History of Jews in Muslim World

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Salam aleikum wa rahmatullah, but I can't. So how you guys doing and welcome to the most inconsistent podcast in the world MH podcast, but actually, it's becoming a little bit more consistent. And I'm here joined with someone that probably to you guys does not need an introduction, but I'll give anyway, he's a historian is a person who is one of the premier debaters of the Muslim world. He has debated some of the top guys in the Christian world and other faith traditions as well. And has come on top I'm talking about none other than the one nollie nanosheet. How are you doing? Okay, which I like so much home? Of course, of course, man. You know, as I think

long overdue, a lot of people have been asking me to do this kind of things with you now, because we've got the conflict.

Let's not call it the concert. Let's call it the oppression of the Palestinian people. We've got the oppression of the Palestinian people, people is piqued people's interest in terms of exactly the history of Palestine, the history of Jewish people the history of, of the interaction between Muslim people and Jewish people. Today, we want to focus on some of the interactions between Muslim people and Jewish people because the narrative there is one narrative, which is quite sinister and insidious, which seems to indicate that the Muslim project, not Hamas, or any of these groups know the Muslim project itself, is one that attempts to kill off all of the Jewish people and that Islam

is intolerant of Jews, and that the historical record basically shows that. So how would you and you've debated this issue as well, with with prominent individuals and less prominent individuals as well?

How would you debate this issue? How would you make a build a case for the contrary point of view. So a lot of the Zionist propagandists they come up with this idea that Islam is inherently anti Jewish, this is what they claim. Therefore, we need a homeland, we need to protect ourselves. We need to take land from the Palestinians and build our own ancient homeland, or homeland that was ancient, we need to reclaim it, we need to take it back. And they quote, Biblical verses in this regard

to claim that they have position or they have right over this land. Okay. So we show them that Muslims ruled the land of Palestine in particular and much of the land around it for for nearly 1000 years, with an iron fist with strength, with military presence, with economic dominance, with educational

inspiration, and all those things. Muslims did great things, Islamic civilization or the Muslim civilization was one of the greatest things that happened in this region. Okay, the question now is, how did the Muslim civilization treat the Jewish people as an entity? Yeah, as a community? Yeah. And those Zionists who are claiming this today, propagandists liars out like outright liars, yes. Who claimed this, that the Jewish people suffered suffered under the rule of Islam. So we cannot be ruled by the Muslims. Okay? If the Palestinians want the land back, and

they want all of it back, the Israelis come back and say, You cannot have all of it back because you will kill all of us. Okay, for example. So when Yeah, for example, when people Palestinians, when they want this land back, the Israelis come back and say, Oh, that means a genocide of the Jewish people. This is the game a lot of these Zionist propagandists play deliberately, quite deliberately. They claim that if the Palestinians are to come back to the lands and take the lands lands back, that means automatically a genocide of the Jewish people, because Jewish people are not safe under Palestinians, or the Muslim people in general.

We want to undo that notion today. We want to present evidence to the contrary and show how the civilization of Islam or the Muslim civilization saved the Jewish people for over 1000 years. What do I mean by save the Jewish people saved them from whom? Okay.

Jewish people lived within the domain of Islam for over 1000 years. In fact, the majority of them lived within the domains of Islam. Some of them lived in Christian lands, and they were being persecuted. They were being killed off, they were being exiled. They were being brutalized. There are so many examples I can cite in this regard. In fact, to give you one example, a job

when the Muslims arrived in Spain

in the year 711, ce II

Jewish historian called Zion Zohar, who is an American Jewish historian. He writes, in his book, a history of Sephardic and Metroid jewelry on page eight and nine, he writes The Mystery of History of Sephardic and Mizrahi Jewry. Okay.

Basically, this is a history of the Sephardic Jews. Okay, Sephardic Jews are basically Jews who lived in the Middle East mainly or in the Muslim lands. Yeah. So in this history on page eight and page nine, he states when the Muslims arrived at Gibraltar in 711, C E, the Jewish people who welcomed them as liberators.

So who are they being liberated from is the question. Now, if you go back to Christian history of Spain, you will see in the year 633, see, almost 80 years before the Muslims arrived, there was a council, a Catholic Ecumenical Council held in the city of Toledo. This was called the fourth Council of Toledo, in this Council on 633. C. In this council, I mean, anyone can Google the fourth City Council 633 See, exactly a year after the Prophet of Islam passed away. Salallahu Salam, salam, okay. In this council, it was decreed by the Catholic Church, that all the children of the Jewish people are to be taken away by force. And they are to be converted to Catholicism, and are to be

raised as pious Catholics by Catholics. In other words, forced conversion of the Jewish people and the children.

This is the kind of persecution, destruction and brutality that Jewish people are facing in Spain before the Muslims arrived. Therefore, when the Muslims came in 711, see almost 80 years after this, this, this particular Catholic Council, the Jewish people welcomed the Muslims as liberators. And this is confirmed by Jewish scholars, Jewish historians today. Zohar is one of them, as quoted. So this was the attitude of the Jewish people who were being liberated from Christian persecution by the Muslims.

And this happened, even in the land of Palestine, when the second Caliph of Islam, our bill Katara, the Allah Juan, when he took the land of Palestine, from the Byzantines from the Romans,

one of the clauses in the treaty that was agreed upon between the Christians and the Muslims at the time was that the Muslims will not bring the Jewish people into the city of Jerusalem with them. The Christians did not want the Jewish people in the city of Jerusalem. The text of the treaty can be found in the history of slavery, okay, it is their rhetorical property, the text of the treaty is there. And one of the clauses put by the Christians, as a special request from the Muslims was that you will not allow the Jewish people to come and live in the city of Jerusalem. Later on having consolidated their power, the Muslims welcome the Jewish people into the city of Jerusalem to come

and live side by side with the Muslims. I'm Thomas Arnold Walker also mentions this in his preaching of Islam, as well as absolutely, absolutely Karen Armstrong, Karen Armstrong, who has written a history of Jerusalem. In that history. She specifically writes that it was under the system of Islam, whereby

the three Abrahamic faiths coexisted for the first time in history. It was under the rule of Islam. It was the system of Islam that facilitated this peaceful coexistence. Nor was it hijab, the question is not was it just toleration tolerance? Or was it prosperity for the Jewish people? Before we get there? Let's play devil's advocate, someone's gonna say, well, you're mentioning all the, the points where Jewish people were welcomed in. But if you look, for example, you talked about Spain, someone can just bring up them or head on and say, look them what had done were a very intolerant bunch. And in fact, they expelled the Jewish people and dealt them a very heavy hand. Absolutely.

There are cases, there are incidents whereby some Jewish people, some communities were targeted by some kings and some dynasties. But these were exceptional cases. This was not the norm of the Muslim civil, and you're not you're not denying that you're you accept that there have been some of those people because some of them say, well, in the beginning, you said there's always been good. But you're saying that there's exceptions to the rule, and you wouldn't discount those because someone's watching that say, but what about this? And what about first of all, we're not claiming a utopia. Yeah, we're not claiming a utopia. We're not claiming perfection. We're not saying that. It was

always 100%. Yeah, absolutely amazing. No, what we are seeing is that overwhelming.

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the overwhelming condition,

or the condition of the Jewish people was positive overwhelmingly okay to put it in the right way. Okay, the Jewish people from the very advent of Islam in Arabia, all the way up to the 1930s coexisted with the Muslims peacefully. In fact, they felt protected. They felt that they are prosperous, they felt that they are safe. This is examples of prosperity can you bring to the table and there are so many and I will quote some of the Jewish testimonies in this regard. Okay, if me and you sit here and talk today and speak on behalf of the Muslim civilization, and praising it, and paying lavish tributes to it, that's going to be seen as bias. Of course, okay, this is this is

basically prejudiced speaking, these Muslim propagandists sitting there in front of camera, exactly, I just, I'm not going to do that job today, I believe that what you've done is you've frankly, you've, you've caught an academic resource of a Jewish scholar. Absolutely. So far. That's what you've done. Then you quoted Karen Armstrong, who's an almost English scholar of academic exactly, and I have a lot more I have a plethora of quotes and testimonies from primary sources, Jewish rabbis and Jewish travelers who were living in those times in those places in those cities under those dynasties, what they had to say about the Muslim treatment was the Jewish people. And then

later on secondary sources, modern scholarship also confirms those testimonies. Only the Zionist project, only the Zionist project has a problem with this.

Only the Zionist have an agenda to reject this entire history. Only they question the notion of the golden age of the house of Israel under Islam, only they are the ones who questioned this, because it dismantles their propaganda. It does it dismantle the narrative, what is the narrative, the Jewish people are perpetually threatened by the the rule of Islam, the Jewish people, basically are in danger from the Muslims, or the Palestinians for that matter. Okay, we will show that throughout history for over 1000 years, the Jewish people not only lived peacefully with the Muslims, or under the rule of Islam, but prospered. So again, very happy and successful. You're at the seventh and

eighth century, you mentioned seventh, levelness, eighth century in that you mentioned, kind of like, the time of Omro hot tub, which is about the seventh century. So okay, you've mentioned what's happening, say in the Middle East, and all the way up to Spain in that period of time. Yes. Well, if someone says, Okay, that was in the beginning, but then things started taking a different turn.

That's not the case, because what we're going to do is I'm going to produce evidence from different places, yes. And different times, okay. And this evidence is going to give us pretty much the same picture, okay, that that condition of the Jewish people remained pretty, pretty good. Throughout the history of the Muslim civilization. Yes, there were incidents, where some Jewish people for a number of different reasons were targeted,

due to their political activism or other things, okay. And many of these things happen because of political reasons. Okay. But if you look at Jewish people, as a community, merchants, traders, scholars, okay, physicians, they flourished throughout the history of Islam, with the Muslims. And we're going to see the evidence in Sharla. Very quickly. First thing I want to very quickly bring to attention for everyone to see is how did the Jewish people feel under the rule of Islam? Okay. So the Zionist propaganda is that Jewish people are threatened, okay. They will never be safe under the rule of Islam over the Muslims. We will show that's not the case. To the contrary, if the Jewish

people ever flourished

throughout the history of diaspora, you know, a diaspora. diaspora is Jewish exile from the Holy Land. In the year 132 CE, am pro Hadrian banished the Jewish people from the land of Palestine on pain of death. If any Jew was found in the land of Palestine by the Roman authorities, after this decree that you would be killed on the spot. Yeah. Okay, so this happened after a famous revolt called the revolt of Bar Kochba. This took place when Emperor Hadrian, the Roman emperor, one of the most powerful Roman emperors was ruling from Rome, Hadrian, and the city of Jerusalem was completely razed to the ground and renamed iya after the name of the Roman emperor, Elias Adrianus. Okay, so

since then, the Jewish people were scattered all over the world. They were scattered This is what the Jewish people refer to as the diaspora. Okay? The

Jewish people suffered severely under the Roman rule. Firstly, and then the Christian rule because the Christians are also anti Jewish, anti semitic. Why? Because they blame the Jewish people are doing what? killing their God killing god. Yeah, okay what we call die side. Okay, so the Jewish people were accused of killing Jesus Christ. So his crucifixion, the crucifixion of Jesus Christ was instigated according to the Gospels, by the way, if you read the Gospel text, it has two people

blamed for the crucifixion and the brutalization of Jesus Christ, the Jewish people, the Rabbi's, the Jewish authorities of the city of Jerusalem, and the Roman authorities. Okay, so the Jewish people suffered first under the Romans, then the Christians came to power. After some Roman emperors accepted Christianity, they converted to Christianity, they started to persecute the Jewish people. It was not until Islam came to the scene that the Jewish people could find some respite, some refuge, some level of peace and tolerance, where they could flourish, where they could produce scholars points, merchants, traders, rabbis, okay, theologians, intellectuals, politicians, prime

ministers, prime ministers. To give you one example, in the ninth in the 10th century, the most powerful king in Western Europe was a man called Abdul Rahman the third, who was the Calif in Spain who ruled much of Spain.

And guess who his Prime Minister was, this was very powerful man called has the image uproot. Has the image uproot was the

the Prime Minister of the Muslim Calif. in Cordoba

because Cordoba was the center of the caliphate dominated caliphate in Spain. In 1929. Abdul Rahman, the third declared himself to be the Khelifa of the Muslim world. And his Prime Minister was none other than a Jewish man called has the image approved, has the image approved when he was the key the Vizier? Yes, the prime minister, he wrote a letter to the Jewish king of quasars,

which was a territory near Georgia today.

And he writes in this letter from Al Andalus, Praise be to the benefits of God for His mercy towards me, King of the earth to whom his the calyx, magnificence and power are known, bring gifts to Him conciliating His favor by costly presents, such as the king of the Germans, and the king of the javelin, the king of Constantinople and others, all thy gets passed through my hands, and I am charged with making gifts in return. Let my lips Express praise to the God in heaven, who so far extends his loving kindness towards me without any merit of my own, but in the fullness of His mercies. I always asked the ambassadors of these monarchs about our brethren, the Jews, the remnant

of the captivity, whether they have heard anything concerning the deliverance of those who have pined in bondage and had found no rest, basically, has the image uproot was, we find that if someone says, what's the source of this thing, we will put the source in the comment section. Okay. We will put all the sources the entire text of these quotes. In the first comment, the pinned comment of this video, people can go and check out the sources, okay, because we're going to be putting out a lot of stuff here. Okay. So people can found the secondary and the primary sources. I am quoting from Ponce de Bucha. Pruett is the prime minister of Spain, Islamic Spain, writing a letter to his

Jewish counterpart, the king of case ours in Khazaria. Last, because he is currently Georgia close, close to Georgia. Okay. This territory became Jewish. It's a long story in the case I was yeah, they are Jewish converts. Well, the whole thing Yeah, the whole the whole territory. The king became Jewish. And his people also followed him into Jewish tree. No, this is the ninth century in particular when the people converted the eight hundreds is very interesting. Very interesting. Yeah.

So how's that had found about found out about them? So has they is right writing to the kings of King of K Lars

asking him whether they are the last Jewish tribes, which launched last Jewish tribes in 721 BC. Yeah, the Assyrians attacked not the northern state of Israel. Because after Solomon, King Solomon, Solomon, Allah Salam, and when we say Israel here 721

This Israel is basically the Israelites 10 tribes ruling a territory. They're called Israel. This is edit Israel, right? Yes, that's right. This is because the word Israel didn't really I mean is the land of the Israel's? No, it was a state because after Solomon, King Solomon ruled a confederacy of 12 tribes of the Israelites after he died, the this confederacy basically split into two, two states. In the south, we had Judea. William from the capital of Jerusalem. And in the north, we had Israel consisting of Henckels Israel or Israel, the state, they call it the State of Israel. Okay. It wasn't the current state of Israel, because they were religious people. They were Israelites.

They had prophets among them. Okay. So their capital was Samaria. Okay, which is built Monday what modern day is close to it's in Palestine? Yeah, it's in Palestine. Okay. So 721 A Syrians are north.

This this basically dynasty or this? These people are Syrians are ruling territory in northern Iraq, parts of Turkey and parts of Syria. They were called the Assyrians. Okay. A Mesopotamian

civilization. They attacked the the northern

country of Israel. They took these 10 tribes into exile. Okay, and these 10 tribes disappeared from history forever. So here's the image of Ruth was actually inquiring about these 10 Lost Tribes of Israel.

Okay, so how do they bunch up Ruth was a very powerful man, why am I quoting Jose? And what he said about his own position that he was the visitor, and he was receiving all the gifts for the K lifts, and he was returning these gifts to the king. So on behalf of the cave, so this is a very powerful position. Okay. Clearly someone marginalized, someone who is disliked or hated, wouldn't be in this position. That's the point I'm making.

Moving on.

Okay, another character who had similar

powerful position, a similar power position in Spain was Samuel Ibn now Grella Samuel Obernai. grilla was a very powerful diplomat, politician, and the Prime Minister of the state of Grenada, okay, in southern Spain,

and one of his biographers called Abraham Ibn dowload. Writing, you know, in the 12th century, a Jewish chronicler, he elaborates upon hundreds, six significance for the spread of the Jewish tradition. Samuel Abran, Agrella was also called her nugget, okay.

So he writes, he achieved great good for Israel in Spain.

The Margaret Africa, Egypt, Sicily, indeed, as far as the academy and Babylonia and the holy city, the Academy of Babylonia was in Iraq under the rule of Islam, by the way, the Muslims ruling Iraq at the time, okay.

He provided material benefits out of his own pocket for students of Torah, in all these countries, Muslim countries. Yeah, this is a Jewish Prime Minister in Islamic Spain, in the state of Grenada, who is doing all these benefits.

Samuel, this is the we're talking about the 11th century. Okay. 1060s okay to be precise, okay. Samuel Han Argote. Samuel Ebert, Nigella unagi. Okay. So he basically he was benefiting not only his own people in Spain, Islamic Spain, where the Jewish Jewish people were living at the time, he's benefiting all the Jewish people living in Margaret, currently Morocco, a freakier, which is Tunisia, Egypt, Sicily, and even as far as Iraq and the holy city, which is Jerusalem, yep. Okay.

So Abraham, even doubt goes on to say he provided material benefits out of his own pocket for students of Torah, and all these countries.

He also purchased many books of the Holy Scriptures, as well as of the Mishnah and Talmud, which are also among the Holy Writings throughout Spain. And the countries just mentioned, whoever wished to devote full time to the study of the Torah found in him a patron. Moreover, he retained scribes, who would make copies of the Mishnah and Talmud, which he would present to students who were unable to purchase copies themselves,

both in the academies of Spain as well as of the other countries. We mentioned. These gifts were coupled with annual contributions of olive oil for the synagogues of Jerusalem, which he would dispatch from his own home. He spread Torah abroad.

Warden died at a ripe old age after having earned four crowns, the crown of Torah, the crown of power, the crown of Levite. And the towering over them all, by dint of good deeds in each of these domains, the Crown have a good name. Samuel been no Grella her nuggets, the prime minister of Grenada in Muslim Nazareth dynasty, okay, helping all the Jewish people in Muslim territories who are living in peace and harmony in Morocco, Tunisia, Egypt, Jerusalem as far as Iraq, because so powerful was this prime minister, he was helping students of the Torah, the Mishnah, and the Talmud, the Jewish tradition. In other words, he was trying to promote Jewish scholarship, Jewish theology

by patronizing all of the students and scholars in all the Muslim territories, these Jewish scholars we're living in, what does that tell you his job? I want your commentary on this. What does that show? You know, right now, this is very, very edifying, because a lot of people will be thinking, I mean, for Jewish person to even reach this level of political authority. I mean, you can't argue persecution out of here. Can you sort of you know, and this is, as you're saying, it's kind of like going into effectively this the Golden Age? Yes, golden age of, and I think this this will be classified as the golden age of Islam, and also the golden age of do days and result. Would you

agree with that? Absolutely. 100%. And guess what? Job? Jewish scholars themselves have said this. I mean, my montages, when did he, my monitor is was born in the 12th century and Cordoba. And then he had to leave Cordoba, due to a very difficult situation there. Because the new dynasty had come in the isle, known as MOBA, dune or Almohads. They had persecuted not only the Jewish and the Christian people, but the Muslims as well, right. So many people escaped. So my monitor is escaped to what, to where? To Muslim lands. Yeah, he fought he left Cordoba for way. Egypt is here, a human Egypt and became you don't be a surgeon or something. He was a he was he was a private physician to the Sultan

himself. Who's Michel tan. So tan Salahuddin, the famous salary. Yes. So my monitor is having left Spain. I'm Muslim territory for another Muslim territory in Egypt, where he became the private physician, the private doctor of Sultan Salahuddin Allah UB. So my mother is, stands as a towering figure in Jewish history is called the second Moses is also called the Rambam. Okay, he's known as Rambam within the Jewish tradition, and the reason why it's called the second Moses is, also name is Musa. Yeah, exactly. He's Arabic name is Musa bin Mamoon. He even wrote his books in the Arabic language using Hebrew characters. I read a book of his actually as a guide to the perplexity. Yes,

yes, a guide for A Guide for the Perplexed because he writes about Kalam and stuff like exactly very, very, I guess what a lot of that stuff was taken on Muslim philosophers

and represent. So he was heavily inspired by Muslim philosophy of the time. He wrote in the Arabic language, he was pretty much a Muslim philosopher. Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, almost the arguments are very similar, to be honest.

But what was the situation of the Jewish people in Spain? I mean, one can argue that oh, these were prime ministers, you mentioned as the image upload, you mentioned Samuel, the bin Agrella, Hannah agate. And these people were very powerful. No doubt. One was a visitor and Prime Minister in Cordoba. The other one was, I was here in Grenada. Okay, the the capital city of the Nasrid dynasty of Grenada. What about the common Jewish people living in Spain? Yeah, time. Yeah. Let's go to Rabbi. Okay, let's go to a Jewish rabbi writing in 1080s. Okay. In the city of Cordoba, so very famously, was this you know, this was again, the the aftermath. This was a moo moo, kata wife,

period, okay, when Muslims had already pretty much split into many different small dynasties in Spain. This is after the Umayyad caliphate had already fallen. Okay. Okay. So we talked about the vizier, the Prime Minister of the United States, speaking from Cordoba, in the 10th century. Let's go on to the next century 1080s in the 11th century by Eben pakoda, a Jewish rabbi, he writes from the city of Cordova, in the year 1080, to be precise, and I quote him in his Kitab al hedaya. He wrote a treaties, okay, titled cuttable hedaya. In this book, this Jewish rabbi writes, if one of our contemporaries looks for similar miracles now, let him examine objectively our situation among

the Gentiles. Muslims in this case, since the beginning of the diaspora and the way our affairs are managed, in spite

of the differences between us and them, both secret and open,

which are well known to them, let him see that our situation as far as living and subsistence are concerned, is the same as theirs or even better. So by up in Bakula writing in 1080, from the city of Cordova, is saying that as far as the living conditions are concerned, we live better than the Muslims, our living conditions are better than the Muslims. Now, this is absolutely amazing. This is fascinating how the Jewish people having having been liberated from the Christian persecution of Christendom, our Christian territories felt so safe and happy within the non Muslim territory. Now, one can argue that oh, this may be, you know, what I'll do to the goodwill of the ruler, or the

dynasty, or maybe the culture of Spain, where we can move on to other territories? Well, someone will say, Well, he's talking about, you know, Spain, some, some historians refer to this period as a period of competencia. Exactly together and all that kind of stuff. Yeah. So so maybe it was the culture, it was the culture. And that's it. And in fact, some some scholars and so that's, that's the West, you're talking about, actually, they've had the Western influence? Not really, because the West was absolutely devastating for the Jewish people. Let me very quickly explain okay, what was happening in the west of the time here, this is the same time and the Crusades are taking place,

pretty much about the same time right. The Crusades started in the 11th century, soon after by Ben Bach, who was writing in Cordova because he was writing in 1080s. Right? And crusade started in 1090s 1095. To be precise, when Pope opened the second delivered a speech a promo on an in instigated the Crusades. In 1099, the Crusaders took the city of Jerusalem now, so much hate was found among Christians of the math. In Germany, France and Britain to be precise, because Eastern Europe was pretty much barbaric. They were still semi civilized with me, Bob Rice. Okay, you know, yeah, all these would really have a problem with this as they know. But that's that's a historical

fact. They say this, you know, that's a general sweeping generalization. No, it's not because because we don't know anything about Lithuania and Poland, and all these territories from Silence, they'll say, but we would have any if we had any text, any literature, we would know about it, right? There's nothing it's like the Vikings. You know, the Vikings. We don't have anything from the Vikings. Unfortunately, as beautiful as the artwork was, okay, we have found the tools, the weapons, some of the money they buried, we have found all of that we have found the boats, okay, some of the helmets, their work. They were capable of artwork, but we don't know any. We don't know anything

about them. Likewise, Eastern Europe was pretty much in darkness in that sense, in that sense, right? But Germans and the French and the British had already taken Catholicism as their religion. Okay. They were heavily persecuting the Jewish people, low Jewish people who existed with the Christians in the northern territories in Northern Europe. Okay, they suffered severely. So, when the Crusaders left their homes, to go and liberate the holy land from the Muslims, every Jewish town, their past, they massacred the Jewish community of Rhineland in Germany was completely decimated, was completely destroyed. Okay, the Jewish people were completely wiped out in Germany.

In fact, those bishops and church men who tried to save them, they were also burned with the Jewish people by these angry mobs of the Crusaders.

Similarly, later on, Richard the Lionheart when he announced his crusade against saltpans alladhina UB, how did he start his crusade he started, he started it with the Jewish people of London. A massacre against the Jewish people of London was conducted when Richard was the king. It doesn't stop there. Even afterwards, when Edward the long shank or Edward the first, the very famous king, you know this movie everyone's seen it Mel Gibson's movie, right? Braveheart without me okay, the king depicted on that that movie is the king I'm talking about wildly inaccurate movie. It is it is of course, it's not historic. Movies are not generally entirely historic, okay. But there is a king

depicted in the movie called Edward the launch Jack. Okay. This king also banished the Jewish people from Britain, confiscated the properties took their money because he needed money for his castle building program in North Wales. So he needed the money and he banished the Jewish people. Likewise, the King of France also banished the Jewish people in the 13th century, similarly to what Edward did in England. So the Jewish people, the question is, where were they finding refuge in Muslim lands, in Muslim territories in large numbers. That's why many Jewish historians said this repeatedly that the majority of the Jewish

People lived under the domain of Islam for over 1000 years. They mentioned Zion Zaha who else would like Jewish what other Jewish historians have said that we will see? You will be completely fascinated. So that's why I'm moving chronologically. I'm going with a chronology. Okay. I'm mentioning these things from different places, from different times, so that people don't think that we're just making things up. Yeah. So what's happened inside with 711? Yeah. Okay. But before that you went really spoke about I'm gonna talk a little bit. So that's, yeah, seven centuries. Maybe was 646 50s. Yeah. And then afterwards, you mentioned Titans yet? Yeah. And his conquest and 711. You

mentioned before that before 711. You mentioned that the council of $3.60 6% 633 683 whereby it was mentioned that the force conversions. So we have here already a kind of preamble of what's going to happen. Yeah. 711 came along. And then you mentioned Zions OHA signs or her stating and PJ in his book, history of the Jews, or history of jewelry, that he mentioned, that they considered the Muslims coming in as some kind of Liberator liberators, yes. And then then you mentioned we kind of skipped a couple of centuries, but went to like the the, say, the 11th century. And we talked about some of these was years, if you like in the Cordoba and Granada. Yeah. The point was that the Jewish

people had had reached such powerful position. Yeah, that they were they couldn't they couldn't possibly be marginalized. It couldn't be

persecuted. And what you've done that just now is you've spoken about what the alternative really was in this Western Europe. So you spoke about Richard the Lionheart around, let's say, the 11th century, the end of the century, then you mentioned, Edward long shank, as well. So the Jewish people always lived in a state of fear in the Western world, in Western Europe, in northern Europe, okay. As late I'm gonna accuse you of being general generalizing No, I am not because because the Jewish historian will confirm this. And we will see, when I read the court, you will be completely blown away, you will be shocked to find

that the Jewish people, the Jewish historians themselves stated that the Jews suffered severely under the rule of Christian kings and dynasties. No, it was under the rule of Islam where they found refuge. The Muslims gave them refuge for over 1000 years for them to survive and flourish. We also got to cover the Ottomans as well. Yeah, we've spoken a lot about we've spoken somewhat about, you know, the LF Asha. Yeah, yeah, the, the Rashidun caliphate. We've spoken a lot about the Spanish. Once again, there's going to be all that kind of discussion about bias because it's in Europe and European

kind of perogative that they'll say, Well, that's because it's an odd continent kind of thing. And what what am I the Ottomans? I mean, someone will say what about the Ottomans yet? We haven't got to that yet. We haven't got because this is why I'm moving with

rough chronology. So my moto is when was when did he when was zero century? Yeah, well, century. He died in 2004. Okay, so he died in the 13th, early 13th century. He died in 2004. But he was alive in the 12th century. He was born in Cordova, and died in Egypt under the rule of the ubit. Okay, so another Jewish traveler, called Benjamin to della Benjamin of Tudela from Spain, a Spanish you who travelled to Baghdad in 1168. See, again, the 12th century describe the situation of the Iraqi Jews. In these words, he states in Baghdad, there are about 40,000 Jews. And they dwell in security, prosperity and honor under the great Calum. And amongst them are great sages, the heads of the

academies engaged in the study of the law. Could one argue that this is good? What can one argue that? Well, this is he had to say that because if you didn't say that, and it was published, the the authorities of the time would have killed him. When he wasn't even published publishing for these authorities. This he had written when he came back to Spain. So he was in security. He was writing for his own audience for his own people. He's simply testifying to the peace and prosperity of the traveler, strengthen. Exactly. So he came from Spain, he was a Spanish Jew who traveled to Spain. And I'm assuming, like a kind kind of or he probably he could have traveled for two reasons trading

or seeking knowledge of the law. From the sages. He mentioned in this quote I see for in Baghdad or in Babylon, this the oldest Jewish community dynasty was this. This was the Abbas is the cave at the time was almost pungent. The Kailash at the time ruling was almost Sanjay who ruled from 1160 to 1170 C, okay. So is this one that when the Ayyubid was also established Exactly. Are you not around yet? This is the zenkit period.

It's Mr. Dean stinky. And it's unbearably stinky. Uh huh. So, yeah. So Don Saladino, you'll be still a very young man at this time. So when Benjamin Tudela when he traveled 1168 is the year so Tom Saladino, you'll be would be by this time 31 years old. Okay, because you were born in 1137. So the Ayyubid dynasty was established, what? 30 years after that? Yeah. Yeah, pretty much. Yes. Yes. So, so this is this is, this is, this is not the ubit period yet. So but the abaxial weekend assignment Exactly. But the Caleb did rule the territory of Baghdad or around Baghdad, so the KDF had power. That that's why he mentioned the Caleb that the great Calif. And amongst them are great sages, the

heads of academies engaged in study of the law. So he's talking about the Jewish rabbis in Iraq, who were the most ancient community, the Jewish community in the world, really, since the Babylonian exile.

That took place in the sixth century BC, to be precise, 587 BCE when the Babylonian king Nebuchadnezzar took the Bible. Yeah, the exile the famous bit Babylonian exile into Babylon into Iraq, Babylon was Iraq, okay, whereby the entire Israelite population, whatever remained of the Israelites, because the 10 tribes are already gone. Remember I mentioned Assyrians came in 721 CE, sorry, 721 BC, before Christ that took the entire population into exile and they're disappeared from history. We have no idea what happened to those 10 tribes of the Israelites. What remained was two tribes, the Benjamites and the Levites. They were taken into exile by the Babylonians in 587 BCE.

And this was the first time when the Temple of Solomon, much of the Aqsa was razed to the ground. This was the first destruction of the temple. Okay. So since that time,

the Jewish people, some of them never left Iraq, even throughout the Muslim period, the Jewish people remained in Iraq, and the best Jewish scholars, the best rabbis were born in Iraq. The Babylonian Talmud was authored in Iraq and it was finished during the Muslim period. Really? Yes. It was finished during the Muslim Muslim Muslim period. Okay. Just around the Muslim period. Just comes you know, when it started.

It was very difficult to say when it was started, okay. It was I mean, there are there are two Palestinian Palestinian under the Babylonia and this is that they say that Palestine was not an entity or not a word. Yeah, they have a ton of Palestinians. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. Right. Okay. So the Babylonian Talmud was pretty much completed when the Muslims had already taken our Iraq. Yeah, okay, from the Sassanid. Empire. And these Jews remained in Iraq until the State of Israel was created. You see, the point I'm making is that the Jewish, the best Jewish scholars, the top most Jewish Academy in the world, Daro, Lifta, where the fatwas are coming, the rabbis in Iraq, we're

delivering fatwas for the entire Jewish community in the world, even British Jews during the Middle Ages, when they had questions. They wrote letters to the academies of Babylon. They called it Babylon. It was Iraq during the Muslim period. So I'm pretty sure Benjamin Tudela came for similar reasons to even learn for either learn from the scholars in Baghdad or in Iraq, or for trading purpose. But the point here is security, prosperity and honor three words he mentions very specifically, Benjamin to real estates in Baghdad, there are about 40,000 Jews, and they dwell in security, prosperity and honor. This is a Jewish traveller from Spain, testifying to the security

prosperity and honor of the Jewish people living in Iraq with the Muslims

moving forward.

In 1420, a rabbi called Yitzhak Safar. So what what we're talking about here, what what dynasty, are we talking about? Not Ottomans? Yes. Okay. Oh, we're very close to the Ottoman periods. I mean, the ultimate law established here. Yeah, yeah. Pretty much. 1299. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So he writes. Okay. In 1420, Rabbi, Yitzhak Sarfati, wrote a letter to his persecuted German brothers from the Ottoman Turkish territory, a journey from a journey. He's writing from attorney, a Jewish rabbi, Rabbi living with the Muslims and attorney writes to his German counterparts, inviting them to join him in prosperous and tolerant

Aren't Islamic lands. And he he writes and I quote, your cries and lemons have reached us. We have been told of all the sorrows and persecutions, which is suffering German lands. Listen, my brothers, if you knew even that 10th of what God has blessed us with in this land, you would give heed to no further difficulties you would embark at once to us here the Jew is not compelled to wear a yellow hat as a badge of shame. You will be free of your enemies here you will find peace.

Rabbi Itzhak Sephardi Okay, sovereignty, sovereignty, exact sovereignty writing in 1420. Okay, from a Danny from the Ottoman territory when the Ottomans are ruling attorney and Dona Paul. Okay. And he writes to German Jews to invite them to that territory, why are you suffering in Germany? So there was suffering in Germany from all the way back in the 50s? Absolutely. I already told you that. during the Crusades, Germany in particular, like it was yes, yeah, Germany was never friendly to the Jewish people. Is there a reason for that? Or? i We don't know. We don't know. There are many books written on this. By the way, there are chunky volumes written by Jewish Astoria, about the

persecution that Jewish people faced in Christendom in particular, but they will say that Jews were enslaved at this time in Garrison's and all that. No, no Jews, generally speaking, indulged in usury. Okay, giving debts to people against heavy usually, and this is why many the many of the Jewish rabbis and the Jewish merchants were hated. Okay, you can see that in Shakespeare's Merchant of Venice, right? Okay, that that depiction is, is there as far as as far as as late as the 16th century? Okay. And it continues? Was it the case that Catholics were not doing usually like that? Because there were Catholics doing it? Yeah. But many kings throughout the Middle Ages use Jewish

people for this purpose. Okay. They were, they were called kings Jews, in many different places. The masses hated them, because of this indulgence in God. And whenever the masses found an opportunity to massacre the Jewish people, because they were not allowed to indulge in any other trade, the Jewish people were not allowed to indulge in any of the trades. So they had found usually, as a way out, okay. And it made them you know, live with relative with relative ease, because in Jewish law, it's not allowed to do usually with other Jews, but you can do usually with non Jews. Yeah, this is a separate topic. This has to do with the Talmudic position or the Islamic position is that you

can't do it. Absolutely annual Islamically we cannot do usually at all full stop, give us Yeah, it gives them all receive exactly Muslims or non Muslim, Muslims or non Muslims give or take. No, usually. No, usually. But in the Jewish law, the situation is different, of course, and this is what Jewish rabbis can comment on. Okay. So we were dealing with history right now. So let's talk about another quote from another rabbi and Italian Rabbi Obadiah era de but in oral Obaldia Yardi sorry, da Abadia Yara dobbert in Oro travelled to Jerusalem in 1486 when the Mamelukes are ruling the city of Jerusalem, okay, because the Ottomans only took it in 1516. Okay, so to this time, in 1486, the

Mamelukes are ruling the city of Jerusalem Muslim dynasty.

He wrote a letter to his father telling him about the country and its people. And he writes,

The Jews are not persecuted by the Arabs in these parts.

I have traveled through the country in its length and breadth, and none of them has put an obstacle in my way. They are very kind to strangers. Unlike what the Israelis are doing today,

particularly to anyone who does not know the language. And if they see many Jews together, they are not annoyed by it. In my opinion, an intelligent man versed in political science might easily raise himself to be achieved of the Jews, as well as of the Arabs. So what is this Italian rabbi, having been to Italy having, having lived in Italy, the contrast he founds in medieval of Jerusalem is that the Arabs are very kind to the Jewish people in these lands, they are not alarmed by Jewish assemblies. And if you become learned in political science, for example, if you become a politician, you can be very powerful you can raise to higher higher ranks, even among the Arabs

Okay, in other words, there was no Arabian apartheid.

There was no Muslim apartheid. The Muslims did not treat the Jewish people as riffraff as dirty people to be thrown around. Or as someone degraded, someone who looked down upon No, the Jewish people are very prosperous, very powerful, very happy, very, very rich. In terms of economic capacity. This is what this Rabbi saying. We have a lot of evidence to go through. So let's move on very quickly. Okay. So

I will also quote another Jewish rabbi. Okay. Actually, this is about

this is yeah, this is another

a Jewish historian called Elijah kept Saudi who describes the Jewish prosperity in the Ottoman Empire in the following way. Okay.

The Jews gathered together from all the cities of Turkey, both foreigner each person coming from his own place and community gathered in Constantinople in his 1000s. And it's 10s of 1000s. The heavens helped them to the heavens helped them to and the king provided them perfect estates and houses filled with all kinds of goodness, the Jews resided there with their families and the clans, they were fruitful and swarmed and multiplied, and the land was full of them. From that day on, whenever the king conquered the place where there were Jews, he would immediately shake them up and drive them from there and dispatch them to Constantinople, the seat of his kingdom, and he would pick them

up and cuddle them forever. Now, since the Jews feared the Lord, he provided them with houses filled with all kinds of goodness. In a place where formerly at the time of the king of Byzantium, there were only two or three congregations, the Jews increased in numbers, becoming a people with more than communities, for the land could not support them altogether, for their prosperity was overwhelming.

This is during the Ottoman period in constant time, Elijah, Elijah kept Sally prosper. This is

their prosperity is overwhelming. This is unbelievable. Designers have an audacity to claim that they

are either Jewish people are threatened by Islam, Muslims or Palestinians for that matter.

The Jewish people lived in these territories for more than 1000 years without any persecution without any torture. The Zionist project disrupted the entire piece the Zionist came in, given having given this land by the British, the land didn't belong to the British. They gave the land to the Zionist project. And the Zionist committed the atrocities that are unspeakable. That cannot a human being cannot imagine the kinds of things that did mass murder of the Palestinians. 1 million people driven out of their homes. Okay. When did the Muslims do this to the Jewish people is the question. When did the Muslims ever do this to the Jewish people? To the contrary, Muslims protected

the Islamic civilization throughout its history, whether the dynasties, the Ottomans, the ubit or the Americans in Spain, the Jewish people felt secure and prosperous under the rule of Islam. This is the point that needs to be noted.

So, we will move on very quickly.

And we will see that it doesn't stop there.

Another Jewish migrant

the Portuguese Jewish chronicler, Samuel OhsC. Okay.

Because the Jewish Chronicle as themselves testify to the Muslim kindness towards white people. Okay, this is again, I will check when he was writing. I'll get back to you but people can check. Samuel asked again.

He was a Portugal, Portuguese Jewish chronicler, Portuguese. His name was Samuel OhsC. He shed some light upon the Jewish migrants condition in the city of Salonika, which was under the Ottoman rule. Salonika is currently in Greece, but it was ruled by the Ottomans. And so long as the Ottomans ruled, the Jewish people had one of the most flourishing communities in the city in the city of Salonika, also known as Thessaloniki. Okay. It's in

Northern Greece. He writes, Samuel Oskar writes, the majority of my children who have been persecuted and exiled from Europe, and many of the parts of the world have taken refuge in this city. And she embraces them

and receives them with as much love and goodwill as if she were Jerusalem, that old, an ever pious mother of ours.

That old and pious mother of ours, Jerusalem under the rule of Islam, because it's been under the rule of Islam for nearly 1000 years already when Samuel Oscar is writing, okay, and he is equating Salonika with Jerusalem when it comes to peace, prosperity and security for the Jewish people. Certainly God was at this time ruled by the Ottomans when Samuel was writing, okay. And other Italian Jewish travelers, David De Rossi, okay. And Italian Jewish traveler called David De Rossi writes, he traveled through the Ottoman Empire during the 16th century.

He documented his observations about Jewish people living in suffered as follows Sofia is basically the Muslim character, you can say, the exile here is not like our homeland. The exile here is not like our homeland. The Turks hold respectable Jews in his team here. And in Alexandria, Egypt, Jews are the chief officers and administrators of the customs and the kings revenues. No injuries are perpetuated against them. In all the Empire only this year in consequence of the extraordinary expenditure caused by the war against shatta. Musk, a Sufi word the Jews required to make advanced advances have launched to the princess.

So he's saying the Jews were so advanced and so rich. That was here. What was the Chronicle? I said? No, he was an Italian traveler. Okay. Okay.

Writing in the David De Rossi, writing in the 16th century, why we how we know this was a successful because there's a reference was shocked. I must. Thomas was the king of Persia at the time in the 16th century, how is the Ottomans were in a war with the Persians. And only at this time, the Jewish rabbis also introduced about Jewish traders. Were asked to give loans to Princess Ottoman princess to find a war. Persian Empire was in the southern Woods several weeks. Okay. Now we move on to some contemporary

views. recent scholarship very quickly.

Okay.

Karen Armstrong, notes in our history of Jerusalem that the Jews hailed the early Islamic conquest of the Byzantine lands as a mercy from God.

Karen Armstrong writes, toward the end of the seventh century, a Hebrew poem hailed the Arabs as the precursors of the Messiah, and look forward to the end gathering of the Jewish exiles and the restoration of the temple. Even when the Messiah failed to arrive, Jews continue to look favorably on Islamic rule in Jerusalem. In a letter written in the 11th century, the Jerusalem rabbis recalled the mercy God had shown his people when he allowed the kingdom of Ishmael the kingdom of smile, to conquer Palestine, what she talking about what year 11th century a Jewish rabbi wrote a letter, okay, she's quoting a letter. They were glad to remember that when the Muslims arrived in Jerusalem,

they were people from the children of Israel with them. They showed them the sport of the temple and they settle them, settled with them until this very day. So she's referring to when Omar came in. The sport of the temple was buried under rubble. Oh, Christian. Yeah, yeah. So since the Jews came with the Muslims, in other words, so that remember the Jewish people were not allowed to live in Jerusalem, from the Roman 11th century them because this is a Jewish rabbi. She's quoting a Jewish rabbi speaking about his speaking, she's constantly exact Maxim, yah, yah, yah.

Yah. In about 750, the Jewish author of the mysteries of Rabbi Simeon Ben Yohai, saw the building of the Dome of the Rock as a prelude to the Messianic age. He praises the Muslim Caliph, as a lover of Israel, who had restored the beaches of Zion and the breaches of the what was the name of the day, she mentioned the name of the

the rabbi. Now she doesn't mention Okay, she was she simply writes that they were they were glad to remember that when the Muslims arrived in Jerusalem, there were people from the children of Israel, okay, okay. Okay. So she says the Jerusalem rabbi is recalled the mercy. Okay, she doesn't match. So this is taken on the history of Jerusalem, Karen Armstrong's history of Jerusalem, the references will be in the comment section.

And this is what I referred to earlier. This is exactly what the quote is. These are her exact words Karen Armstrong, the Muslims had established a system that enabled Jews, Christians and Muslims to live in Jerusalem together for the first time. These are the words of Karen Armstrong, paying a tribute to the Muslim world

system. Professor Dean Philip Bell, who is Dean and professor of Jewish history at Spertus Institute of Jewish Studies in Chicago, writes the following. Jews under medieval Islam never suffered from the same general negative perception as in the Christian West, despite regional variations, and high medieval political instability in medieval Islam, multicultural environments combined with active engagement in sciences and literature lead to something of an Islamic Golden Age for the Jews, at least according to most historical accounts. It has been primarily in the context of recent political developments, that the ones assumed positive views of Jewish life under medieval Islam

have been seriously questioned. So anachronism has been put in place. Absolutely. What Professor Dean Phillip Bell is

saying here is that this perception, or the perception that the Jews lived in prosperity and security throughout the Muslim territory during the Muslim period, or what they call the golden age of the Jewish people under Islam, this notion has only been questioned by recent political developments. What is he talking about? He's talking about the state of Israel. Yes, it was only after the creation of the State of Israel, when the Zionist project took this land, and drove out the Palestinians now to claim superiority.

over this land, and over the civilization of the Palestinians, they had to make the Muslim civilization look bad. The narrative had narrative. That exactly if the narrative goes as follows that the Jews lived in prosperity and security, the Muslim civilization protected the Jewish people for over 1000 years. Why then do you need a Zionist state of Israel? Why can you not live with the Muslim side?

Exactly. So they tried changing the narrative. They tried changing the image. They tried changing the perception that the judiciary will ever live with Islam. Yeah, in prosperity and security. This is what Dean Phillip Bell is talking about the recent political developments

have challenged once assumed positive views of Jewish life under medieval Islam, a cloud This is very important, by the way. And this I mean, what we are seeing today here has been noticed or noted by major academics in the field. Dean, Phil Abell, is the is a dean and professor of Jewish history at at Spertus Institute of Jewish Studies in Chicago.

And others, quote I want to very quickly share with you I have mentioned him already Zions ohana, who is also a contemporary American Jewish historian. He confirms the Jewish appreciate appreciation of the Muslim arrival in Spain.

Zion zohore writes, amazingly, thus when the Muslims crossed the Straits of Gibraltar from North Africa and 711 Sea and invaded the Iberian Peninsula, Jews welcomed them as liberators from Christian persecution. Yeah. Then he goes on to right. Yeah, born during this era of Islamic rule, the famous Golden Age or Spanish Jewry, circa 900 to 1200 produced such luminaries as statesman and diplomat, has the image uproot was either an army commander, small, or nugget. Avoid the ones that the one we mentioned. Point philosophers, Solomon, Ben Gabriel, and Judah Halevi. And at the apex of them all, Moses been my moon, also known among the Spaniards as my monitors. So signs are is pretty

much confirming the golden age of the house of Israel under the rule of Islam. Yes, basically. So he's not only saying that the Jews welcome the Muslims as liberators, and 711 see when they came to Spain, but the Muslims actually gave them a golden age in return. And the Jewish people, so long as the Muslims ruled Spain, lived with the Muslims. They chose to live with the Muslims, after it's after the last stronghold of the Muslims fell to the Catholics in 1492. What happened to the Jewish people? All of them were completely decimated. Yeah. The Jewish people were in smaller number. So the Catholic Monarchs Ferdinand and Isabella, okay, gave the Jewish people two choices. You convert

or you die. You convert or die. Many Jewish people were killed because of the Inquisition. Because this is before the Inquisition as soon as they took the city of Granada. And of course, many of the Jewish people had to face Inquisition.

because some of them pretended to convert, just like the Muslims did. So, the Jewish people became the conversas. Okay, and the Muslims became the Moriscos. So my 1492 1492 onwards, okay, the most difficult and brutal period in the lives of Spanish Jews as well as Muslims.

Then we move on

to the after that, would you? Is it correct to say that okay, well, they then move to the Ottoman Empire. Yeah, many did. Absolutely. This is a very good point. Yeah. Timely mentioned of the Jewish removal to the Ottoman territories, those Jewish, those Jews, very few of them who could escape, where did they escape to, to Ottoman territories, they came to places like Salonika. They came to places like Constantinople, they came to places like Jerusalem. Now the question is those Jewish people who were living in Jerusalem during the Ottoman period, what happened to them? The Ottomans took the territory of Syria, Palestine, and Hijaz from the Mamelukes in 1516. So Taslim, conquered

these territories. And having conquered these territories, he claimed to be the first Ottoman Caleb,

what happened after that? We have a Jewish historian who studied in two volumes, the Jewish life as reflected in Muslim court documents from the sigil of Jerusalem. Okay, the 16th century, is this the ultimate soldier? This is the Ottoman sigil. Just just to explain what the sigil is, and to the people, because recently, I use the sigil myself a few times this is just one that's written in ultimate Turkish right? Yes. Yeah. So they've actually digitized this sigil. Yes. And it's now part of you can go online, and there's a there's a whole website, that the Turkish Government and I think it was absolutely amazing. Yeah, and even even even this Jewish historian from Israel. His name is

Amnon Cohen, who has studied these, these particular records. He has published the facsimiles in these two volumes. So you can see the facsimiles there as well. Right. So what is this? This is basically a study of the Jewish sorry, a Jewish study of the Muslim court records from the city of Jerusalem, which Jewish people? Yeah, we are just relating to the Jewish Ah, okay. So this century, okay. Let me very quickly explain. This is a study of the Muslim court records. Yes. From the city of Jerusalem. Jerusalem. Okay. Yeah. And

the records he studies are for 70 years. Yeah. From 1500 to 1570. Okay. 100 to 1570. This is the record, he studies. So he studies the record of the Muslim court record, who is who's in China, why is it? Sorry, who was who was the historian? No, the skeleton of this is basically the early Mameluke period. And then during the reign of Sultan Suleiman the Magnificent, okay, so John Solomon came to power in 1520. And he ruled until 1566. So pretty much done that from memory, right? Yeah.

Yeah, this is why this is why No, no, go ahead. So this is pretty much the entire reign of Sultan Salamander. Magnificent, yes. One of the most powerful Ottomans of Thomas he's the one is Vienna, and also you've got the beautiful mosque. Yeah. Soleimani and he's the one who seized Vienna. This is all powerful. Yeah. In 1533. In the city of Vienna, it pretty much nearly took Europe. Okay. So the siege of Vienna. Yeah, the siege of the famous siege of Vienna. Okay, that sent shivers down the European

spine, actually. European spine, even even even Martin Luther wrote about it. Protesters. Yeah, it was it was around the same time. Exactly. He's next door. 17. Right. Yeah, yeah, that's exactly what he was a contemporary. And he's next door. Yeah, he's in Germany. Right, right. Yeah, this was a siege of Austria. Okay. Go about that. Yeah, he mentions it. So now.

Amnon Cohen is a contemporary Israeli Jewish scholar. He studied the Muslim court record for the cemetery interest and his interest was simply in the Jewish cases. Really? Yeah. He was specifically studying the Jewish cases. Yes. He was checking if the Jewish people were were applying. Uh huh. For Justice, and justice at the Muslim court. One more point about the Sijil. Right. Yeah. And the Arabic was probably the same as the Turkish one. So it literally means the record effectively the Sijil.

And one more thing about it, the Ottoman Empire probably has, and you can correct me if I'm wrong, but it probably has the most preserved court records probably in all the time. Absolutely. Absolutely. This is why he was able to study it. Okay. And the book is titled A World

within a world within Jewish life as reflected in Muslim court documents from the sigil of Jerusalem 16th century, so, you know, what did he find? What did he find? Well, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's study his findings. He writes,

cases concerning Jews cover a very wide spectrum of topics. Okay? If we bear in mind that the Jews of Jerusalem had their own separate courts, the number of cases brought to Muslim court, which actually meant putting themselves at the mercy of a judge outside though, hey, they had their own separate courts. Yeah, they had their own separate call courts called Beth dens rabbinical courts were available. Can I make a point about that? Just just that, that level of autonomy, and if you want to call it that, and it's not a loaded term, but pluralism, right, that was afforded legal? Yeah, pluralism, I mean, for Jewish people, is unlike even what we were granted here in the West

100% There is no precedent.

Sorry, there is no example of yeah, there is no example of it today, even in the most secular li Islamic Sharia courts are not affected, the ineffectual 100% They don't have legal powers secular states as liberal as they may be like Sweden, Norway, Denmark, even they don't allow judicial judicial, autonomy's to minorities. Yeah, the Islamic system allowed judicial autonomy to the Christians as well as the Jews. And that's because of the prophetic commands. And that's because of the actions of the WHY WOULD Muslims forced their religion and law upon the Jewish people. They have their own law, let them rule by their own law. So they were Beth dense and Jerusalem. Well, they

could bet dens that's the b th, dense di ns. Okay. So, we continue with Amnon Cohen's quote. Yeah. So he's saying that the Jewish people were applying to the Muslim court, which actually meant putting themselves at the mercy of a judge outside the pale of their communal and religious identity is quite impressive. The Jews went to Muslim court for a variety of reasons. But the overwhelming fact was the ongoing and almost permanent presence there. Okay. This indicates that they were they went there, not only in search of justice, but did so hoping or rather annoying that more often than not, they would attain redress. When wronged. The Jews went to court to resolve much more than their

conflicts with Muslims or Christian neighbors. They turned to Sharia authorities. This is Amnon Cohen, by the way, a Jewish historian from Israel writing this, okay. They turn to Sharia authorities to seek redress with respect to internal differences, and even in matters with their immediate family intimate relations between husband and wife, not for car maintenance, payments to divorces, support of infants, etc, etc. This is the Jewish people in the 16th century, coming to the Muslims, Muslim judges cardies.

Despite the fact that they have their own courts in the city of Jerusalem, where the rabbis are ruling over those courts or determine he goes on to save their possessions are protected about the Jewish people. He's writing a conclusion having discussed the the law, how it dealt with the Jewish cases, the Muslim law, and the fact that the Jewish people are found to be permanently present in the Muslim court applying for justice, and over 1000 cases are filed within the 70 years. Over 1000 cases are filed within the 70 years. He goes on, Amnon Cohen goes on to say

their possessions were protected. Although they might have had a pay for them might have, they might have had to pay for extra protection at night for the houses and commercial properties. The title deeds, and other official documents indicating the rights were honored when presented to the court being treated like those of their Muslim neighbors. The picture emerging from the sigil documents is baffling.

On the one hand, we encounter recurring satanic decrees sent to Jerusalem in response to pleas of the Jews to the effect that nothing should be done to stop them from applying their own law regarding a variety of matters. There are also many explicit references to the overriding importance of applying Sharia law to them only if they so choose. On the other hand, if we look closely at some of the inheritance lists, we'll see that the local court allocated to female members of Jewish families have the share given to male members exactly as in Islamic law. This meant ipso facto a significant improvement in the status of Jewish women with respect to law.

legacies over that accorded them by Jewish tradition. Although it actually meant the application of Islamic law in an internal Jewish context. He the Muslim judge defended Jewish causes jeopardized by high handed behavior of local governance. He enabled Jewish businesses. Business people here enabled Jewish business people and craftsmen to lease properties from Muslim endowments on an equal footing with Muslim builders. More generally, he respected the rituals and places of worship and guarded them against encroachment, even when the perpetual perpetuators were other Muslim dignitaries.

So, the conclusion is from Amnon Cohen, having presented all this evidence and these findings, after he studied the sigil record of the city of Jerusalem, in the 16th century, the Ottoman surgery sigil record, his conclusion is, no one interfered with their internal organization or the external cultural and economic activities. Talking about the Jewish people. In a world where civil and political equality or positive social change affecting the group or even the individual were not the norms, the sultanzoy Jewish subjects had no reason to mourn the status of begrudge their conditions of life. The Jews of Ottoman Jerusalem enjoyed religious and administrative autonomy within an

Islamic state. And as a constructive dynamic element of the local economy and society, the code actually did contribute to its functioning. Therefore, the Jewish people of the city of Jerusalem during the Ottoman period are very powerful, very prosperous, very free to apply their own law to themselves, or if they so chose the Sharia law in the affairs. All of this evidence by the Muhammad hijab is presented to our audiences, and the Jewish audiences and Christian audiences out there. What does it prove? It proves that throughout the Muslim period, throughout the history of the Muslim civilization for over 1000 years, the Jewish people prospered, lived in harmony, and

flourished. And were honored, according to the testimonies of the Jewish historians, travelers rabbis themselves. Today, the evidence I presented by Mohammed hijab, in this presentation on this in this podcast, none of the evidence I presented is for Muslims. Not one piece of evidence came from the Muslims, all the testimonies, all the studies, all the academic opinions we presented here today in this podcast, are from the Jewish authorities, and for them for someone, then to make a claim of a claim of conspiracy. would be absurd, wouldn't it? So you've got all these different accounts from different historical periods, different geographies, different places, in Spain, in

Greece, in Iraq, in the Ottoman Empire, they can't all be saying the same thing. And lying or conspiring with it wouldn't be a global conspiracy going on for 1000 years. Yes, because these testimonies, you know, they are from, as you said, different places, different times different people facing different circumstances, different situations, different dynasties. But there is one thing common in all of these testimonies, prosperity of the Jewish people, they honor their protection to security. That's correct. Okay, read that out. Exactly. So, so no one no one can, in his right mind, deny this evidence is like denying the sun. So when design has come out today, just

like they haven't been there have been denying that they are committing a genocide against Palestinian children. Nothing they say can be taken seriously because they are a bunch of liars. So when they say that the Jewish people are threatened by Muslims, or by Palestinians, they are a bunch of liars. Muslims are never never anti Jewish. If Muslim civilization, or the Muslim dynasties or the Muslim armies wanted the Jewish people dead, there would be no Jew alive today in the world. Absolutely. There would be no Jewish community alive in the world, because they were being persecuted and killed in Western Europe and Northern Europe. And they found refuge with the Muslims

and Muslims took them in as cousins as they own and gave them reasons to be happy reasons to flourish. So this propaganda after this podcast can be put to rest forever. Any Zionist who opens his mouth ever again. Yes, about Muslims being anti Jewish Muslims being anti semitic Muslims after Jewish blood Muslims wanting a massacre or a genocide of the Jewish Jewish people just send this link to them. The video them? Absolutely. I think you've completely annihilated the claims. And I think in order for someone to to actually make a case

Against you they will be having to. It's not just hermeneutical. Gymnastics, they're going to have to be a historical. Absolutely, they will have to speak. Look, if I had quoted the primary sources and put my own spin on them, it would be a different matter. I quoted the primary source and the secondary and the secondary sources of modern scholars, Jewish modern scholars, none of them are Muslim. None of them are Muslims or they're Jewish. Are they saying the same thing? I'm saying? Yes. Why are they saying the Jewish people flourished throughout the Muslim history? They're the the witness, they experienced the Golden Age, whereby they produced some of the best intellectuals in

the history. The best rabbis, the best poets, the best scientists, the best intellectual, the best physicians, the best everything the best fuzzies and generals are born throughout the Muslim period in Muslim territories. Beautiful thing that's fantastic. I think this is really good information people from the non Muslim community outside of Islam. Now they can really look at Islam properly. And look at the history of Islam properly. Absolutely. And with that, we will conclude thank you so much for coming. Thank you so much for this opportunity. And we will put the all of the references that you mentioned in the in the comment section and pinned comment and also in the description box.

Exactly my fellow Santa Monica,

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