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Banning Child Marriages – Or Can We Pass Laws Restricting the Mubāh? – Ask Shaykh YQ #226

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Salam aleikum wa rahmatullah wa barakato. Who would hamdulillah how praise is due to Allah the one and the unique he revealed the Quran and he taught man how to speak it is he alone that we worship, and it is His blessings that we seek. So we ask Allah subhana wa tada to censor that and Salam upon al Mustafa, the one who reached the prophetic peak, as to what follows today, shall we have two questions that I get to either let's begin, firstly, brother Rashid, from a certain African country best not to mention, as you'll see why, right, that there's a lot of discussion going on in his land, regarding a new legislation that aims to curb the minimum age of marriage, that they want to

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make a minimum age, that is, you know, regulating it. So they want to curb child marriage, that's to say, and they want to regulate

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marriage to a certain age. And he is saying that there is a debate amongst the aroma of his land, some saying that it is a good step, whereas others are saying that the Shetty does not have any age limits. So therefore, to put an age limit goes against the Sharia. He asks for my thoughts on this issue. And another question that is similar to this is that sister hardrock, from Sri Lanka asks to what level can social culture be used to limit rulings? or fifth, this is a similar question. So we'll just lump them together. Now, I want to begin by stating that my talk is generic. That's why I did not mention your country's name. And that it is not my place to take sides amongst your LMR of

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your land and your country regarding the specifics of whether a particular law is justified in their situation. It's not my job speaking from 1000s of miles away to talk about your particular land, and what the roadmap are saying in that land. I will answer generically, the question can be broadened. And we can say whether, from a theoretical perspective, it is allowed for an Islamic political system to restrict what might otherwise be the default of halaal. And to what extent can it restrict what is the default that is headed? And as you've already mentioned, that the scholars of your land have differed, which already gives you an indication that this is an issue which obviously there

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will be some back and forth some sensitivities, some various interpretations, and there's no doubt that this question is one of the most hotly debated amongst them of all the lines because the the the reality that we're dealing with is that governments and legislations obviously have their own paradigms and sources. Sometimes there's direct clash, sometimes there's conformity, but usually it's this type of gray area here. So let us first eliminate the problematic areas that we're not talking about the problematic areas clearly for an entity for a Muslim government to legislate making that which is why Jew, prohibited so it is obligatory to pray five times a day, it is

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obligatory to foster a month of Ramadan, it is obligatory to, you know, maintain Islamic decorum and public to wear the hijab, whatever it might be, for any Muslim entity for any government to ban to prohibit that which the [???]tier has made obligatory. There is no question that this is a rejection and a something that is completely by unanimous consensus, it will be something that is prohibited, and we as Muslims should try our best to maintain the Shetty eye in our personal lives. And if possible to flee from that land. If the wajib has been made, quote, unquote, how long if the wajib has been banned, then that has crossed a red line? The exact flip side, if the How long has been

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made obligatory as well, the same thing it is how long to drink alcohol, it is, how long to eat pork, if these types of things have become obligatory in the country that you're living in, that you are required to do the How long? Once again, you know, there is no question that that is not allowed for us to do if we're forced to do it. May Allah forgive us, it's not allowed. If we're able to leave from that line, we should leave from that land. Now. Let's just again, be realistic. The vast majority of laws that Muslim countries enact are not in those two extremes, rather, we're talking about that middle. And that is where all of these discussions come. And the fact is that this branch

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of Islamic knowledge is in fact an entire branch of Islamic science, which is called CSR sialorrhea. It is basically the knowledge of how Islamic politics works.

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You have a number of odema that have written about this, for example, Alma, what are the is camsell tawnya, for example, even Tamia has written a treaties, and you have other scholars as well, in the books of filt, you find brief mentioned is actually not something that is generally discussed in detail in the books of Phil. And that is because the books of fifth are not meant to be constitutions for governments, this is one of the biggest mistakes of the very beginning student of knowledge. And, frankly, sometimes even those that have studied a lot, but they didn't study this branch of CSS showed that they substitute books for constitutions. And we see sometimes in certain

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areas, especially rural areas where people that have studied very basic mothers, and you know, they might be students of knowledge and toddlers, but they become in charge. And they don't understand that ruling a country is not something that you just pick up a book of filth, and then you take the ruling, and you apply that there is leeway that is allowed in this regard. And so today, inshallah, this brief response, I'm going to just shed some light, and then I will state that this is a topic that needs to be discussed on a case by case basis by local scholars in conjunction with their areas of speciality. And again, I am not taking sides in your particular land and the scholars of that

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land, I'm speaking a bird's eye view, theoretically, because when you look at Islamic history, when you look at 14 and a half centuries of the Muslim world, you actually do find that sold bonds and hold, and governors many times in acted laws that conflicted with theoretical ideals, and sometimes the scholars approved, sometimes they justified usually they grudgingly went along, because the ideal and the real is always generally speaking different from one another, the ideal, and the real, is something that there's tension in class, how the world should be versus how it actually is. And this was the case, even in the time of actual whole of an actual soul phones. Do you really think

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every salon and every governor and every ruler acted like I'm gonna blah, blah, blah, viola, who I'm obviously not many times, they enacted rules that were hotly disputed, opposed by the people of their times. But what is to be done? rulers are rulers and the people simply if they, you know, they obey along and they hate it in their hearts, then it is what it is, to compound this problem. If this was the reality of actual horror, and Salatin, what do you think in our times when we don't have Islamic judgments and governments what we have are nation states, with countries, some of which have a Muslim majority, some of which might have, you know, Muslim minorities, but Muslims in

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Congress, and the majority of which the laws of these lands do not go back only to the [???]tier, rather than a hodgepodge, a mixture of this and that elements of the [???]tier elements of other laws. And of course, we also have to think about the minorities of other faith traditions living in these Muslim majority lands, and the realization that modern laws must apply equally to every single faith in the nation state. That is the nature of the nation state, if you're a citizen, all the laws will be equal, the nation state was not meant to cater to, you know, different laws for different faith traditions, by and large. So the point being, with all of this, you know, caveat over here,

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you're asking me, is it allowed to restrict that which the Shetty has made permissible? It is not obligatory, it's permissible. Is it allowed for an Islamic government to restrict the permissible? You asked me I'll give you my opinion, I follow the position, which is the mainstream This is not a fringe minority. You know, this is our problem here is that people who don't understand or don't know, they make this to be some type of deviancy and in reality, this is the default position that an Islamic rulership has the right in consultation with the AMA, and with the experts to restrict the mobile to restrict that which might be otherwise permissible, permissible, or to take charge of

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the rights that the Shetty might as a default, give to an individual, that the government can take charge of that right and take it from the individual as a matter of policy as long as certain conditions are met. And this position is what history itself shows us going back to the era of the whole of Russia doing that there are so many examples of this. Some of these examples do actually not only with you know running the country, they deal with core religious policies. In fact, one of the first things that I will look at associated with a loved one who did as a matter of policy was to compile the Koran in one book and this compilation of the Quran was one of the biggest blessings

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that Allah gifted to this oma as a matter of government he did this and then earthmen rhodiola when he made that version, or that most half if you like, he made it the the only one that he said anybody who has a personal copy by government policy, it should be destroyed. Now, some even of the people

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objected to say, Hey, hold on a sec, this is my copy. I heard it from the profitsystem. And tomorrow the lawyer said, I don't care right now we have a greater good to do. We have to unify the entire oma and we thank Allah He did this because of those wise decisions, then a lot of fitna later on was gotten rid of and the oma has remained united because of a matter of politics because of a political decision of earthman rhodiola who died. And the same applies for other actual religious Institute's such as the tarawih prayer that Omar Abdullah has instituted. Of course, when it comes to non religious matters, so many policies were done in that era of the Hoda and the early oma years,

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whether it was to divide the government into various administrative bodies, or even to put into place simple laws that we still see. Let me give you a simple example. Do you think that it is an Islamic for an Islamic government to put in laws pertaining to traffic and pertaining to, you know, stop signs and violations? What if the government says you must have a driver's license to drive a car, and then some, let's say, you know, person who doesn't understand the Shetty or says, Oh, this is how long Allah doesn't say that we need a driver's license Subhanallah if somebody brings this issue, then honestly, the mentality of this person is so far removed from our level of discourse

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that frankly, I don't even know if we can have a legitimate conversation with this person. Eliza just did not require these types of things simply because Eliza just said what's our ability what taqwa cooperate on that which is good. So if a group of people come together, and they say, it is good, that we put in traffic laws, it is good that we have red and and green and yellow traffic signs, stop signs, it is good that we regulate, you know, the city in this regard, then it is therefore a part of our system that we follow that there is no problem just because the shady I didn't come with it, obviously, that's what society does. The shady is a very broad rubric. And it

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is something that is meant to be applicable in every single time and place. And therefore, if the ruler wants to restrict that, which the default of the Sharia is permissibility, it is permissible. And let me show you some examples that are even more explicit. I'm gonna follow the law one heard that some of the people in the newly conquered land some of his administration, some of the senior Sahaba were marrying ladies that were Jewish or Christian or Hindu Kitab or whatever, wrote them a letter saying that you should not marry educated ladies marry Muslim ladies. So they wrote back that Oh, ameerul momineen Oh leader, Allah has said in the Quran is allowed, are you saying it is how

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long? Allah has explicitly said, it is how that how are you saying for us that we should not marry and Nikita and Obama have said, I am not saying it's wrong. I'm not using that word that Allah has said is wrong. But it is I don't want to you as my government employees, as my officials, as the governor, as people employed by the state, I don't want you to do this. Because you know, according to one book of history, it says, if you were to start marrying the advocate tab, and you're the role models, then all the Muslims are going to follow you who's going to marry our ladies who's going to marry the Muslim ladies, and commenting on this event, probably the historian. He says that whatever

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hottub did not allow her and her visa and other of the senior Sahaba to marry Jewish and Christian ladies out of a fear that other people might follow in that custom. And therefore, the female Muslims, the Muslim art would be left unmarried. And so he commanded that as role models, they should restrict themselves to Muslim ladies Now, did or Madonna hotdog or with the villa with the will contradict the Sharia? No, because it's not obligatory to marry a kitabi. It's allowed, it's MOBA. And in this point, by testimony of the Koran it is allowed to marry a kitabi lady, Allah says in the Quran or Hadith, it is allowed for you right? That it is permissible for you to marry more so

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not in light of misapprehension, that as long as they're pure and righteous that you may marry and make it up that

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by the testimony of the Quran is hella Rama hottap is not saying how long he is saying for you. My government deploys at this time in place, I'm going to legally prohibited what has happened here. He has taken the MOBA, the the permissible and he has restricted it. That's completely allowed. Another issue of modal hubbub that he did famously I talked about this and other q&a that he took the issue of the triple divorce, and he made the triple divorce actually a triple divorce again, this is another topic altogether.

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And maybe I'll talk about it no longer q&a. I have given a brief q&a. Let me

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For Pablo de la Ron, he took the issue of the triple divorce. Before his point in time, a triple divorce was considered one. If a man says I divorced you, I divorced you I do force you is considered one, I'm going to hop out of your loved one took a diplomatic political decision. And he said triple his triple. This is a political decision not to shutter a position. And he and now if somebody were to say, as you change the Shetty, I know it's a political and he took this and it became the law of the land. And in fact, not just political decisions and legal decisions. Some of these decisions, even involved rituals are a model of the law one instituted to advance to advance

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for Juma, one of them in the marketplace. And one of them outside of the masjid as was the custom. And the people understood that this was done for the benefit of the oma, there was no bidder, or no evil or no contradiction of the Sharia. So actually, if you look at the early scholars and the early, you know, the Holocaust,

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ironically, you actually find a level of pragmatism and forward thinking that is absent in many of our students of knowledge. and dare I say, even many of our clergy, it is simply absent because we have Hamdulillah, a massive tradition, 1400 years of scholarship, but in that scholarship, we also have, unfortunately, some elements of stagnation. Because we have so many volumes written in the last 14 centuries, a lot of people stick to what is written in those volumes. And they don't understand that those volumes written in 700 hegira 1300 eijiro. Those volumes represent the cumulative efforts of human beings. But the idea is broader than these books are fixed. And when you

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go back to what I'm going to build a pub and others did they understood this point, given the current dynamics that we're facing given the situation of the modern world, there is no problem for forward thinking right Mr. To come together and to see what else can be done to make the Sharia applicable as much as possible to make the [???]tier applicable as much as possible. Once again, and this is the problem that we face, we do have a hypersensitive reactionary group of self professed defenders of what they believe to be orthodoxy, and I have no doubt in my mind that if these groups of people were alive during the time of rhodiola one, they would have considered him to be a deviant

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reformist, they will not understand this is what the Shetty itself commands to do. And throughout history have so many examples of quota and subtlety in doing things that were in the gray area and eventually the scholar said okay, well that I understand this needs to be done and sometimes it's called who is opposed it not everything they do is this rulers do is automatically good. One example that comes to mind is when the Mongols invaded Muslim lands, the rulers began to charge a special tax now generally speaking, the rulers are not allowed to charge these types of taxes to the population and there is even the Salah one of the greatest scholars of that time he gave a fatwa to

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the ruling family that you cannot charge these taxes unless and until your own personal wealth and your own lifestyle and your own multiple palaces and horses have been sold off you know the ruling family always gets fat and rich This is the reality wherever you know corrupt people are in the majority of politicians are corrupt so the ruling family of the time also is extremely wealthy you know this person is appointed his cousin the ministers here the second cousin here the brother there and of course the ruling family gets rich off of the the money of the of the of the people. So when there is an app, the Salaam said, it is how long for you to charge one penny to the peasants. When

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you have 1000 horses in your stables, get rid of all of your excess wealth live like everybody else. And once you have gotten rid of your harem money, and we have to now pay to defend against the Mongols, no problem at that stage, we will pay extra taxes. And that's what you know, was enacted at that timeframe. So the point being that, you know, the situation called for taxes, even though generally speaking, the Shetty out, you know, does not allow, you know, governments to have these types of taxes being done. But when you have the mangoes at your doorstep, well, then you had better you know, defend your land. So the point that you're asking about a minimum age for marriage, and

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this is clearly something that the Sharia did not come with that there's an age or no age, the Sharia doesn't have an age number. So in some societies, it was the norm, it was completely permissible and the surely I did not forbid it that as long as it is something that the culture and the people are accustomed to. The Shetty is meant to be applied in every time in place. And marriages done at young age was the norm across the globe, Western and Eastern societies. How many go read up history. How many of the royal family of England of Germany of Bavaria have have the mum looks they would get their children married at a young age to solidify the bonds and for whatever

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This was the norm. No, you know, even in this country of America, that up until recently, to have two teenagers, even 14 year old 13, you'll get married 100 years ago, it was not something that raised an eyebrow, it was the norm. People are living shorter lives, children mature faster than, you know than they do now. And so it is something that was considered normal. Now in our times, we understand that young marriages might be potentially problematic in many cultures and societies. And if the government feels that we should raise the age of marriage and make it something that is reasonable, and the government therefore then restricts the MOBA can because child marriage is MOBA.

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It's not Haram. It's not worship, it's MOBA. If the government restricts the mobile, if one would have no authority, a loved one can explicitly restrict the Quranic verse that says you can marry a kitabi lady. And this is explicit in the Koran you can marry. He goes, No, I don't want you to marry. And the people understood this, then how about when there is nothing explicit in the Quran or soon about the age of marriage? And the ruler comes in and says the minimum age is 16 or 17? Or 18? How can anybody say that to just hold on to do that is that ruler doing something more radical than the last one, the point being that it is permissible to restrict that which is mobile, there's no

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problem and in fact, the majority of Muslim countries around the world have many laws in which the mobile is restricted and it is understood that this is the norm and it is positive. And one simple example for this is marriage registration and divorce registration as far as I'm aware, almost every single Muslim country in the world with the approval of the dilemma has said that a marriage must be registered with the appropriate authorities you must go to the ministry and register the marriage so that we know who's married so that we know children born to which marriage so that when the divorce happens you know everything is is registered now. If some you know ultra fundamentalist who studied

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you know, grade one fick comes in and says oh Billa the shady others not so you must register your marriage. The shady art says you must have the Wali you must have the the bride and the groom, you must have the Maha you must have the two witnesses, the German the COBOL. No book of fixes, you have to register with the government, we say this person Yuffie botica, lo fique. Yanni learn some wisdom and learn some fish and learn some CSS, CSS to shadia. You haven't understood it the goals of the shediac we want marriages to be protected. And one of the ways to protect marriage in the world that we live in is to register them with the government to make sure the authorities know who is married

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in case of divorce in case of something we need to have legal backup. And so we want marriages to be registered. We want divorces to be registered. And that's why I'm not aware of any mainstream scholar the body that is saying oh it is how long do register marriages. On the contrary, it fits the goals of the Shetty act to protect women to protect inheritance to protect children, we want the legal backup. And so yes, the marriage requires these conditions, do it in the masjid but then go register with the court of law. Go register with your country so that your marriage is known and your marriage is done acceptably. And the same goes for divorce as well that it should be registered

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so that the government is aware. This is another example of that which is mobile being restricted. There are so many other examples that can be given as well. A simple example is the reality of Ric and amilcare mean you know Melaka a Morocco's the Koran allows right at the concept of liberty and servitude and whatnot. Once upon a time it was something that was the [???]ty allowed it the shady I allowed it. Now, that concept of rec is completely banned in every single country in the world Muslim and non Muslim, it is globally illegal to have a erotic or to have a milkman Now suppose hypothetically, hypothetically, that a person went to another land where there's a legitimate

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struggle going on. And he legitimately acquires a prisoner of war. That's not ransom. And so he takes this at I'll click back to his home country back to the this nation state that he lives in. He goes, Oh, lucky, you know, I acquired this appeal legally from the Islamic Sharia. And this is now my hierarchy of cookie essences, giving a hypothetical example. What do you think would happen? Yeah, be again, be realistic, you know, from Morocco, to Kazakhstan from Saudi Arabia to Pakistan, which land would allow our appeal and why should they allow? This is restricting the MOBA? It is not wajib to have it appear? It's not wajib to have milcom it is not wajib it was MOBA for a time in

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place now the world has banded officially now I know unofficially, things happened but what not and you know, there is still illegal slavery in the world. But I'm saying as a matter of policy, the world the globe has banned this institution, including every single Muslim country without exception. Do you know any item that is saying this is how long do you know an alum that is saying I wouldn't be

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Now why has you know, every single Muslim land, you know, banned it, they understand that it is allowed and maybe even desirable in this case to stop this institution and Hamas, it was something of the past. We don't need to move it on. So the with utmost respect to your scholars that I'm not taking sides, I'm just asking them asking you to ask them, these same scholars that are problematizing, marriage age and whatnot. Are they also problematizing? The fact that the same country that you're from has banded and Medicare mean, are they saying that, you know, to obey those laws issue they can cover? They themselves? Don't have replicability, I mean, and they're not

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calling for it in their own countries. And globally, it is now completely gone. So again, this notion of making an issue out of something that should really not be an issue, per se, again, I'm speaking theoretically that, conceptually speaking, it is allowed for a proper Islamic government that actually wants to follow the Sharia, to restrict the mobile, how much more so that when a government doesn't even follow the [???]ty out and is doing these things, okay, you just follow along that if a proper Islamic government were to do it, it would be highlighted. How about if it's not even Islamic government? And they're just doing it for their political reasons? Okay, what are you

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going to say about this? And it just, you know, it's it is it is what it is? My point being many examples can be given in this regard. The famous scholar author had been assured, perhaps one of the most brilliant scholars of the previous century, North African scholar, Tunisia, he actually said that a number of instances, he actually said, the rights that Allah has given to the individual can be taken by an Islamic system and taken away from the individual. So for example, the right of disciplining, you know, one spouse that Allah says, No, hold on, well, the ribuan authority been set in light of all that is going on in the world. barrhaven, I should have said, this right, should be

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taken away from the husband. And it should now go to the Hakama to the government's, one of my own teachers, very conservative, very traditionalist, you know, old school scholar, one of my own teacher said that, that, in light of the misuse of divorce, in light of how divorce has become so common and prevalent, there's no problem in stripping the right of divorce away from the husband, and enforcing the husband to go to the court of law. And in presenting his case, so that there are checks and balances, right? This is something that is coming very common in our times to hear this type of rhetoric to restrict the MOBA is something that the Sharia allows, and so many other

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examples can be given in this regard. But I want to conclude with what a number of our scholars have said that to restrict the MOBA is allowed when it is done for the common good of the people, when it is done in consultation with Roma, and with experts is that simple, even taymiyah himself comments on a particular case, that there's a Hadith of the Prophet sallallahu wasallam, in which a man came and said, O Messenger of Allah, can you regulate the price of commodities amongst us? Can you regulate the price of commodities amongst us? Because inflation has begun and prices have gone high? So whatever was $10 did hums has become maybe 15 their homes right? So they sing a messenger of

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Allah set the prices. So the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said, I don't want to do so. Allah is the one who sets the prices Allah is the Messiah, let it be somewhat of a free economy and Islam is not 100% free economy but overall it is more free economy than communism overall. There are more aspects if you like of some aspects. Don't misquote me, I'm being very simplistic here. Some aspects of free economy are more in conformity with Islam than socialism and communism. But Islam has its own because it does not allow interest and other things of this nature. My point being the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam explicitly refused to set prices, Ibn taymiyyah and he is not somebody

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who is considered to be a progressive or whatnot. He is very, you know, mainstream, Adam would not even taymiyah comments on this. And he says that sometimes setting prices is justice and permissible. Now, and he gives an example that if somebody, you know, has inflated the price of that, which is not, for example, water, and if some groups of criminals have overtaken the water industry, let's say two or three mafia gangs have overtaken the water industry, and for no reason they're raising prices to exorbitant levels. Should the government step in bread? Should the government step in to say, hey, you families that are running the bread industry, the rice industry,

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you're not allowed to, you know, form a cartel, you're not allowed to come together and you know, make sure that everybody's paying double, triple five times the the going rate just because you have a monopoly on the market, or should they follow the explicit Hadeeth I'm not going to get involved.

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Allah is the one who sets prices. You see, once again we get what we call what I call superficial level one knowledge, the beginning student who reads the Hadith. And, you know, again, if you were to, quote even Tamia to this person he was he noted, but he would never say that, how could you contradict the Hadith. And again, the problem always is a very, very flimsy, superficial understanding of the Quran and Sunnah. And the notion that the Quran and Sunnah have phrases that are constitutions, rather than they have phrases from which we derive broad laws and ethics. And there's always exceptions, even taymiyah himself says, The default is we don't get involved, yes,

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but if a commodity that is needed by mankind is being abused by a group of people, then to get involved and to set prices becomes the essence of justice, you must get involved, and you must set prices, even if it appears that you're contradicting the Hadith. explicitly, still, you do it because the Hadith was not meant to be with no exceptions. Once again, this is the government getting involved in legislation that the Shetty might default by saying don't get involved with So in conclusion, the majority position, and it is the majority, in spite of Unfortunately, some of our clergy and some of our students of knowledge, saying otherwise, then it with my utmost respect to

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somebody who's gone through training and scholarship, I will tell you that, frankly, many of the people who study just a few years, they form hard line positions that those who study 2030 years, eventually abandon. I'm just being honest here. And you will see for yourself, if you look at some of the most elderly and senior scholars who have gone through life and gone through much knowledge, and especially if you look at the council's of the globe, it had an aroma Islami and arrabiata Sami and the others you know, in our case in America, you follow the European Council and imja and the third council North America, if you look at these bodies, and the scholars on those bodies,

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generally speaking, you will find that they have gone through this stage of simplistic literalism and they have broken beyond this. And they've understood that no, the shadow does not require you to stick to a textbook written 500 years ago by a great Adam, but if a particular time and place and in fact, the Shetty allows for thinking through specific issues, and perhaps restricting that which is unrestricted in the Sharia. And let me give you a simple example. You asked about the setting the age in Saudi Arabia recently, with the with the backing of the clergy, with the backing of many odema, the government did restrict the minimal age. Yes, there was some pushback, yes, some scholars

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said, you don't have the right to do that. But the majority of scholars of that tradition understood that it makes sense to restrict, and we don't want young marriages anymore, because generally speaking, a person is not qualified to get married. And in fact, the harms are going to be greater than the good. If a person is very young, you know, 10 years old, or 12 years old, they're not qualified to understand the implications of marriage, and it's going to be problematic later on. So even a very conservative land that is full of scholars, you know, like Saudi Arabia, recently passed legislation with the backing of the scholars, and they raised the age of marriage, and it is now the

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law of that land, and is the law of many Muslim lands as well. And so even though I'm not qualified to judge in your particular land, and I don't know your culture, that well, and I don't know, you know, your particular society, I will say, as a general default in the common world that we're living in, it does make sense to me to raise the age of marriage to make it something that is reasonable. And the Sharia does allow this even new chain, one of the great scholars of well suited filk of the Hanafi madhhab. And he wrote a number of treatises that are considered to be referenced works in the theory of Islamic law, he wrote that the leader, the mom has the right to

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enact laws that will be beneficial for the community, the leader has the right to make laws that are not explicit in the Sharia, in order for benefit of the community. And therefore, if laws are passed, that don't contradict the explicit Sharia. Join me contradict I said to make the wajib illegal or to make the harem mandatory. These are the two extremes that we cannot tolerate that which is wajib. If you say you're not allowed to do that, or that which is how long you say you must do that there is no question that now you're in trouble. And if you're able to leave, leave that land, if you're able to change change that that's law. However, the bulk of laws that we do are in

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the middle of these categories, and that is the idea of silent, or maybe even the Shetty has allowed it as mobile not as wajib. And the rules come along and say hey, we want to restrict it. As long as it is done with this, you know, I conclude the conditions. The first condition is that this change must be in conformity with the goals of the Sharia law.

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With the goals of the pocket of the ruler, the goals of the shediac. So for example, child marriage of the goals of the shediac is to protect children and to protect women and men and to protect families, if in a particular time and place young marriages is detrimental, then in that case, we should say, you know what, that has stopped young marriages and let us not go down that route. So the first condition, we say that it must be in line with the goals of the city. The second condition is that the scholarly community should be consulted along with experts, the scholarly community should be consulted, along with experts, these decisions should not be done simply by a group of

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politicians, because we don't trust them to be honest, we don't trust that they're doing it for their own good or for the good of the community, you should have a roadmap and you should also have experts in whatever field that is, whether it is you know, whether it is a you know, child psychology in this case or whatever, whatever it might be, there should be experts who understand the reality of this situation to be involved as well. And then the third condition is that this change, this change cannot be a permanent or an ethical change. It is a temporary legal one for the sake of that particular time and place. So if this law is passed and says the minimum ages For

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example, 17 years old, they cannot say that all marriages that took place before this time in the past, we consider them to be how long and against the [???]tier No, they have no right to dictate ethics in the past. They can make something

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illegal, but they cannot make it impermissible in the eyes of the Shetty out what's the difference? To make it illegal means that we're not going to accept this. They cannot bring the word how long in Allah's religion? No, because how long is the right to Allah? See, I think this is the fundamental point that most Muslims are many Muslims don't understand. When the government says you must stop at the traffic light. Okay? They are not saying that if you don't stop you are committing how long that will take you to jahannam they're saying you're doing something that is for the good of the community. And if you don't follow these laws, and everybody is going Helter Skelter, it will harm

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the community. It's not allowed to bring in haraam and say, Allah is telling you to stop with the traffic light. No, Allah did not tell you to stop with the traffic light. Allah said, live in a civil society. Allah said wamu rabina home Allah as we just said, obey your rulers and your rulers have come together and have enacted laws that are for the betterment of society, therefore for you to follow these laws will bring your healthy society It's that simple. And the same goes for these other areas where the Sharia is silent, or maybe even the Shetty out explicitly allows, but for certain times in places, scholars and other people think that it is best to change for that time in

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place, it cannot be permanent, you cannot and no one has the right to permanently abolish that wish the Shetty has considered to be permissible, but they may do so for a temporary period of time. And so with that a shallow Tada. We conclude this question by stating that from a theoretical perspective, it is permissible to do so and with regards to your particular country. Listen to both sides and my position always is that track records speak volumes and go to those who are rooted in the tradition but at the same time understand the realities of the world and you will always find such aroma go to those aroma and stick with them. Time has finished brothers and sisters where there

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was time I was thought we'd had time for one more but unfortunately there's no time for that inshallah we'll continue our q&a next week until next time, Joseph como la Whalen was said I might even want to lie about a cat