How To Give Shahada In 10 Minutes 2 Of 8

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All right, let's do this. Ask me the most difficult questions about grammar you can think of

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the most difficult or whatever you think to be difficult. And don't ask me like mortgages and stuff.

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No, that's not difficult.

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So most people Yes, sir.

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Okay. Ah, that's difficult, right? Yes, sir.

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Very good. When I was writing this down as well, I just think one brother.

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Yes, sir.

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Yes, sir.

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Yes, most of them.

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Okay. Very good.

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Oh, yeah.

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Oh, okay. But give me a specific question that person might ask so we can answer it. Yes, sir.

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You right. Okay. Just put the bullet point we remember what it is.

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Like what came before God? what came before God?

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Did what? Uh huh.

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If God is all powerful, and he doesn't need anyone.

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Okay, what is?

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What is the

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evolution? evolution? Just there's no questions at all. You should know the answer. That's good. Yeah.

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slavery in Islam. Yeah. So what about the suffering of animals?

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Humans, like a hunted animal by a tiger suffering. Okay, good. Why

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is that tough question?

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Okay, fine, whatever. It's tough. It's fine. Yes, sir. I was gonna say God was merciful. Was there someone suffering?

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Suffering an honor? Yes, sir.

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Muslims have to kill animals to eat them stuff like that. Is that tough? It is good. So

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but there's a tough question because you don't want to be burping the hell for

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me tough questions.

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Can you prove revelation came to? How can you prove that exists? That's not really tough, but okay. Every religion promises.

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So essentially, how do you know this is the truth that will take you to paradise? Right? Great. You sir.

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Okay, yes, sir.

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Okay, but

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put that as a different page in the Muslim question, but yes, sir. How can you prove there

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was actually a messenger? Uh huh. Good. Yes. Thank you. Finally, sister that doesn't know something. Go ahead.

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What How can you believe what you can do or how can you Where is it that would be how do you prove the existence of Allah? Right?

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tough, tough. Tough question. Yes.

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Good. Yes.

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Yes. Very good. Yes.

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What? Why not? Why not? Not work?

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Okay. Yes, sir.

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we're answering that together. Yeah.

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How can religion say that killing people will actually

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show you

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Yes, I've read about Islam and Muslims come to life, but I never see the goodness of doing bad things. Why would I join religion that people don't do? Tough?

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Why can't that worship God?

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Okay, actually don't put that one down. Because that's coming

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out from this is

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possibly a quality question. That's good.

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There you go. The one who apostatize is stoning. The good stuff. Yes.

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Okay, good

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luck. Oh, yeah.

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Okay, good.

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For about

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760 7080 whatever years of good or bad, I'm gonna get an eternity of Paradise or hell. Okay. And you know the answer to that. Okay, but you heard that question? That's a good question. So if someone disobeyed the law for 50 years, what is not love to talk to them for 50 years?

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They did a bit of love for 50 years only. Why did they get eternity in the Hellfire?

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Everyone see the question?

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more time, someone disobey the legend. 50 years of sentences you get 50 years of hell.

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I mean, in the worst case, 100 years of hellfire. What is eternity in the Hellfire? Brilliant question. You should get some kind of a price. Good question. And yes, sir.

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Okay, fine, sir.

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Nobody stay in Calgary permanently.

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Anything else? Anything tough? Yes, sister.

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A lot of what questions?

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Okay, but don't write it. In the note coming up. Okay. Yes, sir.

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Now, what's gonna happen to Mother Teresa?

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Mother, Teresa?

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No, well,

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you have two options. You can be right beside and see what happens to her. Or you can look at her.

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Okay, so

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All right, great. But now and you want me to answer all these questions, right?

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That you ask all the tough questions, and guess who has to answer them later? You do. So you're going out to these questions. Now you can answer these questions after you know a lot of techniques. So it wouldn't be that difficult. Trust me.

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To prove it to you, I can ask you some of them right now. And we'll see how long it takes us to answer them. And then we're gonna go through some of the techniques and you'll see that it takes you a lot, so much easier to answer after you know, some of the techniques. But okay, let's move forward now. So these were all the excuses. Why are things that would stop someone from becoming a Muslim, or stop you from being an effective diet and bringing people to snap, and they're not just limited to those five on the board, they're probably a lot more.

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Going over there, you know, sit down our street dry if you read it, it's quite self explanatory. I'm mostly I'm concerned trying to get us to talk about things that we we need skills that we need for the next week or two, or maybe the rest of our lives. So I don't want to necessarily talk about you know, sit down. I mean, obviously, you said that already. I want to show you when I skip a page, it's not a big deal. to skip. Skip this were discussed point number one. We did for number two, self explanatory, that's why I skipped it. Point number three self explanatory.

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So that's why when I skip a page, you can trust the NFL. That's not a big deal. But if you insist, and put your hand up and say why did you skip that one? For example, there's one here too, that they repeated argument, rephrase and say back to them. So this is one of the techniques when someone asks you a question. They keep

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tossing religion with you. You explain to them they say the same thing over and over and over again. Well, that's because he died for our sins. And that's why this doesn't matter for explaining you talk well, but Jesus died for our sins. And that's why you explain again, what they're really telling you is, I don't think you heard me. So they're gonna keep repeating anytime, not just in that one anything in life, your child, your friend keeps repeating the same thing over and over to you, they keep repeating it to you because they don't think you've heard them. So the way to get them to stop repeating it is to

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rephrase it and say, let me see if I'm understanding you correctly. You're saying that because he died for our sins, this, this, this and that. Now they feel they hurt me. Now they feel comfortable, never stopped. Repeat the argument. So that's what that was about.

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You know, that would be the internet. That's why I'm just showing you the Piglet skip through. So it's saying, stick to the point, meaning, you're not just throwing random pieces of information and just copying and pasting from other sides of it. And then plugging it into the the chat or whatever the email.

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The rules are the same rules of data, where you start with tauheed, you build on the five pillars, things like that, you know, you give them further, you know, links for further reading, as a general rule men for communicate with men and women try to communicate with women, because you don't want to give the shape on an avenue. And so many times you'll get emails or calls and someone will say, I started giving this guy Dawa. And now I'm emotional, a woman who say that now emotionally attached, you know, or we have all those data brokers do all these things, TCP law.

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Everything is for the sake of Allah. One time interrupted, this guy told me he says, You know, I like the system. But

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I said, aren't you sweet?

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Let me just run through the ones that I was talking about. You know, so this is just the, it tells you the six slides I'm about to talk about. You know, when you're putting out pamphlets, scenario with heavy traffic, and this is what we're talking about yesterday, you know, you want to hand out as much material as possible, you spread out to people, you can't miss that area. So you've got, you know, four entrances, let's say this is an entrance, that one, and those two, and there's a lot of traffic, people are going to be coming in and out of this room. So I'm gonna have a brother, their brother, their brother, their sister, their data, pass out material, and not just gonna have people

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in front of this one door, and then I'm missing those three dots of a flat. Don't talk to each other too much. You always see this one because people are too embarrassed. Okay? I have tons of people who come in through that door and I don't want to stand for the door and say information about Islam. So here we go some reading material for you. Here you go. There you go. There you go. embarrassed. So I want to look like I'm busy doing something else. So I grab other Ziad over here and I start telling him, you know, we need to do that woman, we need to work for this Dean to this Dean can become have the upper hand on this earth who can inherit the earth as I promise to believe

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it? Okay, we'll do some work for the dean, you know, you don't talk to each other. A lot of times, you just keep talking about the importance of doubt one another as people are walking by. So you plan here, remember, your goal was to end up as much material as possible. Sometimes that's your plan. Sometimes your plan is no, I just want to talk to as many people as possible. You know, your pastor is just there to start the conversation, you pass it, you look them in the eye, you ask a question, they stop, you start talking. Sometimes you just want to pass out material, like you know, especially rallies and stuff like that people are already chanting things is not much time to talk,

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just hand up materials as much as possible. Don't do the thing where two brothers keep talking to each other about working for less work, do the work. So

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you know, don't miss a single person or the guy give him a pamphlet and he said, What do I do now? It could be another guy like that. But you missed them because you're telling talk to your brother over here. Don't talk just pass it on pass material. Have a catchphrase. Now the whole idea is you want people to stop and talk to you.

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And if you just want to pass a pamphlet, just throw them in the air. But you want to talk to people at some point. So the one of the ways people will stop you have a catchphrase? So when give me a catchphrase

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someone new

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meaning someone who has not heard the works of somebody new catchphrase, what would you say? Want to give someone something to read about it? What would you say?

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no wrong answer. Yes.

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What do you know about it's not gonna go? Well, you know, but it's not.

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What? Learning prosper. I like that. I like that. I like that. I never heard that one before. Learn. prosper. Wow. Good. Yes, sir.

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What's your purpose?

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What's the purpose of life? It's not a bad one. Very good. Yeah. For your salvation for your brother's hardcore.

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Your salvation. Yes, sir.

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Very good. Learn about your Lord. Do you know your Lord, protect us.

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Protect Oh, man, I like this guy.

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Never heard that before.

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So protect yourself. Hi.

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Great, Excellent. Excellent. Excellent. Anyone want to add anything?

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What's up?

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Okay, nice. Nice. Good. And then possibly when you say that your password has something to do with that, right? Great. Yes, sir. You already know the answer. You're sorry. You already know the answer. You might say that as you're handing it out.

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Uh huh. Okay, good. Good. Excellent. One more. Yes, sir. Explorer, slow Explorer. It's not man.

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The truth is near. Okay. truth. The truth is here. Okay, good. So now, the one I might use just happens to be the one but I'm using protect yourself.

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free information on the purpose of life. That's just what we say just be information on the purpose of life free beneficial, they take it Thank you very much, have a nice day free information on the purpose of life, they refuse it Thank you Have a good day. If they take it? No.

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Then sometimes they look you in the eye for information on the purpose of life, what is the purpose of life, sir. And then it might tell you something. And whatever, right or wrong, it doesn't matter. The whole point is they stopped. And I said, Well, this is what Islam says the purpose of life. And he started talking free information on the purpose of life free and beneficial. And my thing is, you either take it or you hear it. So if they don't want to take the content from me, I want to still make sure they hear the message. So free information on the purpose of life. They don't take it. And what is the purpose of life, sir, to worship the Creator is the purpose of life. Thank you very much

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free information on the purpose of just like that, you know, you're walking around, you're talking to people. Morning, you're greeting them. I was talking, we already looked like Osama so smile when you meet people, you know, it's a nice experience to smile. Good morning, and good day, thank you very much. They take it, you thank them. They don't take anything, it's not a problem. And that makes that whole shy thing and embarrassing thing go away. They say no, just thank them very much. And that's it. And it has happened in the past when when you refuse, like one time someone refused to take a bath. And I still thank them. And they came back and they liked the fact that you know,

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you were protected. So you know, thank you, I'll take

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this matter. Fine. So.

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So I think I won't just go over them quickly. So we didn't skip anything. Now here in the end, know what you're handing out? And what you're handing up. I want you to think of a number of things here. First of all, not every conflict is good.

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That's true. There's some factors that are not good. They're not Well,

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that's true. And some of them and the majority may be are and we're just now starting to see some new stuff come out. But for the last 15 years, we've been handing out stuff printed in the 70s with that horrible ink, and weird language and not relevant and just so on and so forth. So not every conflict is good. And not every good pamphlet. We've established that it's good. Every good conflict is appropriate. Right? who practices polygyny, conflict.

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Yeah, it's a good password. When is it appropriate for every situation? and walking on the street just hanging out? Here you go.

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I have an event about women. So I have you know that who wears the veil, women in Islam, polygyny is inappropriate now. Makes sense now. So not every conflict is good, and not every good path is appropriate. So it's good to have a rough idea of what you're ending up.

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I'd like to suggest a conflict that roughly covers so hate the Prophet salah and other foreclosures. And something about maybe less than that. And there are many like that, by the way, most of them tend to have those important points in there. And so no, have a rough idea. just skim through it know what what you're handing up because a lot of times people they just you know, they come into the box of pamphlets handout. And so they so we're gonna have some of the green blues, nice, some of the red or any more of the pink. And we have problems. So it's not about the colors, you know what you're handing up? Because the joke is, you give it to a non Muslim and they say what is this about?

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And your answer is?

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Of course the All right, so know what you're handing out.

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Anyone want to ask anything about this page? You sir

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In Canada, people are a little bit different. Let's say that they're, they're nicer or meaner than in the States. But like, even at Walmart, in the United States, they have readers. And the greens are very aggressive in the States because Americans are like that, whatever they think the the state.

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In Canada, the readers are asked not to talk to people actually realize that when people come, be there, be seen, and people come to them and ask them progressions.

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And I've noticed that when I visited Dallas, people would pull out their life stories. You don't even know the greeters are just people, people in the street. It's It's strange. So, like, people say

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that they just

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had a bunch of pamphlets, it kind of, they think, you know, jobos witnesses and people like that. Uh huh. So, I think

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Okay, good. So well, thank you for saying that, you know, because I mean, obviously, I don't live in Canada, like I had this incident nearly three years ago, I want to give the workshop in the UK. And a lot of the things that applied to the US just were totally useless in the UK. You know, the whole section on Trinity was useless in the UK, most people don't believe in Trinity, most people are atheists. And the problem don't want it to there are the atheists Not, not those who believe in Trinity. So, so you're going to have to now adjust to what suits your locality or Europe, or your country. So as I go and pointing that out, you can always tell me Look,

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be quiet, because this doesn't apply here. I'll just skip that section. All right. So good. Now, now, I want us to think about this tomorrow, we can start to or maybe towards the end, and they'll start to formulate ways of responding or tweaking things. So it works for Canada, maybe what I just the demo, just give you a telephone call, you know, free information on the purpose of life maybe doesn't work here in Canada. So we might do it another way.

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You tell me what that is. I can't tell you what that is. Maybe we're just gonna hand out guns, but without saying a word. I don't know. Maybe that makes a difference. Or maybe you just might ask a simple question. Or you might just say, you know, pray the Take this. I don't know what you do. But someone told me something by the end of the day, okay.

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Okay. Thank you, sir.

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Anything else? Good point. Anyone else? Yes, sir.

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Like I said, any of the mentioned those basic things, trifold. That's what you pass on more than anything else. The more expensive you get to the serious person, the bigger the book or the pamphlet, you give it out when you feel that person might read or will read or they ask for it. Specifically, someone said, I want to put on a gift to briefly Illustrated Guide to Islam. It used to cost a lot back then. And you just don't throw it out like a trifold pamphlet. But sometimes you meet someone you feel this person will read, you give it to them, or they actually see that book and they're more interested in it in a small pamphlet, you give it to them. So but you know, one of the

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ones that I like also the one called just one message, you

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know, okay, well, I really like that one. If you write it down, you will have a rough time getting hold of it. I've always promoted it, people can't find it. And even I give them the email address and phone numbers and everything from the pamphlet and none of them work whatsoever. But right, you're right, you're wrong. Okay. Now, just one message. What what what I like about it brief, to the point, it gets people to think outside of the box and never ever seen this except in that one half of it asked for the Shahada in the end. Excellent. You know, the credit card application says fill this form out now. It asks for your business. Everyone covered.

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If you don't burn it, do what you this will happen.

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Have a nice day. This one says you need to become so much now look for, you know, a messed up look and conquer and contact them and becomes so you can write your own? Yes, sir. Would you recommend

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like a follow up card if you're interested? Or you have more questions or you want to contact this email, sure. Or you can have that sticker you stuck it on all your confidence that you're going to end up to have the email address of MSA or the MR that you're associated with whatever it is so works differently.

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When you talk to people

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So here again, quite clear, you know, stay with the topic. The rules are the same. The rules, you've talked about the same thing if it's one person or 50,000 people not hear the talk, change. Don't misrepresent. It's not a lot of times people try to tell the audience something by the standards really not true to make them feel more inclined to become a Muslim.

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shall not be dull, you know, or, or MSA, dealt with table type doubt, just for those who I will be using a lot of examples for the sake of the example of dialogue that went about, but I am not a big fan of anymore. Okay? That doesn't mean it doesn't work, but I'm just not a big fan of it, I just want to put that out there. Because most of the time, I'll tell you, we were in DC, we were doing that when this happened. And that happened. But I'm not a big fan of that. And

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you know, when you do it, even within university setting, I recommend that you'd be in groups or in pairs.

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Travel as a group of this big main road, or we stay as a group in North Korea, but then we break up into pairs. If we can, ideally, it's just, there's so much benefit of the partner coming to that,

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you know, take security consideration. You know, sometimes you might buy a little bit more time, it's only walk with them a little bit, to learn from one of our young God. But the point is, that's more religious, a lot of it does apply to your university.

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We already went through this slide, the next one, and I think we went through that as well. And we were saying that, you know, don't give the ship on an avenue. So we don't want to always, you know,

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disguise taking out in the prettiest girls out to dinner to talk them about a loss. That's not how it works.

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So we don't do stuff like that. And once the talk goes beyond or outside of what what it is in Islam, then we have a problem. So even if the sister is telling this person have a lot to sell him, there's no one else except her fine. But the minute it gets into, hey, Google, I like the color of your your hijab or your shoe, and I have a problem.

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So one way we solve that we used to is that this is our data table. We have two brothers over here and two sisters over there. And guess who comes to get information from brothers?

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Yes, Jennifer and Edwina and Vanessa,

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and get who comes to the sisters to learn about us now. Chad, Brad and the other guy. So what happened? We did a quick trade.

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So she comes She wants to learn about stuff. Okay, well, let me introduce you to asphaltum over here, this is Vanessa, she was lucky enough

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to come back here they bring in Chad or whoever comes. And you just keep it like that don't give * on an average. But if there's nobody there, how about you?

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All right.

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What's up,

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move on and talk about something. When we're talking about pamphlets. And saying not every pamphlet is good. You know, there's this thing where when it comes to the home, we don't study. And we don't engage. Even those of us who were scientists in life, when it comes to data, science flies out the window for some reason.

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A lot of times, this is how a good answer is written. Some guy opens up Microsoft Word, he starts to type what feels good. He prints it. Next he shows it to his friends, they read it, this is great. You're almost overnight, this is excellent. And then they say let's print 100,000 copies of it. Great. But this is how I would like to see some group put the past without and there's actually a group in Australia that

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they're doing a great job. They have put a lot of study into formulating an effective password.

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When actually when I spoke about this at the workshop, they were in there and they keep doing the breaks. And we've been actually doing this we're working on, you know, pamphlet. They wrote it that they're going to get you know different focus groups and people to read it of different ethnicities, different religious backgrounds, different age groups, male, female, and then they're going to take this survey, what part Did you understand? What part Did you like the most? Which part was confusing, then they're going to adjust and make the necessary changes, then that will make 100,000 copies. Makes sense. Makes sense? Right? So not just what feels good to me or what sounds good to

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So like there's, there's one guy that I know he owns an audio company, you only sell audios of the recital that he likes

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you you don't let this recite, but there's 100,000 other people that like this recital, you only get to sell them what you like. So everyone has different tastes. So the same thing, unlike this pamphlet.

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So hello.

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now get other people that seem novice and how do they feel about so that's what I'm saying with comes 2010 we forget about studies

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Got a PhD in something related to physics, right? Look at the fields that this sticks. And there was a non Muslim who read a copy of the Quran who was offended by one statement

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in the translation of explanation, and she started going on campus telling people don't ever get this copy out. to not use them say the fence them is just one person who was offended, that you can walk around saying it offends them. Now, that copy has actually been in circulation for about 15 years. It's one of the most popular, many people can do some because of it. And very few if any people have complained. Now this one guy now after 15 years of circulation has complained. She's saying let's let's take it off the shows. Because if one person and she studied statistics, what happened to science suddenly without you want to go on? But no, we don't want to go on study,

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science recently won a role on Baraka. And lately we've been running on fumes.

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So let's do some study. Okay, one more scenario.

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I don't know if we did this in part one. We do it.

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exercises. So basically, there's one person who called me up and said, Look, from now on, I'm going to I'm not going to like this, but I'm going to be organizing Islamic Nasheed concerts.

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And that will be my go to non Muslims. So what's your argument here? Or maybe you agree

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with your argument, someone tells you from now on my dad was organizing Islamic and she'd kind of bring, you know,

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native pickup, and he was dosing and whatever, and all that and then people become Muslim.

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have you have you verified that? all the artists are, what they're saying is correct. And their methods are?

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Fine. All right.

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But that's assuming that if their methods are correct, and their voices are heard, and their words are Hello, then that would probably be a good deal with it. That's assuming that

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says, Okay, I'm gonna have barbed wire and electric fence.

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you're all assuming that if there's no music, this will work? This is your target market? You must be what are your target market and stuff? I like to talk too much.

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Yes, sir. Yes.

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I was gonna say the same thing. What do you do?

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What makes you think that that is effective way of doing down? Okay. We need to establish that first, what makes you think this is an effective way of giving downs? And that was, I mean, you said in the very nice actually just said, I don't think he will become Muslim because of an Islamic machine concerts. He said, I'll get to you. Because now we got to the point that you probably right, but I'm telling you, this is what happened in the store. That's what I said to him. And this was his answer. Now, I need you to answer this part. He said, No. One time, I was at an Islamic Nasheed concert. And when the concert was over, a guy got up on stage and took a shot. So it does work.

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This brings people to Islam. Now respond to that. Have you tried sisters first?

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I mean, you're right, but he's gonna come back and argue with you again. Look, the guy took a shot after the concert so I'm gonna prepare concerts from now on invite different speakers. And that's it just

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excellent sister's a scientist not that you're wrong. Everybody was

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but the question was, how do you know that he became a Muslim? Because of the lyrics in the song? How do you know that? That is what they refer to as one data point. You just see one data point you don't know what happened before

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First of all, let's go all the way back first of all, do not look okay go ahead.

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but but like Now let's go back to the What sister was saying. So how do I know what happened to this guy to get them up on stage First of all, let's go backwards. Do not lose them usually flock to conference if they say no? native because coming to the top?

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Then we know who that is. So did they just come and flop to these concerts? So what what will you think why is that non Muslim there? what might have happened? Take a guess. Yeah, maybe

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He was he was already muscled out just as public Shahada possibly that's also very true. And sometimes there's some of those fake shots. I know, I've seen some of those guy took share the last week, we have an event today, so come and do it on stage. You know, it's just to the cry and stuff, but he was already.

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Yeah, his friend Ron is Muslim. Most likely he was invited by somebody. It's not like Michael Jackson came to town.

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The children, I mean,

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I can't resist the light. But if that guy really did become stem, I already told people I'm gonna book a flight to apologize.

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So what happens when we don't typically run to these concrete? They don't know these groups are most likely to get as soon his friends probably invited him to come with us. Now. Do we know what he went through before coming up on stage maybe he sat with him right half. Maybe they took him to Islamic events, fundraising dinners, and it took him to the masjid took him to the basketball game in the midst JT maybe went through so much before coming up on stage and finally saying the Shahada. So as the sister said, you just saw one data point, you don't have enough information to assume that he became Muslim because of the lyrics. And plus, it's a huge, huge concert, a lot of posters, a lot of

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advertising a lot of money to get one shot every time you could put that same effort money into something and get a lot more people to become Muslim. But you see what's what's wrong here? Yeah. Yes.

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them to read about Islam later.

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And maybe at some point later, they become virtually the

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sister saying, because she is not, you know?

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What's the word like?

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Yeah, it was something like that. Yeah, she's not, you know,

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putting aside the possibility that it could be something that works, or it could be something that is it's one step, or might catapult them into studying about a snap, that's true. But in order to say that means some kind of reason, I don't have any problems. Someone comes and says, look, we've done research, and actually brings, you know, every country will bring six people from the street into a snap. Great, at least now we have research research to support, don't you say? Well, once I saw that, I think because of this, and let's all do that? No. Okay.

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Great. So we're gonna move on a little bit. But the whole point it was an important point was let's study, let's see. And a lot of times, it's just a guest. And we all go on that guest. There's I told him, there's one popular speaker, I won't mention his name, very popular Daya. And he has a rule that in order to give doubt, you need to be what he used to have this rule in order to give value to be an African American.

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So please, all of you who are from you know, Arabs or from the indo Pak region. Get out.

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You know, so this rule that we went again, this was a double event, one to DC, I think I told you the story last month or something, we're all going to DC, give some doubt DC, predominately African American. So one Arab brother, he made a rule suddenly, and everybody liked it. He said, Every, every group, every group have to has to have a black person in it.

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So black people became a very hot commodity at that moment. Everybody was trying to grow a black guy.

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So in the end with two brothers, two Arabs who didn't have a black guy in their group,

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take action, and they were standing there complaining, we don't have a bloody

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I mean, when the guy said this rule, I just let it go.

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Just go and call people. You know, when we reconvene at the end of the day, each group had effectively gotten one shard, their group got to the only group that got to, and they didn't have a black guy in the group. So people make up these rules. There's no studies, just gut feeling running on both of you. But that's not how we want to do.

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Whatever you do, we want to base it on something. And sometimes you might base it on nothing, but it's your experiment. Yeah. And I don't have any proof to say this might work but I'm gonna try it.

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As an experiment, if it doesn't work, I try something else is not not saying go be creative with that. Right? Be creative. But don't make up these rules. We can experiment and test these rules, but we don't bank on them.

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Okay, so how it sounds we'll have this one replace myself.

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Okay, you need a break, maybe take a break for five minutes. Great.

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How about this?

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someone feels they need to take a break, you need to refresh the door, we'll go to the restroom or get something to drink, feel free to to go ahead and do that. Okay. So, the do's and don'ts of dialogue, see which 1am I gonna go over, maybe we'll go over all quickly. You have to be patient, so important to get that one patient because if you're impatient, you might be the reason that someone never ever becomes a Muslim, you can be that reason you don't want that ever. And a lot of times you become impatient like that.

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And they say things that offend people. I remember one time someone Hindu came to the table. He said, I'm never going to become Muslim. So why should I was here yesterday, and some of the people at this table insulted me. And they said, you know, what are these statues and gods and fake gods that you're worshiping? So they insulted. So he said, I'm never going to become Muslim. Imagine that. We already have enough things to deal with on the Day of Judgment. Now you got a list of people who said, Well, I never became Muslim, because he was rude, or insulted, or he left the school to be patient. You don't want to be the reason someone never entered into STEM till they go

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to their grave, to be very patient with people. And you know that some people have misconceptions, something to believe what on TV some people, you know, are rude by nature, you encounter those people, when you're prepared to be patient encounter problems. It makes it easier for

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the person that you're talking to. Like,

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what if what if that's the case?

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Do you like? Like, like, Is there like, like, you still have to make patient does that happen here? Yes. Yeah. Okay. Sure. All right. Let me ask you this. What's the what's the what can you do within the goal here?

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Because if we're done, I know what I'll do.

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You sign language.

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So anyways,

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you know, the five evidences, right? I always teach my students about the five evidences. If you disagree with me.

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You're writing them down. God, you guys are 1234.

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All right.

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Okay, but what can you do within the last suggestion?

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I've been given myself somebody else.

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He says, is this?

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Good. So, you know, you might try the question. Now, that might work if that person genuinely believed that, and he was telling you that now, it might not work if the person just wants to insult and get you all riled up? Yes, sir. It's actually from the human rights.

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You are allowed to

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cross the line, you will be

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okay. You better verify.

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I find I find patients in the Day of Judgment. Everything that they've said to me will be uncomfortable to them, but not to me. I like to start whichever one was like cute. That's good. You can do that. Yeah, I find a lot of patience there. Okay. All right. Yes, sir. I just

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remember that when

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no one's talking to their sister.

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Or when those who insult a lady just could walk away from them. Right.

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So just you can you can walk away, you don't have much choice, you know, so you might be good to walk away if they're just trying to infuriate you. If the brother like the brother was saying they really think that's the case. You might you know, discuss it more with them. Yes.

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so good question their source where they got into

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From so on, and so forth, they just want to make you upset, it's probably better to walk away, especially if you know you have a temper problem. Run away. All right.

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All right, be clean, and we need to clean an appearance. That's just a general recommendation. Like I said, you don't like anything I put up there, leave it issue. But generally, I recommend that you, if you're purposely going out for debt, what I recommend you look a little bit above average, or average is fine. But if you're purposely going out for debt, that doesn't mean if I'm walking down the street and my regular jeans and T shirt, someone asked me about Islam, I have to

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run to the phone booth, right?

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My water flowing in

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generally, clean.

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You know, what's the joke on this slide? Remember?

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The guy knows he's got longer than the jury full of crud. And he's telling us

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thanks for remembering that. be straightforward. The laws of getting very straightforward. This is how he gets his message across to us, it means that's the best means of communicating with human beings being straightforward, which also means it's the best way they can communicate with each other. That's why any question the answer is this. If you do this for three words, you do that that's the punishment. It's only the Can They ask you about what? That's the answer. Very straightforward. And it also makes life so easy when people are straightforward with you. And when you're going around in circles and beating about the bush, as they say, you can't really get your

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point across and the other person will understand you either. So be straightforward. Ask for a name. Why ask for name? new people will ask for name. Yes, sister.

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Very good.

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Excellent. juggle her sister mentioned two points. Yes.

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And the

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guy who gave the water

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very good. And the person who actually when he asked him his name, he used that to discuss you know, his origin and then it became a demo reel sister said asked for the name, it makes it their own personal true, and you want it to be personal. You don't want to sound like you have a script. And you just come and you spill it out to people. She makes it the whole person. And so the sister also said you use the name. So remember the name and the ask for the name remember the name and use the name? If you if you leave one of these three, it's useless. If you remember it, don't use it. What's the use of remembering it? If you forget it and every time it comes to us, it shows your name again

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the Dow becomes personal. Remember how the process element he came to with man will go on? What did he tell him?

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Verily, I'm the Prophet of Allah said to you, he Laika we're in a nasty Jamia. Can you imagine that? That Robert have a lot comes and says I will sit to you. And then everybody else, listen to you. very personal. So you know when you keep using that name.

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So So john, we would love that you become our brother Thompson, john actually discussed the most important parts of the religion. And you actually right now have the ingredients Jonathan becoming a Muslim john, so you can now jump become Muslim?

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Use the name.

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Five, find out the beliefs of the Prophet. I think I've mentioned that before number six, smile. And I always tell people you are representing a misrepresented religion. You're representing a misrepresented religion. So make it a nice experience? No, I don't know that work here in Canada or maybe didn't smile.

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But whatever if it works, but I think smiling works universally I think wherever you are. I don't think there's any culture where if you smile, it means you're upset. So smile. And it makes it so much easier and smiling is contagious. And it shows that you are happy to be there. And it shows that you are confident because people are not coming to don't smile. So it says a lot of things that conveys a lot of messages. So smile constantly. isn't being rude. No smile If you refuse your confident smile, a smile one time, and we're walking down in door, two brothers in front of us handing out pamphlets. They give a convict to this guy. And he just threw it right in the trash. And

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then because basically the dogs were coming at him like this. It took the traffic they went by. It was a trash can be through then he's been hooked up and we were coming. So now he felt embarrassed.

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When we walked by him, I said, second chance.

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No big deal. But he said no. Thank you.

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No problem doesn't have to work every time. Anyways.

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Okay, you know you're focusing, you're trying to avoid unnecessary arguments, unnecessary confrontations. And that's one of the benefits of having a partner number eight, because it can help you with issues like that sometimes, especially sometimes we might give the other two friends one of them is starting to be responsive the other person is, is not. And

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you find that the one who's not responsive was being argumentative, will rub off on the other guy. So here, this is where your partner has to pick them apart. And how do you split people apart into two people standing over here, you're talking to them, and you're standing, and your partner standing here, and this guy is making good headway with this guy. And this guy is not doing a good job of arguing. I want to separate them from each other. How do we do it?

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You just say look, use them you go with you? Or you do? How would you do?

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There you go. No, I have to do is if so I'm talking someone over here. My partner's over there are movies go over there. So so then you just keep talking to him. And I just take a step over like this. And then he moves a little bit after a little by little I move over. And I keep talking to him. And then and he keeps moving with me. And finally you find that we're over here. And the partners are there are even if I took two steps this way, and my product takes two steps that way. We've separated this, okay. So it's not it's not that not everything is just so some of the things just a little artsy little finesse. That's it makes life easy.

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Okay, here number nine means keep to focus on to hate. Big and this is we're coming to this when we discussed, you know, the process chart, we're not just throwing information. I told you about the guy with the chicken, right? You know, the guy who basically gave a talk, I'm talking about to heat. And it was a dinner. It was a talk speech. And there was a dinner. During the dinner, some Muslim wanted to he thought it was necessary to introduce this potential revert to the concept of the behind halal meat.

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So the guy was very intrigued by it. And now after the dinner, I'm trying to talk to him about tawheed. And he keeps asking me about a lot of meat. So every time tomahto it interests me. Okay, well, let me ask you this question. So suppose them the chicken was killed in the hallway. But it was not raised in a humane way?

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Does it still make it taller? And I genuinely liked this topic of organic.

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I like to organic and humane and all that. So we're talking about I kept so I would find myself going into that then I stopped doing

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well, but if the chicken was and then I get back to this, then you don't have to tell. Listen.

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Don't worry about the chicken right now.

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I want you to worry about yourself. When you become Muslim, we'll go and we'll fight for the rights of the chicken and we'll have sign

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free chicks. You know,

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we know how much your society needs. You're

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welcome Toronto, may have told me that they had a table had a big sign that said free for all.

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So an old lady came up to me and she said, What? What? undo

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some guy in prison,

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we're fighting for him.

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So this is what you're dealing with.

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Okay, you can use simple language. That's just basic, you know, some brothers have a big vocabulary and they always want to show off the thing to convince people come off as a professor. So they use big words like

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elephant hippopotamus. Thank you, sir. Yeah, big long English words. trusted you know one of the most effective dialogue with ever seen he had the same speech. He gives it to professor's homeless people, everybody gets the same speech. This is one of the most effective not successful but effective I've ever seen ever. And tells everybody what the three questions are the great that's it. The three questions are the great, he's done it he said it so many times. He has this incredible rhythm when you get started. You feel like you're floating. He just has this very strange with it he just keeps going. Everybody intellectual not intellectual. They become Muslim through the same same

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basic thing. So he keep it simple. You get everybody. Everybody understands simple, the simple mind and you know the water whoever's

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Simple, we'll understand. But if you keep it at a high level you miss out, you miss all the simplicity. But

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we said this before you look for these things, try to find what is the issue? What's the obstacle, What's the need. And sometimes it's just ridiculous things. And sometimes it's not. And one time he was so interested in this now, he says, The only problem is that I don't like the fact that divorce is allowed in a snap. That's it. So then you help you explain that how you know, it can in some cases, even be a mercy. These people will be forced to live their life together with the capstan each other anymore, then.

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So let me give you one example, just to get an idea.

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There was a guy, coworker, and we agreed that he's going to come over to my house over the weekend. And we're going to talk about religion. So we have this agreement that needs to have time he knows it's about religion is not going to escape the talk or anything like that. So we made this agreement, let's say Monday, so Monday during break later on in the day, he would come to me and say, so we're on for this weekend, right? But you're not going to convert. Tuesday, he comes in Hey, Ron, this weekend, you're not converting me. Once they say the same thing. Now, do we know exactly what he's saying that? Not exactly. Right. Who can take guesses? So who would like to take a guess?

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Why is he saying that? No. No new people?

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Yes, sir.

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He thought was it was a killer argument. Okay, so maybe he thought he's got a strong argument. He's gonna lay it on. Yes, sir.

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He's got some strong argument. What else just guessing now. No, one's wrong. Yes, sir.

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trying to intimidate me first. Right. So he's a strength

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whatever you say. He believes you know, in his very confident he can refute whatever I say.

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He's a devout believer, the system the

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ego. Yes.

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Haha, he could be in secure now all these possibilities. True. Everyone agree everyone was there was said everything that was said right now could have been true, right.

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And all of these were possible examples. But I thought what the law says. Now, again, I'm not saying

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my wait is right. But I said, Let me test. I think he's insecure. Now I tested it. And it happened to be the case. I could have tested it. And it could have been what the brother said over here. But I tested it at least. So what are you going to do? It could be this could be that this could be that. But I'm going to test and see which one it is. Makes sense. We don't know the unseen here. In testing, we diagnose. And so what the sister said, might be a little insecure. So he's telling himself, he's getting himself pumped up. You're not comforting me. You're not converting me. Now for me. That's not a good thing. Why?

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Exactly. He's gonna come in with this mindset. I'm not going to be convinced. I don't want to hear it. I'm coming in for a class forehead, but another one. So what were what are possible ways again, there's no wrong answer. What are possible ways you can get him to think No, it's not like that. What might you say to them? Yes, sister.

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Excellent. That's exactly what I told him. You could have tried something else. Yes.

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Okay, now remember what the sister said. I already told you the problem is that he feels insecure to give me answers related to that. He feels insecure.

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Okay, you could I'm not saying you can't you could but as long winded

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and that's certainly supposed to make them feel that Oh, so you're only gonna open up to converting

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Really, really well. Put a lot of spices in is

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an American white guy, so he's gonna be like

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no, I'm not saying you're wrong. Maybe you're that much of a good cook.

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Uh huh. Okay, possibly.

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security's probably was threatened by some

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aspect. Okay, great. Thank you sir. Would you agree with everything I say?

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Okay, good Mashallah, you guys are very intelligent crowd.

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Loving all the comments, quickly, hands go up is great. So excellent. Everything you said was right could have worked either way.

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The sister said he had a confidence issue. And I figured that what it was he was, it doesn't know what I have in store for him when it comes to my heart to try to convince himself and pump himself up that I am going to go as a Catholic and come back as a Catholic, he won't change me, he's afraid that I might drop something on him, it's so hard to come back as a different person than when he came in. So I started to tell him, yes, you're right, I started to give him the confidence. You're right, I can't convert you. Only you can convert you, I can't do anything to that you don't want, you're the one who will have to have to accept arguments and or reject them if you want to. So I

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made him feel that we're not coming to the class, just like some of you were saying, we're just talking. So he actually let his guard down. in football, this is good, you know, no pressure, it's not about who win or lose. It's about decision, I'm making the end, whichever way I went. And so 100 only came he wasn't coming for looking for a classroom ahead. But 100 and he did become Muslim at the end of the talk. So this just again, you find that problem that issue that obstacle, you fix it.

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In this specific case I known for,

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I don't know, for a number of months,

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a long amount of time, like eight months.

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And a few months, we actually became friends very quickly. It's very nice guy. But I mean, it maybe would have been maybe it was four months, maybe five, but I'm just telling you this specific case, I'm not saying this is the rule you should know that this long before you invite them over or something like that.

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The answer with a specific case.

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you know, a lot of communication is nonverbal. So you listen, with the eyes and ears. Remember, I told you about the data. If you pay attention to things, you look at how people say something, you know, what do you understand from this? And I'm giving you actual examples. Now, someone says, Yes, I'm such a great religion. It just wasn't for that woman thing that women issue

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with that tell you the misconception. But women in Islam, right, are two other two story. Someone asked me this question now. Read into everything that happened before they speak. pulled me aside

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and spoken a low voice. Now look at the words, I just want to check is with Khaled.

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So what do you think is the issue?

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Possibly now? And of course, given the better of a doubt? Is it possible that

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he's calling me inside the machine learning his voice? His question was What is wrong? Because if any of you have ever been asked questions by people, most questions are is this this?

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Is question was, is this this Hello, and what else? What other nonverbal cues we see?

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Okay. And then when I said of course, it's not obvious what happened.

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So this is the

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whimsical way of saying, there's so many ways you can understand what's happening just from the way the questions being asked the body language.

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Prada, what's the word hunching over and just saying, pulling into the side, whispering all that issue going on? So that's what you are, is if you look at all these things, let me tell you the full story of the guy who became someone I gave him the password. I was walking this way down the sidewalk, and he's walking that way. And as a customer, given the path and I kept walking. When he turned to look at him, he stopped and he was looking at the bathroom. Should I go back and talk to him?

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he stopped.

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Also, you ready to assign, he stopped? Why did he stop all day and giving people pamphlets, they keep walking? Why did he stop? means there's something that's assigned for you as a deputy. So he's interested enough to stop. I told me, he said yes. When I got and he said, What do I do now?

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So all you have to do you have to read into these things you have to read into the site. So that's what it means. A lot of communication is nonverbal. Look at these things constantly. Try not to overanalyze, but just look at these things.

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A lot of times with religion, the discussion is in the context or cans the flavor of being an argument. Oh, by the way, something important to say that I forgot. As, as we're going through is if you look at the

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If you look at your notes, the slides towards the end have most of the meat and potatoes and the heavy stuff. But as we do these slides, the examples I give you, they're actually, you know, they have techniques and rules in to try to pay attention to them. And I'll point them out whenever I can. So don't say, Well, here, we're just going over the do's and don'ts. No, in the do's and don'ts. We discuss techniques that we do that so far,

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to talk about the technique. This is a technique focused on having a partner with you, you know, understanding these issues, how to do it, we spoke about a couple of times using the names in simple things before all this technique, even though it's just unlisted under do's and don'ts So, so while we're going through the stories pay attention.

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So we said that most of the time, when you have a religious discussion, it's in it's in the form of a kind of debate or who will win or who will be true. when that's the case people don't tend to listen to one another. Now, show of hands, who's seen the debate between

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Jimmy Swaggart and Kamala, right.

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Now, who mopped up the floor with who

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do that right. And who

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else right. Now, what would you say for the new people? What would you say if I told you there is a church, that mass produces that debate without editing, and they pass it out to their congregation in church? new people tell me why would they do that?

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Why on earth would they do that? Yes, sir. proselytizing church, they send people from their church, but why would they give them that debate? where their guys being destroyed?

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Sorry, apparently.

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Okay, very good. Yes.

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Possibly, but that wasn't the case. Yes. But actually, he gave the right answer. Go ahead. Do you want to show that Muslims are just debatable? You could have been right. But that's not why he already gave the right answer. But you have to

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go ahead and

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give everyone a chance. Now, from their point of view, exactly what the brother said. You just put it in different wording. That's what happened in their mind there guy one.

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Yes. Can you believe that?

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I get to this point. So usually discuss it on another slide. But let's just do it here.

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There got one sound to the dome.

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There we go. Just do both now. Don't start attacking to start being aggressive. And sometimes people read.

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Malone's aggressive. And I'm not saying that.

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They thought their guy won. Why? Because it was a debate, debate context. They only don't hear the arguments.

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They hear their guy winning, because when there's a debate, or something aggressive or an argument, people put a mental block, and they don't hear what you say, you see. And now with that being said, I have to clarify. The debate has its place in Islam.

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But it's not the norm.

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There is a place for debate in Islam, but it's not the norm. And a lot of times people think that's the norm that you start debating a lot of people take the workshop and then I see them give the or they just try to make the person uncomfortable and paint them into a corner. What about this verse deceptive that does not contradict what you just said. And this person, this chapter contradicts both these verses and contradicts you as well. That's not the point. Most people will likely think that's the case that they are going to choke and choke choke the life out of the person before they die. That is

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not how it is. What is the mean devil comes from the room to invite. So if it's an invitation, it has to be nice and gentle. One more time. Let me say there's a place for art for debates in snap, but it's not the norm. When you encounter someone, it's not a debate, it's an invitation. So think of this, that all from head to toe or to invite to Allah. Now if you invite someone to your house, is it going to be a fight or is it going to be something nice?

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And when's the last time somebody grabbed you buy the shirt to listen to you? Eight o'clock my house? Brianna.

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We don't come Has anyone ever invited you like that?

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invitation? An invitation.

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So it can't be a fight.

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And so many times because if people become successful with the debate, they think the normals to debate. Should we spend your time memorizing this person that versus tackling make you choke the life of the other person

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Nice job.

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invitation. So there is a time stamp for debate. It's not the norm

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recognizers time when you have to debate. But it's not how you go around everyday trying to debate. So people become defensive. Now let's go back to where we said that. Because people think of debate context, they don't listen to how do you get people to listen, very simple concept, concepts of reciprocity. Come to it a lot of times, oh, is there a human communication? That to get people to listen to you, all you have to do is show them that you're listening to them.

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So to show them that you're listening, this is what you do. As you're talking, you're nodding, right? Obviously, you suspend all activity. And if someone's talking to me, and I keep writing,

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when I stopped writing, and I painted, as you're talking, I'm not following, you know, using open gestures. Okay, you know, first time like this, even if a smile, still looks threatening.

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So, use open gestures lean forward, to respond to what religion you just like that. It's different. What if I lean forward like this, and I'm not paying attention, you know, you know, maintain eye contact, but don't stare at them too hard. Don't stare them down. Because it's very hard on people, when you stare them down, you become very uncomfortable, staring them down. So what's the solution? They tell you of talking to a man or woman talking to a woman, you go between looking at them in the eyes. And then they say, you know, the shirt here or button like they're the second button, or over their shoulder. So you go between shoulder, eyes, button eyes, and they feel that you're generally

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looking at them, but you're not staring them down.

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And so with and with women, and if a man talking to a woman or a woman talking to them that they do understand the concept of lowering the gates, they do understand that.

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It's not like they're totally oblivious to the concept they do. They are aware of it. And sometimes you run into those people who want you to look them in the eye.

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Look over the shoulder. Maybe every now and then you're gonna run into those women. This is a buddy up here.

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But for the most part, they understand that man sparingly the stories, but generally, there's a woman, this got to give her a demo for two hours, you want to marry this Muslim guy. So he brought environment Islam for two hours. He spoke to her

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with people there. When he left, she cried. She said, I've spoken to religious people of every faith. And they all look at me look at my beauty. Are they all doing this therapy? She said, This man never ever once raised his eyes to look at me. She was very moved, but she knew that he respected. She didn't study about lowering the gaze and read the ayah. She knew. So you know, so so. So obviously, the opposite sex, he would not stare, or try to lower your gaze.

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So the way to get people to listen to you is you listen, show them that you're listening to them, and they will reciprocate because they will say now, he was listening to me, I will listen to them. Now I always say that the time so Mormons came to my house. And as I was talking to them, they kept flipping through the they weren't listening to me. They were just flipping through the web, preparing their next target. And I noticed that I remember catching it. And I said to myself, Oh, you're not listening to me. But

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we'll see if I listen to them when it's their turn to speak. When they were speaking. I didn't care what it was. I'm just going through my books preparing my next argument. You think we're gonna move forward? Probably not. So listen. Number 12. Listen. And you know what? Most people don't listen. If you pay attention to what you'll see them speaking the truth. Most people I'm talking Muslims, non Muslim Jew friends. Most people do not listen. Most people are poor, poor listeners. You know, believe me, don't worry about it. Pay attention to pay attention to it during lunch, you will see as people don't really listen very well. And especially you know, they don't hear it. Sometimes people

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ask you a question. They don't listen to your answer.

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And one of the ways you know, people aren't listening to you, when you sent this ends, there's a beginning immediately. You were just waiting for you to shut your mouth basically, not paying attention. You pay attention to it. You'll see very few people listen, and also say this

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before, very few people smile. I'm talking about Muslims. Very few people. Pay attention to people pay attention to it. And talk about good Muslims in domestic with the tooth stick with everything.

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Don't smile. Don't believe me? Wait till you go to Isha prayer. Notice how many people will smile at you. They'll say all the nice things to you. But without a smile.

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Smart attention to every time you smile, you get a reward. Now you see 50 people a day. 20 people a day. 10 people a day you smile you get 10

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rewards. Multiply that by 365 days of the year, you have

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before to buy that if you live up to 50, or 60 or 70 years old, we've got a mountain of good deeds preserved and said Do not be little

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roofie che do not belittle any of the good deeds, it adds up.

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And with

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smile on the face of your brothers.

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So pay attention to that. Okay, pay attention, people don't smile, and they don't listen.

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I'm going to skip this

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under a different category. Okay.

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Don't make anyone feel dumb. And the question is a good question. Right.

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And, you know, even

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if you've got examples that avoid, sometimes the obstacles another human being wants to make problems noise, your partner can save the day, when it comes to that thing, I always tell the story about the lady in DC. And basically, I found this guy with a very serene, calm look on his face. So I started to give him demo. So when he came out of her house, she saw us in his white coat, is Oh, you guys don't believe in the Lord Jesus Christ. And she started saying, The Lord taught me how to dance and she started dancing. Not on time for that, obviously.

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So my partner immediately knew what to do.

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I don't have to tell him, I have to

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say what took her side, we started to discuss dance moves over here, I can talk to this person without any noise. So that's why the partner is just such such a benefit. And here, I referenced the example of the processor demo, he invited his family, including a boo.

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And he wanted to give him doubt, right? And then I would have stopped the process. You calling us for that new religion of yours? We don't want to hear. So what happens? Or when there isn't President invited them again, same people except this time without a ruler. And he called him to Islam. So avoid him enough to

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explain Okay, then okay.

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Skipping that for another section. This is the golden rule, which is go for the gold, which means make the sale, which means

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when you ask for the Shahada, when you've discussed all the essential things, and that person has the ingredients to become a Muslim? Does it make sense that you don't ask them for the Shahada at this point? Right. It's like saying, I'm inviting you to my house. So you're walking or when you're chit chatting as you're walking through the house, when you get to the door of your house, you open the door, you enter and you slam the door in their face. Same thing, I'm inviting you to this. Now. We're talking talking, talking when you reach the door slammed in their face? No, you ask them for the job. And this is the golden rule. I told you there are two rules that I insist upon. Absolutely.

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This is one of them. I follow this world so much sometimes if I'm sure that I won't, because now I still ask for the show. Because it does a lot to the person mentally saying, look, you need to become Muslim at some point.

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So are you ready to become Muslim? Now, it's really saying you actually have to become Muslim, it's just a matter of an hour later, but you need to become Muslim. And I always give the example to sales when they tell you the you know, in sales. Sometimes in certain studies, they found the further many reasons why a sale won't go through

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the 1001 reasons why someone will not commit to purchasing something, whether it's a suit or a car, or

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whatever it is.

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There's so many reasons. They had a credit card, they only accepted cash, I took my wife who was on color with the wrong size, whatever it is, I can get millions of reasons. But they found in one area that 96% of the time, the salesman didn't ask for the sale, you have to ask for the sale.

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You have to ask for the Shahada.

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Sometimes people don't want to change their life. They don't want to know everything you say may make sense to them, that they need that encouragement to ask because and again, I explained effective versus successful right, beginning.

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Right. So the I want to show you the difference in effectiveness that it made for not in success. So I have to stand in front of the store every Saturday coffee with Islam given a five minute introduction to Islam. And when I was done, there was this awkward silence because I thought after the introduction is such a beautiful

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Religion, they should beg me to let them become Muslim. But it would just stare at me now and stare back at them. It was very weird, awkward silence. They were waiting for me and I'm waiting for them. I discovered at this point is one since we got to that point, the pillars The Prophet said them. And so he now asked for the Shahada because they have ingredients of being listed. So the difference between not when I didn't know this rule, and when I found out the rule would be like five times a day, versus zero for four years, that's just effectiveness. I keep stressing effectiveness, I don't want you to think I'm telling you, that it's all about numbers. It's not what I'm saying. And a lot

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of people I know too many people come up to me at the end of the workshop.

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And I always say the same thing. I lost count. I mean, what do they want? Sometimes they want you to give the numbers 1000s. I can't even if I wanted to, I couldn't keep up with me not to say, I couldn't keep up like that. Like I was telling you some people they'll tell you about this 20,000 people to snap, or this May, with the details to this money and 426 people to snap,

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and then one. So that means the guy with the highest number is the best day. What does it mean, really. So let's not get caught up in headcount. But I'm just showing you how this will make you more effective. So

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you can think of one time the process alum went to a group of people to invite them to a slot and then didn't invite them to stop. Even the sentence doesn't make any sense. So in order for someone to come into STEM, you ask them to come into this club, and a lot of times you ask members in the audience, you know, when did you become Muslim? Well, when finally one of my friends asked me to become Muslim,

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I can't stress this point enough.

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I'm not saying if someone asks you, why do you grow your beard immediately say, well,

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because I'm gonna become Muslim. I'm saying that if someone has ingredients of a Muslim, then you ask them to become Muslim. Now, what if they say no.

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They say no.

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There's an obstacle, ask questions and find out the obstacle, when you discover the obstacle you give solutions. And then what do you do?

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Again, fix the problem. And if you say no,

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probably another obstacle could be 15. I don't know how many there are maybe 15 minutes to ask again. And you know, you try to fix the problem. Or if they say, Yes, you've struck go, your sister.

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There is no reason.

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Because some people can measure.

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They need to think it over right. Which means the truth is, that can never be no reason ever.

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Never just absolutely impossible. You think it's possible? They can be no reason? No way. Why don't you become there's no reason.

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There's no reason to

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change your mind as as easily. If there's nothing to stop you. It's impossible. They just don't want to tell you the reason. You're a stranger to them. comfortable, they're not ready, they don't want to share, or they don't believe like anything that you've said. Doesn't matter. There's never no reason. I want to agree with that.

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I mean, if you disagree, feel free to argue your point. Could there be absolutely no reason.

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They just don't want to talk to you. So if you can't get it out of them, what the sister said would be correct. You exchange information.

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Read Think about it, pray about it. And that's it. We're going to do that.

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And you might encounter them again next semester. If you're in college and then you might ask them again Hey, remember where the conversation last summer what have you and

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Sure, sure.

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alarms for showing.

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This is why

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I say

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Okay, good, very nice.

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Very good system saying, Have this sincerely. That's the beginning of part two. We'll come to that. The other part the same connected with a person

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And there was one brother for a nice brother every time he was talking to someone who would go there and start making.

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Okay, this is good. And I'm done with this as a team up.

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With regards to going against, I started like going my gaze

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like a lot of women that I talk with, they thought that I was angry with them and then carried on.

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But so what might you do in this situation?

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Quite easy.

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upset because you're looking down.

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Thank you.

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Just explain to them what you're doing. And it's a good Avenue.

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And there are many stories from during the case people came to slap. You know, one time we're studying film, one of my students asked me, where should you keep her gaze?

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I said in the club?

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I know it's corny. I know. Go ahead.

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So you might add a smile. So you might think you're angry. But if you're smiling,

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it might fix things a little bit. You could just do a lot of

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like this.

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Can you give us give us a demo?

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Are you shaking hands?

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I'm standing at the tail and the customers here. Okay, I do this at work.

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So now on this guy, you can get a warranty on it for a buck 49 it will

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cover you for two replacements. It just costs an extra dollar 49 to bring it in, don't eat your receipt or anything like that. You want to go with that?

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Okay, okay. Did you see that? What do you mean?

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Like, focus on focus on the area, even even if you have to, like, kind of just go over their head.

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You can focus on

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look like, look like you're engaged. But you don't have to

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focus on something else while you're doing it. But make it look like you're actually engaged.

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Very, very good. Thank you. All right. So there are ways around it. And I think we're gonna come to more discussion. What happens when someone's trying to shake your hand? How do I do it? There's so many ways but what the brother did just now that they won't really pay attention that that you actually didn't look at them. We're gonna discuss some techniques that don't really

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mean you won't really notice that you didn't shake hands with it because you made it so smooth. So Exactly. Look, I think very much for coming up here. I think it's probably time to stop, isn't it? Okay, but let's start talking about when we come back. We'll continue to unlock so when we got our

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