A Muslim who left Islam Asks Dr Zakir, “If God is Uncreated, then how can we feel His existence?”

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Yeah, hi, my name is Ahmed. I come from the glorious country of Iraq, and I'm a born Muslim. My problem is that I practice Islam on our river. First we'd request question from the non Muslims. Once all the question from non Muslims over inshallah will give you a chance. Yeah, but I'm talking about probably is, but But you said your ama that you're a born Muslim, I am born Muslim, but now Are you a Muslim or not? I'm agnostic. Also, now you have left the religion of Islam. Yeah, I'm confused. Okay, fine, if you have never heard of Islam to get out of the question. Okay. So my question is, how come I don't have the faith that you and the other Muslims have and some of my

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friends, even though I practiced Islam a lot, and I even did Amara, but I still do most of the sins that are forbidden in Islam. And I sometimes I'm lazy to do the prayer and the other subjects we have to do in Islam. I have read many books and about other religions and conspiracy theories and documentaries and such I even have seen your own videos in YouTube. And there are many questions that go around my head, about Allah and the messenger and Muslims in general. And basically the the most important question is, you said in one of your debates or questions, that Allah is the Creator, and he is uncreated. But I have realized how can the uncreated exist and if he exists, how can we

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notice him? How can we see him or hear her more feel him or know of his existence is visa, uncreated in our own dimension? Also? That's one of the questions.

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With the AMA said that he is born Muslim, he comes from Iraq.

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He read the Quran, he read the books, but he commits many sins, He believes, maybe sometimes agnostic, and he lazy for praying, brother before I answer a main question,

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if you do things, and if you're lazy for praying, that does not make you a non Muslim.

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As long as you believe that praying further, sometimes you miss it's a sin. It's a major thing that you sometimes don't pray. But that doesn't make you a non Muslim.

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If you save praying is not required,

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then you're doing good.

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But if sometimes you do sin some time minus in some time, major sin, it is haram. It is forbidden, but that does not throw you outside the fold of Islam.

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There are sometimes verses of the shaitaan asking you you're a Muslim, but this is wrong in Islam, this is wrong. And it does deviate the person's mind. At that time, maybe your Eman may be low.

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But these things should not make you consider that you are not Muslim.

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regarding a question that I mentioned in my speech, and you're right, that Almighty God is the Creator, but he himself is uncreated.

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You ask the question, how can the uncreated How can we see then created?

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Now it's possible?

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Allah subhana wa Taala is Halak is the creator. And by definition, he's uncreated.

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Because normally, people say that when they try and prove in logic,

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that everything has a creator,

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who created this table, the government from very God, from the tree, who created the trees that goes back to Allah. So when many of the people tried to convince any theory, they try and say that everything has a creator, and then they get trapped. When they asked him who created Allah.

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So if you hear my tapes, I never go that way. I asked the atheist that How did you come to know about the universe? How did you come to know about the functioning of the stars of the sun? And he says,

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and goes back that the Creator, so it's the vice versa? So if you know how to deal with logic, you don't trip over this problem with the atheist trap? The Muslim or the believers, by se who created Allah by definition, Allah is uncreated.

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And if you are the question Who created Allah? If you have heard my tapes, I give the reply. That suppose a person comes and says that my brother john, Yeah, I know. I saw that I heard That's funny. But I mean, how does he exist? If he is uncreated? Not that rivella mated? Yeah. Between you and Allah, how to dig with me. He was existing

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from he doesn't have a beginning. You and I have a beginning that human being so that's the difference between us and Allah. You can say that Allah is to be like us. If Allah Allah you and me, why should he worship him? I see but have you heard of the phenomenon the big brother used by very

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His orders and political agendas to control the people in such by implementing it into multiple gods and then later on it became a monotheistic religions all over the world to make it easier.

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I've never heard of the Big Brother. It's not a religion. It's like an AI theory and idea, basically, for example,

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yes. What was the idfa? What does it say is that when you have a big brother is easier for you to live life, when you have someone watching you the whole time understanding the whole time protecting you the whole time being with you the whole time, and you can talk to him all the time. He never talks to you back maybe in your dreams do with your mind. And such, it's easier for you to live, while a human who does not have a big brother, and is not easily controlled into doing so. And having complete freedom is a danger for the major ruling powers and such. What does he say? I don't understand. Big Brother, maybe the big brother, may God be the God of it. What does it have to do

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with Islam and God? What does it have to do? Because basically, Allah is watching you the whole time. He won't let like a big brother. Indeed you use him for your protection. So you won't be scared. You know what I mean?

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So this is the hypothesis hypothesis.

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If you have heard how do I convince

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an atheist before heard my answer that you said that your agnostic atheist? Yeah, so first thing I do the annotated I congratulate him. What? I congratulate him.

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Have you on man for with this? Yeah, your congratulations for having seen your debate with the atheist. I just saw your answers on some questions where you haven't been activated? No, but I've seen your debate with David Julian Campbell. And

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yeah, now when an atheist tells me he does not believe in God like your theory of Big Brother. Yeah. And if you believe in that theory, I will ask you, first thing I do today, theists, I congratulate him, you know why? Yeah, because they think and they don't follow their parent doesn't such stuff like that? No, no, I congratulate him because he is not doing nine belief. The other people are doing blind belief. He is a Christian who the father is a Christian. He's in the book of fathers and most of the Muslims are Muslim, a father, the Muslim, he's thinking he says, There is no God. He has said the first part of the Islamic South Delilah.

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The reason I congratulate him is because he has said the first part of the Islamic Sharia, Islamic creed, La Ilaha. The only thing I have to do is in lulla, which I shall do inshallah,

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if you have heard my answer, an atheist, become an atheist, because he believes in science, he believes in logic, I asked him that if an equipment is bought in front of him, which no one in the world has ever seen. And if the question is asked that who will be the first person who will be able to tell you the mechanism of this new equipment? Well, the answer,

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of course is going to tell you the producer, the maker of the separator producer maker, so when we ask him questions, that how did this universe come into existence, he will talk about the Big Bang, this what we're going to talk is already mentioned in the Quran 1400 years ago, in Surah MBI, chapter number 21, verse number 30, Allah Mira, La Cienega faru anessa. Mahatma Gandhi, that now ma do not then believe a see that the heavens and the earth were joined together and we closed them asunder. This what you came to know 50 years back is mentioned over and 14 years ago, who would have mentioned that, while in various civilizations in like 2000 or 5000, BC, before Islam came or

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Christianity itself, there was various civilizations that are good in astronomy, and they know more about our solar system than we do now. Sadly, rather rather rather, your knowledge of science is literal, not in depth, I do agree there are certain things which were known as hypothesis. For example, for example,

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we came to know we were proved that the Earth was spherical, in 1577. I know that in sixth century BCE,

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they were I told you this who believe that the Earth was spherical. But the same Pythagoras, who believed the earth was spherical, also believed that the Earth was the center of the universe, which is wrong. You show me one civilization, which believe 100% what the Quran has mentioned. I challenge you, what you say, who do you mean to say there was a person who said okay, this civilization out of 100 things, these two things are right, or 100 things the five things are right out of this 100 and pick 10 two who can do that no one is the leader.

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Even if you know that there were 10 different civilizations, hundreds of civilizations, there is not a single civilization that you know in the past, which knew 100% of time what we know today.

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So where is your logic? Where is it?

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I do know that certain things are hypothesis which will prove later on but there is not a single civilization which knows everything what he mentioned the Quran. So the answer goes back to the original question Who could have collected this in the Quran? Someone 1400 years back could he do and say, Okay out of these under thing these three are right out of these unearthing these two are right out of this or it's not possible. Mathematically it's not possible.

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Well, you never gave the idea of extraterrestrials also. I mean, knowledge is power. And rather I'm asking a simple question. We are not committed to our debate. Yeah, I'm asking you a question point out a single civilization you're asking something else? Yeah, we are not here to discuss you can come in the room and discuss. You ask a question. I'm giving you the answer. You gave about old civilization. I told you right? But out of 100 thing 98 they were wrong. So I am asking you Who could have mentioned this in the Quran you're talking something is now Yeah, why am I doing this simple question two plus two will how much you are saying I'm telling you three multiply by three

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How much? I'm asking my name you're telling that Where do you live? Yeah, I'm asking a simple question name me a single civilization which have everything what was mentioned in the Quran?

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Do you know if any are not Yes or no? Well, not everything Of course. Even not then.

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Why Babylon knows of some most of the planets and such planet is not the only thing mentioned in the Quran. There are 1000 things mentioned in the Quran to favor 1000s information in the Quran. 10% would be equal to 100 things did Babylonian civilization knew about 100 we mentioned the Quran? No, because they knew five or six things

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in percentage wise very small.

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Who can be the author of the Quran besides the creator to know what is right What is wrong? Today science has established the hypotheses mentioned by Babylonian for many centuries back is today proven? So these are hypotheses in the past, which out of them many have been rejected, some have been accepted. So to collect all which is 100%. Correct. has to be from the creator unknowingness Hope that answers the question.