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I said I want to come to LA who are a cartoon Alhamdulillah wa Salatu was Salam or Isla Mala and maybe a bad my barn. Welcome back to another q&a on our Tuesday episodes. And as usual, please continue to send send me your emails and your questions at ask why Q at Epic Masjid dot O R G that is ask why Q one word at Epic messages, one word, dot O R G. And please try your best to keep the questions as generic as possible. And make sure that you just mentioned a name that I can mention online and also a place that you're emailing are from so that I can also mention geographic location. And once again, please do understand I cannot respond to individual emails, I

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Alhamdulillah inundated with hundreds of emails and I have to simply choose the ones for our broad based audience to answer here in this lecture, so I cannot answer specific emails or else I don't have the time to do that along with Stein along with Stein, in any case, inshallah today, disclaimer that this is a live q&a That will be somewhat sexually explicit. And so Viewer discretion is advised. And I would suggest that only those who are above the age of 15, listen to this, or you know, if they're mature, 1314 years old, definitely not, you know, no need for the younger children to listen to this one. So this is an email that I got from Sister Alia, and she is graduating from a

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high school here in America. She's in her final year of high school. She's a teenager, a young lady. And she is saying that in her syllabus in her school, there's a lot of discussion regarding the LGBTQ movement and issues. And in particular, she says regarding transgender issue now trying to transgender issues. And she emails, you know, saying that, she understands that, you know, Islam has its own views on the subject. And so in order to summarize her email, she wants to know how we, as Muslims should view this entire spectrum, and also how she as a person in a particular high school here in America, how she should interact to a lot of her classmates are identifying with one of

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these letters. And, you know, she's wondering, well, what should she do as a Muslim in a high school? And in particular, she says that the trans question has really been brought up quite a lot in her class. And there are people that identify within this spectrum. And so she's emailing me for some spiritual, you know, advice and Islamic illumination in this topic.

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Now, this is a very, very, very sensitive topic. These days, as we're all aware, these types of discussions are easily misunderstood. And people that are very rich and powerful and famous have been what is called canceled because of because of saying things that are deemed to be politically incorrect. And this shows us the sensitivities around this entire topic. In fact, many are pointing out that these sensitivities are actually bordering on

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curbing or not allowing a discussion of an academic nature, even and very famous professors have been disinvited from universities simply because they might have tweeted something about this subject that is deemed to be controversial, as we're also aware, you know, even very famous authors, the the author of the Harry Potter series, for example, also tweeted something that was deemed to be incorrect, and it will cause a huge, you know, debate online, and this is a subject that our younger students our next generation is asking, and so we cannot remain quiet to be honest. And I seek Allah's help and, and protection from an evil that might happen in the end of the day. We as

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especially those who have trained in the Islamic sciences, it is our duty and responsibility to clarify to mankind regardless of the consequences, so I ask Allah subhana wa Taala for his Hidayat interfere Can I ask Allah for his protection? In the end of the day it is our job to clarify what Islam says. And if we are truly sincere to the religion of Allah, then we must take in the criticism of their criticism is incorrect, greatest criticized

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and face the consequences, but at the same time that does require, Allah does not ask us to be foolish Allah asks us to be wise and to speak in a way that bility hear us and which ideal home bility he is. And I say all of this because we are also seeing a counter reaction. And this is a prelude to the entire conversation and the entire question, what we are seeing is an entire spectrum of response to this question of the LGBTQ and how we deal with it. On the one hand, we have some people of our faith and background, who seem to acquiesce to the pressure around them, or maybe because they're not grounded in Islamic sciences are not really aware of what the Shetty says, or

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they don't understand what Islam came with, that they feel that if popular society is allowing it, then they too should allow it. And so they fall into this, believing that Islam justifies this entire spectrum. And that is, of course, extremely incorrect. And it shows a lack of knowledge and perhaps a lack of commitment, even like our job is to submit to what our Sharia has come with us what the goal of Islam is. So that is one extreme. You also have the other extreme in which people seem to think that proclaiming the truth means that we speak in the most vulgar manner, and in the harshest manner, and in the most unwise manner. And they think that bravery is the same as

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foolishness that so that the more foolish one is, and the more harsh one is, this is what the *ty out requires. And this two shows, not to lack of commitment, but I will say it shows a lack of knowledge, really, it shows a lack of experience as well, because again, generally speaking, we find that this type of mentality, in particular, amongst what is typically called the Internet warriors, because they don't do this in their own corporations. By the way, they don't do this in actual real life. But they take comfort in the anonymity of the internet, or perhaps in the fact that the internet is something that they can simply type on their computer screens, and they don't have to

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deal about in the real world. And so they act in an extremely unwise manner, thinking that Islam asks them to preach the truth in a manner that is not meant to convince people, but rather, perhaps turns away people. And if you look at our Prophet Lupe Alayhis Salam, who was sent to a nation that was engaged in the height of this immorality, the first nation that publicly accepted this immorality, why don't we look at the language he used, and the interactions he had with his people, he lived in a land and in a city where this was the norm, and he must have interacted with them and bought and sold his goods and foods and get all got along in society. You have to if you're living,

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you know, with people that you disagree with, you still have to get along with them at the social level. And when he criticized them, he used a language that got the point across, for example, in one famous verse, he said, In nearly American middle Colleen, that I am against the actions that you do, these actions that you do, I don't like them. And so he kind of distinguished not that not that theoretically, there is a distinguishment between the sin and the sinner, as some Christians saying the end of the day, we as Muslims,

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we don't fully distinguish between the sin and the sinner, because when the sinner commits the sin, the sin does exist within the sinner. And so to be a little bit philosophical, there is no sin without the sinner committing the sin. So when we don't like the sin, we're also not liking one aspect of the sinner who's committing the sin. But we can also appreciate the good of the sinner as well. The point being when you're speaking to the sinner, when you're interacting with those that are involved in fashion, evil, there is a way in a language that it will be the most effective, and the Sharia asks us to be the most effective. This is very clear in the Quran, and in the

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interactions of the Prophet salallahu arsenal with the Quran that only those that are obstinate and arrogant should we repel with a type of you know, anger and harshness, otherwise, the general public that is unaware of the truth of Islam, the general public that don't really know our faith, we have to preach in the best of manners and the wisest of words. And I say this because, you know, our problem is we have this group of, you know, disgruntled, you know, youngsters that are very vicious in their attacks against most of the mainstream clergy, most of the mainstream preachers, because they view the mainstream preachers as being not harsh enough. And in reality, these preachers are

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inshallah embodying the prophetic model, the way that we're supposed to interact and preach and teach. You get the message across right without insulting the person that you're trying to get the message across to. So I say all of this as a disclaimer, because our young sister is emailing and she wants an answer and the answers that my

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Self and many will give will be in sha Allah embodying the values of Islam couched in the language that the Shetty eye wants us to interact with. And I hope that even in this there is a lesson even in this there is a, a teaching moment of how we preach the truth unto others that was all the more Kadima or the introduction. Now, our sister asks that, you know, how should we, as Muslims understand this entire trend of the LGBTQ plus, you know, movement. And to respond to this, I began that the first thing that we should always do is, understand where these things are coming from, what is the origin, you know, of these types of trends, because all too often, we don't really

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understand that much of what is being discussed is actually relatively very recent, it's not something that was defined in most of human history. In fact, to classify oneself or to classify a human being based upon their sexual preference is actually an extremely modern phenomenon, I want you to understand this point, right. So all of these the L is, you know, a lesbian, G is gay, B is bisexual. So, these are, you know, your sexual preferences, who are you attracted to? Right, what type of partner do you want to be with, to classify a human being based upon their choice of sexuality is actually an extremely modern phenomenon. And one wonders that why is this preference

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why is this part of one's identity being made to be so important that it becomes the defining characteristic, and it becomes something that you should actually have a label for, and categorize people under and this is something that one should also look at, in with respect to another phenomenon, and that is the fluidity of sexual preferences, ie it is well known and well documented, that one's preference. So let me let me and again, this is an adult topics are allowed me to be a little bit explicit here, that Allah created us differently. There's no doubt about that. And even when it comes to intimacy, let's say normal heterosexual intimacy, some people have certain

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preferences over others, I'm talking about normal married couples, right? Would you take a sexual preference? Would you take something that you are attracted to, you know, that turns you on more that you prefer a position that you prefer, or something that you fetishize that might be highlighted even because I have a longer talk, you could listen to it about, you know, what is highlighted what is not held in the bedroom? Much of it is halal, right. But some people might like certain things, others might like other things that Allah has allowed much spectrum of Halal in the bedroom. Now, would it be something that you think is normal to categorize a human being based upon

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their sexual preference? Based upon which specific issue they like more than others? Does that make sense? I mean, it's something that I have a particular like in cuisine, I like a particular color better than others? Is this a defining characteristic that I should be calling myself The Videography person? I like biryani more than I like, you know, another dish? For example, think about it. Why is this personal preference becoming so important that an entire identity is being created out of it? Even if we were to say that a particular person is attracted to the same or to the opposite? Is it really something that is so more so important, definitively that it should be

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extracted out and a label be put on the person that this person should identify? And if we look at history, in reality, this is an extremely relatively late phenomenon, it actually begins literally, in the last generation, or even in the generation when I was a child growing up, basically. So it's really kind of sort of our own generation. Of course, I'm not saying that

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same sex intimacy is unheard of, of course, you know, back to the time of the Prophet, nobody has done him it was well known. And historically, I'm simply speaking historically, that generally speaking throughout almost all civilizations and cultures, especially those of the Judeo Christian Islamic heritage, the Abrahamic heritage, that such acts as actions were deemed not just immoral, but actually illegal that for the bulk of history of Judeo Christian, Western civilization, and Eastern civilization, that people who are engaging in these actions and were caught would actually be punished by the law. This is in western lands up until relatively recent times. And the rise of

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this movement really began. I mean, technically, one can say that 90, late 1970s, early 1970s. But in reality up until the 80s, mainstream society did not view these trends as being something to be embraced. Rather, they felt that these were trends that should not be put

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Besides, even if somebody is engaging in it don't make it center of attention. What's happening behind closed doors, I mean, not everything needs to be publicized. This was the norm when I was growing up in the 80s. And the term itself, the terms itself that were used to describe these actions were actually pretty harsh if you like sodomy, or burglary, or these types of things. It was only relatively recently where a German psychiatrist invented the term homosexual, to make it more sound more scientific. And in the 1960s, that movement embraced the term gay because they thought that it was more positive and less shameful. And then with the advent of the women's rights in the

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1970s, the female equivalent wanted a term specific for them. So they coined the term lesbian, this term did not exist until the 70s. They coined the term lesbian from the mythological island of Lesbos, in which apparently there was a famous poet who was attracted or she was a female, she was attracted to women. So there's a famous poet, so they kind of crafted a term from this. And then afterwards, in the 70s 80s, the term bisexual was also made popular, the meaning attracted to both genders. And then once again, in Germany, for some reason, a lot of this is going back to Germany, the term transvestite was also used when sex change operations began. And this is again relatively

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recent in this century of ours. Now the term LGBT was first coined, it is said around 1988 89, relatively recent I was in high school at the time. So it's not that that you know, that old and what historically what happened was these various trends, so lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender, these various trends decided that they should cooperate together to try to achieve respectability and normalcy in society. Because as we all know, historically, or we should know that each of these trends is of course distinct. And generally speaking, they were not viewed as mainstream, they were not viewed as being within the norms of morality, even if they existed

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underground, they existed, you know, behind closed doors, but there's no need to popularize them. So in the late 70s, early 80s, trends, these trends decided to come together. And to become very public, the term coming out of the closet became popular that we should tell people that we are like this, and we should have acceptability. And as more and more trends decided to join this, this entourage or this bandwagon, so the terms began to be expounded. Until there was a point where there was something called LGBTQ q ip to S A, this is actually a term here, lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, questioning, queer, intersex, pansexual, to spirit, androgynous asexual, all of these

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are there. And then it was just decided LGBTQ IA or maybe LGBTQ plus, and the plus here means everything else, the plus here means basically, everything else now.

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We should be aware, and I'm speaking again to this question is asked by a teenager in high school. So once again, I'm trying to explain, we should be aware that the DI D default of mankind, the way that Allah created us, of course, is male and female. And the way that Allah created us the default is that opposite genders attract and that marriage takes place and that within marriage intimacy occurs, and that from that intimacy, families are formed and that families become the nuclear unit of society. This is the norm throughout all of human history, and it is it was enshrined in laws for the bulk of human history. This normative understanding is called hetero normativity, hetero

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normativity. And this is the claim that the default and preferred biological norm is to be heterosexual. Now, hetero normativity is considered to be a bad thing by modern culture. But the Abrahamic faiths are heteronormative. So here is the fundamental clash that to say what I have just said that the default is that God created man in male and female, and that Allah azza wa jal intended for the opposites to attract and get married, and have children and remain intimate only within that marriage, that to even say this is considered a type of hate speech, even to say this and believe it. So to believe therefore, that opposites attract and that's the way it should be, has

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become in the modern vernacular, something that is deemed to be hateful, and that is their worldview. And another term that you should be aware of, is a

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cisgender and cisgender is a term that is used to indicate that the gender you identify with is the same as the gender assigned to at birth. So there's something called biological sex you are male or female. And then there's something called Gender, how you identify. And once again, from the Abrahamic traditions from the Bible and the Quran, the old the New Testament and the Quran, from religious traditions, the gender you're born into, the gender you're born with, a male or female, is the gender that you have for the rest of your life. And we're going to come back to this point as well. However, once again, the normative understanding, biologically and

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religiously, is now being challenged. And to make this statement, once again, is being deemed to be hate speech. So to be heteronormative, or to be promoting cisgender, ism, these are all technical terms. That basically means you are biologically saying what most of mankind set for the bulk of its history. But to claim this is to somehow be a part of the hateful movement against the rest of mankind, what we are being taught, and perhaps, you know, this is something your syllabus is also teaching you is that

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the notion of heterosexuality being the norm is something that has been reinforced via social beliefs, politics, religion, policies, and media, and that it is time to challenge this, this is what the new movement is saying, that we have to challenge this notion of heteronormativity. And we should try to shake up this reality and understand that gender is something you have the right to choose, you can adapt to any of this spectrum because you are an individual that is free to make any choice that you want.

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Now, this is of course, something that we as Muslims, frankly disagree with, and we say that Allah azza wa jal very clearly in the Quran says that He created you from a male and female and from these two he spread forth multitudes of men and women by Theremin humare. Gel and Kathy run one is

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and Allah Subhana Allah to Allah says in the Quran that wala teman Noma football Allahu be Heba Docomo Allah about literally jolliness Cebu Mactan Cebu, Wali Nisa in Cebu mimic the seven that do not desire to have what Allah has given the each over the other and this is the verse is about genders. And Allah is saying that do not be, do not be delirious, do not want to have the perks and blessings of the other each one has literally Giardino see what it is in Aussie. Men have their share whatever Allah has given them, and women have their share whatever Allah has given them. So each of the two genders has basically a type of default gender roles, and a type of default of the

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Sharia. Now, again, much of these gender roles can be negotiated, they're not obligatory, but there is a default of what is expected of the genders. And there is a default in the Shetty of what their genders should and should not do. The entire books are filled basically, almost from beginning to end have minor differences in law, about purification, you know, and about prayer rituals, and about fasting and about Hajj, and about inheritance and about marriage and about divorce. Now throughout all of this, these differentiations indicate that there is a reality difference between these two genders. That having been said, This distinction is not meant to prefer one over the other the Quran

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is very clear what at the time and know that don't prefer what one has been blessed over the other men have and women have. And Allah says that will document about them, the two of you are from each other. And Allah says that whoever does good male or female, I shall give them the reward that they deserve. And so the Quran is very clear, men and women are spiritually equal. The two are not more or less human, they have the same potential to enter Jannah they have the same equality in the eyes of Allah as human beings. However, Allah created men and women biologically different psychologically different physiologically different intellectually and emotionally. Each one has

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perks that the other does not have. It's not that one has more than the other. No, it's that they are different. Just like we can understand that two human beings to twins, if one goes to medical school and one goes to architectural school for 10 years, and they practice and whatnot, their minds are going to be different, their talents are going to be different, and therefore they're going to have

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different roles? Well, if this is something that you can train, how about that? Which is biologically embedded? How about that which are born with the XX chromosome, the X, Y chromosome? How about your genitalia? How about your hormones, Allah created the two differently, is it therefore surprising that as a default, the Sharia has come with a gender norm as well, that the woman, the mother, the husband, the father, there are certain things that they are sometimes required to do, the father is required to maintain and pay, you know, money to the wife into the children, and sometimes it is understood and the Sharia encourages, but does not make binding. So

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all of this being said, the claim that hetero normativity and cisgender ism is something that should be opposed and is unnatural, that is their claim. For us. It is biologically and rationally and historically and religiously the norm, and there's nothing wrong with this. So one point, however, that quite a lot of people ask is that how about, you know, people who are not male or female, and they are born with maybe, you know, chromosomes that are in, you know, somewhat both? And this is something that the Sharia does give a slight exception to, and that is called Hamza, Hamza, and Hamza in English is called intersex. So, in this term, LG BT q i right, by the way, so in case

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somebody is not aware, so L means obviously lesbian, and that is, of course, you know,

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a woman attracted to a woman or a woman being with a woman, I'll g of course is gay means male attracted to a male B is bisexual mean sometimes male, sometimes female, depending on what they're attracted to. The term q by the way, people have done themselves different What is it over? Some say that q should mean queer to keep the term because it was a term that was used back in the 70s and 80s. And some say q means questioning that you're still questioning all U L or U G, or or UB or something else, right? So this is que te we're going to come to because our sister specifically asked about T transgender, LGBTQ i A so this AI is intersex that's what this intersex is I and

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intersex is the only one of this entire you know long string of letters and different letters of the alphabet is the only one that the Shetty has given a certain acceptability to in that yes, it does exist what is Ay ay is intersex and intersex is somebody who is born with biological sex characteristics that aren't clearly male or female. Now, intersex itself is a very, very rare phenomenon, perhaps 1% out of you know, several 100 people perhaps you know 1% would be categorized as intersex and even within this there are around 40 Plus variations of intersex so basically little bit less than in biology and I'm no biologist teacher so forgive me for being simple, but I don't

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want to you know make any mistakes. Obviously, the default of mankind 99 point something percent of mankind are either born x x, which is woman female or x y which is male. So, x x is female and x y is male, this is like 99 point something percent of mankind 1% or less, they have a permutation x x y x y y x x. So, they have x xx they have multiple permutations which is considered to be not the norm this is less than 1% This is intersex and there are 40 Plus such variations. Now, the majority of those born within these variations are so trivial that they don't even know that they have an issue until they become older and age and something happens either they are not able to have

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children or you know, their genitalia is not developing normally or something of this nature you know maybe they don't have you know, if a woman she doesn't have her menstrual flow when medical exam is done is discovered oh she is particularly like this, but they live their lives looking, acting, talking and being one of the two genders there is only a very very very small group of people. That is called complex intersex that's very true gonna model intersex and it's called that and this is extremely rare Don't Don't quote me but I think is 0.001 present very, very rare, in which there are both ovarian and testicular testicular tissues, you have a little bit of male and

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female. This is also called True hermaphrodite. or, excuse me, I'm not a biologist. Her math ro defeatism true hermaphroditic ism. This is what is called in the Shetty. I can tell you the shady terms with much more ease here.

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On almost kill the difficult hermaphrodite This is where perhaps both origins can be visible biologically, and this is the one category intersects overall and the content which can in particular, where the Shediac has said that, if an operation needs to be done, then yes, it may be done that if

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one of the two genders you know can be preferred over the other, then that should be taking place no problem. And so, there is some leeway given but even for this category, the Shediac says that one of the two needs to be chosen, and then defaulted for the *ty our purposes, so, that person will be treated like one of the two genders until they pass away. And so, this is the intersex category. And as I said, they are the ones whose actual, you know, DNA, the biological characteristics are different, and they are not simply xx, nor are they xy, their sexual chromosomes are varied. And that category, much can be done surgeries if hormones need to be done, that's a very unique

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category. And they are known by testing and sometimes at birth. But as I said, sometimes they aren't even aware until they themselves are older. So and by the way, this term LGBTQ I a, what is a by the way, I forgot to mention a, a is for asexual, that those who don't find themselves attracted to any sexual orientation. And if a person is asexual, there's no problem in that. So there's no need to put it in this in this long list. A person is not required to get married, and a person can live a life without any partner. So there's no problem from a *tier perspective to be the A in this and there's no need to make this any issue. If a person has no desires whatsoever. And there are a few

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people that are like that, they may just live their lives as a single human being, or if they want to find a partner of the opposite gender who has a similar and they are aware of the situation. And they want to live like this no problem that is also possible. By the way, just FYI. So this plus at the end, right? It basically means a whole spectrum of things. The last time I checked, there's something called you know, well, I don't want to mention the website. But there are websites out there that talk about these things for for purposes.

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of education, I looked I logged on to this a few weeks ago to prepare a lecture. The plus category when I logged on last I checked, it had more than 214, nine different categories of them. Just to give you an idea is pansexual. Someone who can feel sexual attraction to any person in the spectrum of them is gender queer, someone who doesn't identify with either male or female, their identity doesn't fit in with what society has deemed male or female of them is gender fluid, someone who feels their identity changes, depending how they feel. There's a third gender, there's a demo gender, a week, or partial connection to one gender. So if a boy sometimes feels like a girl, that

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would be a demeyere. Girl, there's by gender, Pan gender, a gender, and I can go on and on and on. So that plus category is simply an indication of lots of different, you know, fine differences between this notion of how one wants to identify. Now, my point being from the shifty eyes perspective, and I've given longer talks about this.

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We look at sexuality in a very different manner. Sexuality is a gift from Allah when it is used properly. And it could be a test if it is used improperly. And the fact that we have sexual desires as normal, there's nothing wrong with that. And Allah created us upon the default, and the default is to be attracted to the opposite gender. And we're supposed to control that default until we get married, and use that sexual energy to solidify the marriage and to have children and to maintain a happy bond between couples. That's the ideal and the norm, does not mean that no alternatives exist, of course, they do exist. And throughout human history, there have been aberrations, these

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aberrations don't need to become the norm, nor should they need to be publicized more than it needs to. And if a person falls into one of them, and commits a sin that is between that person and Allah, they don't need to make a normative tradition about it. There are things that happen that shouldn't happen. Adultery happens, it shouldn't happen. If it does happen. Should we go and publicize it? Should we make a category of people these are the adultery people and they're identifying as a adultery people and we want people to accept them because they're engaging in adultery. You know, sometimes if a indiscretion happens, we ask Allah for forgiveness as between us and Allah, but to

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propagate it like adultery. Let's make adultery the norm. Let's say Right, let's make this something a part of this entire spectrum. Let's put a category for those that commit adultery. Why should anybody disrespect us consenting adults, our society has not yet deemed adultery to be acceptable. So it's not on this list. We understand it doesn't make any sense to publicize this at

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As a category, we should understand the same applies to every other aspect, especially the LGBTQ as for intersex is beyond their control. As I said, it's not something that anybody should be ashamed of a look, you know, created in that way, and they're able to allow surgery or whatnot. So our sister asks about the gender the term t, in particular, transgender. And transgender is a very broad term. And it has underneath it many categories. But the main aspect that unites all of them is that a transgendered person is not content with their biological sex that they're born into, as I said, that movement differentiates between gender and sex. So you're born with a biological sex male or

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female, then they say, you might identify with a gender as you grow up, you can choose your gender, As for us, your gender should be the same as your biological sex. If Allah created you, you know, xx, or Allah created you x y, then your gender and your sex are either male or female. And for only the intersex people that less than 1%, we can, you know, do surgeries if need be, or take hormones or whatever. And we will ascribe them to one of the two categories for the purposes of this world for the purposes of legal rulings for the purposes of inheritance and whatnot. Now, so as we said, transgender is a broad term. And it basically means that a person wants to choose a gender that is

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not the same as their as their biological gender. So transgender is the opposite of cisgender cisgender, you're born male, you want to be a male, you're born female, you want to be a female, and for us Abrahamic traditions, we think that is the normative tradition. As for transgenderism, there's three different things. And again, I'm being very simplistic because this is not the time to go to a lot of detail. There's three aspects we can look at, number one, gender dysphoria, number two, gender expression, and number three, gender transition, this is going to be the three things, gender dysphoria, gender dysphoria, is the belief that biological sex, and the gender that you

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assume are not matching up. So you're born male, but you feel female, you're born female, but you feel male. Okay? Gender Dysphoria is that the biological sex you were born into, does not match the way you feel and you want to be treated, and your internal perception. And gender dysphoria in and of itself, is something that the Shetty I would classify as feelings. And as I have said many times, feelings in and of themselves are not going to be held accountable, nor shall they be sinful. Even a person who has same sex feelings or is not going to be punished for those feelings. Feelings will not get you punished by Allah subhanahu wata either, it's doing more than feelings. So perhaps at

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some level, gender dysphoria is really not something that we as Muslims should consider to be anything that is said to be looked down upon. On the contrary, if a person comes to us struggling with this, we should help them in this regard, except that ALLAH has tested people with different trials, and this might be a particular trial for them. So gender dysphoria and I have spoken to a number of people that have come to me with this. And I have, and I continue to learn, I'm always going to say this is something that, you know, it's not a very common phenomenon or subculture so we will learn and interact and see. So gender dysphoria in and of itself, we don't understand why this

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is the case. Perhaps there are biological factors, perhaps there are, you know, cultural factors of upbringing, whatever it might be, in the end of the day, it is a feeling and if nothing is done to act upon that feeling, we will tell this person, our brother in faith, our sister and faith that you know, indeed, the way that you feel is something that you don't have to decipher the act upon and try your best to maintain the gender that you were born into. Because our Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said that Allah's curse is upon the man who is effeminate, and the woman who is masculine, the Model X masculine. So the man who acts effeminate, I should say, not chained, let me change the

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Hadith, the man who acts effeminate and the woman who acts you know, in a masculine manner, so as long as you don't act in that manner, then this is something that the shady I will not consider to be something sinful. The second is gender expression in which you are male or you are female, but you act out you dress in the manner of the opposite gender, and this is also called being a transvestite or being a drag queen. So you might identify even with the gender of your birth, you're going to say I'm a male, and you were born biologically male, or I'm a female and you're born biologically female, but for whatever reason, either permanently or temporarily, you will

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dressed and you will act like the opposite gender, and perhaps even you will want to identify with the pronouns of the opposite gender. And for us as Muslims, we say, that is not something that is acceptable. And we need to curb this and not do it if we believe in Allah and His messenger. So this is gender expression, that our Prophet system said that this is something that this is something that the divine curse is upon, we do not act out. There are there are characteristics and traits that are masculine, there are characteristics and traits that are feminine. Now, if it's beyond our control, some men speak in a very soft voice. Some women have a deep voice, obviously, this is

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beyond your control, but to go beyond what you are born with, and to act and dress, and be pretending to be of the other gender, that is not something that we do. And then the third point and the final point gender transition, which is actually taking hormones or doing a surgery in which you physically change your organs. This is gender reassignment surgery, this is also called a transsexual, transsexualism. And this is something that the Shetty does not allow no fifth Council in the world to the best of my knowledge that is Sunni there. It is true that non Sunni, there's a particular famous Ayatollah that has allowed it, but Sunni fifth councils have not and no mainstream

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scholars, there are a few voices on the perimeters that are willing. But generally speaking, this is not something that is considered to be permissible. And once again, not every feeling and not every desire needs to be acted out. There are some desires and feelings that are painful and difficult. Some people are attracted to alcohol, some people are attracted to drugs, some people are attracted to other things. Some of these attractions might be permissible, if you're attracted to the opposite gender, you want to get married. That's all permissible. Some of these attractions are not permissible. If they're not, they must be curbed and not acted upon. So to conclude, this is a very

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sensitive topic. I know, much more needs to be said. But our sister from high school asked a very basic question. And so to respond to this question, we say that we need to contextualize this movement, understand that much of this movement is trying to mainstream, what might be have existed but not necessarily been mainstream. As Muslims, we must preach the truth. But that doesn't mean we treat anybody rudely. We treat everybody with the dignity and respect that a human being deserves. Just because I disagree with somebody's lifestyle doesn't mean I have to be rude to them. We're polite to everybody. We're polite to even people who don't believe in God or worship a false god. So

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you can be polite to everybody in your class. But at the same time, you know, your close friends and those whom you associate with on a more personal level, you should they should be people who have a positive influence on you, and follow the faith and the morality and the traditions that you believe in. And also in this issue of the trans issue. We say if somebody feels a particular way, they should try their best to control the feelings if they act upon it. That is where things occurred that we believe are immoral, and even if that acting occurs, doesn't leave the fold of Islam. They should repent, turn back to Allah subhana wa Tada and Allah forgives all sins, may Allah subhana wa

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Tada guide all of us to that which he loves. And may Allah subhanaw taala protect all of us in our loved ones in our families. Until next time, we'll look at Santa Monica rahmatullah wa barakato.

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