Sects and Cults in the Muslim World #10 – The Split in The Shi’a

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The speaker discusses the confusion surrounding the idea of the "will" cycle, with some people claiming it is the Prophet's, while others believe it is the "will" cycle. The "will" cycle is a cycle of negative emotions, and people are reminded of the importance of not being in the "will" cycle. The speakers emphasize the importance of keeping reminding oneself of the concept of Islam and the importance of not being in the "will" cycle.

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Bismillah Rahmani Raheem upon

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Allow your ability to mean while Salatu was Salam ala Salle olema, Arkady Nabina Muhammad and while alihi wa sahbihi wa barik persona or praise are due to Allah, Lord of the Worlds peace and blessings be constantly showered upon our beloved Prophet Muhammad, the master the first and the last, and upon his family, his companions and all those called to his way, established his sundown, to the Day of Judgment, as to what follows my beloved brothers and sisters, to our friends, to our viewers. Salaam, Alaikum, Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh.

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The humbler Allah in the beginning, and in the end, we thank Allah subhanaw taala, for the opportunity to be muslims in these challenging times. And the opportunity to reflect upon the good and the bad in our life, to try to clean our own existence up and to come closer to the Creator of the heavens in the earth. And so this course that we are looking at the groups and sex in the Muslim world is really developed, not for high level ideologues, not for people who are debating against each other ideologically. But it is developed for the mainstream Muslims, also developed for people who are interested in Islam, who are studying Islam, who want to be familiar with names and

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This is a confusing world that we are living in to date. And it's important for us to go right to the source, in order to understand any particular subject. So in this case, we are going right to the source, which is the basis of Islam. And that is the book of Allah, the Quran, and then also the way of Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon you. Because this is the base of Islam. No matter what you call yourself, no matter what must have, you are a school of thought, no matter what movement, what sect, the basis should be the new Buddha, or Tawheed, the Oneness of Allah, the Creator, and then the Buddha, the prophethood. That is the basis of everything that we are dealing

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with. And so using that as a framework, as the base, that this was the best generation doesn't the time of the Prophet SAW Salem, as he said, Chiron as corny Dumela, Nina, your Luna home to Medina, your Luna, the best people are in my generation, and then those that follow them, and then the generation that follows them. And so looking at it through their eyes, what they went through, not as angels, from a part of paradise, but as human beings, who are tested with the ability to do right, and the ability to do wrong, get tested with desires, that challenge physically, the challenge emotionally, that is the fate, or that is the condition of humanity. Islam comes as a way

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to elevate that condition, that a human being who can at one point, be higher than angels. And at another point, they can be the lowest of the low, that even animals would look at human beings and shake their head and be ashamed at what they are seeing or be disgusted, the level that people can actually go to, in terms of destroying each other and destroying the environment around them. With this as a base, this is a primary source, and is from that point of view, that we try to break down terminologies that for some people may be very complicated. There may be gray areas, but we want to break it down the base of it, to try to understand it as a phenomena. And then to see how the Muslim

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world broke into splinters and fractions. how human beings with their feeling to be divided, or with their weakness in this sectarian way of looking at life, could take a beautiful clear religion and then interpreted sometimes in the wrong way. And so, that is the basis of what we are looking at. This was a very traumatic period of time. Right after the death of the Prophet SAW Salem. The Sahaba themselves were in a state of shock. They were able to group themselves, they were able to hold on to the rope of Allah through the first two Khalifa Abubakar Siddique radiola one and Omar evil Katara

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The last one,

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they held solid. With man also, every founder the law one, they held solid. Toward the end of his rule, division started to show based upon tribe, and based upon power forces, and with man was a kind person, he was strong and resolute. But he was also the type of person that found it difficult to say no, he would prefer to keep people satisfied in an Islamic way. This was his disposition, and his nature. And so during this time, we start to see divisions come in, and poison coming into the Muslim world. individuals. We know that the dynasties that were toppled over in the time of Omar, even the time of Earth man, the the Persian dynasty, it's a long dynastic rule.

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The Romans, who lost their rule, they were not completely toppled. But they lost their authority in the Middle East. And so dynasties that had ruled for centuries, cultures that were very complicated, we're not going to go away so easily. Opposition came from them.

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Opposition also came from the moon African, from hypocrites within the ranks of the Muslims. And a moon Africa is a person who appears to be a Muslim, but yet inside actually believes and does something else. There are also of course, straight up disbelievers. There are those of the People of the Book, who although they had the book, the Christians and the Jews, although they had the book, they were subjected to a type of weakness based upon their ego, or based upon their misinterpretation of the scriptures. And so opposition was coming in and when Islam spread to Iraq, then we find another group coming in, that is the occult. The people have a sangha of magic. And

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this is a very dangerous group. Because the magicians and the people of occult within numerology and within their systems of confusion that are hard to see openly, they caused major divisions. And they were a type of runway or a type of opening for some of these other negative groups to try to come into the Muslim world and to seize power.

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But the Companions held on the best they possibly could. And we find that with this confusion going on, a great fitna happened, and that is a trial, a tribulation, a gray area, which found as the province of Salem had predicted that they would be a great war would happen between two opposing parties of the believers. And they were both believers. But what would happen and so we found the Battle of the Camel, we also find the Battle of Safin where Ali ibn Abi Tala rhodiola, Juan, who was selected as the Khalifa found opposition from very close from his own ranks, even from Asia and Talhah on Zubia. Opposition, that through the poison that was put into both sides caused a battle to

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happen, of course, with the character that say that Ali had, he was able to calm down the situation and send Aisha back without harming her to deal with the Muslims in a positive way. Although they had been involved in a great battle,

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but he was able to come the situation down, but lo and behold, wow, yeah. But I'll be so young. He was looming from Syria. He wanted to kill us. He did not care about he laughed. He wanted first to find the killers of Earth man who was from his tribe, and whose wife had given him the responsibility to take revenge. And so the people of Syria who had surrounded and supported Malia rhodiola, one is Sahabi Giulio.

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It caused the confusion. And this confusion led to a confrontation. Unfortunate confrontation which over 70,000

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people died in this great fitna. In this great wall, this was a trauma. And so the OMA was traumatized at that point. Resulting from the trauma came the heritage. These are people who were very much involved in work

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worship, but they lost something in their mind. something snapped. And so they could be very pious, and then justify the murder of companions justify committing atrocities in the name of Islam.

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Ali confronted them and wipe them out, except for a few

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of the ones that were left with those who wanted to take revenge. And so they said assassins to kill Ali. Amalia, and am I the last?

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The ones said to Ahmed. And while we are we're not successful, but Ali's assassin, even MoodGYM. He was successful. And Ali radiola. One passed away. He did not make it a kingdom.

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He didn't say yes for Al Hasan or no. And the companions and the Muslims chosen Hassan to be the Khalifa. But Hassan had no intention to continue in any form of fitna, and he gave over the authority to Mahalia

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valid, Phil, if it went into the hands of Maui. And Mahalia was able to calm things down, he was able to bring a type of order back to the Muslim world, the fighting was over

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the fitna that confusion was over.

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And money was being put toward my dresses, money was being put towards calling to the good and forbidding evil, the armies went out to defend the borders of Islam. And so the energy of the Muslims could then be taken away from each other, and then given to what it's supposed to be, and that is calling to the good and forbidding evil.

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And so the word Shia was used for the first time, a sect or a group. It was used to describe Shia to Ali, and she had to Mahalia. So that is the group supporting Ali and the group supporting Mahamaya. That's the first time that terminology is being used. It is nowhere being in the Quran and Sunnah as a group, as an identity, not we're supposed to avoid falling into different groups and different categories like this.

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she had to ollie

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continued, these were the supporters of American money. But she had to Mahalia, once he took over the authority became the government. And so it was no longer used. Benno Romania was being used, or mayor dynasty

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was the terminology used to describe laurea, especially his descendants, because now he was still coming in

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as a companion. And so

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the Shia terminology

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has a political tone to it. Because the people who identified as Shia, they didn't say I'm a Shia. Everybody is identifying as a Muslim. As Allah described us, Muslimeen mean, more CNAME. That's how Allah described us. They did not say I'm a Shia, Sunni. This is important to try to understand, because we're trying to unpack these different names and these understandings. And so

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she had to ollie

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were the supporters.

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This is what I'm terming as political Shiism now you're going to see the word.

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Tasha, you're an Arabic Tasha yar

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is it's spelled in different ways. In English, they say Shiites.

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Or she is Shia ism. I say she ism. So there's different ways of looking at it's all the same. Okay, so it's the ideology of the Shia. And so the political version of Shiism, those other supporters who opposed the oppressive, who made dynasty and again in the time of Mongolia, many of the companions, including people who were Shia to Ali, joined in the great jihadists, especially the jihad to Constantinople. And so there was no major groups fighting each other at this time.

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It wasn't until later on, when Mao he made a fatal mistake. And that was, he began to think about making his son Yazeed as the Crown Prince. This is a mistake. This is where he laughs It turns into kingdom

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and so opposition

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now starts to rise, especially when Mao here then passes away. And Yazeed takes over. And Yazeed although he led the army, representing Ben Omiya to Constantinople, he was an official. He was the son of Mario. But he was not a person who qualified to the highest level to be the one who takes over because this is a meritocracy. And there was still al Hassan Al Hussein, Abdullah, even Serbia of delay it but Omar, Abdullah, your buddy our best. There were still great companions leftover and these are like the sons of even

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the leaders, the Khalifa 's were still there. Some of the sons of Abu Bakar was still there. So I mean, if you're looking for somebody in a dynastic way,

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or somebody who has high qualifications, then people like Abdullah but Omar Suleiman Zubair, this is the highest standard that you can get in terms of piety and leadership ability. And so opposition began

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to rise. And when the opposition arose against Yazeed we find that it was led by Abdullah bin Zubia. And remember, during the fitna,

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Al Hussein and Zubair Abdullah bin Zubia, went to Mecca. So from Mecca, Abdullah, he and Zubia Rhodiola. One Houma starts to organize. And Hussein as we found out, got the word from Kufa from the people of Iraq, that they would support him.

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He was vehemently encouraged not to go, but he was a person who would stand for the truth, highly opinionated. And he went towards Iraq, to unfortunately find his demise at the terrible tragedy of Karbala, where the armies were sent from the Romanians, and when he and many of his family members were put to death, the opposition continued. There were people who still supported Hussein.

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There were those COFINS over almost 12,000 who said they were going to support him, but when the armies were sent, obeyed alive and Ziad and, and the armies of the Romanians came into Coover and Iraq, they got afraid and they left Al Hussein alone.

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These are the people or toa Boone. These are the people who wanted to make repentance because they realized that they were guilty of leaving. Husein Rhodiola. One is a terrible feeling. And so they went to Karbala, where the solder happened to the area where they were buried. They wanted to make Toba they started instituting different practices, whether it be self flagellation, crying and doing many different things giving sadaqa whatever they could do to make Toba for this terrible tragedy, and so, but that group at the time, was still Muslims. It was not a Shia group that is different than Sunni groups. Remember, this is important to understand. It was still all following the Quran

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and following the way of Prophet Muhammad peace and blessings be upon.

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following this, the opposition in Mecca was put down

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and succeeding leaders within bento Romania, to the point of Abdul Malik Ibn Mattawan armies were sent and hijab and use of a toughie the the mayor general took over Mecca and killed Abdullayev and Isabel Raji Allahumma.

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And so, the political opposition

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was put down to a great extent,

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but in terms of the the shiatsu alley, so the Zubair faction put down but she had to Ali is in Iraq, especially in Kufa and that is important for us

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to understand, because Kufa as we found out before, was one of the centers of the occult. And we recognize on the Quran tells us in terms of Bukhara that, how Ruth and Maruta angels came into Babylon into Babel, and they brought magic.

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And so this was the seat of magic and most of the occult groups in the world. When they go back to their route, they will go back to ancient Iraq. Sometimes they go to Egypt and other places, but the real

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serious group

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Extreme groups will go back to the basis of magic coming into the world.

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And so, the extreme elements coming out of Kufa, traumatized as well traumatized by the killing of America meaning Ali Rhodiola won the killing of Allah Hussein.

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The high wattage and the insanity things that they were doing. It's a terrible trauma. And so, it is a point where people are very weak. And

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it is a point where what we could call theological Shiism. So remember the difference political Shiism? This is the island bait people, the ones supporting Olli, and those around him and now the illogical Shiism? So this is where the group starts to take on an identity, it starts to take on religious symbols, and incorporate them into their understanding of Islam. Now, how is this possible? If we look at the case of Christianity, we recognize that isa la salaam, Jesus, the son of Mary, may Allah be pleased with them both. He was a mighty messenger of Allah. And he was sent to Benny Israel eel, he was sent to establish the law of Moses, to bring out the spirituality, not the

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letter of the law, but to also reinforce the spirit of the law.

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And so, His followers, his disciples, strict monotheists, strictly following the law of Moses, all of his followers were Jewish. And this is important to understand. This is who he came to. And that is what his teachings basically were about. But later on, after his demise, we believe he was raised. But after his his leaving of the Earth,

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one of the tormentors of the disciples named Saul claimed that he had a vision on the Damascus Road, he saw Jesus coming down. And he and he named himself Paul.

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And he felt that he was given inspiration. And so when Paul went to the disciples with Barnabas, who was one of his classmates and friends, they rejected him. Why? Not just because he was a tournament, but because he was bringing in new ideas. He was trying to bring in the concepts that they could use other than the law of Moses.

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It's what we would call today better, he brought in innovations. And once you open the door to religious innovations, we are changing the religion, you're allowing other religions to affect your religious understanding, I'm not talking about your material progress, but your religious understanding.

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Now you are changing the basis of the religion itself. And so it was that base, the door being opened, when the Christians went into Greece and into Rome, and they mixed with the the people who worship many gods, the gods of the Greeks, Zeus Aphrodite, the gods of the Romans with Jupiter, and Jupiter and Venus, all of these myriad

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amount of so called gods that they believed in also the belief in sun gods, the belief in Mithras, the Son of God, who came down to the earth died for the sins of people, the Trinity concept. This is not a concept that was in the teachings of Isa lay slab, but it was there in the ancient world. And so with this hodgepodge in the Mediterranean, and then

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we find in the fourth century Constantine, the Roman emperor of the East, Eastern Orthodox

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Christian empire, who took over Rome, Constantine brought it together, and incorporated sun worship, with the original teachings of Isa lay slab. Now, to try to understand when exactly that happened is impossible to try to understand where it happened. This this blending, it's almost impossible. We can see it with Constantine.

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We can see it with the message going north and we know that the pagan nature worship is very powerful all over Europe. This is 1000s of years of belief. So this is not going away. The sun worship, ancient belief, this is not going away. And so somebody must have said if you can't beat them, join them. When in Rome, do like the

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Romans two. And it is thought that Christians being sacrificed to the lions, being murdered, somebody at some point couldn't take it.

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And so they developed a type of compromise faith. And they incorporated the nature worshipping celebrations and concepts into the belief. Until now,

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when the spring season comes, they say it's Easter time.

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And the Christians look at it as the time of resurrection from the dead, life after death. But Easter is a pagan goddess of the nature people are stray, Eastern, or Easter we say in English. And she, they believe she would wave her wand, and after the winter, everything would turn green. Life after death, you see it. So the nature of religion, the monotheistic religion, or what is left of it, because the bidder phone right? They're mixed together to the point where a Christian can now say, I am a Christian and you are a Jew, we're different. But they're not supposed to be different. The basis is the same. And so how it happened when it happened, very difficult to actually

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understand. But we can see the process going on. So similarly, in looking at

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Islam being spread, especially into Iraq, into this Tigris and Euphrates region, we find that there are a number of power groups who want to come back. They could not defeat the Muslims militarily.

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They cannot defeat the Muslims, spiritually, Muslims were even incorporating other people. They couldn't stop it. And they were corrupt and decaying themselves. And so what is left of the Sassanid dynasty fled into the high lands Turkistan, and the area's high in the mountains. But they wanted to come back. And so they penetrated, trying to push the importance of their dynasty. Because remember, they believe that the Sun God, they are my juice, so restaurants, fire worshippers, and they believe that the sun manifests through the elitists and the fire is sacred. We're still lighting the Olympic torch up until today. So this is not going away. As you can see, it's still on the scene, your Jedi

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Knights, you know, your field of force, the good part of the bad part yin yang, this concept, this is the ancient beliefs. So it's not going away and changes form. And that's where the monotheism has to be revived, constantly revived to throw off the different innovations that will culturally come along with the weakness of people.

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Also, the supporters of Ibn Saba who still were there, especially in Kufa, that was one of their bases after the assassination of with men rarely allow one, many of them ran back to Kufa. So they are still around. Then there are just opposition people who just don't like Syrians who don't want Arabs to rule them. And so there's a number of groups and the opposition starts. And it starts to take a form that we could call theological, Shiism.

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And extreme elements start to surface in the area of Kufa, so many different names again, if you read it, and Josie is work katiba, Baghdadi and a number of writers you will see a Tabari a number of writers you will see some of these groups, it's so much it can get confusing, but to show you the level of confusion that they went to. They took these wrong ideas of Eliab and setback. And that is the deification of Ollie rather lajuan.

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And something which is had nothing to do with Islam, even with Ali himself and when he found people who were trying to make him into a God. He punished them very harshly even burnt, some of them alive, something which is unprecedented. But they were so crazy with their belief, they would retort now we know your god because only God can punish with fire.

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And so this extremism starts to, to show itself is hark ibn Muhammad UTMA. This is one example. He claimed that Ali was Allah and that he would appear at different times. And sometimes he would appear as Al Hassan. Sometimes he would appear as Allah Hussein

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And so concepts like this. And the group now is deifying Olli. And looking at

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his family as a type of divine base and focusing on this

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and opposing the Omega dynasty at the same time. Now, the confusion came for the common people. And this is our confusion up until today is that when the Shia would get into arguments with other people or debates, they would immediately go back to political Shiism. And that is the position of Allah debate. The family of the Prophet SAW Salem, who were persecuted and needed to be defended. And that is something that all of the Muslims belief and so that is that is a noble movement, that is not changing the religion.

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And so the people who were bringing in this deification and these other are confused, fusing ideas with jump to the political thing, put it in the front, and you'll see it up until today. When somebody has questions are from the extreme Shia side, then immediately Ahlulbayt immediately the political Shiism then shows itself but the reality is something else on the ground. A good example of this probably I would say the best clear example of how the group split now where there's this split came in, she Islam itself, it comes through Imam Zaid ibn Ali ibn Al Hussein. So this is the famous Imam Zaid. Now remember he Zaid ibn Ali, Ibn Al Hussein. So it was Saines. Grandson,

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great, Muslim, knowledgeable, pious, opposed to the mermaids. He starts to leave lead a rebellion in the eighth century against the Omega dynasty.

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And he calls for support from the people, especially in Kufa. Because this is the this is the area of his great grandfather. This is Ali's capital. This is the base, this is the Chateau Ali. So he calls for support from them. At the same time, this turmoil this hodgepodge of ideas, starts to come and this, this pure Imam is coming. And he is appealing to the people and a group of the Shia, then come forward. And they say we'll support you, but you should curse. The Companions especially you should curse, Abu Bakr and Omar

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because they shouldn't have been a Khalifa.

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So you can curse them curse with man, Chris, all of those who supported this, this is foreign

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in terms of belief, because remember, there is no Sunni and Shia at the time. Although this is a person of Ahlulbayt on the highest level, he's a Muslim. He's praying like everybody else. He's fasting like everybody else. He does not call himself a Shia.

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And when he hears this, he responds to them in words, that aboubaker Omar, may Allah be pleased with them, they were the best of us. They followed the Prophet SAW Salem,

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you know, and my grandfather supported them and I will support them, I will never curse them. And because of that, they left him alone.

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And they turned against him. And he said referred to money. You denied me.

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So this now is one of the moms. He got to use that terminology. Right because he's under Hussein, right? So one of the moms and he's saying to this group referred to Mooney you are deniers or rafidah. So the terminology that many people use for the extreme now is a Rafa.

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So this is the extreme theological Shiism.

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So Imam Zaid then continues to struggle that's political Shiism.

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Okay, he's struggling against domains, which are too early. And unfortunately, he is eventually defeated. The people, you know, left him and these groups, these strange groups in Kufa and he was martyred. And the the the other group then continues, and so

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you can say then, in a sense that the Rafah becomes the extreme theological Shiism and the followers of me

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May Allah be pleased with him, they become

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they become the the the the the, the twelvers the Rafah that becomes the the Mohammed or the twelvers and the other group becomes the ze dia.

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Okay, so here you have the two sides, because we want to go slowly through this to make it clear. You have the political Shiism and that is Imam Zaid who struggles against the Romanians. He's his regular sunnah. Regular Salaat. But then you have the theological side, which is the Rafah so this Rafa the group, B is the extreme group, this is where the Imam it starts to come in. And this is where the ignatia at the twelvers, the 12 Imams, these groups start to come in on the two sides. So you have the theological, and you have the political shifts.

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So to try to understand this, I want to look at the chart, I hope you can see. This chart here

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that I'm putting up and you see on the top is Ali and Fatima. So remember, the Prophet SAW Selim did not have any male children who succeeded.

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And so by the will of Allah, there was no crown prince, and the people who needed to have that son, they needed that blood dynasty through a male, they couldn't get it. The closest to that was Ali radiola. One was his cousin, and who grew up in his house, because his father Abu Talib, was poor at the time, although he was Sharif noble. So Ali was in a sense, like his son, and he was Ali rhodiola, one

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great companion, first male to accept Islam. Great Sahabi Jaleel and he marries Fatima. So in terms of bloodline, that is the closest to a direct bloodline, from Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, and Ali had sons. He had Al Hussein and Hassan, Mohammed Eben Hannah fear. These are the most prominent of the sons of Ali radiola one. Now what is not known by a lot of people is that Allah Hussein

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on his side of the family,

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when the Muslims

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captured Iraq and brought down Persia, the great battle of elkaar, the SIA, sided side, but I'll be what costs are the low and they brought down the sentence, there are a number of prisoners of war amongst the prisoners of war, they were members of the royal family. And so it was the practice to incorporate them into society bonded servitude, I'm not going to use slave term or anything like this has nothing to do with this. Right hand possession is a terminology coming out of the chord M. And so Hussein was given one of the female members of the ruling dynasty of the sentence, Persian dynasty as a right hand possession, Chateau Balu.

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And he freed her, and he married her.

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And so the children coming from Allah Hussein and Cher bunu have not only the prophetic blood are the closest to it, but they also have the blood of the Persian dynasty, that the people in that region considered to be holy. They considered it to be connected to the Sun God, and that it deserved leadership above anybody else. So that combination starts to make a group of leaders. And this is important for us to be able to unpack what is going on. Now. We'll look at this chart here.

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Some of the terminologies we'll be going back to again, in more details as we go along. But basically, the survivor of Al Hussein, coming out of Karbala, is Ali Zainul RBD. So in a sense, he would be considered to be the next Imam Ali is the first and Hassan is the second element. Zayn is the third and Ali Zainul. Aberdeen is the fourth. So these numbers were not being used at the time. By the way, there's no dynasty of Imams, but this would be the leading figures within Ahlulbayt the people who had to protect the family, the people who stood up for that important bloodline, which is something that is important to all Muslims under Ali Zainul RBD is Muhammad albaraka

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His brother is Imam Zaid. Now again from Imam Zaid

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is then coming the Saidiya

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right so that is the Zedi group of Shia

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but the main stream Shia is coming from Mohammed Al baraka and when we go down, we find Jaffa sodic coming as number six Imam Jaffa and Imam Jaffa Rahim Allah is described as extremely pious person and he was a colleague of Imam Malik Eben Anis Rahim Allah the great Imam Dara Hijra Maliki school of thought they knew each other in Medina and they were all practicing sunnah. So it wasn't like the Shia Imam over here. The Shia mosque and the Sunni mosque with a Maliki's are no, they were all Muslims, under the Quran, and under the way of Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon.

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And so, under Imam Jaffa was number six,

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they had to choose number seven. And seven, as we'll find out later, is a mystical number from the ancient societies. So the 70 Mam was going to be a very important Imam, especially the occult. Now remember the people who are coming in from Kufa

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they have numerology numerology systems, where they use numbers in order to weigh Arabic and sold the numbers they tie them together. And these numbers are being used up until today. I mean, we use it. For instance, people say instead of writing Bismillah AR Rahman AR Rahim, they put 786 Right? You might have 786 on your ring, or on your door. Where did 786 come from? Is it not come from the Sunnah? Is it not come from anything to do with the Companions, but it's later to people who wait things in Iraq in terms of numbers, number systems that they were developing. It's a highly advanced system, but it's not the revelation. Okay, so seven is important.

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The Imam coming in the eldest would have been Ismail, he had problems and we'll be discussing that more as we go along. And so Jaffa chose Musa al Kadhim.

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After Musa al Kadhim comes Ali a radar.

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After Ali radar comes Muhammad, a tepee

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after Muhammad, a tepee comes Ali Al Hadi Ali Al Hadi. After him came Hassan Al Askari

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and After him came Mohammed Al winter that and that is the final 12th Imam of the 12 months who believe that the Imam it stopped at 12. And this is the final one that they call Imam Al Mahdi. And we will be going back to some of this to give more details. But just to give you a general understanding, you know of how these names are starting to now take shape. Now remember, if we go back up a little bit, and you see Muhammad Al back here, again, it's a little bit

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great leader of the family, but another great Imam is the Imams eight

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and Imam Zaid does not take the theological shears,

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he breaks away and his followers develop themselves. This is called Zedi. Yeah, this is the idea. And we find the Zedi sect are the Zedi group, especially in Yemen

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and the Caspian region now this is going up toward Russia.

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So up in that area, they are Turkistan. And you know these areas. Some of these ladies are up in there. And but the most powerful group of this idea established itself in Yemen. And when you look at this idea, there fic their jurisprudence is very similar to the Sunnah.

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They, but they do retain the political belief that Imam Ali should have been chosen. They felt that Ali was the most deserving for the FIL effort, but they show respect for all of the amounts. So they respect our Walker. They respect Omar and Earth man. Okay, so there's no problem there.

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They do retain some aspects of the Shiism practice from theological now some of it spills over into them, like the other than they've added on a section you know, to the other end, which we'll go into more

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with more details amongst the practices of the theological Shia is a practice called Mata. And that is temporary marriage. So this idea, like the people of the Sunnah reject temporary marriage, where you can get married, you make an agreement. And so three days later, you know, after your weekend is over, you go to Niagara Falls, and you don't have your three days. And then Monday comes.

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We're divorced. It was a temporary marriage motor. So you will enjoy yourself for the weekend. And then we're not married anymore that is rejected by Alexandre well Gemma Zedillo also rejects and it's interesting because this idea is the prominent school of thought so to speak in Yemen.

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And that's relevant because the Houthis today, where the struggle is going on in Yemen, there's a this this is this idea.

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And so this is complicated. And this is what we can understand more, what's going on on the ground. When you understand these differences, if you study the Ottomans and Turkish culture, especially coming from Mahara or na the beyond the the the Oxus River in Turkistan and these areas Caspian region, you'll see heavy emphasis on Ali ibn Abi Tala or the LA one. You know, it seems like the Shia so how are they Shia type people that are up there in the mountains, I thought they were just the Sunnah of the Ottoman, no se d has erupted. So this is important to try to understand. Now the mainstream body of Tasha, this is she is and again,

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how it happened when it happened. It's extremely difficult to pin down the actual time. But we see a transition happening. And we know the opposition that is there. And one of the key issues that separated the Allah sunnah from the Shia, is the concept of Imam it.

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And that is the sanctity of the Imams, that those 12 Imams that you see, are actually a special, specially designated group of people that is supposed to take the leadership.

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And secondly, it's dealing with the companions of the prophets on Sunday.

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And whether you accept them or you don't accept them. The third is their perspective on the Qur'an itself. What is their understanding of the book of Allah subhanaw taala.

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The fourth is motor. And that is instituted by their Imams coming in the temporary marriage. And the fifth is the concept of takia. And that is pious deception, the simulation. And that is that you can deceive somebody we see in the story of the Prophet Musa alayhis salaam,

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when he came into Egypt, and he was approached by the theoretical leaders at the time, the hexose, who were in the ironic position at the time, and they wanted to rape his wife, and they said, Who is this? And he said, It's my sister.

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And it was a system, that wouldn't be so good. They like to take control of your wife. So sister is different a blood feud can come and whatever. So they let her alone. What do they mean my sister in faith? Not my blood sister. Okay, that's takia.

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So now what shape does it take? It takes the shape where the Shiite groups are now under pressure. They are under pressure by the Romanians. They are even under pressure by political Shiism, like dizaines se dem, they don't accept them. And so they are being hunted down in certain parts of Iraq and Syria, and other places. So therefore, they can lie to you.

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And in within their own theological belief, they're getting lessons from telling lies to a Sunday. So these are some of the key distinguishing points. And we want to go into these points. Before we go into it, I want to break just for a moment to remind you that if you have questions, you can put it forward in the chat, send it to the Facebook,

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get your information to us. And at the end, we'll have a discussion

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with some of the questions that you may have because it may appear to be a little bit confusing. Again, I'll be going over the names. So you start to see

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how this develops, I'm concentrating a very broad based topic. There's hundreds of groups. There's all types of schisms, but I'm bringing it together. So the common mainstream Muslims can begin to understand what the basis of this Shiism is. Okay. So

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the basis of it. And I want to see, before we go on,

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are there any questions so far that has come up? Okay, so we want to, at this point stop and answer some look some of the questions before we go on to some of the details concerning the mainstream ignatia The twelvers their mainstream beliefs, so floors of the question.

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The first question is, who should be considered?

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Yeah, so the question is, who should be considered the founder of theological Shiism? That's impossible to identify an individual because, again, it's a hodgepodge of people living in Kufa.

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And, again, like the case of Imam Zaid, that's your leaders. So they're supposed to be the leaders of the Shia move. But when you look at Imam Zaid, when you look at Jafra sodic Ali's anal RBD Muhammad was back at all the Imams you will see that in their personal practice, they were regular Muslims.

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Imam Malik respected Imam Jaffa. They live together. They prayed together. There was no Sunday masjid and Shia Masjid. So it is really an underground type of thing that starts to develop. And there's no particular person that we can take it back to, to say, this is the theological Shiism, if you listen, if you went to the theological, she himself or herself, they would say the basis family,

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the basis the Quran, but as their misinterpretation of the Quran, because when you actually go back to Ali's time, and Hassan Hussein, nobody's talking, I'm a Shia and Sunni, the term is not even being used. You see, so it's something that comes later. And it masks and disguise a Persian dominance that wants to come back. Also, an opposition from the occult, from the people of magic wants to come back. So it's impossible to really pin it down to anybody in particular question.

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The next question is

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from the side of AlHassan, this this, this is the ze d and if I go back here a little bit

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to the chart that we have.

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And then you see where it says a Hassan and Hussein now, Al Hassan, from his side, Al Hassan got married a lot. And they say he had around 21 sons. So there are a lot of Hassani, imams or descendants. And the most prominent of the Hassan descendants actually migrated to North Africa to the city of Fez and formed a group called it recents. So this is the family of Idris, who is a descendant of Al Hasan and there are a lot bate and up until now, the king of Morocco, King Mohammed considers himself to be a little bit

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and you know that the Sharif's and the saints that are there in Morocco. So that's a Hasani type of background. You'll also find some of the Hassan is also in Turkistan, and, you know the regions they're, they're in different places, but they're not as prominent politically, they didn't take a political type of shape at all, but they are known as the sheriff's.

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You'll see some of the sheriff's are in Hadramaut.

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Some of them went to Pakistan, Afghanistan. Some of them went into Somalia, in Ethiopia, they're actually Sharif's in the city of Hara that is in Ethiopia. Today what is now Ethiopia.

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But but but the Hasani side did not tell

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In a very prominent role politically, as except in the case of Morocco, and that is where the Hasani families. Question. Where do we find this idea?

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This idea that the main place of this idea is Yemen,

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the what is remaining of this idea in the Caspian region, that would be in the Turkistan your region there.

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There are still some remnants of it, but it is it did not take a form, the main shape is Yemen, they are the majority of Yemenis. They're actually ze DHEA. And but they're so close to the Sunnah, that it's very difficult to really even tell the difference between a person who is sad and a person who is a Sunday until certain discussion, you know, may happen. So Yemen is the base of this ad group.

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I mean, where does it come from?

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Yeah, so the 12 Imams that we are talking about.

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This is really,

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they didn't call themselves the 12 months. So in other words, from the time of Ollie, he was a mirror Mini. So he didn't say I'm the first of the maps. And there will be a group of Imams after me. Because if he did that, it would be a kingdom. In other words, you will be saying, My family will be the leaders, my children's children's children's children, they're the only ones that can lead you. That would be like Malia.

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But this is philosophic. That's the difference between the philosophy and the kingdom. So he didn't say that AlHassan, who took over as a mirror mode, meaning he did not say I'm number two. He didn't say Allah Hussein, who was opposing Yazeed, he did not say I'm number three, he was very close to two Abdullah bin Zubia. And the other companions, he didn't say I'm number three hammers, shear, and the rest of them are so nice. No,

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even Ali's anal RBD. He didn't say, um, number four, he was just trying to survive, you know, after this disaster that happened to the family. And then Muhammad Al baraka and then you go right down, they were not calling themselves

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necessarily the 12th. And it's not till later, really, that this ideology starts to take shape. And again, it's a long period of time, much of it is underground.

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It gets mixed in with another group that we'll be studying called the Botania. The real magicians start to come into it. So it's fairly confusing, but it's not until much later in literature.

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Hundreds of years later, from these original times that you'll see specifically saying the 12 and listing the 12, you're not going to find that in the electrical, they didn't call themselves that.

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this is the basis that we have.

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Again, it's important to understand

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what happened. And and to recognize that probably the key point, I want to emphasize this point, again, in our conclusion, and that is the leadership.

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But this is really where you can say there is a split. And again, it's more really political Shiism are those sincere people following the Ahlulbayt and that is that the concept of Khalifa Burj Khalifa is the successor of the Prophet SAW Salem, it the deputy representing Allah Almighty on Earth, the vice Jarrett,

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and it is not reserved to a special special family. There are traditions pointing us to the fact that if we could find somebody from Kurdish who has the qualifications, then we would prefer that because that reminds us of the Prophet Muhammad Salah Salem and the Qureshi dialect. And so we would prefer that but if not, it's not reserved to a special family. Three,

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that the person should not be aspiring to be a Halifa. In other words, you don't start off and say I am the Khalifa. It's my political party and you start getting votes to be the Khalifa No, you are designated by this. You're chosen by the Muslims for this position. And so it is through Shura that the OMA then chooses its leadership who should be the most suitable

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before is that the Khalifa should use shorter

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where others have the right to disagree. So in other words, their DDDDD Khalifa depends on the shorter is not a dictator. And the shorter can sometimes even overrule him he should accept this, you know when he sees overwhelming evidence. Next is that when the Khalifa dies or becomes incapacitated, the his office does not pass on to his son.

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See this as a key point, the office does not pass on to his son. Okay, so that's the concept of Khalifa that we have. And the caliph

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is a model person. There's no supernatural powers that the Khalifa has. The Khalifa is a mortal human being.

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And Allah subhanaw taala has established in Surah gerat verse 13. In a Croma commander, Lloyd Cochran, that the most honored in the sight of Allah is the most righteous. That's the one

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in Surah Noor Allah tells us, Allah has promised to those amongst you who believe and work righteous deeds Alladhina, Amanu, Wamena solid hat, that he will surely grant them power in the earth is tech laugh, as he granted those before them. So this verse is showing his stick laugh. But it's those who believe and do righteous deeds, not a special family,

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not a designated group of individuals, that will be a kingdom, that will be a Persian dynasty, that will be an Egyptian pharaoh, there will be a Roman dynasty. But it's not.

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Then Allah tells us, Oh, you who believe obey Allah, His Messenger Wulan Imran Khan, and those among you trusted with authorities.

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And the prophets of salaam said very clearly in traditions that you hear and obey your leader, whoever it is,

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hear and obey.

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He did not

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directly point out and say, When I die, there's a special group of people who must be the leaders. There's no other way. This is the way of Islam. He did not say this. This is the Islamic concept of Khilafah.

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And it's important because even in our own times today, we have people who jumped up and say did Khalifa who decided you're the Khalifa. What shorter did you take? What are the qualifications that you had to actually do this?

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It's not a stick laugh. And we saw the confusion in the Middle East, behind this and we will see even later that this word the terminology has been used by other people wrongly used by people.

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And but going back to the source,

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the source is very clear. The concept of the prophetic rule that rule based upon the way of Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon it. And so the, the basis of Islam is clear. It's important to to keep reminding yourself that the concept of Allah sunnah, well JAMA, the people of the Sunnah and the major group, the body of the Muslims, that comes directly from Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings people.

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It comes directly from the hollowfibre Rashidi.

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This is the basis of it and those righteous leaders throughout Islamic history have followed this way.

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This schisms and isms and break offs and confusions that have come along or the egos of people. It is the hidden agenda. It is Toby's bliss. It is the deception of the devil, Iago Billa that has come in DDD Hayden's, that have come in the munafo pain that have come in, that's the confusion, that that crept back into the Muslim world at different points in time, much different than the concept that was delivered to us. And the only reason why one of the only reasons why Allah blessed us not to be gone into a mess of confusion is that we do have the Quran. We do have the Sunnah. Allah blessed us with this and ALLAH blessed us with Tadge deed with revival Islamic revival, that there

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would be people who would come along. And the Prophet SAW Selim said at the head of every, you know, century ROTC called the cardinal Magette did at the head of every century, 100 years, or generation would be regedit. A revival of

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The faith, what would the revival of the faith be?

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Not to change it into a different religion or a different way, the revival of the faith would bring back those principles set by the prophet peace and blessings be upon him, that can be used by people of all nations at any point in time in our history. So as we come to our conclusion here at this point, we're going slowly into this because it will start to unfold. But to understand, you know, the basis right from the beginning, that throughout the time of these 12 V moms that are there, those early periods, there is no separate group called Shia.

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There's no separate religion.

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There are people who support

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the debate, but they do not brand themselves and pray differently. And think that they are different than the majority, the JAMA, they are part of the Jama. And it's only later that the schism start to take form. And eventually, as we will see way down 15th century, you take a state form, but before this, it's no state. It's only a few individuals. And when the occult people come in the button near come in, that's another level. Then we'll see the button Nia, who found their own state. And we'll see other levels of confusion that start to come in base. But this is the base, that there are leaders of the debate. The family of the Prophet SAW Salem, there are leaders there.

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Okay, and they protect the family. And it's very important to understand the usage of debate, because people want to say a specific bloodline.

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And it is reported that in the Battle of the hunt duck in the trench, just before the battle when the companions were digging a trench to protect the northern side of Medina, from the Zap, the 1000s that were coming to destroy them.

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The Mahajan and the unser, the Muslims were digging this stretch with the hats with pics with access. It was difficult, it was cold, the ground is hot. And it is reported that solid metal fantasy radio la one

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came along. He was a strong man. He was a Persian man and he had gone through, you know, a migration and amazing life and physically he was extremely powerful. And so when the MaHA Julian saw him, they said, Sell man Midna sell man, you're one of us. You made migration, right? So you're one of us. And then the answer said no sell man Mina. He's one of us because he was from the people of Medina. Because he took his shahada accepted Islam and Medina. And the province of Salam came along in authentic tradition and said, Selma, last Selma, Mina Ahlulbayt, he is from us, He is the family. He is my family as a bait. So he used this term Ahlulbayt for a Persian man who grew up who was

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originally a fire worshiper, whose father was a was a was a priest of the fire worship, who have the years embraced Islam, who was not Arab, who learned to speak Arabic

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did not have Qureshi blood.

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But yet, he will use the term a little bit. And you'll see a little bit being used in many different ways. And it's important for us to understand what was their understanding of it? And then what is the understanding hundreds of years later, when people have agendas and their agenda of power of tribalism and ego, clouds their understanding of the deep. So as we come to a conclusion, we want to once again look, are there any questions that anybody has concerning what we've covered tonight? floor is open for any questions

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that you have answered.

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So Alhamdulillah

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I pray that Allah subhanaw taala would show us the truth Allahumma added on haka haka. What is up nativa Well, I didn't know Bartylla bartholin. What is up next Inaba. Oh Allah.

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Give us and show us the truth for being the truth can bless us with following it

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and distinguish the false falsehood.

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Show us what falsehood really is. And bless us.

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span away from falsehood.

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Allah subhanaw taala less this Muslim world, with a pure return a pure touch deed, or revival going back to the sources, to that beautiful drink of the fresh water of the time of the Prophet Muhammad SAW Selim and his companions and those first generations, may Allah bless us to be able to go back. And those who are accepting Islam will bless them not to be confused with the isms and schisms, but to drink from the fresh water of Islam, and to get the blessings of Allah in this life and the hereafter. I leave you with these thoughts. And I ask Allah to have mercy on me and you are ACARA da Juana and on hamdulillahi rabbil Alameen wa salam alaykum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh