Moving Beyond Rituals
Channel: Khalid Yasin
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Allah says, In the
revision of the profits
evolve for humanity's
And you prevent
the social evil from the
Institute the faith connection to Wi
awkward to say that
you are respected
administration, student body of respected scholars and students of knowledge have been assembled here to come from local businesses
and especially to the ISOC. Who made this possible.
All of you, for the non Muslims, we ask that our words penetrate your heart and change hats.
some misconceptions and distortions that you may have regarding Islam, and its special set of values,
I think would be appropriate here for me to carry the theme
of our chef just spoke to us to carry the theme forward by stating
Allah subhanho wa Taala mentioned to us in
a well known verse,
and I'll say it in Arabic, translated English. So I don't assume that means that first is
This is a very well known
verse, when it comes to the issues of ethics and morality.
Sometimes I think that However, even the translation is misunderstood.
So the translation
that I want to give to it the most popular translation of direct
Alice, Alice says, in
the nation of the prophets, a lot of
you are the best
group of people or civilization,
evolve for humanity.
Because you command
the common good,
and you prevent
the social evil.
And you Institute the faith connection.
And this is very important, that referred some
installations on the matter, because I believe that, as a person striving to personify the issue of ethics and morality, we have to understand what that means.
In a society that we live in. We have laws.
Of course, it's good for citizens to obey those laws.
But there's also a criminal justice system
that is set up
To punish the people who violate those laws,
and to imprison those people who commit crimes,
and to reward people and to protect people from those criminals.
So this is that effect.
And this whole idea of Islamic moral ethics, not just rhetorical,
I was, also give us another verse,
so certainly those who purify the soul, really successful people,
and certainly those that the soul or religion.
Now, this whole idea of success and humiliation is not just the issue of in the Hereafter, it will certainly
it certainly will be completed, their success and humiliation will be completed.
It begins while we can see an experience. So Islam has a very real approach to the issue of good and evil. It has a very real approach to preventing for command
and preventing what is evil.
In order to do that,
to command what is good, and prevent what is evil.
It requires a system
of people trade well, or a group of people, right? Well,
people who mean well, are just a pious people, though it is a system set up by us people, good people, resolve people who oppose those who do the opposite.
That is powerful resources for the good should power resources for the evil and
the evil people.
And then dominate Earth
dominated earth today.
And what our distinguished ship, he said regarding Prince Charles, that was very good.
He continues to feel that way when he becomes the king.
They say that is the same that
power corrupts. And absolute power absolutely corrupts
before I begin, what I really like to say,
the shift was somebody was asking questions about
this will be a question about the law of morality. morality is sort of like something abstract.
You know, it's like almost being wet or almost being pregnant.
No, morality is like gravity.
morality is like time, morality is like death. morality is like food. morality is like, morality is like,
morality is like life itself, which human beings have no control of, but they are the beneficiaries of therefore, when it comes to the issue of morality, we are bound to respond in supporting ourselves to the benefactor of all these things, and the legal legislation, law and decree and determination of the benefactor. That's the issue of morality. It's not abstract. It's just a matter of sitting down and drinking some tea and coffee and trying to determine what we should do next.
Now, my call
for a nice PowerPoint presentation.
I will be brought in
match will be
sort of the way I grew up in
Normally, that's not my fault.
But I do pray against.
So my talk will sort of be in the way in which
I have learned to address things in my own unique style.
A little less classic than some of the speakers who spoke to us previously. In fact, to be very honest, I was a bit
hesitant, embarrassed to come here and speak in front of or behind
my Steam teachers
ship Java Idris.
Over the years, I've studied with him, and at least three different seminars.
I read his books, his writings, learn to respect him.
And I will say these things because he's here.
That is the truth of the matter.
The first time that I sat in the seminar with him, I was just 26 years old.
I feel quite honored,
modified to speak for myself.
However, regarding the subject, I could not
hesitate when I was asked to address this topic.
And so my talk will be
towards Islamic revival.
Islam is a set of laws.
It is a system.
But those laws have to be adhered to the system has to be used, otherwise, the people who call themselves Muslims will get no benefit.
So in the same way in which a physician would deal with a patient, you would examine and didn't do a diagnosis or treatment. That's how I want to proceed.
I hope I won't exceed my time. But I just like to remind the timekeeper that
you forced me to stop.
I recited these two verses, as a preface to the issue of the responsibility of Muslims in the past, and the responsibility of Muslims today, it has never changed.
Our responsibility is the same.
And as long as Muslims clung to their religion, their system of life, as long as they observed the mandates of the code, as long as they can follow, the magazine of the Prophet is less than b upon they prospered.
They created a high civilization, they set
a precedent for the world.
But it's not enough for us to keep talking about the stature of the past. No, we need to dig up the diamonds.
Let the goal of Islam shine.
Bring these tools back to civilization. And then I believe that the Islamic paradigm
that was introduced to the world and then ruled the world for close to 700 years, that we have a chance to reintroduce that paradigm to the world today. Not for the sake of ruling but just for the sake sake of
making a profound presentation, giving the world a new
But as the Muslims departed
from the Quran, when they departed from following the legacy of the prophets, when they stopped enjoying or commanding the right when they stop preventing the evil and the corruption, they degenerated
into the erosion of the standards.
And they scattered into psychological, they scattered their psychological energy.
They wanted him to purposelessness, on the web is stagnation, conditioning and sleep, habits of action and thought automation mechanism and obtrusive introduction of foreign corrupting influences. This is our state today. And let us be very honest, before we talk about the statue of Islam and the beauty of the Quran, and the legacy of the prophet SAW. So let's talk about our condition today.
And we should not be given that disguise ourselves for non Muslims and try to make it seem like or at least we should be honest and say Islam is the system. It is perfect. It is a reference that anyone can make, it will never fail.
But we Muslims, we are something different. We are the people who claim to embrace Islam, we are the people that claim to follow this legislation. We are the people who are attached to this faith by a professional. But today, the Muslim world is sick, divided and socially dysfunctional. I said they are sick, divided and socially dysfunctional.
Not to be honest, because this is my family. I was born Christian,
Christian family. They're still my family, but my ideology.
And I'm still struggling with them and they still struggling with me.
firming the reality of Islam came into my life. Not that I was searching for that it found me
with that reality shining into my life is so bright, and so clean.
That I accepted it. And I've been struggling to be Muslim, and meeting those standards to the best of my ability since 1965.
However, as I traveled through the Muslim world, visit my family.
It is actually about 53 countries that I've visited so far
26 of them are Muslim countries, that is countries with major Muslim populations.
I have to be honest with you that in my early travels to the Muslim world with traumatic for me,
I came back to America very confused, still glad to be a Muslim, but confused about the family that I just don't
to be the Word of God understanding the prophecy to be the final legacy, but not understanding what had happened
to the family.
And let me say a few things that you can try to understand and this is all part of my experience. Although
Muslims produce 67% of all the petrol used in the world,
let me put this into context.
comes from Muslim countries.
Keep that in mind 178 billion a month,
Societies collectively are economically and technologically stagnant and subordinate. How could that be?
There's an explanation
for scholars and students of religious knowledge remain polarized into various ideological sex.
secular leaders of the Muslims, along with the secular leaders of the non Muslims, collectively conspire, and bracket and exploit the ignorant masses.
is not mine,
as a historical, contemporary indictment, but we don't have any courts to bring these people to justice.
The so called Islamic universities.
While they are producing students and scholars,
teaching mechanistic doctrines and dogmatic adherence to rituals, one of the most progressive universities of the world that we would call an Islamic science, logic, reason and ethics are top.
And that's what has happened to the Muslims
in the so called Islamic universities,
science, logic, reason and ethics.
And then Islamic universities.
mechanistic doctrine and dogmatic adherence to rituals are taught.
as a direct result of this,
the animal rights in the Western world are more sophisticated and guarantee the human rights in the Muslim world.
given some talks in the Western world,
free to comment on what I consider to be the lakhs of my government,
from the likes of our governments in the exploitation in their perversion, and
intrusion, and other kinds of things that they commonly do in the name of what they call justice or justice.
I've also in my lectures, I've talked about my experience in the Muslim world.
And I've been equally critical about Muslim governments, because that's my family.
about them, however, I cannot be truthful about them.
They won't even allow me to come down once they have heard what I got to say.
But if I was a citizen of one of the 26 Muslim countries, and I spoke like this,
about them on deliverance, something similar to what I have done, so as a student of political science, or student of history,
I will be locked up within a half an hour, and you will be locked up with me.
So I want to be honest, first of all, that if we're going to treat the situation, we have a bad
situation, then we can treat it. But
if we hide from denial, we're never going to treat it.
So I'm not bearing the falls of Muslims in front of non Muslims, because somebody will say that
non Muslims, I would say, Are You foolish to think Muslims?
They can read, they can see, you know,
they go visit Egypt, every year, over 15 or 16 million tourists go to Egypt every year. Do you think that when they come back they're impressed with this law?
No, they come back with trinkets?
but they don't come back and say how impressed they are with the Islamic ethics that they saw an aha.
No. That's how far we have slipped into the cracks of civilization. That people come to a place
they go to
The beautiful marketplace.
And they go down there, they walk down the streets of
gadgets and water, they go back to the knock on the Hilton, you see it
with some exceptions to
think when it comes back after a visit all the different places
places that they come back and say how impressed they are? No, on the contrary,
they come back and say how pitiful the peasants, but how hospitable they are. They serve this tea and homeless.
Hold on to our wallets
is the most prestigious university in the Muslim world until today.
Let's make it clear.
Saudi Arabia does have some beautiful buildings, and so prestigious universities. But those buildings and universities only came about about 50 years ago,
around the time that was discovered by
you was discovered 20 years by shell, and Exxon company
20 years, then they discovered
that they were able to draw the best towers from from Indonesia, from Africa, from Pakistan from everywhere, and bring them to Saudi Arabia, and then to start building an infrastructure which we see today the phenomenon of the Islamic universities in Saudi Arabia.
And I tried to study there for around the last year beyond
the Halloween beautiful
I'm a bit confused even till today.
But I say this because I want you to understand that as a result of this sociological psychosis, the term Islamic, whether it applies to universities, whether it applies to messages, organizations, or whatever the whole idea of Islam in the world today has become synonymous with back with this repulsiveness, extremism, fanaticism, this organization being unhealthy, and pop the historical nostalgia of the Third World. Now, if we don't want to accept that that is what Western people generally consider about Islam, then I want to remind you, you may feel that I've been overly critical and excessive in my descriptions.
I'm not an intellectual.
And now I'm able to creep into some intellectual advice.
Listen to them. And when I use some Harvard, Oxford, English, and they accept me to be there.
These are exactly what I hear from the most influential intellectual and progressive people in the real world. These terms, when they talk about the slump,
trade and you introduce yourself as a Muslim at all that's interesting.
you start to learn things they say, with educated people don't agree with you.
Or they believe that what you say
they don't argue with you. They just say well, that's interesting.
And you know, you think in your mind, interesting.
You see, the domination and even the prostitution by other peoples and nations, and even by tyrants of their own,
and the fights and the killings and murder through their own sex
and the suffering caused by all this
you see when people go away from something that God gave them, when God gives people a treasure
or responsibility, he makes them accountable for this. And he says to you, other people
are giving you the best, the best legislation, the best legacy, the best products and services, even giving the best, and now you have corrupted it. So now taste the divine punishment of that. So when bush and Blair and whoever else will come after, when they do what they do,
suffer, because God is just
You see, when,
when the thief,
the thief, the thief, he's the first thing.
The first thing people get punished,
they will die and humiliation and
they will die will be known as waffles.
No doubt about it.
Now, the situation regarding the Muslims
did not come about overnight, our condition. I mean, it did not come about overnight, all of a sudden, are in this century, this process of gradual erosion and civilizational compromise. It began over 500 years ago, and was thoroughly accomplished in 1948, by the undermining and the tragic elimination of the left.
Now, when we talk about the undermining and the tragic elimination of the left, let's keep something in mind. As a student of history.
There were nine Muslim countries, major Western countries who collaborated in the undermining and the elimination of
the central government of the Muslims, the central government of the Muslims that was able to manage, let's say, control and govern more than 28 countries around the world.
At the same time, central government, non Muslim governments that time
they conspired to undermine or to eliminate
for their own benefits, because they were promised some things called sovereignty.
And 38 Muslim countries signed on the United Nations Charter, that they would not support
ever coming back. Think about that.
And that's why you hear this talk among Muslims this issue 11. Now, I'm not going to be one to be talking about it because it's not rhetorical. If you don't have power, don't be talking like that. You don't have power, don't talk like you got power,
power, it can be demonstrated, we don't have that power anymore. I'm talking about the gradual going back towards a position of empowerment.
the present and protracted situation has caused Muslims of the world to react in three distinct ways. That is the condition that we have today. Now, some of you here are probably students of psychology, psychiatry, and other kinds of mental disciplines.
And so you may or may not agree as to the what has happened because of this psychosis. But from my observation, this what I think has happened. The present perfect condition has caused Muslims of the world to react in three distinct ways one
to abandon religion altogether.
Many Muslims, we see the 1.6 billion Muslims in the world today. that's a that's a figure that seems like a guesstimate. I can think about 2 billion
that we don't have a way of really knowing how many because I don't know who did a census in Egypt.
The Census in Nigeria,
in those places out in the desert up in London,
1.6 million is a good number.
see, apathy is a part of this belief.
When Muslims are apathetic,
also, when a Muslim has been crushed in spirit,
and then become depressed, lost feeling, this is also very close to disbelief.
So I would say that today, maybe a third of the Muslims, even if they prey on the E.
So the fact that Muslims are really making hot or praying on the eve of the Friday prayer, that doesn't mean that they are inspired by their faith. I'd say that one third of Muslims, they're not inspired at all. They're just going through rituals.
This leads to the abandonment of their religion describing because abandonment doesn't mean to say, I'm not a Muslim anymore. It means to abandon the practical application of religion and to abandon that.
So it will become prevailing
who are living?
It is He Oh my God,
said his messenger, Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa sallam with the guidance for humanity.
The system of truth, the youth, the hero,
in order, guidance, and that that system of truth, it may become prevalent
over any other kind of system.
the unbelievable the skeptics
are the hypocrites among the Muslims,
among the pagans of the victims, they would hate it and conspire against the statement.
So the abandonment of religion is when a Muslim no longer feels that this land can come back and become the center of the world or the center of their life.
The second is that Muslims begin to divide life into two separate compartments, because they are living in the West, benefiting from the west, and the West has told them, Look, look.
We respect your religion.
And it's a good way
to be away from the publications
in the church is fine. But don't bring it out into the public venue, don't talk in your religion and
doesn't belong there. We got another set of rules.
That's called secularism.
Once Muslims have accepted the concept of secularism, then they have said that God only has the right to influence our lives when we pray, or when we fast on certain areas are dealing with marriage or divorce. But in other areas, I'm British, I'm American. I want to practice the religion. And you can tell me about the Sharia
the idea of Sharia
is not real Sharia. It is.
Meaning that the attempt of offering Muslims the way to resolve their marital issues, their personal privacy issues, dealing with contracts and worship and things of that nature. That experience has already it's already been done in Canada, America and Britain. They already attempted to do that. The people who undermined it
movies and movies in Scotland,
to be telling him what to do about their life. So Muslims have divided themselves into separate compartments secular and religious. And the third group, which is the group I try to staple
is the people who are trying to rediscover Islam,
the new Muslims,
and the newly practicing Muslims, and the Muslims who still feel
those who want to rediscover the dynamism of Islam.
The universal application of Islam, the beauty of Islam, the power of Islam, the depth of Islam, the richness of Islam,
legislation of Islam, they want to see Islam as they have tasted, and
when they read the Quran,
and the Sunnah of the Prophet
those three generations and what they did, they want to be looked at
those the three compartments. Now, there shouldn't be any conflict between our rituals and our social political reality. But there most certainly is.
Our scholars and our students have numbers, the majority of them, unfortunately,
the scholarship for the time and the investment that they have made wherever they are.
Students have novels who have sat
in jazz jaza permission, or whatever they have gotten to further than the legacy of those gods. However, most of our scholars and our students of knowledge, as I have seen it, they're not providing a very clear and dynamic integration of the two
principles, one, secular and religious.
And there has to be an integration. This has to offer.
This, Nadine, you see of the middle, that is bringing the religious and the secular interests, the balance, bringing the balance all together, integrating it together, and placing it under the auspices of the
When that happens to the world, I want to say to you, skeptics, people, think about Islam purely from logical pragmatic point of view, I want you to go back if you can, from a historical perspective, I want to go back to the ninth century.
And I want to find a country
that moves went to with the soul and forced them to become Muslims. And as a result of that goes, we became Muslims.
On the other hand, you find
country after country, society as a society.
The power and
the power and the benefit of accepting
one of the two choices, that is to become Muslim, either by service or
not doing so. But being safe and being prosperous and playing the GTA.
They chose one of those two, and it wasn't because war
only took place, when there was a block me from the doubt
when the message
was blocked, when the message was not able to reach some people, because
then a lot of the Muslims bring that wall down so that the doubt would move and flow.
Not because we just want to kill people and take the properties and occupy the events.
Now that integration, of secular and religious or secular and divine
The paradigm of this world, which is already historically documented, and I will tell you that you should admit, skeptics should admit that the so called
Age of Enlightenment,
you know, which is the, the genesis of Western civilization at the age of enlightenment is called the Renaissance. That was the genesis of Western civilization, when it came to some sense of balance and development is called the Renaissance. Well, when that might come from that light, think that rectly or indirectly from the court, and the legislation and the legacy of the anti Islamic civilization, that's where it came from. Now, that's of no benefit to us today. So I'm not trying to kill off the past.
I'm not trying to exploit them, people are the use of history to impress you. I'm only stating a fact. Because when I learned history, and the history class, my history teacher was always telling me about these personalities of the past who contributed so much of civilization. So I want to do the same thing for you.
our methods and Islamic organizations have provided no prints of integration and collaboration with the general community where they are located.
They are not doing any prints of collaboration with the municipalities, they have not built any bridge of integration with the societies where they live and work. We have virtually Muslims, no institutions providing goods or services. And in the Western world, in the real world, we live in countries that measured by something called GNP,
gross national products,
and think about this statistic.
And United Nations, there are 168 registered countries, maybe now 73.
People live in the nations
160. And did you know that only 38 nations among the 168 nations have a gross national product above 138 billion GNP. And you know that there are no Muslim countries that have that.
Yet, they're controlling 67% of the
So goods and services
wherever I go, your message, your organization, where you went to school, your country where you come from, whatever, what is the GNP, what are you producing the goods, one of the products that we're offering today to improve the quality of life.
And what we're offering today to deal with
the erosion of morals, because the Western world as fast as headed technologically and scientifically is headed towards the abyss of immorality. And we who live in the West, more people, the Moral Majority who basically are decent people if we don't stop this
sliding into the abyss of immorality, if we are the top of the of society, the Moral Majority that will stop the people in the bottom of the boat from the Department
of the society.
And I say
that the manufacturing and distribution of drugs and is illegal drugs was facilitated by this country. And think about this 76 tons of cat comes into this country here everyone
that this country allows to come in because
we're very hyper active people and Somalis were very hyper active people they to
can go to a cafe, okay? You or we
have glass or whatever
you have to them right on the side.
They'll be going around the corner in the background isn't we're not stealing drugs. I say that's wrong. The manufacturing of drugs and distribution of drugs, the manufacturer of alcohol, the manufacturing, of setting up of casinos now people again, for the case of adultery, robbing and stealing these, these are crimes and also compound interest that the banks take from us.
Muslims, we're not
we only talk about religion, we only build messages. We only send our children to madrassas, and we only react immaturely, and sporadically to information, the information war against Islam. That's all we do. The question is now, what can we do about this? Where do we begin? How can we
address and rectify this entrenchment in this nation? Well, my answer is, we need to start the process of Islamic divide.
I believe now
that I'm talking about something like what the Taliban did have some of the land because they are not paradigm for us. They're not examples for us to discuss the
telephone, I want to bring some enlightened
kinds of people into play when I'm talking about Islamic revival, because they're not
the only Muslims that we can accept some of what they do and reject some of what they do that human beings, we can do that.
We can also make a judgment on them if they're wrong. But they have nothing to do with this issue of Islamic revival.
This process, it has nothing to this process. It is not based on abstract relevance, it has
a procedure. It has a clear and systematic objective. Yes, it is. 45 minutes after three, and I started at
three slot so I'm about two minutes away.
So Islam has a procedure. Islam has a clear and systematic objective. And Islam has an historical paradigm to guide us.
We have to identify what the problem is, with design a plan of action, and we have to implement it.
We have to understand that Islam has three different levels in which approaching this issue of revival, one spiritual, the other one mental, and physical and mechanical. Now, if the spiritual part doesn't control, the mental part and the mental part will not control the physical part, it goes like that.
It has to be driven that way.
Muslims need to be taught a holistic approach to the religion that
monotheism after that followed the legacy of the prophets last first monotheism after the example of the human example.
purify themselves from all the depths of the impurities and corrupt deviations that have come about as a result of cultural baggage or compromised their own personal moral compromises. They need to become disciplined people, they need to come back to obedience, they need to come back to discipline to do that they need to make Toba individually and collectively,
repentance to Almighty God, after that, they need to begin developing their resources. Because at the end of the day,
Nothing. You need resources cuz you don't have the resources.
We need to learn how to struggle and sacrifice like other people do.
struggle to be and make the sacrifice what you have to if you don't, the only people that move forward
in the race,
in a race, faster
strategies and race, the only people that win the race to the people who sacrifice.
The Muslims have to develop an attitude of competition that is to compete in order to win, not just compete to be in the race. We don't just practice Islam that we want to hit.
And we must stop the development of an institution for revival because revival requires institution. It's not just an idea. I think it should be a central Islamic organization set up with offices all around the world, a central Islamic organization is set up with offices around the world. And the people who represent them. They're not kings or champions, or
presidents or anything like that, now is the independent people who form a think tank, okay, and they represent resources. And resource they represent is a family. So women should be part of that team, because they represent one of the major resources, which is
a central Islamic organization of figures, professionals, business people, skilled people should begin to talk about setting up
the structure for revival of Islam.
As the shed vision, start with yourself, start with your family, start with your neighborhood, start with your society, start with the nation that you live in, and then move out from that center. Now, brothers and sisters, I do understand that we cannot solve all the problems just by speaking for 45 minutes. But what I've tried to do here today
is a regular examination for you of what I consider to be the problems that Muslims have in regards to stagnation. And I coordinate in this way, I said what has happened is that Muslims have put Islam in prison.
You know, we,
we become very angry when we think about Muslims,
Muslims in prison, and in the UK, or Muslims in prison somewhere else? Are we angry about that? For what about?
Who is the president of their culture
to be free to be seen and tasted.
But Muslims will not let this fall out of the prison of their culture.
And we need to move beyond culture.
of skeptics, non Muslims who say, they will be able to really see that they can get an appraisal of it. Right now they see Muslims. And listen, if we have the windows to Islam,
a cracked window, a distorted window, a dirty window, we'll give you a distorted figure.
If that door was a frosted window, and my mother was outside, knocking on the door, as we come in, because she was in danger. And I was saying who is it and she couldn't really talk. But keep knocking knock, keep looking to see a shadow.
Because the window is distorted.
People cannot see Islam because of us like can't see the forest for the trees. Muslims cleaner back represents non property. move beyond the rituals. Don't think to yourself that because you pray five times a day Have you observed the outcomes?
are you beating Colorado you made hot you fast?
Are you are you better yourself you have to be Sunni, Sufi or whatever your needs are, you follow the shape of that shape. You know you've been Muslim, Islamic, your grandfather blah, blah. Don't think that means anything it doesn't. It is what you do today with Islam. how you deal with your neighbor, your colleague, your coworker, and how they see touch, smell, how they react, that's not our business was our job to deliver the message and to deliver it without distortion. In order to do that we have to move beyond the rituals. Brothers and sisters, I want to thank you so very much we asked for money last witness for what we have said. And we asked him to be a witness to our
sincerity towards him in this religion. We pray not to have an agenda towards any Muslims, that is to have any bad feeling or to have any hard feelings towards any Muslims and not to disrespect our elders or our religious scholars, but to use a dynamic approach to address the internal threat of fixation upon rituals and move beyond and towards Islamic revival. Thank you very much.
Before we take questions, I like to just say this topic was moving beyond visuals towards a song.
So don't ask me questions.
If you don't want Muslims,
I think what we should try to do is let the non Muslims first ask questions, you
ask questions, it's gonna be funky or tricky.
Because what we really want to do here, we want to bond with non Muslims in our attempt to bring about some kind of cohesion on the issue of morality. So with
this condition that you were talking about, in terms of the way that the ladies dress,
in the introduction to this conference,
with the display and some of the dates, they were just wearing the veil. Now the ones
that seem to be new to is new to the religion.
And they were from countries that I would associate normally with being, you know,
and invaders that were addressed, not wearing, where
we're from countries that I would associate
with his Manic Panic. So I would see that as a way in
the expression of their religion in terms of rediscovering you know, wanting to
on a spate of discovered or rediscovered Islam. Now, my question really is,
what influenced you feel about
the west or Western living in a western country has on
this condition that you talked about?
Not necessarily on women but intensive? Can you be a Muslim? Can you practice Islam when you're living in a Western open?
Question? You know, I think what I have to do is actually,
okay, I think what I have to do, Patricia, right.
Okay. Okay, Pam,
what I think I need to do preface your question with innuendo.
Gotta press the window.
Okay, first of all, I think that your perception is wrong. It's very limited. I think what you need to do first, before you ask a man, about the issue about the woman wearing the veil, or the covering, and how what
system that seems to suggest, talk to women.
Get in the room, if you can, with three or four women who were available.
And in a room where there's no bed, and they'll take off the bat.
In fact, they'll even take the hit piece that you'll see the real human beings, you'll also find out that many of them are postgraduates, animals, and business people, and verbs and temperature.
The other thing is, you will also find some women,
you'll find out that some of those women who
are the web, they're just like those one sisters who are.
It's just that one sister chooses to follow what she considers to be the commands of Almighty God and the wearing of a specific social uniform. So the wearing of the scarf headpiece, or that it has a specific uniform social uniform for protection in that entity that God gave to the other women are more relaxed about that for a number of different reasons. But what I basically found that experience or period of time is that you can't really determine by virtue of they're not very aware what their real status is, or their
social associations and things that not only go to the actual question that you hit.
Pam, I say that living in the Western world is very
challenging for the practicing for the implementation of Islam as a system of faith because obviously, it's like salmon upstream, you know, going upstream against all odds. But then there's something else, I'd say the best deal.
In my experience, Muslims who have been pushed out from their land from their countries, and somehow they arrived in Britain, they arrived in America, I find out the phenomena, that for the most part, they become
the challenge of moving to practice as long as you're better Muslims.
Not that necessarily. They are not good Muslims in the Muslim lands, but not to say that.
By the same token, I think that dealing with neighbors and colleagues and co workers, understanding of distortions and prejudices and other types of issues, makes it a bit more difficult to practice Islam because people misunderstand and they get these prejudices created by the media, the info wall and all kinds of things at that point in time, we'll work through that. In time, we'll work through that because I don't live in America. People call the Amish, the Amish. They were called the they will call the
Joseph Smith people.
You see the moment for considered by all Christians to be
devious. They will spit,
stone, I mean, all kinds of things. But as
of today, the moment they control a statement, there are only religious groups in America that control the testing state is called Utah.
So perseverance, religious perseverance has its you see has its benefits. And I think that Muslims persevere in this country,
obey the law become prosperous, competitive, things I just spoke about. I think it goes past the moments. There are 9 million Muslims in America.
There's only 1.4 million Muslims in America. When I became a Muslim, there was 76.
New Muslims conference in America today of 9 million Muslims 3.6 million are reverse like myself, the rest of immigrants, as if they persevere. They want to achieve more than a Mormons. So that's my answer that it is a challenge. But the challenge is
I'm also non Muslim. I'm from Germany, and actually I came here to Europe. Yes, German. Yes, I came here to see you for this occasion. And I must say very fascinated and interested in
speech, for obvious reasons. I mean, I guess you know that you're
coming from Germany. So
I must say that I found it very fascinating, but also a very aggressive progressive in the sense that you're telling me as a member of society, that I'm immoral that I'm drilling holes into into the ship. And my question is, actually, do you think
I talk in this way that you can convince me to embrace Islam by sort of accusing me of being immoral of seeking this shouldn't be in the bones?
out of his mouth.
Okay. Okay, good, Alison. First of all, I don't know what type of morality that you are guilty of.
Speaking about the whole society, I spoke about specific things. I said, and I've been clear on that issue. I said that I believe that it is a crime. And it is immoral for the production and distribution of alcohol and what is done to the world.
That is more the production and distribution of tobacco and what it has done to the world. I think it is immoral, prostitution, and the promotion of what is done to the world and what is done to the world and pedophilia and foreign porn and pornography and what is done to the world. And I went on just to speak about even as a compound interest and how they have exploited all of us and made us in debt. We were born in the mother's womb.
So now those who promote that those who promote abortion, children,
That's my perspective. That's my moral perspective.
I can't believe that way. But I do have a right in this country to say that's my moral perspective. And I believe that the Moral Majority of the world generally agrees, regardless of what religion that they are. So
now, I don't know which one of those you fit in.
We do not force our opinions on anybody. But we do have read, speak aggressively. Because if I saw you
walking across the street, and you were blind, and you were about to fall in a ditch, and I would say to you, hey, Al.
I don't think that you would appreciate that when you knew that. You were blind. And I thought that
that would be impressive, right? But in that case, you would appreciate so
Germans cannot be talking about recipes.
I, your speech was very inspirational. So thanks so much.
You mentioned earlier on the Khalifa. And I know that some major politicians such as Bush, and possibly Blair, was afraid of it. They also said something about a think tank, a global think tank with regional offices
is that idea of a future Khalifa No. No fiasco, or creating, developing the idea of federal government among Muslims,
it should be an aspiration for all of us. Why? Because it has a precedent.
It is not something that we just create an idea that has a precedent
means in Arabic, successor to the Prophet, peace of blessing upon not in his prophecy, and not not in his capacity as a prophet, but his capacity of being the ruler of the legislator, or the arbitrator or the official representative, representative for the Muslims. So whoever steps into that position becomes responsible for the actions of the Muslims, becomes responsible for the resources of the Muslim and also becomes responsible for their mortal interaction with the non Muslims. You know, one of the philosophers said.
He said, when
he says he's afraid, that
is afraid, that if an animal adoption, slips on the streets, because the streets are not paved properly, and stumbles and falls, he said that he feels an apartment, because
that is, that is what the fee level means. Okay, that he's concerned about the money that is spent on the vacation.
He was on his way to get the football one day the Friday prep. And as he got ready to get up on the Friday prayer to go up, somebody stopped and there has to be
you see this, this?
This, this person on Friday in front of everybody.
Kumar understood that he is responsible to answer that somebody thought maybe that he or he took the money from the, from the treasury of the Muslims to buy this, and that person never saw that before. So he realized that person and he told him, yeah, he will lie. I was given this as a gift. And my son, Abdullah, he's the witness. And he
said, My father was given to us the gift, the demand said, Okay, go ahead. See, this is the justice of the other. So I say to you,
that now we want to create a think tank to create
Now we want to put things right
to make it assess
effect type of survey to hold people accountable a fail to plan, a failing to develop a vision. That's what we want to do. For them that vision and that plan those resources that assessment will lead us to see. You see some other things towards that.