03 – Imaamah in the light of the Quran
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but for whatever it's worth inshallah we continue where we left off last week
we were discussing the issue of Mr. Ma
and in the course of our discussion in our first lecture, we discussed the nature of the concept of imama.
from last week on we started discussing a mama in light of the Quran in order to see does that does the Quran give any credence, any foundations any basis to a belief such as in Arma.
Tonight we go on to the first of those ayat,
which often used by the car to support the idea of the divinely appointed Imam of satana ameerul momineen Ali have never thought about the Allahu arndell.
However, last week, in our question and answer session, there was a question that stood out.
And for whatever it's worth, I thought to pay some attention to that particular question because it is somewhat niggling and you might find it somewhere in the back of your mind, not adequately dealt with.
A brother posed the question that some time ago, Barack Obama spoke in Cairo.
And he was applauded.
And an attempt was made by the question or some or the other to make a connection between what is happening in this mass media and Soviet state now, and what is transpiring at a much higher geopolitical level elsewhere in the world.
While you and I
might be well aware of the fact that we weren't invited here by any US State Department or anyone else, we know of ourselves the reason why we are here. At the same time, we take cognizance of the fact that internationally, certain things are happening.
Between nation states, there are various tensions.
And what is being done at the ground level, might not directly be related to it, but might somehow or the other be seen or interpreted to have a connection, somehow or the other.
The point is that they exists a certain need, and that needed for the unloosen, our Gema, to acquaint themselves and get clarity and knowledge for themselves as to what is the shine, you're all about? What is she ism. Now, if we wait go back 30 years when she isn't first raised its head in South Africa. At that time, if you had done something of this nature, then it would have been said to us that it is not the time. Because right now the Iranian Revolution is going on it is the first of its kind, it's a unique event in history. So don't do this kind of event right now wait for a while.
Thereafter, if some way by the mid 80s. We wanted to do something of this guy who'd have said no, that iraq iran war war is on right now, your event might be misinterpreted in a particular way. So don't do it right now. And the 80s came in the 80s went and then come the 90s. And if you wanted to do something of the kind of again, it would be said that this would be seen geopolitically in a particular way it would be interpreted differently, therefore is not the time to do this right now. And every decade that comes in every year, that comes some of the other they will be
the complaint that an event of this nature is not opportune at this moment.
Who is it that has to consider when the moment is opportune and when it is not opportune?
Who has to consider geopolitical realities against the needs of a particular site your idea
not too long ago,
when the Americans were marching on the gates of Baghdad, who was there to assist them, and who was there to take over leadership of the Iraqi population at that time, it was the Shia very shortly before that had been sitting under the protection of the Iranian state. They returned to Iraq and they became the rulers of the new government. And then geopolitics played no role. Open collaboration
With the American invader at that moment in time, no one raises
any eyebrows to say that this is not geopolitically opportune for the Muslim world right now. But a small little group of people come together in a Masjid to acquaint themselves better with a phenomenon that has been plaguing this community for a long time. And this has to be seen as geopolitical a betrayal of the oma. I think that we are applying double standards if we come to a conclusion such as that.
The only reason why we have come together, the only reason why this platform was founded, is to spread knowledge to to acquaint ourselves for no other reason, no matter what the paper says out there. You who have been here and who will still be here will notice that there's only one thing that's available and that insha Allah is knowledge and knowledge alone. We do not go from here with any agenda, but to use the knowledge which we have acquired in order to inoculate ourselves against any such things that will be detrimental to our particular part of the oma and to help others who find themselves in similar predicaments.
It is often said
that out of everyone out there in the world is only the CIO realized who is the great site and who is the great enemy. Everyone else. If you look at Sunni governments, well, they're not waking up to reality. They in cahoots with this particular government, they in cahoots with that particular government. Some of it is true, some of it might not be true. I just wish to relay to you something
of my own personal experience a few years ago.
A friend of mine from Johannesburg, took me along to a cousin of his this cousin,
born a son he of course, had converted to Shiism, the one who converted him was the previous ambassador of Iran in this country. I had to learn Mohammed Madhavi he was the one who converted him. So the friend of mine texts me along he says, Please speak to my cousin. I went along spoke to the cousin. He says well, very well we had a good discussion. Come back next week again, inshallah.
Next week, he is he gives a phone call, he says, Don't come back. I don't want to you're not welcome in my house any longer. Fine. What's the problem? No, he been speaking to people. They told him don't speak to those people there. They enjoyed the stay away from them. That's not the point though. My friend, however, goes back to his cousin. The cousin says that, you know, 10 years ago, I embraced Shiism. And at that time, like everyone else I was believing also
led the greatest enemies of the Muslim Ummah, today is America, and is Britain and is Russia. 10 years within Judaism has led me to a new conclusion, the greatest enemies of the oma today is not American Russia. It's not Britain and France, the greatest enemies of this almost Russian novel jamara. Now, I'm not going to generalize, I'm not going to say that every Shia believes like that. What What I can say is that in terms of what I have read of the Shia legacy, in terms of their particular vision of history that I have imbibed from their works, this fits perfectly in harmonizes perfectly with what is in there. So it's not very, very unlikely that a person will form an idea
such as this, because he has been fed a certain version of history, he has been fed a certain version of the interpretation of the Koran. He's been fed certain texts purporting to be from the Sunnah of Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, it is just natural, that eventually would come to a point where it says, the real enemy is not those on the outside the real enemy or these will call themselves the Allah so noble jamara. We are here today, in order to avert a situation, where we start looking at one another in a similar way. Because when we start looking at one another in that way, then what will follow is the bloodshed that we spoke of in our first lecture. That's where we
do not want to be, there's only one way to avoid that. And that is that for which we have come together here, inoculate ourselves, equip ourselves with a sufficient store of knowledge, that when that particular gems come knocking on your door, you do not succumb to it.
We go on
the IO, which we wish to discuss tonight, is called generally the ayatollah.
Now, wilaya What does we refer to? We lie refers to a relationship of mutual support, mutual assistance and friendship, solidarity.
This kind of social solidarity should exist within this one man
has to exist between the members of this oma a lot Allah says, One min owner, Walmart Minato Babu.
They are
I mean on the believing men, and believing Omen, they are all the outer layer of one another meaning that they are the friends and the supporters and they have solidarity amongst themselves. This is one united oma, where we stand shoulder to shoulder against an enemy on the outside.
This is what we understand from the word relyea. As it is used in many different places in the Quran. To the Shiva however the word we allow here has a completely different meaning without your means your allegiance to the whole by it without your means your allegiance to the Imams of the Avalon Bay and therefore they read this is in nama Wali yo como la hora solo who will levena Manu larina up Mona salata, tuna sakata, whom rocky on
your Wali, in other words, that particular friend with whom you have solidarity, that particular friend, who you regard as your master, that one whom you regard as your leader, it can only be Allah, it can be his raw soul, and it can be one Levine amanu the believers and levena yoky, Muna salada, we establish the salah while you are tunas, and they give zeca wahome rocky own and they bow down.
Now nothing that I have gives you any indication that there's a connection with Avalon Bay thus far. But here we are going to look at two particular concepts to particular concepts, which are going to be indispensable for understanding many similar IR, let us say from now already, that we might not be able to cover each and every idea which has been used by the Shia. But once we learn the principle behind it, then we will be able to apply those principles to any other idea and come to a proper conclusion. Those two, those two principles, those two rules that we're going to learn here, firstly, that of context, once an idea is seen within its proper context, its meaning emerges
properly. Once it is taken out of its context, then you can do with that whatever you want to. I want to give you an example there of how an ion once removed from ICANN, its context acquires a completely different meaning.
The Shia have the arcada that the Maddie who is the 12th in the line of Imams, he is still alive 1200 years ago, he disappeared from the sight of men. He is existing at some dimension some way is there we do not see him. He has been kept alive by our Lord Allah because heaven and earth depend upon his existence. So he is there is not leading. He's not dispensing guidance is not teaching anyone but he is keeping everyone in existence as them Now where does the Quran speak about anything like this? We haven't come across anything that tell you, buddy yet Allah, Allah come in kuntum meaning what's the Bucky yet Allah that thing which Allah has kept excellent for you. That thing
which Allah has kept excellent for you is better for you if you have Eman severity is the I appear to love. Now the lesson of context, take that idea to its context and then see what does it mean where does it come sort of hood? I N number 8676 something of the kind. It is the story of say Eden or Shai Valley, Sarah? Sure he comes to his people Willa Medina Han Shan arriba Allah Omar Abdullah harmala Camila Himalaya Shaw AB sent to his people of Medina and and the he comes to them and tells them that you have no Illa about Allah Allah in a half hour Allah kumada Yami Mahi. I fear for you a day that will encompass you all the other job of such a day.
I call me our full nicaea Allah will Nisa bill tasty and my people he admonishes them. He tells them give informed measure the people of muddy and the people of Hawaii, they were traders. What they used to do they used to cheat in trading is to cheat they used to cheat so he tells him give full measure.
When other personas are here, do not withhold people's things from them.
When at autofill are the most serene, do not spread mischief in this earth. Bucky Atala highroller come in quantum meaning, once you hit people, they hack, if you give them they happen, something remains your risk remains that risk which remains with you that is better for you. If you indeed have a man, that is the meaning of bacteria to lie on Lacan in quantum meaning, but you remove it from its context, then bacteria tola, that person whom Allah Allah kept for you one side in some strange dimension, to keep the world alive. It's by removing IR from his context that much of the harm has been done. So this is his platform, his context is given to a youngster, that youngster as
we said before, his last study of Islam was when he perhaps read the second Jews or the second part of your signal Koran suddenly
Given this idea from the Quran he doesn't know left is has no right. He doesn't know which way to turn all that he sees this idea with a very very
clearly
orchestrated meaning attached to it. There's the eye you can see for yourself. He looks at it he doesn't understand the idea before it. He doesn't understand the idea often he he just sees this particular idea much of what the spirit of Shiism is all about in countries such as our our own, his texts taken completely out of context. So that's the first lesson any idea that's given has to fit into a context, because why does it fit into a context because of coherence? What's meaning What's the meaning of coherence? coherence is a bit of a big word for some people. translated into Afrikaans makes it much easier to to understand. sama hung and Allah has hung some, there is a
connection. Allah tala speaks you and I speak as well. In one sentence, we don't don't jump from one topic to the other. One sentence in order to make sense has to contain a subject and a predicate, and the subject must be related to the predicate in a reasonable and sensible way. Then it makes sense then it's a proper sentence. Otherwise it will just be practical and babble. Allah, Allah does not prattle Allah Allah does not dabble a lot on his words are full of hikma, a lot of us words is full of truth. Allah tala, his words are coherent. So within the words of the Quran, there is this internal coherence that we must look for when we attach meaning to any particular hire. That is why
an IRA has to be contextualized. In the text of the Quran, where it stands. Now we come to our IRA. That was the first lesson that we had to learn. The second lesson will be the manner in which we use a hadith to elicit meaning out of the Quran. But let's go for the first one now, the first lesson is about contextualization. The second one is interaction between Quran and Hadith. We go for the first one. The first one says,
look at the context of this idea. In Namah Wadi yo como la hora Soto, your one is only online is the soul and those believers who make salah and give Zakat and they go into ruco. If you want to understand the context of the Quran, let's move a few is back to the passage starts from where does the passage start?
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Oh you will believe do not take the houden in Asara as yo Leah, this community must have internal solidarity amongst itself. This community must rely upon itself brother relies upon brother for this community to stand do not rely upon people from the outside. They are not the only they are the only one another one a human can find a woman whom anyone who has a reliable relationship with a golf in unstable instead of a movement. He would just as well as that is one of the coffee's in Allah Allah do cannavale mean? So what is the mandala speaking of here he's speaking of this community where Mrs. Villa Joby where mercy solidarity be found. Where does that mutual there is a relationship of
reliably found between movement and movement
and what would happen? What would happen if there is no such relyea then, if there are those who would turn away from this deem
skipping on to a lot of the dances Yeah, Johann larina Manu, my author Danny Kahneman, Dini, who anyone who turns his back on this Dean becomes immortal. For some via Tila movie Tommy Bahama. Yo hi buena.
Very, very soon Allah is going to bring a group of people.
A lot on is going to bring a group of people if apostasy happens in this oma and people find that we lie outside you Hi boom Are you Hi Bona that people will be such. Allah loves them and they love him.
The Latina mini in the eyes adenylyl cavalry in between them meaning they are meek and humble. But against the curfew. They are severe and staunch yujia he don't have he studied the law when I met him. They made jihad in the path of Allah tala they fear not the reproach of anyone who reproach them.
Then he can have no money or D
one love although the family lavi him that is a lot of grace which he gives to everyone. So a lot of us grace is Most Great. And then what's the next ayat after that? In nnamani, como la hora solo. Now allowed Allah says, Your Wali, your true the person with whom you should every layer is not those cofounder of there it is
line is our soul in the morning at noon, tied into the first if you
don't live the yahuda nosara Veolia homeless Veolia in Nevada yo Camila yo Mila your relationship is what Allah wa rasuluh one Levine Manu and the entire community of Muslim believers
want to hire thereafter again a lot of that goes on. In other words, the line is drawn between who is a line drawn between Rasulullah sallallahu Sallam Ali and the moon Alpha team know the line is drawn between the Muslim community in the Garfield community. Yeah, Johar Levine, Manu, Lata
takato Dena Khan, who's who?
Don't take those as your only who makes who make take your deen as a matter of fun will make fun of your deen, who are those mean? And Marina O'Toole Kitab amin Copley kumoko file, the Annunaki tobacco farm now we know exactly what that means when he says your will is only a man is rhassoul.
I want to go back to the iron which Allah tala speaks about raida. And I want to show that by using this particular idea of wilaya out of context, the shiai have pulled wool over our eyes in a very, very big way. And they've made us overlook the PURPORT In the meaning of this particular idea. This idea makes some very, very important statements that I just before that a lot of them makes a warning. A lot of sounds a warning, if anyone becomes more 30 in this woman, he says, you wondering I'm on my third domain comandi for Sophia Tila will be combing your hair boom Are you Hi Bona. Allah will bring such people now listen how a lot of us crabs, these people, what are they like Allah
loves them. They love Allah yuja he doesn't have he studied Isla as in Latin, meaning artisanal coffee. They are made to the belief that they are harsh against unbeliever, these peoples a man he stands is in very high standing there Lord Allah yuja he doesn't have he studied ILA, they make it Yeah. And they don't care what anyone says about them. What are your half una domitilla him? Who are these people? That's the big question.
Did read the aka in this oma?
Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam closes his eyes.
leaves this world the past 23 years of struggle is over.
And immediately around the Arabian Peninsula they tried to start saying well, while Muhammad was alive we would have followed right now. clinic Anthony. There are those who will say yes, Salah we will make bazooka we won't.
How will scale day light apostasy is taking place. Only Medina only Medina stands firm against this entire tidal wave of Apostasy. who stands up who is that person who Allah Allah will bring who is what you hate, boom Are you a bona that Allah loves them and they love him, that they are made to believe as in harsh against unbelievers, that in their making of jihad they cannot for the reproach of any reproach. If that is that anyone but Whoa, Abubakar, acidic or the allowance Ahava, these are the people who a lot Allah speaks about a lot. I said what for Sophia Tila. Now whether you speak shiai Arabic or you speak Sunni Arabic. The word sofa means one thing only. The word sofa means
very, very, very soon This will happen. It won't be a matter of delay.
In only a matter of delay the moment that read the happens, Allah is going to send this people that read the happen history is witness to the fact that this easily happen. And it is shown that who was the man who saved the day for Islam there. It was Abubakar Siddique Ravi Allahu anhu. The idea that in which allowed other indicates the Fabiola boubakeur indicates a high status of unwelcome practice. Everything showed but naming his name. This is a person says Allah enters the harbor with him, that Allah loves them, and they love him. This is a group of people are the Latin meaning is nothing other than coffee and they are made to believers. What about this entire story of attacking
the house of Fatima and hurting the unknown by it doesn't fit in with this idea. This is says this group of Sahaba is what are the Latina meaning and as the co founder of the no relenting no acceptance whatsoever, not they do not give quota against any of these co founders, then a Jihad and in the making of jihad they cannot fought anyone would say, this idea, this entire passage here.
Instead of being an idea that the car could use for their particular purposes, it's something which indicates to us that the highest status of Abu Bakr Siddiq Ravi Amano on top of the yellow on the mohajirs and the unsought on the rest of the Sahaba. So how did this idea come?
To be a proof for the shear
This is the second part of the lesson.
The first part of the lesson contextualized idea you will realize whether is going to
How did it happen that this idea came to be read as alumna Vitaly that your one is only Allah and His soul and the authority of Allah comes to the Rasool the authority of the rasuna goes to Annie and a lot of our calls Olivet Alina Yuki Masato Tanaka Morocco, he calls him those people who make salah and who those people who gives aka and they go into record.
The reason for such interpretation first of all is rooted in what we saw last week. What did we see last week the entire Quran gives no credibility, no foundation whatsoever for the concept of Imam it has to be scratched out of some iron some of the other you have to go and scrape the barrel to find something that some of the other would produce a foundation for imama. So they found this I saw around this I then started what forgery of ahaadeeth Now, what is Hades? Hades are the words of Allah sallallahu wasallam. But not everything ascribed to Rasulullah sallallahu wasallam is necessarily an authentic hadith. That's what we have to learn now. Not everything that he said Carla
Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam he is necessarily heard, if not everything written into her the book is necessarily a hadith either, for that reason, we had Eve has to be subjected to a scrutiny to a very critical methodology in order to ascertain whether this is in fact authentic, or whether it is not authentic.
Many of those who would have had exposure to books of this year, in which they tell them if you go to this page of that particular book, then you will see this I avail this howdy there. Last week of our lesson of last week, a brother came up to me, he says, but you get consumed as Danny bukas Anoma the names of the books were written there. And these also many books. I got several questions on that. Rather, how would you know, Sunni book from a Shia book?
How would you know when the book is written by a Sunni when a book is written by a CA, this is something which scholars that study for many, many years can still make mistakes on. Not everyone has seen every book that is a very highly specialized field. So when you find these books, giving references to the books of the husana, every name doesn't necessarily mean it has to be checked up. But you know, the writer is banking on something. The author of the book is banking on the fact that you're not going to look why because you generally don't have the access to go and look. Either you lack the language or if you know the language, you don't know the book. If you know the book, then
you don't have access to it. If you have access to it, you might not be able to critically assess it. Therefore these are the various angles from which they take advantage put something in front of you. And the youngster reads a book and he says I saw this from authentic Sunni literature. No. In Islam, we take cognizance first and foremost of the fact that the history of the transmission of Hadith was not divorced from problems. There were problems from day one already. There were people splitting a hadith in the name of Rasulullah sallallahu Sallam from the earliest days already, and even abil Hadid, even abdulhadi researchy scholar and he wrote a commentary on the natural Bahasa
the body which is supposed to be a collection of the statements validly Vitaly, if not really had he writes in this book sharjeel Bulava is that he says the first people to start the forgery of Hadith in the history of Islam or the Shia.
Why did they have to start the forging of Hadith because they needed. They needed proof for their statements. They needed proof What better way to find the truth but project statements right back into the mouth of Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam. Therefore, the whole ama developed a critical methodology. They kept lists of names of all those narrators. They will say this narrator is a reliable narrator. As for that one, he is not reliable. Any narrator of Hadith has to satisfy a number of criteria, he has to be endowed with a certain amount of integrity, he has to thereafter have a certain amount of ability to preserve a hadith until the time of transmission. Each link in
the transmission the chain of transmission of a hadith has to have similar abilities, he has to have this combination of integrity plus ability and then there upon that Hadid has to the chain of transmission has to be uninterrupted from beginning to end. uninterrupted it has to be a complete chain, where each link in the chain heard the heavy from the one above him. He also being a reliable person, the one above and also being a reliable person with that kind of background when I come when I come to this havior in order to the stated somewhat more clearly I will tell you a few years ago 1015 if not more, 20 years ago, the Satanic Verses came out and we all marched against it and we all
had the biggest problems with it because Salman Rushdie was ascribing certain things to Rasulullah sallallahu wasallam, about Satanic Verses. Now he did not start this out of Islam. Where did he get it from some books
From some history books you will look in those history books up to today those transmissions those
narrations are there the reason why we take exception to them is because there might be there but they're not authentic. There are a lot of hardy that are forgeries that Allah know them they know how to differentiate between the weak ones in the strong ones between the false one and authentic ones.
So it's an entire very specialized field where many many fields unfortunately have slipped already with that as background now we come to this particular had it in fact all this is now this is we have seen now in terms of his very wording, there's no mention of olive levy authority by any of the Imams in terms of it can't evolve which context indicates of of the validity, or the intensity of the philosophy of the globe, we allow our know. So how can we take it now out of its context like this and make it refer to something like the Imam of Avalon Bay that we have seen of the 12 imams it is by creating a new context, take him out of his own context and creating a new context. And the
new context is created as follows. Once upon a time, in the masjid, a beggar came in the beggar asked around no one was giving anything I never thought he was standing in Salah he was in loco no one was giving anything so in Roku, he took off his ring and he gave it to this person. Remember insula? Alina up Manasa what you want to know is that God is giving the ring wahoo Morocco and he's making a reward. So that's how this idea came to be connected to say now live Navy volleyball the allow I know now we come to those nations there's nations exist, and they exist in books which by and large belong to the husana Yes, but not everything in there is authentic. Before we come to the
detailed scrutiny of those particular a hadith we wish to say one thing first, allow the other fears no one.
Allah Allah doesn't need to speak tongue in cheek. Allah Allah doesn't need to speak in riddles. If a lot of wishes to say
that Mohammed is Maya sold and he says Muhammad Rasul Allah. If Allah tala wishes to say that Allah is the Imam with you said Allah is the man after Mohammed, he didn't say so. It's only by creating new contexts. And by using the bit of leeway that exists in the field of study, that people could create something like this, this particular narration of Allina Vitali being in salah and giving the the ring into the bag in that particular way. There are several narrations throughout the books of the husana it's there, but just being there doesn't necessarily mean that it is correct. The most famous version of that had if it comes in the book as barber knows all of Ottawa heavy as Baba knows
all a book that speaks about circumstances of the revelation of the Quran. How did the idea come down? This book as Robin knows all of of course is in Arabic It has been translated into English as well. It contains
we Hadees it contains the Sunnah of the Hadith which is a chain of transmission as well.
The chain of transmission in this case is extremely revealing was the chain of transmission Hadeeth experts with no I noticed she actually just came in there is a Hadid expert he would know the chain of transmission goes as follows Muhammad number one and Mohammed Nisa able can be on a bizarrely hannity or whatever.
What is this is not like these are just names to the common person this is just names to the Hadith expert he immediately recognizes the Sunnah to be the most notorious and under the face of the earth of the sun on the face of the earth under the sun. So notorious time even getting mixed up in my words.
Mohammed mamajuana suit the Sahil
an open and self confessed liar narrating from an even bigger liar Mohammed ignacia al kalbi narrating from someone who's either ally of similar stage of bigger than even Abbasali has some episodic adequan these three persons mohammadu, Marwan, and his Mohammadi beside
an idea solly and Anika bus, and we saw the honeybee. This senate this chain of transmission has a very, very special name to the Hadid experts. They speak about two kinds of of chain of transmission. The one is the highest level. The best that you can get. Mallika nerve Yaniv me Omar Malik narrating from his teacher nafi hinder us from even Omar or Mohammed Al Jazeera NaVi and JD and Ali is not alone bite. These are the best listeners that you can hear. We call it Silsila to the hub, the chain of gold. This one in front of us is no Silsila. This one is CLC that will carry up the chain of lies. That's what the mohabbatein call it. This is a chain of lies a chain of self
confessed liars create a story which does not conform with the context of the area, which does not conform to what we know about the grandiosity
They have a loudhailer who does not speak in riddles. It can it seeks to create something out of the idea by bringing a hadith of this nature into existence. That is origin of this particular story here.
And from there the story has spread to a number of other sources as well
in the margin, our sort of a Mantovani as well as as Babu sort of Wahidi once again the same story is transmitted this time on the authority of Satan Amar even yourself but when you look at the chain of transmitters now completely unknown entities Silsila to middle Nigeria heal people completely module you don't know. Can we base our Deen on people who don't we don't even know who they are. This is the kind of chains of transmission upon which a story such as this has been based, then we go elsewhere. A similar story is transmitted in the Tafseer of Eben murder ye a book that's not even existing any longer in the Tafseer Have you been marked the way a heartbeat like this is transmitted
from Alinea Vitaly, that is not that chain of transmission have a signal Kathy tells us in SFC is once again is weak and suffers from an entire chain of unknown persons. Again, unknown persons our Deen is not based upon the words of unknown persons. Bottom line being look at any of those assignees you will find Not a single one of them is free of defect. Not a single one is free of defects or in clashes with the context. It clashes with the majesty and the power and the fearlessness of our app jela gelato and it does not even satisfy the criteria of authenticity. A similar kind of scenario will play itself off in many other similar ayat where the user had an idea
connected to a Hadeeth us the person in the seat might not know what is authentic, what is not in cases such as that first Allahu Allah Vickery in controllata Allah moon if you don't know if a person comes to you in the street, he tells you take this ball This is very good for every sickness you are suffering from you don't just take it you go to a doctor and ask him Look, he has something it's got something written on it, I don't understand what is it tell me Can I take this or can I not similarly someone comes to you gives an interpretation of the eye of the Quran gives you a hadith or you read in a book somewhere, don't rush into making judgment on that basis as has happened up to
now I just want to quickly something comes to mind again, I saw the article in the paper today and Mashallah chicken farmer smiling very nicely on the photo as well. But that was not the point. The point was it was very very clearly stated in that in that article way that the car not here to propagate, they are not here to propagate they are simply here to be here that not to propagate if they are not here to propagate well anyone please explain to me how come 95 if not 99% of the members of the annual bike ride out there are people who not very long ago belong to our side of the divide, how did they go over they suddenly wake up one day with a dream that I have to go across to
the other side there was some kind of propagation going on, there are those sitting here will be able to know from their own experiences having gone there said Look, I want literature and they were given literature. So most certainly no propagation is going on unabated. And it's for that reason that we come together to educate ourselves about things of this nature. Now it can become quite boring if you're gonna have to take every idea and do a similar kind of analysis here. The person the thiet somebody wants to know is that Hadeeth authentic, who was not authentic, it's an authentic if you want to know the reasons why it is there we can go into the details. As we have gone here
there's even further details in this.
However, this is a situation of these IR these are hardy that we face second higher let's go on to a second higher a second I in this regard here very common is a very well known to the car in Nana ureteral La Jolla and he bancomer Regis Hillel Beatty while you're here on top here, oh hello, buy it oh people of the house. All that a lot Allah wishes to do is to take away the usual heyburn Kumar rich, take all impurity away from you, our household of the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, when you're a healer, contact healer to purify you thoroughly. So on this higher, the Shia will produce several lahardee in this case many of those ahaadeeth authentic
the fact that we say these ones of the IR wilaya not being authentic. In the case of the Iota here where we are now in mid to low Leo the Ramkumar is now many of those a hadith authentic and some of them are not authentic as well.
The is his work in Mr. Yuri Allah. Allah wishes to leave he bang Kumar rizza to take impurity away from you. Hello elbaite Oh, people of the house while you're here, I come out here to purify your authority. Again, let's apply what we've learned in the previous hire. First of all contextualize once we contextualize the hire, let's go a little bit back.
Yeah, a Johan
Navy openly as well as
our Navy Oh profit. Tell your wives in
a dental hire that dunya was iannetta. Father Alena, oma Thank you sir.
And jameelah we're in
our
favor for in Allah Sina teaming Khun Avi, Allah speaking to the wives of Rasulullah sallallahu Sallam and very briefly sending him What do you want? Do you want this dunya when they are Akira yonder dunya take the union go off if you want the option Allah prepared to give you that and then the IRA goes on. Those are the last few out of the 21st years now we go to the 22nd us war my opponent minko Nadella he will also de automall Sania naughty Marathi, what are other than Allah?
Karima Allah, Allah speaks once again to the wives of Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi salam and tells those of them that are obedient a lot of will give them the reward. Yeah, Nisa
be
our wives of the Prophet.
Let's stone Naga Hardin miss
it.
You are unlike any other women. If you have Taqwa, your status unlike any other one
for the foreigner will qualify you
to not speak in softer hearing tones that that person in whose heart there is an illness. He will start having desire. Wah
wah Carnival your take on a lot speaks to only one not to the entire ommaya only speaks to those groups that are honored enough to be Omaha, meaning the mothers of the believers.
And he goes on walk on nafi booty can remain within your houses while ottobre Raja Raja Raja helia till O Allah do not go out of your houses do not Sally forth from your houses like used to happen in the jahir before? What
70 sala de nasaga gives aka were out there know how Rasulullah
and then
in ama you read Allah. Now Allah who is speaking to all along the wives of Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam. In ama you read Allah only your
bite, when you die?
Why does Allah want you to do all of this, turn away from the dunya take the off era, stay within your houses, don't be touched by any impurity. stay within your houses, make Salah give you as a car and be obedient to Allah and His soul. Because Allah wants to take impurity away from you. Allah doesn't want any impurity to attach itself to the wives of Rasulullah sallallahu Harley, you are early he was so happy he was
not finish
was called Namah your love He will you will keep going. I mean,
he was
and our wives of Rasulullah sallallahu wasallam, you are living with him in the house. You are there when the higher the reveal. You hear his words when you speak. Remember those are that will reveal. Remember those words that he spoke in order that you will one day be able to get carried and transmitted on to others after you now you've seen the entire context of the hire.
You've seen the context of the who was being spoken to. Now comes the problem. The problem says and those that know Arabic would know.
When you speak to a group of females, you speak in a particular way. You use a particular kind of verb and you use a particular kind of pronoun. So it is said Karuna was gorna.
That is for specifically a group of females. But when it comes to this particular portion in the middle, in ama you read Allah who kneel he bang comb, that becomes male Why? The Shia tells us because now Allah is not speaking to the wives any longer. Allah is not speaking to the wives any longer is speaking to, to only a specific group of people who is that particular group of people, and how they mentioned the ayat.
or rather the Hadith. They say when that I again Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam called Holly Hassan, Hassan and fathima and he enveloped them in a clock in his house. And he told Allah Allah How will I leave it for him and Homer read savato hironaka Allah This is my alone by it. So take impurity away from them and purify them as well.
There's a difference in the way that we understand. The sheer understanding that she understand is one of incoherence. Allah jumps from one topic to another topic and he goes back to the first topic again, that's incoherent that he irreconcilable with the status of Allahu taala
We're gonna say, look very clearly it was Allah Allah Allah so let me say in there, also Allah, Allah, Allah, Allah is Allah notice that Allah hota, Allah has changed the pronoun, when he changes the pronoun that means there are more people included in the IR now than just the wives alone, there are more people included. Now, Who could that be? He did not know. So he made a do I brought these people together. Therefore he asks, allowed Allah, Allah This is my by so include them as well by him.
So the idea did not jump from one topic to the other, it was speaking to the wives, and then he spoke to the wives and others as well. And then it comes back to the wives alone again, that is coherent, that is in keeping with the majesty in the grand year of the language of the Quran.
There are some versions of the Hadith that will say that almost Allah model the Allah on her was present and she told us Allah sallallahu Sallam I as well and he told me no not you. That's not the correct version of the Hadith that version suffers from a problem in his is not because it very same had it has been transmitted differently. He tells her Auntie Allah hi Have you already upon God in other words, the is already speaking to you. You don't have to stand under the slope you are already included. This is special just to include these few people here. I want these people to be the extra ones that are included in the cya.
We go on from there to something else. Now this is a the the CSA only applies to these but this particular group of people here, and on this basis they claim that the Imams are completely faultless, completely free from any mistake, as soon as faultless as Rasulullah sallallahu wasallam himself was he cannot make a mistake impossible. He is more flawless flawless than even the Pope. He doesn't make a mistake at all. Why? They say Can't you see that the ISS? Allah has taken all impurity away from them and Allah has purified them our first answer will be to What does I say? It speaks to the wives as well if you're going to say these five people are mad assume that they are
infallible they don't even have to say the wives of Rasulullah sallallahu wasallam are infallible as well. And mind you these are not the only people about whom Allah Allah said such things Allah Allah said similar things about another very special group of people with special group of people is that
if you see common wise I'm an atom in Hawaii
a lot of the speaks about the people of battle in solitude and fall when the new house What's the last that slumber that the Buddha he goes into on the battlefield when a lot of us sit down that that Nirmal demorest and then a lot of the same down water upon you were in a zero Allah communism a man liotta Hera combi will use e bang calm reaches a shavon to purify you and take the impurity of shaitaan away from you.
So she I spoke to once he says, Well, that's only water. There's only water to wash it away. My question would be look at the rest of the iron. ore Unibanco Malaysia say shavon Walia or bubala.
With a bit a bit Hill up down with water can do that. Strengthen your heart and make your feet firm on the battlefield. That's just not just water that washes a few bloodstains in a few clouds here and there away. That's a very special water, that water law that I put on to brought down to the people of weather, for which reason to strengthen the hearts upon a man to stand on their feet to stand at the Battle of mother against those, Cofer who was that that was a boubakeur, that was Romar. That was all those other Sahaba the alum who are present them that day and look specifically at what the very same things which Allah Allah said a year about the annual by Allah says Yamato
Sahaba Unibanco militia say upon in the Margarita La Jolla Unibanco Moritz, Utah Hera contact Hera you live in el la says yo Hey welcome as well they stopped here here this is the harbor rigs here there is removal of impurity in this purification on both sides so if this iron surah to Lhasa in Mr. Yuri Allah who live with the bronco Marisa and lb has to mean that the whole beta infallible and therefore they only can be the Imams? Well, that creates a question What about the Sahaba? Why look at one higher and not look at the other one. The Quran is one coherent book while or arnova zero Baba Baba, the Quran is its own base tafsir you want to understand what the Quran says don't take
things out of context. Once again, you can see how something when taken out of context can be given a meaning of its own. When we don't stop them. We say that fine. If it is as you say that this I approached those particular people under the cloak, which is Oh, Ali, Hassan, Hassan and Fatima lovely Ilana that these four people became infallible on account of being present there. How did the rest of the 12 imams become infallible? They will not under the cloak. They might say well, but well they descendants of the people under the cloak. They were many others.
descendants of the people under the cloak as well. They did not only have
eight nine descendants, they had many other descendants they decided to spread all over the world, the children of Hassan the children of her saying how many other How come this infallibility only devolved after Hussein upon his son and only upon his son alone yep What about all the other children of the various Amy moms as well. So some the iiar taking the idea to make it say what the Shia wish to make it so here, it simply doesn't. If you use nothing more than reason, you will notice that it simply cannot fit. It simply cannot fit into the context. It is a meaning superimposed over the higher degree with a meaning it is foreign to the Quran. Why is the foreign to
the Quran? Because the entire concept of the show is foreign to the Quran. The Quran doesn't espouse the concept of the show. The Quran said in alladhina Ferrara codina home waka no she on less than in Hong vishay. Those who split the deen up into little partisan groupings you ohama you have nothing to do with them. This Quran never espouse the idea of small little parties and groupings. This one supporting this one, that one supporting that one. This is absolutely unfounded in the Quran. So if someone wants to come from the outside and apply meaning so they call on you will find that he's always busy fitting his way into the circle, he's super imposing something into a space that doesn't
fit in. Therefore, he will have to make use of various different mechanisms for Genova hardy sometimes, and the contextualization taking the eye out of context. And when our people get exposed to it, they don't know the context. They don't know the proper tafsir they are told Bucky adeleye highroller coming condominium refers to the hidden Maddy not very long there we don't manager behind also refers to the whole bite as we have seen last week. So these two ayat we've taken by way of example, like this in there are many other similar IR, which do not fit into that particular context, we have a long way to go though, after these ayat, we have to look at many, many other
ahaadeeth. And the reason why you have to look at them is so that the first time you get to hear of it has to be here, not out there, when you come across it in a book or when she tells you about it, you come here to be inoculated and then you go out and you can face all of those germs, what are the types of germs they might happen to be. So therefore, we use these particular sessions to acquaint ourselves we looked at these two I like that there are many others apply the same tools that you have seen here today. First, insist upon contextualization, don't just throw
wildly around contextualize the idea. And if you're going to use any Hadith, bring the authenticity of it, and who will prove authenticity, the experts who are who have studied who have acquired the science and the details of this particular science of when nothing is authentic, and when it is not so high, or if they have said up to now is designed
as a slur against any particular person against any particular group. This Dean is allowed on a scene that he has sent to us. And this Dean has suffered a lot of distortion along the course of history. This Dean, our forefathers have many somehow the other to save God to preserve for themselves over the many years. Everything that came up in the past, every fitna that came up, there had to be a response. The older people amongst us might still remember, back in the days of the ledger, I'm about Dean amatola era, there was a little book called The curse giddiness when Haji Abdullah,
those who know it know in those who don't know it, what is this book all about? The end he gave the Dutch Reformed Church his time found and this would have been when in the 50s 40s 60s I don't quite know.
But the Dutch Reformed Church at the time found that these Muslims were an obstacle to us. We want to convert them we cannot make headway. So what did they do? They are out
a little booklet supposedly by a person called Haji Abdullah in which he says you know I was born a Muslim but for this than that, then that in a long story goes I'm no longer Muslim because bulkier than the Euro hallelujah.
At that time, our allameh under the leadership of Shama, they know how to lie Ali and the other Olam at the time, they took up the fight, they took up the cudgels against it today we barely even know that the coziness of Abdullah was ever written because all of us stood up to it once upon a time.
There after came a new fitna, the Baja is game accordionists game. This we will know about we were most of us were born most of us have seen what had happened. fitna comes that Allah stand up they take up cudgels on behalf of Islam. They defend our art either and the fitna goes for a mazurka do filehippo jofa Well I'm mama young found NASA for young because of all the zaba all the scum. Now the scam is being used in the in the sense of what you'll find on top of the the
was in the sea all that phone and I'm saying that because people might misunderstand the direct translation of that Elizabeth is that scum but the scum what happens to the scum it goes it doesn't remain what is come after all, it's how a lot of small little bubbles that the moment he exposed to ages burst open and is gone while I'm young foulness as for that which is of benefit to mankind that remains the cicada has remained it's remained for one to three centuries it will remain from here onwards inshallah, it depends upon what you and I are going to do about it. What you and I are going to do about it? Are we going to get each fitna just come and be a little bit our town, our country,
our part of the oma be a walk over to them? I don't think so. I don't think so. Let those who are taking offense, let those who are taking exception umbrage to the fact that the earth no sooner have come together and our leased lands must, in order, discuss, discuss she hasn't let them take offense. It is not of major concern to us. What the came times in the August will write about us is what we're going to do when you stand in front of a lot of Melissa one day that is our responsibility. Let us be conscious that of at the same time, let us maintain balance in the way that you will go about doing it. We will not go about defaming we will not go about doing the kinds
of things that people will very much want to see out there in order so they can say that we are hooligans we are not hooligans, we are custodians of the Dean of Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa sallam Tawana hamdulillahi Rabbil aalameen
words
to
those pushing down on them about 20 minutes 20 seconds
young man instead of
sitting next to question
number two number two
is a speaker see the relevant people present set
and respectfully
so that the other jamaah listen please go up to the
speaker says there are irrelevant to me. Because remember
when I asked one on one for Lego didn't ask for permission at the same time
Alright, cuz you know what?
The question is
this numbers alone, it comes down with Allah.
According to the Shia, they only mentioned his party in the books.
Like he was 14 in terms of
instead of performing only one vote and
you alim convener computer somehow knows the answer. He knows the answer, but he wants to teach a lesson. He's like the hadith of gibreel when it comes to Rasul Allah, Allah, Allah, and he asked the question, he actually wants you to learn something. So with the salmon Yes, you are correct. There is some discrepancy over the Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi salam in how many daughters there was a year there was a local film, there was a knob and it was fathima rather yellow on one Nigerian but however, we know that something had out of those three daughters, four daughters, only one
was given in marriage to someone from Banu Hashim. The other three were given in marriage to people from Bhanu ommaya
Xena was given in marriage tabula rasa, Norvir,
or Okayama consume. After the first marriage which was not consummated sons of Ebola, they were both given in marriage to sign that off man, even our phone while the alarm on one after the other. Now to us, and also know if I'm fine, that's no problem because it's the guy it's a hobby. This year, I have a major problem because this man is a very, very bad person. I don't say how bad there are some times when I feel that these are things which we cannot even speak in the most. It's so bad it becomes. But anyway, this is a person of the worst possible character. How can also last and Allah listen and give his daughters to him, one after the other Okayama confirm. Therefore, faced with
this problem, they were those of them. And again, I would not generalize and say all of them because all of them don't even know that this is very enabled. They say that these three weren't the daughters of Rasulullah sallallahu wasallam, only Fatima was his daughter. Roca was not his daughter omocha was not his daughter.
And Xena was not his daughter. Now if you say that to a common person in the street, he will take offense. This is not any common person. This is our assault sallallahu wasallam
Should we do the ladies?
I just want to ask one question.
You mentioned something about the Sheila's actually making me happy
in my
coffee, how capable are those of you that that you are using?
I wish I can answer that question in five minutes. But something like three four hours will be more suited to inshallah I hope to have a complete session about the hadith of this year alone in one line, not very credible, not very credible.
Originally, when Colonia wrote his book, he claimed that everything in it was aboveboard, he claimed and he died in the year 327 328. After the hegira many many years later in the safavid era, something like a centuries after him that he has submitted to scrutiny with their new principles. They found that some 60 to 70% of what's in there is not authentic. And these days are more studies are going on and whenever they get nailed down to we tell them well this is in El kaffee of Colonia they say well but that's not authentic so there's a huge problem authenticity the reasons behind it inshallah hope to sketch out to you a very very clearly in a future lesson inshallah you push on the
lady side.
Any other gentlemen any questions
with Bolinas experience dealing with different issues will
be facing the shears who are converting this image could also have
to do with the beauty of sometimes also, we take producing good is not the content and becoming a more traditional MBA, therefore making it easier for the shears or any other group converting them to, to what code and the conclusion that the question is, if someone had to openly say that three bonds are legitimate, and ascribing to what would that person need to be able to do?
any compromise on standards of authenticity, any compromise on standards of authenticity of Hadeeth and bringing into circulation, an authentic hadith and forgery is bound to bring about a certain
upsetting the applecart is going to have a
domino effect lead to certain other things. So the point being that, as far as possible, try to stick to what is authentic, try not to go to anything unauthentic, various different groups across the board will use or compromise authenticity, it should not be done is going to have our ad, it's not an phenomenon restricted to the car alone, however, the car used in a very particular way, they do it in a very
specific manner. So in their case, I think we are
we have to be more on our guard than anyone else. The others do it as well. Not to the same level. The second part, that is a very, very controversial question, which I've made it a principle here that we will not go to the issue, whether the Shia are Muslim or non Muslim. All that I will say here is this, that what takes a person out of the fold of Islam, what takes a person after the fold of Islam is in karma? Who am I alone? Mina Dean, the borrower, when a person rejects denies anything, which is categorically an undeniably part of the in. Now, what exactly is that that's probably a complete other lesson to identify exactly what are the categorical aspects of Deena which
are not the categorical aspects, but that's more or less what it comes down to some of the things that that she I do cross that limit, some of the ones who do not cross the limit, not every she crosses the limit? Not everyone never crosses the limit either. So the answer is very, very
complicated, sophisticated, we're not going to go there, not now.
At some point or the other, I think people will start getting an idea of exactly where the discrepancies lie, which he has, but we're not going to go to that question perhaps at a later date.
Doesn't have to obviously
because
otherwise
Ronnie
is the heartbeat of America. Yes, it is containing margin all sorts of top Ronnie from America, BSL and hardeeville is not of the head, it contains an entire series of unknown persons.
Does it answer the question?
You can be unreliable, unreliable.
That's my thought on this
school
gardens
will not be I didn't quite get the comments in one question that comes up constantly to question
why I didn't purchase in terms of the I am waiting to be one year and be our mentors, we should be against the company.
And we had to subdue the humble towards the wisdom required
in your responses to reference you on the mean the num of the ions on your responses. And then the second issue is that we cannot be naive to think that the regions of Africa have been reached recently to be doing something controversial, and other times not going to blow up the particular matter of the complete abortion, even considered that, in fact, it was yourself
was quoted in the
title. It's a waste of all. Now, we can almost predict, given the history of medium for Africa, that that is the one line that will probably be blown out of proportion, amongst any. So I think we should just be cautious about that. And not be naive to think that they're not going to use that which is the only other good thing is that.
If they're coming back to me, if I put you in doubt, is the issue around.
You keep on making reference to it being the expert, the expert, if it's a medical issue must be adopted. And again, I'm just gonna repeat my question. Is it not prudent
to bring somebody from issues from reading
and that person will
be in a position and we can criticize the veracity of whatever has been said
by the expert results?
We can either review or he or she can.
The first thing that is sort of minor is number 54. I think the Latina mean, visiting alkaff. Hearing.
The comment about the newspaper? Yes, comments like this had been made, not just now, there has been made for many years. But Has anyone noticed how often the MTC has been in the papers of isn't there someone going out there and telling the papers this? years ago, these comments were made, no one was running to the papers. But for some reason or the other. The MDC is making an appearance in the paper every second day. If it's not a fact word, and it's fun, it's not fun Next, I think next will perhaps be the chickens again. So I think there is a need for responsibility on the side of those present here. Our fights, our fights, our issues or our issues. Does every Tom, Dick and Harry on
the scene out there need to know that what you're gonna find out about the car? I mean, there are Catholics out there, there are Protestants out there they are Jews and Hindus and atheists. Do they really need to see all our dirty washing? I think the problem lies not in the statement that she had found might there have been much more inflammatory statements made not just here, but individually as well. Those weren't even taken to the to the papers, but there are people with an agenda. Now those people with an agenda have to take note of the brothers comment. Very good comment, but it needs to go around a bit more. Then the other side, same question, same response.
This is not a debate.
debates for 1000 years I have not solved this problem. Because in debate, you'll find what they call circumlocution. Big word means beat around the bush. You say I say you say I say it doesn't. I've been in debate situations before. I've read debate literature's before. It doesn't really solve any kind of problem. And I'll tell you another thing, brother, with all due respect to recently there was a spate an issue at UCD the annual date foundation gave out a pamphlet, a pamphlet, which was absolutely must representing what's in the books of this year. Absolutely must be said.
I'm making a statement that none of the all of the she had ever questioned authenticity of the Quran, one of the four sources which he quotes, I opened the book in front of me I said but yeah, the very book is saying it the very thing which you are saying he's not saying he's saying it. Few years ago I had a debate and in that debate the person upon on the other side, I offered by stuck the she I don't believe in the in the interpolation of the Quran. So he had a copy of a certain tafsir with him is that I've seen of Abdullah shabar I asked him
please may I have that copy? He says your special gift for you heavy? I think they put on I take it home that tafsir I take it home, I open to the idea quantum Hira Martin. And he tells me that no, that are low birth rate this idea quantum higher. Imagine
you were just telling me now that this is not the case, the very book that with your own hand you gave me So unfortunately, bluster and circumlocution are the kinds of problems that we face. If you're going to have a car sitting next to us right now. We've been that road before. Unfortunately, it doesn't, if you really want to try it out. I have tried it. I don't see how it can work. And as long as atheists can go on teaching theology at university, I think I as a person. While I was lucky, I was lucky enough saved. But I as a person who has spent something close up to two decades studying she hasn't, I think I've got some little kind of right to sit here today.
She, indeed a ocean of knowledge,
which allows us to continue to benefit from the ocean of wealth that you like give us
there are a few questions from our sisters. The first is why were the daughters not included under the clock. The daughters, the other Daughters of Rasulullah sallallahu Sallam all passed away in his lifetime. By the time the incident of the clock happened, they had they had passed away already. And they none of them left any descendants.
So it was only 14 mother only daughter that was left the others. The first note, I think the one pathway already at the time of a brother that was early in the history of the other one passed away not long thereafter. So all of them passed away by that time. The next question was, Why was it necessary was an alien while we had to go to backlog with a decent disagreement?
In our first lesson, I think we made some reference to this but these historical issues are going to form the topic of an entire separate the discussion in shallow deliberation in future. We'll get into the details of that. We have a third question from the side of the sisters How do we ensure that ahaadeeth are authentic? There is a methodology those who can study it those who know it apply those who don't know me as those who know
Lola I just wanted to mention a third one of the brothers mentioned that we need to get one of the experts of the CIA here I think that perhaps this weekend and that will give us
the conversion of a member of the Council now they don't be the experts.
Why should we invite one of these
I think we need to speak today
This was
without sugar that great minds think alike. That's exactly what I said last week.
And then the lady side in the front
doesn't comment
regarding the comment of the unknown part or I don't know you're not defending yourself and I think you're not gonna say something about it something about it because it does matter. Nobody ever said no to you. And there's a quotation coming from some way that says that we are on the warpath in some way. So you're not gonna rectify this now tonight will always be the so I don't know you're caught up in your sleep.
or some way but I've been here for the full five days and there's been been going on in no way. If anybody in from the GMA conference or anything like that. I have consulted with us You don't mind that.
They said don't skip
the question.
I'm supposed to deny the time Shouldn't you two questions and one coming from anybody else?
Anybody else?
Okay.
Have you ever between jobs?
Right? No, no, no.
No problem, sir.
What did I hit me up a comment monitoring your submission. There are kids that are completely out of the home
inside the country.
People
insisting to department boxes of the agency's
restaurant to get nice for the ones that better would rehabilitate those that are closer to the center? Or are we distracted today, throughout the educational seminar, the healthier, the complete opposite, and never, ever have the ideal human emotion to embrace them. And the reason why I'm getting asked
is we've made
and, and God
allowed us guidance to really understand that we are not in a Pakistan,
if not in Iraq.
And sometimes we just want to make one example that the leaders may be able to have the tenacity and the willingness to speak to one, perhaps a very high level, maybe at university, maybe at some other institution.
And the one example that you must
watch is that when a hedge fund manager
was assassinated, based on so called veterans,
and during the investigation, when they questioned the requirement, he said, No, I didn't assassinated in late investigation, he said, but maybe my speeches may have to cite the others. And my father was done to make that decision. Think that's
really what his passion is about, to not and to avoid some of the choices. And again, a lot of
Pakistanis
will take close to what you're saying, today. Start with the beginning. She
has encapsulated well, already, I will just be reiterating what he said. But, you know, it's always we have to understand that it's never the other side. Has anyone taken the trouble to go to the bait foundation and ask them that look? Could you stop the propagation? Could you? Why is it that there are so many missions from Iran operating not only in South Africa, all over the Sunni world? You go to East Africa, you go to West Africa, Europe, North Africa, Egypt has a problem. Palestine, suddenly, a few years ago also had a problem. Bosnia, which never had any Sunni and Shia. After the war, suddenly there was some kind of problem happening there. I think, if the slogans of the
revolution were true, lushy, Walla, Sunni, there's no such thing as a she no such thing as a Sunni. And we are all just brothers and believers. How come the one hand that feeds that slogan, the other hand feeds the other missions that operate in these countries of ours? Why does it happen? The only reason why we are upset is because we see our own children, our own brothers, our own mother's father's, we are seeing them convert to Shiism. And then when we read history, we see that we're ever Sunnis and Shias exist together. It has never been free from tension, who is introducing the tension here. We had enough tension as it is with the moon, we add enough tension as it is what the
before that we add enough tension with whatever the issues might be, was it necessary for this year to come propagating? If a person today goes to the Annenberg Foundation, and says I want to become a CA and they tell him brother, you're assuming you're a Muslim, you don't need to become a CA. Then they have had a few 100 adherence today, but they haven't been doing that. Any new one comes they will convert him, they will convert him. There is an imbalance that's been created. That imbalance wasn't created wasn't created by sheer fun. That wasn't created but the MJC the MDC was prepared to embrace once upon a time, like the International Union of scholars of Allah was prepared to embrace
until they found that while we are embracing
propagation and proselytization and conversions are going on, so that is where the balance is being upset. We are responding today. We are responding because exactly the reasons that you outlining the it's in no one's interest, that she hasn't spreads