The Stories of The Prophets #17 – The Story of Adam (Pt. 5) – The Description of Adam (A.S)

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I said Imani cumbre de la hora, cassava hamdulillah salat wa salam ala rasulillah. Who is early he was so happy woman What am I bad? We are continuing on our exploration of the story of the Prophet Adam alayhis salaam, and inshallah we will not be condensing anything apparently. my remarks last week caused a whole flurry of comments online. So inshallah, don't worry, it was never my plan to condense and today will be another example of this for a because my goal isn't just to teach about the Maliki center, but also to teach you about aspects related to that. And in the process, we will learn and explore. And as they say, the sky is the limit. Pun intended if you're going to study our

topic today that does a pun that is intended. So today, we're going to start talking about what do we know about the characteristics of our Father alayhis salam, what do we know about what he looked like and other things about his physical features, and we will begin with the first Hadith which is the most exquisite heavy, and it is also the Heidi that has raised a lot of discussion, even controversies and attempts have been made to try to understand what is the meaning of this hadith. And that Hadith is the one narrated from elbow hooray rhodiola one in which he says that the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said that the first group of people that enter Jannah, will be like the

full moon, and then we'll follow them a group as bright as the brightest star, and then others will follow. And then he said, all of them will be in the form of their father Adam, 60 cubits tall, 60 cubits in the sky. This Hadeeth is in body and Muslim. So we learned from this that at MIT, his setup was 60 cubits tall. And another Hadeeth also pointed out before IRA, the Prophet sallallahu Sallam said that Allah said to Adam, that go greet those angels, and listen carefully to the reply, because their reply to you will be the greetings of you and your progeny. So Adam went to them and said As salam o Alaikum, and they replied, Why they como salam wa rahmatullah and they added

warahmatullah. And then in this Hadith, the wording is, therefore, everyone who will enter Jannah will be in the surah of them, in the form of Adam, that Allah created in 60 cubits Allah created in 60 cubits. I'll explain what a qubit is. And then the Heidi says, Why masal halka yonko. So

that the literal translation would be that the creation has ever since been decreasing in stature, the creation has ever since been decreasing in size. Now, this narration mentions that Adam was 60 cubits and it has a phrase that implies that from Adam's time, up until our time, there has been a gradual diminishing until we get to our, our height that we have now, which is a qubit. A qubit virar is this amount, okay? This is the at all okay? So from the elbow all the way to the tip of the finger, as you're aware, in early times, people did not measure in inches and feets and meters, this is later development, they would measure enhance span, this is a hand span and they will measure and

vrr. Okay, this is a bit off. And on average, there are is roughly the same, you get a rough idea. They didn't have the type of scientific measurements that we do. And so there are any an average human is like five there are, let's say, Okay, so in this Hadith, we learned that Adam was 60, there are 60 there are is roughly 90 feet, like 100 feet and our times it's like a six storey seven storey building. This isn't even like a three storey house. We're talking about a giant six or seven storeys imagine I want you to imagine and picture that. Now. Obviously, this Hadeeth I'm gonna actually pause here because it is a very, very important case study about what do we do when we come

across a narration that we find ourselves you know, scratching our heads like how do we understand how do we

Understand this, because obviously,

when we come across this narration that says that Adam was, you know, 100 feet tall, and he's 70 or 60 cubits, which is literally at 90 100 feet. Well, this, this seems it seems to clash with the reality that well, two simple realities are actually you can even say three. The first of them is that there are no archaeological remains of any civilizations or any human beings that were significantly larger than our own, and realize that we have the archaeological remains of of humans and also proto humans. Now, in a later lecture, in this series, inshallah, I will discuss the the notion of evolution. And again, just to jump the gun, I'll just tell you right now, that I do not

believe that our father Adam alayhis, Salam is linked to a species that came in earlier times, Adam was a miracle. And Allah sent Adam down at a particular point in time, and I will explain why I hold that to that belief, and why we have to do so as Muslims, because the evidence is are simply too explicit and clear in this regard. And this, this same issue that I'm talking about now, the potential clash between a text and between something outside the text, we will come back to that, and that conflict will be resolved in a different manner. Today, we're going to resolve it in a number of manners and leave the choice up to you. So I'm sitting right now, was the notion of Adam

alayhis salam being 60 cubits. And then slowly, mankind is diminishing, until we are now you know, roughly, you know, five and a half feet to six and a half feet, or the average human height is, you know, five and a half to six and a half feet. And, in fact, if you look at archaeological remains, we can go back hundreds of 1000s of years, hundreds of 1000s of years, and the bones of human beings are pretty much the same size. When you go to the the humanoid creations before that. You go to CRO Magnon, you go to Neanderthals, you go to other species that are alleged to be the precursors to Homo sapiens, they two roughly are the same size, if not a little bit shorter than us. There is no

species of humanoids that has ever been discovered. That is even eight 910 feet much less, you know, 80 9100 feet. Also, there are no archaeological, so there's no bones. There's also no structures built by any ancient civilization, that would seem that they are larger than us. In fact, the earliest structures that were built, and they go back 10s of 1000s of years, the first structure is built by man, and we have them still are around 10,000 years old, and the structures of the mood and the people of saw there and where they lived, they're still around, those aren't 10,000 years, but I'm saying we have them in Arabia, we have those those remnants, and if you go there, it is very

clear that their sizes, our size, the chambers that they walk into, that they carved into the mountains, and the and the tools that are used, we find these tools, from ancient times, they're tools that fit into the normal human hand, as well, there's the added biological reality. And that is that from a physiological and a biological perspective, the human shape as we know, it could never be proportionate, if you like to 7080 feet and remain as it is, it would be impossible, according to the laws that we consider to be scientific, it would be impossible according to the laws that we know them. And again, there is nothing impossible for a lot. But I'm saying we have to

first firstly ask ourselves, what do we do with this text? Was it a miracle if it is a miracle than we believe? So manual thought, No. But is there a way that we can rethink and that's what we're going to be doing today. So from a physiological and biological perspective, if we were to be on Earth, with the gravity that we have, and the laws of physics that we know and the laws of biology that we have accepted, it would not be possible to have a human given our modern knowledge of chemistry and biology, except that the bones would crushed under the weight of this, you know, mega tongue creature, and the heart would not be able to pump the blood and the blood vessels would burst

because of the pressures and a host of other issues. In fact, the physiology of such a giant being would necessarily transform the shape into something so radically different as to render the final being something that is not even recognizable as human. So here we get to our problem.

What do we do when it seems as if

this interpretation that the creation went from 100 feet to 90 feet to 80 feet to 70 feet to 60 feet and slow

goes all the way down. That's an interpretation, by the way, right? Again, people who get so flustered or become irritated or want to refute. Remember, this is an interpretation. We don't know yet. Are there other interpretations? That's why I'm asking you to think about and bear with me. That's the whole point here, that when we come across something that an interpretation of it seems to clash with all facts as we know them, then are we warranted to go back to the text and try to find another interpretation? And by the way, and again, before I'm flooded out, my critics want to release read the book and not realize, even hedger himself problematize. This Hadith in his

commentary is like a body, not some modern person studying from here and there. Even hedger himself says that this hadith is problematic. You Stejskal. This is in his commentary, right? It is problematic in so far as it seems to clash with the archaeological remains of previous civilizations, because they weren't 100 feet or 80 feet, and then even hydro says, and I do not know up until now, until I'm writing this I do not know how to solve this conundrum how to solve this problem. This is a been hedger SubhanAllah. So please, brothers, and they're all brothers who are doing the refuting brothers just chill, calm down. This is a serious question. It's not deviancy. We

are trying to defend the Sunnah of the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, and we're wondering, how can we understand this? Well law he if it's a miracle, semir and our partner, but is it a miracle? Is it something that is a miracle? Or are we assuming things that we don't need to assume, and this is how the whole issue comes of trying to resolve the potential conflict between an interpretation of a text and between facts that are found outside of the texts, knowledge that is obtained outside of the text. And in this case, the knowledge that is obtained is the knowledge from our archaea, archaeological studies and surveys for the remains of previous civilizations, from our knowledge of

chemistry, or physics, basic physics, you can't have 100 foot giant, you know, without the body shape being completely different. simple physics would dictate that you can't have a human of this stature. So what do you do when there's a perceived clash? And again, in this is a topic I could speak quite a lot about. My PhD dissertation was actually on this topic, the the clash of the perceived clash between reason and Revelation, what to do in turn into in case of a conflict between after a knockout and how even taymiyah solved that but my point of view much can be said here, when it comes to the Quran. We have one set of parameters because the Quran is very we know what the

Quran is, we know what the text of the Quran is, the Koran is preserved, and it is uncontested when it comes to the Hadeeth. We have actually a different set of tools we can use, and it's a different methodology. And the issue comes, what if the narrator made a mistake? What if a wording was said that was moderate interpolated? What if the listener is weak, and there's a lot of what ifs that can be raised? And again, this is an entire subject of the topic of the sciences of Hades, which was actually my undergraduate specialization when I was setting in Medina. So there were some groups there were some movements such as the mortar Zilla, who basically said, One to one extreme, and they

said, if a Hadeeth does not make sense, that we will reject it. And the problem comes who's going to decide if it doesn't make sense? The problem comes who's going to be the judge of it doesn't make sense. So because of this, the Martha's Zilla, they basically rejected all of the books of Hadith as we know them, and they will only affirm those Hadeeth that already fit in their preconceived worldview. Now, the problem with this comes is that Well, I mean, what if your worldview is wrong, right? And of course, furthermore, at Tesla, it wasn't science. It wasn't physics. It wasn't chemistry. For the Martha's it. It was issues of theology of attributes of Qatar, they had a

presumption about a law and about other and based on their presumption, they rejected Hadeeth. Now knowledge of Allah, the reality of Qatar, this is a mystery that Allah knows. And when he tells us something, how can we challenge that, however, knowledge of the laws of this world that is where we can discover and we can check, and there are plenty of examples from within our own tradition of great scholars of Hadith, reflecting, questioning and doubting a hadith that are narrated in the books, but they don't live up to the realities of the worlds that we live in. And it is well known there are many you can even write read articles in English about this. This

is called mutton criticism MIT and mutton. mutton is an Arabic word it means the text of the Hadith, the text of the Hadith, there's something called a meta criticism. This is a standard classical science, that On what basis? Can you criticize a mutton, and doubted this mutton originated from the prophets of Allah who it who was sitting on a by the way, this is a key point here that many, many innocent Muslims and beginning students of knowledge don't understand. When a scholar of Hadith when a person trained in the sciences of Hadeeth comes and says, Hey, this Hadith, it's got to be weak because of this issue in the either the is not or the mutton. And then somebody says, oh, the Billa

you're rejecting what the profitsystem said, No, not at all. Even the mortar Zilla would never say this never, no Muslim can reject what the prophet sallallahu it who was said him says, or else that person is not a Muslim, when the scholars of Hadith and the scholars of filk, and other groups like the Martha zita, when they said this hadith is not authentic, what they are saying, Listen carefully, the prophet system could not have said this, this is a mistake, there's something wrong. None of them is saying the Prophet system said it and I'm rejecting I would have been done, no Muslim can do that. Rather, what they are saying is, something doesn't add up here, something is

wrong here. Either awarding has is there or somebody is not, or something in the mutton, you know, indicates that it is not coming from the Prophet sallallahu it he was setting them and of course me personally, I'm coming from the Sunni paradigm and that affirms the books of Hadith. And overall the methodology of great scholars that came on my body. And of course, later after, and even salah and others who wrote about the sciences of Hadith. This is my methodology. I am never I have never rejected or gone beyond that. Unfortunately, as is the case, beginning students have knowledge they don't understand and the immediate are quick to judge in reality much and criticism is a core aspect

of Hadeeth methodology within mainstream soon ism, agreed the Morteza and those who reject Hadith in our times, they have taken this much larger than it needs to be. But that doesn't mean that we neglect and negate the reality. If a mutton if a text of the Hadith is highly problematic. There is a famous scholar of Heidi italien Medina, that he came across a hadith that, you know, if you eat such and such an herb, if you eat this, something I forgotten what it was that you will never get leprosy there. There was a hadith narrated in his time, and he goes, this hadith cannot be true, because we know people eat this and they still get their proceeds. So he took a reality that people

experience leprosy, and they eat this. And he said, This can't be true. Without even checking. It's not you don't need to check your forehead. It says that if you eat this, this spice or this herb or this substance, and you're not going to get leprosy, and then you see hundreds of people getting leprosy and they ate that something doesn't add up here, right. And this is Ali Al Medina, the teacher of Mr. boddy. And we have many other examples, frankly, even before I deal with Dini, the concept of rethinking through and criticizing is the met him, it goes back to the Sahaba themselves, we find the kernels of this mutton criticism. We have dozens of examples of the Sahaba saying no, no

that couldn't, that couldn't emanate. The profitsystem didn't say that. And they're listening to another companion. It's not a long chain. For our cases, we have four or five people between us and the prophets as a mother body, on average has five people to admit he has a lot of times six people and so you have this long chain. What if one person gave another wording? What if one person made a mistake? This is what is at stake here, not our order. Billa rejecting what the prophets of Allah sent him said I shouldn't be Allahu anhu this hadith is in body and Muslim I should be Allah when she heard that I'm going to said that the dead person is punished when his family members cry at his

funeral. Cry meaning whale like not cry cry like well, his the dead person is punished when the family members wail over the dead are a Chateau de la vida said may Allah have mercy on Omar rhodiola when he made a mistake. The Koran says, well, otters It was a rotten wizard or throw no soul shall bear the burden of another rather the profitsystem set and then she narrated a different headache. Now. There's a lot of discussion, people can go back and forth. I want you to concentrate on one thing. One thing I said on the last one, I heard a wording from him would have been a hotdog. And she said may Allah have mercy He made a mistake because that wording contradicts the Oran Think

about this. That wording contradicts the Quran. It can't be that he said that. Is anybody going to accuse her of rejecting the sooner rubella? No. Again, this is standard overzealousness and youth that just want to consider everybody to be a deviant and everybody's off it. It doesn't work that way. learn and study and humble yourself. There is something called method

criticism and this hadith that Adam Alexander was 60 cubits, and his generations continued to come down, down down until now we have, you know, in our times five cubits? I'm not the first to problematize it plenty of scholars. It wasn't just me even Haldane even Khaldoon said this hadith cannot be authentic, because of the and I'm not saying it's authentic. I'm saying he said that, because he could not reconcile this with the lived reality. And so the point being that the notion of mounting criticism is well known it is a part of our Sunni Islam, it's not even mortality. So the issue comes, what do we do now? When we seem to have seem to? It's because there's never an actual

contradiction between the speech of Allah and His Messenger, and between any fact take this as a rule brothers and sisters never can the actual speech of a law and something the prophets have said, Never can it contradict a known fact or reality? That's impossible, because if you did, then it would imply a contradiction. And there is no contradiction between the speech of a law and the creation of a law, rather, any such problematic problematization is something in our minds, and we need to solve and work through and the details of how we do this varies from subject to discipline and whatnot. But here we could, because we're talking about this some, this this topic, I'm trying

to point out that, yes, this is a very necessary topic to stop at. And a number of great scholars of the past actually did discuss this Hadith, the word even hydro uses is problematic, problematic, and yes, this skill or you struggle, depending how you wanna put the dish get on it, right. This is the word that he used when he's commenting on genocide Buhari, the other great scholar on MK DC, who wrote a book it I believe it will tell you that he wrote in the fourth century of the hedgerow that he wrote that many of the Muslims, they have rejected this notion that Adam alayhis salam was a giant because it is something that is not the norm. It's not something that is known to be that this

wording seems to be problematic. Now. What do we do with this with this with this issue? There's a number of ways we can do this right. And I want to refer you by the way there was a great paper that I think is going to be published soon inshallah by one of our local Dallas up and coming scholars, Mufti, one toaster is a man, he has written a paper very nice paper about this issue of the hadith of Adam, and the height of Adam, and you'll find anything online or if not, is going to be published soon. But I have access to it. He generously shared it with me a while back. So I'll summarize some of his findings as well, and add some of my own thoughts as well to this issue. Now, a number of

things can be done, when we have a wording from a hadith that seems to clash with known facts with known realities. Now, obviously, we are people of Suna. So we are not going to even talk about the mortadella position of saying we're just going to reject it ad hoc. That doesn't make sense. We have to go a little bit deeper that okay, well, where did it come from? What is the issue here? So we have where we are not following the mortality paradigm, just because my mind cannot understand it, I will reject it, we have to go a little bit deeper. And if it is really a problem, then we will figure out a way how did that problem come? And what is the origin of it. So what is to be done?

Well, with regards to with regards to this particular Hadeeth.

We have a number of different ways out there. The first is basically even hedges, even hedges philosophy. And that is, I don't know, Landry literally has nothing, I don't know what to do. And that is completely permissible and fine. The technical term for this is to walk off to work off means you just don't worry about it, don't care about it and let it be. And that's fine. No problem handed in that you are not obliged by Allah subhana wa tada to understand this heavy, if you don't know what it is, let it be, that's fine. So even hedger, he took this, he goes, I have no clue. Basically, there's a clear problem between reality as we know it, and between the explicit text or

this Hadith, so he goes, I have no idea what to do. And he left it at that, and this is a philosophy that is good, no problem. And anybody who is satisfied with Al Hamdulillah, you know, all all the best. Now, another way to do this, another way to do this, is to believe that, you know,

Allah is capable of everything. And if the heavy says that Adam was 60 cubits, then we're going to believe that you know, he was on this earth 60 cubits. And if the head he says that his his progeny continued to decrease, well, then they did continue to decrease. And we'll just assume that we haven't found their bones. We'll just assume that there were giants roaming on earth, and leave it at that. And again, that is an interpretation. And if that

satisfactory to you, then Alhamdulillah. So be it. And again, it's you yourself have to decide how do you want to approach these, these texts. Now again, if somebody were to gently push back and say, we have a continuous,

chronological, consistent set of heights have human beings in every single era and every single center in every single millennia, and there has not even been a shred of evidence of any giant or anything of this nature, much less generations of giants. Because if you were to take that interpretation, you're saying that in every generation, the creation goes down less than less than less. And that is demonstrably incorrect in the sense that at least for the last 100,000 years, Homo sapiens, our species, Homo sapiens, demonstrably, we can prove that our height is pretty much the same, it is not going up or down. If anything, actually in the last century, it's gone up slightly

because of nutrition, if anything. So in any case, that is opinion, if the if that if you're satisfied with it good for you, at home to rely on you, no, no, no concerns between you and, and Allah subhana wa, tada, the point is to find the means that you are happy with so that is a second interpretation. And that is to say, maybe they're hiding somewhere the bones, maybe this, maybe that, and we leave it and we don't. And of course, generally speaking with my utmost love and respect, generally speaking, the types of people who are satisfied with this, with this answer, generally speaking, are those who haven't studied the sciences. And they are people that are not

quite familiar with the realities of archaeology and physics and biology. And so it becomes easier for them to hold worldviews that might not be in sync with, with definitive knowledge that we know. But if it's good for them, Hey, is it good for them? hamdulillah no problem. So that's a second methodology. And that is the assumption that indeed, there were giants. And then there were smaller giants and then smaller giants. And then there were until finally they were, you know, large human beings. And then finally, they were until our size, if that's a way to do that, that's fine. A third way to do this, a third methodology. And a third way to do this is something that a number of odema

have done. Amongst them is even forrec, who is a fourth century scholar of Hadith. And also molana, Yoon Yunus, john pootie, who was a great scholar of Hadith from the Indian subcontinent of the last century, one of the greatest scholars of Hadith. And a number of other scholars have had the, and these are all Sudanese, and they're all coming from a Sunni background. They have analyzed, they have analyzed these chains in a lot of detail. And they are positing that these phrases are actually coming from a genre known as his Surat, iliacs. We talked about Australia in when we talked about the sources of the stories of the prophets, and I went into some detail. And remember I said it's

the Iliad are the the writings of the Judeo Christian authors and historians. And this is what we find in the Old Testament, in the Talmud, in the Mishnah. These are things that are written by other civilizations, the children of Israel, the Jewish people, and of course, the Christians are basically following them. So in reality, it is primarily coming from Jewish sources, the Christians did not add anything about the previous prophets, the only only thing we get from the Christians in terms of knowledge of the stories is a very sadly, his solemn recently said is the only profit we get extra information from the Christians, all the other profits, all of the knowledge comes from

the Jewish sources. So in the in the Talmud, in the Talmud, it explicitly says that Adam was a giant that Adam reached the skies is the wording that is used there. It is a Talmudic belief. It is in the Talmud that Adam reached the skies, and it is well known that

Gavin Akbar and others have the children of the rabbis, the children of the rabbis who converted to Islam, and and I mentioned this, when I mentioned many, many weeks ago, the sources of the slides of the prophets. I mentioned that back then, as they've been huddled mentioned, the Muslim civilization was still not sent, it was still new and fresh. And there was this notion that the people of the book are learned scholars, and so they would take everything they say, and absorb. And sometimes sometimes some of the narrators who are narrating from the Sahaba sometimes they would mess up and when a Sahabi would say something, and it's from the Israeli yet, the Stanbury would assume that it

is from the Prophet sallallahu it he was seldom and this is actually well known, and it is documented in a number of instances that unperson later in the

Chain made a mistake and attributed it to the profits of a seller when in reality, in reality, it is coming from the Israeli to now even fool rock. And he's writing. He's not somebody who's brainwashed by the coup fires or something at all. He had been fooled up his writing 1000 years ago, he says this notion is coming from the Surat, Viet and even for rock is a scholar of Hadith By the way, and molana, john pootie, as well, he has an entire bath, it is written in Urdu.

I speak to people to do but I cannot read or do unfortunately. So I'm I'm just making a mockery of the one who narrated this to me that Maulana john pootie has done an exhaustive it's not analysis, and he has concluded that these additional wordings about the creation diminishing, can be proven to be attributed to a particular person that goes back to the history yet, it goes back to the Israel area. Now, if we were to say this, then the whole issue is solved, the whole issue is solved. And that is that, that this is not coming from the Prophet salallahu alayhi wasallam. And I personally am very sympathetic to this, because we don't have these phrases, we do not have them in any other

chains other than these ones here. So very clear cut, if you like, you know, center of you know, all of these chains go around to this particular few individuals and the individual known as Kava bar, the individual, not the sons of the rabbi's. They were associated with this group as well. So it could be a human error where this notion comes from the Jewish sources. And then it is mistakenly not intentionally, I will I know. But you know, sometimes mistakes happen, and so mistakenly attributed to our Prophet sallallahu alayhi wasallam. And this is a very good methodology. And I like this a lot, there is yet a final one. So these are now I gave you three, we will not give you a

fourth one as well. And another group has said, another group has said that this Hadeeth can easily be understood if we simply change the meaning of when and how.

And this is very intriguing. So the problematic issue comes when does a problematic issue come? The problematic issue comes that if you think that the mighty his Salam was walking on this earth 100 feet tall, and that his children were 95 feet and then 93 in the 92 in the 90 and then that is problematic from both archaeological and biological and physical. I mean every single aspect it is it is problematic. So what if we were to say, What if we were to say that Adam was

90 foot 100 foot tall in Jenna engine, there is no gravity, it's a totally different place. And so everything changes in gender, there are no archaeological remains in gender. And when he came down to this earth, Allah subhana wa tada made him into the size that he is now Allah Subhana Allah made him five foot five, six foot five hours that the average height of man because obviously in genda, he is going to be different biologically even clearly any agenda is going to be something else that he is now Allah created him right then and there in general. And he comes down to this earth, and he is the size that he is. And then the phrase one masala hollow Korean Khufu, instead of translating

it as, and the creation has continually diminished in size until now, you translated as, and the creation has remained noctus in height has remained short in height until now. Now, this interpretation, I agree, it's not the first one that comes to mind. But is it invalid linguistically? Is it incorrect from a linguistic paradigm from a linguistic hermeneutical paradigm and their responses? No, it's not. You can affirm the authenticity of the Hadith. And you can say that yes, maybe the Prophet system said this because he this hadith in Bukhari and Muslim and that's the whole point, you know, we are people I am a person we respect body and Muslim we respect by the

way to be very clear here. Nobody is saying this is a Muslim is like the Quran. Nobody should say that. But we say and I say and I believe that the most authentic book after the Quran is labeled as a Muslim, no doubt about that. But does this mean that we cannot open this door like we do, like we're doing right now, right now, this heavy theism body and Muslim that

the creation continues to diminish in size, while masala yonko Sweden and well are we allowed to rethink through we had great Roma in the past even say this Hadeeth it ends

From the start yet it is not from the mouth of the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam. Okay, that's there you find it people said that you had other scholars say it's not authentic, which is basically the same thing. It's not authentic. Right? By the way, just for FYI, there have been a very small handful of Hadith in Bukhari and Muslim that have been challenged by mainstream aroma within Sunni Islam. But generally speaking, 99% of the Hadeeth in body and maybe 95%, of Asian Muslim, generally speaking, they have remained unchallenged. And that shows you the status of these two books. And as somebody who has studied these books, and has a jazz that in them and has known, and then done a lot

of study, I also am of this school and philosophy that believes that these two books really are

as authentic as humanly possible. But still, just because they're as authentic as humanly possible. It does not mean that every single phrase in every single Hadith emanated from the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, and we do have the right. If we follow the proper methodology, as I'm doing in this lecture, we do have the right to rethink and re analyze and wonder, Is there an alternative? So the this alternative or this fourth position as a very interesting one, and that is that it says that, indeed, the profitsystem did say because the third position says he didn't say it. It's the Iliad, and accidentally mistakenly one of the narrators and Madonna, john Porter goes

into a lot of detail with all of the chains and charts and everything. One of the narrator's mistakenly attributed to the prophet SAW Selim, and in reality, it is from Gao, bar and the other and the other source of Australia. position number four is saying, the prophet system said it but you guys are taking one interpretation, and it is possible to take another interpretation, and that interpretation is, that was indeed 60 cubits in Jenna.

He came down to this earth, the normal size, and he remained and his progeny remained, knockers and height deficient in height up until now, okay, so why Masada does not mean that it continuously decreased generation after generation, but rather that the decrease in height was continuous, that no gender and there and by the way, what what what confirms this interpretation is that the context of the highlight is what the context of the Hadith is, when the people enter Jannah they will enter Jannah at the height of Adam 60 cubits. So then the question arises Hold on a second, Adam was 60 cubits, we're going to enter agenda and 60 cubits what happened in the middle. And this hadith says,

The Hulk is noctus. Throughout all of this in the middle from Adam until Jenna, the entire generations are going to be Narcos. Now, did anybody interpret the head this way? Yes, they did. The famous scholar of the mandolin wildly me, he interpreted it this way, he is the famous scholar of Yemen, who also by the way, went to India, and studied in India for a long time and learned Hindi as well, when he was in India, this is around 200 and 110 years ago, that also the Indian scholar and worshop, Kashmiri also interpreted it this way, in our times moved with money. And again, all of these scholars, you know, they are also considering the wordings of this Hadees to be

interpretations to be problematic. What do we do, it doesn't make sense, according to the knowledge that we have. And so most detector if money has his commentary on this Hadith,

and he goes into detail, and he as well concludes that this hadith can be understood that the Hulk or the creation has remained short in stature up until our times and

this interpretation actually, a number of years ago, a decade ago, I taught a class on cyber hottie which has not been recorded. And and not the whole book went over sections and I went over this Hadeeth and in my own research, I had it up until that point in time,

shift Kashmiris and multiple Earth monies, I did not have those books and I did not know why leave me had said this. But I came to this conclusion on my own. And then I later on discovered that in fact, why Lemmy and Shia Kashmiri and move the topic of money have said this. So it made me very happy that this fourth interpretation was the one that I thought that this was the one that we were going to have to do. Because to be honest, the third interpretation opens up a can of worms. And it is problematic when you say that a hadith in Bukhari and Muslim is coming from Australia, there's no doubt that it does open up a can of worms and it's Pandora's box and it's probably best not to go

there. But still anybody who says that, and I quoted you somewhere onyema who did there are following standard or solid headed practices. It's not outside of the of the point of deviancy now. Therefore, to conclude this point before we move on, therefore,

the Maliki Salam was in all likelihood

much taller than we are. However, somebody denies this and says no, this is from this idea. Well, there are people that have said this from within Sunni Islam. And so, if that is the case, then we will remove this from the description of Adam. But as it stands, what I can say that it is, it is highly possible and probable, it is a hadith in Bukhari and Muslim that Adam it his Salam was 60 virar, that Allah created him in Jannah. Allah created him in Jannah in a much larger fashion and form and when we enter Jannah inshallah, tada, we will also be in a larger body and form and in another Hadith that people have Johanna will also be in a larger body and form. So all of this makes

sense this is in the hereafter. And in the pre creation, all of this makes sense. In this world, the mighty his Salaam, and all of us are at a similar level, similar height to this is the interpretation that I have analyzed, knows best. Okay, what else do we know about other bodies.

The other thing that we that has been mentioned in a hadith that has been disputed, is that Adam alayhis salam was a very hairy person, that his his hair on his head was dense. And we learned this in a hadith that is reported by even to be hired to minister of seed it is not in the famous books, it is not even in the tertiary books, it's actually one of the more obscure books of Hadith you don't generally find a hadith is one is not. And

some of the scholars have said it's weak, and some of the scholars have said it is has center just about acceptable, even hedges that it is hasn't, for example, and this is obey, you've been kept narrating from the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wasallam that Adam was a very tall man, as if you were a towering data tree. So this hadith also mentions he was a tall man, as if he was as if he was retiring. Detroit is not 60 cubits a towering de tree is around 20 cubits 30 cubits, with a lot of hair on his head, with a lot of hair, what kind of shadow his shot was dense. And when he committed his mistake is our became clear to him. And he had never seen it before. So he ran away inside

Jenna, but a tree held him he said, Let go of me, but it replied, I shall not let go of you. And his Lord said, Oh, Adam, are you running away from me? And he said, My Lord, I am ashamed in front of you. Now, this hadith.

Some scholars have said it is huson. I personally am skeptical of this, but again, who am I in the face of major giants, but the wording of the Hadith has details that are not found in any other narration. Nonetheless, for those who consider this hadith to be authentic, the phrase is he had a lot of hair, Qatif a shout, His hair was very dense on his head. The third thing that our scholars have said about Adam it his Salaam. The third thing that they have said, is something that is not explicit, it is not explicit, but rather it is derived, it is something that is understood. And that is that Adam alayhis salam must have been exceedingly handsome, he must have been a paragon of

beauty, shining beauty, where do they get this from? How do we Is there any Hadith about this, because use of it so that we know that you know and of course, this is a

method of speaking he was given half of beauty. This does not mean that literally half half light, it's the expression that he was so beautiful, it is as if all of the creations beauty is in half and one person use the very same as in half. So, how do we derive or how did many scholars derive that Adam it his Salaam was exceedingly handsome? they derive this from a number of verses and common sense as for the verses, Allah subhana wa tada says in sort of sort of a clean that what are the Holocaust insanity is any talk when that we created man in the best of all forms, and Allah subhana wa tada fashioned Adam with his own hands, right? So for either so way to who Allah is saying, once

I have fashioned him, so can you imagine a lot xojo himself directly fashioning Adam and Allah subhana wa tada taking charge of the creation of Adam, then surely, that work, that is directly Allah is in charge of it, clearly, he is going to be the best he is going to be the US and as the senator Quinn and Allah says in the Quran, so what opened for us and also that he shaped you, and he perfected your shape he perfected it. If this is for all of us, then how about the one whom Allah Himself directly shaped and directly took charge of and

the scholar a Swahili

Said commenting on use of having been given half of beauty that he said that that this means that Adam says Allah created him with his own hands, that none of the creation could could compare to Adam in beauty. So it is as if he is saying that look, if you serve has been given half of all beauty. So the scholar has to Haley saying This means the Our Father, Adam would have had pretty much the full beauty, because Allah created him directly. And this is a very interesting point that I don't have any problem accepting and believing is a very nice point because it makes complete sense. In the end of the day, Allah azza wa jal directly created Adam and breathed the roar into him

and fashion him with his own hands. And so clearly, there must be something special about the form of Adam alayhis, salam, and all of our genes and all of our DNA, it goes back to our father Adam. And so clearly the imagine the best of the best, all of it is going to be embodied in our father, the mother has set up, we have one very long topic, which I cannot start right now, because it is a very long topic, but it is something we'll discuss next time. I'll just bring it up very quickly. Right now, another aspect that is a point of controversy. And we're gonna kind of go into a lot of detail in this controversy, but inshallah I'll go over it briefly. And that is that the form of

Adam, so we're talking about the characteristics of Adam, was he tall was the hairy, was the handsome all of this. Now we have one other issue, but because it's so long, I don't want to cut it in half. So I'm going to just mention it and then inshallah we'll take our, our break for today, and then come back. Next we can show a little data. And that is the form or the shape of Adam, because there's another Hadeeth that tells us a phrase that has generated controversy, even within a listener, but the controversy is really not over his authenticity or not. It's about how do we understand the Hadith? How do we understand this Hadith, and that is the famous phrase that is found

in Bukhari and Muslim that Allah created Adam in his image, Allah created Adam in his image. Now, image here means form shape in his image or shape. Now, obviously, this Hadeeth from the very beginning of time, from the time of the Tabby rune and Tibet, Tabby rune has generated a lot of discussion and debate. What does this mean that Allah created Adam in his image, and we will inshallah, bring up this topic and summarize it, because I can assure you this topic is one that actually scholars have written entire books about, and the famous roadmap of the past, you know, from, called the Buddha to even for up to 32, even taymiyah. They have all have detailed

discussions, and it is one of the controversies over the attributes or the sifat. And, you know, that's my area of expertise. I have an entire Master's dissertation on the sifat controversy from Medina. That's all that I did. But that's not the subject of our Adam series. So I will summarize it very briefly next week in sha Allah so that you're aware that this is there, because the question arises, what does it mean? Allah created Adam in his image, and we'll talk about that in sha Allah tala. Next week. We did it Tada. Until then, I will see you later it was said on YT rahmatullahi wa barakatuh. Yeah

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