Musk’s Take, Columbia’s Skunk Surprise, Islamic Unity, and India’s Ram Revelation

Salam aleikum wa rahmatullah everybody. Welcome back to the Akins live stream event. Our weekly event hosted by me Mom Tom bikini. We're happy to have you with us. As always let us know where you're watching from this week. It's been a busy week and one of the lessons for this week

weak is to, to roll with the punches, as we say, and to attempt to solve things on the fly that things don't always go the way you planned. Now, you might notice that we have a very different background, we don't have a lot of fancy equipment that we usually have. And that's because of a several sorts of things that are less prone to audit destined than decreed for today that prevented us from using the same space that we always use, and prevented us from using the same equipment that we always use. But it's a humorous and humbling reminder that in life, things don't always go the way the way you plan, and that you have to adapt and not lose hope and that everything happens for a

reason. And one of the great things about being with the Athena Institute is that you get to work with a bunch of wonderful people who have a similar sort of outlook on life, so we're able to kind of laugh about it and say, other Allah, Masha.

So when it comes down, let's see who we have with us today. I know I saw we had some Returning viewers from last week and one of the cool things about this program is that yeah, we get to develop something of a community between us you start seeing the same people week in and week out. And obviously there's some things that we'll check in. We got a lot of things to check in with this week. You start to recognize people so I recognize Daniela tan from Malaysia I remember it from Saddam Saddam at the time. We have sought a man with us Masha Allah and Kathy, you have Asif mashallah, we have a bunch of people some returning some new faces. Sita Rohini Alikum Sadam Shafi

welcome Maria Malika Sudan and after that it occurred to Mohammed Haspel Allah from Malaysia as well Masha Allah set them at the time welcome to the program. I'm really trying hard to come to Malaysia inshallah. Tata this summer.

There's going to be a conference there pneumatics conference, if you guys are aware of aromatics, and I believe it'll be the last half of July. So I'm hoping sha Allah, make dua to Allah Subhana Allah that Allah facilitates it, because I've been to Malaysia once before and it was absolutely wonderful. I had an amazing experience with the people of Malaysia, the massage in Malaysia, the Islamic culture. It was a very, very pleasant experience and one that I'm hoping to repeat as soon as I can. Are they going to sit down we have a chef if I'm saying that correctly from the Maldives.

Masha Allah, we always have a very impressive international crew Amina from Dr. Mashallah, I'm guessing I don't want to take any guesses there. Welcome.

Let's see Zeebo. Let's see we have a question here already from Zebra while you're gonna sit down and

my friend and I were having a chat and she told that we don't need to study or do anything, because we all die, but I have a lot of dreams. What do I do? Well, you know, Allah subhanaw taala said in the Koran and the prophesy said I'm instructed us that even though last found data has decided what is going to happen that all of us is responsible for acting because we don't know what that thing is that Allah subhanaw taala decided so it's not an excuse that we're all just going to die that we don't do anything. No, this is the data that I'm this is the abode of action, right. And the next life after we die is that he said is the the abode of we translate that as of reckoning right where

we see the fruits of our actions or even Sadam after luck when ebony from Ohio welcome Ohio. Unfortunately, I haven't yet had the chance to make it out to Ohio but I hope I hope to do so soon inshallah. AMITA why they come sit down. Mrs. From from Virginia, masha Allah knows they know Istanbul how skeldon is how skeldon has Madhava from Istanbul, Istanbul, some of you might know was the place where I was able to visit and I studied in a study abroad program there for six months before I converted to a snap. So Istanbul is very close to my heart. I lived in New SKIDATA for six months and it was a major impact on me and coming to a snap. We have Yes, Australia, masha Allah, I

think I'm Sadam caddy. Aladeen I think her call the other Dean from Maryland. Grace rose from Canada she Sheffield Anwar losery from Malaysia again, masha Allah said I'm at the tongue. Imam huzefa Allahu Akbar Ma sha Allah shaken. Welcome. We've got Zane from Miss Alma dunya asna Masada

nusseibeh from Worcester Masha Allah I was educated I was able to go to Western hamdulillah and do some programming there with the wonderful community in Worcester. And then the first thing that they taught me was how to pronounce Worcester because the first I had no idea Nabila Choudry from Philly Philly zone, masha Allah Philly is close to home for me.

Brooklyn's in the house, Shawn? from Brooklyn, Mashallah. I've been to Brooklyn several times recently and I'll be coming back again. We have

Rita high from Italy. Masha Allah

Benvenuto

Afghanistan Allahu Akbar i just love always seeing where everyone's from Berlin Connecticut haven't made it to Connecticut say it in the Vita and Arbor Michigan sit down with to love hope to make it out to in order Senegalese from Georgia. Okay, I thought it was Senegalese I know some dopes if I'm pronouncing that correctly excuse me if I'm not

Ambreen from Canada, Masha, Allah.

Excellent, excellent. Excellent. So Seneca is asking also about predestination. If Allah subhanaw taala has written our lives, and how do we have free will, and I will tell you, after a while, they can sit down to Zane up from South Carolina, and they can sit down to Elaine Tang from also from laser sentiment, the tongue, the Buda from New Jersey when it comes to them that I will answer that with the an answer that I was given when I was not yet a Muslim. And I asked the sheikh, who was very dear to me. His name was Chicago, Fatah. And he was from he was from Egypt. I asked him the same question. And he told me, he told he answered it like this, he said, if you have a child,

right, your son or your daughter, and if you tell them, go over there, run to the car and run back and I'll give you a piece of chocolate, I have my candy. And I have in my pocket,

you know, as their parent,

you know, as their parents that what they're going to do if they're going to take you up on that or not. Just like you know, if you set a plate of food in front of them, maybe you have some of this so that you know what they're going to eat and what they're going to reject and refuse to eat. Okay, now that's you and your child, or what about a loss of pounds Odda and you Who created you much more than you know than a parent. So

if we have a lost parent, if the parent knows what the child is going to do, because of the familiarity of knowledge that the parent has, does that mean that the parent forced the child to do anything? Doesn't the child still have free will? Right? This is the analogy that I was given. And it made sense to me and then it still makes sense to me now.

Mashallah, we got a lot of folks in here I would love to say to them to all of you Saba, who start from Indialantic and Sudan, Oregon in the house, Masha, Allah Lyster I believe as I say, Najmi

Tampa they are Kashmir Seneca I shall Fairbanks Alaska Allahu Akbar, Texas. Elena's. Okay, yeah, cinema puggy is not the tongue anymore. Daniela from Penang. Excellent. Mark rose from Somalia. Yeah, Allah. Welcome everybody UK is in the house. It's late for you should be sleeping. I'm just kidding. I'm happy that you're with us. Welcome, inshallah. I'll be in the UK in April.

My cell is from Minnesota, Scotland, Michelle from Scotland. That's wonderful. I hear that Scotland is beautiful. And I would love to go someday. Anyway, we, I can spend all day just talking about how beautiful this OMA is. And all the different places where the Muslims are, and all the wonderful cultures and colors and clothes and traditions that we have. But we do have a wonderful show. And I would hate to cut into it. So today we're going to we're going to scoot on over to talk about current events. And we have some really, really important current events that have been happening in the past week.

One of the things that has been going on we had for those of us in the United States, we have this ongoing saga, where we have people who are trying to push back against the government, because of the US government's enabling of the of the genocide in Palestine to our brothers and sisters in Palestine. So there has been a lot of political activism and agitation. We've seen people interrupting President Biden during his speeches, we've seen, you know, many demonstrations and things of this nature. But unfortunately, what we still see up until this day, is the Democratic Party and the people who are charged making excuses and dismissing our concerns. So I think the guys

in the studio, we have a clip here from AOC that we're going to play had it demonstrated out It's Joe Biden's people, you know.

Oh, honestly, here's the thing. I think sometimes people want electoral politics to be, we overly identify with Alec. It's like if you vote for someone, they have to be the embodiment of you. And that's actually something that I think Donald Trump provided to a lot of people where it's like, if you voted for him, and if you are a Donald Trump person, like you, you want like it, it symbolized so much. But I think what we have here in the situation is a more just honest thing. There are plenty of things that

What the President does that I completely disagree with? I think, you know, right now what's happening in Gaza, I can't, I just, I can't go on every single day seeing this, I don't associate myself with what's happening. But at the end of the day,

we have to acknowledge that we just can't allow this fascist movement to grow in this country. And what I think is actually,

okay, so the elephant in the room, the elephant in the room is that who's the fascist.

And nobody's saying anything here about any particular party or any particular candidate to endorse or does not endorse it, but AOC and this, this attitude, and AOC, for those who don't know, is one of the most quote unquote, progressive politicians in Congress, and she has done a few things to indicate some sort of, you know, for a ceasefire, though, it's been very lukewarm. But the attitude that Muslims find from their representatives is this attitude, this dismissal of Muslim concern for our brothers and sisters, there's a genocide going on. And with one sweep of the hand, the politicians, the United States Ark, they are construing, our concerns in our rage and our

upsetedness and refusal to accept this genocide, as us not identifying 100% with our if with our elected representatives are elected president, which is a slap in the face.

To be frank. Now, what's the takeaway home for us as Muslims, and I think that this is important is that when I when I look at these things, and there's so many clips like this, with AOC, or other people, from the left from the right from this party from that party, they fail to understand something very, very essential and important about Islam, and about Muslims. And what they fail to understand is that us feeling for one another, as brothers and sisters in faith is part of our dean, is that this is not just a foreign policy issue. This is not just an issue, among other issues, where we line up this is your policy on the economy and this year of policy on this, and this is

your policy on that, that when you slaughter us when you slaughter Palestinians. Every single properly calibrated Muslim in the world feels like you are attacking me, you are slaughtering us as well, because the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said that the believers are like one body and In another Hadith, they said, that's a Saddam, he said that the believers are like, a boon. Yeah, and he's like a building. And he put his fingers together like this, that we fortify and strengthen each other. So they literally are betting on us. Either they don't understand or they're betting on us forgetting this. Right? They underestimate us, just like the US to underestimate a low amount

other low calorie, they asked underestimate Muslims, they don't believe that we actually or maybe this is completely just foreign to them that they've never cared for somebody else in their life outside of their country in the way that we care for the people of Palestine. Right. So this is a fundamental mistake and misreading of the situation. And one that if they don't change their tune soon, I think they're in for a very, very rude awakening electorally, because people Muslims are very, very sick of this. Now, we had another thing happened in this past week, which was Elon Musk, who, you know, obviously, he's the person who is in control and owns Twitter, formerly Twitter now

x. And he basically was was was caught sending some stuff that was anti semitic. I mean, I don't think there's any doubt about that. But since then, he has been forced and EPI, we can put it up on the screen studio. Since then, he has been forced to undergo a type of re education and some people have commented and said, it's a humiliation ritual, where they've taken him now they brought him they called him into occupied Palestine. And they showed him sort of these, you know, their props of propaganda and atrocity propaganda, right. And now he took a trip to Auschwitz, right, the concentration camp or the former concentration camp during World War Two conducted by the Nazis,

where, you know, millions of Jews were gassed and killed and slaughtered and it was an absolute tragedy. 100% but as many people have pointed out, that Musk is being his face is being smashed into a genocide that happened in the past, and it is distracting his vision from a genocide that is happening now. Currently against the Muslims and against all people of Palestine.

So we have a quote here from Musk that he said, After engaging in this sort of trip where he was absurd paid for and flew out on a first class ticket. The education of hatred among children and nausea must stop. When I was in Israel, I understood the need to invade the strip. If toddlers are taught that they must kill Jews, they will believe it, it has to stop. That's Elon Musk. Now, you see the type of bias that's at play here in many people. I was on Eddie with the deen show, not too long ago. And he demonstrated how every accusation is a confession that really when you look at it, who are the ones that are taught to hate, it is the school system in Israel that teaches their youth

to hate Muslims to kill Arabs to hate Arabs to speak against us. And this is well documented right? Now, unfortunately, unfortunately, this is the the consequence of this is compromising one of the last popular free platforms that we have. Okay, so we know that Mark Zuckerberg of Mehta, who owns Instagram, and Facebook has been very heavy handed, very anti Palestinian with his censorship of those platforms. But Twitter slash x was supposed to be something that was different. And despite the fact now I just have to say, despite the fact that there is a larger degree, there's a larger degree of freedom still on AIX and Twitter, people have noticed a distinct change. And they have

noticed a change in the tune of the type of reporting and things that have been that have been going on, where now there's more bias, there's more accounts being shadow banned, or followers being taken away, and this type of thing. So we ask ALLAH SubhanA data to aid us. But we also learn from this, that when it comes to us as a Muslim community that we can't rely always on the good. The Goodwill of people who aren't from us, people who aren't Muslims, or people who aren't sympathetic to Muslim causes that if all of this is dependent upon one man, and this one man is compromised, then it's something that affects all of us. The last thing I will mention, this has to be mentioned, you know,

for our current events is this past week, there was a ceremony

in India. And we know that in India, India is being occupied by a an ideology, Hindu nationalist supremacist ideology that's known as Hindutva. And I hope I'm pronouncing that correctly. Now, there was a message that is a very famous message has been around for hundreds of years called the Babri Masjid. And there this has been a site of contention since Hindutva, the Hindu nationalist sort of movement has gotten going because there was an allegation that the Babri Masjid was built on top of this particular Hindu temple that was there before. Now, putting aside the historical fact that Hinduism as one blanket term, as a religion is an invention of the British. And this is something

that is well documented, documented, you can read up on it, and William Cavanaugh and, and other sort of scholars, and we have some people here, I'm certain in the chat, such as Qadri, and others that have noticed that they have family there. I've seen videos of people in Mumbai, people in in other other parts of India, that they held, they built a temple, a Hindu temple on top of the destroyed Beverly mestiza. The Babri Masjid was destroyed by mobs in the 90s. And now they built a Hindu temple on top of that, and now they had a coronation ceremony all have your so called Bollywood superstars that maybe you watch growing up, Amitabh Bachchan, et cetera, et cetera,

showing up to these to this particular ceremony. And it green lighted a lot of aggression towards Muslims and those Muslims the United States, we understand a little taste of this, a little tiny taste of this because when some people come into power, and they set the tone for what's acceptable, then other people feel entitled to act out. And that's exactly what has been happening in India. So we ask Allah subhanaw taala to aid our brothers and sisters in India things are in a very, very difficult situation. And But Allah's founder has called it and the last one Tata is able to assist them and to grant them victory and to stop the provocation. Everything happens by the will and power

of Allah subhana data, and it very well could be that just like Allah subhanaw taala is allowing what's happening in Palestine to unite us that Allah is bound to otter is allowing what is happening in India to Unitas as well. And with that, we're going to turn to our next segment. It's a very, very important segment where we have a special guest with us tonight.

Someone who I've had the pleasure of meeting before a few times at conferences and hopefully inshallah she'll be she will be writing for European Institute somewhat soon, Sister Rodolfo was who is an attorney, and a lawyer with care, I believe. Welcome to the program. Set. I'm on a comb Imam Tom, thank you so much for having me. And thank you again, TLP. And for these lives, I know, for my family and my friends, these are really been something to look forward to every week. Well, thank you so much for being with us. We're happy to have any excuse to bring you want. Now, there's several things that we could have brought you on for unfortunately, what we brought you on to talk

about today is the situation at your alma mater, which is Columbia University in New York City. This is a very, very prestigious university that I had the pleasure of visiting and delivering some talks and a clip. Now, Columbia University has been in the news for some time, because of the repression from the administration. Upon pro Palestinian activism, it was one of the first if not the first major university to ban the chapters of JVP, the Jewish Voice for Peace, and SJP Students for Justice in Palestine. Now, in response to that, and when I had visited, I visited to give a clip and to give a talk. They have formed a coalition, I think of over 90 At the time, 90 student

organizations that we're going to continue sort of activism for Palestine. But there's a horrible situation environment of intimidation, and silencing and bullying that is going on there. And there's one particular professor that is very active on Twitter, that has been absolutely disgusting in his targeting of Muslim students or anybody who's speaking up on pro Palestinian issues. weaponizing his sort of

fake victimhood. To put it bluntly, like making every he's a tenured professor with every protection in the world, and he at the slightest sort of agitation and protest, acting as if he's under existential threat.

And yet his rhetoric, has empowered and emboldened people not has not only hasn't been allowed by the college's administration, but it has empowered and emboldened people to act out against the pro Palestinian protesters. And just this week, we had something horrible happen where there were two students who are actually former IDF soldiers, who used an illegal military weapon against Columbia students, January 19, two former Israeli soldiers now Columbia University students attack students on campus at a peaceful protest for Palestinian freedom by spraying them with an illegal chemical based weapon called skunk, according to victims of the attack. And witnesses, the former Israeli

soldiers injured dozens of students, at least eight of whom are hospitalized and many more went to urgent care. Students say they are dealing with intense physical symptoms and have hospital bills to cover on top of their schoolwork. So I want to get your reaction to that. What are the sort of things rather that you're aware of? And what has been the response of the university in

reacting to this attack on their own students? Do we see parity? Do we see equality when it comes to how Columbia University is treating its Jewish students who are pro Zionist pro Israeli versus the students that are speaking up for Palestine?

Yeah, unfortunately, I was not surprised to see the university universities reaction to what happened, which basically has been to send out a very vague email saying, you know, events occurred on the 19th. We're investigating, and then after intense pressure, so I'm part of a large alumni network for Palestine. And we have been calling emailing nonstop every administrator that's listed on the website. Basically, every office we can find complaining and trying to pressure them into opening a serious investigation. They've now said that they are investigation what they investigating what they claim is possibly a hate crime.

And that's been the extent of it. There have been no promises to cover medical bills. No administrators even visited the students in the hospital, which I will say is actually abnormal because I I went to Columbia for law school. I graduated in 2022. During my undergrad I was at the University of Virginia when the Nazis marched on the school, and a lot of my friends were taken to the hospital after a car drove through the crowd of

wrote counter protesters, and administrators of my university then visited students in the hospital even though it was unclear what had happened yet at the time, it's just something that administrators were supposed to do. So it's it's very shocking. And I actually think the number of students in the hospital is now up to at least a dozen, who've had to be hospitalized. And they were when they were released their medical reports, upon discharge all state exposure to a chemical agent, skunk is the same weapon used against Palestinians in the West Bank and in occupied territories as a method of crowd control. And I also want to know, you know, most you know, the the

folks who the two, the two students who threw the skunk are currently I think only one has been identified. But they're, like, just students at the university and Columbia has long actually encouraged

acceptance of students in its dual

dual studies program with Tel Aviv University, that that encourages students to apply who have, quote, military service in their background as as, as a, you know, a positive extracurricular, as though they're not part of a military that has a decade's long history of massacring Palestinians. And, you know, a long history of human rights violations. So it really is shocking to most people. But as a former student, I'm not that surprised. Because I during my time there, I was also president of Columbia Law students for Palestine. And it was difficult to, to say the least, to just even hold a simple event without having major pushback, hecklers people having to find security and

just no defense of any of our own rights to as a student group to hold an event. So it's, it's been shocking, but I will say like, they're the students, they are really incredible, they have not stopped today, there was a massive demonstration in the middle of campus,

in support of the students who've been harmed, alumni are trying very hard to pressure the university. But I but I do think that this is just, it's truly a parody of the liberal arts institution, and all it supposedly stands for. I mean, it's a heck of a thing, right? It's like most if you're a student, you expect to be worrying about, you know, your grades, making class, your tests, you know, maybe you need to do a, you know, a campus job or something like that, for some some side money. And to worry to have to worry that

agents from a foreign government, or let's not say agents, let's say soldiers that have spent time and served in a foreign nations military are going to attack you. Because your university has some chummy relationship with some foreign nations, you know, you know, universities is a heck of a thing. Right. And it's something that's embarrassing. A lot of people have been waking up in the past 100 days, to the entanglement. You know, I was reading and we'll get to this later in the program about sort of the the lemon test right or, and that are administrated to the government's entanglement with religion and how that developed over time. We talk about separation of church and

state, and the necessity of stopping entanglement of the state and religion. But look at how entangled the United States is with the State of Israel when it comes to and Columbia is in New York City, and the NYPD has a close relationship with the IDF. Right, and some other police departments do as well, where there is academic entanglement, where you have these sorts of whitewashing that's going on with trips to Israel and fieldwork in Israel, which lends further legitimacy to it, if anybody has watched and I recommend that you do the some of the documentaries such as Israel ism, which highlights among other things, the type of entanglement with Halo, right, the organization of

Halo on campuses across the country and how they are doing the work of a foreign nation on American soil, recruiting people to go serve in their army, potentially radicalizing them and sending them back here. And now we have to deal with them here, right? This is a high degree of entanglement. It's very, very, very, very strange. And it's very dangerous. So what are you I mean, where do you see things going? What would you recommend for for current students of Columbia, or other students that are still in college right now and they might face a sense

One more sort of circumstance. Yeah, absolutely. So I think the first No, I just want to, you know, make is that universities in the United States are supposed to be beacons of liberalism and free thinking.

But, you know, if if the veil was not lifted before, it's definitely been lifted now that there is a normative spectrum and limits on what freedom is, according to these so called liberal institutions. And they give us authoritarian definitions of safety and equality and justice. And they tell us to celebrate what they celebrate and condemn what they condemn, and compromise our values until we cannot recognize them in hopes that maybe if we do that, they'll throw us a bone. And I think students know this, and have known this for a long time. And they are on the front lines of a lot of this, you know, resistance and protest for Palestine here in the US. So I just want to encourage,

you know, anyone watching to support students in your community, if there's a local university that has an, you know, an MSA or SJP chapter that's doing work, you know, if they're, we always could use support from members of the community, and students should reach out to members of their local community as well to their massages, to their, you know, community centers to get that support, because it's extremely necessary

in terms of what students can do moving forward. Obviously, as I said, the university is a very flawed place. But there are some protections that exist, especially in public universities. So the difficult thing for Columbia as well as that it's a private university. And I'll get to the protections that exist for you know, some preps exists for students at private universities in a minute. But at public universities, the First Amendment to the US Constitution does technically protect your right to free speech and expression without government interference. And in this context, government interference does mean your you know, public universities since it's funded by

the state.

And I just want to remind, you know, any students watching who are at a public university, that your speech is supposed to be protected. And if it's not, then you have to, you know, assert that your rights are being violated, you should find a lawyer to support you, and consult with one. And there are not many limits on what how your speech can look like your speech can be controversial, you can criticize the State of Israel, you can criticize the US government, and your speech does not have to be, you know, civil, whatever that means to people, you can't be forced to hold dialogue sessions with Israeli advocacy groups, which is something that students have been forced to do, which is

crazy, because that's compelled speech, which is illegal in a public institution, it's part it's under the First Amendment, and they can't discriminate against you based on the viewpoint of your speech, either. Obviously, we're seeing a lot of these laws being violated right now across a number of public universities, including universities in Florida, Rutgers, as well as in Texas, in the UT System. And I've been working with folks at all of those, actually. So make sure that you are, you know, looking into what barriers are being put against you and consulting with lawyers, if you find that your speech is being limited, because it absolutely should not be at private universities.

Unfortunately, your rights are a lot more limited, because the First Amendment is not very protected on those campuses. However, back to my point earlier about universities supposedly being beacons of liberalism, most university handbooks do actually have a commitment to a free exchange of ideas. That commitments been forgotten in the past few months. But I do encourage students to look closely at their student handbook and find that language and use that language to challenge the administration when they try to limit the work that they're doing. The other protection you have is under Title six of the Civil Rights Act, which protects students from discrimination on the basis of

race, color, national origin, or perceived religion. So if someone looks Muslim, that that counts, and they're discriminated against for looking at or you know, someone assuming they're Muslim, that counts

I incurred and that that applies in public and in private and private universities because they get some federal funding. I encourage students to file title six complaints, which you can do on your own online, it's pretty quick, because a lot of the people being targeted right now are people who are Muslim who are Arab who are you know, black, brown, etc. They should, you know, file those checks.

As soon as things happen and mobilize to file those charges, because if we file enough of them, the Department of Education, whether it's a state or federal level will be forced to open investigations into these institutions and their policies. It's not a perfect strategy, obviously. But we have to use every tool in our toolbox. As an attorney, I'll be the first to say the law is far from perfect and very, very frustrating, especially as a Muslim person, but it's a tool and it's if you know it well enough, you can use it to your advantage. So that's kind of you know, that's what I encourage students to do. Finally, in a more strategic sense, this is not legal advice. I, you know, it's

important to remember that so many of us who were or currently are at these institutions got pulled into whether willingly or by force, these like, you know, capitalist Orientalist dei programs, which profited off of our likeness and our image, and, you know, have probably still have pictures of us up on their websites. I mean, I remember being at Columbia Law School at a networking event that was hosted by the law school and literally being followed around by a photographer, because I was the only hijabi in the room, like, my friends didn't want to stand next to me anymore, because they were afraid of getting their picture taken while they're, you know, eating a little hors d'oeuvre, like

it was ridiculous. But I'm sure my pictures floating around there somewhere, although maybe they'll take it down now that I'm speaking up against them. But it's important to remember that, you know, they still count on you to get more students and more applications to get donation, they use your picture. So if you've been ever involved in any of these kinds of programs, you should leverage that you should reach out to them and say, you know, your diversity is not genuine, it does not want to hear my social political views. It doesn't want to learn about what Justice looks like, for me, it doesn't even want to consider looking towards a world order where our brothers and sisters in

Palestine are living freely and with dignity and their homeland. And that's not you know, that's not a genuine kind of program that I am interested in being a part of, or interested in promoting. And I will go out of my way to tell my community not to be involved not to come here not to apply here. Or tell my alumni friends not to donate. I know, most alumni from Columbia, who support Palestine have called the university pledging to withhold donations. So I think these are these are things that you definitely can and should be doing in your own capacity as well.

Excellent, solid advice. We had some people that really resonated with your your experiences, I know that let's see, I think you'll save a costume says so true, that she used to experience the same sort of thing. So a very common thing, they love us when we're on their brochures, they wish that they had our diversity, and they love to display our diversity in a showy way. But when it comes to actually making us feel safe, when it comes to people speaking up for our issues, now, all of a sudden, you won't even visit us in the hospital. What fickle friends?

Let's, I'm just going to throw one last question at you. And that is okay. What if you have a professor like this particular professor at Columbia, who's causing problems? Who's creating an environment and basically

doing everything but explicitly encouraging people to attack? Attack you or make you, you know, put in a dangerous situation? Yeah, it's a really difficult question, especially at a university like Columbia, that's a probably a private university, and the administration would have to be the one to take action. I would encourage finding faculty support, if possible, to stand up to this professor to, you know, complain about about him to, you know, again, file formal complaints, every student even if you don't have him as a, as a professor should file a formal complaint of harassment of discrimination. Like any any op, you know, any any box that you see, just check it off. Because if

they're inundated with these complaints, at the very least, they will be forced to trust, you know, to see what is he doing? And how is he making students feel if you're actually in his class, and you're visibly Muslim or Arab, and you feel like, you know, his views might be impacting your grades, for example, or your ability to finish the class. I mean, that's, that is absolutely worthwhile of a complaint and you should actually escalate that to your you know, whether it's a career counselor or that there i It's been a while since I've been out of think there are like education counselors. People will help you choose your classes and things like that, that shouldn't

be something that's escalated, so that they're keeping an eye on it and so that you're also your own grades are not impacted, if that's something that you're worried about, but you know,

One thing, I think that's been a little bit, it's been great to see a lot, you know, growing faculty support for students who are doing this work. But it has, I will say been a bit frustrating seeing that there are a lot of actually Muslim faculty at a lot of these universities who have been very silent to any of them who are watching.

Please speak up, I understand that, you know, your job might be on the line. But these students jobs and careers and futures are also on the line. And they are being very, very brave. And, you know, thinking about what is important in this moment, what is important for our dean? I mean, we're, we're Muslims before, before were professors before we're lawyers before we're students. And Allah tells us in sorts in the SAT Yeah, you have Latina M and Okuno, Amina bulkowski, shahada and Allah here, well, Allah and footsy comb, you know, all you believe the uploads of justice and bears witness to Truth for the sake of Allah, even if it may be against you, yourselves or your kinsmen?

That's, I mean, that's, that's all you need to know. And so I hope that, you know, that faculty support continues to grow. And I hope that we see more of it from Muslim faculty.

I know, at Columbia, there have been some that have been supportive, but there's a lot that have been really silent, including at the law school, and it really has been just disappointing to see. So if you're a student at any of these institutions, you know, have these private conversations with the Muslim professors, especially, you know, see why if they haven't supported you ask why, and see what ways they are willing to because it's, this is this is the time for us to be reaching out to our community be supporting each other? Because if not, now, then when? Yeah. Mashallah. Excellent, excellent advice. And I think I would just add, for everybody who's watching visibility has become a

very powerful thing, right? You know, 510 years ago, when these sorts of things would happen, you know, you would feel like you're the only one going through it. And then when you see your face on the Daxing, van, or whatever it is, then it's very, very difficult, you feel like your life is over is about to end. Now, we have the ability to blast it on Twitter, or on you know, on Instagram on something else. Now, you realize that you're, there's actually very many of you, and you can get together and you can advocate for each other. And you can actually expose the intimidation tactics of other people. And this is a huge thing. So we ask Allah subhanaw taala, to give us the courage,

because what you're talking about all those courage, give us the courage to speak the truth, that's a common theme that we've been running through for the past 100 plus days, being Muslim, you know, taking a stamp seriously has to do with trying to find that courage to have that voice. Because if you try to hide away, it's only going to hurt somebody else. Maybe you maybe you escaped with your neck, you know, but what about the next person, right? And we have to be together, we have to stand up together. It's the only way forward. So thank you so much for all Yeah, you will have a final Sorry, I just have one last thing, just because I am a lawyer and have to say the last thing I

guess. But the the one last thing I want to tell students actually is like this, and this is to help you know, if you ever do need an attorney, it helps us help you document everything. There's a you know, crazy guy on Twitter, who's a professor who's saying all this stuff, like I know it gets really tiring and exhausting, but screenshot it all, if he's sending an email to you and you know, acting kind of weird, even if you're not sure, but you're just suspicious of them, save that email, like any communications that you get agreeing to something disagreeing with something communications with administration with other professors, anything, document all of it, because I'm literally

dealing with situation right now with students who were given permission to send an email about Palestine, their TAs to their students. And then the professor denied giving them their permission and when against them when they were disciplined for doing so. So document everything. You can't honestly at this point, you can't really be too paranoid, the worst case scenario, they're going to screenshots you never use. But in that when time comes, it will help you if you need to defend yourself. Excellent. Pro, thank you so much for joining us tonight. Very, very valuable advice. Second, well, hey, thank you all so much.

Okay, that was very informative and enlightening. Pivoting along to our next sub segment, we've got the conclusion to the book that we've been sort of going through the myth of religious violence and boy is the article said, I'm from Iran. She told me assuming you speak Farsi language that inshallah hopefully one day I'll learn, along with all the other languages of the home.

So we have our grand finale of this book, which means that next time we're going to be transitioning to a new book, and but the ending he ends with a bank, there's a lot, a lot, a lot to cover, so we'll get right into it. That Cavanaugh, his last part of this book as a very, very important book, The Myth of religious violence, is he talks about the use of the myth or the uses of this myth. What myth we're talking

Thinking about the the myth of religious violence, that religious violence that religious people are more violent than non religious people or that religions are the source of all violence or that religion is particularly violent in some sort of particular way. Okay, now why he's asking because he's taken us through and you can go back to our previously recorded episodes. If you're just joining us now, as to what's the anatomy of this myth? Why isn't it historically true? What ideologically is at play here? Okay, but now he's going to answer a really, really important question, which is why? Why did people come up with this myth? What uses what functions does this

myth have? Right? Because we said that, well, we'll get to it. Well, we noticed that he answers he says that this myth, what it does is that it justifies certain types of violence. And it D legitimizes other types of violence. And he brings some really, really interesting examples. So for example, he brings a court case, that happened in 1940, in the United States, where there was a religious group

known as the Jehovah's Witnesses, and they were, there were a bunch of them that were beaten, some of them were even killed. Why they were oppressed, because they refuse to stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. Right. And there was a really interesting dynamic where this court case went all the way to the top of the Supreme Court. And in 1940, the Supreme Court of the United States ruled that the Jehovah's Witnesses were wrong, that they had to stand up for the Pledge of Allegiance. Now, three years later, that was reversed. Okay. So that's an important takeaway for everybody in the United States, you are not legally bound to stand up for the Pledge of Allegiance, that Jehovah's

Witnesses, they, they took one on the chin for us. But what's really interesting is that if you go into the language that the the justices used, when it came to arguing their case, what you start to see from the 1940s on is you see the characterization of religion as a dangerous and divisive force. And this language and this myth, this idea that religion is divisive, or that religion is dangerous, if we let religion into the public sphere, that it's going to cause harm, that this was not the way that people used to think about religion, even in the United States, which is known as a secular country, up until 1940. Okay, so the things that are referenced such as, you know, the wall of

separation between church and state that Thomas Jefferson wrote about, yes, they were on paper, but they weren't the reality of lived experience in the United States. And there's actually a really, really interesting website that I came across, which actually demonstrates that it's called, doesn't we're not going to say to here, but maybe we'll put it later in the description. It shows that the original 13 colonies of North America, all of them had an established church. Okay, which is very strange. If you think about the United States of America, separation of church and state, how's that possible? They not only had an established church, they had established churches, up until and

through the 1800s. Okay, so some of them if I'm looking at looking at a graphic right here, Virginia, from 1600, when it was founded for 224 years, until 1830, they stopped supporting their established Church, New York until 1846, Maryland until 1867, New Hampshire until 1877, and so on and so forth. These original 13 colonies, right? They each of them had

an established church, some of it was the Anglican Church, some of it was Congregationalist, some of those Methodists, they had established churches, so it wasn't the reality on the ground was not what we think when we think, Oh, it's America. It's the Constitution. It's the separation of church and state, that this particular thing was a, it was a recasting of memory that started happening in the 1940s. Now, this has become relevant again, and I there was, unfortunately, not enough time to talk about it. But another thing that happened this past week was this particular headmistress of a school in the UK, who was concerned and moved to prohibit Muslim students from praying. And as she

got up in front of a camera and explained how all of the Muslim students were bullying people and somebody suddenly put on a headscarf, right, and she basically is trying to enforce this idea again, exactly what we see here that Cavanaugh is talking about that religion is it is divisive, that religion is problematic, that it's a force of division and potentially hatred. So this is a very, very, very

Recent way of looking at things, it doesn't even stretch back that far. Even if we go to a place like the United States, what we know as and I referenced, this was just a robot as the lemon test that wasn't even developed until the 70s. Okay, that the 77, there was sort of a process between the 1940s and the 1970s, where the separation of church and state was sort of it was strengthened and strengthened and strengthened. So we had, for example, there were people who tried to stop the government from supporting Catholic schools with money. And so they started using this argument of separation of church and state in order to punish the Catholics. What they didn't realize was that

other groups like atheists would use the same arguments to stop the government from doing anything to support religion whatsoever. So then in the 60s, you had prayer taken out of schools, and then in the 70s. Finally, with lemon versus Kurtzman or Kurtzman, you had what was established as the lemon test, which is now the ruling sort of law of the land of the United States of America, that the Establishment Clause is violated, or if it isn't violated if things are have a secular purpose, or they have a predominantly secular effect, or if there is no entanglement. So they use these three criteria to determine when that separation of church and state has been violated, or when it hasn't.

Anyway, that's particular to the United States. But the main point and the main takeaway for everybody else, is that there are two main functions or consequences of this myth of religious violence that religion is particularly violent and divisive and religious people are particularly irrational and hateful and things like this abroad, okay. So there are certain consequences abroad and there are certain consequences at home at Broad abroad. The myth reinforces and justifies Western attitudes and policies across the world, especially in the Muslim world. It reassures Western people that our violence brings freedom, it brings peace, it brings justice, it brings

democracy and civilization, while their violence brings terror, and oppression and hatred. And this goes from Bernard Lewis to Samuel Huntington, Huntington and their idea of the clash of civilization, right? If you read their works, and I'll spare you from having to read them all, they are very ignorant about the policies that the United States have pursued in the Muslim world and the aggressions and they dismiss them. They basically say that all of the anger towards the United States or towards the Western world, from places in the Middle East, from places in Asia, it's because they're religious, crazy people. That's basically what it says, as opposed to the actual

policies of the United States government or the government of the UK, or things like this, it allows people to change the subject to refocus on well. What about what you're doing? Well, what about this movement? Well, what about that movement, and we've seen this happen over and over again, when it comes to Israel and Palestine, as well, that the myth of religious violence helps to form consent for foreign aggression, by diverting attention away from scrutinizing past policies and their effects. When someone ignites an American flag or occupies or protests, an embassy, the American people suddenly like why do they hate us, they hate us for our freedoms, or something like this, or

a politician comes in and says, Oh, they must hate us for our freedoms, without having any awareness of the policies that have destabilize their societies that have done violence to them, sometimes dropped bombs on them, starve them, or caused any sort of assassinate of their political leaders, or replace them. That's number one. The second consequence of the myth of religious violence is that it establishes some types of violence as good violence. So we see that when it comes to violence for a secular cause, that it is considered good and necessary. And right. So when we look at how the media treats the violence that goes on by the Israelis, right towards again and against the Palestinians,

that it's always just, it's always right. It's always necessary. Whereas any sort of thing that Palestinians do, to resist is considered horrible and dismissed right away. Right. This is

an extreme western bias, and it is rooted in it is rooted in this myth of religious violence as folks like Sam Harris and Chris Hitchens. Right in their works, they will criticize all day the torturing of witches, right during the history of Christianity as something that is by

barbaric, but they will justify the torture of quote unquote terrorists in order for secular interests. So this is something that is completely inconsistent, and not based in historical fact, I'll read you one last quote, and then we'll move on. And this is we'll end the book with this and we'll conclude it, because Kevin Hill talks about the Palestine and he talks about the ISRAEL PALESTINE situation, and he's writing in 2009. So we see how things don't change. Right. So he says, For Berman and he's quoting some person, the Israeli logic of crushing the Palestinians under a blanket of greater violence is perfectly rational, if perhaps regrettable, while the futility of the

Palestinian attacks against the superior force is evidence of madness, Berman is right to refuse any justification for attacks on civilians as Dewey we refuse the justification for attacks on civilians. But he goes further to insist that any explanations are also impossible. This move guarantees that the blanket of greater violence imposed by the Israeli occupation is always seen as a response to and never an aggravating factor in the futility and madness of Palestinian violence. Burman rules out a priority meaning ahead of the game upfront, any serious consideration of the actual root causes and history of the Israeli Palestinian conflict by declaring one side to be mad

before any empirical work is done. And that could have been written today. It could have been written 10 years ago, it could have been written 20 years ago, it could have been written 40 years ago, it is still true. The Myth of religious violence lies underneath and is responsible for these double standards and this asymmetry.

Anybody have questions? Make sure you send them in. We're running a little bit over time tonight, but it's going to be fine. Inshallah, I hope you're enjoying it as much as I am. We have one last segment tonight. Before we get to, before we get to take any final questions. And that is following up on our daily habits. So one of the things that we've done here is we have attempted to help uplift each other with daily habits by following the daily habits of the Prophet salallahu Alaihe Salam. And last time we talked about will. And we talked about the importance of being intentional and aware in your window. And I want to ask everybody who's watching Daniella Kadri. Han, right born

of silence, everybody who's watching? How was your experience? In the past week did you attempt to?

Did you attempt to pay attention to your will do? Did you attempt to see almost in front of your eyes, the sins falling off of your different limbs? Did you take it slower? Were you able to notice any sort of difference with your Whoo, I'll say that even though I struggle with some of the other things that we've been talking about implementing, I've still been able to keep on the habit of not looking at the phone or messages or anything like that until after fetcher and vicar. Hamdulillah.

Just to be upfront, I've struggled with the night prayer, I've had some things and it's been it's you know, Hamdulillah you have setbacks, and you have triumphs. But I have tried, and the the task for us this week I had was to pay attention. And so you're in although all the time hamdulillah that's great. That's from the Sunnah of the Prophet. So I said, I'm to always be in what have you done, Allah will do. But when we do make will do, that we're trying to pay attention to that, well, it's not just automatic, it's not just slapping water around, okay? And that if we want a better prayer, then paying attention in our window and being more intentional and realize what is going on,

the wiping of our sins away, during will do is going to help us have a better prayer. So I would rate myself maybe like 40% right for the past week, maybe 40% of the time, I was able to I was able to keep that in mind and remember and have a better will do and I think you know Subhanallah I think I think it did have an effect for myself. And I hope I hope it had a positive effect for you. So if you tried this or if you were with us last week and had this little assignment, let us know how did it work for you to focus on to focus on your model.

So the next thing that we have I think we have guys in the studio I think we have a clip to play if I'm not mistaken.

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is saying that the way

to the halal Jana be Salam. The Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam is saying that the way the society is going to be established and distinct

Wish itself, the secret ingredient beyond what we already know of the good things that Allah has put in us to naturally inclined towards the secret ingredient is going to be that those same people that are spreading peace, those same people that are feeding the poor, those same people that are working, are not making an excuse for themselves, to not fight with their bodies and stand up to replenish their souls at night. This is what's going to be your secret ingredient to building this society Oh, unsalted in a way that no one has ever built a society before. This is where it's going to come down to the characters that build the culture of Medina was so noble lady when Estonia

mashallah, so we have very, very powerful words from Sheikh Omar about the necessity. And all of us fell fall short. And we asked Allah subhanaw taala to aid us and assist us in this. But when it comes to all the things that we're talking about, and you know, with me, you get you get faith, you get politics, you get it all wrapped up into one. But if we're talking about seriously wanting to make a change, we're only going to go as far as our sincerity will take us. And we're only only going to go as far as our character will take us that the tools for changing society are the same more or less as the tools for changing yourself. Right. And so one of the key technologies that

Allah subhanaw taala gave us and the Prophet salallahu alayhi salam gave us to change ourselves is the night prayer. Is that to hedge it, right? And so if that doesn't motivate us, right, and we said before you have a Shafi Rahim Allah, He said, If you want something,

like if you want something, for example, you want Palestine to be free. You want justice on Earth.

If we're not making night prayers for it,

then we're not sincere. That was according to McAfee. And we ask Allah subhanaw taala for assistance with it. So now that we're motivated to get into our night prayers, okay, I am and I hope you are too. What did the Prophet SAW? He said, um, say, some of the things that he said in his night prayers, and what are the lessons that that we have, we're going to look at to duat that he would make, because obviously he would recite Quran, you know, whatever you recite that's between you and Allah. But when it comes to some of the DUA, some of them are really, really important. And remember, this is how the Prophet SAW I said, I'm just starting off his day, right? He's doing this

before he does anything before he goes out to take care of his livelihood, you know, milk, the sheep, whatever he has to do. So this is setting him up for success the rest of the day. One of the Duat we, he had, he made Yeah, and we have here the guys in studio got it up. Michelle. Oh, they're ahead of me. Aloha my local hand and and also Marathi. Well, oh, well, I can Hamed and Takashi musoma Was he was out well, I can hand interrupt Busan I was one of three things we're not going to be able to do a word by word translation time doesn't permit. But there's two aspects I think this thus far that pop out to me from looking at how this is one of the throughout the prophecies that

I'm would open his prayer with, okay, so do I list it? Okay, you make Allahu Akbar and you say a DUA, he would often use this to, to open up his night prayers. It's all gratitude. It starts with gratitude. Right? And we talked about gratitude for another day, right? You you woke up? It was like, it was like a resurrection. Every day, you're resurrected. All right? So Allah is reminding you that he's gonna resurrect you, when it really counts the big time.

So we're grateful. We're sorry, you, you have the praise the praises for you the praises for you. And what you do, you are the one that runs and controls and sustains this entire universe.

Right? So imagine you haven't even gone to work yet. Maybe you've got stressed maybe you've got bills, maybe you've got things that you're maybe you're in a precarious situation. But you're starting your day with this. Remember, this reminder to be grateful and to realize that ALLAH SubhanA wa Tada ALLAH SubhanA, Allah is in control of everything. He goes on to say, and tell Huck Well, why do cattle Hawk will call the local hawk? Well, they all will call Hawk is that you are the truth. And your promise is the truth and your statement or your speech is the truth and meaning you is the truth. And then he continues on and Jana is true, and the fire is true and the prophets are

true, and the hour is true.

Right? So we see all of these sorts of we're getting perspective, the prophesy setup is getting prospective. Before you, you know, I don't know your kid knocks over the glass of juice and spills it on your nice skirt and you yell at them or something like that perspective.

Perspective, right? Is that the things that really matter, Allah subhanaw taala and his promise of gender and the afterlife and forgiveness and His speech the

Korea and meeting him and Jen and Paradise and hellfire punishment, the prophets that our everything. These are the most essential things for you to remember as you go throughout your day.

And then he says so then there's like an action point that he ends with like the final third of the Dalai Lama Leca slim to? Well because I am and to is that I have it's almost like an aspirational statement, right? Like you stand in the mirror and you say, you know, I'm going to be the best today or I'm going to do this. This is almost like an aspirational statement. Or it says, I've submitted to you and I believe in you, and I rely upon you and I turn to you or you know, resign myself to you. And I complain to you and I seek your ruling and everything. So forgive me for what I've done for what I've sent ahead and what I have delayed and what is secret and what is hidden Subhanallah

right, so you see, okay, masha Allah Daniela tried it and she said mashallah, she experienced a lot more focus. That's the what I want to hear under the law, I have the same experience. So we see that Subhanallah this is your this is your starting off your day with this. Look at how it calibrates you look at how it sets you up for success in the dunya and in the afterlife and then we have one word so how the prophesy Saddam would begin His flute Okay, so you know that you're now you've made your DUA is to attack you've done a 30 How you do other the Koran you do other rokerites however many are comfortable for you. Now you're going to pray with her. You raise your hands into

what would the prophets of Allah how to use and I'm often say in this last crucial part of his dua Allahumma dynorphin men had aid Well, if human female our feet were to weld on a female into a later Berkeley, female athlete, okay? Some of the points here that Allah subhanaw taala stresses or,

or I should say the prophesy some, this there's a communal aspect to this, which is really interesting, okay. It's not just Allahumma inni like, oh, Allah guide me, guide me, among those who have mu have got it. So this isn't, isn't just like an intellectual exercise that Allah subhanaw taala has guided people, like the prophets, and those are your examples in your role models to follow and to imitate because as human beings how we learn best and part of the wisdom of sending the Prophet SAW, etc. And not just sending the Koran as a book, and here you go, you got the instruction manual, is because we need a, an example. We need a role model, especially kids, they

demonstrate this time and time again that we learn best through modeling. And so we want to be guided among people who are guided, we want to have rfef, wellbeing, holistic well being among those who do we ask Allah for botica what better than a female athlete? And we ask, we don't ask for more. We don't ask for more, we ask for blessing, which is profound. Allah subhanaw taala we want him to bless what we have. We don't want just more and more give me more money and more how and a bigger house and more you know, as Okay, everybody loves that. But anybody can have that. And it's not going to do anything for you. What is better to ask for and by studying the DUA the prophesy Saddam,

we learn how to ask a lot. We learn how to ask Allah. And so he says, and put blessing in what you've given us. Whatever you've given us, if you've given me a lot, you've given me a little just bless it. That's much, much more important than you giving me more multinational America. Right. Right. And protect me from the evil that you have determined that you have judged in decree that will happen, because you are the one who judges and Nobody judges over your judgment. You are the one who a basis, right? Or you are the one who who honors to better off turn up an avatar late and you are the most majestic. And we've gone over time. But you know, for that do we really, you know,

can excuse it, because it's really, really a wonderful and important to, and it's really crucial. I can't stress enough how crucial it is to ponder. And to have to do both. We know about having to double up the core. And that's true. We also need to have the devil of the devil is sort of deep meditation on the dua of the prophesy center. How did he make to what did he make that for? What didn't he make that for? What did he pair together? What did he sort of leave? Right? These sorts of things are extremely important and instructive. So we'll take any final questions that we have for everybody.

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yes, if everything is going crazy around you, you can always rely on the night press. How's it going? My favorite late night snack?

Usually cashews, I like I really like cashews. I usually have various types of nuts laying around. I'm a protein snack guy. Right? Not too many sweets, not too many carbs, just try to keep it with protein.

And I didn't learn that from Sheikh Abdullah adura. But I'm sure he'd probably agree.

So

the first thing I said was do Alice data, right? So it's one of the DUA the Prophet saw a sudden would make when he is entering into the prayer, right? So Allahu Akbar, right? And then you may have to do is to commence the prayer to start the prayer, right kind of orienting your heart, or if you want to think about taking aim with an arrow, that this is something that you know, it's like you're taking aim with your arrow, the quality of your DUA, the quality of your prayer, it might depend in part upon the quality of your dua that you mentioned. The first Shaka Ma said would you have Uighur activists on for an interview? Yes, absolutely. We would 100%

will be honored

maybe you can maybe this is something anybody can can answer Sheikh Omar, what's your favorite late night snack?

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If we intend I'm trying to follow this excuse me, it's getting late here. If we intend to wake up for tahajjud then we have to leave with her in the first part of the night and only pray shot right. I'm a little confused. I what I think that you're asking is if I pray shot, and I'm considering Okay, am I going to pray with her now? Or am I going to wait

until before Fajr? Then is it better to pray with her early or later obviously, if all else being equal, it's better to pray Witter in the last hour of the night. But praying with her period is better than not praying it. Now if you want to get into some crazy stuff, you can look into some of the actions of the setup would actually make up with her.

After fidget if they missed it. We have we have narrations about that. Which is strange to a lot of people because a lot of people they think oh you know I missed it. That's how he is that's how what's the word? Keen. Okay, that's how keen people from the first generation the second third generation of Muslims would be on their night prayers, that they would even try to make it up or at least what they could when they woke up. I think most of them India. May Allah aid your

question from sitting on a mountain. I wish I was sitting on a mountain right now and I felt a lot of cola do maybe I'll go to Malaysia and sit on the mountain that sounds like a lovely time. Do you have to fall asleep to pray to hedge it? No, you don't. What if you stay up all night? Does that count? Yeah, sure.

Very good.

Can you tell us a story okay Sheikh Omar, he's bringing the gemstone mashallah, ha ha ha. Okay, can you tell us a story of one of your teachers and their pm

I can tell you know, this is this is really

I had the benefit of making our Umrah with

Sheikh Mohammed salah, and I always joke when Mohammed Salah, the football player, know the sheikh for what a TV

banana chips is another good one I share my salah and I really really enjoyed

praying pm with him. I didn't pray for them with many of my teachers in Medina, but I prayed to TM

several times with Sheikh Mohammed Salah and one of the things that really really left an impression on me and being on camera with Sheikh Mohammed Salah in general. You have this feeling that you're just there with him. Like you have the feeling that he just does this every day of the year and it's just the it's just normal for him. And it's like being with him. He just kind of you're just kind of along for the ride. Even the way he breaks his cord and sometimes if he's pretty he's leading

pmla And he's got people behind him he'll recite kind of quietly you have to listen really carefully to hear him as

If he's just by himself

as if he's just by himself, you know, so that was something that I really, I really got that feeling from him and his family and I was very very impressed by it.

Salt Vinegar chips are nice to Valerie. They're nice too. I like salt and vinegar chips not necessarily for midnight snack but you know in general Okay, Mashallah. Well, it's getting late here. We've been

Yeah, Mashallah. Lodi lake. I shall it's getting late, at least on the east coast will I think we're gonna sign off and let everybody go tonight. But we appreciate the wonderful interaction as always, and joining us for this wonderful time together. It's a time that we cherish together. I believe next week. Next week. We're taking a break. Yes, because I'll be traveling unfortunately, I'll be in a plane up in the air somewhere. So we will not have our regularly regularly scheduled live stream next week. So we'll skip a week, but we'll be back at it Inshallah, the week after and we really appreciate

this time that we shared together. May Allah bless it and may Allah resurrect us together on the Day of Judgment Szczepanik along with Hemlock and stump for those who will exterminate them after that