The Deen Show – Reactions to Street Attacks and Quran with UFC Founder Rorion Gracie #874

The Deen Show
AI: Summary © The host of WWE discusses the importance of healthy eating, including the importance of avoiding negative health impacts and learning to defend oneself in specific situations. They emphasize the need for individuals to have a certain level of awareness and focus on their success, and emphasize the importance of learning to eat healthy and not drinking alcohol. The success of martial arts is also discussed, with emphasis on the importance of learning to defend oneself and not overdoing things. The speakers also touch on the history of religion and the importance of healthy eating.
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The originator of the UFC Mohammed did not have the $1,000 the man was demanding for repairs and he said that I'm going to kill him now then I hit no you're not touching my son and then immediately hit one right? So you don't drink alcohol and pork I don't eat pork you don't eat pork

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Assalamu alaikum peace Welcome to the D Shama your host How you doing? How you doing? As always I have an exciting program for you guys. Here on the D show. We have the Grandmaster Horry and Gracie. This is the originator the founder of the UFC. So those that have been watching Habib, and other greats hoist Gracie of the Gracie family. He's a ninth degree black belt. He's the father of Huron henner

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the brother of Hickson hoists hellsten holker. We got him here. How are you hearing amazing how are you thankful the opportunity Good, good. I want to black belt. Black Belt was a long time No, no, I mean red red belt ninth degree.

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Sorry about that. I had a lot to get in there and I forgot to mention probably over a span of over 10 years has probably had more challenge matches than most people in the family and so for those who are wondering what are these challenge matches, since most martial arts focus primarily in punching and kicking, flexibility, power and speed are absolute prerequisites for those hours

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so this is you now right

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there as soon as I go into what's he doing here he's got a nice warm up going on Hmm.

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to strike I did that whole idea at the time. Realize that now you know real

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fights are gonna end up on the ground. See, if you don't know what you're doing the ground race even tries to reach for my groin. I had countless of this kind of matches. But not only at a place like this one here happened on Camino College in California but also people who come to the garage bring instructors

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and show

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them the result of pretty much the same

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so this is you now this is a this is a hub Quito black belt yes

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so he goes through this not once or twice but he he couldn't wrap his mind around things Hmm

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It's kind of understandable position you know, this actually happened three times in a row a person who's been training you know, a striking art for a long time you know, 10 1520 years in front of a mirror on a school that's within the frame of mind of staying at a certain distance and trying to you know, hit your opponent with a specific punch or a kick, it's hard for them to you know, to conceive that in a real fight. It's it's more than that. Now people are realizing nowadays that a fight gets in the crease real quick and it goes to the ground or you know, the whole thing is not exactly what they hoped for within the limitation rules. So all these people had him and many others

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were just a wake up call to say hey, I can't expect my opponent to do what I want him to do you know, he's going to do what he wants to do and my goal and anybody else who does grappling is to grab your opponent take him to the ground where he's out of his punching kicking ability and then hopefully take the guy to submission that's the idea. This is a pretty big crowd here.

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Yeah, you know over time you and I was one of those matches they kind of kept getting bigger and bigger and bigger which eventually led to the to the UFC. You know what the times we did this and more interesting people showed up and then again, the crowds will keep getting bigger and I said we have to show this to the world. And that's what led to the creation of the show. Yeah, so last time we had you on the program you were given us some good advice for some proper nutrition eating with the Gracie diet for Ramadan. That's right, you remember that? Yeah, I've never done of course this you could right here guys. Yeah, that's where it's at. And a whole combination of degrees to diet

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and just change your life for the better. How was the feedback Did you get some feedback from when we last got together and there's always people that try for the first time they don't want to you know, they think that we're diet is very, you know, has a restrictive connotation to it, but I remind them that there is not a diet that you can't eat anything, you practically can eat anything you want. As long as you combined your foods properly. That's the idea. And the whole idea behind the concept of food combining is to avoid blood acidity, keep your body alkaline, which is you know, avoiding degenerative and contagious disease. That's the idea of keeping stay in your body. alkaline

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protected especially nowadays that whole thing going on everybody concerned about keeping a strong immune system and so forth

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the best thing you can do is let your health come you know strong from within I want to talk about some different things I mean I'm just gonna have a summary because you

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for people that don't know you have a very unique history you know you are in the grind you know someone who came over here in the 70s is that correct me if I'm wrong you know multiple times and then teaching and doing many of these you attain your law degree back in Brazil came over here you're at a YMCA one time and then you ended up you know leaving your money in your documents and then ended up getting stolen right and then you prolonged your trip for seven months for six months you know and ended up actually on the street for some time pat you know begging for money working as a dishwasher clean I mean you just been through so much you know it didn't you didn't get to where

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you were easily you know you were in the grind you didn't give up though you didn't give up well that's the whole idea is that everybody has struggled and your life is about problems. The question is how you deal with that there's no such thing that had you know life just a better roses that you have nothing to worry about or concerns it's not it and I learned very early on in my life that all bad things happen for a good reason.

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So I welcome you know uncertainty and not being quite sure exactly what's going to happen that's almost you know, I feel I'm not comfortable in that kind of state of mind you know, not having guaranteed everything and that he had made made it possible for me to try some things that are you know potentially very wild and crazy and it oh my gosh it's not gonna work and I tried I tried before I know it's happening and it would be life would have been very different if I didn't feel confident that even under a very stressful situation there is always something that we can do that can turn things around people are now willing to take a chance and I really want to do my and you

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know like the saying goes if you want to take over the island you got to sit the boat who came in so that's what he takes you know I came here determined to make it happen and the result is that we ultimately changed the world tell me I want to do something different here I want to do some breakdowns with you watch some some videos and get your perspective but before that you also just going into what you said is a lot of wisdom and some of the things that you talked about and experiences and some stories one was you can share with us a stood out with me when you were remodeling the academy down there and you needed this beam that for the and then the people who are

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going to be doing the stucco or whatever they gave you a time I said was tomorrow the next day and then you ended up in Home Depot and you need it is one part but the moral of the story you could take it from here was that you had always this faith you know what I mean? And you had this belief that things happen for a reason you know what I mean? Like there was a higher power the creator you know watching over and you're it's like you were making I'm sure within yourself these prayers and God like answered them you know you had faith

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that's it ultimately that's what it comes down to you know is that you have to believe I you know we're just little grains of sand you know and throughout this whole world that we live in and I have no doubt at least I'm very convinced strong believer that there is something out there people call it God or you know, whatever you want to call it. Um You know, whatever. But the bottom line is that there's something out there that runs the universe and that it mentioned that story that you mentioned that I really I need this specific support like a medal of support to fix a beam at the new Academy when you know the guy was gonna come in the next day to put a stuck my head to head that

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done. So I went to Home Depot and I asked the lady I need something like this, you know, a specific size. She said we don't carry that size. Well, we have the little small size, which is you know, for home use and stuff like that. That's an industrial side what you're looking for. And I said Where is they'll if they could keep the little home sized stuff. She said, well I'll eight, whatever. So I went to aisle eight and I looked around and as I'm looking around, they find one, which is exactly what I wanted, you know, the industrial side. And I brought it to the front desk and said they listen, they said I didn't have it, but I found one. She said well we don't sell this, I don't know

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what it's doing back there. In fact, if you run the barcode scanner thing, and she scan the little thing on the side of it, she said she's, it's not even from this shop, I can't sell it, it doesn't go to Home Depot, somebody must left it over there. I mean, I can't even charge you for it. Take it home so I took it with me for free. Something that if you go any other Home Depot at the time, they wouldn't have it. Now they probably have it in stock, but at the time they didn't have it. Bottom line is she didn't charge for it. I found exactly the one piece I needed inside of a shop like Home Depot to finish the job that day. So the next morning they stopped people could come in and finish

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the front of the whole building. Now those if that new sub piece wasn't there

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It will be in a mess. But like you said, you know, every time I take a step and doing something in my life, I come in with a lot of faith that something is going to happen. There's something watching over me and that you know it has happened. I learned to count on that kind of help. How's that?

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fascinating how it works. I mean, here's let's get into some of these videos and your reactions. So we know how important the headlock Escape is you have variations from the top to the bottom. And let's get into your comments and thoughts on this. This head lock escape

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Yeah, honey up Whoa, whoa, see difficult

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to get your hands on here.

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Yeah, I'm controlling your hand. I could talk to Sam. Yeah, because he left his hand go. You might come into smacked in the face.

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So this has a crop your farm? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm here. Now with full steam to the slide here. Okay, so now difficult for you to move. Move.

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What happened? Tell them what happened here. You squeeze my phone against the metal. So when a tone about finger all the time Yeah, because we announced our equipment headlock. No, no, no, no.

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So I got to put his hand

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down. And when I do this reaction,

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okay, well, pintas close to here. Yeah. So when a thing in here I want full stack Zilla here. So this is in case you're trying to find me back. If you find me back. If I post it here to my friggin pain, yeah, I hold this hang tight, and it's so difficult for you to hurt me. Now if someone has seen them seen it at all, you've seen it all you've you've you went away. You've you've won against all different grandmasters and hapkido. Akito kung fu and whatnot. And you've battle tested. You know, that was the whole thing of the UFC battle testing, not just in theory, how many people have those conversations? Well, my style, your style, his style, but come on. It's a science behind the

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jujitsu, the Gracie Jiu Jitsu, there's a science behind because it was battle tested. What do you think of when you see this kind of what do you what are your thoughts, your reactions? Well, we know he's presented one way in a circumstance that he made it possible to work I mean, he's going to do what he thinks works, ultimately, for me, is, like you said, it's battle tested, you know, the Gracie Jiu Jitsu, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu that we practice being done over and over for generations, and have the result that we see today, the whole world has embraced the question of the person who demonstrate a technique like that, so she she works for him great. How would that work in a real

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fight? You know, I guess someone who's, you know, bigger, heavier and strongest when you punch at him is that we have to, one way to find out, this is going to do it. Have you seen Have you been in situations where you have people who they're, they're mesmerizing, you know, people were, they'll throw some kind of, you know, force energy, the guy people, their students will fall to the floor and whatnot. And then Have you gone up against people like this and just dismantled and just everybody's, you know, people who, maybe they're sincere, some people, it's a gimmick, you knows, and a lot of people sadly, they end up developing this false sense of security. And that's what we

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want to try to avoid. You want to make sure if you're training the martial art that is going to really be able to benefit you, if you're attacked. If you're in a life threatening situation, you don't want to train for 2030 years, and then everything goes to waste, you know, so false sense of confidence of the art. Well, my deal is not to destroy people's self confidence. You know, no, it's never been, yeah, I've had, you know, dozens if not hundreds of people come to the garage back in the day, because they couldn't believe you know, when the students are telling, hey, I don't want to train who just instead of training this martial art with you, they got to say, hey, I want to I want

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to fight this digital guy. So they'll bring these shoppers to the Academy to the garage. And we had a chance to spar with hundreds of people in a very humane way. You know, like I said, most of the time, the people that came to fight to try to beat me up, were so impressed with the simplicity and the effectiveness. That jujitsu would allow me to have to overcome and control the situation those guys said, I need to learn this in a lots and lots and lots of them became students and friends and supporters of the whole thing, nothing against all martial arts, if it works for you, great. The bottom line is you have to think in terms of how without fear and an actual street fight. If you

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have a technique that works great. The reason I created the UFC is to make that very clear.

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He was so the people could compare different styles of martial arts. their very first UFC is if you recall, there were specifically I'll pick different representatives of different styles, put them on on the octagon, close the gay and say Do whatever you want to guys walk in one guy walked out. That's the that's how he makes it work. So ultimately, Gracie Brazilian Jiu Jitsu prevail in such a way that nobody goes into the UFC today at least have an idea of some basics of grappling. If you don't

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You don't have a chance. So my mission was accomplished when I was able to convey the message that you need to know how to fight on the ground. And that's where the whole idea you know came about and I was fortunately very successful at demonstrating that made a point of it in high schools in the area smallest lightest gun determine in shows everybody else how it's done.

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Let's go into this next video.

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The man in the yellow sweatshirt is livid.

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After his car was clipped Saturday night here in Jackson Heights, this is an accident accidents do happen, come down, I'll give you whatever you need to to get that okay, pair me up now.

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Mohammed did not have the $1,000 the man was demanding for repairs. And he said that I'm going to kill him now. Then I said no, you're not touching my son and then immediately hit one. Right Hook. Mo his son Adele watched his father fall to the ground here on 17th Street. And then I've never seen my dad knocked out and put in such a humiliating way like this. Never. You know, and I just scream did the loudest deal that I could possibly do. I just like it was so loud. But I wanted to cry I couldn't.

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A woman was with the guy in the sweatshirt. She tried to stop him. But then watch as he goes after Adele. At that point, you know, I think you saw it was kind of in a prone position. So I just kind of did this. And you know, I was just I could hear you know, pound pound pound. Police say the attacker took their phones and wallet. But me I was just shaking on control. I don't want anybody else to go through it. Because the guy he did it to me, he will do it to somebody else, maybe next time it will be worst. And while the welts are starting to heal, the emotional wounds are raw, I was embarrassed that I couldn't do anything to protect my father, that this man just trampled on our

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dignity that was really sad to see what what are your reactions now, when you see something could this if someone was trained, you know, love a blue belt. If he knew, you know, there is absolutely no way they would have progressed and had the elements to control his opponent. That's number one. Unfortunately, we live in a world that is you know, getting crazier and crazier by the minute. And people like that are not going to disappear. aggressors and attackers like that criminals should be punished, you know, to the full extent of the law. But sometimes you just can't expect somebody to be protected all the time. There is the importance of knowing how to defend yourself is where should

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learn, find a place where you can learn to defend yourself and practice that. And that would be good for him give him self confidence and the ability to defend himself. But ultimately, you just don't count on people being around to protect you. You have to know how to do it yourself. You know, again, those hoodlums are going to be around forever. It's part of life. So yeah, just has me thinking just you know, because a lot of people train Jiu Jitsu but the butterfly guard and other things. It's I mean, it's effective when you're playing sports or jitsu, but just knowing the core elements of Gracie Brazilian Jiu Jitsu is what we teach at our academy. Also, and this is what the

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Gracie system is about, is teaching you how to defend yourself in these situations. Absolutely. The idea of Jiu Jitsu has always been prepare you to defend yourself. It's ultimately a self defense system. So yes, the best you know what to say. So if you just want to see the sportive aspect of jujitsu, which is really good, nothing wrong, you know how to, you know, spawn the ground and roll around and stuff like that is great. But sometimes

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what happens is an individual goes into a school, where the focus, for example, is for divisions, right? So the guys training up goes up in the ranks, you know, blue purple, brown, eventually gets a black belt wins a tournament as a black belt. And because he was able to hold a certain position, he gets an advantage. And now even as a gentleman, a tournament, and now he's got a black belt. And I also open up by school,

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he opens up the school is going to teach what he knows, which is the same concept of this point will this homeowner depriving his students from learning the ultimate program of self defense, which is basically the idea behind jujitsu to begin with, so because the focus is going to be just on this foreign aspect of it and the sporting aspect of it, the students will never have the opportunity to learn something that would protect them in a real life situation. That is a problem.

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And in fact, this book here that my father did called Gracie Jiu Jitsu, which is now available, it's not available, this is the second the revised editions. It's, you know, we're doing a special selling the book, if you go to Amazon, you can find it over there for a special price $35 off, covers all the stand up techniques, exactly the stuff you're talking about, which is a movie like this.

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shows you what to do in different circumstances, that if you get, you know, find yourself in different positions and stuff no matter what that is.

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It covers all the different possibilities and different attacks and stuff like that this is the original self defense program that my father developed back in the 50s for the original Rishi Academy in Brazil, so forth. I highly recommend that you practice not only this kind of techniques, but find a school where self defense is the focus you know, that's the idea. I saw one time a video and this is how just stressing how important it is like basic things like headlock escape, because someone can go ahead and hold your head and just by knowing the proper technique of turning in towards a person instead of a way because I saw a video where someone was was choking someone and

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the person turns their head opposite and what happens they end up in a choke now and the person ended up going unconscious and now the person who's holding it he doesn't know to let go and he continues to hold so only God knows if he ended up you know brain damage killed the guy but if you know just from a few classes one class that you end up going to and you learn the techniques you know from that class that can be applied right away if something was to go down absolutely give me a call the difference knowing what to do and not know it makes all the difference you know down the street you know the future left or right you know, your left goes to one place you know right to go

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in another direction. So had your little bit of knowledge in this program was devised to teach you the whole general concept like 36 classes. It's basically it's all you need, you know, and if you get the basics on that no matter what situation you find yourself at eventually, at least you have an idea of which way to go it makes a huge difference. Now somebody asked what do you do in this situation Horia This is now a woman and what what what's your reaction to something like this now? A violent carjacking at a gas station in northwest Houston all of this caught on camera Yeah, thieves attacks and they robbed a woman there. The good news is police found her car and they have that

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surveillance video right there that may help track down these guys. Yeah, Chris Casa is live with more on how to stay safe and these kinds of situations and avoid becoming a victim Chris?

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Yeah, Roslyn reyka. Crimestoppers of Houston say these types of robberies happen all the time almost every day. The good news for that woman, those security cameras got a clear look at the suspects faces.

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The moment a woman is attacked gets caught on camera. Two men confront a woman at a gas station in the middle of the night, the cameras at the station, get a clear look at their faces. One man grabs the woman she immediately tries to take a swipe to protect herself to keep them off of her. The other starts going through her truck, the woman fights back kicking at her attacker until they both take off stealing her truck. Really sad to see and it's interesting you said they happen every day what someone says Look how gracious you are going to benefit me they're Well, number one is their safety. And you say important that you understand that too many males attacking one woman, there's a

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very good chance that she could get very seriously introduced to be armed another endless possibilities. So by her getting away from the guy, which is a smart thing to do is one thing. She also you know, as you saw, she was on the ground using the feet to keep the guy away, which is you know, one way to keep the distance she did what she could in that assuming that she didn't know anything. But you can't expect a woman to learn self defense and go out and have to beat guys up. That's not the idea. The idea is to defend yourself. I think she was very lucky that they you know, just took whatever she could to the truck and got away. Lucky that she wasn't a situation there was

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well lit and the cameras caught the bad guys, I guess. Criminals said hoodlums are going to be attacking people all the time. It's up to you to have at least a little bit of a basic knowledge of what to do so you can increase your chance of success and hopefully getting away safely and unharmed. Yeah, that's what I often tell my students is I mean now you're equipped, you know, to have a little more confidence, you know, to deal with some situations so at least you can get yourself out and you can and if not to go in. If you don't need to fight you can flee at least you can get out instead of being totally vulnerable. Yeah. And this is what we see like your father,

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Carlos Gracie, Helio Gracie, you know, the system that was developed. It was about survivals about you know, a small person being able to fight off and survive against someone who is much larger, stronger, dominant.

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And we see your father you know, fighting for like three hours and 40 minutes in some good is the idea if you don't if you know a woman like that, for example, being able to go home she won. Yeah, see, if see if you see a cheetah chasing the little deer. If it escapes, he won you don't have to watch

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that night.

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I remember you were talking about this love and reverence that healio had for Carlos Carlos for healio they were

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You know, they also between the two had 30 kids.

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Yes. Yeah. And tell us any stories that come to mind you know, from I know your father at one time he actually saved someone from a ship. Right? Someone was, uh, he jumped off the ship to bring them in. Yeah, the guy doing going from Northern Brazil on a ship on a resume to Rio. And halfway down the coast, a passenger, you know, goes into the water. Nobody knew at the time, but they got to try to commit suicide. That's how you got in there. Yeah. But then they see a guy floating on the water. You know, everybody see deputation, the captain sends a boat with five sailors to rescue the man. And the guys like, you know, a couple of 100 yards away from the ship by the time they got to him.

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And the man was so weak that every time the little boat, the tides were going very, you know, up and down, and every time the little boat got close to him, it will get a grip on the man, the tide will lift up the boat, and they will lose grip on the guy. And they try that over and over over several time. My father wasn't the deck the ship thinking out loud, saying how come somebody from the little boat does not jump into water, so they can help the guy up because the man is obviously too weak, he can barely keep themselves afloat. And a sailor behind him said this is our brothers, thinking that my father knew what our brothers man, and my dad had no idea, a brother who happens to be the one of

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the highest concentration of shorts on the Atlantic Ocean. Yeah, yeah, umbrellas week, on the coast of Brazil. So the guy man is they're not going in because there's this is sharp land, you know? Anyways, my father not knowing that, just watching like everybody else's situation to the captain signals to the guys in the boat, to relieve a metaphor to let the guy leave the man behind in row back to the ship. So now the sailors are rowing back to the ship after leaving the guy behind the middle of the ocean. So at that point, my father turned to his brother Carlos, that means we're going to be left today. You know, you want to go save the guy, Uncle Carla said, I can't make it.

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And my father said, I think I can't, he said, Go for it. So my dad down, he stripped down his clothes in, you know, jobs forever, and then jumps off the ship. He said, when he was airborne, he thought, what if there are sharks,

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you can't rewind that bucket. So he went flat, and he started swimming towards the guy, hey, there's a little boat is returned to the ship, we say let's go back. And they turn around, they all go back to where demand is. And ultimately, he is in the water with the guy who helps the guy out and put them on the show and the little bullet and they bring the guy back to the ship and so forth.

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And when he returns to the ship, the oyster boat up.

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And then everything is resolved. And my father is ultimate, he called me to the captain's quarters, the captain will talk to him. And he said captain, I'm sorry, is it is Mr. Gray said don't say anything, said the captain to him. Let me tell you something. If my mother had come to visit me here in this region, in this area, and on getting out of the boat, to step into the ship, she fell in the water in her life would depend on me fishing her out of the water with my foot. I wouldn't do it for my mother. So what you did is nothing to apologize for regulations. Thank you very much. But I'm only hoping to have a party for anyone to ship and stuff like that was a good. Many years later, I

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asked my dad, dad, were you afraid?

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He said horrible. I was absolutely petrified when he jumped. He said I was so scared that I was swimming as fast as I could to get to the man. So that if shark showed a shark showed up, he would have a choice of biting him, instead of biting me. That's how scared I was.

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So ultimately, feeling fear is only a natural thing, of course, especially under the circumstances. But I want to I want to bring the attention here to our listeners, that fear is part of life. You know, to be afraid of a certain situation, here's that is a defense mechanism that was to protect you. Anybody who says I'm not afraid of anything, I'll do anything that's an inconsequent person. It's not that he's not afraid. He's just not thinking straight. He's not very bright, you have to measure your chance of success. To jump on the water that potentially shark infested water is something that you should be afraid of. He will say, however, what my father saw in his

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circumstance, was that he saw his mission as something bigger than his fear.

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So for him, the idea of seeing a man drowned to death. It was not, he couldn't accept that. He said, If I can, I'm gonna try to help the guy. So he jumped was swimming like I said, very, very scared God to the man and did putting gaiwan inside him for help to put the guy on the boat and save the guy's life. Again, he embraces fear as something bigger, you know, I mean, his mission is something bigger than his fear. So this is what we have to do. Sometimes you find yourself in a very difficult spot, and you have to kind of be able to to understand that you know, prioritize yourself and see if it's something that you should be

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You're pushing as hard as you can with the lights behind it and so forth. But fear is just part of the deal. Don't expect to live without fear because that's not going to happen. Once again, we're with the innovator, the founder, the originator of the UFC, the one who started at all, ninth degree red belt, Grandmaster, Horry and Gracie. This was before Dana White. Where was Dana White at that time.

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I don't know what to do.

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For him, he did a great job promoting it. Yeah, I'm gonna stick my hat the guy did an amazing, amazing. Get to make it. Yeah, one of the biggest, if not the fastest growing sport in the world. Very popular all over the place. I'm very happy that it was a good transition. One time I was having dinner with him and I said, Hey, I feel like I follow the baby. You adopted a child sent him to Harvard. Now the kid is running Wall Street.

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Yeah, but many people don't know that. This was before Dana before the two brothers. This is way this Yeah, this is the the original, you know, when it all started? Yeah. And you were doing all these even before the UFC. I mean, these challenge matches, though, that were happening, you know, to prove without a doubt that Gracie Jiu Jitsu is the most effective martial art not just by theory. But actually this was the science is battle tested. And then you went above and beyond. And you started also, to bring back to light something that Carlos Gracie was really adamant about, about nutrition. And the last time I remember I'll never forget, I use the I still use this a lot when I'm

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talking about one of my favorite subjects. Nutrition is how people are managing the symptoms, and not going to the root of the problem and strengthening the immune system and you made an example. It's just like the check engine light that comes on and you put a band aid over it. Right? I got that from you, you remember that. And then take off with this take off with this, you said the world champion who cannot beat his desire for ice cream.

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You know, this is a big problem, we'll talk about this. Well, ultimately, you know, for you to be successful at anything. One of the strong ingredients is discipline, discipline, you have to be self sufficient to have the willpower to do what it takes. If you want to be to succeed and excel and to go beyond everything, it's going to require that you have certain qualities, you have the willpower and self control the discipline to do that is really important. And if you want to be healthy, you have to study the same way you learn, you know, you want to be an engineer, you have to study engineering. And if you want to be a doctor or a teacher, whatever pianos, you have to study that

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subject. And most people learn to eat great grandmother, teachers, Grandma, grandma, teachers, Mom, mom teaches us and we're gonna teach our kids will be likely. For most people, the pleasure, the flavor becomes the determining factor, why you eat something, then you don't eat other things. I like it, I eat it, I don't like it, I don't eat it. But like you just because you like it doesn't mean it's good for you.

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The trick is to learn to like the things that are good for you, that's the secret is easier for you to develop the habit for something that's not you know, good for your health. So the secret for failure is a few bad habits repeated every day you can do the same thing over and over and you know, eventually you have to pay that bill you know there's gonna have to catch up with you. You can't assume that you keep doing something wrong over and over and over it's gonna catch up with you more the same way the secret for the sick the formula for failure is to repeat the same bad habits every single day.

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The formula for success is to embrace new healthy habits little by little keep changing you have to rearrange your life so you have to choose the right thing. You know, we're here to grow into spiritually mature and evolve and so forth. You can't you're not here just to eat, wake up in the morning, have breakfast isn't the same, and then go to work and make a paycheck, go to the bathroom and go to sleep at night. And just that's not it. We have to go more than at the spiritual aspect of our life. And the food the discipline of learning to eat the right thing is very important. When I was five years old, I go to birthday parties with my brothers. And when we get there the fathers of

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the kids would cut a piece of you know chocolate cake or whatever give it to him buy a piece of cake. I say no thank you very much not my time to eat. Hey, I have a five year old kid telling an adult it's not my time to eat Thank you very much. You call my desk Hey, what's going on, the kids had a birthday party not in the cakes. It's not it's time to eat.

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And my father had to explain that we have a certain diet and read certain things. We just went there to a party and play with a kid but don't worry about us as far as feeding him. Of course my dad was wise enough to feed us dinner before we went to the party. So then we'd not be hungry looking at a piece of chocolate cake wanting to eat that. But right everybody's uh, you know, floors, you know, just went there to play literally. And for us, the concept of learning how to eat properly, was much more than just the food combination.

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was the fact that we develop a level of discipline that would service in different aspects of our life. When you is a doctor more or less time was ready for Ramadan? You know, why don't you know why do you? Why do you do that, while you obeyed that concept? Why can't you just go home by yourself and just say, There's nobody home, I'm going to stop myself at noon. Because you know, this is not where it's at. You have to respect certain things, like look at yourself in the mirror and say, I'm doing the right thing. So the same thing for us was for me, or for the family, was the concept of the diet, we eat certain things. We don't make certain things. There's a certain guideline, and I'm

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seven years old, and he said in a couple of months, I feel great. And then I can never had a cavity in my life. Wow, my body was I don't take medicine for anything, and suddenly is Oh, do you ever go after 50s thinking five pills a day, you're gonna say everything works fine the way it should. My clothes size that I wear today is the same thing I was wearing 2550 years ago, when I was 25 years old. So bottom line is that it pays off to be healthy. In the long run. I think I mentioned to the last time I saw my dad

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I went to visit it was Melanie's Rachel Brazil, six months before he passed away, he was 94 and a half, I went to visit the old man. And when I get there, he gives me a kiss and say hey, let's go on in math, I want to show a new truck I'm working on and 94 he kicked my butt. I mean, that's the way life should be you lived in as long as you're young. And then you die given the same because all of us will people that we love dearly. In as they get older, they start deteriorating and getting weaker and sick and just kind of holding some falling out is said and unfortunately for them, going through that kind of pain who sometimes experience it for us, there's not much we can do to watch it

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a lot of person just kind of, you know, deteriorate and just kind of define weakness, not good. My dad was different. He lived like this for a long time. You know, and then went away one day just gone. That's the way it should be. You know, that's the way it should be for all of us. But if you only invest on your health now, it's it's gonna be one of those, it just goes like, little bit getting worse by the end. That's not good. That's not healthy. That's totally, you know, my theory is that you have to seriously consider how do you want to spend the last 10 years of your life. You don't want to spend 10 years you know, joyfully enjoying playing with your children, grandchildren

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and great grandchildren, you know, rolling around visiting, you know, traveling and having fun. And then when Wait, now you wake up and say I'm out of here like my father did? Or do you want to just getting sicker and sicker and getting worse and all kinds of health problems? It's not. It's not what it says. I'm living proof that this race that stuff works. The combination pays off.

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65 years 67 foot combined. He was not a doctor, he just did research on his own, came up with some amazing conclusions on how you should combine your food. And if you don't mind, I'll give you a quick breakdown here. Two minutes. Yes, please. One. Number one, we do not mix starches. When I eat bread, I don't eat potato. If I add rice, I don't eat beef. Anybody in Brazil is rising me? I don't. So is the fact that everybody else is doing it with our ignorance. They're not sure exactly why why not. They just develop the habit of doing it. So we don't make starches. Okay, it's better to have two hamburgers than had one hamburger and one french fries. Because the bread and the potato and

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different starches, you should not be making the same meal, I can have the rice and I can have the beans or not rice and beans together. That's the idea. So that's rule number one. Number two, when we eat food, like cooked food that is prepared with oil or butter or fat of any kind, we do not eat sugar. In other words, after you have a meal that you have, you know, fish or chicken and vegetables and pasta for example. You don't want to have fruits, you don't want to have like a bowl of ice cream or a piece of cake for dessert. There is no dessert, because they used to have sugar and sugar with fat that the food was prepared with is not a good healthy combination for you. So no dessert.

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Two reasons. Number one, you're not hungry. After you have a meal. Usually not hungry. You just like a little sweet because it tastes good. That five minute of pleasure there has long time negative consequence on your health if you do that for a long time, not good for you. So take now, you know trust me on that. And rule number three

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is that you must wait for one meal to digest completely before you eat a second meal. In other words, if you have a meal at eight o'clock in the morning, you have to wait at least four and a half to five hours until you eat the next meal. There is no such a thing as snacks in between us. We don't have a breakfast breakfast at eight o'clock in the morning and then at 10 3011 o'clock you have a fruit or you know a little cookie or a cup of coffee and then a couple hours later you eat lunch no such a day. How about liquids? What about something that liquids will only water

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only one fresh coconut water

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for regular water How about water with lemon with lemon honey? Oh no no no absolutely not. In fact lemon is an acidic fruit which is extremely beneficial for your health but it has to be taken almost as medicine when I consume lemon I make a half a glass of lemon juice please I cannot put water or sparkling water or fresh coconut water and I drink that once a week such a major boost for your immune system what do you fear as a Neil eight o'clock in the morning then I waited to one o'clock two o'clock in the afternoon you had regular lunches yeah yeah cuz i know what i mean we know water is so important but getting the water the enough enough water into the system by itself sometimes it

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can be daunting so I myself I like to put lemon a whole lemon into the water and a little bit of just a little bit of honey and I'll drink a lot of water this way What do you think and i don't i highly recommend you don't do that no no lemon go down you know nothing just water just wanna gotta get used to your drink if anything drink coconut water fresh we're going to one don't get the one in the box I can't have something that gives you an idea good yeah but too bad if we can have access to fresh water not great if not just regular water okay just feel healthy so that we can do interviews like this yeah absolutely yes and next time we got we got to make it you know I've been down there

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if you're going to visit if I'm we got to do one in person if you're ever in Chicago I don't know if in the future you plan on being in Chicago we can bring you actually in the studio or if I'm there in California hopefully we can meet in person do the interview in person next time how's that sound? Yeah So just a few more questions before we conclude and just just to comment on you know, it's it's really tragic it's sad because you have 70% of us here in America that are obese or overweight Do you have this is the first generation of kids not expected to outlive their parents you know you have you know, people on multiple cocktail of medications you know what I mean? One of one I believe

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it's one in two males was suspected have cancer one in three females. It just chronic diseases is just an epidemic explore, we prescribe more drugs, but we have more sick people. It doesn't make sense. And nobody the majority of people, the healthcare system is not talking about you know, the food. You know, most people don't link the food that they put it put into their body to the disease and everything that's happening because the system is not set up like that. Correct. Hippocrates, the father of medicine, that let thy food be thy medicine, medicine and medicine be thy food but Yeah, it does. Yeah, I do. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, so this is so important want to stress this you

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know, this fact about food you know, get your food right. You know, this is going to be tremendous for having an impact on your health. Again, the book, the book is available on Amazon. I highly recommend your listeners to check it out. You know, it's the best thing you can do for your health. Yeah. So you don't drink alcohol? No, you don't eat. I believe I've read the book. years ago. Pork I don't eat pork. You don't eat pork. Okay.

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I can recommend people don't do a sweet pork. Okay. I personally don't eat red meat. You know, maybe chicken once a month. Well, yeah, a couple of

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weeks. Yeah, so we ended up we shouldn't eat that much meat. I mean is overconsumption of meat but you're you're not you don't restrict yourself once in a while. You'll also eat meat right? Chicken like you just said, Yeah, I lost the taste for it. Yeah, I just I mean it tastes It doesn't mean but yes, it's on the diet. Okay, if you want to eat it.

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What was he Carlos Gracie Jr. was talking about something about taking on the attributes of when you eat red meat. You know this, let's say you eat the the meat of an animal that is aggressive. This will make you more aggressive. This was the philosophy something like that. Is there something to that?

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Um, not sure exactly what he meant when

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he read me he himself did not he and

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his son. I was talking about his son. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. If you need to be in the middle of a live interview that aggressive is aligned with not sure exactly what he meant. Yeah, but he probably has the eye animal when is going to be slaughtered dead boy stress a very, you know, intense and stress. Yeah. All that kind of stuff. Maybe that's what he meant. Yeah, something like that. Yeah. I mean, that kind of meat. I mean, you might, who knows what kind of, you know, residuals are going to go in there in going to be assimilated that kind of stuff. So you have a reason you're better off not eating red meat. I agree with that. So you have no pork, no smoking, no drinking, eating good food,

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having a big family. I mean, you know, in Islam, we're allowed to have up to four wives. I don't know if you

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saw but you have to take care of them all individually. They have to have their own place. You have to, you know, monitor and take care of them. It's not like you know, they're all

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In the same you know but yeah so this is a response a huge responsibility but then I just see the similarities you know I see much there you know when you you know you're yourself you have 10 Kids also a big fan is a 10 kids or loving now yeah your father had between him them to 39 for coffee 21 yeah so and i and i would see I would see like you know quotations from your father he was he would mention God Who are these were these actual his words you know whenever there would be something about the creator about God Oh my father was a man of faith he believed there was a definite creator on their run the universe for sure. But yeah a church going man but yeah a strong a firm believer on

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the creator yes yeah, this was something I mean my family's from the heart of Europe Bosnia. You've been you've been in different places in Europe right have you ever been to like Croatia Serbia bosnia anywhere around there? Okay love to visit oh this is a play you know put on your to do list but it's interesting this is where you know the roots there they were also the people in my heritage tradition to the Bosnian people they were also ones who believed in one God the credit and go to the churches or they believed in Jesus but not as literal as God or Son of God and when when Islam came and fit like a glove that pure monotheism only worship in the creator not the creation then they

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accepted it so and then all these other you know, it was the belief in just one and only one God and being morally upright so you see this you know this from yourself and your family. I mean, we all have people in our family who do opposite to many of the things but it seems like there's this good moral moral code this compass and also many of these things, it's very very, very refreshing to see especially in a day and age like this where you know, it's all sorts of madness and crazy and no discipline willpower is out the window and people are just following their desires and passions and sinking like a sinking ship. Yeah, right. Immediate pleasure, that kind of stuff. It's not good.

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Yeah. Take a long term on everything. Yeah. So let me Let's end with this. You talked about spiritual, evolving spiritually. And again, I just wanted to do something different to show people can go back and see many of your other interviews for much more of the history and whatnot. But I think a lot of the audience we have a variety of different people from all over the world I think they would just really appreciate this next video just to get your reaction just to you know for a minute to tell us what kind of music do you think this is what does it sound like you know, just whatever you think from listening to this for one minute this

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What is it? Yeah it's a it's a nice sayings and good guidelines. I guess. Ultimately, that's what every religion I guess has as a goal is to inspire his followers to do what's what's best and do the right thing. So I think somewhere in there, they all kind of connect going for the same thing. It's Grandmaster Horry and Gracie again really nice to reunite with you and have you on the program and again the book now very important self defense being able to defend yourself you find yourself in such a vulnerable situation like you saw the father and son the guy knocks both of them out you know and the antidote for that is getting educated in Gracie Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and then you put your as

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we have a saying you tie your camel then you put your trust in God right? Yeah, bacon Allah tie up your camel. Yes, yes. Yeah, two more things if you don't mind number one is that people don't want to hear more stories or more degrees. They should check out Gracie Gracie newseum calm. This one is a virtual Museum, which you can do a 360 tour. And there's really interesting. And of course, the book until October 5 is on sale on Amazon $25 off, I highly recommend that as well. And if you want to be healthy, aggressive diet, check it out. Thank you so much, again is an honor to be with you again. And hopefully God willing, we can meet up again soon. Thank you very much again. God

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bless you. Thank you very much. You're welcome. Thank you. So

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All right.

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