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So now that I've accepted Islam, I'm really happy that I and I genuinely believe that Allah is the best of planners. You can unpackage as you said of Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him was a light today. He'd probably get cancelled. Prophet Muhammad, Allah subhana wa salam had an Instagram page he would have been canceled. Ha nowadays modern day culture is it's degenerate. Also bIllahi min ash shaytani regime, I seek refuge in Allah subhanaw taala from from Satan the accursed. Tell me that isn't the plight of modern men, especially young men today? What's your feel now with everything because now they can only hold him until the end of this month. I managed to procure
meals at around 80 cents each. So we'll feed over 60,000 children. What was your thoughts now on him being Andrew and Tristan are being released on a date that the matric was, yeah, it wasn't that interesting. I've seen some articles lately saying that, you know a lot of men with conservative values
turning to Islam, and this is concerning. All right, hang on a sec. That's a good thing.
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certainly countries a peace Welcome to the de SHA media host I got a special special guest here in this digital studio.
You've probably seen him on the jets and parties from the past and right now but he's got a new way of life we're gonna be talking about that way of life also, we're going to be talking about agitate, bringing up us up to speed on some of the the BBC interview that just happened. I allowed you into my home I'm gonna I'm doing your favorite. The first interview I'm giving to the public. You don't come here with position of authority. You're not the police. I don't respect the BBC. And some of the other things we got a lot to talk about, with Julius aka the senatorial shooter.
and His final messengers, Muhammad peace be upon him? This is our religion, Islam.
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I can use my name now. Jordan, I've been doxxed so I'm happy with y'all. I used to hide hide behind a subtle shooter of it. Because I naturally am a bit of a private person. I went I went loud to sport tight and you know my Instagram blew up because of being associated with tight so I'm out there now. So yeah, Jewel is good bank jewel. Jewel is good. A few years back, I don't know how long ago there's probably over a year maybe two something like that. I was watching one of these videos I saw you in it. And it was Tristan and Andrew they were it was really Tristan was pushing you to have a drink. And you were you were running to go sleep and avoiding it. And I was it myself say I like
to meet this brother.
I would like to beat this brother and say I'd like to give him down I'd like to talk to him about a slop not as me because it seemed like from that time I was seeing you or you were kind of you know, less partying than others or whatnot. And it was very interesting. I have zero love for the potting zero love alcohol now hamdulillah I've got a nice solid reason to with respected wisdom, tell him to go away.
And he will respect that to I mean, there was good brotherhood, there was good competition and a part of that was drinking. And the issue with Tristan is he just he doesn't feel alcohol. It's almost inhuman. And so one of his potty tricks is to get other people drunk and and to show that it doesn't affect him. I used to hate it like you do it as brothers, you know, competing and so on. But even before I took shahada, I knew that that Hedden ism I knew the alcohol I knew that all these things, they're low frequency, like it's I don't know how to speak about it in a more sort of scientific manner. It's all low frequency stuff. When you go into a nightclub where a bunch of
people are drunk and looking to have you know, superficial sex. It's, it's dark energy stuff is not healthy. It's not a positive vibe, if you will, for one of you no better way to put it. And so now that I've accepted Islam, I'm really happy that I have a reason to say no, that's not the sort of person I am. I'm
Not donut. And also a lot of people like, Oh, you've had to give up this, you've had to give up that. Show me a negative from giving up alcohol. Show me one.
Like, it's all positive and everything, all the restrictions that Islam brings, if you can call them that, I see the intelligence behind it because they all have a positive net impact on who you are as a man, your ability to work hard for your family to stay disciplined to resist temptation, and shaitan and Jin and all these things. Every single change I've made, has been a clear, positive, and I'm very grateful for it. hamdulillah speaking of that, I mean, I remember back in when we say Jaha Leah, you know, the term Jabalia days of ignorance, we call it
I used to actually own a part of a nightclub. So when I quit drinking, that was the hardest thing was to be around other people who were were drinking yeast and well, you want a part of it? Yeah. When you've seen through the mirage that society tries to push on your western society, hey, you know, get drunk, have, have fun, explore yourself, maybe you know that you see a lot of, let's say advice, for example, pushing drug use saying, oh, yeah, it's good to use this. And here's some tips to how to use drugs. It's all deeply unhealthy stuff. And so when you've, when you've lifted yourself up, and again, I don't want to say anything, that's inappropriate. But I really do feel
like since taking shahada, I'm operating at a different frequency. I have a cleaner energy as a man and both in terms of the external world and how I carry myself during the day. But also internally I feel how to put it I just feel like there's there's more pure and more energetically? Sound if that makes sense. No, not in gauging and stuff which deep down I know, is a waste of time. And I see nightclubs and I see all these venues as places where on an energetic level, it drags you down, it drags you under stuff, which we're not meant to be doing as humans. So yeah, I understand that. Wow. I remember when, when I first started to implement a lot of the teachings of Islam, I felt
healthier, you know, the right away established the prayer. And I heard you talking about, you know, the discipline that comes with that, how you are really seeing the power of attending the masjid is right by your house superpower superpower. It's, um, because I'm pretty busy. I'm pretty tied into Donya, if you will, I have a lot of people who rely on me both family employees so on, I do a lot of mentoring within tight organization, the warm, I mentor hundreds of guys, you know, there's, there's a lot of my, my attention is pulled, or my time is pulled in many different directions. And I don't really believe in stress or any of these things. But I do get to the point where it's just, it's
constant churn. And then before you know it, the days over the beauty of Salah, especially, you know, being able to walk across to the masjid, that's the time you know, your heart can be at rest. And I really feel the benefits of that I go, I have a little ritual, I take my How to Pray book I haven't you know, I'm still still learning. I don't claim to be any sort of authority. I take my how to pray. And I'll sit and I'll read through because I want to be really specific with with prayer. And I'm getting there, I want to make sure. Not only am I saying the right words, but I'm understanding the words and understand the intent behind them. And obviously, even just the simple
act of, of prayer, there's a lot of depth to it. You know, it's, I think just learning the words and saying them without really understanding why you're saying what you're saying you're missing a trick. And so I take my book in there a little early, I'll read, I'll pray. And sometimes afterwards, I'll sit in a read some more. There's no phones, there's no calls, there's no hey, I want this meeting, my attention is not pulled in many different directions. That simple act of turning off Tanya and focusing on on, on what's real, and that deeper element to life. It's energetically, I see a very clear boost. It's almost like hitting a refresh button multiple times a
day. I love it. And when I'm not in when I'm traveling, when I'm not in Dubai, I genuinely longed for it. I long for being able to go to the masjid like I feel. And this is new for me. I feel I feel something's missing by not having that refresh button set numerous times a day. This is kind of similar to my story. When I first started practicing Islam, and I started right away. I said, Okay, what does God Almighty want from me the establishment of the prayer five times a day minimum, I did the same thing I had, you know, Cat Stevens, use of Islam, former singer, he put together a really nice instruction how to pray. And he had an audio book was I actually was putting earphones on. I
was opening the book. And I was reading it. I had no clue, you know, and I was saying, but I wanted to do it. Right, exactly right. I wanted to do it right. And I'm the longtime guy.
And I've said this before I started again,
I'm 40 years old now. And learning isn't as easy as it used to be, you know, I now know how to spend, I can take one hour of my time and turn that into X amount of dollars, one hour of my time and turn that into X amount of positive impact with it's the businesses that I run or the people I mentor. Putting that aside and just focusing on learning something can be a little bit difficult. Whereas the time that I put into learning about Islam, if I want more, it's not a short I'm not having to force myself to learn if anything, I'm calm
just prioritizing my last I've got more time to learn. And that's a very rare thing. For example, I have numerous languages that I need to maintain, it's very hard to find the motivation to put aside the world and, you know, conquest and growth and all these things, and just focus on maintaining these languages, I find that a challenging thing to do, was putting aside, you know, all the business and all the mentoring and focusing on Islam, I love it, I do it every day, every day is part of my sleep hygiene. I'll read something about our faith. And the more I read, the more I want to read, that's a very unique sensation, as, as a man, everything else that I have to learn can be a
chore, or it's only about Islam is it's, the more energy I put in, the more energy I get out of it. That's really cool. This is similar to my journey. So it was like, I never actually read so much in my life until I really, you know, enjoyed learning as much as when I started to really, because everything just made sense. Exactly. clicks, doesn't clicks, I pretty much have stopped reading, to be honest, until I until I took shahada and now now I'm reading again, it's easy nowadays with devices and with phone calls and meetings, this constant churn, I think your brain gets less stimulus when you when you just take an old school book and you know, slow down and read and focus
on one thing. Nowadays, everyone's you know, they're watching TV and I got the devices out and having conversations with people putting all that aside and just focusing on something very slow and manual like reading. I think less and less people are doing that nowadays, whereas Islam gives you that, that motivation to just slow yourself down and focus on what's real. I think it's a very sacred thing. Let's back it up for a minute. So some people are like, Okay, we've heard he was the your guest here, Jewel,
senatorial shooter, that was the name that you go by. It was it was he the manager of agitate? Was he's one of the best friends you know, Can you fill us in a little bit on? Excellent. So anyone who thinks I'm the manager of Andrew Tate, you try managing Andrew
agitates, gonna do an Intertape doesn't say what Tristan, like, the idea that these two gentlemen will ever have a manager, that's just someone's not knowing who they are, they are ferociously focused on their mission. And they'll take counsel, and you know, obviously, we have a lot of chats on a daily basis, you know, we'll bounce things back and forth, I'll put forward my ideas. Some of them are adopted, some, some of them are not, the perspective I come at is that of risk. You know, I have a master's degree in risk management, I have a former career in in pretty senior security roles for large organizations and supporting ultra high net worth individuals. But there's no way that I
could ever manage those guys, they are self managed, so to speak. So close friends have been for about five years. And the reason why I felt the responsibility to go loud, even though doing so doesn't really benefit me. I mean, off the back of my social media following I sell and promote various type products, which I really believe in both a warm, you know, have a really strong brotherhood there. And and the real world because I've seen the positive impacts these things have, I wouldn't put my name behind something if I didn't, you know, manually personally see the benefits, and I do.
So you could argue that there's some benefit from from promoting these things. It's negligible in terms of the financial return. Me being out in the public sphere, doesn't give me benefits of people coming up asking for photos. I'm not the photo guy. I spent years of my life especially my professional career, being the guy who's not photographed and you know, it doesn't I'm not Yeah, I don't want the clout or fame. I think having social media followings a bit like having money in in Monopoly, like, who cares, you know, it's not real. Whereas I had the duty to go out and support these brothers, because outside of their direct family, I've spent the most time with them over the
last five years, you know, they've been in my house, I've been in their house, the Jets, the yachts, these I've been in the houses where apparently these allegations have taken place. And I've seen that it's all nonsense. So I had to go out and I had to speak. And I'm doing that to the best of my ability. And I'll continue to do it, because I know the truth of seeing the truth. And, as I've said numerous times, I'm definitely not objective. I'm highly subjective. I love these guys as brothers as family. But I'm still credible. You know, as I've said, Before, I held top level secret clearances, my previous lines of work, I've held very senior corporate positions, anyone who knows
me who has interacted with me professionally knows that I'm a good judge of character, you know, I have ethics and and I'm a credible witness, if you will, as to what hasn't, hasn't happened. And so it's my duty to come out and speak openly for these brothers. Because as I have to believe, you know, history will show what's being accused is laughable. It's illogical. It doesn't make sense. So we can go into details if you want. I don't know how. Yeah, let's, let's go ahead. And let's touch upon that first, some of the viewing audience who really all they've seen is some of the tabloids or some of the mainstream media. I've had many different guests on and we've kind of went over a lot of
these things. I've covered a lot of it. But for those who don't know, Phyllis, in you know, I'll start off you have some allegations. You have some secret witnesses.
We don't know who they are. You have others who are coming forward, if I remember correctly, are saying that we're not
victims, but they're put on a victim list. Then you have I don't know if he's work as a prostitute or stripper coming forward from alota Malaya was to country or somewhere from Moldova, Moldova, but was living in the UK when she met Titan as I understand. Yeah. And then you have things coming up from like 10 years ago from a business. And now there's all of a sudden coming up and please fill in the blanks. Yep, happy to do so. So first of all, I don't represent Tate in a formal manner in any way. I'm his friend, I'm not his manager, I also don't have the authority to speak on legal matters and and to be very careful with what I say, but you'd put your neck on the line here. Yeah, 100%, I
owe any any court that wants me to go and, and, and swear in front of, you know, our holy book or whatever the requirements are, I will go on record and I will tell the truth, like I'm ready, summon me offline, wherever I go. I'm quite quite prepared to do it. So. So speaking the truth, as as I've seen, without, in any way, representing Tate officially or in any way, you know, pretending to be a legal professional, which I'm not the allegations, as was discussed in Tate's emergency meeting today, or that, in 2021, the tape brothers formed an organized crime group with the intent to draw women into Romania under false pretenses and then steal their Tiktok money. That's what it is. So
the so the claim is that men who only fly private
rent super yachts owned big daddies are financially made, for some reason, went to great lengths to try and steal somebody's Tiktok money in significant amounts of money. Yeah. And these tablets trying to claim that? Oh, yes. You know, look at the lifestyle they made. It's from exploiting women. I'm sorry, I don't really know the industry, but I'm pretty sure tick tock Money doesn't buy big daddies, let's be real here. It is absolute nonsense. And there are numerous platforms that tight has such as the real world, they have, I think it's 150,000 members or more paying $50 a month with a very high recurring rate. That's where money comes from, from products like that, which are
highly effective in that they're teaching a lot of people, you know, skills you can monetize. And they continue to be successful over time, if trying to say that they're somehow doing something nefarious, join that platform and have a look at our activities, you know, there's that there's no, there's no mystery as to where their money comes from. So the idea that there's somehow in any, there's it I mean, as I understand it, again, I've never worked in law enforcement. But I did work with people who were you know, even in the security industry, a lot of people are ex law enforcement, as I understand it with crimes that needs to be some kind of credible intent as to why
someone do it.
What's the intent for, for financially independent, very high status individuals, to go to great lengths to steal someone's Tiktok money, it's quite simply not real. Whereas on the flip side, as we know, as you get more famous, as a man, as you get more and more publicly known to be wealthy, there are certain individuals out there don't need a gender at man or woman who'd want to get a piece of that fame, get a piece of that wealth. And the individual that you refer to the one from Moldova.
The way they met was when she was working as a stripper. She said to Andrew, I want to get famous on Tiktok because I want
a significant set amount of money with which to buy a house. Now, as I understand it, Andrew said, Well, yeah, I know a thing or two about internet marketing, I can help you out. The idea that he's somehow deceiving women. She was the one who said to him, she wanted to get famous, again, why does someone pushing a Bugatti have to try and exploit somebody for Tiktok money, the whole thing is completely illogical. And the way the media has had an absolute Field Day on pushing these clearly illogical narratives. I have, I mean, I didn't really trust mainstream media previously, to be honest. But I've seen firsthand that the lies and the it's not incompetence. I mean, if you're a
journalist, you have basic investigative skills. This is an agenda. It's a very clear agenda being pushed consciously by people who and you mentioned that BBC interview people who don't want to know the truth, that some of the some of the allegations that that lady from the BBC was pushing can be debunked easily with the basic research skills. She is a so called journalist, she can't even find it out. And I'll give you one example. See,
one example was she said to Tate, during that interview, us you are talking about putting a machete in a woman's face and being violent. So hang on a sec, that that's an out of context soundbite which has been pushed around the world. The full form video which if you're a journalist, you could probably dig up it's not you know, it's out there. It's not hidden, is tight, saying I have a lot of machetes in my house. If a woman for example, found out I was cheating and she came at me with a machete what would I do? I bang the machete out a grabber restrain or so on? He was talking to self defense context. Yet this so called Korea journalist can't determine that and she comes at him with
allegations he's talking about being attacked.
on when the machete, it's there, it's on record. So again, this is not incompetence on behalf of BBC, and other mainstream media outlets. This is a clear agenda where they don't even care about the truth. They're just trying to push their narrative. It is so apparent and so disgustingly obvious that I have to believe that anyone with basic common sense can see that the the agenda of players is dirty and not based on truth and that mainstream media simply cannot be trusted nowadays, they've proven that how do you think they handled the Andrew Tate video of you versus the was a Philip Schofield morning Telly presents a Philip schofields Brother Timothy Schofield has been sentenced to
12 years in prison for sexual abuse of a child and his brother isn't that amazing? I'm gonna see the one who was convicted is a great example. It was very interesting to see BBC basically showing empathy in the way they were reporting the Philip Schofield proven case of pedophilia, as I understand it proven on record. Whereas tape has allegations which if you look at them as as a journalist with basic investigative skills, you'd see just don't make sense logically. Yet, they're coming after him with all these attempted gotcha questions and these false claims and these easily debunked with some basic research and logical
parallels that are trying to draw to think, oh, look, we've got him we've he said something bad 10 years ago, therefore, that proves that he would do some sort of bizarre, exploitative crime and in you know, in recent times, it's, it's it's such nonsense, and I have to believe that the majority of the world are waking up and realizing that one day media is not seeking and reporting the truth, they are simply pushing an agenda, they are a psyop tool, that is not working in your favor, as you know, as a citizen.
Here, here's the ironic thing that, okay, if you are someone who's let's say, you've done some things in the past, right? You know, if you're saying this is my position, what I'm about now, you know, just like Islamically, like, if so we don't, we don't try to, you know, hunt for people's mistakes or whatever, if somebody's done something in the past, whatever the case. And a lot of these a lot of some of the filming, and all this is if I understand this is from like 10 to 11 years ago, this is a different lifestyle, different whatever.
What, what, and then now, Andrew Tate has a challenge, he's trying to go ahead and promote and have the mainstream media, I think he put something out there a challenge for to 25 million or something for charity, I dedicate $25 million a year to feeding children, both male and female in war torn countries. I would like to think that even the legacy media can agree that feeding children in Sudan, or Turkish children after an earthquake, or Syrian children and refugee camps is a pretty positive thing to do for the world. And my last BBC interview, she tried to spin it and say that what I'm doing is somehow negative, because I'm only doing it for myself. But this is the level of
delusion these people operate under, because some people would look at that and say, Okay, so before you got money, from attracting people to your website, by making controversial comments, but that might have got you into trouble. And so now you're looking for a new market, you're looking for a new market of followers who are attracted by a different sort of Persona. I've always done the charity work. So that was obviously incorrect. But I have proof that I've always on the show your work. So you're wrong. I managed to procure meals at around 80 cents each. So we'll feed over 60,000 children. I also promised to provide full accounting and receipts to prove that that money goes
directly to charity, to feeding children in war torn countries example. So this is the thing, the ironic thing is now and just showing them being so disingenuous, like, okay, there's a man trying to do some good now, he's trying to better his life, right? Why don't you try to highlight some of these things? Why are you trying to just get a highlight moment, or I got your moment and run with that? Definitely. And I think that's a very good example of the fact that this is not about truth, this is about them pushing an agenda. Not only do they not report on all the charity that is doing, and that he has been doing for a while he's just gone public with it now, everyone trying to analyze
Tate and so they can understand him to put out something called the 41 tenants of tight and that's the beliefs that he lives by, and he believes that men should live by. And basically it comes down to traditional values, being stoic, being mentally resilient, and working as hard as you can to be the best version of man that You can be to provide for your brothers, your family, society and so on. Not one single journalist has even looked at these. They're on the website. Everyone's trying to hypothesize and analyze and rotate and figure out what he is about what he's not. He's written at length, his 41 beliefs that he lives by, not a single journalist has even thought to refer to that
in their deep, deep diving, analysis and investigation about who he really is. It's quite laughable to be honest. And this is why you'll see everyone actually knows Andrew has come out and said, Hang on. No, this is nonsense. And I'm the single most informed person on the planet as to who these brothers really are, because I've been around them more than anyone else. Their family
He's a good men, they're men who have fiercely driven fiercely principled, and who strongly believe they have the support of
I'd say with with Tristan with God, but with Andrew, Allah subhanaw taala, to represent traditional values to represent
old school, you know, looking after men being provided as protectors, you know, that the family unit sacred, that traditional gender roles are an important thing, all these different things, and to motivate young men to resist this sheep programming, this de masculinization that we see on whether it's Netflix or music or Hollywood, you name it from all angles, it's coming. The Tate's genuinely strongly believe they are leading the fight against all of that liberal nonsense. And they're prepared to essentially suffer a lot for it, they are prepared to go to jail if needed,
and to take whatever heat they're taking, and all this negative nonsense being thrown at them to push that that positive, masculine message of pursuing excellence. I think it's quite a noble thing. You have even a lot of people who were fans of Andrew Tate, they were getting fed up. They're like, just charge them already. Yeah, it was like when he was in the dungeon in the Romanian dungeon there. And I was really sad to see, you know, where were all the human rights activist people stepping up while you got his men in a dungeon. Now, not charged anything was the innocent? We got that here. But I mean, how was that, like, at that time? The law he's out now. But how many months
was the end when he was in for three months? And he's still restricted to his house? So he's not he's not free, so to speak, what happened? Now they changed some of the charges, something got shifted around, or if as I understand it, it's it's, I mean, I've looked at that, and I can't really comprehend the difference. They're just trying to say instead of it being, you know, set amount of one or two or three victims are saying, Oh, it's bigger than that, as I understand it, but again, where's the evidence? Where's the evidence? And why would again, logically, why would people who are financially made risk all of that, and even devote the time they're very time poor, they're busy
guys to try and steal or deceive someone out of that tick tock money. They are the claims. What was interesting was that and I covered this with how's our friend moneybags is doing all right. Yeah, Dylan, how's he doing? He's good. He's good. I covered this with him. There was what was it that was done to Moldova Lady and the other one, and they were sitting back talking about how they're gonna get an Oscar for with the messages through official sources through the, you know, relevant Romanian agencies. Yeah, there were leaks, and a little leaks, but it's strange stuff. Anyway, there were leaks of the WhatsApp chats between the two main complainants. And in that, they were saying, Hey,
you did really well, you know, you deserve an Oscar for this, Hey, we're gonna go straight to Netflix, you know, they are openly and it's on record, saying, first of all, prior that's conspire to frame these guys essentially. And afterwards, here's the ways we can benefit. So if we look at the two parties involved, the Tate's and the people making the complaints, Tate's have no intent or reason to do these actions, whereas the people making the complaints they have clear and on record intent, which is to get fame to get money to essentially benefit from these false claims. And that's on record. And with the so called journalists, these investigative experts, they can't look at that.
And they can't see which, which side of the argument makes more sense on a purely logical level, who's standing to benefit and who and who's not. It's very clear, you are actually looking into Islam, if I understood for like, was it around 15 years? Yeah, days, I first went to the Middle East 2004 2004. And then your journey began slowly, you know, being around Muslim, a lot of people doing Bower, as I know, now understand it. But over over that time, I often say because if you care, you share this is just you know, because there's a lot of misconceptions, you know, what I mean? People have all these different negative thoughts. So almost some, you know, he, in his behavior and his
attitude, he starts meeting someone, people talk about football, baseball, and everything, why not talk about the purpose of life and let the people decide if they want, if not, just like you want to talk to you. And here we are. Exactly. People are important in football. Yeah. Now I lived in Iran, Iraq, Saudi, a lot of time in in other other Middle Eastern countries, I lived in Iraq as well. And through this time, I noticed that the men that I respect the most were very devout practicing was before you went you before you the first time you set foot on a majority of Muslim country where you stuck with somebody stereotypes and chop your head off, they're going to this that and yeah, they're
also especially when I was in the military. And you know, the later the specialist area that I went into, the belief was not so much that Muslims were the enemy, but that they were a real and present threat. And so my initial interpretation of Islam was that it was a dangerous thing. That I mean, that's, that's the truth. But through spending a lot of time in the middle east through learning languages, I saw that, wait a second. The country that I'm coming from Australia is getting increasingly liberal. There's an attack on family values as an attack on masculinity. Whereas the so called threat driven countries, you know, Muslim countries where there's this dangerous thing
In called Islam, they are speaking up for traditional values. They're pro the family unit, they're rejecting modernity and liberalism. Which side is that? The just side here, if we're talking about the war of ideas, you know, fifth generation warfare, if you will, which side makes sense which side has a more beneficial outcome for both individuals and at the society level. And so I realized that that I was, if you will, ideologically on the wrong side. And I mean, part of the reason why I left the military and the work that I was doing after that was, I realized that Western governments, they're not necessarily representing the best for, again, both the individual and for for society,
whereas when you have, especially in places like the UAE, where you have a system of law and order, and a governing system that is based in religion in faith, and in a faith that has very clear guidance as to how families should should run, how men should act, how, how justice should be administered, that's a sustainable model with which both for individuals to flourish and society to remain cohesive. And as it should be, as it naturally should be for generations to come. So I really do believe that the Middle East is the future in terms of places like the UAE, I really do believe that that's the society you will see continued to be a safe, prosperous place for for generations to
come and shallow. And I do believe as it states have said, the West is a failing society, you can see in real time becoming more polarized, that the confusion in young men and women as to today identify as a man or a woman or a coffee cup. Yeah, it's becoming an absolute mess. So I genuinely believe at this point now that Islam is the only answer for both individual, you know, welfare, but also over the long term, but also societal, it's, I see no other solution to combat liberalism and modernity, which, let's be honest, is shaitan. I view that very clearly as to the dates. Well, so how long did it take you to realize okay, Islam, Muslims weren't a threat, I think pretty much
straight away but that like, again, the hospitality that I received in the Muslim world and and the way it's such it's such like, excuse my like, Bs, I mean, it's like, you know, he's spent a little time with Muslims, you need to see that hospitality, the love, especially practicing Muslims, who feel an accountability for every one of their actions to a higher force and to you know, aka the fact that they will be judged. There are people you can rely on their people you can trust and the founder of liberalism, I don't want to misquote it, but he said you can't trust an atheist because they have no sense of accountability to a higher force. I'm sure I'm butchering that quote, but the
the essence is there. It's if somebody is their own God and their own judge, then they can do whatever they want. Whereas with a practicing Muslim, they understand on a deep level, I am held accountable to something higher than me. I think that's absolutely essential, both for, you know, the ordinary citizen, but also for leaders of countries. If you have someone leading a country, and they believe they are their own source of accountability, and they are their own, you know, God, for example, that's a dangerous thing. They can do whatever they want. I think it's, they can pursue any hedonistic urges, they have they can, they can be unscrupulous in their business dealings, they can
they can become, essentially evil beings. And I think in the West, a lot of Western government figures are driven by shaytaan I really do believe it should be done meaning the devil the satanic forces, it's clear as day Yeah. You used to think that religion at that time you were practicing you were from what background? You were a Christian. So 13 years of 1213 years of Catholic school and Catholic school. I was pretty poor family growing up, but I was I was pretty sharp as a kid. So I had scholarships for pretty much my whole schooling, it was all Catholic schooling, but the way Catholicism was representative was, it was a chore. It wasn't something anyone was passionate about.
It's just yeah, this is what you do. And my perception what a religion was was once a week you go to church, you sit there you say some things and that's it. That was your perception once a week that was what I thought religion was and then as I looked into Islam more and more I'm like, hang on a sec, this is this is a different league in terms of depth and completely in terms of Yeah, exactly structure as to how you live your life. So I invite anyone who is a little bit disenfranchised with with religion or they think I don't need religion and you know, religions not not for me, if you're in the West, and you don't fully understand Islam, you don't comprehend what a religion is. Because
it's a whole level of depth that people just don't realize or appreciate it even exists.
It takes me back just looking at my journey and just looking at all the different religions out there and you can see like, okay, in one way or another, they're calling you to creation worship, but really what fascinated me because it's not people think religion, something you're born into or your family, your ancestors, you just got to stick with that it's your DNA. You know what I mean? You can't jump from anything else but when I used to when I really dug into Islam just like you seeing as a complete way of life, the proofs and evidences if you want the Quran has it the scientific miracles and prophecies, everything is not something you blindly jump into. And that's
why you know, you have that enthusiasm, that earnest desire to
is to want to learn more because it makes sense. Over here you're learning that God is an animal, the human being are these things that logical doesn't make sense. Naturally, you're going to, you're going to distance, you can't find that, that that love and desire that passion like, like you have. So what was it? When you started to see the Muslim when you start to look into Islam when you start to what what was it? Would you say that really, you know, finally did it for you after 15 years that you finally were like, Okay, this is indeed not a manmade religion. But this is indeed from the Creator of the heavens and earth to the truth. What was the final thing? I think, to be honest, it
was concerned for where the world was going. And this steadfast, I wouldn't even call it belief assessment, that the only solution to liberalism, to modernity to the degeneracy we see being pushed in the west by modern culture.
Islam is literally the only solution. Now yes, there are certain religions out there such as Orthodox, which are very strong, and they are holding their own, they're resilient, but they're not really fighting back to me. As I've seen over the years, the only movement that's really pushing back against all this degeneracy being pushed through through modern Western culture is Islam. I don't see any any, any other entity, any other body standing up for this constant bombardment of being masculine is a bad thing. Being feminine is a bad thing. You want to want to identify as that post, that's what you should do all this illogical. Like we laugh about, it was damaging, right?
It's very, it's pushed on the children.
Show me a more effective solution than Islam. And from that logical assessment that Alright, this is the answer for both how to how to manage yourself as an individual, and also how to push back against the nonsense, you know, how to how to save society from well, then I started practicing, and I was like, Whoa, there's a whole deeper level of benefits to this one, the discipline, the, the power in resisting temptation, and when you're a man of means hamdulillah I've done well, there's a lot of temptation out there, you know what I mean? Especially when it comes to casual sex or had an alcohol, these things, it's all so accessible, you know, if you've got a certain amount of wealth,
Islam is really helpful in rejecting all of that just ignoring all of that, and also the deeper level and that which I'm enjoying more and more is, because I'm not I'm not big on emotions, you know, like it's, I mean, obviously, you're not very good with emotions, but there is an emotional benefit from practicing Islam in a very earnest and literal fashion that you cannot deny. If you pray regularly. If you take Ramadan seriously, if you if you say no, I'm not the sort of person who engages in hedonism and all that you know, low energy frequency nonsense, there is health benefits, there's mental health benefits, but there's that idea of your heart being still I genuinely feel it
and this is not an emotion that comes and goes this every time every single time I pray at the end of the prayer I sit there and I have nothing but gratitude for having found Islam nothing. I don't pray for anything for myself. You know, I pray that my family I looked after you know, my brothers continue to you know, steadfast in their in their pursuit of you know, sera, sera Tala, Mr. Kim's estranged father, but for me it's nothing but gratitude every time I pray I I feel an overwhelming gratitude for having found Islam and and the benefits the that, that stillness that I can feel that I almost feel like I'm home. This is actually something I reflect on the other day. I've been out of
Australia for 15 years, I've been back three times. Yeah, there's a there's a I had this longing for heading back to Australia even though I don't believe in you know, the ideologies that are common in that country. The nature there, everything always felt very grounded. And I think you'll always feel most at home where you grew up. I longed for that feeling of being home when I go to the masjid now I have that feeling. I have the feeling of being at home which I think is a beautiful thing. And and I mean I haven't prayed in any other mosque Masjid around the world other than you know the one across from my house but I'm pretty sure anytime I go into a masjid and pray, I will have that very
clear sensation of being at home. And that was something as as a you know, 15 year expert I was missing I was longing for that. So the deeper level the emotional,
sort of life fulfillment and life satisfaction that you get from practicing Islam honestly, man what a boost to life what what an advantage over those who don't have it in terms of being a fulfilled effective human. It's real. Do you get frustrated sometimes when people make ignorant remarks and you know, this is like, you know, if they just spent a little time you know, connecting with a Muslim hitting the books learning you know, you heard certain terms. When you mentioned the masjid, I think, wow, if people would make that human connection, you go into a mosque or Masjid place of worship, no statues, no idols, no icons, nothing is just you're going there to thank the Creator to
heavens and earth to worship one and only one God, praying like you when they say it's Have you ever heard this? Muslims are the AntiChrist, but it's a pillar in Islam to believe in Christ Jesus. He's a mighty messenger. We pray like him is described in the Bible that he fell on his face and pray to God when you go in this masjid, you're falling on your face.
Powerful moments sujood such that yes, this
sensation of being in touch with something bigger than you of putting your ego aside putting it aside and really connecting with the source from which we came is so powerful. I pity anyone who doesn't have that in their lives. I really do. Well so then you know the greeting when we greet each other Peace be with you. Jesus would say Shalom or like salaam aleikum? You know, the first thing that we said the prayer the I mean, everything there is just the same the same system the same way of life that Jesus was living, how is now because you know, a lot of people will go ahead and have confusion around around Jesus about what is your connection now with Jesus now as a Muslim as
opposed to before like many people don't know that you? You is a whole chapter in the Quran named after his blessing Mother, you can't if you deny him, you say one disrespectful thing. You can find yourself in hellfire. You know, I'd say if anything, I feel more that I have more of an understanding more of respect for ESA, for Jesus than I did as a as a Catholic.
Because it's, I'm more motivated to read deeper. And instead of religion being a chore, it's almost a passion, if that makes sense. Yeah. So it's, I definitely feel what I am a lot more well read on on Jesus, as a Muslim. You said? You said Isa, yeah. Do you have any Irish background at all? Or do you do you know, in in the Irish, they say Isa, also? Oh, really? Yeah. That's interesting. Oh, this is real name because the English language didn't exist. So Jesus, you couldn't even said Jesus? There it is. He said, Well, to answer your question, how do I respond to the hate that I see against Islam?
I view a lot of as ignorance, I have a policy where any anyone I see, I went before you want, because I want to make this clear. Like, I get excited to work together with Christians, and you know others, especially in these times, where you have the sexualization of children, the whole things that we're talking about. But then something I always say, you know, that we have so much in common, there's so much in common, but sometimes because of these misses information to programming, and that you get some of these negative things. So that's just an introduction to
my red line, if it's crossed, if someone insults the Prophet alayhi salatu salam or insults,
other key figures,
I won't interact with them, I won't talk to them. Because I would never insult someone or someone else's religion. And to me, that's a character flaw. I don't even think about Islam, if you're gonna insult somebody's faith, shame on you for being a person without ethics and without carried without respect. So that's my view. And so there are a lot of, I think it's cool now to sort of speak out against Islam, or to question
various parts of the faith. If you want to question in a positive way, go for it. Let's have that dialogue. But if you're just there to throw out criticisms, in a disrespectful manner to get attention on social media, then you're a scumbag, and I have no time for you. So anyone who has genuine questions, I think is a great thing.
How do I respond to those insulting the religion, I will never be in the room with them, I never talk to them. To me, they're not people who are worthy of interacting with in any way. You've said, On multiple occasions, Islam being a system to to make you the best version of yourself.
100%. And you're actually you're I mean, you figured this out, you didn't take shahada till what was this year 2023, right? Recently how
this is powerful, I mean, coming from someone like yourself, now you've, you've realized that this is a system that will bring you to the to the best version of yourself. 100% I think if you practice Islam, earnestly, you can't help but become more disciplined, you can't help but become more calm and more focused. Again, Salah is put, you know, putting all the dunya all the world aside and focusing on your connection with with everything that's real, everything that's everlasting.
A lot of people in the West, they'll say they'll talk about the benefits of meditation or talk about the benefits of fasting, or they'll talk about the benefits of trying to put your ego aside. And this is all encapsulated in a book that's hundreds and hundreds of years old. All these New Age fads that think they've discovered something. It's all there and has been there for a long time. So I genuinely believe that again, I don't want to say anything
disrespectful, but I think Islam has a competitive advantage in that. If you're taking your faith seriously, you are going to be more focused, more disciplined, more physically healthy, more mentally healthy than people who aren't practicing in an earnest manner. And I think that practicing any, any religion, I think, is a noble thing. However, the the one with the most dogma, the one with the most guidance, the moment therefore the most benefits, we have to agree is Islam. There's so much structure and so much
clearer guidance on essentially I see the intelligence behind all the different elements of Islam. It is it is optimized in a manner to make humans the most disciplined the most you know, prone to reject hedonism the most ethical in our dealings with others.
That the healthiest in terms of mentally the way they perceive their human experience and live out their lives. The intelligence behind
This structured living that Islam gives you,
is crystal clear to me. And it's like, I mean, I see it myself. I see in other people, it results in you being a more effective human like if, of course, we don't sign up to a religion for selfish reasons. But if you were purely trying to become a better person, there's only benefit, there's only only positive benefit from from taking shahada and and in an earnest manner practicing Islam. We're in a day and age where I mean you have a lot of it's a big industry these, we have a lot of self help books and gurus and whatnot. And I mean, why not take this advice, somebody that's been around since day one. I mean, we believe that Islam has been there since day one, because Islam simply
means to submit your will to the credit heavens and earth and it's been there throughout time. So now, someone like you very successful businessman, entrepreneur, and you're telling me you want to get the edge get with Islam, I really believe that all these these life hacks in the all these lifelike shoes and all these new New Age sort of things, you know, that the people are trying to push, it's all watered down versions of something which has been written hundreds of years ago, watered down versions from things that have already been written. And it's so clear, it's so clear and a lot of people say they found Islam in the darkest days, I found Islam and my best days then
100 A lie but I live something I've I've coined it a custom made reality. My my family, you know, healthy, I'm blessed with healthy children and good relationships. I have fantastic meaningful work. You know, I run numerous, you know, consultancy, and other companies where I work with great people solving, you know, real problems, I have fantastic relationships with brothers materially have more than I would ever need. I give us a cat in a way that I'm quite proud of, even though don't publicize it, I really do believe my life is ideal. Islam has added a whole nother level of fulfillment on top of that. So yeah, I couldn't be more grateful man. And I've heard people talk
about the sort of state that I am as, like the Dawa, hi, you know, when you're really enthusiastic about it, I don't think it's a feeding thing. The more I learn about Islam, the more of a dour, Hi, I have, the more enthusiastic I become in those moments where you're reading something and you go, that click moment, that all makes sense. So for example, one quick one. For the longest time throughout my life, I realized the underlying intent with which you approach an activity will directly impact the outcome. For example, if you're trying to get money, and your your underlying intent is you're desperate, and you're coming from a place of scarcity, you do anything you can, you
might get that money, but it's going to be a very rocky road. Whereas if your underlying intent for getting money is one of abundance, and one of gratitude, and one of I'm going to, I'm going to benefit the people I work with, so it's a win win, I'm not going to I'm not going to take from people, you will get that money in a much more steady and more abundant manner. That underlying intent is so important. Then in Islam, I read about something called near. And the fact that we have a concept where it's the intent with which you approach them even you know, when you go and pray you set your knee or you set the intent. And I'm like, Oh, hang on. This is something that's written
hundreds of years ago that took me 35 odd years to figure out if only I'd read it earlier. And I have dozens and dozens of examples like that were beliefs that I'd figured out through human experience I find represented in texts written hundreds of years ago, that the amount of times I've had those moments, I'm like, Ah, that's what I thought. And here it is, in this book is remarkable. It's absolutely remarkable. It's it's incredibly energizing. And I don't think my dalawa high will ever fade. I think the more I learned, the more enthusiastic I'll get. That's what people they really get amazed at the fitrah the human inclination, Islam comes in fits like a glove. And if it
hasn't been tainted so much. And you see now I've heard you talk about this because a lot of people go away from manmade religions, you see people, a lot of different strange incantations super teach stations worshipping the creation and things that just don't make sense. So people go away from religion and not a people turn towards atheism. And you talk about this them shooting themselves in the foot 100%. And it's I see,
and how do we get them? Now? Again, I think it's tricky because a lot of people want to take these, whether it's atheistic beliefs, or liberal beliefs, even though those belief systems are clearly not helping them in life, they have an ego attachment, you know, I'm an atheist, therefore, you know, I'm going to justify it in my mind. I think the ultimate question to anyone who says they're an atheist, how's that working out for you? How does your view your your atheistic belief system, benefit your life, because I can talk for hours and I happily will and have done and we're doing right now I can talk for hours about the benefits that Islam has brought me both in terms of making
me more fulfilled as a person, making them more disciplined and effective and able to better serve, you know, my family, my colleagues, my society. What does atheism do to make you a better person? How does it give you for increased discipline? How does it give you increased energy to really go and be the best human that you can be? Because one day you will be judged? It doesn't it doesn't bring any of those benefits. So again, to any atheist out there, my simple question for you is, how is that working out for you? How is that benefiting your life? Because personally, I can talk for hours about how Islam has an is benefiting my life. Yeah, it's logical. I mean, if you go ahead live
Islam like you said, you get all these benefits. Over here on the
The other side you probably somebody who's not too happy you got to avoid in your heart. And at the end if Islam we know it's true, then all these what's going to happen if the death comes, it's too late to go back Hellfire opens up paradise opens up you missed out on getting the best of this life and the best in the hereafter. 100% there is and I think the atheist will always argue or but you know, Hellfire can't be proven these sorts of things. What can be proven, is how your belief systems are represented in you as a person, show me an atheist who's genuinely happy I. I don't Okay, maybe summer, but exception to the rule don't negate the rule. Most most of the atheists that I've seen,
don't seem like very fulfilled people to me. They don't have that sense of community that we get with the Ummah, they don't have healthy dogma, humans need dogma, we need guidance for life from somewhere. Now you're either going to get that from religion, or you get it from modern day culture stuck from Allah, you know, you'll get that from a government, if it's like a communist system, and you know, you must, your God should be the leader of the country and so on. But either way, humans crave dogma from something and again, if you are your own god, if you are not accountable to anything, why not engage in hedonism? Why not take drugs we're not engaging in in superficial sex,
if there's no is no judgment or no accountability. Whereas with something like Islam, or you know, the religions or the books, so to speak, practicing them gives you clear guidance with which to live a good, positive life as a human. Why would you not choose that? You really think, isn't it you have the ego as as an atheist to think that you can choose a better way to live than something chosen by 2 billion people, which has very clear benefits in every area of your life? Alright, fine. But again, my question to you, my atheist friends out there, how is that working out for you? How's that working out? The question? You said something else says, if you're gonna unpackage did you sort of
Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him was a light today, he'd probably get cancelled. Prophet Muhammad, Allah salat wa salam had an Instagram page, he would have been canceled. Ha, nowadays modern day culture is it's degenerate. It's anti family, anti men being traditional looking after the those they care about, you know, it's anti women looking after themselves. Like it's modern day culture is such a terrible place to find that dogma that guidance for life. And once you break people out of the matrix, what do you give them? I see no other answer, then Islam. If Prophet my war wouldn't, wouldn't that be an interesting phenomena to observe? So the way that modern
culture and we see it the way shaytan has absolutely taken over all the information channels, again, whether it's censorship by Western governments, so we see Hollywood movies, pushing certain agendas, Netflix, social media. The other day on Spotify, I put a gym playlist on when I was going to, you know, to work out this was before I took shahada. And after five songs, I had to turn it off. Because in this gym playlist, every single song was about women, was about being a simp. Oh, baby, give me one more chance, I couldn't even work out without this, this programming being pushed on me. So the idea that,
that you can counter all of that without some kind of shield or some kind of structure, which is what Islam gives us. I think it's I think it's a fallacy. I think the the assault of the these satanic agendas being pushed us pushed on us from every direction, I put it to you that Islam is probably the only or it's definitely the most effective way to counter all that, if not the only way to do it in the modern age. And that's again, a big part of the reason why I took shahada was, as an individual, I know that I'm limited, I know that, you know, there are such things as temptation, I know that there is programming from every angle that you know, in the western world as to to be the
sort of man I don't want to be. Whereas if you choose Islam, and you follow it in earnest manner, that is a genuine shield that is a superpower against all these workers. And this liberalism is degeneracy. This temptation, to me it's, I think, I see it as a very obvious very easy choice. I really do. You are the speaking of Shahada. And for people that don't know, shahada is what someone says, to enter into Islam to claim that there's nothing worthy of worship except the one Creator God Almighty, Allah and Muhammad is the Messenger, this will automatically include all the preceding messenger, Jesus being one of a Moses, Abraham and all the ones that came, it just makes beautiful
sense that chronological order was the same way of life, not a new religion, here, there and everywhere. It's the same way of life. So now, when you took your shahada, you were actually that excited that you would go ahead and you were you were sharing, giving Dawa to Andrew, was it? Yeah, early year, in early time or last year? I mean, if he is, you know, I've been talking about Islam. And for years, he's been asked, like,
take both of them and you're interested in very deep thinkers, but behind the social media,
you know, perception of guys living large with cars and all these things. They're very deep thinkers.
At the end of the day when work was done, or sitting on the yachts or the Jets, we would have those big question discussions, you know, what are we here for, you know, which which religion is going to last, you know, all these sorts of things purpose of life question. Yeah, exactly, exactly. And, and, for me, having lived in the Middle East for such a long time, I was always representing Team Islam, even though I wasn't Muslim at that point. So Tate actually took his shahada before me. I was I was surprised. So I had to take took his shahada before he I surprised he didn't tell me he was gonna do it because I would have been like brothers still together. As I I told him and I told
everyone I was planning to I was just researching more and more first, and I talked to him. I messaged him and say, Hey, man, congrats on taking Shahada. What was the final push for you to do that was the final push. And he said two things. He said, One, there was zero downsides, only positives. And two, it's, it's the only solution. It is the only answer to stand up to the way humanity is going. And the fact that shaytan has essentially taken over western culture.
Wow. So then, you you went on, you took your shahada, it was in the you mentioned that such masculine men, you see them getting teary eyed and date. So that was one thing that I found, like, for me, that was when you took your shahada, right, yeah, the sheikh Sheikh in the local mosque and he's a serious guy, like, he's probably got hands he's he's that guy's got that masculine presence. And can you imagine how many shahada is he would have, you know, facilitated throughout the years? Probably hundreds, if not 1000s. And when I took shahada, I saw a tear or down his cheek that he grabbed, you know, is headpiece, and he wiped it away? And I was just awestruck was like, here's a
guy who literally is intimidating and how masculine he is. But he's shedding a tear about the beauty of someone joining his faith. And that, to me was a really interesting moment. And I've seen and I think it's a tricky thing in today's day and age, how to be a man. I mean, it's we're under assault from so many different directions. You know, the Gillette ad being you know, boys will be boys, all of a sudden, it's bad to be a boy toxic masculinity, all these sorts of things within Islam, you must be strong, you must be stoic. You must you know, role model your own life after the Prophet alayhi salatu salam was a very masculine man, but also, he was very emotionally intelligent. He's
very caring, he was very just, and I think any man who was confused about how to be a good man and what positive masculinity is today, we'll do well to have a look at Islam have a look at the example of the Prophet Allah wa Salaam. That to me is the best way to express masculinity, its most positive and most beneficial form. I think it's a beautiful thing. And I think it's very needed in today's day and age when masculinity is under assault from pretty much every corner you can imagine. Do you think this also helps and people making their decision? Also, you have a lot of people that say okay, they live a certain lifestyle and they see now Islam is very practical. And let's say you have
men right and a man now he's used to let's say he's living a certain lifestyle and he's got a whole axis of whatever he wants and now Islam not only being a structure how to worship your creator you know how to deal in business how to deal with your your family everything's laid out blooper how to go to the bathroom every every detail, but now you know, also the struggle now that a person might have is saying okay, now I gotta be in religion and I can only be here with one family but Islam also did you see in this in this environment where fragile Take for instance, who's used to the same previous life he's, you know, got the whole door, whatever he wants with, with the counterpart,
right? Female part here, Islam, given the open Avenue where he can have up to four families if he has the ability to both lead not not just in terms of finances, but also in terms of that that patriarchal leadership and time into each each family unit. Does that thing play a role also, that that helps to like this is practical, it makes sense. Yeah, I think I've always said even man, 10 years ago, I used to say that Islam is the religion that's closest to biology, the closest to the natural way of living, and throughout history. And indeed, in many cultures today, outside of the West, you'll see that you know, the big boy, the village elder looking after numerous families,
because he has the ability to do so the idea that that's somehow a negative thing, or that those in the West can judge that as a bad thing. I'm sorry, in what universe? And what reality is, is anyone in the West and the moral high ground, have a look at the West, it's just nonsense. So I think it's a beautiful thing. And I think it's because I've heard you talk about the sauce. Yeah. And I think if a man has not okay, obviously, you need your money, right. But if you have the the ability to lead multiple families, and it's a challenging thing, obviously, big responsibility being being a good father, being a good husband, being that individual who is attentive enough to really take care
of so many different people, if you have the ability to do that, I think is a very positive, positive thing in a world wherever and saying, wherever the good men gone. Obviously, there's a shortage of good men who can lead families be good husbands, good fathers, if you're the sort of man who has it together enough in life as experienced enough as built enough of, you know, wealth and so on, and you can be that good man to for
multiple wives for multiple families. It's a beautiful thing. It's a noble thing. And so I think it's fantastic that Islam has that codified as a sacred thing. I think to be honest, one of the challenges you see in the West is the breakup of the family unit. If you have a system through which good men can provide for lead care for multiple family units, that's solving a problem that we see in a very direct manner. So I think I think it's a beautiful thing. And I think it's something that I hope
that almost stands up for because I see it's under attack in certain countries. I see that it's illegal in the UK, I think, to have multiple wives, but but you can identify as a lamppost and you can shop your private parts off as a kid, but you can't look after multiple families nonsense what utter illogical rubbish. There was a story of him I don't know if there's a joke but a chef was having multiple families and then the authorities came and they said, Hey, we heard you got to you know, you have multiple wives hear and he was about to be in some trouble. And he quickly he's like, not even my girlfriend. They said, Okay, no problem left.
Interesting, I think is a joke. Funny. So if you want to have superficial intimacy with multiple families, that's fine. Whereas if you want to be a responsible man who looks after multiple wives, then that's all of a sudden illegal. It's anyone in the West who thinks that you know, Western moral system is any way above that of the traditional values of Islam that they're just kidding themselves, it's clearly they are on the losing side of history and Tom will show that
inshallah so yeah, a few more questions. I'm really enjoyed talking with you. You know, seeing you come from just reminds me we all I'm a little bit older than you and just looking back and seeing my lifestyle and just coming and that zeal and passion that you're you know, just accepting Islam it just reminds me also of my journey and it's amazing and I and one of the key reasons I started this program was because I saw all the different misconceptions you know, you see in the media and I saw what Islam promoted justice peace mercy, love all these things but the media is having the people believe that it's about terrorism some barbaric you know, backwards but you know, to bring on these
stories and just another one like yourself some was very successful someone who's you know, telling people if you want to educate with Islam now and it's it's a competitive advantage in life and yeah, I don't mean that you know, in terms of like, ideally, you know, all of humanity is lifted up, but there are a lot of people who just will never choose Islam. For those who are practicing Muslims your life is gonna be better than this. That's a stone cold reality. So yeah, I really do see it as a positive thing and just one thing I'd love to throw in I've seen some articles lately saying that you know, a lot of men with conservative values
turning to Islam and this is concerning. All right, hang on a sec. That's a good thing. If you're a man with conservative values, you think the family unit sacred you think traditional gender roles are positive and should be protected? And you see that that same sort of thinking is is is codified and and resilient and protected within Islam then choose Islam it's a positive it's a good thing the idea that the West is trying to say all this is concerning that men with conservative values that are finding Islam I think it's the only way to really protect traditional values and and traditional way of life. I mean, what do you get if you break it down? Okay, Islam real simple you believe in
one and only one God worshiping the creator and the creation live a morally upright life because you will be accountable you'll be accountable so there's accountability and I remember you mentioning something about life you know, with that over your head a day of judgment, it holds one to a certain accountability of oneself and without that is on a moment to moment basis. Yeah, you don't have time to waste with with hedonism or drugs or superficial sex, you've got one chance to live on a daily basis you know Serato monster him live on that straight pathway don't get don't get pulled off it by all and that's the thing. What my favorite line in all of sulla is also bIllahi min ash shaytani
regime, I seek refuge in Allah subhanaw taala from from Satan the accursed. Tell me that isn't the plight of modern men, especially young men today, telling me that they don't need some kind of assistance in resisting temptation resisting or that liberal programming resisting all the hate masculinity is bad, traditional gender roles are bad. If you have Islam that is a shield. It's a superpower against all of that negative programming against workers and against liberalism against temptation against Hedden ism. I think young men, especially today in today's day and age where there's so much there's endless porn on your phone, you know that there's drugs accessible, there's
endless superficial, sexist, accessible young men of today, especially if they want to get the most out of their human experience that you know, day to day basis. I think they need to seriously consider Islam because how else are you going to stay on that straight path? almost akin.
Wow. What do you think is going to happen now with our brother, Andrew Tate, and I genuinely believe that Allah is the best of planners, and whatever happens to me regardless of whether I am martyred regardless of where they put a bullet in my brain
What's your feel now with everything because now they can only hold him until the end of this month? Is that correct? So do you feel they're going to let him go? And they're going to charge it brings try to bring some some chart, what do you see happening, I think in an ideal world, based on not just the lack of hard evidence, but also the lack of logic, but also the word exculpatory evidence, not sure if I'm pronouncing that correctly, the evidence which shows
that they are not guilty such as you know, these two main complaints conspiring and saying, Hey, let's go Netflix, in an ideal world, all that would be considered and there'll be let go. However, this is a big public affairs spectacle on a global level, just letting them go now, I'd have to think would involve a lot of people losing face. And so I think the you know, the agencies involved the individuals involved, they have a very clear incentive not to let the tape brothers out, which concerns me.
Again, if you look at everything in a purely objective manner, of course, they should be let go. And even just through the lens of basic logic, however, this is at the level where if they are let go, some people are gonna lose jobs, some people are gonna look bad. And those people therefore will, will do what people do and look after themselves and try and keep the spectacle going, I have to believe the truth will come out in the end.
I cannot see any, any way that they actually get put away for this. Because again, if through, and Romania is still an EU country, they have, you know, judicial process that should be followed, I understand that it takes time, I'd like it to be a little more efficient, to be honest, yeah, but understand the process to go through. If that process is followed properly, then they will see the massive holes in these allegations, they'll see the evidence that shows that the main complaints were conspiring to try and get on Netflix and all these sorts of things. And they'll see on a purely logical level, when you're pushing a Bugatti, you don't need to try and exploit someone to take
their Tiktok money, it just doesn't make sense. So I have to believe that this process will probably be dragged out for some time because again, people you know, certain entities involved want to lose face, but I have to believe the truth will win out. Inshallah, do you see now? Like, the confusion here is that I think like how, because you have different jurisdictions, even in states, and then you have certain things that are allegedly done and that these victims are in UK, for example. And then you have this as in Romania, so a complete outside, not just jurisdiction, but outside a totally different country. How does Romania and then they actually were found not guilty in UK. So
that's the irony here just doesn't make somebody it just doesn't make sense. As I understand it, the UK claims are civil, so there's just people trying to get money. Yeah, I understand. It's not criminal. Yeah. Whereas the Romanian piece of it is criminal. So that's the one that matters, defeating that as the one that matters. Yeah.
I would like to believe that perhaps this will be dragged out for another month, rather than the years and then there'll be released. However, I am concerned that it's dragged out this long without charges being laid. And as I said, there's all that evidence showing that you know, the main complaints were conspiring to lie yet they're still you know, restricted and not able to move out of their homes. So I want to believe in in the in the legal system, but wow, why is it taking so long? You know, it is a concern and it says, I don't know if you know, Amir Junaid goddess formerly known as Luna, they kind of look a little bit different to me today than how we've been seeing you in
those pop videos is Luhan. Still in there somewhere. Lauren is working his way out of my system from Bad Boy Records. He, he was with Puff Daddy, okay. He had some similar and we were I was talking to him the other day he'd like to actually talk with with Andrew cuz he had a similar situation. He was very famous hip hop artists. You can look them up. And he accepted Islam. And then shortly after he accepts Islam, he gets hits on some conspiracy charge. He didn't even do the crime but he was now years ago something came up and then boom, they locked them up and whatnot. So do you think any do you think there was any
reasoning here he ends up leaving Romania going to Dubai shortly after he says like a little he makes up the slum? And now he comes back, boom, he's India. Do you think now there's any anything to that? That because of his conversion to Islam? Yeah. They they. I think if it does play into it at all, I think it may have been one factor of numerous but to address that point
by raising another one I've seen there's even a documentary coming out on a question Andrew's faith, which of course is haram but there are some candidates who are pushing that so they're going to do what they're going to do that's something that's they're working on is gonna call me actually spoke to them the other day, the idea that and they're claiming that you spoke to them when I spoke to the these documentary makers just to stand up for Andrew the idea that Andrew
reverted to Islam for cloud. First of all, the most Googled men in the world doesn't even need more cloud, let's be real. Here they are. And the idea that it was some sort of strategic decision. If you're living in Romania and a strongly Orthodox country, is it going to be beneficial to convert to Islam? Of course not. And also, let's be honest, there's a lot of ill will and a lot of incorrect misperceptions about Islam, that you then take on once you become Muslim. I've told people I'm Muslim, and I've seen very strange reactions. And I know that, you know, people are saying certain things, I don't care, you know, I'm fine. But first, for a lot of people, it does affect them
negatively. And so the either or the idea that becoming Muslim is some sort of a strategic move. There's a lot of potential downsides that come with it. And one of them could have been that Andrew wasn't viewed as favorably in a heavily Orthodox country. Most definitely, I don't think it was necessarily a driving reason behind his, you know, his incarceration, but I think it might definitely have been a factor matrix. We've translated it me and one of my guests, Hassan, we translate it as the satanic forces, how would you translate the matrix? So my view is that because I, again, after the military, I worked in areas where I got to see, you know, behind the scenes and
see how the world works?
I think there's many competing matrixes Yeah, I think there's the corporate matrix, which essentially wants people to be cheap and buy what they're told to buy. I think there's the various government matrixes out there that realize there's a lot more of the little person, you know, the citizens than there are the leaders. So we need to keep them docile and keep them easily controlled, scared, you know, that's the fear levers that are pulled that to keep the sheep docile and easily controlled. And I think then you have other matrixes, such as individual government entities that have certain agendas, they want to have PR wins, you know, publicity wins, they want to show for
example, I'd say that Romania, wanting to show that it's a good country by locking up a guy who's hated on the internet, perhaps is a form of the matrix as well.
But I think the underlying push behind the matrix is indeed Showtime. I think it's how can we push people off the straight path? How can we make humanity more prone to indulging in temptation, more accepting of hedonism accepting of perversion, and you can see, and especially in Western culture, the way these certain agendas are being pushed even on children, that it's very clear to me that there's a strong satanic
motivator or underlying intent behind a lot of the modern day culture, which you know, is referred to as the matrix. What was your thoughts now on him being Andrew and Tristan being released? On the date that the matrix was? Yeah, it wasn't that interesting. What do you think of that? I think that's legitimate that the dates are that's when the movie was released. That's not conspiracy theory. That's, it's, it's proven. I think it's, I'd have to view that as a coincidence, more than anything, but also, I'm still reading man, I'm still trying to interpret these things. You know, is it is it called the law in some way? I'm not sure. There's a lot of meaning here. And I think, at
this point, Andrew tight is more than just an individual who says controversial things online. He's, he's a cultural icon, and he is the leader. Or you could say the preeminent leader, if not one of the top leaders against liberalism against the satanic forces that are looking to destroy the family unit, looking to destroy traditional gender roles, looking to de masculinize men and also take away feminine feminine tendencies from women. Women suffer a lot from all this stuff, too, because they're being shamed for being feminine, or for wanting to have traditional gender roles. So you know, everybody loses. I think it's very clear that Andrew Tate is now a cultural icon leading the
fight against this push for degeneracy and workers and liberalism. It's a lot bigger than one man at this point. It's interesting. You mentioned how this is hurting women. I mean, a woman just wants to go win a cop tennis competition. Here she goes, has a man jump in and he takes the lead right isn't that was a while but he also if feminism as a movement is shown to damage women as well, the more the more feminist a country is, the higher percentage of women taking antidepressants, the higher level of divorce rates, the higher on a logical level, the higher levels of conflict and relationship if men and women are competing about 250 50, it's never going to be as cohesive and
mutually beneficial as men and woman, you know, having polarity and then complementing each other and living as a team in life. So obviously, feminism crushes women in its current form. Of course, back in the day, it's necessary, in numerous ways you could argue to ensure that women have rights but in the West nowadays, what rights do women have that men don't have? If anything, it's flipped, look at paternity court and the way women are favored. And so many men out there not even having access to children. So the idea that feminism is anything but a female supremacy movement, which ultimately damages women, and men and families.
I think it's very clear and I think that's, that's the beauty of Islam. You can have traditional values, you can say no, I think it's healthy when a man is doing traditionally masculine things. I think it's healthy when a woman is doing traditionally female things and I don't think it's healthy.
for children to be told they can identify as a lamppost, you're allowed to say that as a Muslim, you can't as a non Muslim of the West, you'll get cancelled, right? Yeah, I still I can't. I'm always thinking I can't believe we've even gotten here. Now, you know, that was something that was just so obvious. It was some societies, scientific biology, everything. It's in your DNA. I mean, everything is there. And now they're convincing people that man can be a woman and woman can be a man and tell me that's not one of the many signs that Aquila is coming closer. It's real perversion in real time. Yeah. And I mean, I'm not in a position where I can quote, but what Andrew was on the interview he
identified at the sheet he had, he's joking. Yeah.
I mean, who are we to question?
Yeah, that's the thing, the hypocrisy of the left. That's the only thing that good, they're so openly hypocritical. And, I mean, again, the various leftists have come after take, their lives look miserable. They are timid men, they are disrespected by women that often they don't have, you know, much success in any area of life, and they're gonna judge men like us with the traditional values again, how's it working out for you to all the leftist or the woke types out there? How's that working out for you? How's the quality of your relationships? How, how calm and, and harmonious is your house, you know, how fulfilled Are you as a man if you were, you know, walking through life
thinking that, you know, being a man, it equals toxic masculinity, it's clear as day. But these leftist men that they're pretty good at being hypocritical. I'm amazed at their tendency to subscribe to workers and liberalism and degeneracy and Hinduism, live miserable lives as a result, but still defend their beliefs. It's it's mind bending to me. It's incredible. Some current that's going on Trump, what do you think? Are you following what's going on? He just gotta say, Yeah, I spent a lot of time in in countries where
the throughout Africa, Middle East, where governments were not even trying to pretend that they weren't just and they're doing whatever they need to do to keep power. You can see that happening now in the US, this is not justice. This is clear smoke and mirrors and propaganda and nonsense for certain power players to keep their power. It's so obvious. You can have somebody like Trump facing jail time, whereas there's a whole bunch of allegations about the Biden family without getting too political. Where's the media coverage on that? As I understand that there are images of Hunter Biden having sex with underage children? Wow, where's the mainstream coverage? And we know he's a heavy
drug user. We know there's a bunch of ties in between Biden and Ukraine and all sorts of bribery allegations. Where are the investigative experts in the mainstream looking into that? Again, that's I think that's the danger with the West, I don't think the Cold War event and to be honest, I think the fight against socialism and communism, or at least in its modern day form, champagne socialism, you know, that term, the idea of someone saying, Oh, I'm a socialist, while they're flying, the private jet, is just nonsense.
I think that's a form of control. I think when you look at a country like China with a social credit system, where they have that perfect blend of, we are capitalist, and we're making money, but hey, we're also communist, so therefore, we can control the people in the optimal manner. I think that's what's what you see happening more and more in the West. That's why you see this push for champagne socialism, for leftist values for for essentially, a communist style state says, again, we look at Stalin's head of security. He was famous for saying, show me the man, I'll show you the crime. The idea that, you know, a communist government can pick anyone and can find him guilty of anything, and
then therefore lock him up. That's the same playbook we see being used against Trump. In order for the leftist to maintain power. It's so blatant for those who spent time in the sort of countries outside of the West that I've spent time in, but here, unfortunately, I mean, the the majority of the population is sheep, that that push to de mask analyze that push to make them you know, compliant, feeble, scared, little sheep humans, it's worked. And so people are buying into this, obviously, nonsense and undemocratic push to lock up a man like Trump when you can see plenty of more glaring issues that should result in consequences on the Biden side of things, but this is what
communists do, and this is what the left does. I'm not sure whether I should talk politics so openly. But that's my beliefs on these things. So I'm in summary, now we've we've talked about a lot of different things and people can go ahead and get that edge like you talked about, you know, that's helped you and whatever someone has done in the past, you know, that's the beautiful thing when someone comes into Islam, they have a fresh clean slate and you want someone who's going to help better society and you want to feed that so they can come a better
a better instrument to push good alright so just something for people to think about, you know, the opponents to Andrew or whoever and we're rooting for the good for hope people ruining good for me, for you for all of us. We want to see peace establish on Earth justice. We want to see good families, people to be honest, we want people to be just we don't want to push evil
agendas, promiscuity, fornication, all these, you know, anything that will destroy society like you, you know that dark hole that's out there
providing for your families taking care of your responsibilities, you know, being a responsible human being. And these are the things that will help society to be a better place. And these are a lot of the things that now you're seeing that Islam it coincides with Islam. So let's what would you say is the summary now what would you? How would you close this off to somebody who's out there and you hear these terms, misogynistic hear these terms, you know, anti women, you hear these terms, you know, all these bad images that come with a certain person's name, and that we brought up or Islam also,
what I'd say is, I'll speak to the men out there, because I'm a man and you know, that's my lived experience. If you're a man, especially in the West, and you have certain beliefs, such as traditional gender roles are important, such as a man, it's your duty to be strong mentally and physically to provide protect, that if you are that high level man, you deserve a high level woman who is supportive, who was caring, who brings harmony and peace into your home, there's nothing wrong with that you are complete, you have every right to believe in those traditional beliefs, you have every right to live according to those traditional beliefs. And Islam will give you a
superpower if you will, a shield against the liberal degeneracy, the workers, the push of all these agendas that you see against you and your family members. If you're a man who has old school beliefs, and you want to be able to live by them in a way you can be proud of in a way that's easy to defend, then there is correlation, as you said, with the faith of Islam. And I'd recommend that every man with traditional gender norms or traditional family beliefs, and so on, have a look at Islam because not only will it help you protect and live by your beliefs will also strengthen them. And it will make you even more of that provide even more of that protector. Even more of that good
noble man, living a life you can be proud of that is the benefit of Islam. So I'd say to anybody, especially those in the West, who feel that their traditional beliefs are under attack, the ultimate traditional belief system, if you will, lies in that book, the Quran, the ultimate code with which to live life as a good man with traditional values, who's prepared to, to stand up and protect, you know, those he loves in the beliefs that he has, and his brothers and so on. That is all codified within the system of life that is Islam. So I think every every man, especially in the West, would do well to consider Islam to look into it with an open mind. Because my goodness, having recently
reverted, it is such an empowering
approach to both understand, you know, the big questions, you know, what are we here for to understand human experience, but also a system with which to live out your days, knowing you are the best human you can be, it's an absolute superpower.
appropriate to say it like
that the fact that it's a superpower, living living by the system, you know,
it just gives you so much motivation. It's a way of life you can live your life you can, how to live your life, how to run a family, your life even was a superpower of a world at one point.
It has everything laid out. And also just one final piece. If we're talking about role models, I think we should all be very careful of what we consume nowadays or who we look up to. And a lot of people that look up to say a basketball player or they look up to an actor or they look up to an influencer have been stuck for Allah. If you want to find a role model who's someone who can really say you know that that individual that that's a man I can respect. Have a look at the life of the prophet Allah salat wa salam, if we look at all different areas from being a leader in combat, you know, back in the day where it was swords, you know, you know, you know, behind a sniper rifle was
swords and spears, it's face to face, leading multiple families, all the challenges that come from that and, and you can learn about the you know, the challenges you face with that, with business with, with being persecuted with facing, you know, real strong obstacles in life but staying not just masculine and strong and resilient, but also very empathetic and very just a very caring. If you're looking for a real role model in life. Forget the influences forget the sports does read about the Prophet Allah salat wa salam, that's an individual who deserves respect. That's a man that's someone who you can look at and go, you know, in all areas of life, that's somebody who I
would like to role model afterward like to emulate. I'm sick of all these modern day influences people are looking at and consuming their content. How about consuming that content? It's gonna do a lot better for your life. Michael H. Hart, famous historian, he ranked Prophet Muhammad as the most influential man in history. Why not? Look at his law you read about Genghis Khan you're going about his Alexander the Great look in the Prophet Muhammad is besides what you read from all the Islamophobes and all the hate industry out there, look into this beautiful, what's what's a better place to seek or even to place your internet attention, our time and attention is a finite resource.
Why watch all these modern day influences who are famous for the sake of being famous? When you can read about something that 2 billion people have chosen as their truth? When you can read
About, as you said, the most influential man of all time, that's a role model that I think especially young men today should be consuming and focusing attention on rather than consuming all that influencer driven nonsense that's out there. You know, I'm sorry, I just I keep wanting to ask you more we got nothing about time.
Because when you talk about influencers, it's it's such a sad and it's a sad and obvious hypocrisy when you see people like the BBC and others, and you get just blatant misogyny was coming out of like people like Drake, for instance, many of these other hip hop start in the disgusting thing that they talk about women using them like cattle, and they just like, you know, disgusting words that come out of their mouth. Why? Why aren't you trying to shut down the hip hop industry? Or the you know, rap? Or, you know, people who sing such disgusting? What if you have such a high moral compass moral high ground? Where's the familiar? Yeah, I think it's a very valid point, I think the only
outcome that you can have you read somebody's the statistic, I had a psychologist, Dr. Leonard Sachs, very famous psychologist, and he was like, Man, the harm that this is doing to hip hop culture has a really dark edge to it. I think the only outcome you can come to from a very sort of detailed assessment is there are certain power players out there that one No, no, just I don't mean, could you I used to wake up, I used to listen to hip hop, all this stuff. I used to, like, you know, being in the music myself, that was just ALRIGHT. I think it's, that's what I love about Islam, it defines, clearly identifies it as evil out there, there is shaytan, there are, there are evil forces
trying to, you know, keep you off the straight path. Without Islam, people aren't really aware of that. So, you know, before you took, you know, the faith that we have really seriously, you were working in a nightclub or in the music industry. At that time, you thought there's nothing wrong with that, right? As most people wouldn't, it was, whereas when you are a practicing Muslim, you understand no evil does exist in this world. And I need to take certain steps to offset that otherwise shaitan, Satan will draw me into ways of living that are less than ideal, are unhealthy. But to your point, I think, if you look at the chessboard of life clearly and objectively, you
cannot help but come to the assessment that there are certain entities out there very powerful entities that want to disrupt the natural order that want to lead humans into temptation that want to pull people off the straight path, want men to be weak, want women to be masculine and unhappy, whether it's corporates, trying to just make people deeply unhappy inside, so they go and buy more stuff to feel good, whether it's government's wanting to break up the family unit, and take out religion so that the only source of guidance that you have is the government, you know, modern day culture pushing certain objectives that that are driven by by real real degeneracy and perversion,
to essentially weaken humans to weaken family units. It's all about control. And I think the reason why we see such consistent push against that which is natural that which is normal against, you know, cohesive family units against religion, is because if you are a God fearing man with a good family, who's, you know, inside feeling fulfilled, you don't need to go and buy an iPhone, that's the latest addition, with the color to match your personality in order to feel good. You don't need to listen to the fear campaigns that governments are pushing out to try and control you. If you are a good God fearing man with a strong family behind you and strong brothers, that is against the
intent that we see are the various power players out there to make humans into easily controlled sheep. I think that's why it is the way it is when you go even in this country, when you go back in time, the more you go back in time, you have less Yeah, people eat real food, I always I'm really into nutrition, awesome. You got people holding on to that family values. And you have so much more. I mean, mental illness was almost something that was non existent it was there but I mean, it was skyrocketing. Now, kind of set and again, if someone is, is mentally ill, then you could argue that they're not going to pose any sort of threat to the powers that be what what is dangerous is cool,
calm, capable, collected United brothers, who have you know, specific skills that can challenge governments, you know, think about if you are the elite, you understand that there's a lot more of the people outside the gates in their view, it is in your best interest to have the elite as weak and malleable and controllable and as sheepish as possible. We see that playing out in real time. It's to me that's why certain agendas being pushed on children and all this if you're encouraging young boys to be so de escalated to the point they want to cut off their own natural God given all sex organs. Is that not peak control over the over the masculine? Is that not peak control of
humanity? It's scary stuff, man. I saw Andrew doing a interview and then he was they were having one of these guys on and he was like my brain, my brain. It was like they're infecting me. I use the term minor changes person or map title and throughout the book for multiple reasons. First of all, because I think it's important to use terminology for groups. members of that group want others to use for
advocacy groups like before you act on
I'm have advocated for programming to try to put it in my brain for it primarily because it's less stigmatizing other terms. This is haram. Haram send her to Saudi. Let her repeat this * wrong. We need the will of God we need Allah. Listen, I'm ready. And you see that it's really he just really beautifully explained it in his humorous way. And just back to this is interesting because I saw also Drake an interview he was talking about when he was questioned about his some of the misogynistic songs and all that he was like it just art lyrics can really be demeaning to women a sort of fine line between demeaning and fun and wit, we have a song like I just want to
ask every girl in the world you know, that's one of our biggest songs, just just any other. But then the hypocrisy you know, someone from before who did these things, you know, obviously now we're changing better for with Islam. But just the hypocrisy anyways. So So back to this where were you have, you know, to go get a tattoo, you have to be a certain age. But what is it in Australia? I mentioned be 1818. If to go ahead. And even when you want to take your child to go and get a passport, you need both parents here in America and Chicago yet to pet if he's not if he's under 16. Right? Or 18. And the list goes on to drink alcohol. What is it? 2118 1818? I think here's 21 or 18
them to enlist in the military. What is it now? 1818? The Liske are are very good movie. What is it 17
explicit the content and songs you can't let it like purchase they sell it but smoking. But what you just said I mean, it's just amazing that they're pulling this over your eyes right in front of you that a child at such a young age, they're getting him set up for the puberty blockers not a four or five, I think they just put something this is where you had people protesting that they're showing these sexually exploited content at such a young age and then at another age, you know, getting them with a counselor, they don't have to tell the parents to get pretty blocky and bring in male strippers to dance and drag. You can bring in female strippers because that would be inappropriate.
Here's, that's another thing. You can take a child to a strip club, but you could bring the drag show to the as long as the drag people are men essentially. Yeah. And then New York spending like I don't know how much half a quarter of a million dollars taxpayer money for this stuff. That's a whole different topic. But this is what's happening. This is the matrix. Yeah. 100%. Why? Why would the West, why would Western governments care so much about such a small part of the population? I mean, look, I've never met somebody who identifies as transgender in my life, other than once in Thailand, years ago, when there was a lady at a hotel reception, then she spoken a deep voice, I
realize it was a man. Yeah. So in 40 years, I've met one individual who is in that demographic, why currently, as we see, every every post coming out from the official White House, or Joe Biden, Twitter pretty much, is addressing that very small demographic, because there's an agenda here. And from what I understand there's a growing body of individuals who are lesbian, gay, or bi, who are saying, No, we don't want anything to do with this, we see that this is purely the latest agenda with which to control the masses and to push certain agendas and to weaken, we can, you know, family values, and traditional values and so on. And we don't want to even even gay communities are saying,
We don't want anything to do with this, we see the way this is being abused by the governments, it's so clear, it's, and you know, in a few years, there'll be something else that they're pushing, this is all about control. That's all it is. So you need Islam, that's 100. Again, there is a shield against all this nonsense, there is a superpower, that if you put in the effort you can benefit from and it's a lot of effort, it's meant like I'm pretty committed to my reading, I still know nothing. Like it's wild. I've been I've been pretty serious about researching Islam for five years, I've been practicing now for, you know, about, I'd say about six months or thereabouts, you know, and
earnestly, like I'm doing the right things to the best of my ability. I still know nothing. And I still feel there's so much more than I need to learn. So there's definite effort involved. But if you put that effort in, I mean, I'm very grateful to have supportive, so many wonderful people as well. I'm very lucky like that, especially living where I live. If you do put in the effort into Islam, you have an absolute shield against all the nonsense and all the agendas that have been pushed on you and your kids. It's a very powerful thing. It's very pertinent thing in today's day and age. Look, we need to work together. Jews, Christians, Muslims, I really believe there is the
elephant in the room. We don't believe Jesus is God's Son of God, will he be the messenger of God? Let's get this out of the way. You have people in your own family who are Democrat, Republican, you still respect each of your family, right? We're the human family. So how do we get this across to our Christian friends and neighbors and others out there? Many are seeing this they're seeing that Islam is his last front standing. When I interviewed agitate for the first time, he saw this also and he was so
One who used to be a Christian, many Christians are seeing this even Islamophobes are almost like when they're seeing all the all the different colors in the churches. The Pope is succumbing everybody. They're like commend Islam is something to consider now. Exactly.
Yeah, it could be something there. Yeah. So what do you think? What do you say? I mean, this is so because much, we're much more powerful together, they want to split us apart. But besides we get this out of the way, the whole, you know, we still love Jesus a peace be upon him. But now as after we got the elephant the room, let's get on to bigger things. I mean, for me, I think regardless of your religion, I think it's very important to be aware that evil exists in this world. And that evil is after the minds of your children. It is after the health of your marriage, it is after your sense of being a masculine capable man, this whole term toxic masculinity, that's an assault on healthy
positive masculinity. That's all that is. So I think any religion that you choose to pursue, be aware of the fact that you need to take it seriously because the alternative is Satan, the forces of evil temptation, hedonism, liberalism, these things have a very real risk of derailing your life. And so if you don't actively practice a religion, which as per my lived experience, the most powerful and structured and and the one with the most depth is Islam, then you are at risk, you are vulnerable of having your life affected by the forces of evil. I mean, it might sound a bit dramatic, but I really believe that's where we are as a species. I really believe that Tristan, what
do you think? Did he actually Is he close to acceptance? Did he accept Islam? Or is he he just has a much more of a where's he at? I definitely hope that Tristan reverts however, he does take his his faith pretty seriously with with with, you know, his current faith. So I think that's one obstacle to him reverting to he does like a drink that's gonna be a big step for him.
But I do believe that he's a he's a deeply intelligent individual. He's a thinker like it's I'd love you to have a chat with him. He's so his perspective on life blows my mind off of the with the analysis that he shares on the on the human condition, the social commentary that he provides, but he just doesn't put it out there as much.
I have to believe a man of that intelligence and that understanding and that that analysis will eventually choose Islam because it's the only answer as to as to how long it takes. I think it might be a long path. But knowing Tristan and knowing his ability to properly read the chessboard of life, I think the inevitable outcome is him choosing it doesn't take much work when I we say a sincere earnest desire to one of the true asking the Creator alone for guidance and in doing your homework I mean, you look at problem hummus like what do you do it for money for fame for power for just is this crowd from the devil is it from a human beings when you one by one systematic? You knock these
things out? You see that? No, this could not have come from a human being there's too many facts not fiction in there from a good group of human beings. It could not have from from the devil it calls you to do things opposite to what the devil wants you to do. And on and on. Then it's like there's and then what's the motive? You know, the problem Muhammad who said peace be upon him, most of you will give me the when they said what do you want? Do you want all the beautiful women? We'll give you the woman? Do you want the pot? We'll give you the status? You know, usually there's something that people want, you know, he's the leader that people come in, he's sitting on the floor, not on
the throne, right? If you put the sun in my hand, the right moment in my life, I'm not going to abandon this mission know the truth. Why would it it's easy to to find an imposter. After you study his life a little bit, and you know, women,
how much time passes? When women when you have these fraudsters and they expose the man, right? The guy who claimed to be a prophet is that and then they come out and they start to name one woman that came from his wives that came out, except as praising him, that's the heart. This is very, very, you know, powerful. When you think about it. We're not talking to talk about just the Quran itself. You know, this is the meaning of the Quran, not the Arabic but this is another thing you know, this whole life is documented, it's not hard to find out if he's truly an imposter just look at and look at the message that he's bringing it 100% And the amount of depth the amount of benefit, I'd say
even if people haven't really accepted Tauheed they haven't really except to lead. Yesterday you are monotheistic? Exactly, even if they haven't really come to the point where they accept that yet. That will come with time. The more you read, the more you realize it's clear that still you cannot debate the the good that comes from earnestly practicing Islam both in terms of benefit for you as an individual, both in terms of benefit for how best you serve your family, your brothers, your community. Okay, it might take you a while to really accept how he but men you cannot deny immediately you start practicing Islam you'll be a better man you'll be more disciplined, you'll
meet you better out, you know, higher output more more ethical, just better able to resist the temptations and hedonism and nonsense of the world. To me. That's the starting point, which I think the Dawa community could focus on. He can talk about, hey, we want you to believe this. We want you believe that
About we live in a world where evil is real. You can see the agendas you can see the hedonism you can see the temptation through this book and through this faith and through the support of the OMA, you can resist all of that nonsense. You can have a shield against workers him against liberalism against people trying to attack you for being a man with traditional values. And you can go and no you are living on a day to day basis, your most ethical your most high output your most disciplined life. That to me is the key draw. So go ahead and tell me so you had some interesting happened. Your son, he also trains BJJ jujitsu and he he got he almost got bullied. Yeah, indeed. So my boy is we
started him with his boxing really young, both my daughter as well. And then my son continued with his boxing had his first fight when he's seven. And now BJJ is a focus. And my daughter is going on to gymnastics but she's got hands she can look after herself, which is great. But yeah, just not that long ago, my son was confronted by a bully who was few years older and I think a lot heavier a lot bigger. And I mean this this speaks to why I respect the fact that you've created an infrastructure with which to train your son to be you know, that masculine provider protector capable of violence but using it in a good way. The men are meant to be like this, despite all this
toxic masculinity rubbish that people try and push. So this bigger kid was was had my my son up against the wall and was was hitting him. And I said to my son, because I want to understand, you know, his his mental resiliency. So what was it like? He said, Well, Daddy didn't really land any punches. And those he did land up in hit harder before in the ring. So I'm okay nice, this mental toughness. I said, what happened? He said, Well, I was ducking a bit. And then I saw that he was punching with his hands down. So I, I hit him with my overhand right? I said, Where did you hit him, son, he said, I put it just here. I'm like, Oh, we're on the button. And what happened after that,
and my son said, and you know, fairly humbly, I didn't want to fight anymore after that debt.
And to me, that was a very gratifying moment. Because years and years and a lot of money and time spent teaching my boy how to fight not only did he demonstrate mental resilience, he wasn't fazed when someone bigger was trying to hurt him. He didn't get emotional, didn't get upset, he kept calling kept calm. And also he in a very efficient way, without hurting the guy, you know, excessively, he ended the fight. And I think every father should look to raise a son who doesn't start fights. But my goodness, he should know how to end them cleanly, efficiently. That's it. And so, for me, it was a very gratifying moment to see that all the effort all the years are put into
teaching my boy encouraging my boy to you know, with both boxing, kickboxing and BJJ, he is mentally resilient, he does stay calm under pressure. And even when he's being attacked by somebody, he can finish the fight in a way that doesn't cause any lasting damage. He doesn't lose his call and you know, jump on anyone's head. I think the fight sports are a very noble way to build a capable young man, but also a man of character, a man of ethics and mental resilience. What else? What other fatherly advice do you give to your son? So can you gotta train to be able to defend himself? What are the things that you teach him instilled in him and you advise other parents to instill in their
children to bring him to be a confident masculine male? Definitely, I mean, this is a subject to talk about for ages. But the might well the one thing I've noticed in business is the value of persistence. And Ted talks about this, you don't have to be the smartest guy in the world. But if you're that guy who finds one way to add value to society, he just doesn't give up. And it finds a skill that you monetize. It just works and works and works. That's where success lies. And so I've taught my son even at an early age, even when he was four or five. I say to my son, what happens when things get hard. So you keep going, Papa. And the way I sort of drilled that into him is when
we do storytime when I was putting the kids to bed, I tell them stories, and they could choose which way the story went. I say to my son, you're walking up a hill to fight a dragon and you know, rescue a princess, your legs are getting tired. What do you do? Do you give up? No, papa, keep going. Now you're fighting that dragon. You know, your arms are getting tired, you're sweating? You're exhausted. You give up? No, papa, keep going. So now even to this day, if anyone says to my son, what do you do when when things get tough in life, he'll instantly say you keep going resilience, just go over that persistence. This is real deep in his in his mind. And I think that will really
bring him benefits throughout his life here on a deep level, a big part of his identity is, you know, you got to put in the work even nowadays, I say to him, say look, I said to my son, look, when your dad grew up, I didn't know what business was. I didn't know what money was my parents, you know, both both broken on government welfare handouts. I said to my son with the benefits you've got with the role models, you've got around with the exposure, you have to business to the big questions he asked about global supply chain, about macroeconomics and so on. I said, you have the potential to build build businesses to build an empire to do incredibly well in life. And his answer is, if I
put the work in dead on a deep level, he is now holding himself to account to know that he can be that hero of his own story. If he puts the work in. I think that's quite a noble thing. The other thing that I really program in, if you will, or you know, role model, is I've made it very clear to my son that there are agendas out there and there are entities that want him to adopt belief systems that are not in his best interest to the point where he'll sit and he'll watch Netflix and say, Oh, looked at here we have a moment where a girl a little girl's going
beat up 10. Guys, he's calling out the nonsense. Even he pointed out to me, Oh dad, I see on Netflix, there's a girl power section. But there's no boy power section. Now I'm not going to push my politics on my boy. But I'll say, Why do you think that is. And then he knows that there was a push against masculinity. And there's there's a push against your toxic masculinity, there's this push to push women up. And his belief system is it's good to push women up. But you don't need to push women down, don't need to push men down, sorry. And he can see there is a push against traditional masculinity. And I've made it clear for him that he can choose his own belief systems in
life, he doesn't have to listen to what the TV says he doesn't have to listen to, you know what adults are trying to push him to believe he is the one who should choose his own belief systems in life, I think that's a very important thing. As a parent, you can't always be around to explain something your kid might see on YouTube, or to explain something your kid might see on the street, even, you have to teach them that there are entities out there that want to program you in a way and get you to adopt belief systems that are not in your best interest. You have the right as a young man, to choose your own belief systems in life, be skeptical of people who are trying to push their
belief systems on you. That's something I'm quite passionate about as critical thinking skills.
And understanding that me without using those words, shaitan exists. And he wants to make you an unfulfilled, unhappy easily controlled sheep. So you need to you need to watch out for that and offset it. And this is the thing when people who have denied God deny the Creator, when they see all the evil, and I've had a friend of mine who used to be also somebody who's denying but then he saw all the evil. He said, Man, if there is a devil, there has to be a god obviously. Yeah. And that's actually takes it as well. You cannot deny that Satan exists. Look, look at the way shaytan has overtaken so many areas of the west of Western culture. We talk about hip hop culture, we talked
about, you know, these different agendas being pushed on children that just don't make sense. Again, you could never bring a female stripper into a classroom. But if you bring a male stripper dressed up as a woman, that's fine. All this blatant nonsense, you have to see that evil exists or therefore by extension. God has to exist as well. I think it's very, it's very clear in today's day and age. Thank you, brother. Really nice. Talking with you. Any other words of advice or anything else you want to? I mean, yeah, just to just to rehash, I really do believe that if you're a man in today's world who has traditional values, and you want to be okay with those if you want to be that provider
that protector, that man who's stoic and mentally resilient, and you want to reject all of this liberal programming this workers in this this push towards Hedden ism, now go to drugs, now go and explore your sexuality, go do whatever, identify as a coffee cup, if you choose, there is a way with which to protect those belief systems, and to understand them even better. And that is Islam. And so I'd say to any man in the West, who is feeling that their belief systems are weird, and they are, you know, perhaps being ostracized or negatively judged for having traditional beliefs or believing that traditional gender roles are important within Islam, and the Ummah there are people who have
the same beliefs as you and that you can, if you if you adopt Islam, and you practice it earnestly, you effectively have a shield against all that work isn't that liberalism that Hedden ism, which is a very powerful thing, it's an age old thing. And so I think it's very positive to see those men with traditional value values, such as myself, such as the Tate's reverting to Islam. And I think more and more men who have those belief systems, especially in the West, and they feel those belief systems under attack. Islam gives you a way to realize that it's okay to have those belief systems that having traditional views is a positive thing. Understanding the sacredness of the family unit
is a positive thing, supporting traditional gender roles as a positive thing. Islam gives you that, that guidance with which to not only protect those belief systems, but to live true to them in a very healthy, very productive way, and a very clear code with which to live. And I really do hope that more and more men in the west with traditional values, close to the heart, consider Islam because I think it's, it's the only answer to to the evil that you see in liberalism and workers and all these agendas being pushed on kids and so on. Common sense now is if you see someone like Andrew Tate, someone like you and many others are saying the same thing now. It behooves you to go ahead
and pick up the book. This is the one that Dylan he said Andrew tape gifted him I think it was this one and we actually saw people go to the deen show.com We'll get this be a gift from me to you. This is the book there's the book that actually not this particular one but Andrew Tate was walking out of the Romanian jail with the Quranic correct and this is the one that you you you are telling people to to Islam everything is here read the book
about Jesus read the book is busted mother read about the book about till he pure monotheism purpose of life where you go on when you die, everything is here in the book, read the book. It's real. The amount of depth in that in that single text is absolutely life, altering the mind bendingly powerful and it's you cannot argue that the power that lies in that book is like nothing else. I've no I've not come across anything.
knock him off. Um, didn't I thank you. Thank you for again for being with us, inshallah we'll meet again, Charlotte. Thank you so much. That's a real honor. Brother. Thank you. You too.
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