Traditional Islam Vs. Modernism

Muhammad ibn Adam al-Kawthari


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The speakers discuss the importance of finding out who is a Marlin and the history of Islam and modernity, including the use of teaching messages and finding out who is a Marlin. They stress the need for students to stick to traditional Islam and explain their beliefs in a modern way. The conversation also touches on the cultural and political dynamics of the United States, including the prevalence of women having a disproportionate representation in the media and the importance of women in society, including their representation in media. The segment ends with a statement from the host thanking guests for their time.

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hamdulillah Alameen wa sallahu wa salam ala Sayidina Muhammad Ali he was like to hear tomorrow he

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will either call him interview

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allowed them

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to find out the Marlin was even

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Subhanak Allahu Allah

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along and helped to have Congress open a T bar arena while played above the number of

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prospective brothers, and also sisters this Salam or Aleikum, wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatuh.

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It's a honor and a privilege and hamdulillah to be

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here in your beautiful town city. I don't know what slough is,

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or a village now.

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Once again, I've been here many times before, but it's been a long time. I think before I was this Masjid

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many, many years before I just met a brother. As I was coming out on the car, he said, I hosted you in one of the messages here 20 years ago

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in slum, that one of the other messages, I gave a talk.

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And then he said to me that you look the same as you looked at 20 years ago.

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So it's 100 i It's a privilege honor to be here. I would like to thank the organizers, the Imams of the masjid responsible people

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and also all of you for taking out your precious that inshallah beneficial time, hopefully, for the for the next hour. So

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we have a very, very important topic that I want to talk about. And you must have seen the poster the flyer,

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the title that heading off the topic,

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which is a very, very important topic and requires a very thorough deep understanding. Focus, I know it's warm, but we're going to talk about the after that we need the after of the people to understand.

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So a lot of focus is showing love without

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the heading title. And you have to find some way.

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You have to find you give them the posters,

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traditional Islam versus

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What is this title?

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Is there a clash between traditional Islam? What is first and foremost? What is traditional Islam

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What is traditional Islam?

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And what is modernism?

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And is there a clash between the two?

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Is there a conflict? Does traditional Islam go against modernity and modernism and modern things that we find? And what's the definition of modernism? And this is what we need to understand.

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If you look at the word traditional Islam, the word in English is a traditional, traditional means. It's a tradition, something that's been ongoing, classical old idea, something that started 14 145 years ago, in the time of the messenger, some Allah or you said and we are in the year 1444. Right now, Mahara is the month, if you forget, what's the date today?

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What's the date of May 29 2009?

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Well, maybe, I don't know. It could be one day difference, the date wherever you are.

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So the teachings that came

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and that was sent by Allah subhanho wa Taala 14 145 years ago, those teachings in the form of walking revelation through the Quran and through the Sunnah, because remember, we have both of them through revelation. This is what Quran is called, where he left the loop from the word till now. It is the recited way in Salah, the Imam reciting Quran so it's a recited

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Hadith and Sunnah of the messenger sallallahu alayhi wa sallam is also considered to be working, but it's widely available to non recited which means we do read it but it's not recited

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in Salah, the Imam couldn't start the Salah and say Allah woke up in the middle of India join them at equilibrium an hour. You have to read the Quran. But both of them are watching revelation from Allah subhanho wa taala. So, the teachings that was sent by Allah subhanahu Adan in the form of the Quran and Sunnah

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through working revelation,

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classically traditional,

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which is for all of times until your work beyond because we have to remember when we say Allah subhanho wa Taala is sending some guidelines, some rules and regulations, some injunctions, some teachings, some guidance for humanity for mankind. Allah is not like us, I will the biller. Allah is it will leave there's no past, present future for Allah. All these past present future and yesterday and tomorrow and the next day and when I'm old and if back in the day and you know in ATS time, this is all for us from Allah, everything is one there is no era there is no mowdy card will stop will past present future for Allah, Allah is Seeing everything. So when Allah is sending guidance, it is

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until your will piano Allah saw today as Allah, Allah knew about the situation we will be when we have the mobile phone and the internet and all the different modern things. So this is what we call traditional Islam. The guidance given by Allah subhanaw taala the knows the rules and regulations that injunctions the teachings sent by Allah subhanho wa Taala through Revelation watching onto his beloved messenger, Muhammad Sallallahu taala, it was Sunday.

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That's the meaning of traditionalism. And modernism is basically something which people bring new, as opposed to old. So something today modern might become old after 40 years.

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When the car first came into the world,

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that was what it is in that era.

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Have you researched when the car which year the car was manufactured and came into existence, and 120 years ago, around World War time, just before that, before the Second World War?

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The plane when did the plane coming into existence? So that was modernism, new ideas, new thoughts, new theories, new concepts, technology.

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Remember, we used to live in a time we have to tell our younger people I tell my son, who's 13 years old, that we lived in a time when we never used to have this.

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They can't imagine you know, we'll soon we will have human species that will think Oh, back in the day, people actually lived without a smartphone. Back in the Dark Ages.

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You know, I take my son sometimes to a telephone box, do you have those old red ones here.

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This is what we used to use. If I got stuck or somewhere I had to go in there and take the 10 P coin and put it in and phone home. I'm stuck in the middle of somewhere walked, please come and pick me up my car's broken down.

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smartphone in the there's no phone in the hand.

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We've actually in our lifetime, many of us will live to minimize youth was when we never had. We never had the internet, many of you I can see faces. We have no internet in our life. We have experienced two revolutions in our life.

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Some people in their life, if you experience one revolution, that's a massive thing. We've experienced two revolutions.

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The first revolution massive revolution was the advent of the of the internet around 1995 97. And probably towards the end of the 1900s. You know, 2001 2002 that's when really I remember I made my first email when I was studying in Syria back in 2001.

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There used to be internet cafes and just about understood, oh, there's a new thing called you go onto your computer because before that just computers were being used just to type before that was typewriters. So you could use typewriters.

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And the fax machine. I'm sure the fax machines have gone completely out of existence. It's life is moving fast. So that was the first revolution. And then the second the smartphone

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around 2000 I don't know seven eight.

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I remember I used to have that small Nokia

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brick massive brick then the small first I bought a small Nokia phone and I have a habit I don't know if it's a good habit or a bad habit. I always do something late when everyone's gone to it for

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Yeah, then I, I everyone was on iPhone and whatever and I just carried on, when for a year or two years people are using it and I bought my first iPhone, when people aren't iphone four, I'll go into three, when they go into five, then I'll go into four, I just like to be one year behind. What in technology? Just if there's any problems, let them suffer it, and then I'll see the problems.

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this is the second revolution. So basically, modernism, is all of this new technology, modern theories ideas.

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Is there a conflict between traditional teachings and Islamic teachings, which was sent 14 145 44 years ago, to modern times whenever that era is? Is there a crash? And that's that's the question. And that's what we need to

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modernize. modernism is basically the desire to bring new things into the world.

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And Islam doesn't go against modernism, this is natural, it's a filter, without modernism, without the desire without the want and the desire of the human being, to

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manufacture new or new things, and research new things. This, this led us to move from stones to atomic bombs. This led us from camels and horses to claim that cause this led us to lamps and

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candles, to top level lights, this is this, this is

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the result of the human desire for what it is. And therefore Islam does not go

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in essence, against this desire to create, to be innovative to modernism in general. In itself, modernism is not a bad or a good thing. It's not good because it's modern is well it could be good rather, Islam acknowledges it, if you can look into seer of the messenger sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, even in that time, in the reservoir of conduct, when the messenger conduct with the

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Never in warfare, they use that tactic that was the first time it was upon the recommendation of Salman and Foxy was some companions and the Allah one from the messenger Salallahu incident sent some companions to other countries to learn their languages, not just to learn the languages, but to learn certain warfare tactics and also you know, certain things how to combat the messenger sallallahu alayhi wa sallam he mentioned in the hadith of Buhari, he actually praised the first military expedition that will go on the sea.

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Like they are on thrones like kings on thrones, because in the terms of the messengers of Allah, when you listen to me, it was virtually impossible for anyone to get to the seat.

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And he actually predicted this long had eaten because there's no time for it, but the messenger SallAllahu wasallam was once reclining, resting, sleeping, and then he had a smile on his face. And when he woke up when he was asked, What made him smile, he said, I saw Allah made me see people of my own mother,

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on the ship, on boats, on a military expedition, and that tiny was unheard of. And this came

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this particular prediction or the forecast on the messenger SallAllahu Sallam came into existence in the time of birth mom or your loved one when he was a Khalifa. So you do not know are we or are they a loved one who was the first commander upon instruction of citronella of murder, the loved one who, who took his army and the Muslims. They went on a military expedition by sea, and this is where they went into Cyprus. If you've been to Cyprus, I was in Cyprus, two, three years ago, that was Cyprus as part of Europe. That's the first place that Islam entered in Europe was Cyprus.

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This is where Islam came into Europe through Cyprus. And that was through season and where are we at the bottom we actually went to a place the graves of certain Sahaba or the Allah or anymore buried and Martin and Lucia he, in Cyprus, there is a female companion, omo haram been Tamil Hana the Allahu anha.

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Who the Messenger of Allah who was the one who asked the messenger Salallahu Alaihe Salam about this and the Messenger of Allah or Islam told her that this will happen. And she went, she said to messenger of Allah make dua for me that Allah make me part of this because he, there was a lot of felida for them. I don't have time for this, but this is just on the side. And the messenger sallallahu alayhi salam said, Yes, you will be off them. And she was of them and she passed away and she was buried there and they've actually built a small Masjid next to where she is buried and we went there as well we

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in Cyprus. So anyway, the messenger SallAllahu answered me

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couraged modernism

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to an extent so it's not something that just because it's good sometimes you know, some of us, we have this thing in our head, anything new, this is psychological, anything new, we just want to reject it because it's new.

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You might say, I'm the same as all anything new, I'm going when you're late. It's not because it's bad. It's just. But this is what happens sometimes that people sometimes just feel negative towards anything new just because it is new. And this is not the teachings of Islam.

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Islam doesn't go against

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innovation. I'm not talking about the Islamic innovation, innovation in the world, anything new modern technology, Islam encourages technology. If you look at our history, the greatest scientists and all other fields that were Muslims, they introduced new things into the world, technology, and many, many of our great people classical. So Islam doesn't

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discourage or go against modernity or modernism, or technology or progression. That's you have to have progression. Some of them is to say that men, whoever's two days are similar for hormone moon, man is still a young man, it's the way your mom was born. If your every two days are equal, you haven't progressed, the next day in your life. You are you are in last humans mentally, psychologically, through the knowledge to the fourth, we progress. So Islam doesn't go against modernism,

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per se. But there's a big question here.

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Islam encourages, like I said,

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but this modernism

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and this desire to manufacture great things, brought a lot of convenience to the to humanity. At the same time,

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this modernism is a double edged sword.

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On one hand, it brought a lot of good and good and benefiting humanity.

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But on the other hand, they say, modernism, will destruction to the earth,

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cause chaos and energy.

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Why to get some basic moral human, you know, ethics, made human beings go into the lives of animals.

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Because when they, everything is new, modern, we want a lot, there are many, many examples for this. On one hand, it gave benefit to humanity. On the other hand, it caused destruction to humanity.

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So what type of modernism is good? What's the criteria? That's the question, and that's what I want to answer. Because modernism is not good or bad in itself.

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It depends what type of modernism, some people might say, more than assumed, like is basically, you know, life has moved, people have changed. Back in the day, people didn't understand the roles role of men and women. Today, the role of men and women has changed modernism

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sexuality, people think, Oh, back in the day, can you understand gender roles back in the day, it was the dark ages now modernism is, you know, it's more child and five years old, let him choose if he wants to be a boy or a girl, or a transsexual, or a transvestite or whatever. This is what it is.

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All sorts of things. And I will give you some of these examples. Time is very short. Subhanallah This is a very important topic. I want to talk about all of these issues. Really, this was like an introduction to be honest.

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So it brought a lot of distraction to humanity, basic moral ethics. Human beings became like animals, people, you know, the great Pharaohs came because of modernism, they thought this is their progression that they want to just go progress, progress, progress, and they think they got killed everybody and everyone. The atomic bomb was more than somebody killed millions and millions of people in Japan and wherever Hiroshima and Nagasaki, it's modernism. So modernism can bring bad evil in the world as well. It can also bring positivity. So how do we define what is good modernism and what is bad?

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Now there's only two ways what is the criteria?

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There's only two ways.

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One way one method which is now in majority of the non Muslims and this is what's the criteria.

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The criteria is reasonable, aka the brain

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A person or a society or a community is devoid of divine revelation of guidance,

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then the criteria for everything on planet earth becomes,

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you know, this occurred inside this brain. You want to call it reason, intelligence or probably not even intelligence today, it's ignorance. Half the people have mental health issues.

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I call is considered to be the criteria for every good or bad thing today.

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And today

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Afghan people have given the reason human reasons so much importance that our culture has become divine. It is the God

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you know, the people who say we don't believe in God, atheism,

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they do believe in God,

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who is the god each person each atheist is a God Himself.

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Pharaoh used to say hon common Allah I am God which means what? What I think what I think is correct is correct, what I think is bad, whether it makes sense to you or not, it makes sense to me. If I think this is right, this is right. No right for you to question. If I think it should be like this, it has to be like this sense is only in my sense,

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sense is only my sense.

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And this is what atheism has done. This is what modernism has done to a lot of people. Because everything is based on icon, which is created by God.

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Human reason, human and sense. Rationalism, I don't know, even if it's rational, but we say rationalism.

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And this has always been classically as well. In the earlier times, we had Martin Zilla, there was a group called martyrs era, you might have heard of martyrs, where they used to prefer their internet. Remember, you know when we say they used to prefer upper upper there?

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Because, you know, people think after this country, there's only one reason right now in this room that how many people that are above 100 People that are 100, apples 100 reasons.

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As many human beings as many differences of opinions, it's not divined there was not one of the martyrs either. They thought that there was the best out

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there reason is the best reason it makes sense. There's different types of people classically that came into existence in the name of modernism, because the whole criteria for everything was upon reasoning. They thought wisdom is in what they think.

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Whereas the Quran says Allah subhanaw taala said, whether the bars have no meaning or pseudo meaning and fusi him yet to do it him if he was a key while you're unable to get out about what

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it is Allah who sent the message and Mohamed Salah on your son, as a prophet, what are the roles and the job? Description of Allah's Messenger sallallahu alayhi wa sallam he had to know I like him if he recites the book, he teaches you how to read the Quran. While you are live on Makita with the recitation of the book, it teaches you the meanings of the work, which means he teaches you Islam. Everything you are live on will get up includes all Islamic knowledge. And also he teaches you you are unable who will hate come up.

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He teaches you wisdom, heck mommy's want wisdom. This ayah is indicating that wisdom is not what you think in your brain is wisdom. Intelligence is not what you humanity think is intelligence. Reason is not what you as human beings think is Reason. Reason is that which Allah's Messenger sallallahu alayhi wa sallam says it's reason whether it goes against your reason we'd conforms to reason, you might have a reason, you know, brain, reasonable brain that might understand his reason. But if you don't then see what I mean. Now, this is Emma, this is Islam submission. Islam means submission doesn't have to make sense. As long as it is clearly categorically in the Quran and Sunnah. We're

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talking about the mainstream, sorry, mainstream Islamic laws and rules which are sent through revelation, whether it makes sense or not, if it doesn't make sense. The rule is not sending senseless we have senses. There's a problem in mind. There's a problem in our account. There's a problem in our reason, not in the reasoning. It makes sense to a lot of other people. Those this one chef chef Hamad Allama was a Syrian scholar lives in Turkey. I know when somebody asked him if there's a hadith

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In Sahil Buhari, which is absolutely authentic Sahai, and it goes against logic goes against reason. What do you do? Do you reject the Hadith? Or do you reject?

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What's in what makes sense is

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if a hadith goes against what sinned against logical reason, so he asked the question of, against whose reasoning.

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When the Hadith goes against his logic, you're saying reason as though it's only one reason. It might go against your reason, but it might not go against my reason. There. As I said, there's as many human beings as many reasons against whose reason

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human action is not divine. It's not God, Allah created it. And this is the greatest problem of the current time. Because we have made Akon Unlimited, we've given it unlimited jurisdiction. Allah gave three sources of knowledge the first was working. The first was senses you know certain things we we know, through our senses, right now I can see this is black. With my eyes, there are certain things I learned with my upper but just like my upper is my eyes, my senses limited right now I can see in this room, but I can't see what's beyond this room is limited. I can't see with my eyes what's happening right now in

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Japan or America. I can't smell something which is beyond. Here, I can't feel more than what I'm feeling right now. The senses are limited. The next step of knowledge or source of knowledge is awkward. But just like our senses are limited, alcohol is also limited. So alcohol will give us technology will give us lots of beneficial things. You see this extreme widow Islam is not saying that just wrap it up and put it away and put it in a coffin and bury it and regenerate it up. Islam is not saying we are up or less people we should be up or less people like madmen. That's it. Islam is not saying that Islam is saying no icon another knuckle means traditional reason.

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Traditionally, transmitted knowledge both coming hand in hand but

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preference is given to number. preference is given to divine guidance. You use your apple to understand that you need this you need both. You know, when somebody wants to see what do we need, we need eyesight and we need the sunlight right now. There's light sunlight in the world when if I close my eyes, I can't see.

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And if there's darkness of the lights, there's no sunlight and my eyes are open. I can't see a Sheree I took a chips Sherea Quran sunnah is like sunlight. After this, like our eyes, you can't see fully except with both. We have these two extremes. Some people also went, like I said, the monitors that we'll be talking about, where to the extreme of rationalism, everything that makes sense to the account, then they will accept if it doesn't make sense. Put away the Quran and Sunnah. That was rational, excessive rationalism. That there were other people also who went to excessive literalism, as though Allah told us to take it up and put it in a covenant. That's it. Like don't use the

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awkward at all.

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So this was also something that happened. So you have to use our code. Of course, as long as not Allah is not telling us to be up unless people but when pennants don't make the God don't make the criteria of everything. And because this is what's happened today.

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what Apple does, basically, when we make apple, the sole criteria

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we think that it's making sense, but we don't know the way the human fitrah is, Apple is connected directly with what

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with our desires, with the enough's icon becomes the servant of subservience to what you do glom off your sexual your, your desires.

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and this is what Islam is saying, that look, Africa will ultimately reason will ultimately become the slave of something. Either you make it a slave of divine revelation of God or you make it the slave of your desires and that happen which is the servant of the slave of human desire. In the Quran, Allah terms is terms it as our of our a term and he talks about the law who haha, this is what I took this out from. Have you not seen the one who has made his Hawa his God? This is where we take this out from. Have you not seen the one

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who's taken is upon us God because alcohol he does alcohol is that howa is that Apple, which does everything what it feels like doing. If I think sex outside of marriage is my desires. Yeah, I will justify it. I'll give all the proofs for it. If I think homosexuality is something that should be okay, I'll give all the hooks for it. If I say sex change and gender change makes sense. We're justified they will you see when when you give aka the sole jurisdiction then everything in on the world in the world will be justified.

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What's the sin what's a crime? You know, they distinguish between sin and crime.

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You know, if you read the Encyclopedia Britannica

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you know, go and check it out, when they are defining atomic bomb

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the definition or when they are defining it and explaining what an atomic bomb is.

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They talked about this destructions. Later on, he talks about it a bit later on. But right in the beginning, the code of the former UK Prime Minister is used to explain and define what an atomic bomb is.

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An atomic bomb is that which the former Prime Minister Winston Winston Churchill said, saved the lives of

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100,000 US soldiers in Hiroshima and Nagasaki

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and 250,000 soldiers lives were saved. British soldiers were saved in Hiroshima, because

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what positivity? When anyone thinks about Hiroshima, I'm sure you know about Hiroshima, Nagasaki, like, humanity is in shame till today.

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But even

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from that, you can take positivity digit positivity out.

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They talked about the destructions. And you know, the millions of lives and how people died afterwards, but 100,000 US soldiers and 250,000 British soldiers dead saved their lives was saved because the Western forces, the allied forces, they used atomic bombs in Hiroshima, Nagasaki, was the positivity.

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Everything is justified in the name of apple today.

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Because Apple is given, we will find logical explanations for everything, everything, which means whether it's an inhumane act, whether it's despicable, unethical, immoral, filthy, dirty act, something people used to think evil back in the day. Today, it's now in the name of modernism, this is modern, modern, we need to move with the times. You know, this was been back in the day these things happen. Many, many 100 years ago, there was a group called the boutonniere, also known as a parameter they came to existence is written in the books in Arabic books. They had a leader who actually wrote it in Arabic.

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They were like an offshoot of the martyrs, Xena, everything is based on the appeal and reason. So he's got a whole this concept of your theory, and he says, Look,

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it just doesn't make sense to me. And it doesn't make sense to us. That a young man who lives in a family, he leaves, when he wants to get married.

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He leaves a sister at home that understands him. There's a lot of compatibility between him and his sister.

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Sorry, this is quiet. I'm being open about it. This isn't the books. There's compatibility. They grew up together, they both understand each other. And he wants to marry leaves the system gives her to some complete, foreign originally stranger.

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She might get divorced, and there might be compatibility, no compatibility. Who knows? And he goes and gets another strange and what sense is in this, from every logical, rational, ugly point of view, the most sense is in a brother married sister and the sister married.

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Now we think this is yucky.

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This is just disgusting.

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It's disgusting. Yes, but why? Prove it logically.

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Somebody says But isn't it disgusting? Well, the people who even today there's people who now are into incest and there's actually just like I normally say people who talk about homosexuality 60 or 70 years ago. That's how they used to think about homosexuality yucky dirty.

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In 60 years ago, exactly this marriage within family will be like this change because the outcome is kind of crazy. Because when you're when this is the god

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But then it's divine. There's no questions on the call. It makes sense. That's it. You can't question it anymore. Because it's divine, according to

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something that completely was filthy, considered to be immortal

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100 years ago, it makes absolute sense today.

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they couldn't disprove this person. It logically they said, Isn't that Disgusting, isn't it? Well, that's the creation of you thinking in your mind, your minds are programmed to think it's dirty. My mind doesn't think it's bad, who said who made the criteria of what's bad and was disgusting? Who made that criteria? That's why there was another professor or scientist, I think, much lesser or someone. He actually said that there is no definition of good and evil in the world.

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Who made the definition of good Hasan?

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What's the criteria? As long as you're not committing a crime? Who said this is the this is good? And this act is evil? What's the definition? He said, the definition is what the society think is good is good. When the society thinks it's bad, and the same good thing because that's the definition is just give it to the people the brains will detect. And the same brain today, like, Look how crazy the same alcohol right now, if someone takes Alcohol

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Alcohol consumption is considered to be okay. No problem drink, moderately the drink,

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gives you intoxication. There's harms everything. That's still no problem. You know, though, everyone's drinking Friday night. The moment someone takes drugs.

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There's a whole war against druggie arrested. Why the difference? If you think drugs are bad, then alcohol is bad. And if you think alcohol is okay, the drinks are okay. Make your mind up.

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But they just use their brain to think this is good because we said it's good. And this one's bad.

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What's the criteria? Well,

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it's a God.

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God upper center worry that this is this is the

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So this person who talks about marriage within the family,

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he couldn't disprove it.

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So someone said to him that was that group

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that does this, does this not go against, you know, NASA

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lineage being muddled up? Like we need family systems? And who said that's required? So who said That's good? I don't think you don't need to know whose father whose son whose daughter who said we need to do this.

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Then they said to him, well, it creates incest credits, illnesses.

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So he put a team to do some research and today there's research has been done. That actually, incest does not create.

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And there will always be two issues and that's and second problem of the upper every issue that is based on Apple, they'll be two opinions. If you can read yesterday's, what did they do? Every issue is for and against. You go to BBC, they'll do a program. And they'll bring one person arguing for the one person arguing against every issue. And they never give you the final conclusion. Leave it to the you know, every issue that's happening currently issue if you watch the news, if you listen to the news, what will happen, they will always bring one person for one person against and that's how the person is trained in media studies when he's interviewing the, the one for he will be the

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one against and when he's interviewing, the one against will become placed like this in the devil's advocate, he will be against the vessel.

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But they will never give the final opinion. Why leave it to the viewers, you are all gods.

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You are old as how often do you listen to his argue when you listen to his argument? Well, it makes sense do great. If he makes sense to you, then you go with this, if that makes sense to you, you go with that. There is no criteria.

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Every person is a God.

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And everyone wants to follow his design. So this is what this person says.

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That's who said lineage needs to and also about creating interest creating walls issues.

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I mentioned the verse of the Quran, Allah subhanaw taala What did he say? Allah subhana wa Tada sent the messenger Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi wa sahbihi wa salam, you are Lemuel Kitab one heck come up. wisdom, wisdom, something that has logic behind it. It is Allah's Messenger sallallahu alayhi wa sallam that tells us what is wisdom? What makes sense? What is

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logical, what is rational what conforms to rationalism

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And this is what I was saying that we live in this time. And this one wants to end the one

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where all these issues

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those issues which

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before I mentioned that, so the answer to that question was that modernism is good.

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when it goes against divine revelation that modernism is bad. That's the criteria for a Muslim. Every new theory, every new concept, every new idea, every modern technology, every modern thing is subservient to

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divine revelation.

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It is under the command of Allah Subhan Allah to Allah and His Messenger, Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, and this is what Allah says in the Quran as well. On our channel, it will mean in a minute in Iraq called Allahu wa rasuluh Omran and ye according to FIRA Tomita, Marie, when Allah and His Messenger sallallahu alayhi wa sallam when they have decided something then for a man and a woman, a male and a female woman, Karolina meanwhile, community, a male Muslim man or female Muslim man,

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they have no choice but to accept and this is Islam. This is the mission. This is what we have to understand that look Islam we ask submissive to Allah, sometimes in the name of Akkad. And reason we look, there are certain issues which are disagreed upon, I'm not talking about those issues, go within reason to disagree, agree, different modalities, different opinions, I'm not even talking about that I am talking about the universal principles that have been accepted by Muslims over 14 144 years, from the time of the messengers of Allah, it was set up the majority of the Muslims, only two 3%. In every era, like the martyrs Zilla came, they had power, they actually had power and

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control state control, state power. They went against

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traditional teachings of Islam. They come in every year of 100. I know what happens, they get lost.

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You know, even today, some people are saying that look, you know, there's too much modernism. And there's all these modern thinkers are coming with modern ideas, and they're distorting Islam in the name of reforming Islam. Look, you know, non Muslims want us to do that. Because Christianity has been reformed. Everything Christianity is not like it was. It's not in its pristine form. So they think, I don't know Muslims do that as well. Everything has to you need reform. Islam needs reformation. No, it doesn't need revelation.

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They want us to do that the Jews won't do medicine, but they want Muslims to change the religion. Everything has to change, change all the laws,

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from marriage knows to divorce knows the you know the basics. I will say the mainstream concepts of Islam.

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Mainstream not the elaphiti You know, the difference of opinion issues, I'm talking about mainstream constant concepts a woman has to cover ahead, wear a hijab and wear loose clothing. There are people coming today and saying no this interpretive that in interpreting this. Why? Because the Afghan and the Hawa and young people flock behind anyone who gives you an easy opinion, because it's fulfilling your desire. It's easy. It's not because it makes sense to you more. It's not that it's just that it's more appealing because it's easier. If someone says how long and how long, I'll go for the analysis. If someone says yeah, you can, someone might come with an idea and say icon is halal. And

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there are some people who actually said there's people who said that, you know, back in the day the messiness of of always use time that alcohol was made in a different way they used to press grapes and dates, and now it's done in a very different way. And therefore today's alcohol, using our core reason is actually permissible. This is not the alcohol that was prohibited by the messengers from Allah instead of

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back in the day white poop was haram because pigs used to stay in very dirty, filthy and hygienic places and eat or fulfill and pigs were dirty today. They are catered for their hygiene farms, you know, they are given their process of giving injections. So today's pork is hot up. Back in the day, the music used to be the Arabs and veterans, their music was like this and not to this. Today's music is different than ever. Today's music is Hello, it's fine. It's permissible, back in the day, and the list goes on. People have rejected change, reformed everything. There's nothing left on Islam, from P the lowest to everything, everything, gender roles, low it was different that time

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that in Islam, Allah has made in a household, the main and Emile you have to have an a median household. Allah just divided the job. That doesn't mean women can't work but the job of the household on the women this was traditionally how it has always been

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The male is the breadwinner, or Richardo. Moon and undeserving my father in law who will be mindful and Allah's our moon. They are the breadwinners, they are the main they are the maintainers of the family, the female role, the main role of gender roles. This is why our marriages in the world used to exist and lasts longer. Why do they use there's many reasons why they don't last now. One of them is his mobile phone. But another reason was because society knew the role was gender roles. A man used to play the role of the man the woman used to play the role of the woman you used to have a man marry the woman now the man has become half a woman and the woman has become half man. And you've

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got a half woman and a half man married the half woman and a half man. So of course, it's going to be a clash. Because the nature of sexuality even clothing has changed. Used to have you know, upstairs the mental thing female clothing now is unisex and now even toilets, there was a somewhat recently, like God, like saying toilets now you know, washing toilets, male female just go together.

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They are actively promoting that there's no such thing as gender, non binary gender fluid. It's a massive thing.

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Because this is going crazy.

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And I will tell you one thing, before I carry on, I want to finish this off, that all these are not talking about me. This is televisions, I'm talking about the mainstream concepts of Islam, like hijab is a no. five time prayers. Alcohol is prohibited gender roles,

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and many other issues.

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Homosexuality being forbidden, when we say it's not allowed in Islam is we will not be homophobic here, I'll just make clear. Islam doesn't say V. We shall hate towards anyone, whether that person is committing any sin. Just like someone doesn't pray Fajr Salah we don't hate that person, a person who is engaged in homosexual activity, we don't need that person as well. This person is also committing sin and this person in Islam something which is not allowed when we say sin, because you know, they don't even like the term sin. Many years ago, I think 1012 years ago, I had a lecture once University. And I kept using this word.

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It was a joke in university, which is applauded somewhere. Sin. A Jewish man came afterwards. And he said to me, I really liked your lecture. And I agree with everything. Just one thing just for future. There are some people who are sensitive, I'm a Jew, I know. But the word sin is a bit like crime. So just just say Islam is not allowed when you have non Muslim audience that are 100 non Muslims as well.

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So I took that on board very, very good. Because they think once you say sin is like you're an evil person. When we say sin, it's like it's not allowed in Islam. So

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we are not homophobic, we don't hate anyone. We don't go on to people who do this any of the any sin. But at the same time, we know water Islam. This is where the balance is required. We are open that no in Islam, it is not allowed. We're not going to change and interpret in the name of modernism and applied and rationalism and logical reasoning that no times have changed. To beat around the bush. No, it's not allowed. It's haram. It's sinful. It's illegal in Islam finish. This is what my religion says. You Your religion might say something else? Why do I believe in this religion? Because this is why believe it, you might believe in something, you have a right to

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believe in that.

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So all these kinds of issues.

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I'm talking about these issues, which are being watered down by certain Muslims, in the name of modernism in the name of rationalism, in the name of Afghan and reasoning, because they want to appease the wider community, the non Muslims, and the influence on the pressure, the whatever, whatever, whatever.

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So this, these are the type of rules I'm talking about. But I will say that is you have to look at the standards, aka, one point here. And then I'm going to end

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it's so ironic and it's a G but it's, it's intriguing, and it makes you think,

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that we are living in a time when people are giving actual the most importance ever.

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Every person is a God in himself or herself. Like I said,

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you will find people today, you know, they will be feminists, hardcore feminism, where they will, you know, have some crazy ideas. The same person will be a vegan or a vegetarian and thinking any type of meat eating and eating wheat and meeting when we meet to eat. When we meet, we eat meat. So all of this is bad.

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And there'll be atheists as well. They will not believe in genders you know, like right now.

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Oh, you know, there's movements, they're proud. They have his pride events, proud in being a homosexual. If it's a movement, you can't even say something slightly negative. It's like it's because you are going against God.

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This God in the brain said, it's good. So now it's blasphemy that you say you delve into religion. It's a full blown religion of atheism, feminism, and all these things put together, go online and check. I wants to do research on all these young people. You know, some of them have turned to you know, change their gender. They don't, at least if they haven't, they don't believe in genders. So many have become gender fluid, gender free, you know, there's all these times transvestites, transsexuals, transgender, trans, that I forgot how many, you know, terms they are and there's this definition and the general definition. And they will many of them are like that the atheist and all

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of this.

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But at the same time, every single one more or less says I have mental health issues.

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They themselves said

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depression. Do you know what is the greatest illness of current time?

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It's not cancer.

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It's not diabetes, maybe Asians? I don't know how to care for them. All we need

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is not Coronavirus. The greatest illness today is depression, anxiety, mental health. The ironic point is that in the era when alcohol is considered to be the God and given the most importance of us and I'm going to affect your columnist

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the most ill thing is the ACA which they made it called. And that's intriguing to me

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that we are living in a time where they are thinking icon and the reason is the most important thing divine. Don't question

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Allah said I will make your icon the most ill. And

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and this is why in today's era, mental health is a massive issue. It's the greatest problem. You'll find all of these people who are gender fluid and gender free and trans and essentials and what many of them they themselves they all say the combative will not say they themselves. They say themselves have to have mental health issues. It's okay not to be okay. Don't have anyone thinking before you used to be just sadness, you know, before people even say that they have sad isn't happiness. Now it is sadness is you know, but but some people do they have a lot of stress and anxiety.

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So after is not divine, for us divine is what Allah and His messenger Allah.

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So modernism is good. Technology is good. modernity is good. Innovation bringing new things in the world is good. Moving with the times is good. Yes, we should all move with the times. People say scholars shouldn't be the times yes, we do will be the times we should. I mean, the scholars should I'm not a scholar, but they should all move of course, and they all do. But not at the expense of what he revelation once is going against what was divinely sent by Allah and His Messenger sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, scholars are moving with time some people they just dislike scholars, they honestly they don't look backward. Otherwise no scholar would be using an iPhone. Isn't that

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moving with the time of course. But that is a mean that we have to accept every theory that comes into existence on planet Earth, even if it goes against the Quran and Sunnah.

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this one last thing I want to end with I know time is up. But this is really important.

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Just one last point. And this is generally for scholars and students of knowledge and people in India and Islam.

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Islam does not need a change, it doesn't need a reformation all these rules, we need to stick to traditional transmitted Islam. This is why we send modernism versus traditional Islam we must take to traditional Islam don't reform religion Christianity was reformed, no longer it remains in its traditional form. Islam, and this is what they don't like, Why aren't the Muslims changing or reforming their religion? Why aren't they saying chanting the Quran?

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You know this and then in the name of each jihad.

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There's this female

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she calls herself on which the hidden I'm emotionally she wrote a book through the trouble with Islam. She's a lesbian.

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I don't know if he's, she called herself a Muslim.

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And she challenges Oh, this is you know, this, I don't know these male dominated religion that is color

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have made and you know,

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Islam needs to move and change and unemotional to the lesbian causes our Muslim lesbian and she's all over the news.

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So it doesn't need reform. But what last point is that? Yes, Islam, all these rules need to be explained in the current time, in accordance with the modern times. That's very important. On one extreme, there will be certain liberal type of modern type of scholars type of people who will pollute and reform and change and alter just, it doesn't make sense. The Quran said inheritance, the curry with no help. They don't say the son gets two times than the daughter, you know, inheritance. But no, that goes against, you know, equality today's divine, the ugly, understood equality, what they think is equality, their definition of they've got up and told them what equality was. So

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therefore, that needs to be changed, and this needs to be changed, and that needs to change and all sorts of rules need to be changed. On the other hand, there are people who will accept all this traditional way but explaining to you as they were sitting in a village in Pakistan in 1921.

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And that is also problematic.

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Stick to the traditional Islam, but explain it in a modern way that is digestible. After that is the guy kinda get digested and say your apples got a problem, just accept it. I'm a novice, but explain it in a modern way, in a way that is easy to digest for a young person living in United Kingdom in 2022.

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Because some of the X, the old ways of explaining it were

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compatible for those times X ways of explaining can be different. The ways of explaining as long as you get into London, you can go different ways. If you made a modern road now you suborder road days you use some older Awan wounds now now we've got a nice modern monitor, we have one use that are you still wanting to use the old roots. And so not only was the

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new modern motorways, smart motorways? Use that now, it's got too many cameras.

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So use a modern method.

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And I personally have said this a lot where our students are studying medicines, I always tell them about this. And actually some of the brothers also said that, you know, we should, there's a lot of these kinds of contentious issues in Islam, to maybe do a course on this. And this is an idea I really want to do take 10 to 15 of these kinds of issues. Right? Why does

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you know, a male receive two shirts over a female? Why there's two in one, you know, in witnesses in marriage? Why is it two women equal to one? And why is allowed divorce given in the hands of the man, the man gets caught up to the woman the woman caught in, can't give that up, doesn't happen. All these contentious issues that people bring up today, all these issues that doesn't make sense to someone. To most non Muslims, and some some Muslims. There's a list of 1015 of them. Homosexuality is one. All of them explain them, penal law, Voodoo mood, slavery, all these kind of things we don't have to do every now but when they used to be all Islamic teachings, one by one, explain them in a

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modern way. And this, of course, will teach Inshallah, but I'll just give you one example. I remember once I was

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and I mentioned this, because you notice, and this is an example I'm giving

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in Islam who gives the divorce the man difference in Islam as this guy asked this question, so look, can I ask you a question? It doesn't make sense to me. Why is there no equality? In Islam that is definitely quality. There's no similarity there's equality. But in Islam, Islam says the male and female agenda are different. There's no similarity.

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The male doesn't get pregnant, a woman gets pregnant with a different

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woman gives birth.

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They have completed similarity and dissimilarity with equality and inequality. I can see a much in quote years down the line in central London women saying it's not fair. Why do we get pregnant women should get pregnant. I can see a marsh it's unfair. We have to go through menstrual experience menstrual menstruation, or give some operation and injection to men and they should have blood as well coming out from somewhere. It's not fair. Equality is this is not equality.

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This would happen good years down the line. And women already seen that why this? Why am I that's why they have surrogates. Surrogacy, why should I have them? Why should I go through nine months of burden and so much difficulty of a child that is not just my show?

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If your child has Oh, no marriages, this is why they fight marriages don't. I will talk about the gender roles because classically gender roles people understood marriages survive. Now merges those. Everything's people want to question everything because everyone is the God himself. So this

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issue, this is just a question in a nice way, look, I don't understand, where's the equality? Why can't a woman give them up?

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So I knew when I mean, this was a modern type of, you know, I teach in central London for many years, but so this was where we have people from all different backgrounds, sometimes some non Muslims also come or some people who have just accepted Islam, all different backgrounds. So anyway, you have to explain to them whether we can say Allah said in the Quran that you know what even divine gift Allah See you later says to accept it or go back.

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Accept it.

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I said, Who told you that, as in Islam, no, women give them up as well. First,

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I've heard like traditional Islam, only men give the most men when they set up who happens And who told you that? She was not I know, one scholar and this color, some modern scholars have changed. They said in this current times change, but you seem from a traditional background. So I asked you in traditional Islam, like Hanafi, Shafi, Maliki Hamburg, and classical traditional people, they think only men can give the most, and that's only men give that up. The women can't give that up to the man. And it doesn't occur. Doesn't know women, yourself as she's sure, traditionally, women.

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So all, you know, built in, you know, rage, or feminism and you know, for the past 10 years, 70 or so women can give us a classically traditional and telling you traditional Islam, women can give divorce, who said to you that women can't get those? When she calmed down, then afterwards, I said,

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In Islam, both men and women get along. However, the way the method, the manner and the way a man gets divorce is different to the way and the method and the man or woman gives the most. Why is it different? Because man is different to a woman, male and female as to our men, men and women exactly the same? Do I say this? Does your husband get pregnant? No, no, no. No. Does he get hydration? No. You get menstruation? Yes. Are you different? Yes. You know, are you physically different to a male? Yes. Physically, mentally, emotionally, psychologically, emotionally, from every angle. Men and women are different men are from Mars, Women are from Venus, they wrote a book on this

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should read that book. It's a good book.

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Men and women are different. emotionally, psychologically, that's a different topic. But

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so that's why because men and women are different. Allah gave a man a different method. They both give divorces.

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But the method in which a man gets divorced is different to the method in which a woman gives the news. And then I said to my sister, actually, I think it's unfair, really, but it's fair. But I would think if I'm looking from the man side, I think it's unfair on men. I rather I rather be on your place in this situation. Because for a man and anyone has OCD, and we're so sad right now just close your ears, please. If you've got OCD was was

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closer. Yes. Please don't. And they don't for me 400 million times. For a man is very easy for Tullock by mistake, but don't get don't that you don't was doing that. You just said that up is done. It's very easy. How many of you know the summer you have to have like you get angry, but it might just come out. You might just end on the mountain. Oh, no. What if you have to stop for over how many? Two, three minutes. The man

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really finds it very, very difficult.

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Because it's very easy. For a woman to love doesn't happen like that. How many times has your wife given you the lock and said to you, after one hour, I love you.

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A woman can give 200 blocks, and then say I love you. No problem. This is how women we will not get emotional. It's nothing. It's not a bad thing. It's the beauty of the woman is in her being emotional, and being you know, too fragile. And that's why you know, that's the beauty. That's how a woman doesn't know why she's a man or a man the beauty of the woman is sometimes a woman cries and you don't know why it's She's crying. You ask her why she's why you crisis. I don't know why I'm crying as well. She doesn't know why she's crying.

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Women sometimes I don't know myself. So that's how a woman is. So therefore Allah sent for a woman you could say a lot, 4 billion times. So that will not happen for you. To get the most is probably the procedure, longer method you have to try to go out. If not, then you go, you know, first trying to convince then hold on. If not, then you go to a Sharia council or you know, you Islamically her code, and you go there and we'll present you

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case so it's not reactionary emotionally just done straightaway. But for a man Allah gave but the problem is today men have become like women so now that's why women I think the rule should be the same for men as well because men were supposed to have that.

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They were not supposed to be like

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a man be a man. And this is why Allah gave different laws for love. So anyway, this is how you explain the whole issue and they understand shall not Sorry for going over time I don't know what the q&a what's happening. But inshallah I end with this as lots of things that can be said about this topic. The summary is modernism is good, provided it is in accordance with

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divine revelation Quran and Sunnah the guidance of Allah and His Messenger sallallahu alayhi wa sallam and this