Channel: Muhammad ibn Adam al-Kawthari
Hadith Sahih: Definition, principles & application
The science of hadith came into formation by expert scholars of hadith assessing the narrations and sorting out the genuine from the mistaken and fabricated.
This science consists of many terminology and classifications, amongst which is “Sahih” (rigorously authenticated), which Mufti Muhammad ibn Adam Al-Kawthari expounds on in this lesson.
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lesson number five
of a third Haditha Sharif.
Today's lesson is going to be quite inshallah detail intensive,
very important aspects to be discussed and discussed.
And actually the main I mean, everything was important before this as well. But the actual
tense part of the book starts from here.
I started off this aspect.
We just briefly started off this chapter Subbable Oh, wolf. ebrd mata Yes, Lucha de casa de familia Emily, you have those notes
that I gave, which, which is a summary of, you know, the book reasons or for disagreement amongst the Imams. And we start with started the first reason, the first reason when does a headache qualify to be acted upon.
So this is the first reason we're looking at and then he's divided this first reason into A, B, C, and D. Okay, so there's four aspects to this first reason.
Okay, first reason, there's a, we're gonna look, we're just gonna look at a today.
Okay, the first point.
So what's this whole
cause of reason was the heading again.
The first reason
was heading. What did he say that again? Reason for the first reasons.
When does a headache qualify to be acted upon?
So as we know, listen to this carefully.
You will have to listen more than look, read the book because the book could be very confusing today.
As you know the differences of opinion between your moms and we're looking at fixed issues. Yeah. Different imams say different things. Different mud hubs have different opinions about praying about fasting and all the different
most of it is to do with the Hadith.
And this is why this whole book is about how Hadith influences differences of opinion.
So then the question is that when does a hadith qualify to be acted upon? So if it qualifies to be acted upon the new act upon it, and if it does, qualifies to be acted upon, meaning does not qualify to get to the pond, then you don't act on it. So when is it fit enough? The word is yes law. From the word Salah, Salah is opposite of facade in Arabic. No, this is solid, which means pious but actually means Soho means something correct and good and appropriate. That's what sort of highest level means. an opposite of that is facade, which is like corrupted bad. So if you say an apple is good, you say Salah, it's a good Apple sudo boo Salah he has a whole chapter in Hadith that buying
and selling of fruits, cobbler Buddha with Salah, cobbler booty Cabo de la jolla meaning before it's right, and after it's ripe Barbuda with ally so now Salah is the app and has raped, the food has raped, the data has raped, etc. So the word here used is Salah.
Okay, we're just trying to ease the discussion so that you can understand it perfectly. It's very important to understand this perfectly.
We've just started two three minutes ago but I'm just setting the scene because really this is a very deep and detailed discussion today is probably one of the most important
the diff disagreements occur because of headaches of what the title is. When does a hadith Shareef a noble has you qualify? When is it fit? When is it right? When is the head is good enough to be acted upon and when you don't have to. So there's a difference of opinion between the Imams about this and then
He said that this first cause or reason we'll
we'll look at what will be divided into four different points. And that's why in the handouts, I've made it into A, B, C, and D.
And he mentioned last week we read that these four
all these four. So let's look at looking at going back, we'll get to each one ABCD. So a
the first point under this heading, when does the headache qualified to be acted upon under that heading? A the first point. He says, I'm a nocturnal oola.
First, I really do the hobby sdsr Taylor obey the annual Modica theory, as far as the first point is concerned, a, I will present it
in brief, even he's saying it In brief, but it's not really in brief, while relatively brief to look at other aspects. So that he says, so that I don't go far away from the topic too much. I don't, you know, divert from the topic too much. So it will be won't be in too much detail.
So the A,
he actually the heading of the A was and is still are fulfilled. Notice the difference of opinion in some of the conditions of radical centricity. So that's a point. Now.
This first point is about see when we say ahaadeeth qualifies to be acted upon, it's fit enough. So one of the basic things
that is done when you say Howdy, is fit enough or good enough or qualifies or does not qualify? One of the first things there's lots of things you have to look at for qualification. There's lots of aspects and angles involved. These qualification Yeah, like one thing is in opposing the Quran or not or this is it opposing another Hadith all that will come afterwards. When you when there's a hadith in Bukhari, Muslim, Philomena Surya Buddha anywhere is it does this how do you qualify to be used as evidence to be acted upon? Can you apply this in your Salah and now say, Okay, this is how you pray sought out or this is the rule for this. Lots of things are involved. Yeah, lots of things
involved. Does it contradict another one another more authentic idea or not? This is contrary the core all of that will come after it. But the first basic thing you do is that is this hadith in itself authentic or not? That's the first thing. So therefore, the first point is about authentication.
You know, we hear the word say,
Okay, so the first basic criteria is what? The first point does ahaadeeth qualify, I'm repeating I know myself just to put this in our minds and head is a hadith fit enough to be acted upon the first a point the first check on the checklist, the first thing you do is look, is it Sahih
Now, he will tell us here that I'll read the Arabic And then I'll have to explain this to you in detail. It talks about Jim hudl Rama he wrote
what he had to follow Synod with the Butoh adelita Robbie was to go to doctor he was allama to center D when many many shoes was Salama to whom are you one minute a little cada?
is giving us the definition what is the Hadith so he definition
Okay, this I've been teaching this like this I just thought this is I even in the morning I'm actually teaching right now we're going through the definition of study from the past three days Friday, I started slowly slowly line one line one line in 14 minutes lesson. Basic mistake sometimes people make is when they look at the words here, especially with some people who are accustomed to Asians of continent languages. So or do Gujarati? I don't know Bengali maybe do they use the word Sahih in Bengali as well.
Because we have the word sign or do Gujarati, Punjabi Bengali we have this word side. So humans correct good. Suddenly isn't very good. Is it correct? Is it fine, though and opposite of that is valid or bad or corrupt? It's completely misunderstand this word. So he is an Arabic technical term. in linguistics, he means
somebody who's healthy is called Sally as well. Opposite of Maria.
linguistically, but here is not the linguistic meaning. in Hades definition there is a specific definition given to a hadith site. There's a specific definition given.
Now, before understanding this definition,
in the time of the messenger sallallahu sallam, there was no such thing
called Hadith Sahih
There's no definition.
There's no way in the Quran a surah an ayah in the Quran telling us that this is the definition of God. Okay? Of course not, there is no Hadith telling us what to do, he is, in a time of Sahaba there was no such thing as Sati or the second is called Hassan has an answer here both, like haston is a lower level of size but it's still like
it's sound basically you can use that as evidence then you have the leaf which is weak or and then we have modal fabricated, but in the time was the habit is those there was no such thing as sorry.
In the time of your own as well, there wasn't really maybe some beginning parts, but there wasn't really there was no such thing as it
because look at have the messenger sort of lower yourself, because remember this he is not out of the law. This is not defining what the messenger sallallahu Sallam said, We're not saying all what he said, is Sahil, what he said was, but that's actually quite disrespectful. This is not like saying, Oh, this hadith the Prophet sallallahu Sallam said, this is saying we're not judging what he said.
We're judging whether he said it or not.
To understand the point, we're judging, whether we're trying to ascertain whether he said this or not. This is for the chain, not for the text.
So in the top of the messenger sallallahu sallam, he said something, how about one ask him Is it so he he's the one is saying, you're hearing your ears? And the time of Who knows? Well, there's no such a thing. Because imagine you you're sitting in the dentist's and modulus of Abdullah having a mushroom and he says, I heard the messenger sallallahu alayhi. Salam say this. There's no there's no question of so here he is, as a hobby. You're sitting with him, and he's heard the messenger sallallahu sallam,
you don't need anything else.
In the later generation Wi Fi again, imagine you're sitting in the
gathering and the dose of hassanal bursary.
He says, I heard. So you're gonna argue with pardeep say that the messenger sort of wireless and I've said this, no problem, because you know, has some adversity. That's why you're sitting you're respecting, you're trusting. And he's saying earlier, the loved one who's a Sahabi of Guru question. And he says the message is, there is no such thing. Even in the latter generation, it was like somebody who you knew is relating from immediate RBI. So still, there's no question. But then as time passed,
when books literally in the this started around the third century, remember hardest time, more. So there was early, you know, bit of COVID and principles in the beginning, remember? So imovel, Hanif and all these guys were even before the term had its he came into existence
since then, this point. But so it started later in the third generation, because now somebody is telling you a hadith. Brother Kamiya. I heard from someone who heard from someone who heard from this star berry who heard from the Sahabi, who heard from the professor about varicella, that he said this? Who is this? Someone who heard from someone tell me his name? Who is he? What is it? Could that someone be just telling Porky pies? You know, could you be lying? Could you be making it up? Could that someone who is could you be someone after some hypocrite just trying to you know, come into the mix of the Muslims and fabricate the religion? Who is it?
Now, in the third, fourth century, this whole thing started up.
So then the other man sat down, say, look, we can't trust anyone who says like, anyone could just stand up and say, Oh, I heard from this person present, present present, judges make fabricate names, I heard from fallen fallen for the love and use of Mohammed bin Ibrahim from, you know, just give some fancy names, and who are these guys what's going on? So then they started writing books and putting in a system in place, that there needs to be a criteria based on which you have to judge whether a hadith is actually something that the messenger sallallaahu Addison did say or did not say. And that's when these terms came up.
So the criteria was made by the lama mohabbatein, more or less general broad criteria is agreed upon, but within the definition, there's differences as well.
didn't send because this the criteria is not fully agreed upon. And this is what he's going to try to explain. Generally. So generally, the definition is agreed upon.
But within the this general definition, there are differences as well have different amounts and different editing and can send this basic point. So when we're looking at hedis, when does it qualify to be acted upon? The first check is whether it's authentic or not, an award isn't authentic ID. Okay. Also when we saw the term, so he
has this definition, which I'm going to explain to you right now. But before I do that, again, the way we translate the word psyche
How do you translate it?
So, authentic? People say that yes, a lot of people will say that but I personally just don't don't like like about anything else.
You know, I think most of the words will be similar as in synonyms to authentic the point which is very important is not authentic but authenticated.
It's very, very different. That's why I strongly put emphasis on this.
So he literally means authentic. But in Arabic, it's in the meaning of
this this is very important to keep in mind this came again recently in Arabic, you should keep this in mind. It's in the meaning of Musa Ha.
In Arabic gifts he means authentic Musa means authenticated, you see the word sakarya sexual means to be authentic thing of yourself sahale you Sachi who's somebody else's authenticating Why Why does a big Why am I making a big deal out of why not sir it is cool so he but the meaning is really masa Why?
Because this is a point that
a hadith which is he is not independently authentic, like Allah didn't make something sorry.
It's not like it's already sat here and people just identify it or you know,
it is considered to be say, it is classed to be say it is categorized to be sorry, it is it is deemed to be a heat as judged as a he by who, by human beings, by my data, good human beings, of course, but it is judged and considered and classified and categorized and deemed by someone. It's not on in itself, say
can send this point very important point. That's why I normally say you know, you have in Arabic mode often metafile Yeah, what would you say? in English?
You have something like Kitab was eight in the book of eight, you know?
and the owner and ownership? Yeah, okay. Kita boo zaidan. Oh, Babu beating the door of the house. So the word sir He, I normally say this, I haven't read this anyway, but normally say this the word so he is moved off.
He has to be attributed to something. And someone says this, how do you say
the next question is according to whom
it's not independently sorry. It's according to whom someone is classifying it as it is a very important one, it's not independently say it's judged as a high, it's classed as a high. It's deemed to be say, That's why the word masaharu means deemed to be sorry. That's why I normally translate as authenticated or we say rigorously because there's been rigorous checklist had taken place, rigorously authenticated by somebody.
Okay, these are very important points to keep in mind. Lots of questions and things are answered by this. I'll give you a classic example of this. And I think I mentioned this moving up either last year, the other one must have mentioned it.
I was once reading a book just this an example to tell you this difference. I was reading once a book I can't remember now, there is a book some current
kind of room executive completely forgot what the book was about. But anyway, the footnote etc. was by some contemporary student of knowledge of some society or some number.
Now, in the original text of the book, there was a discussion about some issue. And
the author maybe it was original classical author was saying that this isn't this is an opinion of such and such a mom, I think he's an Imam, Abu hanifa this is what would be here bouhanni for this opinion is taken by Abu hanifa.
If I remember correctly, mobile hanifa Shafi I don't remember who but maybe I think it was a number and and he said, and he used as evidence. The following Heidi, and then he put the Hadith Yeah, that's in the huge desert Stoddard levy hadn't had it used as evidence the following add
on that, when you use the following as a Hadith, there's a number one. Yeah. Fortunately, you look down on the footnote, the one who's editing and annotating the book.
He puts number one and he says at the bottom, this is a contemporary, some student or some scholar, you know, contemporary guy, he puts number one, what does he say?
That lacking However, in Abu hanifa using this hadith as a proof for his opinion,
if he he never like this is problematic. Why? Because this hadith is the E.
Why is it the eve
He's done he gives a drill that is hard it is the roof because he center the heat in the chain. This this this Robbie and this Rob is the chief, as explained by if you want Chahal Barney in his book such and such checks Alberni volume this references Alberni basically had it considered that Yeah, he said if a hotel burning Hades is the if because Alberni has considered it to be that Eve okay and if you remember this if I say this now for a normal average onlooker reader well how does that sound us? That sounds like that okay there was a Hadith,
which independently a lot is messenger made the brief but Abu hanifa despite being a nice person made a mistake and for on this occasion in this issue, what did you do? He by mistake user that you've added and we're just highlighting that sorry you know Alban is highlighting the look. There's a hadith which Allah in Quran in surah baqarah said was naive. And Alberni just is telling you that is naive.
That Sorry, I'm a mistake. That's how it sounds like, isn't it? But that exactly is not. If I say it in different way, it's as follows what that sounded like. But you know what that is in reality, in reality is you could have written in this way, there is a hadith there's an opinion Mr. Baba hanifa says this.
However, Imam Abu hanifa uses a Hadith, which he thinks is sorry. However, there's another opinion of another Imam who thinks is there If so, basically, there's a hadith two people are disagreeing about this hadith. Emmanuel hanifa is using it, then he thinks is it that's why he's using it imovr hanifa thinks this hadith is Sahih, who lived in the second century. And he thought in his time before, even the hadiths he came into, like a definition came into existence. He probably heard it from one person who heard from us a hobby, and he is of the opinion that had, etc. However, somebody living 1400 50 years after him, with all due respect to him, chef and emammal Bernie Rahim Allah,
his opinion, his research is that this is very no problem. There's no single one of them is bad. Both of them are good. But oh, reader, take your pick. You follow our analysts opinion that it's a he or a worldwide his opinion? is that if that's if that's what that is?
It wasn't you remember how it showed us though?
Well, honey, if I took a leaf Heidi, which was made independently, like Jensen, what I'm trying to say a lot of people misunderstand this. A lot of people think that there is actually you know, once you know, I remember somebody on Facebook, or somebody messaged me, I don't know, some can ask you what it is. So what you will know that is this, I said, it's a lengthy effect, people will study and this and that, and this is like a special specialization. But so then the person came back and it is it like, you know, you go and do a proper course where you go and learn all the edits, which are here, and all the ones which are weak. Basically, for some people, Dean is older, but just about
it's so simple. It's like when you want to become a scholar, you go, and there's like five volumes. And you just go and go through a list and just memorize all these old study. And you got to memorize all these a week. And now
that you've identified 500 heads, you've memorized them, you've got to learn which ones are here and gonna learn which one are they?
Now you've become a great chef.
That's how the mentality of people is it's not just a pipe that
didn't say what I'm saying. So a lot of times people say, Oh, this hadith is that if it seems as though independently, there must be a box somewhere where you go and find out where all the sides are there. And there's another box with this whole side that is all about difference of opinions all about personal judgment.
You could say, this headache, there's 100 sitting here. You could say this one is sorry, you could say this one is that you have your proofs, you have your proofs. So there's a difference of opinion between imaams in whether a God does it or not as well.
It's not in itself a lot didn't make something sorry. The messenger sallallahu Sallam did not say this, how do you decide to send my point this is that's why I like to use the word Musa ha, is considered by somebody. So whenever there's a headed side, and the question is, according to whom this hadith is say, who said, whose opinion someone's opinion that side?
You know, Sahil Buhari has also he had eats Why? Because his opinion is that it's a but then yes, the rest of the oma agreed with him that we agree with you or Buhari, that whatever you thought is, hey, we also agree that it's a he but in the beginning, there were some people who disagreed. Actually, there was one Imam, Imam, Dara Kotori. he disagreed with a handful like good 1520 heads a body he said they were very acquainted his opinion.
Then later, your mom's then refuted that and then then there's HMR complete agreement of the oma that
The editor Buhari has authenticated, but Amanda Putnam gave major hydro the whole book that there's so many hundreds of Buhari which according to my opinion, I'm not saying he
didn't say what I'm saying. So this was just this is just I'm just starting off like this just introduction. There's lots lots more to say. So, this word, going back to what we were saying that
when does ahaadeeth qualify to be acted upon? There's lots of things to look at first thing is, is it authenticated, authentic or not? Then the word authentic. So he, I told you, there's a linguistic linguistic meaning, but there's a technical definition that's coming. But before I said, Before, I mentioned the technical definition, we have to understand that this technical definition is a definition that was made by people in the third force generation later on, actually properly was really in the fourth fifth century, it started off in the third century. Remember, I told you in the beginning, there was no need for it? Because you know, someone here heard from the tablet you heard
from this hobby, so there was no need. But later on, they became more of a need and the seeds of this classification categorization of Hadeeth were seeds work
was a word seeds were late or found was waylaid or planted in about the third generation, third generation is a solid third century. This is when Mr. Bahari mounted MIDI these this is the first time people started using the terms
third century mobile hanifa has gone to his load when even the terms that he can
even Malik's country his load as well
before the term so he came your mom telling me the and these guys were the first first people and then after that properly, because in the third century, they were still finalizing you know, so here Buhari Muslim the proper books are coming into existence. Then after that, actually, in the fourth century, when this science of classification got into you know, fifth gear basically properly. And then fifth century was properly books were starting with written sixth century seventh century actually carried on you know, it wasn't still fully established the science until about eighth ninth century, because it masala who was in the seventh century sixth sixth century, who was one of the
main pioneers in this and then after that women know he, so around seven eighth century, fully firmly established this science.
we learn the word say is in the meaning of Musa ha, which means what was the translation?
authenticated, rigorously authenticated? That's why you'll see the word rigor in that book because I changed that in the editing in a rigorously authenticated Hadeeth, rigorously authenticated.
Remember the translator put authentic and I changed it to authenticated. So it's authenticated Howdy. Okay, rigorously authenticated. Now, what is the rigorous truth indicated? It
is mentioned here that look, the mainstream majority of the scholars have said that a hadith Sahih, which is authenticated has five conditions. So basically, there are five conditions for hiding sight, like I told you, that this is a book with about 600 pages on it to look at in detail. I'll just explain to you these are the five conditions, these these are all made by mohabbatein. And you know, scholars made these conditions. Who made these conditions. Scholars later on just to sort of they this this, these conditions were made.
Who made these conditions? scholars Yeah, a lot of you I'm telling because I'm repeating this because you know, young people living signing is like something that allows messenger made salovaara
human being manmade. I'll give you a small, just anecdotal story about this. Now there was this great, I think I mentioned this before, certainly in a few talks. There was this great scholar from the subcontinent, his pastor in our Himalaya. And we actually we were privileged to receive a detailed answer from him. He passed away in 1997.
He was about 90 years 94 years old or something like that in 1997. So he lived from 1900 and something really old scholar has been to England has been to Leicester as well.
His name was Mufti Mahmoud hasn't been going for him Hola. He's got his fatawa in 20 volumes. He was a Grand Mufti of Durban and an added scholar, major, major scholar. He came in 1996 to England he stayed for two weeks he could hardly hear Wu speak and he was in his old you know, old age and a one year after they passed away in South Africa. There's lots of his students and people are still alive. And remember we did we completed our Sahil Bukhari with him and all the books and he
He was highly teachers. He was very highest on it. But before that he came in around 1987
he actually stayed three days. My father's house stayed three days here 97 I still remember I was quite interesting three days instead, he stayed here.
Very, very famous scholars, like a world renowned pastor in South Africa.
He is written about him, he was he was very talented, very knowledgeable. Hadeeth. Like I said, 40 years he was a Grand Mufti of India. For two years, like a major and a deep scholar, this photography media like 20 volumes,
stitch had eaten real top scholar, but at the same time, he was very witty, and there's so many things about him like some amazing things like a very witty in his answers as well.
there's another stories come to mind validity of it, but this one, the one that relevant once he was a human phenomenon, he was sitting in the harem, Naka Medina, somebody somewhere
and a student of knowledge from I think Medina university or somebody, they found out that this, one of the great scholars of India has come and like he was well known. So there's some two, one or two of them that said, let's go on. Let's talk to him. You know, this guy's a fucking hanafy the Mufti of the Hanafi, sort of big scholar from subcontinent. So they came as they came and sat down and said, this is written in the books, I read this. So one of them said they look, you know, after meeting said, we are going to have a discussion with you. In a debate, you even want to debate you. What's the debate on a debate you about one of the issues like why do you guys, you know, don't
raise your hands in prayer.
refer your day. And that in itself is not a big issue. Anyway, it's just the difference of issue is actually what
what's preferable acquainted, Hannah is perfectly fine. A lot of benefits, forget that is absolutely totally permissible, no problem whatsoever to do rough reading. Sometimes it's good to do it as well at least act upon because it's two types of durations, now and then the altercation. And if you should do that, just to sort of at least act upon some design, if you've never acted upon that idea. I do a lot of times what I do is whenever I go where there's lots of people are doing it, then I'll do it that just to is good. I like to intentions because we're acting upon the Hadith. And also, you know, the elephant in the room like molding in and you know, with the people that was actually
there. That's a good intention. As long as you're not, you don't start then you know, doing heroin things that I'm Let me also, you know, do some heroin thing, I'm just gonna do a party as well, because no, within limit, this is one of the Sooners of
actually the Sahaba. And even the province of us and this is from the Sunda, you know that, you know, I'm glad you mentioned this and, you know, the professor was and he said, you're actually the one I'm going off to live and he said sure I shall demo and he wants that, you know, the Kaaba. He said, I wanted discover, you know, the Hatim
nothing around the garden that that's inside. You know, the Kaaba is my intention is to really rebuild acaba. It's been built on, you know, rebuilt many times. But he said, I want to what, I really feel the desire to build it again.
And, you know, build and build, bring the Hatim into the Kaaba and make two doors. One door for people to enter another door for people to exit. But I'm not doing that Lola Heidi's to come in well, Julia, Lola, Lola como karateka image area, had your people meaning your tribe flourish, not being so close to Julia, I would have done it meaning I don't want to do that something which is recommended. And they just cause commotion.
And leave the commotion and let the non recommended less preferable to carry on no problem. This is a such an important issue and lots of people have moms and knowledgeable people don't have to find like the some of the August mcru was slightly better not to do. But if you're trying to change that in your community, it's just gonna cause friction and promotion.
So the sooner is, leave it. Yeah, if someone's doing harm or something like you become a new man, there's one guy recently graduated from a mother's are 22 years old, his blood is boiling, still not married. Okay. He suddenly just graduated from another ESA and he's gone there. And there's been something happening for 600 years in that Masjid. And suddenly he comes like some, you know, 22 year old lad. He just graduated and is boiling. I'm gonna change the world in one night. And next day, he's like,
these people, you guys are doing this and it's all better and this and that and these things happening. What's happening p
p 45. straight after Juma gone. Like
this is this hikma to do it. There's lots of young people don't realize that there's this wisdom to do it, especially if something's just about preferable. If there's difference of opinion, and if it's going to cause commotion in the community, then there's different ways to do it. Like for example, some people think door after foot Salah
is a bit of a gap. It's flexing
But you could have two opinions. But even if you have an opinion that you shouldn't do the congregation I personally don't like the whole congregation thing. But something's happening for many, many years. You don't just suddenly electronic change it in one go, etc. You could try say maybe no, this is better or this slowly, slowly. So this is what the messenger sallallahu wasallam said, and this is from there, actually among the Tamia remold I mentioned this, that from this Hadith, we realize that sometimes to do the less mooster hub, in order to keep the unity is better.
To keep the leaf on the local loop to bring hearts together, bringing hearts together is fun. And to do something mcru 10 z for that that's less of an action, or you're not doing almost
Yeah, if there's something further then you don't even have to bring hearts together. And you don't come into her own to bring hearts together. But other than that, yeah, other than that, like if you leave a muster How about so like, for example, a quitter? The NF is raising hands in prayer is less preferable but if you're going to do it, that means you're doing slightly less preferable but if you think everyone's day and you know everyone's doing it and you just want to bring hearts together and you do it for that reason, then you get double reward no problem. Anyway
I don't have to be there's so much things to mention. Um, the point I was saying that
this person came to that 50 manual that hasn't gone go here and he said look I want to debate with you
about referee ID and raising hands etc. So look, I don't debate etc. But look if you want to discuss it, you know, I'm here with you ask any questions, no problem to say okay, let's discuss is very relevant story. anecdote, anecdote. That's why I'm mentioning it. So
that student or that scholar he said yeah, okay, no problem.
I want to discuss with you about this raising hands I think was raising hands or something like the hand if it's like or reading behind the mom, you know, contentious issue. I won't have a debate with you. But I have a condition. So what's the condition so I have a condition that when you discuss this issue with me, I think I might have mentioned this in depth either. When you discuss this issue with me then as proof as evidence
My condition is that I don't want you to say this see mom said this and that a mom said this and don't bring kilometer Rizal I don't bring the segments of human beings people men. I want statements either Quran or Hadith Sahih that's it as evidence I only want Quran and Sunnah. So I want Quran as proof like when you're doing Santos was happening here when we're discussing bring only as evidence What are you telling me this is the eye of the Quran? This is the Messenger of Allah and Islam so this only then I'll accept if you say oh this Tabby says this that you should do this then I'm not going to take this evidence. So the chef said okay, agreed. I agree with your condition no problem
But before we carry on what is it do tell me what's the definition of Sahih Hadith You said you only what he actually said I only want what my condition is I the Quranic verse or sorry Hadith This is tell me what is it I did is he said every student knows what are we going to read just now the five condition is basic who doesn't know so how do you try and test them so don't I'm not trying to test you I'm just so that we are on the same wavelength. My understanding your understanding the same time your definition so here it is it okay all right. Okay, you know, this is in every basic, you know, the five condition we're going to do today like normal every student reads it. So you start
saying Oh, how do you say the first condition is you know, it's also not the continuation of the chain and then
as he was
counting the conditions is the way we stopped before you carry on. Sorry, I forgot I have a condition as well.
I have a condition as well you had a condition accepted your condition. And my condition is exactly like your condition. So I'm not gonna ask you anything more difficult.
Whenever you Whatever you say, including this definition of hadiza he will not accept from you except a verse of the Quran or Hadith sorry.
I will not accept from you except what don't bring like statements of human beings and are varied and this and that. Bring me wherever you're going to say, Quran or Hadith Sahih? Is that okay? Then you kind of say isn't really I just told you Quran Hadith, sorry. You're giving me a definition, which Sahih Hadith is this definition? Who made this definition? You just told me Don't tell me the statements of men. You're telling me the basic criteria. Definition of saying it according to the statements of men. You just said, Don't tell me column region, your definition these five conditions were made by men, not even the Sahaba made it not even that I might use this hobby. You're not even
using this. However, you're not even using the top your own. You're using like maybe some fifth generation people.
So why are you using their definition of saying I thought you hated all these other people in the phone.
And fifth generation, your whole criteria. Your definition of sidefx is based on human beings that lived in the fourth century.
So they got confused in the museum So what's going on? Yeah.
And you just ended the matter you
just end it.
Because if you say that if you're so eager that I want all your Quran Hadith say, then you give me the definition of it, based on the definition of it based on a hadith say
Jensen, his whole point, and it's a he, the definition is made by
men, great men, I use the word man I don't like to be because in Arabic, they say, Rachel, but these are like a commodity. You know, we're not trying to undermine them. We're just trying to relatively mentioned that it's not made by Allah and His messenger. But these people who made it, of course, they made it they were great men like, Great mohabbatein. And of course, well accepted, but just relatively, when we say men as opposed to the God as opposed to
the leader of men. Allah His Messenger sallallahu sallam. That's why we say men because even as messenger sallallahu sallam, he was a man, but he wasn't like other men. You know.
We don't go to a funeral discussion. He was a pleasure, but not like a devotion. He was the rest were like stones, and he was a Ruby. So relatively, we're talking about that. So anyway, what is the definition of a Sahih? Hadith?
He says here, there's 555 conditions. First is called it prasada. Sonic what's the translation? The new book? I don't think you have a here because this Yeah, it has even even in the food. Even if you have this is enough as a no, no, everyone's gonna book. First one is continuing to have the chain of transmission.
Is it continuing to have the chain of transmission?
first condition for a Sahih Hadith is in Arabic, you say it saw the Senate.
Okay. It does sort of Senate.
When they are checking, weatherhead, etc.
Remember, these are five conditions made by men, great men who had this one.
The first condition they put in, it's got, you can say five conditions or five characteristics, or five attributes of a head, it's a
continuation of the chain, Senate it defines.
What that means is basically
when they investigated the chain, it would need to prove that every person mentioned next to the, you know, every person person that or every narrative that's been mentioned in the chain has definitely heard or received, not heard, necessarily, because sometimes it's not hearing sometimes written format they give it that's why they use calaca has necessarily definitely received this hadith from the person above him. There's no disconnection.
Okay, so you have a chain, in which there's eight people.
Yeah, there's the author of the book, a momentary movie, for example. He says, I heard from my teacher who heard from this, heard from this narrator who heard from this narrator who heard from this narrator, who heard from this narrator, who heard from this web who heard from this hobby, who heard from the messenger sallallahu Sallam that he said, Now this is what they would rigorously check.
Imagine there's one person saying I heard from this person, but the one he heard from died 10 years before this person was born.
There's something fishy and dodgy here.
The shade who is saying is heard from
died in 433 century, and this one was born in fourth 53 hijiri 20 years after him, or the one he is narrating from, lived in Kufa, and he lived in Baghdad. He never left Baghdad and he never left Kufa. So where did they meet in dreamland? No, that's not possible. Even if they did, then that's not, you know, except it's not valid. You have to meet in real life, not dream life. A lot of people build the whole life on engine dreams, which is another topic altogether.
A lot of people are too obsessed of our dreams in this day and age too obsessed. Anyway, so
this is the sort of Senate continuation of chain. Have you understood why it's a solid solid means?
It's a solid solid means what every narrator has
received and obtained and gained this hadith from the narrator before.
And this happens from the beginning of the chain to the end of the chain. Oh, what is Senate 11 This is the meaning of continuation of the chain.
Opposite of continuation is of the chain is what
disconnection, disconnection will make this Hadees to be
non authenticated, you know, because if it's like this connection, so that some sort of disconnection So anyway, this is the first
They say in Arabic, I got a total Ravi.
establishing if you see here in your notes, establishing the uprightness of the narrator
Okay, now, I was just
establishing the upper idolater Robbie. Now the word Adela. And some people have names added. Yeah, I didn't mean it's just
but we don't use the word just because just is very specific. In Arabic. The word our data is very comprehensive, especially here. You know, this Adela means uprightness. Idle means that upright,
morally, ethically islamically, the person's good. Okay, now there's lengthy discussion that's going to come who is an upright and who consider somebody to be upright. But the second thing that we'll check first, once they've firmly established that every person has received the Hadith, there's a connection, then the second screening would be to check each individual narrator you start from the Sahabi no problem. You don't even need to go there. That's a habit. That's why they say gloom I do. They're all upright.
Unless if you're some hardcore from the Shia community, then you might have a problem with that. But that's another story.
But generally they say all the Sahaba What? upright? So no problem. You start from the top you're
the who is the standard a generally you don't have to do too much investigation because most of the most not all, yeah, I did adjust when Yusuf was technically at RBI.
It was a lot him so you know, it's not like all that our brains are upright, completely, some corrupted ones as well. That'd be nice just to follow somebody who was was happy, but generally,
so they investigate, and they will investigate thoroughly, like, absolutely scrutinized and that's why then you know, alongside I will mention this later on more but alongside after these five conditions alongside this science, of what is it Sahih the signs of
a smart or rigid came to existence, a smart religion. And a smart means names rigid means narrator's meaning because when you're trying to establish
each person then their biographies were then written in books.
This science is called a smuggler agent. It's also called a soldier who remember these words very important word German Jean raha German
and that ideal deal is from the word Adela that ideally means to consider somebody to be
a writer. I'm not gonna write this
right in Arabic.
A jar, okay. Yeah, we're
sorry for the people online we just who might have to miss out on something on the board. It's just, this is just
Okay, and just right, I dolla.
dolla, this is an Arabic You see, Adana, and added to Adela means uprightness, and the person who's upright is called ideal.
And this jerk jerk literally means wounding, your wounding his.
reputation someone's reputation is wound is not considered to be, it's like you're critically analyzing. This is an amazing science that came into existence side by side that some of the non Muslims oriental wrists, were in awe with the science. There was this guy who lived in the 1970s
I think 1970s, German orientalist professor of Islamic Studies,
doctors something Springer or something like that Springer, there was a very famous orientalist.
He actually made a comment on the science and he said that the Muslims have this amazing science of a Jehovah tidy. Critically analyzing the reporters just means criticizing them. The idea is judging them to be ideal. So either you say is a good person or a bad
That person, this whole science, Muslims have this unique science. You know what he said? He said this science is such that no one in history ever
has ever in the history of man, no one ever no community, no nation, no religion, no group has ever been able to bring such a science into existence. And neither until the world ends anyone I think we're able to bring a science like this, such that the Muslims have the detailed biography of half a million people preserved in the library is for half a million people.
Every minute detail, who is this person? Where was he born? Who was the teacher who was a student? You know, my new things did you use to wear leather socks on wipe on it? Every small, small thing critically analyzed and
taken some books, like for example,
we have a Can you see that Sierra? allama novella that's a whole 25 volume of the hobby. That's biographies. Then you have Dr. bhutta Do you have a few just a few on the science that you can it's a massive science with just books on what
critical analysis biographies of these all the heads all the Hadith reporters
Yeah, so this is called a Jehovah daddy. He said what half a million. It's like he said, it's like one of the wonder of wonders of the world. That today we have the biographies of
the my new details
and my new details to see to what extent is that one of them said yeah, he had been invaluable Medina or somebody was saying somebody said, when we used to go and these guys are major like in this field as well, there are like top top people in the hobby. Ali Abdullah Dini, yeah, been mine have been sprayed of kata, and these guys are like the top people in the science that dedicated their lives to the science of which one signs of danger who tardy or Allah smart or rigid. That's just the biographies that came into existence, side by side, this because when you're saying, we're looking at the second condition, remember coming back to the second condition, every narrator has to
be idle. So then the biographies have to be scrutinized. So you have been married or or live in Medina, one of those two said, when we used to, we used to go investigate. Yeah, as guys, when we need to go and buy a car, we'll go in a group and investigate or when we go to go and check.
HMC, you go and go and check things they went to different storage houses these guys just to see if they find an array data in a hurry.
Yeah, where was he living in Kufa. Alright. Con brothers this got
on the horse on the camel, have to goof off for a week why going to investigate such and such Ravi, they stay there seven days they stay in the community locality they find his brother if he's alive, or not, if he's alive, if he's not alive, his son or grandson to try to meet the old people, old women in the community, they do a thorough investigation. Who was he? What did you do everything about him to try to determine was this guy a reliable person? Could you rely on him as an orator of it?
So what happened mindset when we used to go and go and investigate and ask so many detailed questions about these people? Some people used to ask us that, why are you investigating about this person, so much has a proposal come to you for your daughter in marriage from this person? So you're finding you want to know so much about this person? So they used to say that no, no, no brother, it's more important than a moment that it is more important than the proposal. If our daughter went in the wrong hands, it's possible to get a laugh or something. But if Dean goes into the wrong hands, then it gets corrupted, it's more important and there would be more you know, like wary and
more careful in investigating then even giving the daughter to somebody like you know, you will find out about somebody or my daughter is gonna go to this guy who is you know, double triple like they would really investigate.
So, this is the science of our smaller jar. Okay. So
what's the second condition? unexplained all of this in a lot of detail Yeah, because this is a very important topics a lot of a lot of these gets understood by all of these things when things become easier.
So second, first one was what
continuation of change you understood that number to either a total Ravi Adela uprightness. Now what is they have a definition of uprightness as well.
Now the author will tell us a bit more things about it. But to understand that I have to tell you the definition of our data, because you won't be able to understand what the author is saying.
The normal data is the definition I have here, which have been, you know, in all the books ceilometer, McAuliffe, middle fishspy, will cover even more, this is not in this book, the very
definition, which is in the books of Mussolini. They say that the
that person that narrator, the macula, the legal responsible person, if you want to call somebody out in like, this applies to us as well. Any Muslim,
legally responsible person, you know, mukalla, who's a legally responsible person?
puberty, saying, etc, and uphill battle, and Muslim that's given you know, you have to be, you have to be a Muslim, of course. So, his Muslim McAuliffe, who's a Muslim, who's Balliol, and who's up in here who's reached puberty, they also discuss about whether Charles narrating is accepted or not, there's a bit of difference of opinion about that.
The author hasn't mentioned this in the book, but there's a difference of opinion. Some say, look, child has reached a level of discernment like he can, he's not puberty, but he can distinguish between right and wrong, who knows, if you give 50 pounds, or 50 pounds, and you get this much change? And you know, then if he narrates a hadith and is accepted, some said no. So this difference of opinion,
that's what the author is, a woman's going to, he's trying to explain to us in this point, we're gonna get to that there's difference of opinion about the finer details about
about the city. These five conditions I'm talking about, they all agreed upon. Nobody says, oh, there's six conditions or not this condition, these five what I'm talking about that everyone agrees on this. But then in application and finer details of these five conditions, there's difference of opinion. Now, when there's difference of opinion, somebody might think I did a study. And somebody might think the same because they disagreed in the some details of that.
This is what he's trying to say that look, you can't there's no independent. You can't just say, Oh, brother, this is a belief and you didn't ask me Well, there's a difference of opinion on what he had. He says,
This is what he's going to explain. So
the definition of added upright is what is it? This Muslim who's reached puberty? Who's
sane? He is someone who is free from Fiske apparent sinful activities. Nobody knows the inner details of anyone only Allah knows. yet but apparently,
he is not a facet. So he is not involved in this a first step
is somebody who does not
commit major sins on his forearm, Allah subhanaw taala, he doesn't continuously do my innocence.
Okay, so someone who prays fast that God had she doesn't know Lieber doesn't do backbiting doesn't drink, alcohol doesn't, you know, like, he is a sound Muslim, generally, he's not a facet. He doesn't come into major sins, they will investigate. And also Second thing, he is also free from those things that go against basic social etiquette, like things which are blameworthy, so they may not be sinful, how are immoral like, you know, demeaning or dis disrespectful things.
So like, the guy is not a classic, but he, you know, when he walks in the road, he jumps up and down like crazy. Or he drives a car like a crazy way, actually, that might be hard on but
you know, he's driving car like a crazy person to say this guy. You can't take it from him, because he's not a facet. But he's not free from Hawaii Mamoru. Like, how do you translate? How do you translate our numerous things that go against social
etiquette to consider social norms?
Yet Blaine, so he doesn't do blameworthy things. You might not be sinful. Like a good example is that in those and this also, the definition of this like war is against a ticket can change from time to time from place to place.
So like they used to be very careful, like some of them used to be very particular about not walking and eating in the middle of the road.
They saw somebody walking and eating, they would say, Okay, this guy doesn't qualify to be a narrator reliable. So he's happy to take
because walking and eating goes against
you sit down and
things like that, or like you know his habits. mannerism.
I mean, this is a lengthy topic. I was talking about this in the morning today that there's books written on this, you know that this applies to not just them. I was telling the students today that this applies to
all the scholars and students of knowledge.
This should apply to
So that you don't commit major sins and you don't do things which are disrespectful, this should apply to anyone, anyone associated with study of Dean.
So I was telling the students today and I had it for two days, I've been just talking about this 245 minute lessons yesterday and today, the same thing we're talking about how I remember, I told them this books written on this topic, you know, we wrote a book, you know, like in his introduction to the majority of
scholar, basically what are the etiquettes of a scholar and then he has a book called pseudo left Audible, which is just behind you, your head.
Just underneath that this is a book in Arabic written when the money was stolen, if that were published from Karachi, but it also permission the mask from gender. So in there has got a whole it's in Arabic, it's got a whole section
of a scholar about himself, what he should be scholars should have his Libous should be good, his Sierra, his surah should be good, you should stay clean. So like staying dirty is not Haram, but it goes against etiquette. So being filthy, smelly, that goes against its colorful Muruga he should have another bahara and things like that, also his car should be good. So, like his, he should make his habits his character, his mannerism in accordance with the sun, etc. Number three, he should also make his inner you know, his Nia if not all of that, and things like that, these are all articles
and lots of things that that he mentioned about and I remember he, you know, he like when he was studying this book, I remember he mentioned like an example. He said like some things are like, you know, like his he was saying I remember this example in class that he was saying that the other day, you know, there was a commotion near a taxi, one of
our students, this was in Pakistan. And so there was a commotion. So I was he was coming in as somebody, you know, this commotion going on, two guys are fighting the taxi driver. And when upon finding out found out that one of the students who's studying to become a Mufti is fighting with a taxi driver about five rupees.
move this up cough, punch repair page, Agra phobia, because that sounds just like a five rupees. A good scholar, you should be giving a tip. And this actually, I talked about this in class today. But this actually is one of the negatives that people have attributed to it's got an early time scholars used to give
enemies to run around money and act like beggars.
These two what is to give these to be noticed something needs to have self respect. So not like a freebie nowadays is like, as a scholar, yeah, makes it easy for him Islamic scholars, like me some kind of like some loser that I you know, I'm like a beggar.
If you're a scholar, you become a beggar. And this is really, really, it's not, it's not nice, honestly, it puts the scholars down. I mean, I don't know if you understand what I'm saying. But this is why, you know, I mean, there's a reason behind it as well, because scholars don't get paid, etc, etc, as well, I can understand that as well, there is that, but then
there's another counter argument to that as well, if you're a good scholar, you will get paid as well.
I've got a good whole discussion on this, that people say But yeah, scholars get, you know, peanuts, so they are gonna, you know, cry and beg for a bit here and there. And you know, and they want free things and everything free. Yes. But then I also say that if you're a good scholar, you will get paid. Like any anything professionally, if you've studied well, and you're a good good scholar, and you don't have to beg you can take money respectfully,
not to Tommy's and take money and do black magic and take money and, and you know, not not for
anyone can do. You don't have to take it and you don't have to rely on gifts or drawers or tabbies or just as to visit
sentimental money, no offer services properly, like you're giving proper service. And this is this is because like in every field, and if you're a good scholar, then people will respect those services because it's proper. Anyway, this is what I tell these guys a lot about this stuff in class. But anyway, that's not for you guys.
It was a talking about so that was an example he gave that as a student as a scholar, it showed it was disrespectful for him to be arguing about five rupees. And I said, Give them a bit more like why are you Why are you arguing about a bit of change? This goes against Moodle.
So it's actually recommended for people students of knowledge that, you know, if you go somewhere Keep the change, you know, two pounds or 20 pounds, like it's okay, keep the change, no problem.
You should do that, like us. You know, I think I missed the mentioned nine classes or before I did. You should do that. Like if especially if you're with Muslims, you know like in your community so they think this is guys of respect. We should do that.
Anyway so the definition of an ideal is basically this what's the definition now repeat gone
the who is an upright someone who
sane Muslim saying reached puberty? who stays away from major sense
yeah, so that is not a facet facet is someone who doesn't do major sins and doesn't continue to my innocence. And
yeah and his free from blameworthy you know things. Yeah. blameworthy things when they may not be sinful but they dislike distasteful.
Okay, like the examples I gave, like jumping up and down or arguing with the taxi driver, or,
or what like was an example again.
Yeah, remaining dirty clothes and stuff like that. Okay.
So this is the definition of
basically disgraceful acts and things that you know, to stay away from things which are considered to be disgraceful or degrading in the community.
For this year, muro. muro, muro.
muro means good etiquette, so not go against that.
self respect, dignity, you know.
as I told you, this is a very lengthy discussion.
We're just gonna about to just define it, sorry.
Number three, but it's important, this, this these things on what's really important, I'm really explained to like in thorough detail, these things are very important.
The third condition, so we said so far, continuity of the chain of transmission,
establishing the uprightness of the Narita, so everyone's an ideal, ideal is upright.
The conditions, other conditions here, okay, but I'm going to eliminate the third definition. Third, because this is like this difference of opinion about these conditions. So these are not all the five conditions here in your notes. He's just saying that there are differences about remember the finer details of these five conditions. So in the first condition, there's a bit healed. After we understand these five conditions, then we'll go in to see what are the differences in these five conditions. That's why I'm explained to first the five conditions, so that then you can understand the slight differences in them. So the third, third is when we say, Bob, right, Bob.
So I gotta just put number one.
Just next to a circle and just, yeah, just number two. Yeah, sorry.
number three, and then right afterwards.
This is a bob.
Yeah, da b t, o ba, ba, ba, ba ba.
The translation in there, I think is not correct in the English translation. Was he said the translation?
Yeah. He says here that the scholars have agreed that there's five number one, he said the n which are
Yeah, this accuracy is around translation. I missed. I missed it. I sort of missed it.
The word Bob does not mean accuracy. See the translators on top do you need to do topped in a proper lot of the wording.
I missed that. It just keep a note of that in the next edition interchangeable. So
okay, that's the third condition bopped dumped basically means preservation.
What does it mean? preservation. So when they are defining every we said continuation every neuron has heard from somebody else. Yeah, connected. Number two, we checked every single one was what every single rater was who?
An adult or an upright person, and we understood what an upright person is. Every one of them has to have this quality of loved and isn't far in the door like everyone had in the number two had to have a dialer. And the one who had Adela was called ideal. Everyone has to have dubbed and the one who has dubbed is called
Every narrator has to be number three. barbet preserver locked means preservation must not. It's a fine is called
the duel, but there's another technical term as well.
The doers of barbet preserve, preserve, meaning that this narrator has the firm ability to preserve this narration, either by memory, if it's through memory, then his memories really good. There's no weakness, his memory, okay? Or sometimes they still preserve it by writing. So, for example, if I heard it from the chef, and I've written it, and then I teach it to the students, from the time I heard it from the chef, till the time I related to my student, in all that time, if I was just doing it through my memory, then my memory was very, very good. There was no weakness in my memory. So they will do this third check, there was a very good in his memory, or if I was doing it by writing
then I was somebody who would keep and preserve my book and there was no way that I could, you know, raindrops would go into my book and you know that this magician, you know, I would make mistakes. So they would, you know, check this property that was did he have the quality of preservation? Was he a good preserve, most of them are doing it through memory, so they will check thoroughly the memory. That's why they said sometimes that this narrator is not reliable because his memory is not good. Some of the narrator's they were reliable until a certain age until age 57. This guy was reliable after age 57 he became an unreliable because he started forgetting things because his memory became
weak, etc, etc. So you'll find all these details, this narrator until this age was okay, so if you find him in a Hadith, and that had it was narrated by him, and when he was 57, then that had it was authentic, but what if you find him in a hadith and he narrated that heading after age 57 then this this same narrator now has become weak hence the Hadith has become weak etc, etc. so massive field this whole thing. This is just absolute basics here of this all this so deep these issues.
So these issues are really really deep and we haven't even started the basics properly yet. I'm just giving you like the absolute just imagine how much depth of all this knowledge would be.
And then somebody says things okay, but he narrated Abu huraira Buhari and Facebook, Mashallah.
So this is condition number three.
Okay, condition number four,
is what we see that So, you've checked, how do you this continuation at every numerators upright and every numerator has the quality of preservation, then you do two negative checks. So these were three positive things, then you have to do two negative checks. The fourth condition is that this hadith is free from something what they call shoe truth. right shoe to them.
What is it called? isolation. This there's a bit of detailed discussion on this what is isolation, but basically, you know, it's like,
once you've checked these three things, you're basically you know, you know, when you're filling in, like something on online, you know,
you go to next page next page, and you see that is it a bar is like, you're you're almost there, you're almost there 40% of your filling in is done. 50 This is a real like that. So it's like 2040 60% you're there. Okay, now, just a couple of more checks left. One is that then they will check this hadith is it has does he have should, he has to be free from isolation. Isolation means that this hadith is not opposing
another Hadith which is narrated by a group of people, there's a bit detail about but a group of people or somebody more authentic? Well, it's a group of people so it's not isolated. So there's one regenerating Hadith which goes completely contradictory to what seven eight narrators are saying about this hadith and they've, they've narrated it differently opposite to this, this one is saying yes, this is the prophecies and did it and those people are saying didn't do it. So this is called isolation. So if it's got this isolation is going against then that means it's not free from isolation and hence you stop there Okay, this it does not say okay. And, and then if it's free from
isolation, then you're almost there. It's actually this the final screening is called that it is called, it has to be free from what we call it a lot right now, Allah, Allah cada.
So fifth condition is that it is free from
Yeah, a defect
or irregularity or a defect, problematic defect, hidden defect, you know, this is this is there's actually books written, you know, each one of these conditions as books. And this final one is so delicate that normally people can't detect it like only the absolute expert had the number This was all done in that time. Only they would discover like some technical something they found out, it's like a final screen, that checked, continuation of chain, they checked, all the generators are upright, they check, they're all really good in their memory, really good memory. So the old preserving characteristics they have, there's no isolation as well. Finally, they just put it into
the screen, then it's just overall check. Is there something like suddenly the X ray to final X ray, basically, this is what alacati means there's nothing specific. It's like a final X ray, you put in the machine to do to some things problem. Sometimes they say they don't even know that something to to what's happening, but they don't know what that problem is, then they go and investigate what is that something that is a problem with this? This is the whole this whole This is why we use the term rigorously authenticated because it's gone through five major checks.
So now read that translation can't really you read
that read the whole paragraph. The general body of scholars agree that there are five conditions for a hadith to be considered rigorously authentic continuity of the chain of transmission establishing the uprightness of Narita establishing the accuracy of Yeah, this change the accuracy to the preservation of the Narita. Yeah,
that's actually wrong translation Yeah.
and soundness of the chain of transmission and text in that they are free from irregularities.
irregularity, for sure I said isolation for earlier. So you can use that irregularity better to use isolation and sound and free from
any serious defect. This is basically the definition of a hadith Sahih or it's not rigorously authenticated Hadith. Okay.
We're gonna end soon. Just to finish off this part, and then we'll go into next week we'll talk about the differences. Well, he also wants to talk about
so I've explained to you the word Sati means considered to be authentic or rigorously authenticated.
By a definition that was made by scholars, they made these five everyone agrees these are the five more or less everybody, these are the five major conditions. And then the author of inshallah, next week is going to talk about the slight differences in these five conditions like in the description of these five conditions, and that's where the differences are.
And I also said that it's not independently Sahih Aladdin and His Messenger sort of artist and didn't make something so he did. So it's like, so he according to somebody, all of that
and then finally, this point, that you know, when we say, when it is said, that this such and such Hadith is a very important point, when it this is the final point I'm going to make about this, when it is said that such and such Hadith is classed as are deemed as or judged as say,
yeah, listen to this point carefully. When it is said that such and such Hadith is judged us we should we should we should use the word judge does. Or the Aloma say its chain is judged. The respect is actually, you know, they say senator who sorry, because so that it doesn't seem like you're trying to say what the promise of the last of them said or not. So you say this Hadith, the chain of this hadith instead of saying this hadith is the chain of it is the heat or the chain of its weak because if you say this hadith is weak, sounds like what the professor Lawson said is weak, so slightly disrespectful, or maybe most likely or not, this could come across as disrespectful. So
we say this the chain of this hadith
and I also like to say that don't say the chain of this hadith is sorry, but say the chain of this hadith is classed as I use that word or deemed as or categorized or considered aside okay.
So when someone says this that this chain of this hadith is classified or considered or categorized or deemed or judged, have used five words as a sign
this basically this the final point, this basically means that technically speaking, based on this criteria and based on these five conditions,
this had it based on this criteria based on these five conditions. It is classified as site
Listen to this carefully classified us. Sorry.
in actual fact,
in actual fact, in reality
before I say in actual fact, okay, it's five.
The opposite of that, you know, I'll tell you also the definition of derivative yeah we can eat we can eat is basically when one of these five conditions is missing, then that Hadith is considered to be a weak narration, you must have heard of that. So, basically Sahih Hadith if I come to that point, listen to this again. So, he had this is the one with all five conditions are met, if four are met, and fifth one is not met, that has it is classified or deemed as Diouf if the first is not met and the format considered to be the eighth. So, basically the definition of Eve is when one of the five condition condition is not met give any one or two to that is definitely life even if one
is not met. Okay. So when it's when it is said that such and such Hadith is judged as it was such and such as judged us
there if this only basically means that technically speaking based on this criteria, this one is such and such is classified as a hate and such and such is deemed as weak, then it does not give you guaranteed that 100% in actual fact, the one that is he is definitely sorry, and does not give you 100% guarantee in actual fact, that the one that's judged and deemed to be weak is definitely weak.
Why? Because when we say the one listens carefully, when we say the one that's judged to be sorry, we're saying that based on this criteria, and we should follow this criteria, definitely, but we're saying based on this criteria, okay. Now, based on this criteria,
we've said continuation of chain, all the generators, number two have been considered to be upright. So there was one narrator upright. But one day, he just felt like lying possible, he could have lied. He was considered too upright, but he could have, he probably just made a mistake, or one of the owners forget the line. The third one is possible. One day he forgot they checked him. They checked his mind, they did a test scan of his brain, very good memory, but that one instance, he forgot.
So it's possible that in reality, the athlete is not sorry.
But technically speaking,
opposite the Eve, when we say ahaadeeth is the eighth. Yeah, we've said one
condition is missing, let's say which one is missing. The second one, second one is what? uprightness of the narrator so what happened was that when they were
scrutinizing the narrator, they found one guy to be a liar. So they said the Saudis died. But you know what a lion person once in his life might say the truth. The prophets of Allah holy Salaam, said Sadako in Kanika. Lubin about a time, you know, in a time there's a Sahabi said he told him to read it. Of course, he had night with a story. So the messengers of Allah said about a time that this guy's a liar, but today he spoke the truth. So even shaitan can say this. So this guy might be a facet. But on this one occasionally, just Well, I you know, does it mean that a lie will always lie?
So every dive head is doesn't necessarily in actual fact, 100% it is definitely something that our prophet SAW, some didn't say.
And the one that said he doesn't mean, without a doubt he did say it. Yes, the one that's most probably 95 90%. Most probably he did say it, the one that's judged us the most probably 90%. He didn't say it.
But in the survey, there's a possibility that he did not say it in the if there's a possibility that
it wouldn't be in the sorry, there is a remote possibility that
not in the one that he judged us IE, there is a remote possibility that
he did, the province of Assam did not say it, it's not really sad. And the one that someone says that he there is a 10% chance that the professor Watson could have said it could be sorry, but technically speaking, we've just judged this.
Okay, so therefore, then the scholars then they say, Look, when there's that 10% possibility, remote possibility of a derivative,
it could be so therefore, then they go into the look, they will talk about this later on that if that doesn't mean you always throw it away. What about that 10% possibility, and that 10% possibility, if it's given if you got another 20 indications of that 10% possibility. There's something in the Quran also supporting that 10% possibility. There's another headed somewhere there's a Sahabi was acting, doing something which is similar to this idea. There's another so many indications, that's supports the, the idea that this 10% might actually be quite good 10% and might become so that's all
Some imaams might say this halevi despite being weak, we're gonna act upon it. Because doesn't mean 100% it's the process of doing it. And then there's so many other indications showing that maybe he did say it excetera etc. So this is all technical things saying.
So anyway, these are the five conditions of a say,
okay, there was one or two other things as well about saying I didn't like it, but I think I'll just leave that.
I think I mentioned that before as well. You know,
I did mention this before that lips sometimes Yeah, I didn't do this last point about this. Sometimes a hadith is considered to be so he earlier on, and later on, it becomes a big
Yeah, you've got a hadith say in the time of in the fourth century.
There's a hadith the messengers of Allah Islam said something you live in in the fourth century? Yes, it was in him. Okay. Yeah. sagittis living in the fourth century. He heard it from somebody who heard from somebody who heard from metatheory from Sahabi. Protestantism said this, or the narrator's were scrutinized in the fourth century, Hades, for him is authentic, he said to his student, and then you kind of carried on after 900 years, 1000 years, the chain has become long, somebody in the chain, some facet guy entered it. Now, after 900 years, the same heritage was considered to be authentic in the fourth century, became considered now as the if, later on. So the
same Hadith in the earlier time in Mr. Abu hanifa. Time on Mr. Malik's time, a hadith could be absolutely perfectly fine. Because there's three four narrators. I think I mentioned this briefly. And the same Hadith, you might pick it up later on from Bukhari and Muslim and
a Muslim is like two 300 years later. Okay. The same Hadith in the third century might be considered to be weak.
Yeah, no, but this is Yeah, in the chain, Navy, something like what you're saying. But this is the point anyway. So this was this was a like a whole just summary of everything to do with psi, and explained everything in detail. The first point basically going back that he was saying that the first reason for difference of opinion is when does a deed qualify to be acted upon? when we're looking at Hadith? Does it qualify? The first thing you check is whether the Hadith is authentic or not remember, we started this whole course is about when is a hadith fit enough to be acted upon? Are you with me? When is a fit enough to be acted upon?
The first thing you look at is it's a he or not. And then we looked at what is sorry, what's the definition of the Sahih. And then now, the next week is going to go into the differences of the Imams in terms of these five conditions. So we'll look at the first as far as the first condition is concerned concerned continuation of chain, there's a difference of opinion. Some say this is important for continuation of chain, another mom says no, this has to take place or that has take place. And when they when they disagree about that, one Imam will consider it to be Sahib because the first condition has been met. And another Imam, for him that I do not disagree because the
condition has not been met because they disagree.
In the application of the verse chain.
This is where he's gonna mention like it because it's fresh. And I'll give you an example. You know, he said continuation of the chain. Each person remember taking from the teacher, remember I said one lived in coupon or one, the student was born 20 years after the teacher died. So there's disconnection. Now there's a massive difference of opinion between the two minimums among Buhari and Mr. Muslim, they disagree. is the biggest killer for Korean Muslim women Buhari is most strict. He says that look, if we want to we'll talk about this next week. If you want to prove that this discontinuation, then it has to be proven with proper witnesses that this student has met this shift
Yes, we proven Give me two three witnesses that he met him in this message or this place or this village of this city in Basra, Kufa, they have to be they have to meet. If the meeting is not stablished or proven anywhere, then I will not consider it to be continuation. Therefore, if I don't consider it to be continuation, hence, the first condition is not met. If the first condition is not met, and studies is not saying if the idea is not saved, then I'm not going to use it as proof for an issue of Salah.
Okay, my Muslim says no, no, that's too strict. My Muslim goes really like is it student number 40. But he opposes him and he brings his proofs and he gets really angry as well. And he says like what why are you still making this strictness
That, just them being in the same era, the possibility of meeting is enough, you don't have to prove that they met. As long as human he was living in the same era as him and they both were in the same city and you know, it's possible that they met. There's nothing showing that it wasn't possible. So the possibility of meeting is sufficient, don't make it too difficult that they have to meet. So the possibility is enough. Now Mr. Muslim might take a hadith he might say yeah, these two possibility of meeting therefore, according to me, this first condition is met if the first condition is met. Hence the Hadith is say, if the Hadith is say, hence, I can use it as evidence for such and such.
Now there's one Hadith Mr. Buhari will say this hadith is weak. My Muslim will say this, he decided
to just let you continue on Buhari Oh, Buhari. Well, you know,
you can't tell him a Muslim, Muslim. Why are you acting up in a weak Hadith? Well, that's according to my Buhari, not according to me.
isn't the point. You can't tell him I'm Muslim. I'm turning around and say to him, Are you acting upon a weak ID? That's like saying, you know, Marco hanifa is acting a point of weakness because nobody said that's like the same thing. You telling him a Muslim? You're acting upon a weak but that's weak according to mon Buhari, but not according to my Muslim because his criteria is different, not meet an actual meeting, but the possibility of meeting, etc, etc, etc. There's going to be lots of details. And it was a lot to take with your life, you know, absorb it and go through the trauma has any questions quickly. gone over, turn to the book.