The Deen Show – Atheist, Aliens & God in Islam

The Deen Show
AI: Summary © The segment discusses the new pan optimization of the world and the importance of religious degrees. It emphasizes the need for researching the teachings of Christianity and the importance of understanding the tenets of faith in Islam. The speakers stress the need for more time to convince people about the origins of life and the potential for evolution through natural selection. They also discuss the use of technology to achieve understanding of the world and the importance of understanding the tenets of faith in Islam.
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They're saying it came from aliens. Where did the aliens come from? Where did the aliens get the quality of life? Oh, they got it from other aliens. And where did they get it from?

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If Islam subjugates women

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Why is the greatest number of converts to to Islam in the first world countries America, Europe and so on? Well, why why are they predominantly women?

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greetings of peace. Welcome to the D show Dr. Brown Peace be with us on LinkedIn. How are you doing?

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Good, thanks. What Why do they call it new atheism is something new that never existed? Let's get right into the topic. You've been doing some wonderful work refuting it, but I want to start off with Why do they call it the new atheism? You know, really, to be honest with you, I just like to call it what it is. It's atheism, new old, whatever. It's, I mean, what what is particularly new about atheism, I think, you know, I'm not sure why they call it the new atheism. But what I do know is that the face of atheism has changed in that. Whereas it existed in the past as something quite kind of quiet, people were atheist, and I just sort of kept to themselves. Now it has become almost

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Well, not almost frankly, evangelical, and in that they are calling people to atheism, they are advertising it, they're making aggressive campaigns, to gather people toward atheism. And that is a shift and that is something something new and different. Yeah, seems like they have their atheist prophets now proselytizing, trying to win the hearts to this belief that something came from nothing that how does it go in a nutshell?

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Hmm, there were an accident, because by saying you're, you're basically an atheist, you're just an accident that happened. Purpose less instead of purposeful. Can we say that?

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You're an accident? And look, I mean, if you if you're asking me basically, what is the focus of atheist beliefs? It's exactly what you know, a theism means no, God, they just simply believe in that there is no God. So if we were atheists, we'd be two accidents. Well,

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you know, this is not exactly how they see it. But I mean, they see it, as you know, they see us as the process of development, from the beginning of the universe with the Big Bang, and then the process of evolution through natural selection. You know, it's basically their way of explaining where we came from. Yeah. And this is something that I touched on, on my talks called the big questions, the big questions. These are on my I've read those. Yeah, yeah. It's in an article and it's in my on my website as series. What's your website called? People go to Sita? Well, it is level truth. It used to be called level truth calm, and I will still call it level truth calm, but it is

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being changed to just my name Dr. Lawrence Or Dr. l. So that's Dr. Dr. Lawrence Brown, if you didn't know he is a former US Navy major was Air Force, Air Force major was an atheist, tried very hard to be a Christian in the link below will have his previous show. You also have a website, that you're talking about level truth that you're changing it to not lose money. And another thing I wanted to mention, has a PhD or as a doctor in divinity. Yeah, okay. But you know, I think it's I think it's time to be clear about this. I don't value religious degrees at all. I don't value I'm just saying you got Yeah, okay. I got when you're an expert in comparative

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religion. Will they listen, that's what a I can introduce you one. Listen, let's get back to this.

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I'm gonna bow out of this. I'll say no, I do. I do want to make a point about this. Okay. Yeah. All right. I mean, you can say that I have these degrees. Personally, I consider religious degrees to be basically worthless, anybody can get one? Well, that's not quite true. You do have to work for you do anyone can get a doctorate degree in eye surgeon be surgery? No, of course not. But you know, these are different things. No degree a doctorate in eye surgery is much more regulated. There are much more strict requirements. No, listen, just, you know, just so you know. I mean, pretty much anybody can go on to the internet and get a Doctorate of divinity or

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Become an ordained priest. I mean, it's it's not particularly I got to do. And and the point I'm just making is I don't care if you have masters, and a PhD, I don't care if you have 10 PhDs, I don't care if it's from, you know, the Istanbul School of Theology and radiator repair, or if it's from Harvard or Oxford, okay? It doesn't, it doesn't matter, because this is not how people choose religion, people don't choose religion by the smartest guy out there with the with the best degree, if that were the case, everybody would be following the pope or whoever you know, or, you know, whoever is considered to be the most eminent theologian in the world. But that's not how people

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choose religion is religion, people choose religion, by what makes sense to them. And what conforms to their template, their inner template of beliefs. Yeah, if you

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hear this is something I can't wrap my mind around, maybe you can help us, me and others. With this, even if you

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are an atheist, and you argue evolution at a micro level, not a macro level, whatever the case, how do you get to the point that there was an initiator who initiate it with the universe and everything? So what Okay, let's say hypothetically, evolution, and man was a some ape, chimpanzee, and now whatever, and you have faith in this, how does that still exclude that the creator of the Almighty? Okay, good question. Really great question. Because here's the crux of the matter. Atheists explain the universe, having come into existence through the Big Bang, and they explain the diversity of species through the, you know, the process of evolution as a result of natural

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selection. Okay. Now, what I think you're asking is basically referring to the point that I made previously, which is, how does that how does that contribute to the atheist debate? Why can't we understand that the Big Bang? And if there were evolution by the process of natural selection, I'm not saying there is? I'm not saying there, you know, was or that there wasn't? I'm just saying that, if that is how the, you know, the diversity of species developed?

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Why does that change the debate? Why does that mean that there's no God can't, can't we consider the possibility that God used these devices, as the process by which he brought the universe into existence, but as the process by which he brought the diversity of species into existence? it it's very, very, very capricious to say that, because we think that we have, you know, figured out how the Big Bang happened. And by the way, you know, we've plotted some things back, but the moment of origin is a mystery. But, and, you know, we think we understand how evolution could have worked through the process of natural selection. Okay, so what? So what I mean, aren't our minds large

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enough to conceive of the possibility that our Creator created the Big Bang, and then exerted control over it to to keep it?

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You know, basically, from degenerating into chaos?

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Can't we consider that the process of natural selection is not a random process, but is rather the device that our Creator used to bring out the diversity of natural species. So this, you know, this argument doesn't doesn't work in negating God. But what it does work in negating certain religions, when those views do not conform with religion, for example, as Muslims, as Muslims, our scripture tells us that the universe is expanding and continuing to expand, and is telling us that it was a law that expanded our universe, and that it's continuing to expand. So we have no problem with the Big Bang. You know, for the religion of Islam, these scientific concepts can exist within our

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religion, you can be a Muslim and believe in the Big Bang, and you have no problem. You're just believing in the Big Bang as the as the mechanism that our Creator put in put into place to bring the universe into existence. And it's the same thing with the theory of evolution and natural selection. Again, whether you believe in it don't believe in it doesn't matter. Just doesn't matter. Because you can you know, as a Christian, you might have problems with it. As a Muslim, we have no problem with it. We just say a few modifications, you know, we we believe that the human being was a separate creation, separate from the animals did not evolve from the apes.

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And certainly if you believe in a God, is that not within the realm of his capabilities?

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If you don't believe in a god, no, okay, that was different. But if you do believe in a God who

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could create this universe and everything upon it? Is it not within the realm of his capabilities to create the human organism? Do you think what's pushed many people towards this new atheism is the idea that many people have of God, this fictitious character that's been created in the minds of people like, for instance, who we love dearly Jesus, peace be on people have made him a human being into God, people have made creation into God. But when you accept Islam, we actually start off with the proclamation, there is no God, anything in creation, except the one who created creation, who's outside of creation, do you think you get my point that they go through it is towards this because

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of all these human gods that people have? concocted these fictitious Gods like making Jesus peace be upon a mighty messenger? Who that people take as a guide and other saints and all these other weird superstitions and weird things that are ascribed to to God? Okay, you get when you get my point? Well, I do. And I mean, actually, and then people are just like, this can't be God, this monkey are worshipping this cow, a human being that has a color and nationality, you know, walks onto Earth, goes to the bathroom, and then people just get turned off by this. Yeah, no, I get your point. And actually, my daughter and I were just talking about this today, we had a very nice conversation

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about this, because, you know, there, you know, there are another a number of kind of relevant quotes. I mean, one is that if God were small enough to be understood, he would not be big enough to be worshipped. Okay. I mean, it's kind of like that old analogy about people examining an elephant blindfolded. And this was my daughter's, you know, my daughter's mentioned she was she was saying, it's kind of like that. And I said, Yes, it is. Because you know, one person, one blindfolded person feels the leg and other blind person blindfolded person feels the ear and other one feels the tail and other one feels the trunk. And so they all come away with a different concept of what an

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elephant is. Hmm. All right. Now, if if you never saw an elephant, you would only have that experience, and you would feel completely certain that you know what an elephant is. All right, but in fact, you've only had a very very small exposure. And so you're ignorant you really have no concept of what the elephant is like as a whole well, so it is with our Creator our religion tells us Lisa committed at home Shay There is nothing like onto him.

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There is if there is nothing like unto him there is nothing in this world the creation that we can use as a reference by which to understand him allow may have a Facebook, but it's not like yours and mine because Lisa Come with me home Shay There is nothing like unto Him alone may have a hand is it like this hand? Of course not. Because there is nothing like unto him nothing, nothing like his hand. So, so we, we, we know that he has certain properties and properties, you know, mercy and love and this and so on. But, and, and we know he has certain you know, qualities, but we cannot quantitative or qualitative or even envision what those things are. Okay. Now, there's, there's just

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another thought, which is basically if our Creator were,

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you know, with within our vision, I mean, if we were able to see our Creator for our Creator or small enough that we could see him

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he would be an idol.

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And, you know, this is just another point, you know, the atheist demand proof proof, you know, I got to see God with my own eyes. I'm gonna show him show him to me in our show me proof of him, which is a subject we can come back to but you know, that they expect to want to be able to see him with their own eyes. Well, whose rules art at art? Who, whose rules govern this universe? I mean, if our Creator wishes for his, you know, his existence to be shrouded in mystery that's his decision not ours. Yeah. We're gonna take a break so you could be honored with the title this is son, the son of Adam first man. People would take strong offense if you said this is the son of a monkey Think about

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that. We'll be right back with more of my special guest good friend Dr. Lawrence Brown. Don't go anywhere. Salaam says love all mankind. That's why we're sharing this message because we want the best for you and we want the best for all mankind. Please subscribe to the show. Follow us on our official Facebook and Twitter pages in the links below. Please also help support the show by making a donation in the link below.

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Welcome back to the Dean's show special guest all the way from Medina.

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Dr. Lawrence Brown was

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What is the crucial core belief that most atheism is hold on to and if this belief is taken refuted that it will just crumble? Well, atheist believes atheism believes are most atheists. But

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the one core belief, okay, well,

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I mean, obviously, they believe that there is no God. And the argument that's used to substantiate if this is refuted, everything crumbles.

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Right? Well,

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I mean, there certainly are a number of those. I mean, if you could disprove evolution by the process of natural selection, if you could disprove the Big Bang, and so on, the their scientific frame of reference would disappear.

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And that's kind of a long discussion. I think, actually, we should come back to that. But

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I think the, you know, the bigger issue is just that.

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Most atheists that I've known their hearts and their minds are pretty much sealed. They're, they're not, they're not willing to consider other possibilities. You know, they're not even willing to consider the possibility of a god. I think, one point I would make is that they have this

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you know, they have this saying it's called, you know, Hitchens razor, and it's basically a theory that whatever can be proposed without proof can can be negated without proof. You know, what, if you if you say that there's a God and you don't have proof, then you can equally well say that there's no God without proof, okay? And it's just kind of dancing around the subject, because you can just turn that around. Well, if you say there's no God without proof, then I can say that there is a God without proof. You know, this is this is a matter of belief. It's a belief system, okay? You either feel the presence of God or don't or to speak in even more

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nonspecific terms. crater, let's just talk about crater. Some people are upset even by the word of God, you know the word God, okay? And they rightly recognize that the word God does not have any origin in Scripture, it is a name or a word of uncertain origin, it is nowhere in the Bible, okay? I mean, if you look at the Bible, and you know, it's untranslated language, you will not find God in the Bible. Okay? And that's, that's what we find in our translations. Yes, but not in the original. Okay, so in any case, I mean, the point is just that they don't believe in God, that's, that's their template. Okay. And, and that's certainly what where I was, when I was an atheist,

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I experienced the awakening of

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a feeling of the presence of my Creator. What I did not experience what was I did not experience a change in my scientific convictions. Okay, I believed in the Big Bang, I believed in,

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in the process of natural selection. And until this day, I argue that you can believe in those things and still be a person of spiritual spirituality and a person of religion. Now, I tried very hard, I tried very hard to accept the Jewish and the Christian religions, I tried very hard to understand them enough to make sense of them. And that never worked for me. Okay. And part of the message that I'm trying to put out, is that, you know, atheists have, from what I've seen, they have a very, very strong hatred of Christianity, or what it stands for, or its theology, and they pick very well upon, you know, in consistencies within the religion or hypocrisy, these

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things, things that they can point to, and basically question how, I mean, where does this tenant of faith come from?

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And and show precisely that, you know, most, most Christian beliefs actually did not come from the teachings of Jesus, they come from the teachings of Paul and who was the Prophet anyway?

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You know, and, and they can show that many of the beliefs did not have a biblical basis. You know, for example, the Trinity is nowhere in the Bible. Oh, sure. Oh, sure. You will find some things that might suggest it but look a little bit deeper. And you'll find that you know, that these things, many Bibles have taken them out because they have been recognized as inaccurate insertions. They do not exist in the foundational scripture. They exist in the translation, but only because it was a marginal note of a scribe. That was

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Taken from the margin into the Scripture, it was a note of a scribe. It was not scripture. Okay? So, you know, without becoming preachy or going into the whole big analysis, you can you can look, you can look this up in my books on my website, again, it's level truth, calm, level truth calm, and that's changing to Dr. LBB, calm, Dr. LBB, calm, but, you know, read misguided. And you will find all the information you want on this subject and more. There's a chapter just on the Trinity and, and many other points of Christian theology. That's not the point. The point is this.

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A lot of a lot of atheists, part of their atheism is just an absolute disdain of Christianity. And the message I'm trying to get across is, well, yeah, there are other people out there who are very religious, and I'm talking about Muslims. Now. They're very religious. And they're not Christian, they're Muslim. And Islam has always been a religion

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of science, as well as spirituality. I mean, we have to remember that much of the roots of biology, physiology, medicine, chemistry, physics, mathematics, and so on.

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Grew up from the Islamic religion, the Islamic religion encourages intelligence and investigation. And for us to know our physical world and, and so on. So the early the early Muslims experienced this explosion in knowledge that led to the first universities like the University of Cordoba, and so on would, you know, and the centers of Islamic knowledge, became known as the centers not only of, you know, Islamic religion, but also Science and Learning.

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And it was it was from it was from these origins, that so much of science has grown. Yes, so we, because that's what usually people think, either a like, when you believe in God, okay, they equate it with the tooth fairy, or Santa Claus, or that you're anti science. But all along Islam, actually, when people were in the dark ages, Islam was actually leading the way in science. And it's interesting, because nowadays, we see sciences, figuring out the how of things like you just were kind enough out of your love, you brought me a gift, edge, what date. So if I was to take that edge of a date, to a scientists, the scientists can give me the calorie account. He can give me all of

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the intricate details, the protein and nutrition, this vitamin, this vitamin, but he can, and that's a beautiful thing. But just because we figure out the how, why do people stop there, but that scientists can never tell me who brought me that date? Or the intention behind it and why? So it's limited in the sense, but that doesn't mean we reject the how, but it seems like people now we know how lightning strikes how the clouds come? Just because we know the how people say we figured it out. We don't need God. I can't understand that. Well, okay. But that's because you're religious, that's because you're spiritual. And, you know, just to be clear, you know, I don't think that they,

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I don't think the atheist demote the concept of creator to the truth, or, or Santa Claus, except in the sense that they basically say that it is, you know, belief in these entities is the same as without foundation. But there's a big difference. And that is that the tooth fairy doesn't tell us that the tooth fairy exists. Santa Claus does not tell us that.

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But God does tell us that He exists. And if you are a person of science, science is a process of investigation. Now you might not be able to accept the tenets of Christian faith, I'm with you there, I don't accept them either. You might not be able to accept the tenets of, of Jewish faith, I'm with you. I don't accept them either. But you should be able to look back at these religions and research them enough to find that there is commonality of certain of certain elements. And so for example, they all teach monotheism at its core, like I said, read my book, it's free download from the website, you don't have to pay a cent. But you'll find that the New Testament does not teach the

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Trinity the idea of the Divine sonship of Jesus Christ.

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The you know, the idea of the laws of the laws of the religion having changed, etc, etc, etc. These were all inventions that were ushered in by other than Jesus Christ, okay, if you read if you read the Bible, okay, looking just at the teachings of Jesus Christ, three times three times in the Bible, he's asked what is the greatest commandment and he says, No Israel.

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The LORD your God is one God that is the greatest commandment okay? The LORD your God is his one now

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that's monotheism so you have a common you have a common thread through through these religions from Abraham to you know on up Ismail Isaac, how long would you say that would be about 10,000 years Jesus, Moses, okay, just wait, let me finish the, the The point being there's commonality in the thread, there's commonality of Revelation, okay, every time the revelation got corrupted, it was incumbent upon our Creator to renew it. So you have common you have continuity in the chain of revelation continuity in the chain of profits. And one thing that stands out is through all of these works, the aqeedah, or the creed remains the same, the creed of monotheism, the creative of profit

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being a man, not a god. Okay, another, you know, another mistake that is commonly made in Christianity. So, you know, all All I'm saying is that if you do your research, you find that there are commonalities,

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which basically point to an explanation for why there is a continuity in the chain of Revelation and continuity in the chain of profits, which lead up to a final prophet, and a clarifying revelation. Yeah, that's remained unchanged, none to this day. And, and you don't have to separate religion and science, you do have to in the religions with which it is not compatible. Okay, so, so Christianity, like I said, you know, you can't make sense of the Big Bang and evolution in the context of Christianity, or Judaism, but you can in Islam, because Islam is a religion of science. Yeah. How long would you say how many, over the span of how many years 1000s of years? Did this chain of

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continuity, the same message has been delivered, delivered from all these? How long approximately, is that? Somewhere around 10,000 years from, from when all of the profits were passing along this message from one? And it would have to be from all these years from them? I couldn't even say it because because, you know, the original revelation was oral. Yeah. And, and our Creator tells us that no population was left without, you know, with without a messenger, somebody bringing Yeah, so the point I'm trying to make for all of these prophets that are still known today, messengers, Moses, Abraham, Jesus, Solomon, David, Ishmael, all of them, when you look back, like you're saying,

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bringing the same message, not a trinity, not Christianity, but submission to the will of the Creator, their followers and their followers, it seemed like, it's that's far fetched, that they had conspired together, to to this day to bring that message. That makes sense, sense. It fits make sense of it all the purpose of life, why we're here, the day of judgment, and all of these things, if you ponder over, it's things that are good for humanity, good for society, good for yourself. And you're not just an accident that happened, you know, okay, granted, but we have to deal with what we have, again, you know, atheists are, you know, are people who like to deal on logic they like to

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deal in the things that we have, you know, we have in our hands to hold and that is the revelations we have, we can't really go back beyond that to sort of sort of make supposition about what the prophets who are bearing the oral messages were teaching. All we can say is that our Creator tells us that no population was left without a messenger. And again, this does make sense in the continuity of the chain of revelation that at a time when there was no communication between tribes and so on wherever they were in the world, our Creator provided them with revelation so that they had a chance to either submit or not, and they're upon they are judged, okay. But when mankind

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developed the facility for recording the message in writing, and then developed communication between the tribes and so on and so forth, then this process became a lot easier because once a revelation was recorded, that revelation could be copied and passed on to others, but every time it became corrupted, okay, every time it became corrupted, it was you know, it was it became incumbent upon the creator to renew the revelation so that he would not leave us without guidance. Yeah.

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to you you mentioned logical i don't i don't agree there I think it's very illogical that something would come from nothing I it's logical that a man wouldn't be God that Wait Wait, wait, wait let's come back to that. Yeah. Because when you do talk to an atheist when you really start getting deep got it got it, but I'm just I'm they start becoming illogical. I'm just saying like, we've got what like two minutes left in this five minutes? We'll give you five minutes. Okay, this is just not gonna work. I mean, I mean, look, and then they start talking about UFOs and flying saucers and all these strict undersurfaces seems logical, but when you really start dialoguing and talking, it

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becomes really illogical. Okay, look, if we've got five minutes talk to me, tell him

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Just talk to you about one of those things. But what I've got to say, yeah, if you want to talk about, you know what atheists see as the as the origin and how we came into existence, you got to give me more time we got to do another episode. So what you just said about the aliens, okay, here, here's one point there. You know, the atheists are basically academic, they're intellectuals, they like to think that they have it all figured out. But there's one thing that they cannot explain about the process of evolution via natural selection. And that is where the quality of life came from. Scientists can Frankenstein together a body of an animal or a human being using perfectly

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functioning organs, but they can't make it live. They cannot even make you know, a single celled organism live they cannot construct it, they cannot give it the property of life. Wait, wait a minute, if Islam subjugates women,

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why is the greatest number of converts to to Islam in the first world countries America, Europe and so on? Well, why why are they predominantly women that are literally shocked to death or that think about the animal that wills itself to death? All right. I mean, there are some animals that mourn themselves to death. I had a cockatoo that when I when I gave it to somebody else for for for caretaking during my absence, the cockatoo died in two days. If you don't die from lack of food or lack of water in two days, this cockatoo was so sad, so saddened by my absence in the absence of my family, that it literally willed itself to death. Now, think about people who die from electrical

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shock. Think about people who die from heart attack. Okay, some of them come back with CPR. But what about the ones who don't come back with CPR? We cannot bring those bodies back to life. So what is that indefinable quality of life? How does natural selection explain that? Now, here's the point. There's an old joke about, you know, the scientist who is giving a talk about creation. And there's an old lady, old old lady who stands up in the audience afterwards, you know? And she says, Oh, you know, really, you're so ignorant. You're so ignorant. Don't you know that this entire world is balanced on the back of a giant turtle?

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And the scientists as Aha, you know, well, tell me. Tell me, what is the turtle standing on?

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And the old lady just looks at him and says, You are so stupid. You're so stupid. It's turtles all the way down.

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Now, everybody laughs What an ignorant old lady. It's turtles all the way down? How silly.

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Okay, fast forward to modern day, okay. You have a scientist standing up on stage. And he's talking about Big Bang is the origin of the universe and evolution through natural selection as the explanation for the diversity of life as we know it today. asked him where the life came from, you know what their answer is now the most common answer that they're giving now. It came from outer space.

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Once again, just like what we're talking about, that doesn't answer anything. Yeah, they're saying it came from aliens? Where did the aliens come from? Where did the aliens get the quality of life? Oh, they got it from other aliens? And where did they get it from? What is the origin of the aliens? What's the origin of the quality of life? Other aliens, other aliens, other aliens? Now you've got these so called intelligent scientists looking like this ignorant old lady in the audience. Instead of saying that it's turtles all the way down? They're saying it's aliens all the way up? Yeah.

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Now, I mean, just think about that for a minute. These These are what I would call the, you know, the ignorant, intelligent people. Yeah, they're intelligent in a book learned way. But they haven't thought their argument out. And I think just to set the record straight. I mean, there's mainstream. And I think many of these kind of scientists have hijacked what we perceive now as today as like the, the view that if you're scientists, you can't believe in God, I don't buy that because they're given the mic. But there are many scientists, I mean, really proficient in their field that they they're, they're believers in a crater that's there. And we usually when we link scientists, we

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think, Okay, he's an atheist, but no, there are many scientists, they don't obviously get that usually in the universities, you know, because it's something in the textbooks but there are many, many scientists who believe in a creator and it's their work has led them to be believed, but they don't. They're, they're not the ones that are given the the platform nowadays. Now, there's been a big resurgence of this. I mean, when I was in college, and we're going back to ancient history, now we're talking about like, you

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3030 some years ago, when I was in college, basically all academicians, all scientists were atheist.

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And in a short span of about 40 years, and the short span about of Yeah, that's what it is 40 years, you find now and increasing number of scientists believing in a creator, and no no longer able to discount a creator but able to believe in a creator, and to believe in what science suggests, such as the Big Bang, okay, such as a diversity of species,

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able to believe in this in the context of believing in a creator. The problem is, the problem is that for most of them, they have, they have trouble reconciling their belief with the Creator with any established religion, they look at Judaism, they say, No, that doesn't work for us, they look at Christianity, and they say, No, that doesn't work, either. And they look at Islam. And and they say, Well, no, everybody knows that, you know, it's just a bunch of terrorists. So where am I left, I'm left as being a scientist with a belief in God, or is some of them embrace Christianity just out of, you know, that's the thing to do, and in a predominantly Christian country, and they kind of sort of

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forced themselves into the belief, they're not comfortable with it, it's like putting a square peg into a round hole, but they can't find any other. You know, they can't find they can't find that square hole, but their square peg and they can't find a religion to conform, conform with their beliefs. Okay. And the really interesting thing I found about that, and there really isn't, I mean, look at the YouTube videos, look at any of the lectures by these prominent atheists. Whenever they criticize Christianity, they created criticize it on the basis of the tenets of faith. And they always show how they cannot accept these tenets of faith.

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And for good reason, for good reason, the evidence is there. And, again, read my book, you'll understand why. Now, the thing is, they never criticize Judaism. And as a matter of fact, many of them are strong supporters of Israel figure that out. I mean, that, that, that's very inconsistent with their beliefs. But that just is the way it is. I mean, most of them do not they shy away from criticizing Judaism, I think largely because they know that to do so will get them into trouble. And they know which side their bread is buttered on. When they criticize, criticize Christianity, they criticize completely on the basis of the tenets of faith which they cannot, you know, they cannot

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accept. But when it comes to Islam, they don't touch the tenets of faith. Because the tenets of faith in Islam are not the issue for them. They always talk about deeply emotional issues. Like you know, they, you know, Islam is just a bunch of terrorists or they subjugate you know, women. Wait, wait a minute, if Islam subjugates women,

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why is the greatest number of converts to, to Islam? In the first world countries, America, Europe and so on? Well, why why are they predominantly women? These are not these aren't intelligent, intelligent women becoming Muslim. They're not they're not stupid, ignorant. Women, these aren't intelligent women, with well formed,

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you know, opinions and so on who are becoming Muslim as intelligent women. Why? If they're if Islam said, subjugates women, why would they do that? Ask them and you'll find the answer is fine, because Islam does not subjugate women. Yeah. You know, Islam. I mean, many of them will tell you that Islam sets them free. But But the point is that while they are criticizing Christianity on the basis of tenets of faith, their criticism of Islam is always on the basis of the hot ticket issues that sort of evoke emotions. Okay, stop doing that. You're supposed to be an intelligent guy. You're supposed to be a man of academia. Talk to me about Islam from the tenets of faith. What objection Do you have

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to believing in God is one God? What objection do you have? believing in the continuity in the chain of revelation? You know, the prophets that that, that brought those books of Revelation and a day of judgment, Heaven, *, angels? What is your objection upset, except simply that you don't, you don't have the capability of seeing these things. You can't, you know, you can't have them to to measure or quantitate

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you can't scientifically prove them. But tell me what, you know, what objection Do you have to those tenets of faith? Now, if you're not able to answer that, and don't talk about these other things, because you're not the rule maker. You're not the law maker. That's where our Creator, not you Where can they get in touch with you if they want to continue to dialogue, read some of your work. We're out of time. Directors, right. My my main website, which is level two

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dot com and the name is changing to Dr. Dr. Being Dr. and you'll find just a lot of information there and my books are free downloads. Thank you very much Dr. Brown so it was a pleasure and thank you for tuning in to the deen show. Subscribe if you haven't right now like us, follow us on Facebook, Twitter, and tune in every week for a new exciting episode. We'll see you next time peace be with you Sonic, please subscribe to the show. Follow us on our official Facebook and Twitter pages in the links below. Please also help support the show by making a donation in the link below.

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