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Muslims React to Former Islamophobe Owen Benjamin. Reaction with love to Owen Benjamin is an American comedian, actor, political commentator and has been in Hollywood. Graduate of Harvard Daniel Haqiqatjou from muslimskeptic.com and Institute www.alasna.org gives his Reaction to Owen Benjamin having a change of heart towards Islam and Muslims.

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He's got to

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be reading the crank, guys. Just don't hold your breath on that. But Islam says that you can't just kill people. You're not allowed to. They use the media to drum up this hatred of Muslims that we would beg for own enslavement. So many good hearted Muslims that are withstanding evil, and Islam doesn't have the rage in it that you're told it does. One of the reasons I even started looking at mozzies is because of how much ben shapiro hates them. Anyone ben shapiro hates that much. There has to be something there. That's good. I probably should read the grand

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man Mohammed peace be upon him. This is

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smilla hamdulillah salaam aleikum greetings of peace. Welcome to the deen Show. I'm your host. And we have from the Muslim skeptic Daniel hochiki. Happy hockey. How are you? Good. Good to have you with us here. Yeah, my pleasure. Great to be here. How you been? Good. I'm going you know, how you doing some? Some went from Greek Greco Roman wrestling. Some good upper body? takedowns. Yeah. To some jujitsu courtesy of shallow. How's that? Making some good memories? How's the jujitsu? Great, very invigorating. Got my blood flowing. There's some good push ups here. I see. Yeah. You got a good shot. You got a good strong grip you want but you don't want Daniel grabbing? Yeah, they can

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see the grip here here. Now let's do some grip fighting. Yeah. Yeah. So we're talking about this is so important. Um, so tell us before that. So you're from the Muslim skeptic. This is where you tell us a little about about your writing. Yeah. So Muslim skeptic calm is my website. And I dedicate the website to addressing common doubts in Islam, trying to strengthen the faith of Muslims by addressing the shubo hat, these doubts in Islam. And so my background is in philosophy. I studied philosophy and physics at Harvard University. And hamdulillah. You know, as I grew, in my knowledge of Islam, I realized that there are certain issues and questions that Muslims have in that I had

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about Islam in the modern world. And it seems like Islam clashes with a lot of modern values. And I want to understand like, okay, is Islam right? Or is modern values coming from liberalism, feminism, secularism, materialism, atheism? What's right here, right, because it's either Islam or the other. And so I want to do that kind of analysis and use my education to address these issues and show to myself and to others, that Islam is the truth. Islam is the pinnacle of rationality, and morality, and all of these different aspects of life. And so a lot of the doubts that some Muslims have is because you have a system that saying, No, the best that the world has to offer is coming from

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atheism is coming from science is coming from secularism is coming from liberalism, and Islam is just backwards stuff from the seventh century. That's not relevant, that's not applicable, the Quran is full of wrong ideas, all of these doubts that some Muslims get influenced by and you know, lose their faith by and so I felt the need to address these things. And that's why I studied philosophy as a physics. And then I want to use that for helping the community helping Muslims with these doubts. So Muslim skeptic calm, is where I do a lot of writing and videos. And then I started an institute as well called a Lesnar Institute. And we can talk about that, but it's dedicated to

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courses addressing major issues, like why do women have to wear hijab and not men? Why is it that in Islam, there are certain gender roles? What about equality? What about polygamy? What about certain things when it comes to Islamic law? Islamic law seems very barbaric to a lot of people in the world today, including Muslim, some Muslims, unfortunately. So how do we show that no Islamic law the Sharia is not barbaric. In fact, it is guidance, it is the pinnacle of rationality and morality, that all of humanity can look to for guidance on how to live and how to organize and how to be in this world in this dunya. So this is just a sample of like what I talked about. So this is very

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interesting from someone an academic who actually graduated from the prestigious Harvard University. I got an opportunity to study there for my undergraduate degree. And like I studied physics because at one point, I thought that what how am I going to understand the world around me? How am I gonna understand myself? What are the source of some of these answers? And what the modern world says is that science is the answer. science can tell you as an answer all these questions. And so that this is the kind of delusion that I was suffering from as a youth in high school. And so I want to study physics.

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And then when I got into physics at Harvard, and you have professors who have won the Nobel Prize, and are considered the top in their field, and you ask them certain basic questions, and they don't know the answer, you know, they can talk about these equations, they can talk about, you know, the motion of matter and energy and all of this. But then you ask them a deeper question like, Okay, well, where is this matter from? Where is this energy from? How can you explain this and that, and then there will be no answer. And they'll be confused. And they'll kind of brush you off, like, stop bothering me with this. So that was a wake up call that okay, this is a very limited way to know

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is physics and science. And so that led me to go to philosophy, but philosophy also has these kinds of problems. It's all human, fault, human mentality. And the human mind is limited. Human beings need guidance, right? And this is something that Muslims have their life, we've been blessed to be Muslim. And we've been blessed to learn this lesson. There's no more important lesson. That guidance is from Allah alone, our Creator, we cannot know about, you know, where we're going, where we're from, what is it? What is life all about? What's our purpose? The human mind can't just figure that out. And that's why when you look at a field like philosophy, the best, you know, quote, unquote,

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best minds, the secular minds, they don't have answers. They have been, they've been debating the same questions, since the ancient Greeks over 3000 years, still debating still debating these issues. So it's just oven. It's just speculation, as Allah says, in the Koran, all they do is speculate, right? without knowledge, okay, they have maybe a little bit of knowledge Allah has granted them. And they are so confused, because they just speculate. And when you say a lot, you simply when you're referring to the Creator, it's not like the creator of the Muslim is the creator who created the whole universe and everything in it. same God that Jesus, Abraham, Moses, all these

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messages that came out of there law law, sent them out of love, Muhammad, peace of blessings be upon them being Alaska final messenger. They all brought this guidance that you're talking about, this is a universal way of life for everybody. So nobody's excluded, of course. And then, when you look at Islam, and you really look at the wisdom, the hikma of Islam in depth, then these, this the superiority of it as a way of life reveals itself isn't a law by God's guidance. And then you can it's like, like, night and day, right? When you compare what Islam offers in terms of guidance. How should you be married? Right? What is the correct relationship between a man and a woman? What is

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the correct relationship between a father and his son, a father and his daughter? Right? What's the correct relationship between a community a member of communities? These are major questions that form the fabric of our lives? But where's the guidance? Can you open a book and go to library and open a secular book, an atheist book that will give you guidance on these issues? How to live your life? How to even forget about relations with other people? How about internally, right? How would you know something like jealousy has said, Okay, how would you know that that's something bad that that's something that will destroy you. Okay? You have certain secular philosophers that will maybe

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touch on this briefly. But the deep insights about something like hassad or hatred, or envy, or backbiting, Eva, everything is laid out all of this. You're not gonna find this in secular philosophy. This is all open the Quran, open the sun of the sun, peace be upon him. These are the things that guidance for life even in for your own self, your own heart. Yeah, you're not gonna find anywhere. Yeah. So before people were washing their hands before surgery, or McDonald's, we had that laid on Islam, we got people in not to offend nobody. But just the reality when you talk about this has me think you know, from the minute small things have got people in the White House who probably

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don't wash their rear end, you know what I mean? You know what I'm saying? So you from the smallest things are how to purify yourself, how to be clean, like from washing yourself after you go to the toilet, to how to worship the Creator, the heavens and earth, that victory over polytheism the victory as I had one of my guests he said to so eloquently, Islam is the victory of monotheism over polytheism. So how to worship your Creator from the minute things to the major things and everything in between what you mentioned, everything in between is there. I wanted to go ahead and get you heard of Joe Rogan. Yep. You've heard a louder Crowder. Yes, we've addressed some of it and our door

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is always open to Joe and louder Crowder and many of these other people who are out there who have been misinformed. Some maybe have some good intention to do it. They might be talking on some some, some good issues here and there. But when it

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comes to Islam. They've made some major blunders. Some of them have brought on many guests who who are full of, you know, just overtly lying and spreading false information about Muslims and Islam. There's actually a writer for the louder Crowder, this guy that we're going to talk about, like for us to analyze this kind of react to it. His name is Owen Benjamin. He was an actor comedian. He was on he's been on Joe Rogan's show. He's a friend of Joe Rogan. And they're still friends. He's he, he was a script writer for the louder Crowder guy. And he's pretty well known. And this is an individual who was again, on that same bandwagon of bashing Islam. But he has some interesting

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things to say now about Islam Muslim, so I thought it'd be interesting for us to kind of take a look, you've heard of them. I've heard of Benjamin by I don't know what he says about Islam, so I'm interested. Okay, so we'll start from there. And we'll we'll go ahead and, and hopefully send a good positive message to him. And many of his followers who've also kind of probably been victims of the hate machine. Yeah. Hope so adamant about not hating Muslims, because the hatred of Muslims allowed us to, to beg for our own enslavement. It's like, well, we need we need the Patriot Act rules. We can't find the bad terrorists. You think Muslims just hate Ariana Grande and the Boston Marathon?

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They use the media to drum up this hatred of Muslims that we would beg for own enslavement. You know, what do you think of the first thing he said some some points about our enslavement, you know, of making an enemy. Right? And then we end up enslaving ourselves because it is fake enemy. Right? I think that's a good analysis, you create a Boogeyman

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to drum up fear, and then people are more willing to accept your program. Right. So I mentioned the patriot act he mentions, I mean, there's so many things that you can just look at with that alone. But, I mean, we've lived through 911, I was, you know, in high school when that happened. And that was something that completely changed the course of American history in terms of domestic policy, because you had all of these new laws, surveillance, okay, the idea that every single phone call that you make every single text message, email, every communication is now being monitored, that has a really stifling effect. So why would the public agree to that violation of privacy? The only way

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that they accept it is because, oh, well, there's a bigger threat. If you don't accept this, you're going, there's gonna be another 911 there is gonna be all kinds of chaos. So you need you have to accept all our restrictions, all of this grabbing of power by the president george bush, later, Barack Obama, and you accept it because you're afraid for your life. So you're blackmailing people. You're holding the public hostage? It's a great point. Great point. Yeah. So when you really when you look at when you when someone is open minded enough, and they look at the facts on the ground, the reality you've had reminds me of a Professor Robert Pape, from the University of Chicago, and

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other academics like him terrorists experts, and they just blow this this myth out of the sky, you know that Islam is some kind of threat and people are based off Islam, they're doing these terrorist acts, he mentioned that Islam has nothing to do it. This is geopolitical. This has nothing to do with the religion of Islam, when you have these are non Muslims, saying that Muslims have been in the modern world, we've had all of these Muslim countries, what did suddenly a switch go off in 2001, that now they want to, you know, destroy America and destroy the West just because of hatred? You know, hating their freedoms? Makes no sense. Like, what? What about all of these generations

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decades of modernity, right? The modern world where you have these nation states, these Muslim countries have been broken up basically dividing and conquering the oma. And so only now, suddenly, there's this existential threat because of terrorism from people hiding in caves. It doesn't make sense. And I think as time goes on, more and more people are going to see how ridiculous it sounds. And hopefully, you know, in history books will show that the public was manipulated. And people were driven to make completely irrational decisions for themselves and for others in their treatment of Muslims and their consideration of Islam. Because of these stories, right? In Arabic, this loss,

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right, these are just stories. So it's unfortunate, but hamdulillah I'm glad that people like this. Owen Benjamin is speaking openly about it. Yeah. So if so a few of the elite can go ahead and profit off of these wars, make money and feed the war machine and then divide the people like what's been

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happen to him. It seems like he's waking he's woken up to this. Right, right. Yeah, I'll just continue on. I gotta Qur'an.

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me reading the crank, guys, just don't hold your breath on that, um, I have so much to learn about the Bible that

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my main thing is to help people not hate so many good hearted Muslims that are withstanding evil, and they are the type of people you you want to root for these scholarly, beautiful Muslim people. Don't let the media paint, you know, a fifth of the planet is people that deserve to be bombed as a sacrifice. Now, my pursuit of the Qur'an is very minimal. I'm just being completely I don't hold your breath on it. Now he said that twice is it looks like someone sent him a Quran I think that's all he International. Yeah, I would agree that's a good one to start with. Yeah, it's a good translation, good translation. Why would you if you look at the Quran as a potential we know, based

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on proof and evidence, and this is why you actually you didn't come into Islam blindly. I didn't. I wanted to myself, I put all the religions on the table. I you know, sincerely earnestly was searching for the truth. And Islam provided all the rational logical evidences would have believable message that it was indeed from the Creator of the heavens that are without a doubt. And I believe that anyone who's sincere and genuine, if they're seeking to know the truth, and they're asking their Creator alone without any intermediaries right now, putting a god next to God, not praying through Mohammed or Jesus, but praying directly to the Creator of the heavens and earth, God

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Almighty will guide them from your store. I think you've done the same thing. Right? You were searching for the truth.

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You your background, my background, my parents were also from, from Bosnia, Muslim, but they weren't practicing. Right. So I didn't want to just follow what my parents were upon, even though they weren't practicing. I wanted to make sure that this was tight. This was what it was, you know, this is the truth. So it seems like why are you limiting? When I hear him say, he says, don't hold your breath? Why not? If that if we're talking this is a look at it as a potential but from God, right? If someone has something addressed to you from saying it's from a relative, your mother, so you'd read that you'd read the thing, right? But this is addressed to all all mankind, this book, the

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crime? My question is why why would you? Why would you limit yourself? Why would you pick it up and read it? Some people know, right? They can just feel that if I get in,

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if I get into this, it's going to change my life. And I'm not ready for that change. Right? And if he didn't have respect, if he thought that oh, this is just another book. Yeah, I'll read it. Like this interesting. You know, just for my, you know, entertainment, I'll just read another book. I read all kinds of books. But he I can someone who goes out of his way to say, you know, don't hold your breath. I'm not gonna crack this. I'm not gonna pay it any attention. It's like he's afraid of something. And yeah, I you study psychology. I mean, you can you can kind of tell on these human patterns into somebody, I mean, this very basic human pattern. You don't even have to study

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psychology. He knows that. Okay, this is something weighty, this is something heavy. And if I'm going to start reading it and commit to reading it, I'm going to have to come to certain hard realizations about who I am. And some people are just not ready to take that important step that we all should take. Yeah, of knowing the truth and committing ourselves to the truth and letting the truth affect who we are. Yeah. This is a test of your sincerity now. Right? If you really love your Creator, God Almighty, Allah, if you really love the one who created you, this is a test now you're being tested. Right? your sincerity, what else would you say? Absolutely. No? How can you How can

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you what excuses Can you give? Yeah, if she wrote you that letter you'd be reading.

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Okay, let's go on. I'm a Christian. I've lifetimes torn about the Bible. Before I can. I can dive into that. But let me let me address that. See, that's another thing that people many people have, they say, because we've had experiences people say, Well, okay, I, there's so much more that I have to learn about Islam before I accept it. He talks about there's so much more that I have to learn about Christianity before I can come to to reading the Quran. And you spend a lifetime doing that before. I mean, if you look at what Islam really is, it's as articles of faith, the Pillars of Islam, the main message of Islam, to compare it to the main message of Christianity right there.

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From there, you should be able to make a decision and the rest of the time you're going to spend learning all these finer details and everything else that it involves, right. That's exactly what you said. It's sincerity, and not making excuses, illegitimate excuses. So if you want to make excuses for denying the truth, there's an endless number of things that you can say. But if you're sincere, then you look at something and it's clear night and day. And Christians are in a very good position as as of keytab people have the book, because their Bible does speak about the messenger does speak about the coming of the Prophet peace be upon him the Bible, the Bible. Yes. And this is

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something that other Muslim scholars have

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Talking about and written about in depth. So it's something that is in their books, okay? If you want to focus on the Bible, then how about these passages? How about these parts of the Bible that are speaking about a prophet who's going to come after Jesus peace be upon him? A prophet who's going to come and within oma? Okay, these are the things that you can read in the Bible. And they've been suppressed and they've been glossed over and ignored. So okay, go that route. And it'll lead back to Islam. That's that's profound if they do that. That's don't limit yourself, you know, do the homework but I think that if anybody goes and searches what you just said, that's a whole nother

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topic of itself, like Muhammad, peace, be upon it, Muhammad in the Bible, right? You could write a book, that's a whole book by itself, right? Look at it, objectively, look at it and see, you know, don't let anybody else think for you just look at it. Let's go continue on that. There's a lot of beauty there. And in those people's hearts, some of the most evil people on the planet are call themselves Muslim, but they're Muslim in name only. Because Muslims aren't allowed to kill you. It's a it's a sin. It's a sin to kill you. And there's like all these like, there is some

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ways to get around it if they're in a holy war and blah, blah, blah, two things.

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And again, we're setting he'll probably God willing, he'll get a chance, I'm pretty sure. inshallah, we say that, he'll watch this. inshallah, we want him to feel this good energy coming from us, we will want to send him a good message, and we commend him for because you've heard how we spoke before, the kind of, you know, Sanders, he's a, I've watched some of his stuff recently. And he is definitely brave and soft, talking about certain things. He's been demonetised from YouTube, and from YouTube, getting so much money a month. And he was willing to be demonetised by YouTube, because he was talking about certain subjects, and certain politically incorrect subjects. And so

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he's definitely has that kind of bravery for the truth and not worrying about the blame of the blamers. Right? Yeah. So hopefully, that sincerity will lead him and Allah will guide him to the truth and all of the things that I hear from conservative Christians, like him.

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Many of those values are within Islam, just the pure, unadulterated version of them are in Islam, and much more that any person with a sound heart,

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whether in America, whether in Russia, whether any part of the world can accept because of that core, truth and value within Islam. Have you ever heard this term? mazie? mussi? He's referring to Muslims as mozia. Yeah. Is it derogatory? No, I don't know. What have you ever? I think he's trying to be cute or something like, that's fine. Okay. All right. And then the other is, it's not like derogatory. Yeah. So then the other one, so the proper is a Muslim, and Muslim. 401, if you didn't know is simply one like Jesus, like Moses, Abraham, one who has chosen freely to submit to the Creator of the heavens and earth. And this is how you get peace. By connecting with your Lord, the

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one who created you, that's what a Muslim is. Now, he turned he threw around us a big misconception. He said, The Holy War, there's no such thing in Islam as holy wars there. You hear that? You hear this term, they try to put Jihad equals holy war. What do you got to say about that?

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This is a misconception, okay, because holy war

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is not the correct translation of jihad. But jihad is something Islam is not a pacifist religion. Okay. And how can pacifism be true? Because even in the most minimal case, okay, people understand that you require a defense. Okay. And sometimes you require offense. Okay. And this is something that everyone accepts, okay, anyone who is living in a country, like look at the United States of America, how much praise is given to the military, you know, support our troops, defend our troops, these people are sacrificing their lives for the interests and the benefit of the nation. Right. And so when it comes to the military, there's always the offensive and then defensive capacities, right?

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Okay. So if you accept the idea of dying for your country, why can't you accept the idea of dying for your Lord for your Creator? And that's what jihad is, and Christians of all people need to recognize the importance and the beauty of this if you believe in a doctrine, that God this is what they claim that God sacrificed himself and his body for the sake of humanity. Okay, so this idea of sacrificing your body is a, it's a core part of your theology. Okay, so how can you have a problem with jihad, sacrificing your body, for the sake of God for a higher purpose?

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For the purpose of spreading the truth, the highest purpose that anyone can have. And so a Christian should have no problem with the concept of jihad Americans, anyone who's living in a nation state where they have the concept of the military, and how many Americans supported the illegal and unjust war in an invasion of Iraq. Right. And Afghanistan. They supported that on the basis that is justified because we are spreading freedom and democracy and justice. Right. That was offensive. Afghanistan, as was proven had nothing to do with any attack on the United States. Right? iraq didn't have anything to do with 911. But they were attacked offensively. Okay. And I can say it was

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illegal invasion. But Americans supported that on the basis of this principle spreading goodness right. And that's what Muslims believe in as well. We spread goodness Yeah. And and in certain contexts and certain situations. Today, we're not in a position for anything like that. Because there's no you know, unified oma, there's no, left. There's no caliphate. There's no organized political Muslim body, to be engaged in jihad in this way. But if we look at the past, if we look at the Prophet peace be upon him, like, I'm not an apologist, right, if you look at the history of the Prophet peace be upon him and his companions, Islam did spread through military excursions. But it's

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wrong to say that Islam spread by the sword, because that's not literally true. No one Muslims are not allowed to go to Christians, and or Jews and hold a sword to their neck and say, or a gun to their head, convert, otherwise, I'll kill you that is completely contrary to Islam. And all scholars are agreed on this. But the history shows that the Prophet peace be upon him. And after the Prophet peace be upon him, you had great companions, who were spreading Islam to like Persia. So my parents are Persian, I'm Persian. And Islam was spread to Iran to Persia, because of holiday been really the great Sahabi and I named my own son after holiday movie because of my love for this hobby, this

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Companion of the Prophet peace be upon him. And Islam was spread militarily, in the sense that that Empire was conquered. Okay. But it's what is the intention here is to spread truth, it is to spread justice, it is to spread goodness, right. And that's something that people accept everyone accepts that there's only a difference between Okay, well, what is goodness? What is truth? And then we can have a conversation about that. And we'll be happy to show that Islam is the truth. And we can have that conversation. Yeah. So you have that cleared up there that Jihad does not equal holy war, I believe that this is actually a Christian term holy war. This is not the crusades, the Crusades.

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That's number one. So Jihad to struggle and strive, then you have also what you had talked about, in this aspect, where you had for instance, if you study history, you had Spain, for instance, you had two fractions of Christians fighting each other, and one is oppressing the other. And then you have these Christians who are opening the doors calling the Muslims to come in to help it could we can use this as one example right? Of A jihad. So then they came in, but they didn't come in now massacring everyone like, like you had Kim was the Spanish Inquisition where they were just just everybody by the sword convert or die. You had once they were in you had Islam because of Islam. I

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mean, obviously, they came in, there was some fighting, but at the end, you know, people were being oppressed. Now Islam comes in just as a slap establish, and you can have peace without the justice. And now people were freely accepting the Muslims do we? It's hard to imagine because there are so many connotations and stereotypes about what does it mean to have like a conquest? Yeah, right. But in those you say, an opening, where they opened up, yeah, they open and it's basically new management. It's new management, but doesn't mean you know, we're going to go door to door like this is Nazi Germany. Yeah. And we're going to put you in camps like that people in the prior to the

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nation state in the modern period, you have nation states, but prior to that you had governorships. And people were used to these changes in management, right. It's just a difference of who you're paying your taxes to. And then there are certain restrictions that will apply depending on who's in charge, but that was something that was normal and accepted. But the thing is that

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when you have the opening of Egypt or you have the opening of persons

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Russia or North Africa or Spain, it wasn't this bloody massacre. It's from the true perspective, the spreading of truth. And then within those lands that people would convert after seeing the benefits that Islam is bringing to their land, okay, we've just been conquered. This is what happened in Persia. Okay, we've just been conquered by these Arabs. And we have a natural aversion because of racism to Arabs. This is the Persian Empire. But then after a generation or two, we see Wow, Islam is is has prohibited fornication. Islam has prohibited adultery. Islam has prohibited incest, which was a big practice with the Zoroastrians. Prior to Islam. Islam is bringing peace, Islam is bringing

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family cohesion, Islam is bringing a strong community that is oriented toward God, towards loving and worshiping God, we're experiencing all of these benefits in terms of our material in terms of our character, in terms of justice, Islam comes in prohibits usury interest, right? Something that is such an evil, social evil that oppresses Islam is coming and abolishing it, you know, the Quran is abolishing, so then this, wow, this is the truth like this, compared what we have now under new management with what we had before, okay, then this is how the entire that entire region became Muslim. And some of the greatest scholars of Islam, Sunni Islam, were coming from

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Iran from Persia. And so that's something that I consider a part of my heritage. But this happened all across the Middle East, North Africa. And there's nothing that as Muslims, we should be ashamed of that. In fact, we have to be proud of that history in that heritage. Yeah, moving on to the next, but just reiterating this point like that many people, for those that know. But for those that don't know, you had those clear guidelines, even when the opening offensive, or whatever battles were taking place before the Geneva Convention, you had the example of the prophet SAW some who was sent as a mercy to mankind where there was a clear if you're going to engage in Battlefield in battle,

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the restrictions again, killing innocent women, children, monks in their places of worship, or

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harming people who are who are not engaged in the battles, these kind of things. This was unknown at that time. I mean, it was because people think like Mongols coming in everybody's dying, pregnant woman, every rape and all that this is something that antithesis of Islam to see those rules of engagement, so clearly laid out even before the Geneva Convention. Right. It's something that is contrary to Islamic principles, as you mentioned, to just go and massacre it's also contrary to the the philosophy of Islam at a very deep level. Let me explain why. Because so many of the conflicts in history, the vast majority are on the basis of ethnic conflict, right? You have the Mongols who

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invaded, and they were an ethnicity, and they were massacring, you know, non Mongols, right? You have Han Chinese, you have different African tribes, all of this ethnic conflict. In Europe, the history of all of the wars, many of the wars were fought based on the base of ethnicity, more than religion. But Islam is not an ethnicity. Islam is a Deen, right? It's a religion, and people can convert to the religion. And so actually, from a material point of view, even if you take out a conception of God and religion out of it, even from a purely materialistic standpoint, it would be contrary to the logic of Muslims to kill non Muslims. Why? Because you want them to convert

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eventually, and then they're part of your army. They're part of your empire. And so your empire is growing, right? And you're, you're getting that kind of growth in numbers, which is so important in pre modern times. Because whoever has the biggest army is going to win, right is going to win the battle. And and mostly, it's a numbers game. So you want as many people as possible to become Muslim, it doesn't matter if you're black, white, whatever race, right, whatever ethnicity, you're coming in. So it's contrary to the flock. But if you have an ethnic based philosophy, that we have a certain race, white, black, Asian, whatever, then no, we have to kill the non whites because they

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might start reproducing. And then their armies got if we like, beat them once, and we don't massacre them all. Then they're going to start having kids, they're going to have babies, then their armies gonna grow, their ethnicity is going to grow and then they're gonna take their revenge. So from an ethnic basis, we know we have to

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massacre as many as we can. And this is what you saw, we have to rape as many as we can. This is what you've seen in the in the greatest genocide after world war two in Bosnia, where my family's from this is what was happening nationalistic wars, things like this. Yeah, this is the Serbs. Yeah, yes. All right, let's continue on. And that's been exploited by some pretty monstrous people. But it doesn't have the same language as the Talmud as far as like,

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just the embracing of the wickedness, human beings can take anything and make it wicked. It's the terms and conditions, you know, and Islam doesn't have the rage in it that you're told it does. And if you think it does, you will be potentially tricked again into another endless war with people you've never known as a Muslim, do you want to hurt me? If not cooperate with each other? verify? Then trust? Yeah, there's a ton of Muslims that want to chop your head off. There's a bunch of Muslims that think you are the embodiment of Satan. I'm not speaking for all Muslims. But Islam says that you can't just kill people you're not allowed to. And they've taken a lot of shifts from the

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Jewish media man, the Jews hate them. One of the reasons I even started looking at mozzies is because of how much ben shapiro hates them. Anyone ben shapiro hates that much. There has to be something there. That's good.

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So I'm wondering where he's getting this information, but I guess he explained it because I was wondering where where's he getting this interest in Muslims from? And then he said, it's like it Ben Shapiro, someone so much. So Mashallah, you know, guidance comes from many different directions. So it's something to definitely reflect on why do certain people and certain groups that he's mentioning hate Muslims so much, and he mentioned the Talmud, I think, I haven't listened to him. But I mean, if you look at what the Talmud which is one of the holy books of Jews, and their philosophy about life,

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it's very different. And it just kind of offends actually, the, you know, anyone who have a sound fitrah, what is said in the Talmud, I'll give you an example.

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on the Sabbath is allowed for a Jew to help a non Jew, when it comes, if a non Jew is, for example, injured or sick, can the Jew on the Sabbath call the ambulance to come and pick him up and take him to the hospital. So secular Jews will have no problem. Of course, someone is dying, it's a non Jew. But we have to help others out Muslim will say the same thing. There's nothing in Islam that prevents Muslims from helping non Muslims in that kind of situation. But the Orthodox and the ultra Orthodox Jews going based on their books on the such as the Talmud, this is violating the Sabbath to help a non Jew in that time of need, if it's on the Sabbath. So things like this, I'm, I'm sure Owen

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Benjamin and others have read into and studied Judaism, we have to get out of this mindset that all religions are the same. And all religions are, you know, Judaism is monotheistic, because that's actually not true. Judaism is not a monotheistic faith. And if you actually look at the books of Jewish theology, this becomes clear. There's an emphasis on orthopraxy, practice ritual, and then ask a Jewish person, Orthodox Jew, well, what happens after we die? Is there a heaven? Is there hell? Is there something that somewhere that people go after they die? And they'll say, well, we don't know. We don't know, when we don't speculate about them. So their theology actually is open to

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Kabbalah, for example, where you have worship of other deities, sacrificing to other deities, and there and and so you find this kind of stuff in medieval Judaism and more modern Judaism as well. And that's why Jews, the majority, don't practice Judaism are not orthodox, because they've been repelled by their own religion. Because of these kinds of aspects. I'm not trying to like,

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characterize all Jews as the same. But if we look at the core of the religion, actually look at the books, then that's when the the true essence of the religion comes out, and you'll find that it's not monotheistic. It has this kind of extreme prejudice, that, you know, others can tell like, well, this is way too far like someone is dying and you're not going to call the ambulance because it's against the Sabbath and it's a non Jew.

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So this is the same kind of things that you find and it repulses people.

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Now many people that's one one misconception people have is that Islam teaches us to hate Jews. But if we look at the history, if Muslims hated Jews, then you would you wouldn't have so many Jews who sought refuge in Albania, Bosnia, in Muslim lands when Christians the Crusaders were killing them because they killed their Lord. You know, Jesus Christ. All right. So there's a professor, historian academic. He wrote a great essays called how Islam Dr. David Ornstein I believe his name is he said, The title is Islam save the jury. How Islam saved the jury, the Jewish people, right. So, like I said, most Jews are not following Orthodox Judaism. Most Jews don't know what's in the Talmud. The

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Talmud says that Jesus Christ peace be upon him is in hell boiling in a vat of excrement. This is in the tama. Yes. And so this is what they believe about Jesus Christ, the Messiah. Now, can you say that because they have the wrong understanding of the Messiah, the term they have the Christian understanding that when they turn when they when you say, Jesus, now they think of the Christian version of Jesus? They don't know they are referring to the person, the person Yeah, they referring to the person not talking about the idol? Yeah, that Christians have created in the Trinity. They're talking about the person, the person, the person of Jesus, yes, yes. But most of them have the the

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view of Jesus, the Christian view of Jesus, the majority. But then the last one talks about in the Quran that they know, the messenger, like they know has their own child, right? Yeah. So they rejected, they knew that he was the Messiah, and they rejected him, just like they knew that the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him was the final messenger. And they rejected Yeah. Okay, so this is, you know, very bad stuff. And again, it's just Orthodox Jews that will even know about these details. The majority of Jews are secular, and they're not practicing their faith.

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And even even in the Koran. So that's what I'm thinking more the second, the ones who are not practicing this with it, the the modern day view they have about, about Jesus would come from the Christian view. But the people who study who studied these texts deeper, they know they're been more exposed to the Muslim, the proper view of Jesus being a messenger and not being a literal Son of God or a god, you get to see the difference. You mean Jews? Know, where you have the Christians, they don't believe, because the Jews are waiting for Messiah to come, right? The Christians take Jesus as a god and raise him up to a status of three and a trinity. Muslims, we accept him as the Messiah who

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came, but not but as a mighty messenger, like Abraham, Moses and all the other messenger but not as a god or little son of God. Right. So, I mean, when it comes to what you're saying before that Muslims are not supposed to kill our harm, yeah, because they're protected people even obviously, in our times, in this situation with theirs. In the West, Muslims don't have any authority to

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Muslims don't have any authority over any group. But even in the past and the time of the Prophet peace be upon him and the Caleb's

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Jews were protected people love them. Yeah, right. And so this is something that despite but we're just talking about religious beliefs, do they actually believe what isn't in their texts? Yeah. Amen. The Quran Allah says that they worship the you know, they call Hosea the Son of God. Yeah, right. And they worship Him. This is part of Schick. Right? So we have to, I'm bringing this up because a lot of people will say that, you know, there are Abrahamic faiths Islam, Judaism, Christianity, and reality. The only truly Abrahamic faith is Islam. Because we're the only faith that follows what Abraham peace be upon him has been spreading and was about pure hate pure

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monotheism, worship of God, but that message has been corrupted. And so how can we consider even why the Koran in the Quran Allah says that Abraham was not a Jew. He was not a Christian. He was a Hanif, he was a Muslim. And and so we have to be aware of this. But from $1 perspective, it's a very powerful thing to say that Islam is the only monotheistic religion. Islam is the only religion that recognizes one creator, one transcendent creator, that is all merciful, that all knowing all loving, and other religions don't have that concept. Yeah, that it's a misconception to say that other religions are monotheistic because they're not the main thing. So Dean, the way of life that we

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live.

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doesn't call us to hate the particular group of people because they're a particular group of people. The door of mercy from of Islam is open for everybody. That's true. Yeah, the door of mercy. So what do we mean by hate? Okay? If we don't hate a person in this life to such an extent that we can never love them later, right? Because people can change if someone is truly a vile person and truly, you know, hates God. It hates all goodness, blast themes God worship is worships the lowest of idols. Yeah, we we don't love that person. We may even hate them. That's, I think that's fine. Okay, we we should hate Cofer. We should hate the action, action action. Yeah. And then the person who's engaged

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in it like, I mean, are we going to say that we love everyone unconditionally? No, you can't say unconditionally? No, no. But you had like, for example, I will tell it right. So you had the Prophet so Sam's uncle, who's he died on worshipping idols right, right ancestors, but the prophecy was loved his his uncle, right? Or about a Buddha or Oh, Joe. Now that's different story. That's a good example. So now that's family, but now look good. We hate Abuja. You can hate him. But yeah, that's Yeah, I'm only balanced. That's the balance. That's the beauty of Islam. So I like what you said that that where you have that balance that now you don't hate someone too extreme, because at any

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time, someone can lead paganism, they can leave the worship of human beings money to dollars, materialism, and they can turn because the door of mercy to the Creator is always open. Right? Right. You can once a person accepts the truth and starts manifesting that, then it's nothing but love. Right? Well, one idea that comes to mind we'll move on we is in the Quran, that Trumps because a lot of times people will throw out things out of context, is chapter 16, verse eight of the crime. I believe that's it where God Almighty saying that a law God, the Creator, a law does not forbid you from dealing justly, and being kind with those who have not fought you and persecuted you because of

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your deen your religion are trying to drive you out of your homes. Yeah, that's a very amazing principle. Right, that we treat people justly. We treat people well, even when we don't share the same faith. But this is not something that is found in all religions. Yeah. Right. And you have that kind of tribalism also be

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in other faiths. And so I think I like to emphasize these differences. Yeah. This is my style of Dawa because I want to show people that this is distinct, though, what Islam calls to is distinct from everything else. Because if we constantly are portraying Islam as equal equal equivalent, the same you know, this, it's all good, you know, we all believe in the same stuff. Then people will say, Okay, well, I can choose the A or B I can choose Islam or I can choose like, you know, everything else I've been following. I'll just do whatever is most familiar with to me and convenient for me. Like, though, like the example people give, we're all like spokes on a wheel all

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headed to the same direction, right. But Islam, I mean, it makes sense that, look, the Christian comes to me, and I had a born again, Christian friend, we'd go back and forth and I respected the fact that he told me he was he legitimately fear for me and, and I, and we got the elephant out of the room and he said, Look, if you don't believe Jesus is your Lord and Savior, he died for your sins, you're going to hellfire. So thank you very much, we got that. But Islam says the same thing. I mean, that if you don't submit your will to the cradle the heavens and earth. And there's a clear verse in the ayah. In the Quran, where Allah was making it clear the only Deen way of life

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acceptable in front of the Creator is submission to His will. That's it, and then the other Iommi yoba took a guide on Islam and in May for fillet you Kabbalah women who are Warfield Aphrodite Milhouse it in that if anyone chooses any other Dean way of life, other than submission and surrender to the Creator, the heavens and earth, one word Islam, it won't be accepted. And in the Hereafter, you're going to be amongst the losers. It's clear. So people think that they own themselves. They feel entitled, like, I'm my own person.

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When the reality is no, we are owned by our Creator, our Creator has created us do we as a as an acquaintance or a tour? Did they create themselves? Or did they come from nothing? Right? Or did they come from nothing? Or were they themselves the Creator, right? Allah says in the Quran, so we didn't create ourselves. And we didn't come from nothing. That makes no sense. So who created us who put us here in this world? So whoever has done that owns us, right? So we have no rights to ourselves. Okay. That's why we have to submit that's why we have to accept guidance and recognize that otherwise, I mean, there are consequences. Yeah, right. You gotta obey the boss at work. I

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mean, what about you creators, now Burger King have your own way.

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Islam is not good and all caps will

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You're now gone because you did not follow the all caps rule. And you're being a troll. Yeah, it's not Christianity. Okay, I understand that there's I just read you a part of the Bible it says, basically, if you preach things outside of Christianity, it's not good. Okay? The differences are less extreme than some churches, having a female at the pulpit promoting Gay Pride entering into usury, all this stuff. Yeah, you can read the Quran in a weekend fantastic book. I highly doubt I could read the Quran in a weekend guys, not kill Muslims, but the Quranic cause for the entire world is submit or die.

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I mean, the Bible says that too. It's it's not submitter diets that God kills you right? Or did the Muslims get to get no foreign doesn't say that? What is he talking about? Like this? submit or die? Like I said, it has nothing, no basis in any part of Islam. And even in Islamic history, show me like, Where was this principle enacted? Where was this principle enacted? Like, we're not trying to be apologists, right? I'm the farthest person from being someone who apologizes for Islam as a hopefully you've gotten that sentence. If you look at the history of the Prophet peace be upon him, and the companions of the Sahaba, the whole of Russia and the rightly guided caliphs. They were not

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massacring people getting them to submit otherwise, you're going to die, submit or die. So this is just a myth. And it makes no sense. Yeah, but there are consequences in the hereafter we are I mean, obviously the deal just like the idea that, that we, I brought up, dealing fairly justly being kind of people this is part of our Deen about Islam, but at the same time, going off what he was saying, submit or die, but at the end, if you choose to follow your lust, your passions desires, we're super human being next to God, you know, worship, an idol worship, saints worship, you know, setting up a partner next to God. At the end, there's a paradise in the Hellfire, if you choose and you get a

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clear if the message comes to you, I know this authentic Hadith of the Prophet SAW some peace of blessings be upon him said that whoever hears of me, I'm paraphrasing Hadeeth you know, Jew, Christian, whoever pagan rejects me, right? That person will suffer the consequences of the next life. Now we can say Hold on, what did you hear about him? Is that a clear understanding that he is indeed the last final messenger or you're getting your information from from louder Crowder or some of these other hate provocateurs? Yeah, I mean, we're living in an environment where, unfortunately, it's a very unique time in history, where religion has been made to seem like such a backwards thing

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just across the board. Like why would you even want to be a religious person? Like why would you even want to call yourself a Muslim Christian or Jew? Unfortunately, that's really the fastest growing orientation, ideological orientation. People are becoming what's called nones. Right? What does that nons non non affiliated? Yeah, I believe in God as a concept, but I'm just, I'm just spiritual. This is actually the fastest growing

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demographic, yeah, in the West. And so when you have this kind of anti religion, anti tradition, environment, people are apathetic. They don't want to Okay, you hear about Muhammad? Well, as long as I'm, why aren't you reading them about them? Why don't you What is his life about what is his teaching about? Like, he's just saying it himself Oh, and Benjamin that I don't have time to read the Quran, I won't even approach it and we analyze that. But you have all this apathy that is preventing people from actually exploring and learning whereas in the past, they want to be like this. You have how many major religions you have a religion that has dominating in terms of

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population, one fourth of the planet, and you don't want to know the basics of what they believe. You don't want to know the basics of what they are following. So this is unheard of like in our period. Yeah, okay, you have Muhammad peace be upon him. All religions are basically the same everything is, you know, who cares? there's not gonna be a very, it's not gonna move the needle in my life, to follow the teachings of this ancient book, quote, unquote, you use pretty much making up your own religion. So you become you're becoming your own God, in a sense, yeah, you're following your whims and desires as mediated by dominant culture. People are leaving themselves so vulnerable

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to being influenced by the media, by the government by these corporations. We were talking about this earlier about how people can be manipulated into eating fast food that's going to kill them that's going to cause cancer that's going to cause obesity that's going to cause heart disease. Why would a person make a decision that's so contrary to his own interests, his health, his his life?

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It's because he's manipulated, it's he's been. Instead, that's what happens when there's no guidance. When you don't have that anchor holding you down to something, then you just move with the tides. And it's easy for someone to come and just drag you in their direction to manipulate you. But when you have Dean, when you have truth, when you have that connection to God, that's your anchor, you're not going to be influenced, you're going to know that this is you're taking me in the wrong direction. And I don't care if all of society, I don't care if all the culture of the whole world is going in a certain direction, the tide is pulling them in that way, I'm anchored. I have my, you

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know, my star, my North Star that's guiding me to the right path. So almost nothing. I mean, a lot of this stuff we're discussing is just is it goes with the fitrah the common sense and someone like Owen, Benjamin, if he watches this God when he does, it just connects I mean, but the thing is now is like, okay, am I gonna, like stick to what my parents, you know, my culture what I was brought up upon? Or am I really, am I sincere? And I'm gonna do a God Almighty wants me to do that's like, like, Am I gonna everyone has to make that decision decision. It doesn't matter if you're Muslim or non Muslim. Everyone comes to that point in their life. Am I going to choose my own desires, what I

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want? Or am I going to choose what God wants everyone has to face. So hopefully, God willing, this can be of some benefit to him. And let's continue on. I probably should read the grant. But from what I know from people I do trust, he had a shift there. Don't hold your breath. But nice is there. Islam is not an iteration of Judaism. That isn't true. You're lying. part you read said that Jesus was set. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve, disbelieve, so strike them upon the next and strike them from every fingertip. Don't know what context of war. Yeah, that's great.

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So go and read the

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text versus real life friends. One comment here, right, please. Okay, this is Miss. I mean, they quoted they don't say that, that is the verse before it is read. And it's clearly the context of war. But there is an idea here that is important, about fear, fear of Islam. And we talked about it earlier, when he said that, if you realize that something is a truth, the truth can be scary. Sometimes, the truth can cause fear, it can make you shudder. It can make you Why, why? Because that's the beauty and the, the grand nature of truth as it comes and, and hits you in the heart. Right. And this is something where a lot of people experience it. And sometimes, you know, we hear

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about and hope, you know, may Allah allow us to experience it when you are prostrating to your Lord, or you are just reflecting you're looking at the sky, or you're looking at the sunset, and then suddenly, something hits you and you start crying. Why? Because something is something is affecting you. That's the truth. Right? That's you that fifth row that we all have, that we're all born with, that we have been created. And Allah has asked asked us before we were born, am I not sure, Lord? Although Bella, yes, indeed we are. You are our Lord, that feeling that everyone every human being has. And so that can be a very scary and indeed, terrifying thing. And so Islam offers is very

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clear, Islam offers the truth. But that can have big consequences for you as an individual, and that can be a scary, scary thing, and those who hate the truth, let's be real. Do we believe in a belief in Satan, we believe and Christians believe in demons and the devil. There are people and creations that hate the truth, right? Even people who hate the truth, and those people are afraid of the truth. They're afraid of Islam. They're the enemies of the truth in Islam, and so Islam and the Prophet peace be upon them strike terror in the hearts of those who hate the truth. And I mean, this is not something that we should water down or shy away from. Yeah, Islam can be a terrifying thing

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to those who hate the truth to those who are evil to those who don't want to change. Yeah, but this particular and many of the, the verses in the Quran, what he can do what he should do, he should read the Quran. And if there he comes to something but these these haters out there, just throw random verses out there. Read the before, read the after read the context. It's a very simple formula. It's going to be difficult. I'll be really honest and really real because we are in and this is what my research focuses on in my writing in my teaching, we're in a context that I'll characterize as a secular context, okay, the idea of God has been so distorted the idea of tradition

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and religion has been so distorted and other values have been imposed on people in the world today.

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And so if you are been you've been indoctrinated, and then you open a book, like the Koran is, much of it is going to offend. And it's going because you've been brainwashed. You've been brainwashed, so you need to detox, if you can, okay for for certain verses, obviously, the core message is so powerful that anyone at any time, no matter the level of brainwashing can recognize the truth, but other things, okay. Like, for example, a law says that God says that men can have more than one wife, okay, women cannot have more than one husband. So if you've been indoctrinated with a certain modern ideology, that is going to be very offensive. I mean, this this went on for for hundreds of

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years, for sure. This was Yeah, so Why didn't anyone else find a problem is because with this non Muslims as well, no one had a problem with the idea that men can have multiple wives. I mean, some Christians did. Some Orthodox Christians did in Europe, this was one of the main things that they attack, but was based on a field of theology, not on the basis of ethics, like, oh, a good person would never have more than one wife. Anyway, that's, that's a separate discussion. There's a lot of details there. But the question is, today, people are objecting to these different verses of the Quran on the basis of indoctrination, philosophical ideological indoctrination. Yeah. And so that's

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a reality that no matter how much context you're reading,

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you're still going to have this problem unless you address the ideology. And that's what I tried to do. I tried to attack the ideology that whatever is telling you that you know, it's immoral, unethical for a man to have more than one life. And the Prophet peace be upon him had more than one wife that what is affecting you is wrong, not Islam. That's wrong. So you can compare it like if you have two glasses of water, one is a pure water, and the other one is just full of chemicals. Toxins is just filthy. You've been drinking the filthy water. If you start drinking the pure good water you might throw up at first. Yeah, you stop bad tastes bad. But do you stop drinking the good water? The

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pure water? No, no, you got to get used to you got to keep you got to do the detox. Right detox. So this is an example that you can relate to this truth that comes to you. Exactly, exactly. I mean, all of the on top topic of jihad, on the topic of women's rights, on the topic of pluralism versus you know, religious minorities, all these issues, there's been such

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an indoctrination and toxic ideas that you have to get beyond otherwise, you're going to have a lot of problems with a lot of aspects of Islam. But we have to be careful. We can't just apologize. We can't distort the teachings of Islam to make it more palatable to people because then what are they ending up with? They're ending up with a distorted version of Islam. That's not true Islam, you're just you. You've only accepted a whitewashed version of Islam. But there is not there is nothing if you look at Islam properly, holistically, that it oppresses human beings, human beings. There's nothing in there, you might not understand it properly. But Islam is there to bring contentment,

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peace, justice, all of the things that make us society round beautifully. There's nothing in there that's bringing harm to yourself or society. Right. But how will you recognize that? How will you recognize it? We got to go to the detox. You have to go to detox. But yeah, you have to, to a certain extent, like recognize that the human mind is limited. Yeah. Right. And so when it comes to the muscle, like the main core of tawheed, when it comes to worshiping your Creator alone, not associating partners with him, that one everyone understand Yeah, can accept and it makes perfect logical sense. But some of the the food or the branch issues, okay, then those require more

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explanation require more detail. here's, here's a true story. Just today, and I think this can connect with this real story. He said that he's going through a divorce, and his wife left him. And then he opened up and said that she ended up cheating on him. And he was actually hiring a trainer to train his wife. Now, right away, I wanted to cry almost man, I was like, this is just like, but I started to think I feel really bad for him. I started to think look at the beauty of the dean like relations between opposite genders. You know, the prophet SAW Some said, Man and woman is not alone. But Shakedown is a third, that just so like opposite to the culture today. It's just like, if you

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take these precautionary steps, that's emerged, that would have been a mercy to potentially saving you and your family. But people don't have this. Yeah, they don't have it like

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this is something that your whole it's not just your life.

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That's affected by infidelity and the breakup of your family. It's not just you and your family, it's the whole society is affected by this, the whole a whole nation, whole civilization can be brought down. And you have historians, non Muslim historians who have written about this, about how when the the values in society are corrupted and you see more sexual deviance, and people are falling into certain kinds of sexual practices, and there's no stable idea of marriage, people are falling, like divorcing left and right, then civilization collapses. And you have someone like Edward Gibbon, who is a Christian historian, European historian who talks about the rise and fall of

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civilization. And this is his basic sociological theory, that these small things that happen on the micro level where it's just a question of, are you following your desires affects everyone. And so when you look at the guidelines within Islam, that you won't find in any other religion, on gender relations, the hijab, when it comes to even going to some of the things that the West really likes to hate, like when it comes to punishments, Whoa, dude, for those who have committed adultery, Zina, okay, those are really, really important, because they are such a huge deterrent to that kind of behavior. If you know that you're practicing this kind of sexual behavior outside the bonds of

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marriage, you're going to face a criminal charge and punishment. You know, given that there's an investigation and charges are broad, and you're judged in a fair trial by the body, and you can be punished, then you're going to avoid that behavior. And you have a society that is based on that kind of value that's uphold, upheld by the authorities by the law. How much more stable is that society going to be how much more happy families are going to be look at the children who are born out of wedlock. This is non Muslim, academic scientific, saying the chances of a child who is born to a single mother raised in a single mother household is far more likely to do drugs, far more

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likely to fall into crime far more likely to drop out of school, far more likely to cause all kinds of social problems statistically, right. Look at Mass shooters, many of them, okay, are depressed, they're on prescription pills, and they're for depression, and they're from broken families. Okay, so this is a big deal like this kind of sexual practice. So look how Islam just cuts it from the root from the root from the root. And so it's not a victimless crime. This is what some of the secularists and atheists say, oh, who, who cares? Like if two people love each other, and they decide to do this kind of behavior. It's a victimless crime. They're just doing it in private blah,

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blah, blah, blah, blah, all of this propaganda, the reality recognized by non Muslims, and in the, in the core of the religion and in the Koran, and the Sharia is that this is something that affects everyone. And it has to be cut at the root.

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Let's continue on, and the distortion of the media, whether it's on your phone, or the TV screen, or the movie, the mazie is is always blowing everybody up and chopping off heads and all that. And then you start realizing kids are trans. You know, I don't like that Islam isn't the Bible. That's a sin. You know, my faith says that that is not good. But when you look at a group of people that that are we just

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mentioned common to Islam isn't the Bible because if you read it, just look at the Lord's Prayer. I mean, look, Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name, thy kingdom come, thy will be done. This is Islam, all the prophets, they did Islam, right.

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are having families that are not taking loans that are not embracing sodomy. You can't say that's from Satan, as your female pastor is telling everybody to go buck each other. How is that? Does that make sense in your twisted mind? Mohammed said Satan tricked him into writing the Quran? I don't believe that's true. I don't want to talk about any more because I'm not an expert on it. Um, let's let's cover that this is a common our This is a common attack that they attack with this one about no hold on IP. Satanic Verses. Yes. called How do you like to address that? So I did a video on this very recently, actually. So this is what has been claimed that orientalist really emphasize this,

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there are some narrations that the Prophet peace be upon him was reciting surah of the Quran, in front of the orangish in front of the polytheists and Muslims. And it was just a very powerful recitation. And then within that recitation, the

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blease Satan threw out some verses, okay that he made up that Oh, we're going to bow down and praise certain idols. And then the prophet SAW some allegedly recited that recitation because he thought was from gibreel, from the Archangel Gabriel, peace be upon him. So this is the claim narration,

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it is found within our tradition, but the vast majority of scholars said that this was fabricated. It is not, this is not something that actually took place, the vast majority of scholars say this fabricated, fabricate, but I want to say a little bit more about this, because there are some scholars who said that it did happen. And this is something that actually did take place. And there is an AI of the Koran that refers to it. That refers to the fact that we have not sent any messenger except that Satan has thrown in some falsehood into their recitation. And so on the basis of this ayah. Some scholars, most notably, Ibn taymiyyah,

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said that this is actually an authentic event that happened but had been Tamia makes a brilliant, brilliant argument. And he says that the fact that this happened, according to him, and that this nice narration is authentic, according to him, show actually gives us more credence in the Prophet peace be upon being a truthful messenger, even even though like this happened, why, how does that makes sense? Because it's kind of contradictory, or it seems kind of counterintuitive. Why would we trust the Prophet peace be upon him more and revelation more if this kind of mistake that the Prophet immediately corrected right after reciting those wrong verses from a police, allegedly, then

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he corrected it and had the correct recitation gibreel came and corrected him. And the way that I explain it is that with my kids, right, I have four boys. And they often will get into fights, and they're rowdy, and they're jumping around, and then suddenly, they're young. So there'll be a cry of pain and, you know, screaming, and then I'll go as a parent and say, Well, what happened? Who hit Who? Right? Who's the guilty party here? And then one of my sons will always say without fail that Oh, Mohamed hit me. Mohammed II always say the same thing. Right. But then my other son will sometimes admit, he'll say, Well, no, I made a mistake, that my bed right, it was my fault. And I

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made a mistake here, I'm sorry. And so sometimes he'll say, he'll, he'll blame himself, you'll admit that there's a mistake. So because of this, I trust him more. Okay, because he admits his mistake. Whereas the other one is always saying the same story, no matter what. And I know that sometimes he's the one who would clearly like when the other kid has like a red mark on his face, and he's not the one who threw the slop. So this is how, you know, even Tamia explained to this, how I understand it that if it's true, I'm not saying that this is authentic narration or not. But even if we can see then say, okay, fine, this is authentic. It actually gives more credence, more credibility to the

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Prophet peace be upon him, because he's admitted that this was a mistake, and he corrected so you can go either way, the what you said the consensus, a majority of scholar status is fabricated. Yeah, I believe this is found in somebody. This is in the history book where somebody, you know, narrates so many so many things, regardless of their veracity? Yeah, so he has fabricated things weak, all levels, that that's the nature is not because color is bad, or he's trying to confuse Muslims. That's just that was the nature of the work as an encyclopedic kind of reference not to be taken as Oh, yeah, everything that I'm saying here happened. Yeah. So then these scholars say

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there's no chain directing, because we have that science, which they don't have authentic authentication, the science of Hadith. So they're saying that is there's nothing there. It's fabricated. Now. The other one, you can go either way. So the majority the minority, I mean, even taymiyah Mashallah. Great scholars, theological Islam. So if he says something, we can't just say, yeah, we can't just say he doesn't know what he's talking about, and just throw it out. Yeah. I mean, when we look at his reasoning, yeah, and he brings solid value. And then you gave a great, brilliant example like with, with your child. So this just it really, really doesn't hold much

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weight at the end. Yeah, I'm not an expert on it. I'm an expert on human nature and patterns. I'm not an expert on the Quran. I'm not an expert on the Bible. You people can take great example from him where they talk on Islam and he was overtly coming out and he was saying some very, very just malicious things about Islam lies, you know, things out of context, and he was spreading a lot of misinformation. But now it's just very amazing to see. Owen Benjamin. Now he's like most people who don't know the topic, they should come on. I just don't know. And he's doing that now. Yeah. You have to

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Have some sincerity to do that. So I made quite a change of not like half certain people paying you, because there's a whole industry. That's a whole different, whole different topic. So I think that he's kind of he's woke in that sense. And maybe he's off the grid now. And so he doesn't maybe have the same strings. Yeah. How much have you in your in your research? I believe it's like, documented almost like a over a quarter of a million dollars annually spent. I think that's a small number of money spent in the business of bashing Islam, I think much more than much more, much more. Yeah, it's my vested interest in making Islam look as bad as possible. Yeah. crann, way less than the

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Bible. But I'm still not capable of having these conversations. I know that Muslims I know follow God, and truth more than many, many, many Christians I know, that are pledging their soul to the nation of Israel, debt, and sodomy. And that's a fact. And you can say all you want, but when people are just like,

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dirty sweep it and desert dwelling, it's like you bombed them for 25 years, because of 911. And you shamelessly are just gonna keep slandering. 911 happens. And then we go into two countries, one of which were already there, and we haven't left. It's just Bombs away. Because Israel wants us to, and you can sit there and

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just keep condemning these people that you don't even know that you've never met, that they're, they've watched their families, guys, Obama was drone striking weddings. Have you ever been to a wedding and seen everyone's skin melt? I have it. I'm blessed that I've never seen everyone's skin melt off. Because a robot in the sky, found a cell phone in someone's pocket.

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your calf ears converted?

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that it's not just 20 years since 911, that Muslims have been bombed. It is generations. Okay. When did the colonial period start? It started in 1800. Right. And that's the beginning of the invasion of Muslim lands by the French and the British, and also the Dutch. And so you had genocide. Okay, look at and some of it is very documented in gory grim details, look at some of the pictures coming from Algeria, and what the French were doing, you have French soldiers with severed heads of believers, right? pictures of women, raped women who have just been raped Muslim believers, by these French savages, right? who have come to supposedly civilize the Muslims. Right? And so you have this

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history, over 200 years of, of colonialism that's ravaged the Muslim world, and not only physically but also intellectually, also spiritually. Okay, so this is the context that we are seeing the fruits of that now it doesn't end, right, because you have puppet leaders that have been installed in all of these Muslim countries, right divide and conquer strategy. And these puppets are, you know, Muslim by name. But they're getting all their money, and their weapons and their influence from the west. And their whole job is to suppress Muslims suppress Islam, be a secular dictator. Right. Don't let you know, men grow their beards, don't worry, you know, let women wear niqab cover

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themselves properly, we need to advance you know, quote unquote, human rights, so forth, what they really mean when they say advancing human rights, they mean, advancing Western culture and Western ideology. That's what they really mean. And so they've obliterated entire villages, right? is what's his Israel is doing to Philistine is just a small sample of what has happened throughout the history of colonialism, what the Serbs did to Bosnia, okay, that is just a branch of this project against the Muslim world. And so he is by saying 20 years, I'm glad that he's saying this, but it's just like the tip of the iceberg. tip of the iceberg. always getting,

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we get some good information to Oh, and Sharla. Okay, that's not to do that. I've asked you not to do that and you still can't stop. You're gone. Because you can't listen. Why now who can fall, fall basic rules of just being a guest in someone's chat. Muslims. If I told the Muslim to stop bashing Christians guess what they would do? They would stop and they probably wouldn't have even done it in the first place because they're not spoiled, and children. I asked you to stop debating the Qur'an and you wouldn't stop

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You are not that is not the word of God. You're here. This is my chat. It's like, follow basic etiquette, bro. You're gonna try and preach with your condemnation. I'm sick of it. It kept me from God for decades. I was raised Catholic where there was no God in that church. None. Zero was about money and control, barely cracked the Bible guys. So I could spot it like that. If I asked a Muslim just out of like, You're in my home, don't do this. Don't say this, they would say okay. So what you're doing is you're dramatizing your lack of God through your religion which you profess to be Christian. You're giving Christianity a bad name. If you're a guest in someone's home and as they

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say, Listen, I do not want to discuss this endlessly. And someone just goes on their coffee or you don't think I've heard that I was Stephen Crowder's head writer for six months I've heard all the bull[???]. You're taking it out of context. I know about calf ears and all that. How Sharia law your non believers pay more and you miss that dude, of course, we're under Jewish Sharia right now. The IRS takes more than half you won't admit that instead you're you're more likely just being like a dog for Israel free. bless Israel. God blesses us with our big houses. Your see Titanic. You think the Christianity means getting a big old airplane? I've asked you not to do it. I'll do a whole

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thing where I'll have an email. I'm on here. And we'll talk it out. We'll talk about I will have you guys email me specific sections. We'll have someone explain it. And if we catch them lying, we never have to trust it again. He said something brilliant. I'd have an Imam Come on. We invited Joe Rogan louder Crowder. You know people like that to go ahead and bring a someone who like yourself someone who specializes in this field to come on and just have a nice dialogue. A nice talk about it. Ask those tough questions. And we're still waiting. They haven't done that yet. But someone who was a writer for for louder from Crowder in front of Joe Rogan's, you know, it seems like he's had an

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awakening and he's saying the right things now. Yeah, I don't think that what he's saying now is similar to what Joe Rogan has ever said. Or what? Sorry, what Joe Rogan or Crowder, Crowder isn't talk like this. He's saying things that those two would even dream of saying so Mashallah, you know, may Allah guide him. And if he is true to that he's actually going to bring someone knowledgeable to to speak about these issues. I think that'll be beneficial for him, it will be beneficial for viewers, a couple points that he mentioned, as we can quickly just touch upon those coffee. He they they throw that out there. Yeah. What's I just mean someone who is no non Muslim, someone who is

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rejected. Okay, so, we're non Christian, is that an insult? It's just a descriptive term. But I mean, there is the connotation that okay, this is someone who has denied the truth, but it's not in the sense that, okay, you're in a different class, and you can never be redeemed or you can never have guidance, or you can never have, you know, being able to become a Muslim and to be, you know, accepted now as a Muslim, not like an illegal alien. illegal alien. So conference, someone who, who covers up the conceals, like a farmer, he does, like, so someone who's covering up the truth, right? They I, they use the derogatory terms. It's, I believe, another Christian term, infidel. Yeah. So

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that was a Christian term. And it's coming from the context of the crusades, the inquisitions and Reconquista does. So this is something that is from their tradition of Okay, you're not Christian, therefore, believe otherwise, accept the trendy otherwise, we're going to, or not even accept the Trinity except like this particular creed, because even amongst trinitarians, there's all kinds of different Yeah, creed. So it's very, if you're coming from that context, this is why arguably why liberalism and secularism came out of Europe, and atheism, modern atheism is our European

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concept. It's not something you don't find within the Muslim world. atheism, generating an atheistic thought it's been imported now and so now you find atheists in the Muslim world, but they're borrowing from Europeans, but intellectual thought of atheism is coming from Europe. Why? Because they had so much conflict and war and bloodshed based on like different sectarian disputes. And so that's created this hatred of religion but they paint all religions as being having that same kind of dynamic having that same kind of history, same blood thirstiness

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That's how people become secular. But if we show them that Islam is not like that it doesn't have that history doesn't have that kind of bloodlust, then that can be a door for guidance inshallah. Oh and Benjamin getting some love here from the Muslims coming directly to you and all those that follow you. And before we press play one was done a sherea sherea his 10 commandments, it's mentioned over 200 some times in the Bible, it's it's thrown out there like something foreign Boogeyman again come to get you. Jesus taught it, Moses taught it, Sharia the way that I explained Sharia is that if you believe in a loving merciful God, and you believe that he's created us with a

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purpose on this earth, then you believe necessarily that he's also saying guidance, okay, what kind of loving God would send human beings blindly, without any direction for their family, for their parenting for their communities, for their government, okay, for their economics, right? All these different facets of life, a merciful God, logically would send guidance, okay? And that's what Sharia is, that's the path, right, the path starts almost stopping the straight path. And so it doesn't, the, again, the Christian concept that religion only applies to your personal life, just who you are as an individual. And maybe if you're a conservative Christian, then you also think that

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religion applies to your family, like how husbands and wives should be with their children, so forth. But Islam expands that right now. guidance is not just for you as an individual, your marriage, your family, how about your community? Okay, what guidance is there for how to be in the communal context? What guidance is there on the economic level? What guidance is there on the governmental level, law and order? These are all important, crucial aspects of human life? Okay, doesn't God want us to be happy? You believe in a loving merciful God? Okay. So then those kinds of that kind of guidance is needed. In all he's talking about interest, right. That's something

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economic, it has nothing to do with your personals woken up to that also. He's woken up to that. So where's God's guidance? If you're a secularist? Do you think that oh, well, philosophers will just think like, what's the best way that human beings can live life I don't trust as someone who has a graduate degree in philosophy, I don't trust what people what philosophers have to say about how to live your life. And so you want to base an entire civilization on that? No, we have the Sharia, we were blessed to have God send us guidance, law, ethics, it's not just formal law. It's also ethics. It's how to be in the world. So what Moses brought will show you the 10 commandments, yes, his

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guidance, that guidance from the all loving and will do the Creator of the heavens and earth with Jesus brought in its original we don't have the original today has been changed. That's why the last and the last and final measure of Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon them. With that guidance, it's it's there, but they throw these terms and you're not used to these terms. And now you get scared and all the like the history of Christianity is, in the political context. You had the corrupt church, he mentioned it, right, the Catholic Church that made a deal with the devil basically saying that, look, we'll have our domain, and you have your domain, right? We're not going

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to step on your toes, you don't step on our toes, we'll have this separation of church and state and this deal. It's a business deal, right. And so that's where that's arguably, it's very complicated academic, I won't I won't bore you. But that's arguably the origins of this kind of secularism that we have in Islam, right. We don't have the scholars were persecuted right Islamic scholars, Mr. Ahmed, Mr. Malik, all of the major scholars were persecuted because the Sultan, the Sultan, would say look, rubber stamp and endorse religiously endorse my corruption, right? religiously endorse me as a as a leader. And they wouldn't do it. That's a no, I don't wanna have anything to do with it. I

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want corrupt and confuse people by mixing. And so so many amazing stories, where am I mad, for example, when except gifts, right? The Sultan sent him all of this kind of delicious sweets and bread and food. And he said, No, I'm not going to accept, accept any of this is one of the great scholars of Islam. Right. And so then they took those get gifts and they threw it in the river. And then Mr. Ahmed wouldn't eat any fish that was caught in that river. Just on the basis of he wants to keep it pure, right. He doesn't want anything to do benefit in any way from this kind of gift or and this kind of bribe essentially because he's

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Worried about what he's going to say to Allah? On the day of judgment? Did you do anything to justify the corruption of these leaders, and so we don't have this kind of concept. as Muslims, we don't have this kind of negative attitude of our religious leaders. We don't have this negative, we don't have this bad suspicion. You find that in Christianity and Judaism in Judaism, they considered their prophets. They considered Moses, they considered all of the Old Testament prophets to be corrupt, like lot, right? To be corrupt, and to call, do even vile kinds of behavior get drunk, you know, commit incestuous acts. Yeah. But we don't have that in Islam. We understand that the MBA the

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prophets were all pure. Yeah. And our moms are inheritors of the prophets. And they are, the leaders of them are all pure. Right. And so this is we don't have the same problems that Christians have, and Jews have in this day and age. All right, let's consider that for hamdulillah. Let's go on with Owen. Benjamin here. That's how it works. Its terms and conditions, Muslims in name only committing acts of violence. It does not condemn Islam. Because if that's true, then a lot of Christians are condemning Christianity which I will not abide by, because I love Jesus Christ. That's a fact. I have deep love for Jesus Christ. So if you hold Muslims to the standard in which you do not follow

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yourself, you are humiliating My Lord. Get to hear the beatings. We love more, we love Jesus Christ more, okay. We love Jesus Christ more as Muslims, and we're expecting him to come and he will come, the Messiah will come and he'll defeat the Antichrist. And we have that belief. We believe it in such an a great extent that even next to the Prophet peace be upon him his grave in Medina. Next to him is an open grave. Who is that grave reserved for that grave is reserved for the Messiah, Jesus peace be upon him when he comes, he's going to live, and he's going to rule, he's going to break the cross, he's going to kill the pig, right? Pork, and he is going to rule with justice, and God's law,

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and then he'll live a life and then he'll pass away. He's the Promised Messiah that everyone is waiting for. And that's Jesus Christ. And so we have that. plot that grave next to the Prophet, peace behind Mohammed. And so we actually love Jesus much more than Christians do. We don't attribute lies to Jesus and say that he was God, or that he was the creator or God killed himself to save like all of these Christmas like stories. We don't have that we we pray like Jesus prayed, look at what the New Testament says about Jesus praying, prostrating, I had a friend in college, a Christian friend. And he, he was more conservative, and evangelical. And we will talk about

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religion. Sometimes I asked them like, well, what makes you interested in Islam, and he said that, you know, I really am moved by prostration. By sujood, like you guys are putting to pray to your Lord, you're putting your forehead, your face on the floor. And that's something that Christian we don't do that we don't have that. And that's something that really I admire about Islam. And then it was interesting because later we were in the dorm, Harvard watching some video of a famous convert to Islam Muslim preacher, and he was talking about his story why he became Muslim. And as he's describing a saying that I watched Muslims prostrate, and putting their heads on the ground this is

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on YouTube, he's speaking this and then this Christian friend walks in just right at that moment. And here is this you know from this person and from this Muslim, so upon law, this is something that the beauty of Islam is easily recognizable and if Christians look in their own books, and they look at Jesus Christ His life what he is preaching, okay, his words not what came later in the in the gospels after with Paul and so forth. Okay? They look at what actually Jesus preaching in the Bible, if they look at the Old Testament and see, they can read Muhammad in the Bible, other books that talk about Islam and the Bible, that all the signs are there, these are all signs right? I add that

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will lead someone to the truth and so we have good expectation and good hopes for everyone, all Christians, all Christians, everyone in the world that the truth is there for you. And we're gonna open welcome you with open arms. You heard that open? I mean, and all the followers Oh, and all the Christians out there that the Muslims have a deep love and reverence for Jesus. There's a whole chapter named after his blessing mother, Mary, you talked about we greet like Jesus Peace be with you circumcised like Jesus, pray like Jesus. And most of all, we worship the One God

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God the same way Jesus did have the Trinity he never did that he worshipped the one and only one creator. Let's go ahead and finish up here until order is resumes you guys got to see something now this is interesting you we went from him he's even got a beard now

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and he and he's gonna do something that's gonna just blow our minds about start doing something that's even more fascinating check this out

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you guys got to see some of the comments I get just for saying that Christianity is closer to Islam than it is Judaism. I'm going to start saying peace be upon him when I say Mohammed just to troll people man Muhammad peace be upon him just gonna Muhammad peace be upon I'm gonna start saying that in front of Christian Zionists and Jews they're gonna lose their mind. Muhammad peace be upon him.

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I'm like you worship money. That's our friend Owen. Benjamin. Hmm, God willing, may Allah the Creator of the heavens and earth and Aramaic Jesus called aloha law him this is all merciful, loving you ask him for guidance, and He will guide you and inshallah you'll be saying peace be upon all of them sincerely from your heart. And you will be one who has submitted his will to the credit the heavens and earth, we pray that Allah opens your heart and guide you to the truth and are we so blessed that we have Islam is so blessed that,

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you know, I just some certain moments, you just hit you and you recognize that other people are missing out. And Allah has given us this beautiful gift of Islam, and we want to share it, we want to share it and we want others to see that and to enjoy the fruits of that in their lives and in the hereafter. And then that when I when I when I shared this story with just today when when he was

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sharing what had happened to him. I felt literally like I felt like really bad man. I felt like you know, I'm literally gonna cry, but I felt like inside you get those like that, that chill like, Man, this is you felt really bad for him. He lost he got kids, she went off and and you're like, Man, this Dean, you know, if you had it, just those preventative things that you can do the tools Islam gives you the blueprint for life, that if you follow it, you'll be successful in life, you know, things will happen divorce, it can happen. It's not that like in Christianity where you're actually you're not allowed to get divorced, right?

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Yeah, it's not a sin in Islam, but it gives you the tools that you will function better. and navigate through all of these challenges in life, from the small to the big, you gave some great examples earlier, you know, from the miniscule, to the micro to the macro things that come up the challenges where people don't have those things. And you know, you see it and you're like, wow, this, actually I have some here that can help you, you know what I mean? But we look at the corruption with the way women dress, and pornography. And the kind of shamelessness like this is something that any Christian any God fearing Christian, can see that this is so harmful, and it's on

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a macro level. And so how can you criticize as a Christian? How can you can't criticize hijab? How can you criticize modesty in Islam? Look at even your depictions of the Virgin Mary, which again, we believe obviously she's wearing the job, she's wearing his job, right? And so the value of this and the value of modesty, gender relations, all of this is clear truth, truth after truth after truth, and it's been preserved. Right? It hasn't been distorted. Why, okay, as you as a Christian reflect, why isn't covering the head seen as so important nowadays, amongst Christians? What you have the preacher's wife in all this kind of makeup, and she's even getting plastic surgery because she has

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to look good and raise those millions of dollars for her private jet. Right? That he brings up actually on? Oh, really? He said, You think Christianity is about having a big plane?

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Yeah, prosperity gospel. So has anything to do with your religion. Right? If you understand the value of modesty if you're seeing the Virgin Mary, who has that who has preserved that slum, so all of these stereotypes, the main things they want to criticize Islam for, and we can go through a list. All of those become the strongest proofs for Islam, that Islam is the truth. Okay. This is my experience. If you're going to look at I mean, the ultimate miracle because Jesus during his time, he had miracles to prove that he was indeed who He said He was a messenger he never claimed we give the $100,000 Challenge Are you with it? If someone can produce any authentic statement where Jesus

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says, I am God worship me right here today? Would you pay $100,000? Yeah, so we got it again, another $100,000 challenge. But he did call people to submit their will to the Creator of the heavens and earth. It's their the proof that he was a messenger during his time, mostly during his time and then to sum it up.

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Today if you want to substantiate the Prophet Muhammad peace and blessings be upon him was indeed who He said He was in God's who God said he was you look at the Quran genuinely, sincerely. Then you look at Prophet Muhammad's life, his Sita, his history, I mean you have in the Quran, you have things that are mentioned in there, there's no way that him or group of men could come up with these things authenticity of the Quran, now they've done analysis, they've done analysis, right? using computer linguistics, this is a research paper, maybe I can give you the link for the video. But they did computer analysis, because now you can analyze a piece of writing. Or you can analyze two

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pieces of writing and tell if it's from the same author. Because even if you're trying to fake it, like I'm trying to pretend like I'm impersonating Edie, and I'm writing a letter, they can look at the analysis and compare of that letter that I'm impersonating you, and compare it with something that else I've written and know, okay, this is actually Edie or, or not, right? You can do computer analysis of that. And so what they've done is they've taken the Koran, all of the verses of the Quran, and they've taken the statements of the Prophet peace be on him. So I'm Hadeeth. And they've compared them is this the same author? is the author of Hadeeth, the same as the author of the

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Quran? Because this is what the atheist in the non Muslims claimed that the product is beyond Mohammed. So I Sam has written the Quran by his own hand, they've done the analysis, and it's definitive. This is not the same law. Look at that. And that's not a war cry that just praise God created the heavens enter like you say Hallelujah, huh? Look at that. That is amazing. Think about that. Oh, and think about that. Think about that. So they've done this analysis, we're differentiating because we have the statements authentic statements from Prophet Mohammed, his speech, then you have the Quran, this is the verbatim words of the Almighty, they distinguished and

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you can test even even someone just reading the Quran and then reading the statements of the Prophet peace be upon him and the Heidi Yeah, you can tell even if even in the English translation, you can tell it's not the same style. It's not the same way of writing. If you know Arabic, it's even more clear, and I've had non Muslim Arabs, like Arab Christians from Lebanon and other other places, admit that I've read the Quran and it's just beautiful. There's nothing like it. And there's no comparison. And it's very clear that the Hadith is not the same author, as the Koran. And they won't take the extra step and admit that okay, this is from Allah. So what's the conclusion of that? Okay,

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this Koran is from the creator from Allah, they won't because of maybe lack of sincerity or whatever, but they admit it at least. And now there's even computer linguistic analysis, because there's forensic studies, there's a whole field. In literature, it's a big deal because they want to authenticate. Did Shakespeare really write Hamlet? Did Shakespeare really write Romeo and Juliet. And so they've done using computer technology. Now, to do that kind of analysis, there are theories that Shakespeare didn't actually write many of the works that are attributed to him. But that same technology has been used to compare Quran and Hadith and have shown that they don't have the same

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author definitively. And so what can you conclude the rational person will conclude that, okay, in 23 years of the Prophet peace be upon him his life in his career? What is that he has all of these statements that have been recorded by the people around him, he was illiterate, he didn't know how to read and write. So where did this book come from? Yeah, it doesn't make sense that someone collaborated over 23 years to reveal it, or to publish it or whatever, to many people think of like Nostradamus, Nostradamus, he made some vague predictions. The majority of things they weren't correct one thing or they're so vague, they're so vague. So now people like put him up on some kind

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of pedestal. But if if Prophet Muhammad SAW as if he made one prediction or he said something in the Quran, that's not accurate. It's a contradiction clearly then you discredit the whole thing but you don't find that so not only from the Quran, then you study his life and you see the prophecies things that are just clear it's not vague clear

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things in there like for instance what comes to mind and then all when can look this up himself, you know, where the promises some predicted that will come a time when the Barefoot Arab will be competing and building the tall build tall buildings, right? Who would have known that at that time? For instance? It's it's, it's something so specific. Yeah. And it's so

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on. Unexpected? Yeah. Okay, because I'll tell you why. The what you're referring to is the Hadith. This is the famous hadith of gibreel where Gabriel came and asked the Prophet peace be upon him. What is Islam? What is he man? What is it Hassan? And I want to belabor it, but then he asked him, What are when is the hour of the time the questioner knows as little as the one being question. And then what is what are the signs of the day of judgment and so the product piece behind gave some signs

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One of them being that one of the signs that the Day of Judgment is near is that barefoot Bedouins will be competing with each other to construct,

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you know, tall buildings. Where's the tallest building? Now? It's in the way your birchcliff are right? Yeah. Okay, so But why this is it's very specific. It's not just some vague notion Nostradamus kind of prediction or prophecy like oh, there's gonna be some war. There's there's been war throughout history. Like that's not very specific. But building Bedouins are nomadic. Okay, these kind of nomadic shepherds. They don't have material they're living in the desert, they don't have civilization. Buildings are this are the mark of a civilization the ability to build tall buildings like the pyramids of Giza, for example. That's a sign and now the big Manhattan, New York

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City. And so for Bedouins to be able to construct these high buildings, where do they get the wealth from? They didn't know about oil. At the time of the Prophet peace be upon him, they didn't know about that kind of material wealth that was underneath the desert, that we find, you know, the United Arab Emirates and Qatar and so forth. So that is something so specific, it's something so unexpected. But now we see it with our eyes, and many other prophecies of the Prophet peace be upon him that are like this. And so this is clear proof like this is clear, any rational person weigh the evidence, like what other religion has prophecies about the last day, about the coming of the end of

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so many is so abundant, there are many very vague predictions or prophecies. But in Islam, we have the specifics. This is if you take for instance, and the reason I bring up Nostradamus is to strike that example, let's say you have a red bean and a green bean, the green is that you're right accurate. If you put just one over here, that's not you discredit the whole thing, Nostradamus would have been just you know, discredited A long time ago, but you have all these things like the human development of the development of human being in the embryo like from early stages, like in the Quran, and all the other you know, the the signs that are in there, the prophecies, so just keep

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adding the green beans, green beans green, Correct, correct? Correct. Correct. Right, correct. Right. The memorization of the Quran the authenticity of the Quran, so we know all of that but then you study his life and you see these prediction we just named one too many books have been written about this then you have the miracles you have to authored How do you know like if someone had seen at a particular time and accident and event and you have like 50 people in the room, they're eating the same thing. 100 people, but then you have we usually boast about well, the Christian usually boasts about the miracles of jesus peace be upon him which we only believe because of the Quran

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substantiates it right so then you have the Prophet Mohammed who also did miracles

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being able to people taking would do from the fingers, water, water gushing from his fingers, abundance of food also from a small plate. Things like the moon split the moon splitting the prediction when the trench was being built.

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The Battle of the trench striking the rock the striking the rock, you know, the prediction for Yemen, what else? Yemen?

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Syria, Sham, I mean, green been great meaning? Yeah, Correct. Correct. kisara when the Bounty Hunter was after him, right. And then he had fall of the Persian Empire and then he told a bounty hunter that who was chasing him if he goes back you'll be sitting on the throne he'll be sitting on the throne of kisser bring the bracelets. Right right. And then and then sometime later during I think it was time to the on. Then they conquered this and conquered Persia. He won he went out wearing those bracelets. So this is just unbelievable. So Owen, Benjamin look into this and those people that are out there who are watching this with a sincere heart where genuine the evidence, the green

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beans, all these pointing like we can you I come from it's uncomprehending that this would just be and then at the end when he was asked you know he was offered like these politicians they sell their own mothers out their souls many the majority of them he was offered the money the fame the women all of these things he said now if you put the right the morning my right you know, the sun in my left no, I'm not giving us up until his messages establish a pure monotheism. Yeah. So I come from that background similar to you were secular background born Muslim, but didn't know anything about Islam wasn't taken to a Masjid. For most of my life. The first time I went to a Friday prayer was in

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high school. So I was very secular. I came to studying Islam with a sense of objectivity. I'm going to be as objective as possible. I'm, I have a very analytic mind. And I can smell like Bs, basically. Right? And so that's why I studied physics. Because of that. I study philosophy. And the goal was to be objective and fair. And that's how I came to Islam. Because when you actually do that comparison and that rational analysis, the counting, as you said, like in favor of Islam in favor of Islam,

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in favor of Islam, then it becomes overwhelming. It becomes overwhelming. And so this is the message that we have we there in Islam, there's no conflict between faith and reason. Right? In Islam, we know that the more rational you are, the more the stronger your belief is going to be the stronger your faith, your the stronger your man, your faith is going to be in God. Okay, there's no conflict unlike with other religions. Okay, there's no we don't have that sense of a leap of faith and a sense. Okay? Reason, your your, your mind that the true pure mind that hasn't been corrupted by modern ideologies is going to hit the truth like an arrow. And that sincerity right? So we we

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understand that the mind and the heart and the rule, the neffs these are all connected and we have to purify it just like we purify the self, we purify the mind. And that leads us to the truth, there's no conflict. I want to hit this point home so Owen can understand and anyone else who professes that deep love for God Almighty, the creator, a law and simply when we say a law, this is the Creator of the heavens, the earth. Like I said earlier, Jesus called on the creator aloha Elohim. This is because the English language didn't exist. And it's interesting. If you take Jesus and you take off the J, what do you have Isa, Isa, Isa, Isa, this is this is a who's mentioned the

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crowd This is real name. So now to hit home with God Almighty being the most loving the Most Merciful Elva dude, as is called, he has the most beautiful names. But one of the things and the most just that he will not forgive if you're doing it now, if you're worshiping other than the creator right now. And you turn your way back to him, he'll forgive but if you die on this one, or anyone else, and we say this out of genuine concern and love, this is the unforgiveable unpardonable act, that God Almighty if you die on this, and that's why I just want to hit home with this because it's so serious, it's like you're going to get through the border.

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They made it so easy. You could just get through, you know what I mean? And you have to obviously know the Quran and Sunnah to understand this concept. But now they're letting you go, just go ahead, go ahead. And over here, this is one thing you got to just stay away from. Right? Don't do this, otherwise, you're going to be banned. Right? So now you did this one thing, you set up a partner, a rival with God, and I give an example. And none of these examples can bring justice to it. Because it's it's it's so it's it's such a

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vile, it's, it's so it's such a horrid thing to do that blasphemy where now imagine someone and maybe you can you can hit home with it also, where you raise a child, and you and you bring this child up. And this child, you know, you send it to school, you wash his diapers, you provide for it, you know, to their grown up, and next thing you know, they get up to think right at their graduation, after you've done all the hard work. And this does not do justice to the comparison but just something that it can stimulate someone just to think how would you feel now that son when he got a little girlfriend, and he got out there and he phrase the girlfriend that he's been dating for

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a couple of weeks, he totally forgot about his parents. You know what I mean?

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How would you explain so we can hit home when we say [???]? Why is this such a grave action that someone that is unpardonable? unforgivable if you die on it? So God is giving you as your Creator, everything that you have, it's like, the parent analogy is kind of understating it. Understand, understand, God is giving you every every breath that you take, you can't take a breath, every atom in your body, okay is moving by the will of God. And so your existence from moment one iota of time to the next is by the mercy and the will of God. And so how can you not be thankful to that God and if that and your Creator tells you something, okay? Your creator says, everything that you can do is

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open to forgiveness. Okay, I'm going to send you commandments. Don't do this. Don't Don't steal, don't cheat, don't have this can do the sexual behavior.

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Don't eat certain kinds of food, don't do drugs, giving these kinds of commandments. But even those if you fall and you make mistakes, To err is human right? God will forgive you if you you're sincere, and you ask for forgiveness, right or even if you don't ask for forgiveness, certain things God might pardon out of his mercy and out of his

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his his wisdom. But he says that this one thing, this one thing, do not do Don't cross this line. And God just has that one condition, and then everything. He gives you all the ability to recognize that truth with the fifth law. He gives you the fifth law internally, he sends messenger after messenger after messenger

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With miracles, okay, undeniable miracles, even miracles, today we're talking about the prophecies that have come true true prophecies of the Prophet beyond the Koran, this linguistic analysis that I'm referring to that shows that the divine origin, okay, and as a sign of that all of these evidences to get you to see that this line is, should not be crossed. And then and then you cross it. And then and then you, you know, throw that all away. And then you do the one thing that just shows the kind of revolt against God, the kind, this is why it's so satanic. Okay, this is why it's so satanic because God is willing to forgive all of these things and give you all of this leeway,

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okay to live life, and obviously, they're their bad deeds and sins, okay? But those you are still you can be forgiven for. But this one thing is what Allah says in the Quran, that he will not forgive his sheer cause setting up partners with God, that is how severe it is because it represents such a rebellion. At its core, a rebellion against God. And that's why, you know, Satan, that's his primary objective. His primary objective is to get human beings to turn away from their Creator and their sustainer. And instead worship other than him. So in reality, those who are setting up partners with God are worshipping Satan, yeah. And to look at the fundamental message and make it

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easy for Owen, when you look at the authenticity of the Quran, as opposed to the Bible. You look at that, because you don't have a copy as great scholars of the Bible one, for instance, Bart, Arum, he, I quote him, he says, We don't have a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of any original text, no Bible. Now look at the Quran, evaluate that, then look at the message here of Islam, which obviously, by now, only you know that Islam is peace acquired by submission to the will of the Creator, not the creation. And then you look at what Christianity is pretty much is believing of a blood sacrifice, that Jesus was God, not God, but a little son of God, God

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committed suicide. Right? And pretty much died, Jesus died for your sins, and then the Trinity and it becomes confusing, then you got to just have faith. And so if you if you evaluate those the simple message of pure monotheism and Islam, where should be God alone? And it's not because see, this is where they go back many people to say, Oh, look, is because your good deeds, no, this is how you get the mercy of God, right? by obeying God. So then you have that simple concept, pure monotheism, worshiping God alone, doing your utmost best of obeying God, loving God, showing it through your actions. And then that's how you get the mercy of God. Very straightforward, very

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simple, and living by the revelation that God Almighty sent, which is the verbatim Word of God Almighty, the Quran and the example of Prophet Mohammed, if you were living during the time of Jesus, you would have to follow his way his example, Muhammad peace and buzzy panem is just the final messenger. So you have this over here. And then you have over here this across the Christianity, the salvation blood of Christ, three and one Trinity. And this is from there if which one does your innate nature draw two more? Right? Here Be sincere in that right. That's why a lot of Christians end up leaving Christianity is because it just they don't it doesn't make sense to them.

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They don't understand it. And then they think that all religions are equally nonsensical and in their creed in their theology. And so they become atheists when they could be Muslims, they if they had only reflected now, Satan, Shakedown got them in another trap. Another trick, another trick, I mean, yeah. And atheists themselves, they're also committing shirk, because they're worshipping the self. So they're worshipping the self. They're worshipping their reason, thinking that the reason those all and can understand all and can evaluate, they also they've done surveys about the number of atheists who are superstitious, and they actually believe in karma, and spirit stones and

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spiritual energy. It's a very 30% of atheists actually have these kinds of, or reincarnation, atheists who believe in this kind of stuff. So Shere Khan is the only religion that does not have idol worship, is Islam. The only monotheistic faith is Islam. Yeah. All these other religions and non religions. atheism is a type of religion, you can find you'll find that kind of taking the authority from God and ascribing others as God. I like what you said there. We're almost out of time, but just covering these points so we can make it easy for Owen and others. So they don't have to do too much legwork. We give them the the crust of the message, Cliff Notes, slip notes. Yeah,

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the atheist that's really powerful because they will, they will subside to doing a bunch of

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rituals. superstitions heard this great example of, you know, the, the God of fortune for tonight. Have you heard of this one? So Scandinavian God, where, where they would they would attribute this to Good luck, bad luck, my fortune, your fortune. Because when you ask the agent, it's all based on good luck. Bad luck, right? They would actually, you know the things that they do, for instance, knocking on wood, this is that old Scandinavian guy they will knock on on wood, knock on this tree got to go and wake it up and to go ahead and to make prayers to it. So if you look at these things that they do my lucky shirt, Lucky rabbit's foot, you know, the knocking on the wood. All these are

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pagan rituals that go back to somehow connected to some pagan. Yeah, you see so much of that. The thing about atheism is all they do is borrow, borrow, right? they borrow from other religions, but they want to claim that they're not religious. And one really prominent atheists, john gray, made this statement. And he's written an entire book on it, the seven types of atheism. And his claim is that all of the values that atheism profess in this modern period are actually borrowed from Christianity. So they have taken those values, like be nice to your neighbors, tolerate people who are different from you. These are all values taken from Christianity and other religions. And then

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you're living by that and you're claiming to be an ethical person, but without religion, so you're just not giving credit to your sources. So this is the reality of atheism as recognized by atheists themselves. So Owen,

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Benjamin, that's his name. Yeah, I went Benjamin, I hope you've enjoyed this and all his followers and the Joe Rogan's and everybody we got much love for you. That's what we're sharing this message. And hopefully you can follow with louder and crowd on them, they can follow some of the lead that he's been taking now and opening his mind and, and putting things in context and not speaking out of line. He's in the video showing that hold on. I'm not an expert here, let me let me bring on an expert. And he said some good things. But if as a Christian he can profess I believe this is in the Gospel of john, have something that we would say this is pretty accurate, where Jesus is, had said

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that this is life eternal, that they may know you, the only true God and Jesus whom you have sent. So if you can shift that from taking Jesus as a literal Son of God, or a god to one that God Almighty sent out of his love for guidance, because he was the way the truth and the light, you can bypass him to get to God, you had to obey him as a messenger of God. And he was particular time period and people now if you can shift it and then look at like you mentioned, the, the prophet to come after Jesus was Prophet Mohammed, it's also their Prophet, Mohammed and about investigate this, but I like to leave people with that homework, to earnestly seek the guidance from your Creator as

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the creator for guidance, and start to do be courageous and brave like you're showing to be now and do this legwork. And now you make the shift that there's only there's nothing first integration, there's nothing worthy of worship except the Creator of the heavens and earth in Arabic, Allah, and Mohammed now is the messenger, because he is for all time until the end of time. And that would be that simple step and he would be entering into the mercy of God and that promise at the end if he dies on that agenda paradise Forever, ever.

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Is that right? Absolutely. Yeah. So any message for Owen?

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I can't say it better than that. And then he can check you out also at the end others can check you out at a Muslim skeptic Yeah, Muslim skeptic calm and then a Lesnar Institute Lesnar

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is coming from the statement of Walmart that's not and how are we not on the truth. And this is a statement from Omar, the halifa. And the great companion of the Prophet peace be upon him. And so I started an institute with this idea of, are we not on the truth isn't Islam the truth and we have to have that confidence in Islam as the truth in order to spread it in order to raise our kids. So that's the institute I teach things like, why is Islam the truth? A lot of Muslims are confused about this question. For whatever reason, evidence is rational argumentation, if you believe in God, right, because that's the biggest demographic people who believe in God but their spiritual they

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don't know why should I follow a specific religion? But this class that I teach is dedicated to why is Islam the truth to give you that boost and confidence and understanding of why Islam is head and shoulders above all of these manmade ideologies and Islam is God given it's not manmade so that's all that's all you can find me on online Muslim skeptic calm and Alaska Institute is you can also do a Google search and find it inshallah, thank you, brother. Thank you for being with us here on The Daily Show. The credit habits errs reward you just like last year, and I want to

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want you to imagine a house, a beautiful, beautiful mansion of any sort that you can put in your mind? And you're admiring it. And there's just one brick there that's missing from this beautiful house. The Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him. He described himself as that miss that brick that was missing. He was the completion, the finality of the messenger ship. Now if you're sincere and you're genuine and you look into us, you'll come to that realization

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that he was indeed the messenger sent to you and to all of mankind as a mercy to the world Prophet Mohammed as you said, peace be upon him, and peace be upon Jesus and all the other messengers there was sent with the same simple message, worship the Creator, not the creation, the one God, we'll see you next time guys, subscribe if you haven't already, hit the notification bell. Leave us your takeaways in the comments below. Until next time, in the greetings of Jesus, Mohammed and all the messengers Peace be with you as salaam alaikum