Kamal El-Mekki – The Story Of Naby Adam 05

Kamal El-Mekki
AI: Summary © The speakers discuss various topics including the importance of finding one's own mistake, the use of language in apologizing for mistakes, and the use of color in apologizing for mistakes. They also touch on the sharia law and its importance in personal and professional life, including the use of words like "has" and "has left." They also discuss the history of eating from trees and the importance of remembering the story of Adam and Eve. The segment touches on the cultural and political changes that have occurred in the past, including the shift from Islam to secularism and the rise of women in the workforce.
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So last week we discussed the

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command, while we kind of finished up the command, the command to bow down to the salon. We spoke a little bit about the police. And then we went to the discussion of where his agenda, and that was exactly the end of where we left off. So I didn't get a chance for some commentary. I remember Dr. Oz, like you said that the arguments weren't compelling to begin with. Really?

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I heard your arguments before I heard this.

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He even so, okay.

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Sounds good or not? No, they sounded compelling. It sounds good. Right. Sounded academic.

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Anyone else want to comment?

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In the being up or down?

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Is anyone else go through the mean? Firstly was up when he heard the first evidence, then it came down when you read the second evidence then went back up when you heard the rebuttal?

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No, okay. No, it happened to me the first time. Yeah, it sounded very good. And, and but the whole point was really to stress the importance of a winning theory, looking at both sides of the argument. Many times people will just look at one side, or the minute they hear the side that agrees with them, or is convenient, they don't want to the research is over. They don't want to keep researching because then oh, I might the evidence the other side might have stronger evidence. And then the inconvenience Now, if the issue becomes Haram, or whatever it is. so important. And I did mention the story of the young man who just read one book on giving the evidences of what pictures

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are hot up. And based on that he stopped television, he stopped taking pictures being in touch with everything. But he'd never had the car.

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And but I will admit, though, and that's what the reason I never tried to convince him otherwise, is that he became a better person. He spent hours of television hours the shows and basketball and sports lived in front of the tube. And when he stopped, even though it's not to say, that was for the wrong reason, let's say if you disagree with the opinion, he started reading the newspapers and reading books and reading novels and just it was better off.

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today, we

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menu for today, we want to talk about them and how eating from the tree

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how they could possibly eat from the tree after they were told not to eat from it and to not let the shit on them. Then I would say Adam forgot to what did Adam I sometimes forget, we're gonna look at all the arguments of scholars mentioned, we're going to look at what kind of tree was according to Muslim scholars, primarily basing it off of Israel, and where the apple came from. And

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what happened to early Christianity as a result of believing the woman was to blame for other eating from the tree and the version. And that's the agenda for today.

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And then, there's still again, the stuff I keep repeating for next time. We we might cover some of this today.

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If he was not angered with Adam, while I was still sent out an agenda if he was forgiven very quickly, while still was he still sent out an agenda. The other one is a commentary on covering the privates in shame and higher, and then something on the fifth rock. And then we have shipped verses that many people misunderstand to be adamant how our communication and then

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other something about color from the advice along with Moosa. Did he use color as an excuse, we're going to go into detail today. And then we're going to end with just the story the first generation of the children of Adam

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and Charles

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and part of today's discussion is also how did the police make it back into a gentleman on the back and forth his scholars went through? So

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we said

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English was commanded to bow down to Adam out of respect to the medicine to honor him and to out of respect and obedience to a lot of the other and looking at some of the verses circled around verses 16 to 17 Karla habima avoid any the upgrading from zero to kilminster and and who said the language is very disrespectful he sent me a lot because of what you called me to be misguided or what how you caused me to go astray. The Apollo then no home sirata calm stuff, and I will lay in wait for them on salata consulting on your straight path. Who is them, the offspring of animism human human beings. So some of the interesting things about for example, when you look at how you're supposed to

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say Oh,

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landmines of origin when you are resigned or when you begin to recycle, or when you enter the masjid, you seek refuge with Allah.

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And you're mentioning about the future,

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powerful descriptions and powerful attributes of a lot seeking refuge in Him from shavonda Raji, and this is as you're entering the masjid. So jokingly, we say, would it make sense to seek refuge with Allah in this powerful drop as you're entering, let's say haram place, and the guy was a hunter, and

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he will carry ministry upon

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seeking refuge to the law of mentioning powerful attributes of is to protect you from the shape of so once such a daughter enter the masjid and why not status dies, you entering a nightclub or bars would make more sense. And turquoise with us.

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Right? Or before a second look for honesty if I'm going to come and hang up with you.

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Maybe before listening to music, you should say Oh,

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and then play that nonsense that of video whoever it is, is going to say right? So

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and this verse kind of gives you the answer. Or then no.

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I will wait lane wait for them on your straight path. So yeah, you seek refuge with Allah as you enter the masjid because the shapefile is waiting for you there because that's where you go like

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his ladies waiting for you on the street path. So he waits for you where you go, the message is read that's why you secretly before you're saying the Quran, why? Because he wants to make you fall asleep. Right? The minute you've got energy minister reciting Quran, Allah

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or director diverts your attention away from you in recitation, did you stop just to look and see what that sound was and whatever, or who entered just ignore, but or it makes messes up your understanding of the verse. So he'll be laying in wait for you on the straight path, the good that you do. Then the next verse says sumela, Etienne mean benei ad and then I will approach them from vain ad him literally means between their hands, and that means the front when a DM is the front. So from the from in front of them, woman helping him and from behind them when I imagine him and from the right one shot at him and from their left. What else did you do a thorough home shaqiri. And you

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will not find most of them being thankful to you. But he did the scholar say notice he never mentioned the top? Why not?

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What is mentioned the top

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you got? Yeah, because the loves of hot dog is abundant. So he's not gonna come to you from that direction. Allows again, isn't that direction.

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So as an alum, the question is how could advise him disobey Allah. So we already covered the fact that he was very, very intelligent, we refuted the idea that Adam restaurant was just a very simple kind man who just ate things in a gentle walk around eating very, very intelligent, mobile, everything. So he's very intelligent. And he specifically told me about a beliefs and a lot of autolysis were in I'll do one luck or other barely he indeed he is an enemy to you. When is odjick and to your spouse? And it's as if he was shown a blease right? And he this he is it's as if he got an idea of who he was not like there's someone out there who's gonna do who's gonna try to take you

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out of agenda, but he is an enemy to you and your spouse for your region Akuma that so then let him not take you both the Kumar and the two minute genetti fetish car so that you will suffer not punished I a

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good you're not let him take both of you out of agenda. So you will suffer not so you both will suffer.

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Why is that? Why is it singular, the suffering and not plural?

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It's that it's what we're all thinking. But nobody wants to say it because everyone's afraid to not be politically correct. That's the one.

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Yeah. So basically,

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Adam and Howard are an agenda would love to work together to do anything? No, if they are taken out of agenda who will have to do the work?

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Okay, now, the minute you say that, how about the attitude comes, nobody said anything about your career. 15 go and chocolates or whatever you want. Nobody said

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anything about that? I don't know what brought that up. I just did

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nothing. But the minute you say that, what are you saying, you have to go have a career, become a boxer, I don't care what you become. But we're saying, let's look at our scenario. We've got a man and a young man and a woman to get married, and they both graduated. And now they're just newlyweds moved into an apartment. They all they both have their own cars, and they're working on their careers. Every day, they're fighting traffic going, find the traffic coming back, and so on and so forth. And then the woman one day after, like two years, she just she's had it. She said, you know, I've had with this fighting to traffic and all this gossip at the office, I actually don't want to

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work anymore. You work and you pay the bills. Is there anything wrong with this story if she decides he doesn't want to pursue that job. And that's it. So it's up to her don't interfere in her life? It's up there, right? Now, imagine now two hours are worth fighting from traffic. And then one day the husband says, You know what? I'm sick and tired of this. Fighting through traffic, you work?

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The motion?

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That's because she was paid five times as much. So how long?

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So so this is not a commentary on whether women can work or not. And I don't think we're disputing that you will believe it's harder for women to work. And we're not disputing that she can have a career. She doesn't want to have children. She doesn't want to have children. It's her life. And I really don't care about these things. Every time you comment, someone thinks, oh, he wants to prohibit women for this video. It's just a lecture from a part of a lecture and will lie and never said anything about women working in the clip. But someone took it out. And he says women are not allowed to work in a snap.

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And you hear the whole clip. I never mentioned work or anything, but you just end up thinking, yeah, he said, You can't work. And I have another clip was was something historically, and someone put fire around the frame of

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the sheet in the background. And I looked very heavy and I looked at my

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we do have enough money.

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You know, so anyways, nobody's saying anything about that. We're just saying that the man was supposed to be the main breadwinner. And the woman as the scholars put it very nicely was supposed to be Malika. Muto wotja, a queen with her crown in her home. And if she wants to put the crown off, and put boots on and go do construction work, you have to go to construction work. Everyone has to get a headache when someone wants to go get your career. Nobody said anything might have been hard. But if she doesn't want to, he's going to have to provide she can sit at home when she wants to. But he can't sit at home if he wants to. He has to. And that's why the verses Don't let him take both of

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you guys out of agenda. And then you will suffer not you will both suffer. And I know someone's gonna say, but oh, you told me the kitchen isn't suffering and instead of a hospital, it is suffering. But

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it is so hard to talk about things anymore. You have to tiptoe around everything. Everything is everything is racist everything.

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I was referenced this video I have on on YouTube. I'm telling the story about this guy during Hajj. Some African woman pushed him.

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In the commentary, some girl wrote how racist Why does it have to be an African woman?

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It's a true story.

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What on earth was racist about that? But if she was Scandinavian, everyone will be like, I wish she pushed me

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to the single brothers. I can't wait to go.

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But then you hear about you know African woman pushing people look man, be careful when it comes back. start jogging for it.

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Alright, so

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so I will tell you

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guys that they were just like, such big shot and the ones that push these are the guys that pushing in like

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African women who are Nigerian and sit again and taller and bigger on their lights. Keep pushing me buddy go. Yeah.

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I saw that. And I was like, Okay, you go ahead and why don't you do that? Yeah. Yeah, so a warning goes out to all Indonesian men.

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All right. Very good.

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Yeah, they got the change. So after all these warnings, he still manages to take them out of the gym.

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filtered out of verse 22, out of chapter seven, verse 21st was Hello

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mushiya bon Loup de la Huma Maria's mom and so ottima will call Amanda how Kumar Buccola. And how the Sharia law in the antic una americaine otaku una minute how the game does have to cool right there. So in verse 23, out of, we see that the shavon he whispered to them, to basically show them what has been hidden from them from their, from their deed from their deeds or their deeds or their,

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from their privates also. And he said, Your Lord has not prohibited you from this tree, except that if you eat from it, you will become like angels of the corner, or from those who live forever. What is this verse mean?

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Okay, this is this is where it helps to understand the shape, first of all, a lot is what gave him access to you. He knows you since childhood. He knows your personality type. He knows what kind of arguments are appealing to you. And if you hate smoke, for example, and you have asthma, he doesn't try to convince you to smoke, he will convince you to do another thing. He knows you very well. And he will bring you what seems enticing to you. We'll package it in a way that's enticing to you, because he's been given access to your thoughts. He can give you nightmares. He, he runs through your blood, as the President said in a heartbeat just like your veins as the blood that runs through

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your veins. So he's given access to you so he knows exactly what to present you that will be appealing to you. So listen carefully.

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It please knows, and he used the intense love that Adam had for a loss of power. We're all in agreement for sure how much intense love other Isilon had for loss of data. Some reports say that when Adam s&m came down to earth, He remained crying for 40 years for zero just because of the ones that he committed against a lot. So look at how we love Allah subhanaw taala and all that he's given us here on Earth, imagine he allowed you to live in agenda, being good tutor and that level, how much you would love Eliza. So

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a police knew that Adam and his son loved Allah Subhana Allah so much, but he could and he would love to worship Allah as good as the angels remember who he's with and up there. He sees the angels and how they worship Allah, tirelessly. They never sleep, they never rested, they never wander off, they don't have to go and eat or drink or take a break. But Adam and Sam does all that. So he wanted to be able to worship Allah subhanaw taala, like the level of the angels, so that's why he tells them you will be like angels, and that's why in other places

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I'll hold you or not guide you to the tree of everlasting life. What does that mean? If you eat from this tree, you will live forever. Now put yourself in Adam Allison's world in his world who lives forever? The angels, right? So you will be like an angel is what the coded language is saying. So one is using the intense love that other mycelium has for a larger to use it to disobey. Look how crafty and tricky is. Then here's the second part that's really really powerful. And this is inserted are off verse.

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Verse 21. The one right after will call some of Houma

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It says eventually, we'll call it some of whom are in Nila Kuma, lemon And last, but Sonoma County up some. He swore to them by Allah. Put yourself in Adam Allison's world. You live amongst angels. You live in Paradise, all you know, is a lot of angels. Have you ever heard a lie in your life? No, he's never heard a lie. And I mean, he knows what a lie is. But he's never heard of light. And he's in such a righteous company. It's not like there's Earth and offspring and and you know, so never heard a lie. And there's nobody there that would lie. And he never thought that there would be someone who would swear by Allah subhanaw taala. His name uses magnificence and his name. Why lie?

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In our world, it happens all the time. The biggest liars take oath more than anybody else. True or false? Yeah, the biggest liars are the ones who will brag I'm telling you the truth. I don't even know you. Why is why are you taking oath. That means you're lying probably. And we'll let him tell you the truth. But really, I'm starting to doubt it now. Yeah, and that's also important to know Allah subhanaw taala mentions the hypocrites. They will come to the problem and they will take the biggest oath were up some will be

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the Imani him, they will come to you and swear by Allah, the biggest of all,

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the in amongst the whole region. If you command them, they'll go out for a job. So that so I will work on it.

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There's never been an iteration where every worker on the line who came to the processor limb and said Yasuda law will law that the law

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if you command us to go out for a jog, you will find me in the front. He never did that work. Why? Because he's dreadful. Ahmad never came and swore he also liked sweat, but the Lord of the Kaaba, never. But the hypocrites would come and swear the biggest oath will lead you

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to believe that if you command to go up powerful stuff, why? Because they're liars. That's why. So now we're in a world where people are swearing by law, they're the biggest liars and they're using oath using the name of Allah subhanaw taala, as one of the scholars said, I've never seen one but but Allah, not lying, nor even telling the truth, since I've,

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since he matured, basically, never not even telling the truth. He said, just out of respect for swearing by Allah xojo, meaning taking an oath using the name of Allah.

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And not just normally. So.

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So So now you imagine you understand how powerful it was to hear the police saying, I swear to you by Allah, that I'm only giving you advice. There's no way you would think someone is lying and swearing by the law from the people in that world who understood the how, and the magnificence and how a big deal it was to swear by laws.

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Yeah, no, what verse give me num number. I didn't mention the number, but it's in the late 40s.

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I'm imagining is 46 or 4853 5353, the three year

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was to know it all by numbers.

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Okay, well, we know there's so much good stuff here.

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So, let's see.

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This is a statement from even Tamia, Mo but he says, Well, Jim hora and MBR una, min and kabbah me doing a saga. He said the majority of scholars are are on this opinion or the consensus that the prophets are in need. Basically, they're protected from falling into major sins, as opposed to minuses. So atoms are excellent is sin here? Was it major or minor? Well, the verse says, This is sort of Baja verse 115115. Well, I thought that I hit either gamma min cabin, fantasy or whether or

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not we indeed made a covenant with Adam before, but he forgot. And we found on his part, no firm willpower. So under Islam for God, and He ate from the tree, we're gonna explain what he forgot. But in general forgetting, is it a sin?

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It's not. So why would this be? Well, all these punishments come as a result of the set? Let's keep going in order. So before we get to that, we're going to discuss So what kind of tree was it that other mycelium ate from? And some scholars said it is Szeged and hindpaw and hinta, which is excuse me, which is wheat? And,

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okay, how is a wheat plant a sugar up which is tree in Arabic? Well, in Arabic, in classical Arabic, there is not a difference between tree and plant, it's the same word. And there's proof from the Quran unicyclists Allah when the will spit him out in the shore, Allah subhanaw taala says one button, I

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mean, you have to clean which is pumpkin. And pumpkin is a plant, it's not a tree. So it was too cold the shadow. And we said, just like the bar, because the bar is a sea or an ocean or large body of water, but there wasn't in the classical Arabic a word for ocean and a word for sea. So some scholars said is the sweet other said that it's a fig tree.

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And, and realistically, because they say that if there was any benefit to knowing what kind of fruit Allah subhanaw taala would have told us, and that's what what kind of food wasn't really important. Others even said it was an apple, and then when he took the bite and got stuck in his throat, and that that lump was why people called Adam's apple, right? And we said

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and we said Apple, why do students always give an apple to their teachers, we

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In the Bible, there was a tree of knowledge and the teacher gives you knowledge and then Apple computers as the apple with a bite taken out of it. It goes back to that story in Genesis.

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So, but in general, even in the Bible, and nobody has ever mentioned the word apple. So where did the idea of Apple come from, and become so popular? One of the theories, and it's the only theory I've seen a lot. But is that

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something in translation, some mistake that have been in translation because there's,

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in in Latin, the word monlam means evil. Okay? So it's like, M, with,

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with like, a long a, l u, m, right? And then in Greek.

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Now in modern Greek, they call it Neo, and I actually looked it up just right, Apple in Greek, and then you hit the pronounciation button, and you hear it. So it's meelo. But it was written just like mailup this time now with the shorter A. So these two The theory is that the word for evil in Latin looks almost exactly like word for Apple in Greek. And you know how the Bible goes from Hebrew to to Latin to Greek to syrup, Syriac, Syriac, and then so on and so forth, are may come in and answer it. And then that they believe this makes up kind of happen there. And so the fruit became an apple, even though no passage says it's an apple.

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So one, three opinions on what Adam Alister lamb forgot, one group said that Adam did not eat from the exact tree he was forbidden to eat from, but another of the same kind. So let's, for the sake of argument, say it was a lemon tree. There were many lemon trees in the agenda. He was told don't eat from this kind of tree. So he didn't eat from that tree, but he ate from another lemon tree. And they said, it's a weak opinion. Right? Because he was told do not eat from heavy shadow from this tree or this type of tree. Right?

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that, so that was the week of the Second Opinion says that he ate from the same tree when he forgot, and the shaytaan swore to him, as we said in tomorrow.

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We mentioned the verse, a lot of verses 20 and 21. And then hear the verse that we mentioned, verse 115, and so far that we made a covenant with Adam, but he forgot. And we found on his part, no firm willpower. So

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forgetting was a sin for nations before us, but it's not a sin for us. Other nations had this, it's gonna say that forgetting was a sin for them. But it's not a sin for our own, just like coercion. If we're coerced, we can even say Khufu to save our lives, or to save the life of our children or a neighbor, things like that. But for them, they couldn't for other nations, they couldn't. That's why if you remember the story of the US hello to the people of the ditch, they had to die with the truth. You can't say something, even if your heart is firm, just to save your life, for those nations that have to die with the truth is very difficult. And that's why first, it's a great

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blessing that you don't have to die with the truth. And you know, the story of me I said when he was

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tortured him until he had to say bad things about the prophets of Allah. So he came back feeling so bad and apologetic, the positive and he said he was tortured so severely, that I said these words. And then the person asks, How do you find your heart said, I find it full of Mr. He said in our follow up, if they returned to do that again, then you say the same thing again, because our Alma could do that. But for me, it wasn't. So that's a second opinion that I sort of forgot that he wouldn't eat from the street. Now. You shouldn't eat from a tree. Now I know what you're thinking can eat with it. With all the things you can do an agenda, and there's only one dumped and you're

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gonna forget it. And you would think you would not forget that one tree, I don't care where it's put it. Right, you would not forget that one thing. Start looking at 50 laws, just one long, don't even this one treat and then you're gonna forget any from it. And you can eat anywhere else. So the third group said, know, what our demand is for God wasn't that he's not supposed to eat from this tree. But what he forgot was that his age was already determined for 1000 years. Because and, and he understands what your age is determined, and your age won't change and you're gonna die in 1000. Remember, and he saw his offspring and he saw one that was extra bright. We mentioned this five

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classes ago maybe. And he asked Who is that? though? I saw many gave him 60 years from his life 40 years from his life. So he knew who is supposed to die at 1000 and there is no way you can change the last part of his plan and information.

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And live forever like an angel, you cannot change that. And he knows about other than he knows the plan of a lot, because he was taught by laws. So he forgot that that there's no way you would change from the 1000 Allah wrote for you to eternity by eating from a fruit. So Iblees tricked him by saying that if you eat from this tree, you will get hold every holiday and everlasting life, even though he saw that his life was 1000 years, and,

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and he forgot that part. and wanting severely to become like the angels with worship Allah subhanaw taala better, and believing English when he swore to him by law that I'm only giving you good advice, then he ate from the tree.

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By now, just so we're fair, some scholars mentioned, they were commenting that, that people their nature is to love. They love Hulu, they love to live forever, they love the idea of being remembered after dying. And that's why they would try either one a purpose to leave a legacy or, you know, etch their name into a stone somewhere.

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If you're, you know,

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you're going to any Museum, whatever, and you find some guy in 1982, scratched his name deep into the stock.

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And even even in some of the historical sites, in Mecca, and so on, you'll find people scribbling their names. And so some said that's just part of the nature of wanting to be remembered and wanting to leave some something behind for all eternity and wanting Hello. But

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it couldn't be more so that you didn't just want to live forever to keep eating but you want it to worship Allah to Allah better

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shape than any other scholars say that it might be that we just didn't see the amount of time that elapsed between the time that I've made the covenant with him the date and the time that he forgot. Right? You know, I mean, it's Jenna is 1000 year old man anyway, so he's gonna be there. He could be there a long time. And we wouldn't Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the thought crosses your mind. But I don't know what how old he was when he hit the Earth right. Now, we don't know how old he was. I don't know. But I don't I mean, your question was that any of the scholars say that I've personally never seen any of the scholars mentioned that point. Because they're also other things.

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When they were at the tree, he's trying to convince them, they didn't eat from it right away would and he's have to swear to them by a large budget before they ate, which tells you they were resisting. That's what he's trying to convince them. You won't be like the angels, you will live forever, you will have everlasting life, I swear to you. So why is he because he's trying to convince you that you can, in your mind's eye imagine the boy standing there and resisting because they remember the street side, they completely were oblivious. And so why don't mean, the carpet age or anything like that, no, I got a kid. But the

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it's a good idea of another neighborhood is called dimension.

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and so this guy has also mentioned that the mistake of a layman is not like the mistake of a scholar. The mistake of a righteous person is not like the mistake when is when a prophet of Allah makes a mistake. And the universe is Allah. Why was he punished so much? And I think I mentioned this before, but why was unify sent and punished with the whales following him and all that he went through the difficulty? Because he left too soon, too soon for what he saw the punishment with his own eyes coming towards the village. And if you're there, and you know, a lot of punishment is coming, and then you see it actually coming. What do you say, that's my cue, get my bag, I'm out of

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here. I'm not going to wait. his mistake was he waited too much. That's a mistake for a profit. But if any righteous man saw the punishment coming red clouds and stuff, and left, it wouldn't be a mistake here. So this, the profits are held to a higher standard. So even forgetting here for getting your age that your life is determined to 1000 years is not acceptable in this case.

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but what's interesting that in the Quranic language, both were to blame, both were to blame. And in the Bible, this is Genesis chapter three, verse six there, that the blame is squarely put on the woman and it's straight up, she ate from everything. And then she says to the man, she gives the man in the Koran. A blaze comes and convinces, he gives the pitch to both of them. And they both eat. In Genesis, he pitches it to the woman, she pitches it to the math is squarely put on her. And a lot of things happened historically to women because of the story because of this little angle here. And that's what we're going to look at how much time do we have to the end?

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30 minutes.

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Yes, like the word insaan is like forgive

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Yeah, that's how

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Yeah. And that's what he forgot. He just forgot his his eight. They can't change that. But he couldn't have forgotten the fruit. That's why they were standing there and just trying to convince them for a while, which shows they were hesitating from from eating from it, because remember, that's the one because Allah subhanaw taala didn't say don't eat from this tree. He said, Well, I

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don't come near the street, because it's safer now. And if I told you just don't eat from the fruit, so then you sleep under the tree, then come smell the fruit.

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Rub on the food.

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Don't even come near the street. So we know that they remember the things trying to convince them over and over again giving them arguments. Okay, so what happened?

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Realistically, what happened to women as a result of the biblical version of the story, because

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in the Quran, vaca sama, Houma network Kasama, who he swore to both of them, but as a lovable man, he took both of them out of the path or cause them to slip both of them. And both, and it's always both both both both when they ate from the tree, and so not she ate that she gave him and saw, but the Bible is clearly the woman gives the man that will check it. And it's the woman in all the versions, and I did I double check it completely. He sells it to her, she's added to the map. Now in Islam, she didn't eat first, but that doesn't mean anything. Right? Because let's say there are five people and you're gonna get them all to do something bad. And they all do it. At this point, does it

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matter which one, eight first and wait third, and with fourth from it. They're all convinced with your pitch. The fact that you're having moved faster, they take a bite before me doesn't make you worse than me or anything. So she took the first bite. But she didn't blame us. She didn't convince advice enough, he heard the pitch. And he never accuses her of doing anything. rather he doesn't even accuse the shape on or blame the shape on. And that's interesting. The scholars, if you look at the Quran, the Quran, never ever blame someone else for another sin ever. Not even a police. Even a police is not blamed for anything. Because you make even the shaitaan you might say how shaytan is

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always telling us do this do that. don't pray do this hot up. Yeah, but he doesn't force you. Like he just gives you a suggestion. Go and rob a store.

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And you can leave it or take but he doesn't like put a gun in your head where this gun came from drag you out to the store and make you rub the guy who doesn't force you to anything. That's one of the Day of Judgment he believes uses that same argument. He says in Mr. TAO to come first. To me. I just made an invitation to you and you responded to the invitation for pneumoniae?

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Don't blame me for blame yourselves. I just gave you a suggestion here. So that's why the Quran never blames any sin on someone else. Adam civils not blamed on the shape on and on however, anything

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for example.

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So we have this notorious dictators like Hitler

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commanded his army to do genocide. So how does that translate into this?

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How do you explain that in this right? Okay, so

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do you see that the soldier can stand on their judgment say a lot. I mean, Hitler made me do it. Nobody made you do anything. So okay, I'll get I'll get shot. If I don't go out with the army you can go out nobody told you to start cutting people up and gassing people or doing anything. You could just be the guy who just smokes by the gate and not doing anything but who got you involved and made you do all the Hitler's and standing over your shoulder yelling at you to do it. Right. That's why you can't any and but there is or not saying there is no level of blame on those in positions of leadership. That's why Allah tells us the dialogue and the Hellfire mela protected from

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it between the people in the leadership position, and those in the bottom position. And they were saying they're the ones that y'all are. They're the ones who will misguided us to double their punishment. And then they're saying they're the ones who did double their part and latos and both of you get double the punch. So yeah, there is a level of of you pulling someone into the evil, but you don't force anyone to do it in the enemy. Still suggestion. But if someone put a gun to your head and said, if you don't shoot this person, I'll shoot you. This is coercion here. Court you were coerced? Right? Don't shoot them. The point is,

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so, so here we are here. Let's let's look at this idea. Two things that happen.

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One when you look at the story of Adam and Eve in the Bible,

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The blame is on her work.

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But in the Quran, we're also ababu and Adam disobeyed his Lord, no blame is put on. Hello, Adam disobeyed. Okay.

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robina, Valentina fusina, all plural form or Lord, we did unjust injustice to ourselves, plural. So there is no blame on the woman in the Quran. When the Bible said the blame is quite strong. So what happened?

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two things. One, they started to see that the woman caused man, the fall of man meant to come out of paradise. So they start to blame, to say, women are the source of all evil. We're talking about early Christianity.

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Read some of the books on early Christian from early Christian and writers and theologians and the debate seems to have or just Google it, you'll find some very, very interesting things. And some of the things too expensive for me to go into. That's number one, women being the source of evil in the Bible, the cause for the fall of man and everything. Number two, they saw that

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they misunderstood that because he saw his solemn Jesus, he didn't get married, and he warned people from the materialism of this world.

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Why because he came to a people who are really into materialism. So his message was strong against materialism, to offset their severe materialism. So they felt like they had to be like ASAP, and insula, the role model and to not get married. And so they innovated what is known as robinia, or celibacy. Allah did not command them to be celibate at all, meaning to never get married, but they innovated into the religion. And that's what Allah says in the Quran, WA Anita

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and celibacy which they innovated into the religion, a lot didn't come out, not in the Bible, not anywhere, old New Testament, nothing. So

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you start, you understand a lot of misconceptions stemming just from this. So we're going to just try to follow the train of thought here. So

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celibacy, Jesus not being married, warning them from the religion and the dunya and everything. So they began to believe in their dogma and religiously that that

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basically, intimacy or * itself is evil. Okay. And if you look at the early writings, you will see very much obsession with this issue. I do find some interesting things. And I don't want to get explicit, but Catholics had.

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Yeah. I don't like saying these things. But

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in * police, they call them right. And these people

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don't ask me how they operate it. But they one of the things is that, you know, there were certain positions that were illegal. And it was something that you only do for procreation, not for enjoyment. And if you enjoyed it, it was sinful. She enjoyed intimacy with the wife, that was a sin. And that's why you only do that if you want to have children. If you don't want to have children, you don't do that. Okay.

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So, then put on silent.

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Then the saw, these are early Christians. Now when they first encountered Islam, they saw that in the Quran, women mentioned as your garment and the bass, the verses of Attica, Ramadan suit and Bukhara shortly thereafter, talking about, you know, the spouses being intimate with each other, just right after verses of worship verses of intimacy, like there's nothing wrong, there's no filth, nothing evil about it. And so because of how

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so. So basically, they're a combination of the example of a salad salad with what they have about the woman being the cause of all evil, they start to have, for lack of a better term, a very negative attitude towards women. But they also as an extension of this thought, they began to see that

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when it comes to paradise, it doesn't make sense didn't make sense to them. That something evil meaning intimacy, would be something you would enjoy in paradise. to them. It was like murdering in paradise. Why would someone want to slaughter someone had something evil? So they saw it's something evil? Why would it be in paradise? Watch how the thoughts are just escalating. So because of that, this started to make paradise spiritual, not physical. Yeah, they started in the only way to say Paradise is just spiritual. Because if it's physical, how you're gonna have intimacy and if something evil, even though nobody said it's evil in this point, but just snowball effect of these

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thoughts. So even though the interesting thing is when they portray paradise in their books and movies and everything, how do they portray it? Physical, right, because how are you going to have reward on the spirit only the spirit just can just floating around that's paradise floating.

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Drink, something explodes

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Great fall right through. So it doesn't make sense. That's what always is. Contrary to the dogma, they will show it as some being something spiritual.

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Yeah, so then they see. So now we're saying, Ah, Alison never get married celibacy, * is evil, gender, therefore is spiritual.

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Then they see that in Islam, that there is eating and drinking in paradise. There's companionship, husbands and wives and those who don't get married will get married an agenda that a man on this earth can marry for the problem had nine wives at one point. And then their best example he never got getting married at all. They came to the conclusion that the Muslims are just sexual beings.

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that's, and that's why when they first saw Muslim woman, and hijab, they said that because the Muslim men are so hyper sexually, that the woman must cover up or they will be attacked by these men. And then that's why they show you the images of these what I forgot what they call this time period where the older drawings of the harems the herding, they call it the harem Xia where they show you this woman who Mashallah was in the cabin her face but then

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I don't know describe a bathing suit. Mashallah, what is this you cover the face and, and all these images and lots of women and the harem image that's developed by Hollywood. And now this explains those of you who are old enough to remember also, you will understand why in earlier movies, the old we showed the Arab as who's old enough to remember.

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Nobody was always * crazed in the movies. Nobody remembers that. Imagine you remember that.

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was always this guy with googly eyes. broken tooth teeth, Danny. And he always says

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Yeah. And then he always said what how much

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insight with names Jani you are young remember The Cannonball Run movies? The guys with the red thing the Arab guys. They just would go and hit the brakes. And then they see a woman always made them very women. Even some of the more recent movies the movie with that guy who always has that one dumb slow motion kick was in a band down, right?

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This guy in Bloodsport, if you remember. The Arab guy comes to the blonde woman who wants to take her to his room. But why? Because that's how Arabs are. They don't care if you have a personality or yes or no they just do.

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And then what happens when dumb does that game with him or he puts the coin and then he says if you can take the point.

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Let's stop this nonsense.

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What are we saying now?

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Next one

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is still in

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so you understand what's happening, right, that will be taken, huh? taken will be taken. Also the one who had his daughter was why was he doing

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rainwater? Yeah, he just bought it, he bought her literally part of the big * trafficking.

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Take her again.

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But the whole thing was that scene where I'm gonna save the the woman, cuz you can take the point from my hand, and then he closes it, the guy's too slow and whatever. But that was an Arab guy, because he wears the red thing. You know? And that's enough to make the guy look completely Asian. But I mean, like, you know, anyway, that was that whole if the early 80s movie 80s movies were or 70s and stuff, the Arab was just six screens in every movie. Now you understand why people have such an issue with the 71 or 76 virgins or whatever it is and agenda, right? Like, erupts. Everyone's so upset about these people believe they'll get virgins in general, why are you so upset? Like, you,

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me, that's something you really into, like you should be like, very cool. They get the you know, that was such a big deal to them. Because that's a remnant of that old dislike to the whole. Islam being very relaxed with that issue. Then what happens? So what's happening now is that the Muslims were here, they're in the middle. Okay. But at some point, the early Christians were so far to the right, what happened when you really fought to the right, and you turn and look at the guy in the middle? What does he look like?

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Now, where were they? Yeah, so they saw the Muslim the way to the left, because it's not a dirty thing. It's not a filthy thing. They can have multiple wives, that these people are extreme. When it comes to *, they're over six, then they start to shift away from their religion, religion, and then they go into the period called the Enlightenment, enlightenment, then they start to get into secularism and Darwinism, then they get into what is known as the sexual revolution, where suddenly you can have any partner you want, as many partners you want, homosexuality, *, any kind of deviance was accepted. Now they move forward to the left, and the poor must be in the same place,

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then they start looking at them and saying, you guys way over there, you're way too conservative. Women are covered, they need to deliberate. So now you're thinking, because you're always thinking, why is it when the

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nun is covered. There's no stigma attached to that. But when the Muslim woman is covered, old, is old, she's oppressed, and we need to liberate her and all that when the Orthodox woman is covered. There's nothing about liberating her. But when it's all this, it's all goes back to this to Genesis and to celibacy, or Teresa, I'm not getting married, and all these ideas spiraling out of control. And then they go through the sexual revolution, all the other stuff we mentioned, and suddenly that Muslims are far too conservative, and now they want to remove a job. They have issues with intermingling. And and if you remember, what, a year or two ago and, you know, in the UK, in the

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universities were really upset about Muslim separating events. And even though Muslim sisters were saying, we do not want to sit with men at this event, and do not, you can't segregate. And that's why now, many events, we cannot officially segregate. And if you sit next, no one's gonna say anything to you, because you can't anymore. It's, it's all tying into that. I know, I kind of rushed through that. But trust me, you go home. And I just Google that again, just to see what you would find if you Google it. And you will see all these early writings of of the debates and the discussions they had about sexuality and all that. And then they go through the sexual revolution.

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And suddenly, hey, the Muslims are conservative. Even though we've been in the same place, nothing changed.

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And that's why it's important for us that our standards don't change based on the changing. Not saying can change. issues can change within safe I'm saying, like, my standard is just gonna change based on what people around me like or don't mind. You know? So if people suddenly like beards and beards are in fashion, suddenly my beard grows. Suddenly, beards are ugly and horrible and all that and then suddenly yoga. Let me just try

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Yeah, we're not like that. We were not supposed to just go with the waves like that with the flow. Anyway, let me let me end on a good spot here before we go.

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Let me let me do this discussion.

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Basically, how is it?

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Basically what we talked about, was that the question you asked three classes ago, before I leave, are asking, what was it? That How was it that

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the only answers?

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Well, one, no. One who said the police wanted to use the intense love Adam had to,

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to swore to them using the name of a lot. And for sure, either my son's gonna believe that. And then there are other issues that you mentioned. That's how a smart person will be tricked by the person that was.

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Okay, let me see here. There was the question then was how? It's a very big question. It's all over the place. How is it that a police was able to enter back into agenda after he was kicked out of it? Right. And we already looked at some examples, some, some arguments, some said maybe he whispered from a distance, nothing said that he went back into an agenda.

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And some said that he entered and this is from Israel yet he entered, and many scholars mentioned it because from Israel, India, you do have scription of Judeo Christian narrations or traditions that have made their way into Islam A long time ago, we take them at face value, as opposed to them said, and as long as they don't disagree with the Quran, Sunnah. So from this idiot, that he believes enters into the mouth or inside the surface, and comes into Jenna, in the serpent or other say, maybe the scope himself as a serpent change form, came in the form of a circuit and spoke to them. And now, again, you you weren't there? So? And you don't have the evidence to say yes or no right

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now? Because you don't know that. But could there be some truth to the serpent story? It's very possible, it's very possible that he came back in the form of this circuit. Because if he came back into single the form of the same guy, he was told, do not let him take you out of agenda and you will suffer? That would be a bit too much. So it came in the form of this serpent, and spoke to Adam, is there any kind of proof? There is a hint to what will allow that I'm not saying anything, but I am saying something. There is a hadith that mentions

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about the relation that mentions the relationship between humans and snakes. And it says that due to the early animosity, what early animosity early and our what would be this early animosity, some scholars said, that's what it is because in the form of the serpent, at least came and tricked myself to get up. Now, here's something interesting. They said, Well, some scholars argued how Allah subhanaw taala will ban you from coming into a gym, you're going to sneak in under his watch, it's impossible. Well, first of all, there's a powerful response from from the other group that says, first of all, where does it say that at least was in agenda?

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Yeah, what does it say that he was an agenda. item was an agenda. He eats there and everything in place wasn't hanging around the agenda. He was up in the heavens, so far from Jamaica, as we discussed, some group of scholars said it means go out of agenda. Other said no, it means go out of this high ranking position. So there was nothing to say you are not allowed to go back into a gym. And then some people said, Oh, why didn't Allah stop him when he came into a gym? But that was the whole idea. It was a test. And what did a police say when he was banned? And when he was kicked out of high position, he said, and he swears to Allah by his might, that I was that I will get basically

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straight them away from your path. So allows you to know is this is the test. And he's going to allow them to be tested. That was the whole point. So that's why Yes, allows you knew that he was going to come back whether in whispering or in the form of the serpent but Allah spot I knew that and he let him come in. Otherwise, he would have stopped. Of course, there's no way he's going to sneak in.

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That was that the whole idea is to test the promise and even at least knows he's going to try to misguide them. And she said, let me live until the day of judgment. Which What do I have a minute or so? Which was just I want to bring up this point. When I spoke about the opinion last time, please, dying a little bit for the Day of Judgment. Some people hold that opinion they say it means he dies with the first blow.

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So he lives until the first one

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longer the trumpet than he does with everybody else. And of course he's gonna die, the Angel of Death will die at least he's gonna stick around. He's gonna die to that explosion of that opinion. And

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okay, we stopped here inshallah. So, it seems according to my notes, we've got about two classes left, and we've got three before Ramadan.

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For attentive listening, we'll take the questions next week, I guess

This lecture was given on May 03, 2017 at the ISGH River Oaks Islamic Center.

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