run you know there is so much to to invest in scholars, you know, Subhan Allah, Egypt series were made in the Arabic
Language by some Egyptian channel.
You know, some Egyptian organization came up with these small dramas
on people like a mama NaVi a mama potamia, Imam Bukhari and the mama mama without, and the stories were actually actualized in, in the form of a drama, and will lie My kids, even though they don't know the Arabic language, I used to sit and watch, watch these programs with them, and they used to love them.
This love them, and they got to know these individuals,
superficially, but it was an introduction, which became real for them.
So why are we not doing it? So these are some of the conceptual issues,
ideas I'm sharing with the Muslims, I'm sure this video will go out to others inshallah, and they can also
help my views coordination. The next point, point number four in my list, coordination is very important, the Muslims must coordinate with each other, put your differences that we are living in a time of crisis. We are living in very, very interesting times, as is a Chinese
phrase, may you live in interesting times, we are living in interesting times.
These are very, very interesting times and this is when we need to come together
on priorities. Muslims, who people who call themselves Muslims,
they need to come together.
Continue to worship as you like. If you are a Salafi, continue to be Salafi, no problem with that. If you want to be that no problem, fewer Deobandi your 100 feet, no problem. If you're a Sufi.
As long as you believe in a line as messenger, come and work on common terms, allies telling you in the Quran, to bring the Christians earlier Al Kitab. Allah is telling you in the Quran, all the people of the book
come to common terms. So what about Muslims? What? Elijah me and voila, Roku? roku? is Allah talking about you, the Muslims? What are the four Roku?
So come together, work for the common and it's especially when it's a society like Ireland, where Muslims are still in a minority, I was told that the Irish Muslim population in Ireland
is not more than 50,000. Right? you more than anyone else should work together for
the betterment of not only your community, but the Irish people also, they should benefit from you. So coordination with each other will lie is very important. So let's say there are four brothers. Let's imagine there are four ballers.
What is sort of the one is Sufi one is Hanafi. One is Shafi.
And there are certain people you simply cannot work with. I don't need to mention them. There are certain people you simply cannot work with because you do not have anything in common with them. Don't need to mention them. I'm talking about Allison knotty wall Jama. I'm talking about this big, the majority Muslim group. Okay.
There are four brothers, and they're different with each other on simple things.
And they have a mother, when the mother is attacked, when the mother is attacked.
Are you listening? When the mother is attacked? What do you think of these four people if they start telling each other now I'm not going to work with you because you're not like me. But one will come and say no. One we are. This is our mother, forget our differences. We need to defend a mother she's being attacked, she's on fire someone put fire on her.
So let's take some water and put the fire out. No one will say no, no, no, I'm not working with you. I'm not working with you because I don't agree with you.
What would you say about such a person? A fool,
a fool, a real fool.
So we do not need to behave like that because our mother is actually on fire at the moment.
People are openly
attacking your faith, the Prophet sallallahu Sallam and physically attacking the Muslims around the world. This is happening because we do not cooperate with each other we're not united Our hearts are not united.
And at the point next point, social work the Muslims wherever they are, they need to practice their faith
and that practice or do not mean by practice Salah. So, Haji and Zakat these are many
Are you listening? These are minimums from Los Angeles, Los Angeles llamada hampsten Chateau de la ilaha illAllah Muhammadan rasul Allah. Ye Kami Salah is a carbohydrate Swami Ramadan. These are the minimums. What about the extras? The Muslims, Islam is social in nature, Islam
that does not benefit the society is not actually truly Islam. The Prophet sallallahu Sallam said the best of you is the one who benefits the people. Most. The best of you is the one who benefits the people the most. So there is a man who's praying all night at home tahajud all night. There is another man walking the streets, feeding the orphan feeding the poor and doesn't pray tahajud comes home and sleep who's better? Who's better tell me who is better.
The one who is feeding the poor and taking care of the orphan.
Because the one who's praying is only benefiting his soul. But when the one who's going out is not only benefiting himself is benefiting someone else and the society at large. Because that orphan if you do not do not feed the orphan, take care of the orphan that orphan may well become Saddam Hussein,
or Don Corleone, or Al Capone.
Have you heard the story of Saddam Hussein?
Go and study Saddam Hussein when he was a child, what happened to him? Go and read his story. What made Saddam Hussein because someone was not there to take care of him as a child.
Subhan Allah Allahu Akbar. So Social Work is the core of Islam. You cannot sit at home and do nothing. You know,
kindness never dies.
kindness, compassion will never die. Let me explain what I mean.
Why do people remember Salahuddin to this day?
They have been many kings before him and many kings after him a lot more powerful and rich than him, some of the Ottoman Emperor's Ottoman. Some of the Ottoman emperors had a lot more power, armies and land than Salahuddin. Why Sultan's allowed the remember to this day? Why?
kindness, compassion, to an extent that the Europeans even at that time, they mentioned him, you know, because what happened? This is how kindness never dies. When photons alladhina ubit took the city of Jerusalem, he allowed the Christians to go free. We will not avenge what happened 90 years ago. Some of the soldiers in the Muslim army they were saying no, today we will talk you know, that incident was going to take Makkah. And one of the Sahabi, who had the flag in he ran towards Makkah, one of the ansara. He said today is the day of slaughter. Today we will avenge the Battle of mother or herd. And as you know the Battle of conduct altogether. This is the year 800.
Today is the day of slaughter, this hobby of the professor loss of his companion. This is what he said
and the progress of the lost love centers companies and bring him back
back. So that grabbed him and brought him back and the profit took the flag from him and gave it to his son.
The flag was given to his son instead.
So even taking the flag did not offend the Sahabi. Why the profits lesson today is a day of mercy. Allah has given us power over them. Let's show them mercy, not destruction because this is what we stand for. So trans Latina up when he took the city of Jerusalem, he told the Christians that my armies will under their protection. We will take you to the coast and you can go back to your homeland. And these people in the 1000s when they came back to Europe, Germany, France and England. They sang songs about Salahuddin
they were singing songs of his kindness. Somebody someone Some were even claiming that he became a he became a Christian secretly. This is why he was so kind to Christians. Some even claim that
kindness never dies. In the case of Ireland, one thing the Irish people will never forget. It will never leave the psyche. One favor the Muslims stick to them. What was that?
Who knows about it? Sorry.
Thank you so much. You know about it. I am not teaching you this. The potato famine. What happened?
The Ottoman Sultan sent food. How much did it cost him? How much did it cost him? He's so far he's the king.
It didn't it doesn't affect his Treasury. It was a gesture of kindness to
was the Irish people.
And Irish people will tell you even today, that happened, one gesture of kindness upon a license food to the Irish people when they were dying of hunger, Allahu Akbar.
And the people mentioned, this is still in the psyche of people, a gesture of kindness, it'll never die. So you people living in Ireland in particular, and the rest of the West, in Britain, and America and Canada, Australia, ignore the media.
When I say ignore the media, it doesn't mean that let the media Bakit. You know,
respond in kind, respond with justice with compassion, get involved, and have your say as well. When I say ignore the media, I mean, do not let the media put you down, or put your spirit down or put your drive down, no, go out and do the social work and let the people know, you. Let the people know you. So when they hear something on the news, there's no
Mohammed is not like that. costume is not like that. It's not like that.
You know, Muhammad Bashir is not like that.
Or that uncle living next door is not like that. They're very kind of very nice people, the Muslims, they send us food, they clean our driveway for us. Well, I once only once our Muslim brothers came out in Britain, you know, recently, because they realize that we're not socially involved in this country, we're not feeding the poor. We're not helping the needy. There are people who are poor in this country, there are people who need your support, go to the hospitals and talk, there is a brother talking to me initially, he's saying that they do this project that go around and feed the poor and needy, and it is helping people understand Islam better, and they appreciate Islam and
Muslims better. quite some brothers in Britain only cleaned some people's driveways and removed snow with shovels, you know, they went and they remove snow from people's houses. And that had a huge impact on people's minds. Even a small act like that.
Imagine you feeding your neighbor, or you're doing something systematically, even though you are only 50,000. In Ireland, if you start to do charity within Ireland, go and start, you know, working with provide counselling, provide food and shelter, clothing wherever necessary in Ireland, the Irish people will be the last people to condemn you to criticize you to hate you.
They will be the last people to hate you. You know why? Because they know your character. They know Islam is beautiful, because Muslims are beautiful. They do good things, and they take care of the society. So social work, in whatever shape or form is absolutely necessary for us to be effective players in the West, to strengthen ourselves. I am talking about all these things politics, education, media coordination, social work, to strengthen the Muslim community, this is how you will become strong.
These are the needs of the time.
And finally, manners when you do something in the West, know that you have big telescopes on you.
Big telescopes on you as Muslims. You know, because the media is always looking for excuses to paint you as bad people, right? So you have 12 inch and 12 inch radius telescopes on you. You know, your aunt will always be shown as an elephant on the news.
Okay, so don't give excuses to your enemies, people who hate you. and observe your manners.
Follow the ethics of Islam, the manners of Islam, when you drive drive properly, do not litter the streets, clean your houses.
You know where I live in London sometimes are you know, sometimes you know when leaf or dry leaf. They fall from trees and then the block gutters sometimes. So I've got to sometimes get blocked. So I tell my family always that never allow this. To go more than a day why you should clean it immediately because your neighbor is a non Muslim. You don't want your neighbor to think that these Muslims are dirty people. No, it's a simple thing. It's a simple thing but it works. He should show your tidiness, your beauty, through your manners and behavior.
I hope I have raised some important points
to help you understand the situation and the best in the West. For our betterment as a community. I believe these are some of the most important things we can work on and they will strengthen us as a community in the West and we start to take these things seriously inshallah things will start to change. You have more opportunities today in Ireland and possibly any other Muslim community in Europe. Irish people are a very kind people are very friendly people are a very open people. And I believe if you do something positive for them like the ultimate Emperor, once upon a time, send them food and they still remember it to this day. They will remember you for the country.
Generations if you leave a good mark on the psyche, even today, thank you so much for listening was Salam aleikum wa rahmatullah wa hamdulillah. pinata me.
It was really very, very informative talk, and not only informative, but it was actually opening our minds and artists and it was great to have Mashallah. And now we are coming to the question and answer session. So if somebody want to ask a question, so we have microphones.
My guess, is born in Pakistan, okay, go to the holiday. And, of course of
how many days you can stay? And that's a very, that's a picky question. How many days do Casa look?
Some scholars say that you can only do Casa for 15 days, others only say for 19 days, some say for three days. And even about the distance how long you know, how long should we the distance?
Some say it is at costs, what we call causes, is a set distance, that if you travel a certain amount, then you can do closer from there. So these this is an issue of the scholars of Islam have differed from a very, very long time for the last 12 centuries. Scholarly differ, opinions differ on this matter. But personally, I pray cursor all the way when I stay there because I consider myself a traveler. Okay. I believe that there is no limit of time from the progress of the life of Prophet himself specifically never said do Casa for such and such time, or for so long. There is a report from of de la Vina busca de la one who is a cousin of the Prophet Allah Salam who said, the province
has limited Casa for 1919 days when he was in Makkah, you know, at the time of the conquest of Makkah, he did it for 19 days in another report 15 days. So because of that, some scholars they say okay, no more than 15 days, but others argue that this limit is not from the Prophet sallallahu Sallam the prophets didn't say that don't do it more than that. A prophet stayed longer in Makkah, he would have done Kassar longer in Mecca. So, these are some debates, which no you know, if we if you really want to study them, the books are fake or open the Hanafi Fiqh Mashallah have the his own view. The Shafi scholars have their own view, and some Salafi scholars from Saudi Arabia, they have
their own view. So we respect all of them, may Allah bless them for their hard work and brothers should you know if they feel comfortable with a particular school of thought they should follow it, no problem, okay.
But when it comes to
living with each other, we should not make these points, reasons to part from each, you know, our love as Muslims as brothers should not be affected by these different different opinions. Sometimes, what does a so staunch and so rigid in the view, that if you do not do things like them, they just excommunicate you? I don't want anything to do with you. Because you are not praying like me? Come on, you know, this is the wrong way of thinking. And I believe this is causing a lot of damage to the Muslims around the world. We should be open minded, we should study we should continue to study, continue to pursue knowledge of the Quran and the Sunnah to the best of our abilities, and ask Allah
to guide us. But if we feel comfortable with a particular school of thought, and we believe it is the right opinion, it is the strongest opinion but follow it. And Sharla I hope that answers your question.
I just want to make some.
So my English is no problem. You were talking about
aspects of Muslims like Hanafi, Maliki, and Salafi and
what we believed that happened at the end of it yet get their selfie. They medicate your selfie, and the selfie or their selfie. But, Sophie, if you're talking about Soviet who, who worshipped the graves, I don't think there are Muslims. If you're talking about some Soviet who got some pita, yeah, they're kind of astronaut, Gemma. Yeah.
You spotted the fundament. Yes. Let me address the first point. And you can come because
let me address the first question. Yeah. And then you can the issue with your right you know, all people who follow different schools of thought Hanafi Shafi, Maliki humbly Salafi whoever they are, they claim to follow earlier authorities. No problem with that. With regards to theism Sufi ism is not homogeneous. It is not
Want a group of people, Sophie's have different types and categories? some selfies, you know, are not as extreme as others, as you already clarified, you know, some kind of some types of Sufi ism are simply not acceptable. Even by the Sufi themselves, some Sufi says they are completely gone. So you're right I agree with you. I'm talking about people you can work with people who are close to you, people we have differences with on minor issues. We should, and we are the majority, that means the majority of the Muslims, we should work with each other. Next point. Yeah, yeah. Second point is where you were talking about Parliament? Yeah. And you mentioned jafa detail about the law. And
yeah, Jeff and Roberto, when he was talking with the king, it was just talking.
And my point is, if you want to go to the parliament, and raise the issue for Muslims, yeah, this is no problem with it with Islam. But if you go to the parliament, as a
lawmaker, lawmaker, yes. And you do legislations here. This is against Islam? No, I guess to him. I
I see your point. No, I let me clarify you.
If you go to the parliament, you are not there to make laws. You don't have to make laws, you can simply sit there. And if there is a law that's being proposed,
which is, for example, against Islamic values, you don't have to participate. You abstain, or the legislation itself? No, I'm saying to do the legislation. Yes.
If you are, if you are one element of Parliament.
This is for Allah Subhana. I know what you think I know exactly what you're saying. No, no, no, I understand.
I understand your point, I am saying that just being in the parliament doesn't necessarily mean you have to legislate you understand if you understand the system, you can sit there okay. And when legislation is taking place, you can simply obtain obtain means don't take part. For example, if if the parliament if the parliament is passing a law, for example, okay. Like for example, you are in a in a in a gathering of non Muslim leaders, for example, there are non Muslims, and they are the leaders and you are sitting in the gathering as the Muslim representative. Yes, you are there to represent Muslims. But non Muslim leaders are discussing their own issues, for example, and they're
discussing in between themselves that we should do this we should do you as a Muslim leader, you don't have to take part in that. You can simply sit quietly, but when your turn came comes to represent the Muslims, you can talk for the Muslims and you can if they are talking about something good, if non Muslims are proposing something good, you can take part in it. For example, you know, the issue of health care for all helpful for all Rasul Allah said if they did it today, I will Yes, so things like that good things you know, if there is legislation which is not against Islam, you know, if you're if you're having your opinion in that, no problem with that, but it's something that
is against Islamic being legislated. You don't go to the parliament straight stay at home, take holiday
is no some conditions you have to satisfy? Yeah. And like no, no, you have to satisfy some conditions. Yes, I agree. I agree. Look, where
you see this issue.
There are scholars against each other, even not with the government.
There are some scholars, some major scholars, big scholars who
have a disagreement on this issue. Some scholars say it is okay to go to the parliament and and take what our will bear with
me one on one, okay. Or the issue of health overdue. Let's use it as an example or even the issue of Najafi or even use of Islam working with the king. Some scholars use these examples as delille. To go and do good. Not bad good in the parliament. Others say no. The view you're saying your view, there's no you should not be there. So, I believe my view is that we as Muslims should be there to have our say, we should speak when we have to and we should abstain. Not say when we should not you understand if something wrong is taking place. If a wrong bill is being proposed, if an oppressive bill is being imposed upon, sorry, proposed, we do not we don't have to take part in it. We simply
abstain. That's it. So you have a view. I have another view
So and inshallah we can talk about this a long discussion, we can talk about it afterwards inshallah. Yeah, but but know that there are Allah, Allah on both sides. They are both views, one can be wrong one can be wrong, right? I accept that. But my view is that looking at the bigger picture, okay, if we as Muslims do not participate in politics, we are destroying ourselves with our own hands. Just because we, you know, have this view that we should not be there. If you're not there, then don't blame anyone else. Okay, yes, please.
In order for you to participate,
you have to you have to
you have to agree with certain things that they do. No, no, you don't have to, for example, give me anybody here can just go into the toilet right now. unposted views? And if there is something else, yes. If you're elected, go to the parliament and sit there and say for you to be elected. Yeah. Is there anything against?
In the process, you're talking about? The process of being elected? Okay, what's wrong with that? Tell me, where's the problem? There is a problem could be a problem. If there's a problem, don't do it.
Find find another find.
Find another way. There are so many other ways, one of the ways is influenced economically. That's another question. I wanted to discuss economic, or entrepreneurship. There's others talking about Muslims, if they are strong businesspeople. And if they can influence politics, through media, through education, through economic prosperity, you can do it by any means. The point is, don't sit idly. Don't sit and watch
your people being demonized and misrepresented on a massive scale. Because what happens as a result is what happened in Germany, the Holocaust, you know, what happened in Germany? study the history. What happened to the Jewish people in during the Holocaust? How was Hitler able to destroy so many people in such a short span of time how, how, because he was effectively able to demonize an entire community
of the Jewish people, and it destroyed the community. Whether it was 100,000 Jewish people, or 6 million Jewish people is not important. To me, even one innocent person dying is not is bad, right? So my point is participate if there is a problem with the process, if the process is openly non Islamic, and it constitutes some sort of disbelief, then don't get involved in it, I'm telling you, but if there is no such thing, then the fault is yours. For not getting involved. Okay? So, consult Allah, speak to the scholars. And don't just speak to one scholar, go to a number of different scholars. And ask Allah for guidance. Allah will guide you when you have an open mind towards
something a lot opens doors for you. Just take the step, take the step move towards a good direction. Allah will open doors for you in shabbaton. Okay. Yes, please.
After these two questions, or three are confirmed, kind of lost nowadays. Okay.
You have presented some good presentation and speak and the question coming to you is about pasa. It's about we cannot do that we cannot participate. And I'm looking for something excuses to do yeah, the last brothers. So
why can't we just be positive? Why can't we ask our quest? The question is, like, what can I do instead of, Oh, it's Haram, I cannot do it. It is always always negative, negative. I see you. I have been living in the US and France and Europe a long time. And every time I attend this kind of tone, it's always is we cannot do that. It's not it's the attitude. Yeah. And present. Even when I coach some people, always negative. What can you advice? Very, very, very, very important point. Very important question. Generally, I'm saying not
in every case, but generally, Muslims nowadays suffer from this disease of negativity. When we start to plan something. The reason why we end up not doing anything is because the start is with negative thinking.
We are always thinking of the negative things. What if this doesn't happen? What if that doesn't happen? The question is,
we need to start thinking about positive things. What if I do this and that happens in positive for example, if you start a process, if we start an organization, if you start a campaign, you need to look at the positive outcome of it. Not the negatives, if the professor lice alum, sat at home,
and he thought, colosse I'm finished. I'm destroyed. Allah has revealed the crown on me. Now, how am I going to go and convert the world? How is that going to happen? I'm only one man. But what Allah Subhana Allah? Yeah, are you home for under a buck of Aqaba? Bhagavata her word Raja foger wanna wanna
structure Walla? Walla, Rebecca foster? Be patient, be patient, because it will, you know, you will be afflicted, Allah warned him in the Quran, that it will not be easy, but he was very positive. He was very positive. He was tempted.
People came to him and offered him all kinds of things. And he said no, likewise, the Sahaba had a very positive outlook on life. They went out. And you know, these people, the Sahaba, were some of the most
ill equipped and under developed underprivileged and uneducated people on the planet, you have more education than the Sahaba education. When I say education, you can read and write and you can use computers and fly in Jetson, you know, you can do all these amazing things as harbor soul, they would fail today to do any of these things today. They would have to be trained for some time, a sobre su, but why were they able to do such great things, because of this positive outlook on life? You know, they forgot the camels and the goats and the little neighborhood a little house somewhere, they started to think of the world. Allahu Akbar, Allah has made us a mercy for the, for the words
when a lot tells them in the Quran, Mr. Tanaka, Allah, Allah, Allah, Allah mean that all Muhammad we send you not accept at the mercy of the words, the Sahaba understood that, that that Mercy is going to be delivered through us. We are the carriers of that Mercy of Allah. So they went out and they delivered it positively. Even though so many difficulties came their way. They continued. So once we have this positive outlook on life,
once we become doers, doers, not thinkers. Most of us are simply thinkers, we think too much. We think too much, we think, to the detriment of action, okay. Once we become doers think do think do think do, he will see exactly what happens within 15 years, 20 years, 30 years, your situation will change, you will become some of the most powerful people on the planet, some of the most morally upright people on the planet. So the outlook on life should be always positive. When you do something in life, always think of the positive outcome, not the negative. And when the negative happens, thank Allah and continue working towards the positive because the negative is from the
shaytaan. Negative shaytan will come and put obstacles in your mind. So when I'm talking about getting involved in politics, the brother gave an example. You know, we should look at the positive ways of halaal ways of getting involved. Not always think this is haram that's Haram is haram. I'm not asking you to eat pork. When I asked you to eat meat. Don't always go straight to pork.
Okay, don't always think of llama sincere. Okay. Because there is there is
there is Baccarat. Yes, there is chicken as well. Right. So many options from Allah subhanaw taala. There is
so much meat you can have.
Right? So think of the halal options. This is the point. But that's a very, very important point. When you want to start something always start with the options that are open to you. Don't start with the options that are not open to you don't think about them, you're wasting your time. Think of the options that are open for you. So how can I get involved in politics? What options are actually truly open to me? Okay, if you feel this is haram, don't do it. Do something that's allowed, in your opinion. If something is halaal do that. Do that that's the point. Be a people of action, albeit little action. It is very important. This is why Rasulullah sallallahu sallam, he said in a very
powerful Hadees la cara nominal maruthi xiaoyan la cara nominal Murphy shaken 101 takasaki virgin polyq do not belittle any of your good deeds. And even if it's little even smiling at your brother a lot what
is an action in Islam, you know doing that
takes some muscles, right? Some movement of molecules, right? It is Amal in Islam and the professor Don't belittle it. So when you will actually actively do actions, even little actions, Allah will give you the taste of the sweetness of man. Okay, most of us most unfortunately most of us because of this negative outlook on life end up not not doing any action because we always thinking Oh, what if this happens what if that happens? This is haram This is no Holla Holla Holla there's plenty of Halloween on Halloween Horror movie by no bueno Hama Mata shall be hot. Okay. Between them avoidable, shabby, shabby and Haram. COVID halaal. If you start doing halaal in your lives, you will
have plenty of work to do Allahu Akbar is allowed to feed the poor. Yes, right. Hello. Is it halaal to feed the poor? Yes.
Is it allowed to speak to the politicians?
Is it allowed to speak to the politicians? Is it allowed to do go to the the Irish parliament and address the British? Sorry, Irish Parliament? Don't Okay, if you don't want to be in the parliament you think is haram? Go and give them Dhamma speak to them. Talk to them Muslim? Well, I this is why once we had a session with the police in Britain, one of my friends he organized a session with the police. And they were police officers from Nottingham. Sure. Right? Midlands.
And a lot of these officers they came to listen to a lecture on Islam a lecture on Islam. Okay, so I walked in, in martial Alchemist, you know, Pakistani dress, and they looked at me though this guy,
we don't know what he's gonna, you know, because they have this image of Islam and Muslims in their mind.
So what did I do? I did not lecture them on Islam.
Not that it was something good. I did, eventually, later on, after having lifted the barrier between me and them, because I could see there's a barrier, there is a barrier. So before I tell them anything, I have to remove the barrier, remove the barrier so that they can connect with me. So how did I remove the barrier I lectured them on the history of Islam in Britain.
So I started with the Middle Ages, how the Muslims, the knowledge of Islam and Muslims came to British people that they went to Spain and Sicily and Lebanon and they took knowledge from the Muslims and they translated the Arabic knowledge into Latin. This knowledge came to the University of Oxford and Cambridge scholars came up and a lot of English men were going to the Muslim lands like Spain, taking knowledge for Muslim scholars.
The first English coin ever minted by an English King was a copy of the Muslim dinar King offer, you know King offer in the in the eighth century, who governed from 7756 to 896. Sorry, 756 to 796. He goes on for nearly 40 years King offer, he will govern some parts of the British Island, right. And the first gold coin ever minted by an English king in England was a copy of the Basset dinar, the dinar of bonobos. It is in the British Museum, it has the formula Muhammad Rasulullah. It will lie. It says Muhammad Rasul Allah on it. Here, the first English coin sorry, ever minted in England in gold. Not the Romans. The Romans were minting coins in England. No doubt. The Romans were there.
They had the English denarius and Arias, whatever, right? But the first gold coin ever mented by an English King was a copy of an ambassador. So the Muslims are there. Muslims have been there from the beginning, from the very, very early point. And I mentioned an ally these people like oh Subhan Allah, this is this. We never heard about this before. And they changed. I could see their faces change. And then in the last 510 minutes, I give them a lecture on Islam.
What was what is Islam? Then we took them downstairs in the in the wooded area we met in front of them. And so panela there were a couple of ladies with them police officers, they became so interested that the other officers got worried that they become invisible. They're gonna take the Shahada to do something.
So this is this Haram, no, talk to them, go and talk to them
Rasulullah saw Sallam talk to you know, even the biggest enemies of Islam. He talked to them, right? He was talking to them. Why did Allah send Musa to speak to Pharaoh don't go and speak to him go and speak to him. Try to convince him.
So this is the these are the positive things we can do halaal things halaal so always think of halaal positivity. And I love it open doors for you. Okay, if some a negative thought comes to mind, remove it out to be live in a shutdown regime. Get lost. Shut down, go. I will do this. This is a good action. I know it
Hold on, it has begun. I will do it a lot in sha Allah. Thank you so much for that point. Okay.
Anyone else? Yeah, so I see lots of questions.
Well, basically, I was like just two brothers from the UK, because the community there is more developed than one in Ireland, we're kind of new.
But like, no, please keep on coming and give us giving us lectures. It would be really good if we, you know, being from your experience, like you were saying about getting involved in politics, and you know, we need to call it phenomics. It's really important for us to do so I would just request like, you know, try to visit us a lot. And just before the board just come out between US and the UK.
Even if a foreigner comes up, the board cannot. Yeah, even even even if the border comes up, no problem, we will be visiting insha Allah tala. And like, why is vice versa, we have so much to learn two brothers from Ireland, brothers from Ireland should also come and visit us. There are so many organizations who are working in Britain, maybe a team of brothers can come to Britain, and work with the brothers brothers in Britain, and learn from them and teach them as well at the same time. And we have some projects going on in Africa as well. So if a team of brothers from Ireland, want to do some work in Africa, I will facilitate it, I will make sure the arrangements are made in places
like Uganda and Malawi. Go into our there and you will learn a lot there. So get International, wake up, come out of your bedrooms and start doing something and allowing open doors through you you cannot imagine a lot of awkward sabroso people have camels and goats, they could not even in the wildest dreams imagine, you know Abu huraira, who is to starve in front of the door of the Prophet sallallahu sallam. Once he was walking around with a bag of gold bag of gold in his hand and Homer saw him. You are the same person who used to be lying in front of the prophets door for four days without food.
And Abu huraira states that there were times when I was flat on the floor on the ground, and people have surrounded me and talking about me, whether he's alive or dead. I could hear them but I didn't have the energy to respond
and say Mr. Barrera walking around with a bag of gold. Right? A lot open doors for them. They could not imagine. We just need to come. And sometimes you know, you need to start something to inspire others. Because everyone is looking at each other. Maybe he should do it. Maybe he should do it. Africa, not for me. You know, maybe everyone who is thinking of it, start doing it. Start doing something small and it will become big. If you're sincere. Allah will make something big out of it huge look at Tablighi Jamaat
I do not agree with a lot of things.
And the I love the brothers, their dedication, they their beautiful manners. We have so much to learn from Tablighi Jamaat ally. Okay, look at the dedication, one man in the 19th century, early 20th century, maulana ilias, he started going around giving power to people.
If he was brought today, back from his grave, and shown what's happening in Bangladesh, in Delhi and in Pakistan, and some other parts of the world, the amount of millions of people who are part of the same campaign, he would, maybe he will, he will die again out of happiness.
That how Allah subhanaw taala has made his movement so big, right or wrong. You may disagree with a lot of things that Tablighi Jamaat, brother do, you know, maybe, maybe you don't agree with the way they teach or the way we the way they do things. Or maybe they are so rigid in their ways. Maybe you disagree with that. But the point is, there are so many beautiful things about them. So many beautiful good things about them. Again, the negative thing, we will always when we look at each other, we look at negative we don't look at the positive. We don't encourage you to the notion
beautiful there are so many good things about you encourage each other, lift each other spirit say brother use Mashallah you're doing so well. Maybe you can do this as well.
But if you were a little boy
Okay, I don't want to know you.
You see, this is how we are positive. Call it Valley the man who killed 70 an hour in the province of Assam. Did he say this call it he's in Ghana is finished? No. He said, If Allah used him for good,
it would be so great. When he heard his it changed his heart he I killed them. And this is how they're talking about me.
So sometimes the worst enemies of Islam can become the best friends of Islam just because someone had wisdom and Islam
as a method to communicate, so, I agree. I agree. So we should communicate with each other. invite us we will come inshallah, whenever you invite us, we will come
You are more than welcome to visit us, we will invite you as well inshallah to Allah inshallah. So now for one of the questions, so basically how, what's your experience or advice on, you know, trying to deal with?
effort, for example,
less just most just near each other. And like, one of them, you're going to be visiting at
zero building a school, but like, other bosses do not. I mean, instead of trying to buy land
I mean, instead of trying by line, and you know, build a new measure, just why, like, how can we advise, you know, coordination coordination here, instead of spending the effort and money between like four different ones? Just know.
We start with we start with the easiest things, we start with the things that are easily doable. If you want to climb a mountain, you don't start with Mount Everest. Okay, you don't start with kaitou or Nanga Parbat, some of these tallest mountain in the world. You start with a small hill first, right? And then you build yourselves up, right. So when it comes to coordination with the Muslim community, you know, there are cultural barriers. Bengalis have their mustard, the Indians have their mustard, the Pakistanis have a la yo yo is on his ankles and churches and Mama's will run the masjid. Right. And then the Arabs, they have their own system, right? What you do is you if you
think there is a problem, and there's no coordination, you can become the bridge, you can become the bridge as a person, you can go to all four machines, all the leadership, and start doing positive projects, tell them look, this is nothing sectarian, nothing about your power and your committee and taking the masjid funds from you. This is about developing the community. So let's do some classes for the youth For example, let's bring the youth in and do some kind of council work with them. Or let's get the youth of your masajid involved in social
projects like feeding the poor taking care of the orphan or their if they're elderly or going to go into one of the hospitals maybe once a week or once a month, visiting the sick in the hospital and asking them if they need anything giving them comfort things like this easily done things and I'm sure most massage even in Ireland will not disagree with that, you know, the elders, a lot of the massages Unfortunately, they are run by
brothers who are very short sighted, you know, they don't think beyond the mustard they don't think beyond the carpet on the wall and then the tap and the toilet. This is all the life is getting the toilet is the seat is not working or the tap is not working. So it's going to become a big problem nine mustard. So they will start fundraising and but they don't understand that mustard is not the building. Mustard is an idea. It is an idea. Mustard is there to develop the community. You know all campaigns will lead from the masjid of Rasulullah sallallahu sallam, every time someone came to discuss politics, social problems or other issues, from marriage to divorce to to, to digging a
canal or taking care of the the agriculture of Medina or the mountains of Makkah or securing the roots of the pilgrims, every single thing that was discussed in the masjid Omar bin Khattab, another one of our sitting in the masjid mosque It was a social center. So a Masjid has to serve the community by educating the community by highlighting the the social issues that are actually directly affecting us. So these are some complicated things they will come in sha Allah once the right people start getting involved in the massage. So instead of criticizing the elders and telling them you you're not doing a good job, do something positive and let them see that you can do
something and they will inshallah, once they see you're sincere and dedicated they will unresponsible Most importantly, if you are responsible, they will let you do it. In most cases it will happen inshallah, where you cannot do the work if people are not cooperating. Leave them to Allah. Simple work with the people you can work with people who are open minded and masajid can do most of the work which others you know, because this is where you can lead the Muslims. This is where half the job is done. When on Juma you have 100 people sitting in front of you give them a project, tell them okay what we want you to get involved in, let's say next month on such and such
day we'll go and feed the poor hello hello so you have 20 3040 people they will join you and the process will start so if the machine is not doing something socially then it's not you know, praying five times a day buying on the masala Okay fine, but how is that affecting the society if your Salah is not affecting the society
What good is your Salah why it's a lot of five times mandatory coming to the masjid. Mr. mcquarry actually believe that it is for for you to come to the mosque to pray. Why? So that you can actually do something social someone is in need someone is sick someone is has died. Someone who's Janala someone is charity, somebody support, okay, yellow community gets together take care of the person or the people. Right? But if the machine is only coming to make blue and salon go home and nothing social. It's not serving its purpose. I'm sorry. That's not what the machine was for. It wasn't made for that.
So anyone else?
a beautiful talk.
You're sitting under the speaker.
Brother, as I was talking to you earlier on here, you know, in one of the I have Quran, Allah subhanaw. taala says to the nearest meaning that moment is the one who is always sick or synchronize with the time he or she is living.
And I was, as I was discussing with you, you know, a few months ago, one of my Irish colleagues asked me a very simple question in a very polite manner. He asked me
what actually are the contributions of Muslims in my country?
Can you tell me 12345?
And I was, yeah, honestly. I had nothing to say at that time. So this prompt prompted me to start an organization and we start started our work. So we started with the homeless people. Firstly, at O'Connell Street. So as part of our organization, slum Ireland, what we do is that we interact with homeless and needy people, we feed them, we provide them clothes, we, we visit hospitals, we visit elderly people. And sometimes when you go to hospitals, you see, you see, these people are kind of very alone,
you meet the demand for months, nobody would have come to meet with them, like, you know, their children would have deserted them. So these ideas are very powerful in all of your posts can be summarized in two words like having interaction with the local community and contribution.
You know, sometimes when I interact with my own community, they always ask for examples. So it's just I want to mention that what whatever brother or Nan has mentioned here,
we are not doing, you know, as we should. But we have started a little bit of it. And I have seen the results and consequences of these things. They are extremely powerful. And we are standing on every Friday at O'Connell Street. You know, and people ask us question, are you Muslims? And when you say they want to hug you,
they want to invite you to another house because you're doing some social work. Yeah, we were not telling him anything about Islam or our religion. Simply what we are doing is we cook from our homes, we take it there, we feed them, and they want to hug you and invite you they want to give you money. And our service, we recently started that we you know, we are asking our volunteers to send invitation to 4040 of your neighbors around. Yes. So what I did was as an experiment, I wrote a letter to 40 of my neighbors, dear neighbors.
My name is Dez I'm your neighbor, I have this skill set. I can cut the grass, I can do this, this inviting you for snack on Sunday at my home. So 22 people came with chocolate boxes and gifts and everything, you know, and they became my good friends. Yes. And some of the ladies asked my sister to give them open a jar.
So whatever brother the non has said it is it is very powerful.
Because we are a new community in Ireland, and not a lot of people are actually doing that study. Yes. Yes. You don't have a lot of
All we have is an idea as some of our people are very passionate.
People want to join us in
our project. I mean,
thank you, thank you so much for that. And this is an opportunity for everyone listening to me right now that you know, you cannot imagine how much impact small things like that can have on people. Small acts of kindness as I said, kindness never
dies, it will never die in the memory of the people. You see all those people walking past looking at Muslims giving food to the poor, for the rest of their lives, it will remain in the psyche in the memory that Muslims do social work. They are kind people, they are a compassionate people. And it will only happen when they see it happen.
Seeing is believing, as they say, right? And action must be seen. So this is your opportunity to join these brothers in this great project. The reason why I call it great is not because of his magnitude, in terms of numbers and the amount of funds they're putting into it. I'm calling it great because of its impact on the minds who are being benefited, or who are being benefited from this project. People who are benefiting, you know, those homeless people who are being fed, or people who are actually watching. So how many people are you actually benefiting? You're benefiting yourself primarily, you're benefiting the one you're feeding, okay. And you're benefiting the one who's
watching you feed that person. So how much benefit there is in such work cleaning someone's driveway. Or if someone needs help if there's an elderly woman or a man carrying bags, go up to the person and say okay, but these are random things, but this is a systematic, this what the brothers are doing is a systematic thing. You can be part of it and it become it can become big while I was telling the brother that if it becomes a huge project within Ireland, people in Britain will replicate it, they will see you do it, they will go and repeat it in Britain. And then before you know it is happening in France, it's happening in Germany, it's happening in Norway, it's happening
in Sweden, and it becomes a huge movement. Okay, so I I really, you know, appreciate what you're doing. And all the brothers I think all of you should get involved in this inshallah inshallah. inshallah.
Maybe just one last question for me is like a different question regarding education. And you mentioned that there should be balance in education and understanding from your talk that basically there are three primary aspects of education, Islamic religious education, and secular education and first year, but what we see in practical, you know, whatever the organization they are related to education, either they are purely secular, or or they are purely giving Islamic hell
of size, whatever they are doing the right Sufi, so, if you consider them that, Mashallah, good job, yes. But then again, they are liking these two other two. Yes. So, are there any organizations working on it? Or if we want to work in how we can actually replicate, you know, combine all of these things? Yeah. secular as well as there? That's a very good question. There are some organizations I know, in Karachi, in Pakistan, they have established schools,
for children. And these are top of the range schools. One of them is called reflections. What they're doing is, they are giving some of the best
education to children. When it comes to English medium education, like a levels and all levels. At the same time. They're teaching them complicated books, like Bukhari and Muslim and teaching them the shadow of Imam nawawi the shadow and teaching them the books of thick as well at the same time. So Islamic education is very strong. At the same time, the other type, the other side is very strong. And they have basketball courts, basketball courts, they have swimming pools, they have racecourses, they have all these facilities for the children so that they don't feel like the children are mothers or do so what's happening right now in Pakistan, to give you one example, and
this may be the case in the rest of the world, that the religious education is given by the religious industry institution, and they are not exposed to the other side, right. And when these kids qualify from, let's say, a madrasa, the only thing they can do in the community is become an imam of the masjid lead the janazah pray, do nica whenever necessary, or do the talaq or you know, reconciliation process, right? But if you ask this person to go and do fly a jet, for example, okay, or deliver a lecture on astrophysics, or cosmology, or philosophy or literature, such people unfortunately from mothers, I won't be able to do it. But when it comes to these sophisticated
subjects, a person who has no connection with Islam, who's possibly an agnostic or an atheist, teaching your Muslim children in a Muslim country will influence them heavily. So because he's intelligent because he's educated because he's eloquent, and they don't see unfortunately, that from the other side, they think this is what we want to be. We don't want so we need to produce
people who are comprehensive
comprehensively educated, who have very strong Islamic elements involved. At the same time, they are very intelligent, well versed in secular sciences, if you want to call it poetry, literature, philosophy, history, or other sciences they have studied that will have a very positive impact on the minds of the people. That's why people like Charlie law in India, this is before the British. You know, this dichotomy between secular knowledge and religious knowledge was created by the colonial powers deliberately to degrade Islam and Muslims to basically so someone who is qualified from a madrasa is not able to do an administrative job, you won't have that person doing
a high what we call high fly job, right? Okay, one of these good jobs and good companies. That person is only for the masjid. There's nothing else you can do. And this is exactly what the case is even today. Okay. So pre British period in India, in Madras, they taught logic. They taught mathematics, they taught medicine, they taught Sharia, they taught Hadees they taught fix the Torah, the Koran. So people who are coming out of these institutions were thinkers, intellectuals, philosophers, poets, literature's parks a lot. That's why we had people like shower Lula and shark disease and people who were very intelligent, right. But then they came in the British came, the
colonial powers came and they crossed, they created this dichotomy. secular institutions were top of the range education for people who will go into the system afterwards, serving the machine, the colonial machine, they will be educated in these institutions. And others, leave them to the village mosque or small town mosque, and let them do so those imams lost the importance. Those molana has
lost the importance in the society, because they will not they will not they will not active players anymore in the society. That's what's happening today. Unfortunately, we need to break that barrier between religious education and so called secular education. Once we bring the balance in sha Allah, it will happen it is happening now in places like Karachi, where they have started this process and some of these kids are very, very sophisticated children, Allahu Akbar, you talk to him about Hadees and this and that, and to Sharia and they will, they will give you answers like that. And then you talk to them about other things, and they will be well versed in those things as well. And one of
the schools they have is a small project
but very important project called alphabet Academy that took the kids recently when I was there not long ago, they took the kids for paragliding, rock climbing, and and even skiing. It's an Islamic school. That's giving them Islamic education with the so called secular education. Okay, when they're teaching them English, how the teaching them English by the way, that teaching them English through Syrah. So it is the life of the professors alum they are studying in the English language. So they're learning the English grammar through studying the life of the professor solo. Okay. So if they're doing something else it is this is how they are building the own curriculum, this is what we
need to do now. Okay. And then they took the children for all these activities, you will not see these things happening in a madrasa never. You go to a madrasa, you ask the teachers, they take your children paragliding or skiing.
They're gonna have you lost your mind.
We can barely feed the children, we can hardly feed the children. So this is a big problem we have we need to overcome this problem as soon as possible. We need to reform of our education system reform for the better not for the worse reform. So that we can go back to the I mean, not everything old is outdated, or regressive, as the old is gold. If that thing that system was working, it was producing good results. We need to go back to it. You know some of the best scientists during the Muslim golden age or the the golden age of the Islamic civilization. You know people like Avril Haytham or Abul Qasim of Dharavi
or even in the rushed, the man who actually introduced Aristotle to the west, ignore rushed the author of battle Mr. Hill, you know the big Compendium he wrote encyclopedic work on on comparative jurisprudence, his name is mo rushed, also known as Avi rose in the West, right. He was the copy of Maliki thick and Kurkova. He had troubles for some, some of his philosophical views, no doubt, but he was a philosopher, thinker, theologian fucky, among others par excellence. So he studied philosophy as well as the
You're not a decent associate and all of that. So some of these scientists and scholars in Cordoba and Bergdahl in Damascus, were not only scholars in science and literature in philosophy, they were scholars in Islamic sciences also. That's why they were so effective. So inspirational. So we need to do that, again. Simple, it was working, then it will work again. And Jonathan, thank you so much for all of you.
Thanks very much for coming. And it was obviously very beneficial for everybody in sharp and wash
rather than non Rashid has not only delivered a good talk but has given us some things to think about for our future works as well. And I'm sure where wherever the lands are being purchased or this thing inshallah there is good and bad, and we need a lot more actually that then that whatever is happening, yes, we should be united, but I think one organization cannot do everything. So if we can split the tasks, distribute the tasks that
might be needed as well inshallah, yes, we should be working together with each other, and sakala and thanks very much, brother.
Everybody coming here.